How to Escape the Cult of Self-Affirmation, with Allie Beth Stuckey
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- In this podcast, Allie Beth Stuckey joins us to analyze the popular ideas promoted by self-help gurus like Jen Hatmaker, Glennon Doyle, Rachel Hollis, and Brene Brown. We discuss questions like, am I enough? Do I have to love myself before I can love others? What is the cult of self-affirmation? What is "meology," and why is it such a popular way to interpret the Bible? Allie also tells us about her new book, You're Not Enough and That's Okay, and its message that runs contrary to some of these other popular teachers.
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"Humility isn't thinking less of yourself; it's thinking of yourself less." C.S. Lewis (I think)
What a blessing this conversation is to my heart ❤
@Seaside Lover Thank you!
Pretty sure it's Lewis, or at least a paraphrase of Lewis.
@Seaside Lover No, it is CS Lewis from Mere Christianity. Rick Warren may have been borrowing that Quote.
I think Tim Keller says something similar too!
As a woman who is disabled, I can say that we are neither spiritually nor physically enough. I cannot go for a run and get energized and can only walk with great pain. I cannot even starve my obese body into submission. I'm empowered by the Holy Spirit to exercise the gifts he's given me to be transformed into the image of Christ who had no comeliness to recommend him. Christ is all we have and he is all we need. Some may be called to sacrifice their bodies for the sake of Christ.
The problem in self loathing is not that we hate who we are. It is a coveting problem. We hate who we are not. We hate ourselves because we are comparing ourselves to the idol we've constructed. We cannot even create idols perfectly. In self loathing we are setting a standard that is in opposition to God. We are not loving God with our entire heart, soul, mind and strength. If we were, we would not construct unrealistic idols to strive toward.
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oh... you might have just changed my life. i’m saving this comment. wow.
That's incredible, I've never thought of it that way. God bless!
I'm in my early 30s and have been disabled due to some very severe chronic illnesses since I was 13. Before that point, I was very strong, very smart, very ambitious, and only moderately focused on my relationship with God. I do believe I was saved, but I was running as fast as I could down the road of "you can be whatever you want to be and achieve anything if you work hard and stay in school," which is certainly a self-idolizing position and not at all a biblical promise!
The first several years where I had to begin schooling myself between doctor visits, and having all of my passions and abilities stripped away were very confusing and frankly angering because I felt like God wasn't rewarding me for the "things" I had done for Him all those previous years despite my very busy schedule. That just makes me cringe now!
It was amazing (I admitted grumpily to myself even then) to see Him allow progressing illness to cut away my self-congratulating idols with absolute surgical precision. It felt like there was very little leftover in life except my basic physical needs, a minimum of ability to attend church and function somewhat in the church body, my loving family, and me and God. Although that list contains heaps more blessings than many people ever experience, to me, it was a brutal desert of deprivation.
Praise God that He took me just to the edge of myself and utter despair and didn't let me fall off the edge. While my physical pain continues to increase (and indeed is why I'm currently awake), I now see this illness as an incredible gift.
God loved me enough to not only save me when I was His enemy, but continues to perfect me, prideful girl that I have been and no doubt still am in some ways!
The humbling God bestows on us can be really uncomfortable, but how precious to look at my relationship with Him now-knowing Him better, appreciating Him more, and being much more enthusiastically focused on glorifying Him in whatever way possible-and know that He chose to teach me some humility and draw me close rather than letting me run as far away as I could.
When difficulties and trials fall upon me now, I try to pray immediately for help and guidance, and to be patient in the situation knowing that I may have a chance to look back at these moments in the future and see in hindsight what beautiful things God will teach me about Himself through this.
So from another girl who DEFINITELY isn't enough, to all of you others out there, please identify difficulties as chances to grow closer to God and embrace them as such rather than spending years and years throwing temper tantrums unaware that it may be a gift in subtle wrapping paper! Praying for you all in your personal trials tonight.
Such wisdom. Thank you Robin ❤️
As a young girl (16), growing up in this culture I bought the whole, "I am enough" narrative until I hit rock bottom 2 years ago in high school (I'm Jamaican so the school system is a bit different) then I realized I COULD NOT do it all, I went in a bit of a depressive season and I called out for God to save me because I hated how I felt about my self and life and he took my hand. I'm still recovering from that severe burnout but I'm much better now realizing that I shouldn't feel the burdens of trying to "perfect my life". This is my first time watching this channel and it was truly insightful and Allie Beth Stuckey was amazing, very eloquent.
This is really interesting .. I think I'm beginning to see that what y'all are talking about is what I would call self improvement culture or self esteem culture. I'm all for saying you are enough but I'm not for the types of books that Allie references. What you and she have both described are the behaviours I did *before* I found self love or perhaps self acceptance is a better word. It sounds like we have all had a similar experience but are calling it different things.
I agree, when I thought I had to be perfect it was awful, but thats not self love. Self love or self acceptance is accepting that you are ok just how you are right now, that you are worthy of being loved just how you are right now. That must be true because otherwise we'd have a works based faith where you have to be a certain way before you could get God's love. But God loves all freely just as we are, and he shows that in Christ.
It's a pity because I think this message actually is important but Allie is sort of alienating people like me who put different words on it than she does because she's so angry and strident in how she presents it. I find her hard to listen to because of it even though on this issues I *think* we mostly agree.
Please know honey that you are enough. Don't let others pull you down. YOU ARE ENOUGH.
Being told that you aren't good enough is a tactic that is used in abusive relationships.
I know things can seem difficult right now, but find a church that will lift you up, not pull you down. You are enough and you deserve respect and love. YOU ARE ENOUGH.
beautiful testimony Pascal!🤍 Jesus is enough ✞
When God helps us realize we aren’t enough is when we can finally humbly come to Him to ask and receive the help that we so desperately need 💕
AMEN!!!
I am not enough and that is such a relief 😅 having to do it alone is such a burden
You are enough to Jesus. You don't need to strive or 'do good' or 'do anything' to be enough to Jesus... It is whilst you are a sinner he died for you. Jesus loves you as you are
exactly my thoughts. having to be enough would be so exhaustig and draining
Jesus says his yoke is easy and his burden light.
@@theliberatedplanet Eckart Tolle's gnostiscism is incompatible with Judeo-Christianity
@@velociray which is why I came back to delete my comment because most people can't see beneath the surface they can only read the labels. I am a born again Christian and I found his work quite compatible and very comparable to my own experience. And I deleted my comment because I didn't want to make someone feel less than because they couldn't do the work we are called to do as Christians. I don't know very many Christians who truly know the Mysteries of Christ. And Christ and the born-again experience is about love it is an explosion of love and God forbid people should feel love that would be too much feeling lol so let's just all beat the crap out of each other with words and tell each other we're not enough LOL
At the 28:00 mark, my mind was blown with the realization that right now there’s almost a war going on between two religions, Christianity and the cult of self. One follows the teachings and gospel of Christ, while the other worships the god of self. What a GREAT conversation today!
I started watching this channel today, and so far I’m impressed. ❤️
“it takes your eyes off of yourself”
THAT’S IT. she said it. that’s it.
Wow I was ready to disagree, but listening I completely agree! We cannot rely on ourselves for a pure confidence! It's all anchored from our lord and savior hallelujah
I was feeling the same..but she is speaking truth. Glad I listened.
My girls were given a children’s book called “I Am Enough.” When we received it, I was like, nope, won’t be reading this one. The pictures in it are beautiful, but telling my girls they are enough is a lie! Thanks so much for what you do, both of you!
But but..feelings..all the feels!!
You didnt consider that did you🤓
Could also read it and explain why it's not truthful! Teach them about it now before it gets to them elsewhere. Love how Mama Bear Apologetics talks about doing that.
Great message for your kids! 🤦
My parents did the same to me. I realized how toxic it was and grew up.
That you wouldn't let her read it blows my mind but that so many celebrate that choice is even more mind boggling. Did you even read it or are you afraid it may show you that things you hold so dear may in fact be wrong. I will tell you right now that as a father of two daughters, I am now going to actively seek out this book...do you happen to have the author?
Mike Koolen Of course I read it. It’s a picture book. 🤦🏼♀️ It’s a very nice book, and actually, there’s nothing inherently wrong with the rest of it, but, in Christ, no one is enough, and neither are my girls. I won’t point them to themselves for answers when our selves are the problem.
Wow! This was so great. Even as a guy, I see tons of those toxic self-love, self-hero messages everywhere. Allie's story about wanting to be "enough" for another fallible human is so relatable.
Really enjoyed this one. God bless
My two favorite ladies!!
Mine three!!!
Mine four!!:D
Mine Five! Listen to them both ALL the time
Same! That was my first thought!
Yes!! 🙋🏼♀️
I’m a teacher who used to use personality tests, even got personally involved with Meyers Briggs. Every time I would teach it, though, I would get a check in my spirit and a sinking feeling in my gut. This year, after introducing it, I decided to scrap it, and removed it from my students’ curriculum, and I’ve had such a peace about it. There is something truly wrong with being so self-focused and letting man-made measures help us justify our sin. We find our identity in Christ!
AMEN!!!
I got into the Myers-Briggs test again. I had an unsettling feeling in my spirit, and I had the thought, "What makes this any different from astrology?" I'm slowing weaning away from it. Hopefully, I don't get involved in it again.
@@daniellewardd I understand completely. I still find myself analyzing people according to MBTI and have to forcibly stop myself. Praying for you.
I never used Meyers Briggs analysis to justify ANY sin but that does not mean it does not accurately describe ones personality and that is certainly the case for me. I took that test both informally and professionally about 6 times over the course of 20 years and all but one of the times I tested as an ISTJ. The only one time that might or might not be the exception is the very 1st time I took it at age 18 and never bothered to review the results.
@@daniellewardd Not even remotely close.
Beautiful. As a Jew, we neither subscribe to the idea that deep down we are 'good', nor do we accept that our innermost being is 'evil' or a sinner. Rather, we recognize that both a good inclination and evil inclination exist in each of us, and we need discipline to make good choices. The evil inclination is more of a drive for pleasure and security that, if left unchecked, can lead to evil actions, such as in Allie's personal choices. We would say, turn your eyes to Torah, to the word, for the information and discipline to make loving choices that serve G-d. Jewish interpretation of the events in the Garden also do not revolve around evil, but rather wisdom and His design for us to make choices. I learn a lot from devout Christians' discussions and appreciate these two women. Thank you for the opportunity to reflect!
The blible is not about us. Great reflexion
Lo I come in the volume of the book. It is written of me to do thy will O God... Hebrews 10:7
What could be better than a Sunday evening viewing of Allie and Alisa helping women to see the truth of the Bible and destroying the lies of the culture? Thank you!
I agree 💯 Dana 😊👍
The garden, the serpent, the fruit of the tree... the lie “you will be like God” ... Eve “the serpent deceived me...”
Yes the false religions & even false "christian" churches believe we can achieve to be like God bc of the false little god doctrine of Jesus being only a man until he reached godhood. Joyce Myers, Ken Copeland, Steven Furdick just to name a few examples
@@kaleesiking239 "Jesus being a man until he reached godhood." I think you better do more accurate research. Thats not what they believe.
God lied, the serpent told the truth. And God admitted it. Read Genesis more closely. Once you get it you'll never need to believe in the Fall again. God didn't toss the Couple out for disobedience but for waking up. Lest they take from the Tree of Life and live forever, thus becoming his true equals. "Behold, the man has become as one of us, knowing good and evil (that is, free will).' Which is exactly what the serpent said would happen.
Wow. Just Wow. I have never heard the gospel shared as Allie did. So much to think about now: self-loathing, loving my neighbor as myself, seeking identity in being accepted and loved by others... she touched on every single point of my cry to God of, "Why aren't YOU enough for me? How can I ever love others if I can't even love myself?" And so simply, powerfully, effectively (Lord willing), God through Allie has brought light to my eyes. I do pray that the truth that Christ is enough for all my sin and weakness and insufficiency, will penetrate into this heart I feel is so cold, yet desirous of the "better part", and that God will answer my prayer that HE will be enough for me and that I will love him sincerely and without hypocrisy.
I feel so much for her when hearing her retell the desire she felt to fit into the "Party college lifestyle." It is a trap and so many young people who know the Truth of Christ have gotten swept up in the spirits of the age. Thank GOD, she was able to safely get out of that hole. The more we give in to unGodly ways the more we feel isolated, lonely, fearful etc. She is so right, we are not enough on our own and we don't need to be!
I needed to hear this podcast
We were always meant to be dependent. How can God’s glory shine if all we do is step in front of him and do our own thing without giving him credit for what we have?
This a great interview you have there. More people should listen!
We are indeed perfect as a seed that God put into this world but we are spoiling the fruit as we grow up by clinging to the world...
Stuckey is a gifted teacher and preacher.
Oh, the new-mom self-pity thing... All that talk never sat well with me, but I couldn't put my finger on the issue. Thanks for calling it out!
So blessed to see two Godly women speaking truth, and be examples for other women.
That lead in by Allie was fantastic, marvelous insightful truth. The perfect Allie lol! So good to hear this from great Christian women, I will take all this onboard from the male perspective.
Thank you both.
As a man..I can tell you..I am not enough either!
What nonsense
One of the best podcasts I've ever heard. Sooo necessary. Praise the Lord. I need you ! I worship you .
Lol. Best hilarious comment of the day.
I have for years, studied Brené Brown's shame resilience model and research. To the point where I am certified in her work and have shared it with my clients for about 9 years now (I'm a counsellor). I am waking up to the lie of being enough. I'm waking up to the lies of so many of today's popular voices. I'd love to chat with you more about this Alisa!
Amen! Her writings have been promoted everywhere, on social media etc... almost pushed down my throat. So naturally I already felt very hesitant about her. It is so liberating to realise that 'no, I am not the source of my own happiness and fulfilment, I need the Lord for a fulfilling life'... That is the message I learned when I came to Jesus, but later on, I stumbled upon that 'counceling / self-help group'... it is just so tedious.
But it seems to me you're just substituting one snake oil for another. Agreed, "You are enough", isn't enough and doesn't solve real problems. But in my experience, neither does religion.
@@michaelbedsole970 When I was young, my experience of religion wasn't great. But today, I've encountered the love of God and it's changed me, even transformed me, in a way that nothing of this world could (and I think I tried almost everything).
You're allowed to believe that religion is snake oil, and I suppose some religions are. Being a Christian, although not always the easiest path, isn't snake oil, it's been my path to freedom, joy, and a full life.
@@byrdiefunk It's all snake oil to me. Never seen or received any benefit from any of it.
Wow. This definitely convicted me. Evidence of the Holy Spirit within you two!
God bless you ladies!!
Realizing you are not enough is freeing yourself from so many sins. Praise God for that message.
So encouraging. My story is similar to Allie's. Self righteous good girl - caught in a dark cycle of sin - hitting a breaking point where I finally went from "knowledge and belief" in the Gospel to "understanding and trusting" in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Full surrender. I am not enough, but HE is.
Every woman in our culture, and certainly in Western Christianity, needs to hear this message. So well said & written, thank you ladies!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
10000% on point. I suffered a lot in my life before I met Jesus. If I could go back, life today would be different.
I remember shipping at Target with friends in college, and seeing shirts or something about I Love Me or something similar. I remember thinking at the time, "This will backfire spectacularly." And it has. I swear, I know narcissism has existed for all time, but it's so much more obvious as I get older. It's living yourself to the detriment of others. You can't continue to lift people up by pushing yourself in front of them.
I could've listened to much more of this conversation. So good.
What a unique way of expressing this! I really like this.i just want to add my thoughts. From my perspective, I think there is truth in both perspectives. We are not enough and it is important to remember that we need to rely on the Savior every day and be humble, not look to others to for a gage on if we are enough, because the the world is changing. But on the other hand, I also think that it is true that we are enough for God. What I mean by that is that we are enough for God's love, we are enough for the atonement of Jesus Christ. We don't have to earn it. We are enough because we are our Heavenly Father's children. So we are not enough and never will be to change without the Savior, but we are completely enough for God's love.
Thankyou for making this distinction. I think when I hear 'you are enough' I hear the second meaning and that's why this pushback against the idea that 'you are enough' is so confusing to me
We, on our own are not enough. Only WITH God do we become enough. If we were enough simply because we are Gods children then Jesus didn't need to come and die to save us.
@@saskiascott8181 same here! I commented this podcast to my sister and she was like "but... we are enough for God's love and worthy of it..."
@@CamiDiscerns but God created us in his image which means each human being has an inherent worthiness. I like the language of "loved". The truth about us all is that we are and always have been loved. We are enough for God's love.
@@saskiascott8181 Yes but sin crept in. We are born in sin since the fall of man after the fall of Lucifer. Our hearts are deceptively wicked as written in Mark 7:21 and Jeremiah 17:9. We are inherently sinful and wretched apart from the sanctification of Christ. Through Faith in Christ, we are made Spiritually perfect, whole, and worthy. In Him, we don't even have to worry about not being worthy because we know, with confident faith that He is.
Thankyou for your boldness to stand up and share your story. We are all born with a bad heart and have to be made new by the Holy Spirit!
Wow. This was such a refreshing word when I felt as though no one else could understand my passion for this very topic- I felt like I was going crazy for a couple months now with seeing Christians post about self love, self care, making sure to carve out your “me time” or your going to burn out! It’s like.... so when you sleep in and lost your “me time”, how’s the rest of your day going to follow? Blame yourself, blame your kids, blame your husband etc. Tell them all “too bad! It’s now time for “me time”. Or have the added pressure that your going to burn out if you don’t? Augh. The pressure that it! This was great thank you, I’m reading this book ASAP
Allie Beth Stuckey, our stories and mindsets are sooo similar, let's be friends lol! But I agree; self-love will only make you more insecure while self-denial will help us to be able to heal IN CHRIST
Before I had children I was so selfish. After I had children I became selfless without even realizing it, it was so natural. I often tell people it's the hardest and most rewarding job that you never get paid money for.
The crossover WE need! ❤️❤️❤️
Allie's message is right there.
I struggle with expectations to look good, be powerful, and be self-sufficient, but learning how to change my thinking to dependency on God follows, "Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will." (Romans 12:2).
Two of my favorite people sharing ideas! I love it!!
Allie and Alisa are truly answers to my prayers!! So very thankful for you both!! 🙌🏼😍
It really takes more integrity to admit one's own deficiencies and to say that 'yes, I am not sufficient yet in this an this area, and God has more for me'. also, there are areas where He has done enough work in me through His grace and I was able to bring glory to Him in those situations. Both are true and His grace is sufficient in both scenarios. It was well said that we should not be the source of our own fulfilment. Yay!!
I love it when she talks about random strangers saying you’re a good mom. I have a 6 and a 5 year old, and for the past 6 years that’s all I heard while I wanted to know what was the right thing to do. Saying you’re a good mom to someone you hardly know doesn’t help anyone.
As a "Progressive" Christian blogger on Patheos who also runs a popular podcast, I would LOVE to have a dialog about some misunderstandings you have about progressive Christianity if you're interested.
That is something I would absolutely tune in to!
Have you read her book? She's quite well versed in it. Progressive Christianity is actually a very broad brush with few sacred cows. So, maybe you don't fall into all of the specifics she brings up, but doesn't mean it isn't a "progressive Christian" thing.
That being said would love to listen to a dialogue! Always great to hear more people at the table.
@@jennifergeorge7280 based on this video she misrepresents progressive perspectives on the Bible, for example. I would love to have a friendly dialog to explain these things.
@@KeithGiles
Thank you for this discussion, ladies. I know this topic wasn't particularly targeted towards men, but it was definitely a blessing to me as well.
You have reminded us that we are in this American cultural landscape but we should not be of it. Much appreciated 🙏🏿
I love this discussion! Been say this for years. This is the first time I see someone having the same convictions
Such a good episode. I have Allie's book and I'm in the process of reading it.
I could listen to you ladies talk for hours. Tha KS so much for a great conversation. This is a powerful tool for rescuing those still in delusion.
Yes!! I fell down a rabbit hole of New Age spirituality. Rev. Ike Turner’s preaching on we are gods. You can manifest this and that. It came from my leaning on a need for financial stability and the job I have. It left me with such a VOID I realized that it wasn’t right because it left me tirelessly searching to no end. Jesus puts a cease to that searching. I will get this book for my best friends because I think they are going through this. One reads books like “You’re a Bad A**” So, For Christmas I will get her book for her ❤️
What an amazing conversation God bless you sisters.
10 years trying to believe “I am enough.” I did all of the personality tests and read all the books and spent thousands of dollars on life coaches. Yet I was still angry, depressed, anxious, lost…
Jesus Christ is now my sufficiency, and now I carry the fruits of the Spirit. Praise the Lord for His holiness, goodness, grace, and power.
Anyone who's been through a 12-step program or has a friend or family member who has, is aware of the principle that "we are not enough", that we are not self-sufficient, that we cannot overcome our issues by ourselves but with the grace and mercy of a loving God and Father who lets us go through terrible experiences because we tend to get over confident that we can do it all.
Love love love her! Thanks so much for having Allie on, Alisa! ❤️
I am so happy to find a channel that I agree with as far as where we get our identity.
This is great stuff. Calling out the "self love" movement that looks & sounds like pure narcissism. My confidence is in Elohim & never in myself.
Absolutely one of the BEST podcast episodes I've watched!!
I don't know HOW this came across my youtube feed. But I sure do thank God for finding you two wonderful women! Wow... this was some powerfully sublime stuff. Thank you!!! You have a new subscriber today as well.
@@pastordoughwilson2029 is this you or a Nigerian scam??
Love when you have Allie on! Such a great dynamic & so many truth bombs.
Excellent wisdom. I praise God there are women like you speaking Truth to the next generation. May God bless you both as you serve Him with your lives.
Wow ladies. Just wow. Breath of fresh air. May the good Lord continue to echo your voices to the nation's. Thank God for you. Much love from ,🇨🇦
Praise God, I needed this. I want all women to see this!
Thank you so much for this word. As a young woman in college, this is something I struggle w very much. I’m always so tempted to make everything about myself. This is something many of us will take years to unlearn and to learn to trust in Jesus instead.
This was fantastic, thank y’all for the work you both do to teach and lead biblically!
Excellent podcast! Thank-you both. I took away that woman are to care about themselves but not self-indulge in excess. But not all women were taught to care for themselves. Woman were always to be the server and man the leader and provider for the woman in order for her to care for her house hold and children. My mother loved that role and honored it. She was never
looking for her rights. It was and still is an honor to be a mother and a wife. Parents are the shepherds to the children to lead, guide and love. I believe a functional and loving household should be expected by all members of the household, parents and children
alike. It is a group effort and team work, along with individual contributions.
When a woman has godly character, many times she is shamed for it and said she is a good two shoes. Sometimes men do not always know how to handle a good woman. They never really experience d what goodness was from their mother. Obedience and love is greatness in God's eyes.
Just started listening to you Alisa, looking forward to more. Been listening to Ally for a cpl months, just downloaded her book on audible.
Thanks ladies!!!
This is the best thing I've heard in a long time! Allie Beth has so much wisdom and insight. I'm so grateful the Lord moved her to share this insight with us, and thank you, Alisa, for having her on. I got so much out of this. Thank you, Father God, for using these ladies to guide us in keeping our paths straight.
Thank you ladies! So well said; we need to deny self, take up our cross, and follow Him. Through that alone will we find rest.
Excellent topic!! Thank you!
Such a delightful conversation. Great to share with our daughter's, friends, family members and all small groups. The empowerment which comes from The word of God. Thank you, and may God continue blessing each beloved.
Thanks for sharing this! Very insightful. Not sure if dads were supposed to find so much value in this, but goodness, I got wheel barrels worth of help from this!
I had a similar thought while listening to Allie Beth. Men of all ages should at least hear this video. They may not necessarily agree with, or even understand what is being said, but, in my opinion, getting "the Spiritual gears turning" with God's unselfish Agape love in mind has to be beneficial.
Men can be just as self absorbed as women. It's a human problem, not a woman problem.
We are enough in Christ. Love God, love everyone as yourself, meditate on the promises of God help others as yourself. The enemy is always stealing from God’s word, we’re to renew our minds with the word of God in Christ’s strength, seek to help others to glorify our Heavenly Father.
Romans 12:2🕊
Isaiah 12:2🛡
Hebrews 12:2📖
Love this episode! Such a truthful message for which I am so incredibly grateful!! Thank you!
I love you both, this was a great discussion. I have no idea why anyone would dislike this video. Keep up the great work! Still trying to convince my wife to subscribe to you both.
Women in theology! 💖
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. (1 Timothy 2:12)
@@iwasjustintrance yes, you also shall not kill and and shall not bear false witness etc... Justin you're unnecessarily drawing attention to complementarianism. These woman are not exercising authority over men, nor in this video nor the teaching.
@@dovybar did you just compare this verse to the ten commandments?
Also, do any Christian men watch this video? Then they are teaching men doctrine.
This is so good. I believe only with His grace we are enough. (But we are called to be greater through Him, to not to be complacent and to always grow through him
Alisa thank you for this. What a blessing you are! I enjoy your videos so much and they have helped me to view these types of books ans some others through a more discerning Christian lense.
This is something I've been sharing with people for quite some time. Thank you for sharing
Excellent word Allie Beth!
Again, Alisa, God is making an awesome impact through you and your guests. Keep going, sister! I can relate to many of the things Allie was saying. Rejection is something, I think, most of us have in common. All around great discussion. Teen girls, and even boys, need to hear this. The youth are in a stronger hold of the enemy than the older are.
I often thought that I was not enough for God to love me. In this case, feeling like "not enough" is not a good thing. Through Christ, I am enough.
Such truth! We need this more than ever in a world where truth is difficult to find!
I just discovered your podcast and I am addicted. I am an IFBaptist and I am hooked on your biblical explanations and reasoning. Just started listening to this episode. Can't wait to see what its all about. 😊💖
I think God is revealing something to us because I was just thinking about this the past week. Self-help and self-affirmation has sneakily infiltrated the church (because we live in a society that’s all about building ourselves) and especially in women in the church. Every woman’s conference I’ve been to is basically about building us up and giving us confidence and it’s like... who is teaching these women the word of God?? Who is telling them to go preach the gospel?? Have we been dumbed down and reduced to these insecure creatures who aren’t equipped to do the work of Christ? It’s nonsense. There’s bigger fish to fry than to just feel good enough about yourself. People are going to hell! We need to do what God is telling us! Excellent video ladies! Finally some truth!
Such a good discussion. So many negative consequences including marriages that are falling apart..
I love Alisa. I love Allie. Put them together and Whattttt! "My emotions change on a dime and I need a steadfast confidence." Profound!!!!!!! 😍😍
OHH Great message. In the Church I go, some preachers teach this Empowering message, they said that "In Christ" we are completed, perfect, sinless, and We can do everything we want to....
What a great testimony by Allie. God bless.
This is SOOOO right on! TRUTH!
Thank you ladies for the courage and love of the truth for exposing this lie! Thank you! I praise God for women such as you. ❤️
Wow that was a great conversation from two godly people. So blessed to have them in the Body of Christ. 😀
There are so many aspects of Allie's testimony that parallel my own, and I believe that of many other Millennial women. I grew up as the eldest of three, with Christian parents. I accepted the Lord as my savior at age six, and it was genuine. But there were a few things growing up, one of which was fuzzy theology. (My dad leaned Reformed while mom had grown up in more of a Charismatic background.) Many of the influences that Allie mentioned reading were also ones I looked to, which eventually led me to drifting into a morally relative Emergent church in college. (More on that later.)
The other aspect is that I was under a lot of pressure to be a straight-A student, good at sports, and pursue a lofty college degree. I was second in my class behind the principal's son, and was a model Christian at the private school I attended. I had acceptances to some very good colleges. But unfortunately, I'd grown up with some jaw problems stemming from a baseball hitting my face and some other issues. It turned out I needed an upper jaw surgery at 19, and then another double jaw surgery at 21. So it made more sense to stay in-state. I ended up going to community college and working full-time for a couple years, then moving to Oregon State University for another three years.
I was burdened by the disappointment of not getting to attend the private college of my dreams, as well as deep rejection I'd faced from a guy in high school. Not to mention years of being made fun of for being smart and for my appearance. (I was attractive looking back on it now, but genuinely hated how I looked my entire childhood.)
So after high school, I literally gave up on trying to please my parents, myself, and everyone around me. I didn't actually take up drinking until I was 21 and at the University, as I was still a very law-abiding person in most areas. But I had a major dating addiction that fueled my feeble self-esteem. Things only got worse once I left my hometown and went to University. I still went to church, but it was the hipster Emergent-type church, and I had no accountability. Again, while I wasn't the worst drinker, I was still indulging in activities that I justified in my mind, but that weren't right for a Christian.
I was also hardcore Conservative growing up, but in college, adopted Democrat leanings and voted for Hillary in the 2008 primaries. Even saw Bill speak in person. *cringe* I had close friends who also were very liberal and loose religiously, or outright atheist. My justification was that the Christians in youth groups growing up, as well as the college groups, were all cliquey and didn't accept or understand me, which was largely true, but still wasn't an excuse to go the direction I did.
Like Allie, I continued in my sin even after exiting college and moving to Portland for internships. But I eventually hit a very dark rock bottom. Fortunately, the Lord brought accountability sisters, and I repented. I eventually met the man who is now my husband of almost ten years.
I'll skip past the details of the last ten years, other than to say it's been a gradual and gracious process of sanctification. ❤ I now have wonderful Christian friends who are equally unique.
Excited to listen today. When the “you’re enough” ~ “I’m enough”
I kept saying only because Jesus. Only when seeking God daily. It’s not been well received. Thanks!!
God Bless!
Wow! What an incredible conversation. So happy to hear a clear and common sense Biblical response to some of the new age teachings. Thank you!
Proof of what I’ve been saying time and time again: Exegesis bears the fruit of sound doctrine; eisegesis bears the fruit of heresy. Until more people begin to humble themselves to the Word as they read, we will continue to have a myriad of cultural problems.
Wow, this is such a powerful message, much needed in this time and age. Thank you both for talking about this.
So thankful for this discussion. So helpful and insighful. Thank you for putting this content out!! 🙏🏽
Loved both of your books!!
Great conversation!
thank you so much, ladies, this really helped me with untangling the new age thought patterns I succumbed to.
Excellent message and so needed in the current world. Thanks so much for sharing 😊
Thank you so much for this conversation!
Im not sure how I got here. I am however quite pleased that I did. Such a good conversation and a beautiful execution for anyone to understand. Keep up the work.