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As someone who used to hack up Dell optiplexes to make sweet sleepers, I highly recommend you completely empty the pc case before using a dremel or angle grinder. This will make sure there is 0% chance of metal dust or shavings from shorting a component on your motherboard
Was looking for this comment before posting my own. A short might occur and kill your hardware/data. Or worse, burn down your building. It's a small chance but not worth the risk. Even more so if you sell the PC
I used an m720s for my build, when I grided the piece of the inner cage out I put a sheet over it to make sure nothing went inside the PC, seems like common sense...
Xbox Series S is the best budget console ever. 1080p to 1440p 60 FPS for less than 200€ is incredible. I finished Cyberpunk, Elden Ring and Lies of P on it
@@ps3andrhcp I currently have one I tried to play elden ring and Jedi survivor on console and it was terrible I switched to pc to play those games Its not hate it's Being realistic heavy use of upscalers to reach 30 fps Is ridiculous
This is the first time I'd heard of it working on anything older than a Radeon 6xxx GPU based computer or Nvidia equivilant (2020 or later rig I'd gather). I didn't know there was a hack out there for older UEFI based computers.
It doesn't fit the qualifications of small form factor and low power, but I just built my first "office pc turned gaming pc" ever, and I'm pretty proud of it. For about $250, I ended up with an i7 6700k, RX 580 8gb, 16gb ddr4, 128gb ssd, 1tb hdd, and a new 600w psu to make it run. This was super rewarding and fun to do, and I love channels/videos like this that play with that low budget concept. Keep it up, Oz!
Congrats thats some pretty great value for your dollars, i hope you find the cash for some more ssd some time soon though, as they really do make such a huge difference in the usability of the pc
@@nerd20fromdiscord Definitely! I haven't decided exactly what I'm going to do with it yet because I have a more powerful main pc, but if I keep it around as a second rig then I'll probably stick my old laptop's 500gb m.2 in it for that exact reason.
@@brett_norris i would recommend going to the craft store and finding stuff to put on it to make it look nice (fake wood veneer vinyl wrap looks cool, or something like that) and then selling it as a flip for 280-300, earn some more cash and do another! Or maybe if your feeling generous you could sell it for the upfront value of what you paid for it and make a budget gamer very happy
@@nerd20fromdiscord Love that idea! I am between selling it for $250-$300 or just giving it to either my girlfriend or my friend's girlfriend so they can game with us occasionally. Haven't decided. The nice thing about the Lenovo pc I started with for it is that it actually comes in a pretty unique looking case to begin with, so it doesn't look completely like a boring office pc. Still, I have been considering doing some kind of customization to make it look even cooler.
My favorite random part of this video is at the 2:32 mark when Ozi groans, and that bottom most PCIe bracket randomly pops out LOL. It was just too perfect timing with the annoyance of the card not fitting, those brackets can be super annoying when they pop out of place since they aren't held in by individual screws. Oh the struggles of a "graphics card slapped into an office tower" formula lol
I had to drill out a hard drive cage in my Dell Optiplex just to get a video card in there. The overhead in those machines is really tight; frustratingly so.
Modifying a Vbios for a Asus Strix 3080 OC to make Rebar work was one of the most hair raising experiences of my life! So I completely understand all the frustration you went through. Good that you got it working in the end! 👍
The beauty of having a physical eeprom programmer is if it flashes a bad bios it usually doesn't matter if the chip isn't damaged you can flash it with one that works once you have a working one. I bricked a board I kept because it had an nforce chipset that was useful for things newer boards can't do anymore, there were two HP boards one had two less ram slots soldered on and three less audio jacks otherwise the boards were identical even the same audio ic they just had it configured differently in the bios which is where my fiddling with the other boards bios to work on mine because the same board with just more ram slots supported more cpus (for segmenting reasons alone as is the other boards bios funcitoned perfectly aside from the audio jacks being in the wrong order and some not existing) so I was trying to get the other boards bios with edits to configure the audio ic for my boards port layout and it halts after the ram test and goes no farther. I didn't have a programmer to fix it or know about them at the time.. so the board got thrown out :(.
@@MarcoLoves360gamer If you have the same card, the newest VBios from Asus is V5 which works so I think you should be okay. I had attempted the VBios flash when Asus only released V3 which is buggy. I flashed my GB z390 Aorus Master to support Rebar without issues but flashing the Strix to V3 resulted in it not putting out a display on reboot. Thank the Gods that card has dual bios. This allowed me to reboot using the working bios when I flipped the switch. Then I had to 'trick' the graphics card into accepting a modified older bios on the initial bios setting as the newer bios would not install with Asus' program. I had to use a third party install program if I am not mistaken but I got it working in the end. Scary. V5 installs fine though
The $300 version of this with a 3050 6GB would be the MUCH better play for someone actually attempting a build like this. Plug and play pretty much, with the addition of all the Nvidia goodies.
Thats actially the exact route I went for building a secondary pc for running Windows (I wanted to run Linux on my main pc but still needed Windows occasionally and hated rebooting) I went with an HP EliteDesk 800 G2 SFF, but I don't recommend it because the 3050 intersects the USB 3 header. Getting a right-angle adapter to fit underneath worked, but then it would get this annoying message on boot about the USB header being disconnected because apparently its missing a special HP jumper. Had to solder a small wire to bridge certain pins on the back of the mobo after a ton of RUclips research 😅 Also the thermals are abysmal, so I added a fan secured by ziptie chains to point it at the GPU lol. Computer is also loud because of the proprietary PSU fan, and cant do much about it. Definitely the most sub-optimal way of making a pc work, and the 300 dollar price tag felt a biiiit overpriced for the performance but it performs steadily and runs all the games I need. I should have just gone with an MT build, I really didn't need the SFF form factor 😅
@@OzTalksHW that’d be great! That + a Mem Upgrade and these could compete at 1440p with the upscaling tech, would likely see a decent uplift in performance and image quality over the S. To me the current sweet spot is a budget 1440p gaming monitor with a ‘1080p’ Nvidia GPU where you can use DLSS Quality/Balanced presets to make up the performance with a much better output and daily usage scenario.
The HP Z2 G4 SFF would be a much better option that would have solved some of your issues here. No need to cut anything to fit any LP GPU, has more NVMe m.2 slots, has a better power supply... and it actually has USB3 ports on the rear. It also costs a similar amount of money. There are several auctions on eBay right now for $67, with i5 9500's and 16GB of RAM. As for the GPU, this only confirms what I've been telling people, the BIOS mod is not worth it to run Arc... just be patient and grab a 1650 in an auction for around $100 - $120 instead.
It sucks that the value proposition of arc is destroyed on OEM pcs like this. Also kind of crazy how expensive these low profile cards are, it almost defeats the whole purpose of going with an OEM pc to save money. I love the idea of a low power, low profile machine, but it sucks that the price to performance is so bad on them. Love your reccomendation of the Z2 G4 though, it's crazy that we can get a 9th gen i5 for so cheap.
@@spoobspoob2270 Absolutely. I don't know why that decision was made, or if they didn't have an option, but they really lost a good portion of the market that would have loved a less expensive option... the OEM gaming PC crowd. It's such a missed opportunity. As for LP cards, I get why they're so expensive... it's just a super niche market. As such, they are just very low production, and thus they tend to be more expensive. I was very surprised that the 4060 LP was the same price as the full height cards. Granted, the 4060 was over priced to begin with. I really do like the Z2 series. I have a G4 SFF as one of my personal systems and I do like the OEM SFF systems, despite the cost involved. They also have a tower system, which uses the same board, but has room for just about any GPU and comes with a 500 watt or a 650 watt power supply. I really do think people are sleeping on these. I've been buying them and flipping them as gaming PC's and they're a hell of a deal.
@@TheGameBench wow, that power supply is a hell of a steal for the Z2, you could get something like an rx580 and still be fine on wattage! I've always thought that the 580 was a no-go on OEM systems since they never include a good enough PSU, which was a shame since it's 1060 levels of performance for about 1/2 to 2/3 the price. It's so fun to flip these PCs and configure them, it's satisfying to give people proper performing hardware for cheap instead of whatever crap is being sold on Amazon with anemic specs XD
@@spoobspoob2270 I mean... the 500 watt has an 8-pin and a 6-pin. I've been tossing RTX 3060 12GB in them. All in, they're costing me $400 to $500 to put together with an i7 8700, 32GB of RAM a 1TB NVMe drive and a 1TB HDD. The 500 watt PSU would def be good for more that a 180 watt GPU. Just got one with a i7 9700K and the 650 watt PSU. Thinking I'll throw a 3080 in it.
In this case I prefer the Xbox, apart from the fact that I think it's a very good console for playing, I don't think a $200 PC would perform the same for me.
I still have my series s, i love the ability to revisit og xbox and 360 titles. Playing gears of war at 60fps is amazing. As for bios flashing, i have that same programming chip, its amazing!
We are so happy that Dante was able to create a plan that you love and has helped your back pain go away! Hopefully all the training translates into faster thumbs on your new 'xbox' 😆Thanks for sharing your fitness journey with trainwell so far!
Brodi. I love how the audio quality sounds maybe add compression for those peaks that pop out suddenly. Love how simple and straightforward the video is. we want more!
The Xbox Series X 512GB model is officially priced at $299.99 on the Xbox website and $298.99 at Walmart. Therefore, Acearty23 is correct; with an additional $100, one could opt for a better GPU and CPU or a better GPU or CPU and more RAM. It's not as complicated as the video suggests; the complexity was likely added for entertainment. This is a solid option for $197. Edit: He had an even larger budget. The Xbox Series S 1TB Carbon Black or the (Robot White releasing on October 15, 2024) is priced at $349.99. With that amount, you could easily build a powerful system.
You can use the keyboard, mouse and browser to do SNS, shopping, watching videos, and you can also use the browser version of Word and PowerPoint. If you don't do deep creative work such as 3D design, composing, or complex video editing, I recommend the Xbox.
Such a great calm builder. The comparison to Bob Ross is quite accurate because he gives such a great vibe of a massive hug while he is talking. They share this ability. It calms down you down as a viewer and makes you feel appreciated. Great vibe. Keep it up.
Just came across this channel, and I love the Vox-esque format. The jazz, the subtle sound effects, and on screen diagrams really make this video entertaining. Good stuff, Mr. Oz!
Love how you're taking care of your health and bringing awareness of it to others, back pain is the main issue from sit down jobs, even with a 1500 dollar herman miller if u sit all day you WILL get back pain from not having activity.
I still don't understand how there are so many clean refurbished compuers, yes spelled right... compuers available. Everytime I've bought a refurbished computer it has problems even after refurbishment. Your channel is awesome. I love your lectures and demos. Thank you for producing, taping, editing and sharing. Great channel.
That model I believe can also have a handle drilled to the top if the battery is on the bottom I did this to mine and I'm able to comfortably pick it up and bring it to friends houses. The hardware upgrades I did was a 4060 for the GPU in a sound card x-fi forte with a pcie extension cable for some odd reason Lenovo decided not to add an extra pcie slot on the bottom so I tucked the pcie extension cable underneath the video card and routed it to the spot where one would be. I also had to make room for that by cutting and using metal snips to cut out of the cage that folds over in that unit. But because of having a GPU in that area I wanted more airflow so I ended up using a Dremel with a cutting blade on it like your friend did in the video and cut out a window on the side panel and used decorative metal sheets from home Depot that had Vents you can duct tape the vents to the panel or use some J-B weld.
Thanks for going through the resizable bar fix. I was not aware of this, and seeing you fix the issues that came up as part of it all the way to a working state is very helpful. Loved this video.
@@Oni_CodmThe Xbox Series X 512GB model is officially priced at $299.99 on the Xbox website and $298.99 at Walmart. Therefore, Acearty23 is correct; with an additional $100, one could opt for a better GPU and CPU or a better GPU or CPU and more RAM. It's not as complicated as the video suggests; the complexity was likely added for entertainment. This is a solid option for $197. Edit: He had an even larger budget. The Xbox Series S 1TB Carbon Black or the (Robot White releasing on October 15, 2024) is priced at $349.99. With that amount, you could build a powerful system. Apologies Oni_Codm I didn't mean to cook This much. 😂
For my series s killer build i bought a 3050 6gb low profile. It's only $170-180. Get a an older sff and slap this in. It should total you $250 or so but it is worth it. A380 is not bad its just if bios have no Rebar than it will limit performance.
I think the best use for a pc like this, is as emulatin center on the tv. Install all Emulators you like, even PS 2 and 3 , Xbox 360 etc and play all the good old games in High res. and you have a little super console.
I made a gaming pc out of a dell vostro 3670.. extremely tiny case for the video card I selected for the build. It actually wouldn’t fit in the case like at all. So I took my old rx 580 and shoved it in there. I bent the case to MAKE it fit. Runs exceptionally well with a different psu. Yes, I run my case open at the moment it I have plans to modify the side panel to allow better airflow. The only thing I’d say that I’m not happy with is the fact that the board that comes with the pc doesn’t have another system fan socket. Great pc for what I play and I only spent 150$.
PC building man specially on an extreme budget of stressful even when I'm not the one doing it and I'm watching other people do it, but your channel is so peaceful and relaxing like I seriously think you need to change it to peaceful PC or Bob Ross something PC building because bro you take the stress out of it and it's actually very enjoying watching you work on PCs
Watching the video is just amazing. I mean, I love his voice, is so calming, so soothing. The vibe is amazing and the content is awesome. Incredible job 👏👏👏
You forgot to add that you needed a PhD engineer in order to help you mod the case. Which will be THE hardest part for most of your fanbase. It is a very interesting concept, however the sheer greed of these mainstream companies are having them lockdown PCs that should never need to be.
I've been through most of these steps with different systems. At first I was yelling along about ReBar and how OEM systems have pretty much guaranteed BIOS locks in place (checksums) to avoid even booting hardware flashed BIOSes. Until the very end I was yelling "that won't work" at every step. I'm surprised Lenovo doesn't lock via checksum. For HP and Dell, I can almost guarantee they won't boot with a hardware flashed BIOS because it expects a certain checksum. It'll just give you a beautiful series of beeps.
bought one last year, upgraded to QN8J cpu with 64G ram, served me well as a little promox server, the fan can be noisy in summer though, it never stop yelling when my room temperature got 35℃
I'm happy to know that trainwell has helped you with those physical problems, you are really an example to follow, I love your videos and your dedication to them.
@@leviathan5207Completely agree. That gets ignored pretty much every time someone does this or discusses console vs PC, but it _has_ to be included in the cost, otherwise you’re being disingenuous.
Calling it now. Series S is going to be great as a plug and play 1080P gaming machine pulling in great performance in a smaller package. The portability can't be beat nor can the power consumption. The PC will keep up in gaming performance and perhaps even exceed depending on game title, and available upscale technologies. The PC will prove to have so much more utility in software availability and video encoding. The PC of these specs would be great for video editing, programming, music production, small time server utility (Plex server/ file or printer server) There's a lot of pros and cons to each, and I think the ThinkCentre was a perfect pick with Arc GPU
I remember when those Intel graphics cards came out they were too much at the time for such low performance, but I could totally see it being reasonable in a older computer at a hundred bucks. Sometimes it just doesn't make sense how all of those things can go together and be equivalent to an Xbox... But I'm glad you did it and it gives me confidence in doing it myself
I believe Bazzite Deck supports Intel Arc + GPU's for Steam Game mode, so you could turn this series S PC project into a Home theater PC with a steam deck like experience, maybe a quick short of installing that OS on this device to test if it works?
I just bought Lenovo V520s with i5 7400 for kinda the same purpose. It cost me £40 so I might splurge and get RTX3050 LP instead to avoid t he headache of flashing bios. As much as I like to tinker it is supposed to be stable media consumption / light gaming PC. I'm gonna most likely drop an i7 and 16GB of ram into it too.
Watching how the ps5 pro has gone down, the Series S has been the standout release of this console Gen, I love my PC but being able to take series S anywhere and play all modern games on it is such a great benefit for the price I got it for, $150
7:30 always wondered if Acer or if any OEM would let consumers edit small things in a BIOs like xmp mode for ram. Learning to build PCs has been freeing
I had picked up a Lenovo Thinkcentre M725s upgraded to a Ryzen 7 Pro 2700, 32GB of RAM and added a RX 6400. I also had to modify that part of the frame forfeiting the potential SATA SSD housing. Decent performance but the GPU is horrible.
The whole situation with the resizable bar sounds like one reason I put off getting a gaming pc. Some random thing you've never heard of before that requires manually flashing your bios chip to get the performance you expected. This sounds like an issue that not a lot of computers have, but I keep encountering things like this either on the hardware side or while trying desperately to get a game to run. I had horrible performance in one game until I changed the audio output frequency setting on my pc, who would think to try that?
good video but is there any other options for getting the performance of a xbox as a pc just from getting insane deals of ebay or locally? You post accessible hardware that anyone can get but i want to see the performance you can get even if its not available to everyone. :)
This is why all the family computers i have built are custom and are not modified OEM computers. Always get Bios/upgrade issues with OEMs. Had to physically drill out an m.2 screw to upgrade my wifes nvme on her Lenovo laptop.
Oh wow that's pretty cool, im actually building in an hp sff pc and was thinking about an arc gpu but the resizable bar stopped me from going that route, cool that you got it to work
Question. Can you run Halo The Master Chief collection on this computer? I was looking to do the same thing with an older Dell desktop I've had? Excellent video.
For about the same price of the intel card, you can get a used gtx 1070 which has twice the performance and 8gb of vram. Only downside is that it consumes twice the amount of power. And maybe that it's used.
I have the same model but just using a g5400, but I'll follow what you did as I'm gonna be using it for school, for some 3D and Mostly Adobe. Thanks for this Oz!
One thing that's worth mentioning is that the XSS is not actually a £200 console given that it's sold at a loss. So the hardware budget could be more if you were going to sell it or something. That being said well done.
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how come tha comment was posted 25mmin ago yest the video has only been out for 2 min
I bet Spelunky HD and every emulator would run in this computer (abomination b/c nothing fits)... lol. I'm serious about the games it could play.
What the... $25 off first month? Means it costs more than $25 a month? Thats crazy apps like this are free in play store
Thin snips make every GPU fit 100% did this set up with an A4000.
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You should change your yt channel to "Bob Ross PC building" or "The Joy of PC building"
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Just a little ram here and there ah..yes
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Facts bros been all soothing in his tone and everything ever since before i started following like 5 yrs ago!
@@soonerswillwinfulFr dude. :)
As someone who used to hack up Dell optiplexes to make sweet sleepers, I highly recommend you completely empty the pc case before using a dremel or angle grinder.
This will make sure there is 0% chance of metal dust or shavings from shorting a component on your motherboard
Was looking for this comment before posting my own. A short might occur and kill your hardware/data. Or worse, burn down your building. It's a small chance but not worth the risk. Even more so if you sell the PC
100%
I used an m720s for my build, when I grided the piece of the inner cage out I put a sheet over it to make sure nothing went inside the PC, seems like common sense...
If only HP didn’t rivet the motherboard and psu in certain cases :/ (shop smart even if the specs are good)
Wait until you find out blowers exist.
Xbox Series S is the best budget console ever. 1080p to 1440p 60 FPS for less than 200€ is incredible. I finished Cyberpunk, Elden Ring and Lies of P on it
what games does run at 60 fps and 1080 natively none all game are at 30 fps 480p
@@bernavazquez8405 braainrot
@bernavazquez8405 plenty of them lmao 480p. Nah the console is pretty damn crazy for the price and size. Literally hating for no reason.
For the pricing it’s pretty damn good. Too bad sony fucked up bad with their new ps5 pro with the pricing
@@ps3andrhcp I currently have one I tried to play elden ring and Jedi survivor on console and it was terrible I switched to pc to play those games Its not hate it's Being realistic heavy use of upscalers to reach 30 fps Is ridiculous
This is the first time I've heard of Resizable Bar. Thanks
This is the first time I'd heard of it working on anything older than a Radeon 6xxx GPU based computer or Nvidia equivilant (2020 or later rig I'd gather). I didn't know there was a hack out there for older UEFI based computers.
It doesn't fit the qualifications of small form factor and low power, but I just built my first "office pc turned gaming pc" ever, and I'm pretty proud of it.
For about $250, I ended up with an i7 6700k, RX 580 8gb, 16gb ddr4, 128gb ssd, 1tb hdd, and a new 600w psu to make it run. This was super rewarding and fun to do, and I love channels/videos like this that play with that low budget concept. Keep it up, Oz!
Congrats thats some pretty great value for your dollars, i hope you find the cash for some more ssd some time soon though, as they really do make such a huge difference in the usability of the pc
@@nerd20fromdiscord Definitely! I haven't decided exactly what I'm going to do with it yet because I have a more powerful main pc, but if I keep it around as a second rig then I'll probably stick my old laptop's 500gb m.2 in it for that exact reason.
@@brett_norris i would recommend going to the craft store and finding stuff to put on it to make it look nice (fake wood veneer vinyl wrap looks cool, or something like that) and then selling it as a flip for 280-300, earn some more cash and do another! Or maybe if your feeling generous you could sell it for the upfront value of what you paid for it and make a budget gamer very happy
@@nerd20fromdiscord Love that idea! I am between selling it for $250-$300 or just giving it to either my girlfriend or my friend's girlfriend so they can game with us occasionally. Haven't decided. The nice thing about the Lenovo pc I started with for it is that it actually comes in a pretty unique looking case to begin with, so it doesn't look completely like a boring office pc. Still, I have been considering doing some kind of customization to make it look even cooler.
@@brett_norris awesome, i hope you have fun with it! Good luck 👍
My favorite random part of this video is at the 2:32 mark when Ozi groans, and that bottom most PCIe bracket randomly pops out LOL. It was just too perfect timing with the annoyance of the card not fitting, those brackets can be super annoying when they pop out of place since they aren't held in by individual screws. Oh the struggles of a "graphics card slapped into an office tower" formula lol
I had to drill out a hard drive cage in my Dell Optiplex just to get a video card in there. The overhead in those machines is really tight; frustratingly so.
There’s always more issues than you bargain for with office PCs sometimes 😭
Love the calmness of your videos man, always able to just relax and watch the latest one.
Modifying a Vbios for a Asus Strix 3080 OC to make Rebar work was one of the most hair raising experiences of my life! So I completely understand all the frustration you went through. Good that you got it working in the end! 👍
The beauty of having a physical eeprom programmer is if it flashes a bad bios it usually doesn't matter if the chip isn't damaged you can flash it with one that works once you have a working one. I bricked a board I kept because it had an nforce chipset that was useful for things newer boards can't do anymore, there were two HP boards one had two less ram slots soldered on and three less audio jacks otherwise the boards were identical even the same audio ic they just had it configured differently in the bios which is where my fiddling with the other boards bios to work on mine because the same board with just more ram slots supported more cpus (for segmenting reasons alone as is the other boards bios funcitoned perfectly aside from the audio jacks being in the wrong order and some not existing) so I was trying to get the other boards bios with edits to configure the audio ic for my boards port layout and it halts after the ram test and goes no farther. I didn't have a programmer to fix it or know about them at the time.. so the board got thrown out :(.
I just came across this a few days ago, should i flash my 3080? Not sure if it's worth the brick
@@MarcoLoves360gamer If you have the same card, the newest VBios from Asus is V5 which works so I think you should be okay. I had attempted the VBios flash when Asus only released V3 which is buggy. I flashed my GB z390 Aorus Master to support Rebar without issues but flashing the Strix to V3 resulted in it not putting out a display on reboot. Thank the Gods that card has dual bios. This allowed me to reboot using the working bios when I flipped the switch. Then I had to 'trick' the graphics card into accepting a modified older bios on the initial bios setting as the newer bios would not install with Asus' program. I had to use a third party install program if I am not mistaken but I got it working in the end. Scary. V5 installs fine though
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That made my night 😂
Man, just a STELLAR break down of each problem, the solution, the problem the solution created, and the inevitable solution to that. Well done!
Thanks so much! That means so much. I'm working on my story telling more.
The $300 version of this with a 3050 6GB would be the MUCH better play for someone actually attempting a build like this. Plug and play pretty much, with the addition of all the Nvidia goodies.
Thats actially the exact route I went for building a secondary pc for running Windows (I wanted to run Linux on my main pc but still needed Windows occasionally and hated rebooting)
I went with an HP EliteDesk 800 G2 SFF, but I don't recommend it because the 3050 intersects the USB 3 header. Getting a right-angle adapter to fit underneath worked, but then it would get this annoying message on boot about the USB header being disconnected because apparently its missing a special HP jumper. Had to solder a small wire to bridge certain pins on the back of the mobo after a ton of RUclips research 😅
Also the thermals are abysmal, so I added a fan secured by ziptie chains to point it at the GPU lol. Computer is also loud because of the proprietary PSU fan, and cant do much about it. Definitely the most sub-optimal way of making a pc work, and the 300 dollar price tag felt a biiiit overpriced for the performance but it performs steadily and runs all the games I need.
I should have just gone with an MT build, I really didn't need the SFF form factor 😅
3050 8g
I still have my 3050 - this is a great idea! I think I'll add it in the next update :)
@@OzTalksHW that’d be great! That + a Mem Upgrade and these could compete at 1440p with the upscaling tech, would likely see a decent uplift in performance and image quality over the S. To me the current sweet spot is a budget 1440p gaming monitor with a ‘1080p’ Nvidia GPU where you can use DLSS Quality/Balanced presets to make up the performance with a much better output and daily usage scenario.
DLSS 3 is a game changer
I need to see a PS5 Pro version. Can we get close to that crazy retail price with same performance in a small form factor PC?
The lower price margin would be so easy since Sony is trying to bend their customers over so hard with the price of the pro.
You shouldn't have trouble beating the price of a PS5, at least.
Probably not tbh. Give it a couple years and yeah for sure.
@@ps3andrhcp700$? You’re kidding right? That’s an easy 6700 XT / 6750 / 6800 build with the beautiful Ryzen 5 5600.
Even better if you go used…
would cook easily at 700$
9:08 " Yeah we did it Joe, we did it.." My name is Joe and it felt really awkward watching and hearing that lmao😂
Looking forward to the results and well done on persevering with the bios 💪🏼
Never thought I'd see you here.
Not really sure why I stumbled across this video but your energy is awesome. You seem like a very kind person, I can't explain it 😂💪
The HP Z2 G4 SFF would be a much better option that would have solved some of your issues here. No need to cut anything to fit any LP GPU, has more NVMe m.2 slots, has a better power supply... and it actually has USB3 ports on the rear. It also costs a similar amount of money. There are several auctions on eBay right now for $67, with i5 9500's and 16GB of RAM. As for the GPU, this only confirms what I've been telling people, the BIOS mod is not worth it to run Arc... just be patient and grab a 1650 in an auction for around $100 - $120 instead.
It sucks that the value proposition of arc is destroyed on OEM pcs like this. Also kind of crazy how expensive these low profile cards are, it almost defeats the whole purpose of going with an OEM pc to save money. I love the idea of a low power, low profile machine, but it sucks that the price to performance is so bad on them. Love your reccomendation of the Z2 G4 though, it's crazy that we can get a 9th gen i5 for so cheap.
@@spoobspoob2270 Absolutely. I don't know why that decision was made, or if they didn't have an option, but they really lost a good portion of the market that would have loved a less expensive option... the OEM gaming PC crowd. It's such a missed opportunity. As for LP cards, I get why they're so expensive... it's just a super niche market. As such, they are just very low production, and thus they tend to be more expensive. I was very surprised that the 4060 LP was the same price as the full height cards. Granted, the 4060 was over priced to begin with.
I really do like the Z2 series. I have a G4 SFF as one of my personal systems and I do like the OEM SFF systems, despite the cost involved. They also have a tower system, which uses the same board, but has room for just about any GPU and comes with a 500 watt or a 650 watt power supply. I really do think people are sleeping on these. I've been buying them and flipping them as gaming PC's and they're a hell of a deal.
@@TheGameBench wow, that power supply is a hell of a steal for the Z2, you could get something like an rx580 and still be fine on wattage! I've always thought that the 580 was a no-go on OEM systems since they never include a good enough PSU, which was a shame since it's 1060 levels of performance for about 1/2 to 2/3 the price.
It's so fun to flip these PCs and configure them, it's satisfying to give people proper performing hardware for cheap instead of whatever crap is being sold on Amazon with anemic specs XD
@@spoobspoob2270 I mean... the 500 watt has an 8-pin and a 6-pin. I've been tossing RTX 3060 12GB in them. All in, they're costing me $400 to $500 to put together with an i7 8700, 32GB of RAM a 1TB NVMe drive and a 1TB HDD. The 500 watt PSU would def be good for more that a 180 watt GPU. Just got one with a i7 9700K and the 650 watt PSU. Thinking I'll throw a 3080 in it.
@@TheGameBench you're right haha, I didn't even think about that 🤣
That's actually a killer system for the money!
In this case I prefer the Xbox, apart from the fact that I think it's a very good console for playing, I don't think a $200 PC would perform the same for me.
I bought a $200 PC and it didn't work out that well for gaming but it did work out well. Now I'm looking for some official keys to be 100% optimal.
Oh well BNH Software helped me with certain keys.
Intel Arc deserves to get loved
No
@@bababsdik you at least could give them a try then
Yes!
I still have my series s, i love the ability to revisit og xbox and 360 titles. Playing gears of war at 60fps is amazing. As for bios flashing, i have that same programming chip, its amazing!
We are so happy that Dante was able to create a plan that you love and has helped your back pain go away! Hopefully all the training translates into faster thumbs on your new 'xbox' 😆Thanks for sharing your fitness journey with trainwell so far!
I'm a console gamer since childhood and dont even have a pc (yet) . But i enjoy this man's passion building PCs.
Might build a pc in the future haha
you can always change the power supply if you get an adapter also but i think it takes the front ports out
Brodi. I love how the audio quality sounds maybe add compression for those peaks that pop out suddenly. Love how simple and straightforward the video is. we want more!
The Xbox Series X 512GB model is officially priced at $299.99 on the Xbox website and $298.99 at Walmart. Therefore, Acearty23 is correct; with an additional $100, one could opt for a better GPU and CPU or a better GPU or CPU and more RAM.
It's not as complicated as the video suggests; the complexity was likely added for entertainment. This is a solid option for $197.
Edit: He had an even larger budget. The Xbox Series S 1TB Carbon Black or the (Robot White releasing on October 15, 2024) is priced at $349.99. With that amount, you could easily build a powerful system.
You can use the keyboard, mouse and browser to do SNS, shopping, watching videos, and you can also use the browser version of Word and PowerPoint. If you don't do deep creative work such as 3D design, composing, or complex video editing, I recommend the Xbox.
I wasn't expecting this. Very interesting.
Such a great calm builder. The comparison to Bob Ross is quite accurate because he gives such a great vibe of a massive hug while he is talking. They share this ability.
It calms down you down as a viewer and makes you feel appreciated.
Great vibe. Keep it up.
The Series S is a dope machine for casual play, I have it hooked up in the bedroom. It's also an emulation beast.
Just came across this channel, and I love the Vox-esque format. The jazz, the subtle sound effects, and on screen diagrams really make this video entertaining. Good stuff, Mr. Oz!
Love how you're taking care of your health and bringing awareness of it to others, back pain is the main issue from sit down jobs, even with a 1500 dollar herman miller if u sit all day you WILL get back pain from not having activity.
As a hopeful up and coming techie. Watching your videos are super fun and I learn something new in every video.
Thank you Oz
Thanks for showcasing the issues with the bios flashing, it's so satisfying to see it finally working!
I still don't understand how there are so many clean refurbished compuers, yes spelled right... compuers available. Everytime I've bought a refurbished computer it has problems even after refurbishment. Your channel is awesome. I love your lectures and demos. Thank you for producing, taping, editing and sharing. Great channel.
A lot of times refurbish just means a wipedown and maybe some minor hardware changes
That model I believe can also have a handle drilled to the top if the battery is on the bottom I did this to mine and I'm able to comfortably pick it up and bring it to friends houses. The hardware upgrades I did was a 4060 for the GPU in a sound card x-fi forte with a pcie extension cable for some odd reason Lenovo decided not to add an extra pcie slot on the bottom so I tucked the pcie extension cable underneath the video card and routed it to the spot where one would be. I also had to make room for that by cutting and using metal snips to cut out of the cage that folds over in that unit. But because of having a GPU in that area I wanted more airflow so I ended up using a Dremel with a cutting blade on it like your friend did in the video and cut out a window on the side panel and used decorative metal sheets from home Depot that had Vents you can duct tape the vents to the panel or use some J-B weld.
Thanks for going through the resizable bar fix. I was not aware of this, and seeing you fix the issues that came up as part of it all the way to a working state is very helpful. Loved this video.
The series s is $300 broski, you still had $100 left in the budget 🔥
It’s $200 used $250 new
@@Oni_CodmThe Xbox Series X 512GB model is officially priced at $299.99 on the Xbox website and $298.99 at Walmart. Therefore, Acearty23 is correct; with an additional $100, one could opt for a better GPU and CPU or a better GPU or CPU and more RAM.
It's not as complicated as the video suggests; the complexity was likely added for entertainment. This is a solid option for $197.
Edit: He had an even larger budget. The Xbox Series S 1TB Carbon Black or the (Robot White releasing on October 15, 2024) is priced at $349.99. With that amount, you could build a powerful system.
Apologies Oni_Codm I didn't mean to cook This much. 😂
@@Oni_CodmDepends on your region where I'm at is 300$ brand new and 250$ second hand u from Canada or something 👀
@@mavrontjonakon7119 im from America. I'm Walmart it's the prices I mentioned
@@Oni_Codm oh damn I should check them out is tax included?
For my series s killer build i bought a 3050 6gb low profile. It's only $170-180. Get a an older sff and slap this in. It should total you $250 or so but it is worth it. A380 is not bad its just if bios have no Rebar than it will limit performance.
I think the best use for a pc like this, is as emulatin center on the tv. Install all Emulators you like, even PS 2 and 3 , Xbox 360 etc and play all the good old games in High res. and you have a little super console.
Your voice is so calming,its so so good to just listen to.
I made a gaming pc out of a dell vostro 3670.. extremely tiny case for the video card I selected for the build. It actually wouldn’t fit in the case like at all. So I took my old rx 580 and shoved it in there. I bent the case to MAKE it fit. Runs exceptionally well with a different psu. Yes, I run my case open at the moment it I have plans to modify the side panel to allow better airflow. The only thing I’d say that I’m not happy with is the fact that the board that comes with the pc doesn’t have another system fan socket. Great pc for what I play and I only spent 150$.
Perfect video rn
I was gonna build a PC but now I am just gonna do this with low profile GPU preferably 3050
PS5 pro just gave you a slam dunk video Oz, should be pretty easy to cook with such an inflated price. Love the vids and your tinkering, keep it up!
PC building man specially on an extreme budget of stressful even when I'm not the one doing it and I'm watching other people do it, but your channel is so peaceful and relaxing like I seriously think you need to change it to peaceful PC or Bob Ross something PC building because bro you take the stress out of it and it's actually very enjoying watching you work on PCs
Watching the video is just amazing. I mean, I love his voice, is so calming, so soothing. The vibe is amazing and the content is awesome. Incredible job 👏👏👏
Major props for all the work you did to flash that BIOS.
Glad you decided to upgrade your body young pup! I look forward to seeing you for many years 😊
The light is back in your eyes too! Good job getting in better shape!
I love your work man, I really enjoyed this video and I'm looking forward to seeing the comparison between this pc and the Series S.
Thanks!
“You smell poor stop trying” I’m crying 😅 great video as always!
You forgot to add that you needed a PhD engineer in order to help you mod the case. Which will be THE hardest part for most of your fanbase. It is a very interesting concept, however the sheer greed of these mainstream companies are having them lockdown PCs that should never need to be.
Man deserves a medal for the hell he put himself through for this video 😂
I still think the series S is a nice plug and play option if one doesn't want to go through the headache you did 😅
Love these SFF workstations. So much more useful and versatile than a console.
Been playing around with computers since 2007 but this is the first time ive heard about Rebar and the fps gainz. Subbed.
I use a HP Z4G4 with a RTX 2060. Cost about $380 to build and I used the 1TB 2.5 inch ssd from my old gaming laptop for the boot drive.
Not the banana for scale 😅
Always 😁
I've been through most of these steps with different systems. At first I was yelling along about ReBar and how OEM systems have pretty much guaranteed BIOS locks in place (checksums) to avoid even booting hardware flashed BIOSes. Until the very end I was yelling "that won't work" at every step.
I'm surprised Lenovo doesn't lock via checksum. For HP and Dell, I can almost guarantee they won't boot with a hardware flashed BIOS because it expects a certain checksum. It'll just give you a beautiful series of beeps.
2:10 bro completely forgot about the RTX 3050 6gb
180$ out of the question
Love this channel!
That's a good video. learning stuff is what I want!!
bought one last year, upgraded to QN8J cpu with 64G ram, served me well as a little promox server, the fan can be noisy in summer though, it never stop yelling when my room temperature got 35℃
Holy shit he can just do a hand stand. Been trying to get back at my health too Oz. Keep up the good work
I'm happy to know that trainwell has helped you with those physical problems, you are really an example to follow, I love your videos and your dedication to them.
this guy is so chill gained a sub
What can you build for PS5 Pro money, Oz? Probably any PC you want 😂
Not quite any PC you want, but you can build a really nice AM4 system
@@drewdane40or even 7500f am5 build
@@arinkarwan5888 I just finished a A620 / 7500f / 4060 build, and even with some pretty good deals I came in at around $850
That is cheaper than a PS5 pro!
People forget that you need to pay for online subscription with consoles, whcih should be included in the calculation.
@@leviathan5207Completely agree. That gets ignored pretty much every time someone does this or discusses console vs PC, but it _has_ to be included in the cost, otherwise you’re being disingenuous.
Calling it now. Series S is going to be great as a plug and play 1080P gaming machine pulling in great performance in a smaller package. The portability can't be beat nor can the power consumption. The PC will keep up in gaming performance and perhaps even exceed depending on game title, and available upscale technologies. The PC will prove to have so much more utility in software availability and video encoding. The PC of these specs would be great for video editing, programming, music production, small time server utility (Plex server/ file or printer server) There's a lot of pros and cons to each, and I think the ThinkCentre was a perfect pick with Arc GPU
Amazing video as always!
your mic and voice is so good its like the perfect asmr
keep it up man
Such great insights and a lot of effort was put into this video, amazing work !
I remember when those Intel graphics cards came out they were too much at the time for such low performance, but I could totally see it being reasonable in a older computer at a hundred bucks.
Sometimes it just doesn't make sense how all of those things can go together and be equivalent to an Xbox... But I'm glad you did it and it gives me confidence in doing it myself
Awesome video Ozi
Well done M$. Even today is hard to beat the economic scale of XSS. Amazing.
Awesome video, always enjoy seeing you do these projects!
You are a legend my friend
office pc always saving the day...
Call me crazy I love the boxy functional and borderline steampunk aesthetic of a cheap office pc.
I just love it.
I believe Bazzite Deck supports Intel Arc + GPU's for Steam Game mode, so you could turn this series S PC project into a Home theater PC with a steam deck like experience, maybe a quick short of installing that OS on this device to test if it works?
I just bought Lenovo V520s with i5 7400 for kinda the same purpose. It cost me £40 so I might splurge and get RTX3050 LP instead to avoid t he headache of flashing bios. As much as I like to tinker it is supposed to be stable media consumption / light gaming PC. I'm gonna most likely drop an i7 and 16GB of ram into it too.
Watching how the ps5 pro has gone down, the Series S has been the standout release of this console Gen, I love my PC but being able to take series S anywhere and play all modern games on it is such a great benefit for the price I got it for, $150
Brilliant video! Great job.
7:30 always wondered if Acer or if any OEM would let consumers edit small things in a BIOs like xmp mode for ram. Learning to build PCs has been freeing
This is a great RUclips channel and i hope it grows into something big
I had picked up a Lenovo Thinkcentre M725s upgraded to a Ryzen 7 Pro 2700, 32GB of RAM and added a RX 6400. I also had to modify that part of the frame forfeiting the potential SATA SSD housing. Decent performance but the GPU is horrible.
The whole situation with the resizable bar sounds like one reason I put off getting a gaming pc. Some random thing you've never heard of before that requires manually flashing your bios chip to get the performance you expected.
This sounds like an issue that not a lot of computers have, but I keep encountering things like this either on the hardware side or while trying desperately to get a game to run. I had horrible performance in one game until I changed the audio output frequency setting on my pc, who would think to try that?
good video but is there any other options for getting the performance of a xbox as a pc just from getting insane deals of ebay or locally? You post accessible hardware that anyone can get but i want to see the performance you can get even if its not available to everyone. :)
This channel is amazing, subscribed
This is why all the family computers i have built are custom and are not modified OEM computers. Always get Bios/upgrade issues with OEMs. Had to physically drill out an m.2 screw to upgrade my wifes nvme on her Lenovo laptop.
idea that popped in my head, installing chimeraOs on the pc would make it (software wise) even more like an equivalent of a console. Great video ^^
Oh wow that's pretty cool, im actually building in an hp sff pc and was thinking about an arc gpu but the resizable bar stopped me from going that route, cool that you got it to work
Question. Can you run Halo The Master Chief collection on this computer? I was looking to do the same thing with an older Dell desktop I've had? Excellent video.
The Thumbs up with sound effect made the video for me. Please do more of that in future videos :)
only just stumbled across your channel. subbed with great interest. i really dig the vibe.
thanks to this video, i enable rebar for my rx 5700, because i didnt know my b460m motherboard had that feature, very thanks!!
Dude you've got a $1m voice there, so soothing!
It's a good thing you don't charge hourly for these videos lol. As always, we surely appreciate ya, great video Oz!
I’m just getting into building pc’s and this was cool to see!
Is it wrong that I like the video before watching? Just feels like a good habit to help the old algorithm for Oz
For about the same price of the intel card, you can get a used gtx 1070 which has twice the performance and 8gb of vram. Only downside is that it consumes twice the amount of power. And maybe that it's used.
I have the same model but just using a g5400, but I'll follow what you did as I'm gonna be using it for school, for some 3D and Mostly Adobe.
Thanks for this Oz!
One thing that's worth mentioning is that the XSS is not actually a £200 console given that it's sold at a loss. So the hardware budget could be more if you were going to sell it or something.
That being said well done.
Also, Microsoft has the benefit of buying in massive bulk. So for parts they are paying a lot less than than the average consumer