Turbo Drift Trike EFI Install Pt 2.
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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We finally finish the electronic fuel injection installation on our 420cc turbocharged drift trike! Unfortunately it was raining when we finished, so we expect to test it in the next video.
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The second I saw Ike in the intro I thought he had a dread lock hat on, it was just the EFI wires.
The map sensor needs to see boost for the computer to give the proper fuel curve
when the video first starts glance at the screen and look away and it looks like ike has dreeds
Same thing, could see Ike with dreads.
same same
Literally went to comment that until I seen yours!
Same thought!
Lol I'm glad I'm not alone 😂
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madness
That would be crazy cause both of them kind of half ass things
fire and explosions and many awesome things
Nah cause then with there both half-assed everything, together they would be full-assed. Then stuff would actually get done..
something would be dismantled and then BEER BAM
That straight section in the charge pipe would be a perfect place to put a tiny intercooler. Like perfect.
thats awesome. a turbocharged efi drift trike. thats something you dont hear of everyday
lol. thats what we were going for
14:17 It's that Boost son! Gotta love it. I had a friend who always said and wanted MORE POWER!!! R.I.P., JP
I've been watching you guys for a while. It's hilarious how guys try to give you advice, I think you'll figure it out. John, it's been cool to see you get better and it's great to see Ike help you. Keep it real, that's why you're a hit. Looking forward to more on the truck build, I've been looking for a pre-65 Chevy to play with, they all rusted away up here in the North. Keep it going!
thanks
I've been watching your videos for the last few months. Ive been getting a kick out of it as I grew up in a small town. I'm an efi tuner now so if you have any random questions feel free to hit me up.
yeeeesss, my life is complete, thank you cars and cameras.
I was wondering when this episode would be on, then boom here you two are, I'm enjoying what you two get up too,
Stobby,
England
lovin the build guys, I'm putting a briggs 8hp with a torque converter on my minibike, then I'm swapping it onto my drift trike once I die on the minibike
It was difficult hearing you, maybe boost voice audio next time? Sweet build.
turning up the volume doesnt work. they talk so quietly then when they use tools and stuff, it is loud.
Finally, a big channel using parts from Ecotrons.
WOW!
VERY INTERESTING!
ENJOYED THIS VIDEO!
ALOT OF WORK WENT INTO THIS BUILD!
NICE TO SEE THE CARB, TURBO, EFI COMBO PAYING OFF! 😎👍
Omg, Ike. I've met your brother! When i got my dirt bike tire put on we went to his shop 5 min from my house! Now i realize why you two looked so alike. Small world.
cool
My phone was playing this in the corner of my eye and I though Ike had dreads
You're almost to 200k subs! So stoked for you guys!
Might be a silly question, but are there any plans to maybe take the trike to a dyno and see what it really makes once everything is buttoned up and the ECU can build itself a tune?
not sure
that was so cool man and i love you guys steppin outside you comfort zones on this one nice work
thanks
In the future, if you have an issue with the alternator, you could remove the pull cord and housing and place a pulley or some sort of drive mechanism from there. Great work guys!
Keep the fuel pick up in the same part of your tank and put a 90, up, somewhere that fits. then you can have three needed things: 1. more fuel, 2. a bit of head on the horizontal part of the tank where the pick up is 3. a simple sight guage along the vertical section.
Nice work so far, the EFI/turbo combination looks like a completely legit setup. Nothing against your know-how, but I thought EFI plus turbo would have been a nightmare to make happen.
Thanks Guys! This has been a great build. Have you thought of valve cover breather to release crank pressure, because the turbo is probably pushing stuff past the rings. ( An oil catch can for the breather mite not be a bad idea too.)
It's that boost son!!!! You guys are nuts. Love it
thanks
+Isaac it'll be fine you should look at my go kart build on garage amino my username is clemonshunter29
I love the 300D in the backround!
my favorite part is the cat walking on the car in background while he was talking about garage amino
Well done gents ! It's coming along nicely all you need now is to make it Choo Choo lol
John's accent goes straight Charleston aristocrat @ 3:47
The IAT sensor is suppose to sit on the hotside of the intake. Since when you compress the air with the turbo, the air will get hot and the iat sensor will get faulty readings since you have it set before the turbo.
When that fired up so readily on efi I was surprised. I was anticipating a headache of further troubleshooting.
Chain saws have a weighted fuel pickup, might work for you. Great Build.
I feel like I've been waiting for this video for so long. FINALLY!
almost looked like you had dreads ike lol when I first turned to watch. one of your guys best builds yet. maybe a reverse trike next +CarsandCameras
thanks
I've seen some cool drift trikes bit I'm sure this one is the most badass
thanks
The dude looks like Fred Durst but sounds like king of the hill. Haha
Im also slapping a Ecotrons EFI on a GX200. But I have a smaller 14cc head, full valvetrain upgrade, 28,5mm intakevalve. ARC billet flywheel and con-rod, flat top piston, mild rise cam. And I could not get the thing started. I think I have the issue of a non-resistance sparkplug and the ARC flywheel has too big of a magnet. Hard to pinpoint exactly, where the Hall sensor decides to fire.
Even Ecotrons people are curious how the ARC racing flywheel should perform. Maybe in the future, they will provide a racing tune. But until then, once I get the EFI running, its back to square one and turbo also on that. Not with a 14cc head of course. I would have to epoxy the head on to keep the compression in...with 1/2" bolts
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Why a non resistance spark plug? You might be better off eliminating emf by using a resistor plug. Even my stock resistor plugs cause my AM radio to go wacky,
DarkLinkAD
Non-resistance plugs are on stock carb motors like the GX200 and Chonda clones. To ensure that the small coil can generate enough spark. It says in the ecotrons install manual to get a resistance plug due to EMI. They are running with the stock plug...because it comes with the motor...
Nick Coppola
And?
priit mölder its only the most relevant subject in this conversation
This is some ridiculous crap and I'm loving it. Found this while looking up some inspiration for doing a turbo CB250RR on an old shifter kart chassis.
Hello from Mooresville.
Oh yeah, taller tank, pick up in the rear and a little fuel cell foam will help a lot with the slosh.
yo @CarsandCameras this video is awesome !!! we want to see more !!!
Did I see another radio flyer?!
Greetings from Germany! I love your vids and you are the reason why I have a mini bike!
You guys should mount a cylindrical fuel tank on the bridge of the handlebars.
Nvm, I hadn't watched the whole video yet
Hey guys, it looks like you're using Ecotrons for EFI. It's what we use in our design competition at my school. If it's like our system, you have to be hooked up to the computer via a laptop and enable the self-learning on the ECU through computer software. Also it'll take a bit for any fuel map you make to engage because the ECU defaults to a startup map until the O2 sensor is fully warmed up.
Cool idea put the turbo on the 670cc
you guys should heat wrap the exhaust to hide the scabby welds
Way cool! I was wondering if on the stand up bar connected to the bars could you put a 1gal oval tube for fuel with pick up in the bottom?
you guys need a mini alternator. commonly used in some fork truck applications. I also used one in a subaru 360 microcar build I did and it was sweet
Been a forklift mechanic since 1994. Never seen a mini alternator on any lift truck. Can you point me to which makes/models use them?
I have a bike project that would benefit from more charging capacity than the Honda GX 340 coil can provide.
fortj3 yep, on RUclips search subaru 360 alternator upgrade. or on ebay search 12v mini alternator.. you'll want something like the nippon-denso mini alternator is what I used on my microcar rebuild. they are used in some small tractors and some forklifts
oh my goodness I thought you had dredlocks in the start of the video hahah !!!!
Thank you Go Powersports!
A vertical cylinder would be better for the tank but place is a problem... or horizontal and tilting it a bit. Always a pain to have air in the pump ^^
Not surprised it's making boost because we all know it'll be fine
love the built man, love the built
for a split second I thought you had dreds
same here (3 years later but)this was my first thought when i saw this video.lol
Hey guys, some tips I picked up when working on EFI for my car(in my case it was MPFI). The regular RPM fluctuations on start are most likely a slow O2 sensor, due to not being hot enough (they alternate lean - rich noticeably slow when cold). Check that all the pins make good contact. Faulty O2 heaters are a real pain, and will cause hesitation and loss of low end power if they're bad. If that's fine, you'll have to make a thermal shield for it. O2s will tend to dissipate heat pretty quick through any metal they contact. Also, given that your exhaust gas flow isn't very much and you've got a header and turbo that are both directly air cooled, you may want to try and give as much heat to the sensor as possible(some insulation will do wonders here). It'd also be a good idea to not drive this baby in the rain, 'cause water may get into the exhaust and end up right where the O2 sits, which makes them bad until they dry.
As far as the IAT sensors goes, you're much better off putting it after the butterfly. You'll get accurate input that includes any heat from the manifold itself(this can be a few degrees).
Great video guys! I wish I could do this where I live :(
You guys remind me so much of my brothers and I working on old junk and running it or trying to get it to run late or not
If the intake gasket goes again, leather makes a great gasket, also, the O2 sensor should be between 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock or condensation will kill it.... Unless you did it for looks. I love this thing, you guys are off the reservation.
lol. thanks. it was for looks
I would have tried to put alternator pulley behind clutch on engine crank shaft. Would alway be charging when engine running. Still good project. 2 thumbs up.
why not just mount the fuel tank pipe vertically with the pickup at the bottom?
well there is one thing you can easily say about this thing, it looks like a freaking beast, good lord.
Yeah baby Food Lion Root Beer, Its awesome. Have not had that in years.
Finally it feels like it been forever.
this is awesome! only thing i would change is that piping for the turbo, id use a pipe bender because we have it in our garage :D
Hey Ike and John! i was wondering if you guys ever thought of doing a show where we ask you guys automotive questions whether it be cars or go karts! because i have lots of trouble finding the right things for my go kart and i am in a slump right now because i am not an expert mechanic like yall are! thanks for the fun and entertaining videos!
-Beau Brooks
thanks ! and we are far from expert lol
Stand your fuel tank vertically so that movement doesn't affect it. Most EFI installs have a swirl pot or some kind of sump so that fuel movement doesn't affect it. Also - I know you guys are on budget, but surely you can afford some small mandrel bends to make decent exhaust and intake pipes.
Can wait for you guys to get it fully tuned and see what kind I power it makes and since you guys got a good alt you could try water methanol injection
should drill a hole at the lowest point in the old fuel tank so if any water ever gets in there it will drain out
the old fuel line is there
+Isaac it'll be fine when you have no videos and almost 1000 subscribers
lol. i havent looked
+Isaac it'll be fine you should look at my go kart build on garageamino my username is clemonshunter29
A gas tank can be any shape. Take some of the large pipe and seal it, now you have a long narrow tank. You could even bend it behind the seat.
put baffles in the fuel tank like sections with holes cut in it to keep fuel from sloshing around
I always look forward to your guy's video's.
thanks
Hey Dudes,,,put a hand cluch on it please it will work much better trust me JW,, Love all yalls vids,, keep up the good work,,
that air temp sensor should be in the charge pipe since it is turbo. ecm will reduce timing at high intake temps and under boost. otherwise it may have detonation.
Road to 200K life!
Love the build!!!
What did the EFI & Harness cost?
I'm thinking of converting my Horizontal Shaft Kohler Magnum M18S Opposed Twin...
How come u guys don't have a fold up table or work bench to set ur karts up on instead of working on the ground all the time? Will save ur back and knees in the long run.
love it. 5 psi of boost straight up. so cool
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you guys seriously need to invest in a tube bender. otherwise keep up the awesome!!
thanks
congrats on 200k subscribers!
thanks
You maybe able to build more boost on it if you had a rear axle brake. An you could use that rear axle brake for more than just building boost it will be cooler drifting too. If you use that rear axle brake to to build boost you'll get a bigger jerk. How it will build more boost is the when your idling it up an have the axle brake on an the turbo is spinning up all that air has no where to go so it builds up cause the motor don't need it so when the disengage the axle brake that air fill go into the motor an bam your gone.
what do you think of making a cone shaped gas tank and mounting the pickup line at the bottom?
next build has to be a shifter kart
you can change out the pulley system on the alt. to make it charge better at lower rpm. Awesome job I like the Drift Trike.
thanks
+Isaac it'll be fine I noticed you guys discussed it in the video after I posted this comment. car audio swap all pulley for more amperage at lower rpm. just be careful to not exceed the rpm limit of the alt. I think uts around 10 or 12k rpm
+Isaac it'll be fine another thing you guys could do and use is a car audio battery. they have a much higher A/HR. you would get longer use and Its a deep cycle battery so it can be drained and charged more without damaging the batt.
That black box I think is the cdi wich could govern the motor I belive they make performance modles
Love the build
What battery do you guys use? I recently got a 5.5hp electric start but no battery and it bums me out.
Lol John looks like a lil kid on that thing in the beginning
so i know a bit about turbos and stuff and was wondering if 4-5 psi that you were getting is alot for that size motor. cars without a tune can get around 10-15 psi. and a 300zx tt gets only around 9. so are you gonna be getting more boost out of it or is 4-5 psi about good?
i plan on more boost
Congratulations on 200k :D
thanks
What app are y’all using on the phones for speedometer? How are you overlaying it on your videos?
with your comment on you being sunburned. did you white balance the camera?
The little black box thing at 3:58 is a CDI box, for ignition and the governor.
make sure your fuel pump is below the tank i just installed the same kit on a gy6 scooter
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what turbo did u guys use. I want to turbo my gy6 scooter I got really cheep and am interested in using the efi kit u did on the predator 420. Where can I get the turbo and efi kit and how much.
Hope you guys are running premium fuel as well. Doubt that efi system has a knock sensor lol
You should make a bigger gas tank with some sorta windage tray, kinda like how oil pans have
+carsandcameras I have a question for you well I need some advice.Here the story goes about 3/4 days ago I bought a racing kart frame without knowing anything about it,I actually found the name out,I go to the karting website and the parts are super expensive,so my question is are petrol go karts universal so like you can use any petrol go kart part on the kart within reason? also you know of any cheap places to get cheap parts as I'm 18 and I'm from uk.thanks ps Curtis
I really wish y'all were located down south in Tennessee. I would love to do some builds with you guys. It would be my dream come true
aw man sick vids guys the guy in the white looks like a really talented tech also!!
thanks
2 things that would be sooo cool!!
1 being maybe turning up boost if you can
2 being anti-lag maybe........
alternator, why not fip it round use drive from the pull start nut to shaft drive the alternator off the engine crank?
u guys are reallyamazing and need to keep posting
At our school we did a turbocharged and efi on Briggs local 206, it was putting out 7 pounds
what kind of torque converter did you use for the v twin gokart?