Is GPU Water Cooling Worth It? (or is Liquid Cooling Dead?) - Probing Paul #85
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- Should You Water Cool Your GPU? (or is Liquid Cooling Dead?) - Probing Paul #85
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0:00 Welcome to Probing Paul #85
0:51 Pre-Probing Notes
1:01 Should I Water Cool My GPU? (or is Liquid Cooling Dead?)
• Liquid Cooling is Dead...
6:18 How does a monitor’s resolution/size/refresh rate affect gaming performance?
10:23 What keyboard is the white one you use?
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11:43 How is the DIY home surveillance system doing?
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• I Have a LOT to Learn ...
• I told myself this wou...
• The Final Teardown - P...
13:57 Was that a Radeon RX 7900 GRE??
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14:29 Looking forward to the Mini ITX build!
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14:56 MAIL TIME (Sort Of) - Big Overhead Softbox Light Parts
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I've often found it odd that CPUs get all kinds of crazy exotic cooling solutions everywhere from cheap hunk o' metal to "you're gonna need to sign a release form for this", but GPUs get hunk o' metal to bigger hunk o' metal and maybe a paltry 240 AIO with a Chinesium pump that will likely die in a year. Not only do GPUs pull far more wattage than CPUs on average, but they're far more likely to be running full tilt in realistic everyday scenarios like playing a game, while CPUs are only running full tilt if your favorite game is Cinebench.
I'd like to see GPU cooling become as ubiquitous as CPU cooling where you can upgrade your solution with a few screws and $100 instead of needing an engineering degree and $500 in hardware to upgrade it.
Paul I'm not going to lie to you you could make a video of you just cutting what little grass you have in the backyard with the occasional thumbs up towards the camera and I would watch it because I like you as a person and have enjoyed all of your content... 🙂 So yes I would thoroughly enjoy watching you build this little rig or set up for lighting
Yes, Yes, I'd like to see a DYI video on a soft box.
Of COURSE we want to see the light box build!!
I would love to see more DIY videos for any project you do. They've always been informative and inspiring. 👍
The first card I put an AIO on was a reference R9 290. It turned a literal hair dryer into a whisper quiet GPU that never saw above 55c, that's with a single fan 140mm AIO. GPU dies are so massive compared to CPUs that the benefits of watercooling are insane. Even today with my 7900XT on a custom loop, my GPU temps rarely break 45c, 65c hotspot.
I agree with other comments on here; I added my custom loop because of how quiet it is compared to other options. Even an AIO cannot compare because you generally cannot control an AIO's fan speed based on water temperature delta over ambience, which is really the only metric your loop's fan speed should be based on.
I'm using a $20 transmission radiator for 20 bucks, And a $20 12 V wholehouse water pump for 20 bucks And hoses from home depot and everything runs fine.
This is how my Mechanical Mind works and put things into functional applications. If computer parts weren't so extremely expensive it would be cool to see a DIY build that is completely functional yet using non-functional computer parts to build. If I were you I would have added some duct tape to the joints just for good measure LOL and for the added aesthetic of course. It would be sweet to see a picture!
@@cj_guinn I am on tictok as hellscapedmn there some pictures
Would appreciate an assembly video indeed. I really liked your home fixing videos / how to build etc as well to be both educational and enjoyable. Gives a lot of great ideas and a good step by step feel to it as well.
Keep up the great work and have a nice day.
Thanks for considerable probing, Paul 😁!
Thanks for the GPU water cooling and AIO topic… It’s actually great timing with the upgrade I’m considering right now!
Water cooling makes a bigger difference for GPU performance than for CPUs due to GPU running at 100% almost continuously while gaming. It also reduces the amount of heat the GPU is dumping right below the CPU, which matters a lot if your CPU is air cooled. Add on to that it reduces the weight and size of the card itself so it isn't prone to sagging.
This
Water blocks aren’t exactly light weight… But lighter than heat sinks, yeah by a little bit.
I am for watercooling a GPU.
What I don't get is why AIB partners make large size, dual-slot ITX and Low Profile GPUs like the RTX 4060 and don't try tapping into more the huge SFF market.
For example, I own an off brand case that's 7.3L and fits a Micro-ATX motherboard. It's comfortable enough for one to fit a 67mm+ high CPU cooler and can still fit in a backpack, but it only uses low profile cards.
And yet the case is spacious enough to fit a dual 80mm radiator setup which would be good to mounting a low profile version of a GPU like the 4070 or 7700XT in it.
This would help remove the 8GB bottleneck gpu most sub
I remember you saying last time that you didn't have time to re-organize the office/set. It looks like you got to that! I have to say, it looks really nice! 👍🏻
Soft Box Video? Yes, please! I look forward to seeing the process (should you choose to make a video of it).
As an photographer it would be interesting to a light defuser box build.
Thanks for all Paul
Yes Paul, I would like to see a video on the dimable lightbox you are building. Keep up the great work on your content, thanks...
It's funny, you can tell Paul and GN Steve both came from humble beginnings. They both very pro-consumer and keep budgets in mind with sensible upgrade paths despite having large platforms where they could easily say "bigger number better, go get bigger number". Cheers Paul.
Love all the DIY videos.
I am up for any DIY video you do, always entertaining and educational
Good video Paul. Thanks for all of you and your team's hard work. I would like to see the dimmable light bulb project. That sounds interesting/useful. And, i was wondering about underclocking CPU/GPUs. Is that something, that you generally get on board with. Enjoy the videos!
I enjoy these so much; thank you, Paul! I have been following you since the Newegg days, and I commend you on all your hard work! I am not too sure if anyone has asked this in a previous probe, but whatever happened to Arctic Panther? Cheers! 🍻
If you take the money you save by going from an AIO to a regular air cooler, and then spend the money to go from say a 14700k to a 14900k, you may regret not having an AIO... even worse if you stretch to a 14900ks. I probably spent too much on a Corsair H150 AIO for my build, but I read before I bought that their warranty was good (even replacing damaged components from an AIO leak), so decided to go with that. My PC looks great, I'm happy with the performance of the 13700k, and it's totally silent.
I say build it they way *you* like it.
Yes we want to see the light box build!
I've been running the same pump (Laing DDC) on a custom loop for the last 12 years.
I custom loop my 4090, I couldn’t stand how big the air cooler was. Just my personal preference though, plus it runs cooler.
I love watercooling. Had been doing it since the 90's. Love all about it. The tinkering. We used to make our own cooling blocks. The lower noise. The better temps.
Yet, my system right now does not have water in it.
Performance wise the difference has gotten super small, with "air" collers, which are basicly liquid coolers, without pumps. Heat pipes are little liquid coolers, after all.
The only thing I miss is the quiet running. Custom loop watercooled PC is a whole different world of quiet, than the best air cooled one. It has gotten better too on that front and 80% of people won't mind the fan noise.
The main reason, why I have at least 1000€ worth of watercooling stuff laying around, but nothing in my personal PC is that I cannot afford to break stuff, with those prices.
Custom loops are always slightly dangerous. I have not killed any components with water, yet. But I have seen enough GPUs with dribbled water on them that have gone the way of the Dodo. Also, I have seen water on my own parts, but never burned anything, yet.
AIOs I could never get behind. Mainly because of the limited lifespan.
I will go back in the future. Mostly for the silent running and the tinkering. Water is life.
Thank you for your answer Paul! Never thought I would actually get an answer directly from you! I'm super grateful for the insight thanks!!
Very interested in seeing the attempt at a softbox construction.
In the response to the first question I just want to say that I love my PowerColor Liquid Devil 7900TXT.
Yes, very much, so I love DIY projects of any description, but I have a special love for lighting and studio type projects that are geared towards saving money…. So I guess what I’m saying is YES, PLEASE PAUL !
Love to see another DIY video, please.
Great info as usual. 2 Very Quick Question: 1) How often should one replace the thermal paste? 2) For those of us that game and do video editing what's a good baseline build? (my current build is starting to stutter when I try to do anything else while working with Adobe (photo/video editing) ... Older machine Ryzen 9 3900x; Rtx 2070; 64gb ram
Definitely yes on the light box build. Love the DIY videos.
I am wondering how you like the Corsair chair after you have used it for more than a year?
I'm planning to buy a 16GB VRAM GPU. My current preference is NVidia and I always go for the 60series. Currently using 6GB 1060 with a 1440p monitor. My past GPUs are 4GB 960, and ~800MB 260 (till it broke). I am stating all this to give you context as I always go for a higher ram within my budget. For some reason, I think that higher ram will serve better in the long term. Whatever games I am playing right now are working well (racing games). So the Q is, is buying 4060 16GB is a good idea right now if I want to keep it for ~6years? Or should I wait another generation. Note that I used GTX 260 for ~6years, GTX 960 for ~7years, then 1060 for ~2years now (got it second hand).
completely agree on the water cooling assessment. Only really worth it when overclocking, etc. the highest version cpu or gpu. So many excellent air coolers out there. I've had to change out a couple of aio water coolers already due to pump failure and moving to air cooling works fine and much more reliable imo.
For the white keyboard Paul is using, there's simply a newer version of the K70 in white, which is widely available. I recently bought the K70 PRO WHITE.
After careful consideration of lots of keyboards. And I'm very happy with it. I've been using it for around 3 weeks now. I upgraded from my old K65 TKL from 2017, to this one. Well worth the upgrade. I most definitely wouldnt want to go back.
The K70 Pro White has PBT keycaps, so no ABS which wears. It has optical switches, which means a long lifespan of the switches. 150 mill clicks. And as was tested on Rtings, this keyboard has a response time of only 3,8 ms. Which is short, also compared to other top tier keyboards.
As for how the keyboard feels in use. The keycaps have a bit of a rough texture, which is nice. Your fingers won't slip, even when sweaty. And this texture will remain because it's made from PBT plastic and not the cheaper ABS plastic. The total travel distance feels pleasant as well, and most notably it has a somewhat soft landing at the end of it's travel distance. Which is especially nice in use, for typing or gaming. It doesnt make much noise either, although it is still audible. Compared to the K65 it's a night and day difference in sound.
The RGB is really well done, and it shines amazingly with the white keycaps, and the brushed aluminium top. Enough ways for the light to bounce, and stay bright. It has the option to save RGB-profiles on the onboard memory. With this, after having stored the profile on the onboard memory, the iCue software doesnt even need to be running on the pc anymore.
Totally agree 100% and even on the top tier hardware, it is merely optional. you can also underclock/undervolt if you want less noise. It is just generally good practice these days if you don't want your 500W CPU to run at 100C and burn itself up in a couple of years. You quite literally can't have it all. You can chose a statistically insignificant boost to benchmark performance and appearance or you can just have a solid gaming/streaming/productivity PC that will just work. Do some basic maintenance, tolerate slightly more noise (it isn't hard - I have extra sensitive hearing and I'm not quibbling over a couple dB) and have a reliable PC that will work the same in a decade as it does today, with few worries.
I use cheap 87 key keyboards with genuine MX switches that cost around $70. They have been rock solid for several years. The only real improvement I could make to them would be PBT caps. They are heavy and stable keyboards.
Even Cherry only charges around $90 for a wired mechanical RGB keyboard. Some of the companies building 'gaming keyboards' are really just taking consumers for a ride. They're building their own pale imitations of Cherry switches just to squeeze even more money out of the uninitiated.
I think when it comes to AIO's it's a personal choice and also who's going to maintain the computer. In particular graphics cards i think there are of course unique use case where it may not only make sense, but the case/build doesn't give you air cooled options that generally are available in general case designs.
Always down for a good DIY video.
Hi Paul, always love a good probing. I've been thinking of upgrading to a OLED monitor (MSI MPG 321URX). The room my PC is in is fairly bright. How much will glare effect the monitor? I'm currently running a Pixio 329 VA 1440p 32" 165 hz.
Yes, I'd like to see a build video for you light box.
Damn getting deep on that probe Paul
Great video, as always. I totally agree with you that water cooling is okay, not a necessity, but nice to have if you want to spend the cash. I do have my complete system water cooled but I have enjoyed it and the performance over the past couple of years.
Hey Paul! Thanks for doing these. My question is will there be any break in AM5 motherboard prices? Even the cheapest AM5 board is as expensive as the processor itself.
I have the Corsair K70 MK.2. Got it new a few years ago for $80 USD on sale at Best Buy. Great Keyboard!
My main reason for getting AIO 4090 (msi suprim) was the physical size of the card .... the 3.75 slot air cooled cards just seem overboard and I needed access to my other full size pci slots. However the AIO does do a good job of cooling
Same for me with the a Inno3D RTX 4090.
An aircooled card will not fit in my pc case and the temps stay very low, even in pathtraced Cp 2077.
my aio has lasted 8 years so far. still chugging
I enjoy building custom loops, mainly for the look and a quieter set up. As I refresh all hardware, at least every other generation, I’m not too concerned about cleaning, I replace everything including the case when I rebuild. My eldest son has a 14900K and RTX4090 custom loop whilst my youngest is on the 5800X3D with RTX3090, so he will get an upgrade when the AM5 and 5000 series come out.
Hey Paul, quick question for next probing paul: I'm thinking about upgrading RAM capacity from 16 to maybe 32 or 64GB on my 5800x3D rig. My question is, do I give my PC a mullet and go with 64GB of ECC 3200 or just stick with 32GB B die?
Context: I am on a Vision D-P B550 (ECC support), my current 16GB ram is OC'd to 3600 CL 14. I do way more single player games than I do Solidworks & FEA , but I keep running into situations where I'd like at least 32GB of Ram. The motherboard, cpu, and ram are all destined to be server hardware (currently a i5 2500k & 32GB ddr3).
I quit aio 6 years ago . Not missing them
. Air is
Good , silent , and waterproof
Did you have something leak? 😅
i have 18 noctua fans (including the dual nhd-15s) in my single corsair 900D tower. dead quiet, ice cold, and it's not gonna stop working for AGES
and last longer than 3-5 years AND will be able to go from build to build for 10+ years (AM3/4/5 is goated)
I would definitely be interested in the build process for the soft box.. please if you’re able to, make a video about it.. Also, I love the videos.. I wanted to say, keep up the great work..
I literally never thought to check if it was possible to have multiple instances of calculator open at the same time. I learned something new today!
Question, though: I've typically gone 3-5 years between builds, but this time around, it seemed more difficult to get a build that felt "future-proofed" enough to last that long. I've finally be able to "settle down" with a build (went from 10700 + 3060, to 5600X3D + a750, and now to 5600X3D + 7800 XT). I know it's impossible to see into the future, but how long do you think a build like that would stay 'relevant' to use before upgrading? I'm a bit burnt out of building stuff at the moment lol
Edit: And in case anyone asks, that 10700 + 3060 build was given to a family member as a gift, since he was running an IED of a SFF 4th gen optiplex with an RX 570 shoved in there...somehow.
Hi, Paul! Is that a small LCD screen on your monitor's bottom bezel? If so, did that come standard with the monitor or was it a custom mod you made?
Thanks!
I just built a luchbox size pc. 14900k with a 135mm tower cooler wasn't working to well. Lowered the wattage to 275 too. Once I did a custom dual 92mm radiator, temps were much better and took longer to hit 100c before throttling down to 90c.
Yes, lighting video please.
I had a 1080ti FE that was loud as hell, and over time the blower fan wasn’t working well, with the temp hitting as high as 88C. So I used an NZXT G12 kit to add a 240mm AIO to the 1080ti. It worked great. Much quieter and temps were mid 50s to 60C under load.
Will we ever get a mechanical version of the Logitech G510S keyboard? While an older keyboard membrane, I have yet to find any mechanical keyboard that offers the macro keys (awesome for binding to various keyboard shortcuts in photoshop and davinci resolve), media controls, and the built in LCD that offers system stats.
In my case, I built my latest system for modding Skyrim/Nolvus. That mod took my MSI 4090 to 84 deg solid/100%. Clocks didn't like it. At all. So I went to a custom loop for the card. Block/pump/res and a monsta 360 w/nf12 industrial fans.
Temps now under 50 deg under max load and clocks happy. Worth it for me. Much better. One fan will keep it cool on max speed. but 3 at lower speed is a much quieter experience.
I will go custom water cooled when I get better at bending 316 stainless. Do the water blocks use standard NPT threads?
when it comes to purely performance, I agree that liquid cooling is largely impractical. However, when we factor in acoustics, I would argue that liquid cooling is in certain cases the only good option since you can achieve the same performance but at lower DB.
I like my PCs to be whisper quiet, and on my desk. It is hard to achieve this with specific CPUs due to [surface area : power draw] ratio (5800x over here) even with water cooling. Without hampering performance you have to do some tweaks to get it performing well while being quiet (undervolting + limiting power so the clocks are the same but it runs cooler).
With GPU is can be worse depending on your stock cooler. My 3080 ICX 2.0 (i think) could not run at max performance for more than a few min. and it was LOUD. In order to run it at max settings, i needed to liquid cool it. That also came with the added benefit of making run nearly silently.
Given the option, I would air cool everything IF i could get the performance and acoustics of watercooling. Until then, ill be watercooling as needed.
More Realist upgrade content like this pls. Keep up the great
content 👌🏻
Here I am planning on switching everything over to air cooling so I don't have to worry about maintenance
Dust removal is still kinda maintenance.
@@minskwatcher hoesntly dust isnt tht big of a deal nowadays. maybe back in the early 90s and 2000s but now its not even a problem. bought my pc in 2016 and i dusted it out the first year and after that never again and still no problems. cant wait to drop 5k on my next pc once the new gpus come out RTX 5090 here i come
I went to air cooling because I really didn't like that looming worry of something leaking.
After a decade my Corsair closed loop finally failed so I went with an air cooler for the first time on the old Haswell 4770k overclocked to 4.4g. I'm happy I did because the tech has come a long way. A well chosen $25 cooler now easily handles the 110 watts or so the chip puts out. When I built this rig it would have taken a super larger and expensive air cooler to OC at good temps.
@@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars If you have a 4770K, the first thing you should do is delid it and put liquid metal on the die. Temp will drop drastically. After all these years , the thermal poop that Intel put between the IHS and the die will dry out . Those are the dark years that Intel use thermal poop instead of using indium solder to cut cost.
Yes to the diy light box video
Do you recommend XPG New case ? The mid tower with back connect cut-outs.
I have the corsair h100i closed loop cpu cooler. I have been running it for about 10yrs without having to do any maintenance. Cpu under full load sits at a average of 63 degrees.
I have two separate AIOs, and the GPU dumps heat out of the top of the case. It absolutely helps.
The air cooled card heated everything inside the case because it's blowing hot air directly onto the motherboard and everything.
Hello Paul!
I'm going to put together a new system in the next year or whenever the GTX 5070 drops. Can you explain what Intel chipset is the best? How do I choose a chipset? Are there any rules of thumb in selecting a chipset.
Yes I would like to see a video of the building of the light box.
yes i would like to see how you build the light
Thanks so much for answering my question! I've been considering an aftermarket aio solution over a custom loop. A company called alphacool makes GPU aios that can replace the stock cooler.
Hi Paul is the thermal grizzly Kryosheet graphene pad worth using as a forever solution.
i have a dual 360 hard lined loop on my 3080ti. i did this to fit a look i wanted, and to keep it quiet. its wall mounted as my media center pc in my living room so i wanted zero fan noise. i also have a 360 hard line on my 5600x as well. it has its uses but it takes time. this was a two day build that took band saws, drills, paint guns, welders, and 3d printing
I did watercooling for my 2080ti back in the before time. My current system GPU (6950) I couldn't care less about such things.
Which is a more meaningful monitor upgrade? 2K To 4K, or VA to OLED? Or should I go for both?
Although i would generally agree here with Paul, noise, form factor and the specific components & potential for improvement i think are worth giving thought to when considering WC. In the example here 7900XTX sure although it's less expensive but very similar 7900XT is one i think you would see larger performance gains from WC before you get into specific power draw mods
All in all and beyond those potential issues, it's never a good idea to mix water and electrical systems, and even more when the PC parts prices are like we have nowdays.
Heck yeah, let’s do the soft box video
Back in 2010 I built a custom fully water cooled system with an EVGA X58 Classified motherboard, an Intel Core i7-980X CPU and two AMD Radeon HD 6970 graphics cards in crossfire setup. This system has been running every day for 14 years and is currently being used by one of my friends without any issues. The main reason why I'm building water cooled system is to have a silent system, with benefits being reliability and low maintenance. Of course I have overclocked the system but the benefits aren't really worth the cost in my opinion, especially these days since overclocking CPU's and CPU's us much more restricted than before. Maybe the pumps aren't as reliable as before, but that water cooling has been way more reliable than any air cooled system. To conclude: if you build a water cooled system do it for the extremely low noise properties.
@7:44 I think you meant to type 1920 instead you typed 1980
A lights video would be interesting yep! A quick question perhaps.. maybe even an answer just away from the show.. If you were running an AM4 system, 5700x and an EVGA 1070sc gpu, powered off an EVGA 650gq PSU.. what might you aim for as a modest but worthwhile upgrade for the gpu? Not too concerned about fps, sat on a dual 1440p/1080p monitor setup.. might think about 4k later, but would like to be a bit more balanced on the cpu..
Another scenario is if you enjoy tinkering with overclocking not for game performance but just to maximize and see how fast you can make your components run.
Saw the mini 8700G video. Any advice how to maximize it's potential without spending too much money ? Thinking of building micro-atx 8700G PC.
Paul I'd love to see the soft box build.
I'd love a video on the soft box!!
I was specing a new PC and was trying to figure out how to get the most out of a 13th/14th gen Intel chip. It seems undervolting the chip prevents it from throttling and keeping the temperature down.
Hello Paul,I am returning to probe you once again. I am looking to make the leap from AM4 to AM5 to take advantage of the 3DX chips. My question revolves around the gaming vs workflow issue. My machine is primordially a gaming rig, but on a rare occasion I work from home and I use drawing software such as autodesk AutoCAD and Revit. There is a 4090 FE at the heart of my current machine and that will migrate to the new AM5 system. Should I go with the 7800X 3D or the more expensive 7900X 3D?
Thank you Paul l have build many custom water cooled systems for about 15 years ! and loved the way you made this video! because l ended up with original graphics cooling/air cooling and original all in one CPU but the right power cooling for right CPU cooling it's easy to maintain so l think if you could please make more videos about this kind of videos would really help beginners or even mid seasoned PC builders! Thank you so much for very informative video once again!
Would love to see a build of new lighting.
hey paul quick question should i run my AIO pump at 100% or will it hurt the performance
Heck yes to the DIY soft box!
I have 2 computers. One is running a Corsair AIO on the CPU that has been through 2 upgrades, is about 6 years old and still cools just fine. The other has a custom loop cooling the CPU and GPU. It has been running, almost 24-7, for 3 years now. Neither have ever hiccupped. In the custom loop I run straight clear Primochill PC Ice coolant with no dyes. I keep thinking I might tear it down an check the water blocks, but my temps haven't gone up and I don't want to risk creating any leaks. the only real problem with liquid cooling your GPU is the expense of a water block.
Hey paul I've been out of PC for a bit, used to watch you back in the day. Looking to upgrade. I have a 3800x on an x470 with a 3070. How worth would it be to fully redo my system and go to am5 chip (7800x3d) and going form 3070 -> 4070 S?
are old coolers are sufficient to cool recent cpus?
I have corsair h150 360mm and I am planning to upgrade to ryzen 7 7800x3d, and I dunno if I need to upgrade my cooler
Yes please! We need video on soft box.
I want to see the light box build. I have a similar project planned. Any insight is good.
I built my first custom water cooled PC, and I built a custom case. It's currently Open air simply because I haven't cut the acrylic side panels. It has an Asus ROG STRIX B650E-I, AMD Ryzen 7 7700x, Asus ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, 32gb of DDR5-6000 CL30, a Silverstone SX1000-LPT 1000w SXF PSU, a 1Tb gen3 m.2 SSD for OS, and a 1Tb Crucial T700 gen5 SSD for games. As for the water cooling setup I have two Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 radiators with push/pull fans and a Quantum Velocity² DDC pump/res/block from EK. My GPU NEVER gets hot, but the CPU gets hot no matter how fast the pump and fans are running. Yes, I know that's how the CPU is designed to work.
Now for the questions: How thick does the radiator need to be before you recommend to have the fans in push/pull? What is the minimum radiator size you recommend per overclocked component that it cools? What quiet fans would you recommend for having a good price with decent pressure/airflow? I'm currently using eight ARCTIC P14 PST 72.8 CFM, would you recommend an upgrade?
I love just how silent my computer can be while staying very cool, that's why I water cooled. Oh, and the performance of this custom setup kicks any AIO I've ever used to the curb.
Paul, I want a 'mid range' GPU. does the DLSS of the 4070 super make it a better purchase than say AMD's AI on the 7800xt? Also does the lower amount of RAM of the 4070 vs the 7800xt make a difference? Thanks in advance.
I have custom water cooling, not because it has high-end components, but because the computer works much quieter. And because of the gpu temperature too. 48c(now) vs 70c
This is my deal right now, My XFX Merc 310 7900 XT in a close case with good fans runs a 90C on the hot spot and 65-70C on the package (90C is its throttle limit and she walked a fine line with it). I have now got the system in an open wall mount case (Thermaltake p3 pro TG) as I have an Alphacool AIO coming for the GPU and the old case could only handle one 360 rad and my CPU AIO was already using it. Now that its in the new case it holds about 85-87C on the hot spot and 60 on the package. the AIO will help a ton in keeping it cool. A cool running chipset is a long life chipset and I don't plane on needing to upgrade for the next 4-5 years lol.
That's not the way to go anymore if you care about the noise. You get a cheap fanless computer as your general use computer and if you want to game or do something that takes more performance then you just connect to the big PC remotely. Just keep the computer somewhere you can't hear it. Technology has come so far that doing it that way is obsolete
You don't even need wires between the basic computer and the server. WiFi 5 is just good enough for 4k, but WiFi 6E and WiFi 7 would be even better. Moonlight+sunshine is da way
Ah yes, remote gaming. I love huge input latency.
Seriously, I tried Steam's remote play once with both computers connected to the same switch and it was so laggy that even playing Ace Attorney was unbearable.
Get outta here with your complete nonsense.
Okay but WHY do you want to keep the temperature so low? There's no tangible benefit for it, the PC outputs the same amount of joules as heat regardless. Also watercooling setups can be noisy.
For your PC at home, watercooling is mostly done as a hobby. Just for the fun of it. And it's okay to admit that