Water Cooling the RTX 3090 is... More Complicated
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Alex: Oh this machining is so beautiful!
Alex literally 1 minute later: *aggressive filing*
lol
Linus Tech Tips Plays Among us With 5up and Pewdiepie ruclips.net/video/-JiA_5Uu4Rc/видео.html
First Name ahaha I just got not straight men rolled lol
Hey, nothing is perfect.
@@klemensoeargo8475 Especially not pre-production things and I get that.
1:37 - Is SLI dead? - Yeah, it basically is
Basically sums up the entire last Video in one second
@@iwantsexseemyvideo8642 same
@@iwantsexseemyvideo8642 Preach
Lol
And some guy told me I should buy another 9600GT for SLI on my PC
@Xavier I guess they didnt test for something in that space, for machine learning or rendering of very high poly objects and Scenes a even bigger VRAM is always nice.
"This water block is $175 dollars, that's enough to buy yourself... a pretty decent GPU!" *That didn't age well*
If you are mining you need one
Maybe that money could get you a GT210 ???
Maybe... At least it can do 1080p on RUclips with almost no lag.
I have a GT210. Thanks Nvidia.
people dont realize the power of secondhand markets. you could get a 1050 for that if you know where to look. get at some local hackerspaces. people there are just dying to give newbies their old computer bits! i know from experience with my xeon e5 1603, gtx 660, 14GB ram build that cost 0 dollars total. its not the nicest thing but it can play most games at 1080p (this monitor was also free.)
Just do your mining on a gameboy!
rip 1060 being a decent price
Can we just appreciate that all of Linus’ sponsor bits are exactly the right length to double tap skip them
yea! i already thought of that xD
ll
It depends because you can change how many seconds it skips in the settings
@@remthetownfurryslayer565 Where? I searched all the settings....
@@flex4711 Try harder to find it usually its 10 sec
"Should we?-"
"yes."
But setup and editing of entire video :P
that cracked me up!
@@wantse-rita25y.oopenmycana50 Your canal is so wide and well traveled, it's like the Panama Canal.
I don't know Rohan wants to build PC
@@CaveyMoth SLAYER, I gid you not.
"Should we...?"
"Yes."
AHHH NO NONO WHAT ARE Y OU DOING
Bobert Daniels I thought they were sawing off the caps!
@@jordanranstead3016 lol
im scarred. o___o
The quick cut to the scraping actually hurt
Timestamp?
What were they about to do?
Amazing frame rate, sadly the human eye can only see "out of stock"
lmaoo underated
Most accurate 3090 comment ever.
I got a 3090 😁
We have many RTX 3090s in my country, it cost 3800-4000 usd
@@adritan4455 lmaoo crazy price
4:03 literally fell out of my chair because i thought that was the pcb not the block lmao
I mean it is ltt
Underrated comment!
"Wait a minute, wasnt the card gonna be not functional?"
"Eh, it isnt the gpu tf"
*Taps forehead*
You don't need to worry about cooling a 3090 if you don't own a 3090
I have aids
stop talking
CHEESE
so I need to worry about cooling an *Intel HD Graphics 4000*
Get a life, Justin.
Linus, do a parody of Henry Cavill's pc building wearing a tank top.
I support this
Nice idea there mate
Please do this.
This pls.
Yes this is a good idea
"uh oh...."
"Should weeee...?"
Linus: "yes."
*Cutscenes to grinding down the card*
Fuck that was brutal
Coming back to this "at least" it was just the block and not the actual card
@@Scarlet_Soul Still a $175 block XD
@@hueyrosayaga Not as bad as a card almost 10 times the price haha.
i was dying in that moment
1:55 still waiting for the "pun intended"
Man I've seen these Ridge wallet ads for years and really want one but I'm NOT spending $80 on an elastic band and two aluminum plates 🙄😪
just look on ali express, they will probably be like $10
@@nas1m lol just checked and there is like 1:1 clones for $5 😅
@@potatojz38 its most likely the same product
I've seen so many ads, but I'm not giving up the ability to carry cash on me.
Also, I have 5 cards that I carry on me at all times: identification, driver's license (which is not a valid ID where I live), bank, health insurance and organ donor's card. That's a bit on the thick side for a ridge wallet. Especially if I add the other three 'nice to have' cards to that (DHL post ID card, a summary of my eyesight, blood donation ID).
@@potatojz38 I got a clone off eBay for like 7 bucks took like 3 days to get here. Works great and no wallet bulge
1:54
Ha! Best CASE Scenario!
exactly
I was gonna comment that
Lets make a CASE brand out of that!
has a Mill, "everything should be machined". Grabs a file.
“I’ve never been so excited to take something apart” he says while holding a 3090 and there’s me looking at my 650
Get a job
@@winbombs6117 wow your such a great person /s
@@aidenpearce5275 Yes I know. The gtx 650 was released in 2012. That means he hasn't had a job in 8 years. Im terrible for saying he should pull his figure out.
@@winbombs6117 people don't get jobs just to buy graphics cards, he might be richer than what you'll ever be in 10 years.
Man ure just salty and the guy was being sarcastic or just joking
1:55 "best case scenario"
I see what you did there Alex, well played.
Someone copied your comment, and it’s right below this one. Word for word.
@T̲e̲x̲t̲ ̲T̲R̲A̲M̲P̲ ̲t̲o̲ ̲8̲8̲0̲2̲2̲ 😐
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1:54 That was clean, Alex: "Best case scenario"
3:47 Verge guy will look like a pro the way he put thermal paste.
*(angry nerd noises)*
Kryonaut from Thermal Grizzly doesn't spread like other thermal pastes. It has an unusual elasticity to it. Once you get used to its properties its a bit easier but still a little messy. But the results speak for themselves. Great stuff!
@@robd3747 yeah it's oddly thin, more like icing than frosting. i use it on my laptop
I'd love to see another video like this with a CPU included in the loop. From what I understand (and I could definitely be wrong, so if so please correct me) most people who do custom watercooling don't have separate loops for their CPU and GPU. I imagine most people who own this card pair it with a high-end CPU that's gonna dump another 100 watts or so into the loop, or more if you're overclocking, which makes me think the sweet spot is probably closer to 280mm or 360mm worth of rad, as opposed to 240.
One component, a 120 or a 240 worth of rad space more will be perfekt if you oc.
@@I_Like__bananasLol... Tell that to someone who's putting an overclocked 13900KS and a 3090 Strix OC in the same loop. Could get pretty toasty. Of course there's always the option to use industrial fans additionally. :D
@@AlexanderDinebier well, the 13900K wasn't out yet. But I believe a 480/2*240 rad will be more than enough for it while you don't OC the shit out of it. If you do you might get a little warm
@@I_Like__bananas A shame i'm doing exactly that with it. :D Still waiting for my motherboard to arrive though. (Got two 280x45mm rads, 0.7 bar DDC pump, direct die cooler and Noctua NF-A14 IPPC-3000 PWM fans in there.)
@@AlexanderDinebier Or you could put the open case on top of your car roof and drive around like you stole it in GTAV, that could make it run marginally cooler, I mean I am going with the flow here, he just put a rasp to a 3090, I mean... just brainstorming ...
"Just like I'll do whatever it takes to transition to our sponsor" - honest
New channel idea, Linus segue tips
Linus Tech Tips Plays CoD with Joe Biden and trump ruclips.net/video/-JiA_5Uu4Rc/видео.html
I didn’t skip cause I felt guilt this time trough
@@FatheredPuma81 Agreed. At least Linus is reliable & honest with his sponsors. It's kind of refreshing to see.
@@firstname8044 do you not fear God?
Plot twist: Linus's real job always doing drop tests.
Doesnt suprise me
"Always has been" 👨🚀🔫👨🚀
😯😯😯
It’s his calling
The video upload 35 mins ago and your comment is 44 min. What is happening????
1:54 "Best *case* scenario"
Was that pun intentional or unintentional? Lol.
underrated
FINALLY! Someone puts on Thermal Paste and spreads it like you SHOULD !! Good work Alex
"Temperature is not a good indicator of cooling solutions anymore, we're going to use boost clock instead."
Proceeds to only mention temperature for the radiator tests.
He gave temps because in all cases the card hit max boost, so it never thermal throttled and because its boosting stable at 100% temperature is relevant again
@@kingderpington6082 If the card hit stable max boost and didn't thermal throttle in any case the temperature is completely irrelevant*. it doesn't matter if the card is at 50° or 60° if you get the same performance out of it, it just means you're wasting money on cooling
*assuming it doesn't spread to other components and ruin their performance
@@TheZALGOisCOMING That depends entirely on how sensitive you are to noise. All that thermal headroom would allow you to make a very quiet system. Of course if you don't mind or care about noise, it doesn't matter anyway.
@@fragilechinaa that's a fair point. if you get lower temperatures at the same fan speed you can decrease the fan speed without leaving the safe zone. i'm reacting because i've seen people keep their fans cranked up so they can brag about low temps
@@TheZALGOisCOMING you are exactly correct......... the temperature is irrelevant though? In terms of actual usefulness yea you dont really need to get a dual fan rad but the temperature shows how much better at cooling the dual to single to triple fan rads are.
4:00 Alex: Sooo, should we???
Linus in a super monotone voice: yes
I have a 9700k and a 5700 XT in an NZXT 200i (ITX mini), both water cooled. I have a 2 fan rad in the front, and a single in the back. Both are the EK slims. I have the 5700 XT core pegging 2050 all the time and 9700k at 5.0. The CPU will sometimes get up to 65 and the gpu stays around 55. There isn't a lot of air flow in the case, so I'm pretty happy with results.
You guys should test blow vs draw through rad with fans, myself I run fans on back of radiator to draw a lower pressure vacuum through he entire radiator. Always wonder how much better or worse it could be
Installing my new 3090 tomorrow. I can't wait.
Huge fan! Have fun tomorrow! 😁
If you can't wait, then that's a good thing as you won't have to wait (since you can't).
Enjoy you're 3090
Congratulations mate .
Money money money must be funny in the rich mans world.
Awesome!
What CPU have you got?
Yes, it really is the “best case scenario” when talking about a PC case with 9 fans lol
Dangitthatsagoodcomment.
Pun intended..
Also with Canada weather
It was just his wry little smile
Fanario, eh. :D
Alex just appreciating the nice machining made me happy
I'm currently working on a Cerberus X build with 2 Hardwarelabs 240mm radiators and a 120mm cooling a 3090 FE and 5950x.
This was quite a helpful video to set temp expectations - thank you.
Linus,my dad used to watch you all the time.But now he's gone...before he died,he made me a gaming pc using your tutorials.Without my day and you,I wouldnt be playing games on my pc...thank you Linus for making my dad's day everyday
Linus never saw this comment lol
Respect
What's funny? Smh
Sorry about your dad man. Sounds like he was one cool dude. Game on for him
lol
"should we...?"
"Yes"
*hurts to watch*
1:55 "you want best CASE scenario" :D
1:54 talking about fans in the case
best /case/ scenario XD
nice.
Random thing, I just ate the perfect orange. Soooo juicy.
Congratulations, making me hungry over here!
@@titanderp Yes very
nice
Mad jelly, it must’ve been good :(((
Sick dude, nice
4:04 I was freaking out for a second because I thought they were filing the graphics card ':D
Those caps were optional, right?
"yeah, this is bad.
So should we?......"
Linus: "YES"
LMFAO xD
Half the comments be like : AYO WAS THAT PUN INTENDED 1:55
and the other half : Damn bro I thought y'all were cutting off the card not the block I had a heart attack
4:12 "Do we have clearance Clarence?"
Check your vector, Victor.
"Linus! The processor is overcooling!"
"Put in the ice cubes, make sure nothing comes in and nothing comes out."
Linus Tech Tips Arrested ruclips.net/video/-JiA_5Uu4Rc/видео.html
@@firstname8044 you are an awful person
@@thiago4146 You're right. Unless one is into that. Then it's fine I guess?
OneTopbbloveyou.link
For reference, how much power was the GPU drawing? Or was it at stock? Can you please share these details so we can relate your results to the Watts being produced?
4:03 thats actually the most terrifying sound I've ever heard, sends chills down my spine man
Alex: "You want the best CASE scenario"
- doesn't even realize he cracked a dad joke.
Or keeps it low because he's to confident with it...
Better that way.
Linus: "...but not to the DEGREE that we'd be getting TEMPERATURES that I'd be happy with..."
Pun, not a dad joke
@@ibrahimeid2593 stop it
what case is it?
1:54 Linus would have taken the second to appreciate that pun.
Wow MicroCenter. I remember walking in to their Lane Ave. Store circa fall of '84 and talking w Baker.
1:22
"You just say bingo."
"Bingo! Oooohhhoooo how funnnnn"
Linus: "Figuring out just how much radiator we need"
Yvonne's Mechanic: "Your radiator is missing"
While it's a fun joke, I'd rather pay for a Mo-Ra 3 420 radiator than mess around with a car's aluminum radiator that's going to need anti-corrosives and adapters to work at all and the fan mount is gonna be janky as hell, too.
@@Steamrick but if you steal the radiator from a Dodge Challenger Demon, chances are that you can cool your computer passively.
@@Ocastia Steal is right... I looked it up and that radiator costs $350 new
Linus Tech Tips Playing minecraft with Obama ruclips.net/video/-JiA_5Uu4Rc/видео.html
@@Steamrick Dude Alphacool has some pretty baller radiators for PCs, I'm planning on getting a 200x400 one to put in a new case, and they have 400x400 as well- if you want to passively cool your PC that's the way to go lol
4:01 Sooo should we..?
Linus : Yes
when i saw that i thought it was the card itself at first lmao
1:55
"Best case scenario" pun not intended
3:17
Alex: "We don't have the things you might expect it to include..."
Me: RGB?
Alex: "Instructions"
Me: Well... ehmm... Of course... Instructions.
♥️✔️
"well, see you tomorrow" (Next Day) "OK, TESTING'S DONE"
"I'm going to take lunch." (A few moment's later) PC machine broke.
I don't know if Linus will ever see this but have you guys considered some sort of "waterfall" cooling setup. Much like one of those static waterfalls u see in fancy restaurants etc. Love the content. Think it would be an interesting video!
Although that could be done it would introduce significant air into the loop, which is highly undesirable
"This video is sponsored by Micro Center. We can't actually go there right now, because of Covid, but they're sponsoring us anyways because we built their showcase PC"
4:01
"Should we?"
Chad Linus: "Yes"
The sound afterwards hurt my soul, as they were grinding a multi hundred dollar piece...
"Everything should be CNC machined."
Idk why but I want this on a shirt.
"I make new one"
As a tool technician, yes please
Nice you do the testing for us. It saves us a lot of money
“This should be fine” famous last words 😂
I was always wondering, where do all the crazy builds even go?😂
Im pretty sure they just take apart the pc and put them in storage for future builds
@@4phis yea sounds about right
@@4phis most of them are sold to their own employees and some of the "major" things are used for future videos.
Im pretty sure they return some of the stuff
@@aura5068 most of the time they dont. linus mentioned this in a livestream once. they tend to take them apart and/or leave them in storage
Alex: "Hopefully by the time actual real people get this..."
My brain: Does this mean Alex and Linus aren't real people?
1:54 thats indeed a best “case” scenario because its the best case in this scenario
You should make an airflow guide for people who are new because I have seen people who are confused about which way fans should go and maybe testing different areas of air flow in a case and measure temperature would be cool
I feel like I've been watching Linus for years. He's done a great job with his channel, industry and it makes me happy to watch everything develop.
Great job Linus and team!
@1:51 You forgot the dad stare after, "you want best case scenario."
wasnt expecting *two different sponsors* in a video
good job
1:55 Best CASE scenario. I wonder if this pun was intended
woah linus changed a lot after that sponsor spot
That is very nice and awesome videos of those water cooling and the RTX 3090 graphics card that is in the CPU case and very good job to you on making this video for this time. I just hope that you will continue to make good videos of any awesome graphics card and other gaming stuff because it was very entertaining until this time.
I love the bubble removal technique at 11:14
Pretty sure Ali from Optimum Tech will watercool it with a single 120 radiator lmao
in Ncase M1 his favorite there is a 240 aio :)
He'll undervolt it and not drop a point of performance!
11:13 free tech tip, shove scissors into your pump/res for peak performance
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS BEEN WATCHING FOR 8+ YEARS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Funny video it was. I have installed EKWB-block to my Asus rog strix RTX3090 and it works perfectly and block fitted as always, perfectly. I hate cutting thermal pads, otherwise installing block went quite easily. I use 2 radiators (35mm and 24mm) both with 2 fans. Overclocked to 2050MHz, card heats up to 66°C when overstressed using furmark-bench.
I have spent sometime in cooling my aic 3090, the secret is to cool the backplate. Sticking a heatsink and a fan on the back plate. Even with asus 480w bios, my 3090 can stay at 70c with the stock radiator.
That ridgewallet is stronger than my previous relationship.
Im sorry
and so is everything
Lmao
Same
I have a question, what if you put the cooling component from a portable mini fridge, into the water cooling system. Will that extra cold helps to cool down the hot water a bit?
Fastest flow rate on the pump is not always best as it may not transfer heat as effectively in a low flow friction loop.
This is also why the two 120 rads they tested were identical because the water had little time to transfer out of the loop.
Not true, I tested this extensively in my system and its false.
Fast flow rate results in better temperatures overall every time, HOWEVER, slower flow rate increases delta between temps throughout the loop (I see as much as 8c difference between thermal probes after the GPU and after my radiator in my case) so depending on where you set up your thermal probes, you may think you're getting better temps but all you're seeing is a higher delta throughout the loop.
Overall, running a pump faster always has a positive effect, albeit it's usually not a very large one past a certain point (depending on your loop and flow) and not worth it considering the noise
I also found the advice that "loop order doesn't matter" complete BS in my small form factor build which reaches coolant temps of up to 50c. In that environment, delta can be as high as 8c as stated, so it's much better to have the CPU right after the radiator (CPU temps are more critical) and definitely not having the CPU after GPU
Nice space heater for me in a country where It's 34 - 37celcious most of the time great
That's.. uhh... rather hot. 34 - 37 C most of the time? Toasty. Geez.
Wish it was 34C here. But no... Snow is here and its starting to be really cold, specially at nights.
I got my 3080 through yesterday, pluigged it in, went through all the usual QA checks and my god, what a BEAST. Ran every game I normally play, but at 4k, 80 fps+. My first new rig in 6 years, and it's a joke compared to my old rig.
Sooo...your new rig is a BEAST and is a JOKE compared to your old rig...got it... 😂
So happy for linus that he is happy what he does now been watching him for 5+ years
“Just like I’ll do whatever it takes to transition to my spon-“
*Double taps right side of screen twice*
I love how so many people watch this while 90% won’t even be able to buy one for the next 3years including me
@@novellamoores9387 pain
I love how Alex love and enjoy everything he does in his job
I don't love how your profile picture is not centred
"oops I forgot to push and record, and spent a bunch of your money Linus"
Linus - "It's ok, you can do no wrong"
thx for shining a light on something I already wasn't sure about "thick radiators" initially I had one 55mm at bottom/intake on my lianli case but I noticed it completely killed airflow, almost zero air coming out of one of my main "air intake" I swapped it with a 30mm and yep noticeably better airflow inside the case now while cooling is nearly the same, thick rads only make sense if you plan to run them with high speed noisy fans for a work PC that runs hot all day bad choice for a "daily driver" gamer pc (btw running 3x360mm rads on that lianli case and I can confirm you need 1x360mm for a 300+watts gpu that's why I upgraded from 2->3)
At 4:00 just the Rollercoaster of emotions after "Should weeee...."
11:09 Jordan Peterson builds a PC
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Linus Peterson:"Clean up your cable management!"
"Come on, pump, you can be way more than you are. Put yourself together, and God only knows what the limits are to how cool that GPU could be."
"Can This Cool an RTX 3090?" Cute but the real question is: Can you BUY an RTX 3090?
Real question is what for?
@@montazownianr1 8k gaming
@@r00kiet80 If you have a 8k monitor I reward you
@@zahhym if ur able to buy a 3090 i'm pretty sure u can get ur hands on a 8k monitor/tv
@@r00kiet80 Work
Judging by the green USB on the front panel io looks like you have a razer edition 011 dynamic. How did you like that case compaired to base model? Reason I'm asking is I've had that case for 2 years in the box waiting for a non scalpafied price on a gpu. I finally got a 3080 strix and want to start my new build.
I bet going with a double with an added single would drop temps by another 3-4 degrees over the lone triple rad. This being due to the added single being isolated from the heat soak of the main working double rad.
I was literally wondering this when I woke up
Same
"Some room to grow"
I don't think you can grow much more from a 3090
Just wait until you see the 4090. It's gonna be a big boi.
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4:01
Alex: Should we...
Linus: Yess!!!
Good to know about the various rad sizes helping. I've decided to retain the FE look and not water cool my 3090 compared to Titan X Pascal prior, but it's still the coolest card I've ever owned! Usually seeing mid 50s on air, maybe 60, tops.
*"it's a bingo!"* Is the Intro Title of this video.
Considering the sum of the pc's heat dissipation if i could experiment i would connect it to my home hvac system with a heat exchanger as a reheater in the return water loop of the heating or domestic water circulation. If you have such a system.
2:46 Shake that Alex. Something Linus could not confidently do without dropping. Great Video Alex!
"How much cooling do we need for RTX 3090?"
NVIDIA: *yes*
I love how so many people watch this while 90% won’t even be able to buy one for the next 3years including me
Why am i here i have xbox😭😭😭😭
Lol is this a price joke or a stock one ?
Taps forehead
You don't need to worry about cooling a 3090 if you don't own a 3090
Iv gotta digital storm with a Ryzen 9 3900xt, Asus Stix and 3080 FE being delivered in 30 days
@@rtorbs both 🙁