I've read all of your comments so far people, and some are truly fantastic (I'm lookin' at you guys, writing five paragraph essays)! I'll cover them all in about two weeks time, so that late arrivals can fill in their own notes!
I'll be covering the characters in the main installments. If I feel they need their own video, maybe, but I'll be trying to cover them 100% in the core series.
i rate this video 0/10. Faunus discussion didn't have enough Friends. danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2884922?tags=kemono_friends danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2810553?tags=ezo_red_fox_%28kemono_friends%29+silver_fox_%28kemono_friends%29
I get that Rooster Teeth is mainly focused on comedy, but still, they could've hired a few seasoned D&D Dungeon Masters to form an expertly crafted Magical-Social-Political landscape....we DMs do it all the time.....for FUN.
Kye Dysarthria no, but your average DM would have much more experience with world building than the writers of RWBY, and could have given advice on how to do that in their story (and let’s be honest, considering what the world building in the show is like, even an average DM could have whipped up smg better than what we have now)
@@fightingmedialounge519 Yes but a lot of aspiring writes at least the ones I have seen do dnd. Its because dnd has a lot of moments where if just a tiny bit of wording was done wrong people might not be invested. Its good improv training and could be a good tool when you run out of ideas, it can also help you patch loopholes considering loopholes are always considered in a dnd game. The dungeon master has to adapt to loopholes quickly and neatly so that the whole plot doesnt run off the rails. While not all dungeon masters want or are good writers a lot of writers seem to congest into dnd. Also maybe the writers in RWBY could benefit in just sitting down, laying out all the characters's personalities and all of the world building. And just spend a good portion of a day just repatching loopholes(I think, unless they already have meetups like that).
Personally, since slaves would attract Grim with their negativity and slavery doesn't really make sense when you've got robots as sophisticated as we've seen Atlas has, I like to think that the SDC's 'controversial labor forces' is actually them automating their operations leading to widespread unemployment, especially among the Faunus.
I think it would just be easier. This is the way you have been doing things for a while now, and this way you can save all of your robots for security and military purposes.
The most complex robot i would trust to do something like mining would be ones like Penny which, as seen in the series, are treated as human for the most part and are probably immensely expensive in the initial costs. Faunas however are a readily available resource that has already been shown to work, and should something like a mine collapse happen they would be able to respond faster than autonomous robots who would no doubt be lost in that event.
An odd idea I had was that pre-Grimm history was ultimately lost, but it is known that the Grimm didn't always exist, so the question becomes how they came to be.
Caleb Chaney when Celtic gets to volume 4 maybe but honestly I think he'll just drop the human creation story and swap with explanation for the silver eyes (because honestly that was a good moment to actually explain it goddammit)
I'd like it if it was because of Salem, i always thought that'd be the case and even now it'd make more sense if it had been her whether she directly or indirectly had something to do with their creation.
I liked how you made each kingdom's origin different in a way that explained the "character arc" each one goes through leading up to the series proper. History is a part of culture and the diverse backgrounds of the characters, when paired with the history of where they're from, could create some character dynamics. Like, Ren and Pyrrha are both from Mistral, and very different parts of Mistral, so that's going to affect the team dynamic.
The more I think about it, how are the humans the dominant species if the faunus have so many advantages? Some Bugs have venom and can lift more than they weigh, reptiles have venom, camouflage, and god know what else. Let's not forget about the fucking heighten senses. I don't think the humans have a single advantage. Shouldn't the humans be the enslaved one?
WELL THAT...makes sense...You might just sell at a higher price than the others if I go through with the kidnapping thing...he said (not really) jokingly.
Celtic Phoenix Productions or the long tongues although now that I think about it if frog Faunus existed they would either have the eyes or the long tongue
I think something additional could be considered and that is how each of the academies are different. In the show none of the academies really seem to stick out from one another. : Vale: More about protecting everyone regardless of kingdom or race, teams are given full freedom to separate or remain together. Open to Faunus and humans. Atlas: More about discipline and camaraderie. Since the academy and military are combined, make each team act as units so it encourages team-work and cooperation. They'd also likely have a very nationalistic mentality. Does not allow Faunus to join. Vacuo: Undisciplined and more attuned to creating people who can do as they like. They are the most "free" if you will. Encourages individualism more than the others. Openly welcomes Faunus and humans alike. Mistrel: Has more familial heritages that make up it's hunters/huntresses with new families striving to prove themselves in a mostly friendly competitive fashion. Faunus are allowed to join, but are segregated from humans(separate but equal).
The idea of differentiating the academies is nice and should be tackled at one point in both the show proper and in this series. The only problem I see in your comment is the Atlas Academy not allowing Faunus in their establishment when we saw Neon Kat (I think that's how you spell it...) in an Atlas team with Flynt Coal...
LukaBlight69 That could work, Neon are Flynt are minor characters and they don't seem like they are from Atlas anyway. We'll just have to say the Atlas academy only accepts humans and has really high standards, despite a great chunk of the population is Faunus (according to the Fixing RWBY version).
Well, looks like there’s a team of proper Atlas huntsmen with a faunus in volume 7... It’s a shame, because other than that the squad fit your idea perfectly. Perhaps faunus huntsmen simply aren’t nearly as numerous in Atlas, because only those with undeniable potential are (grudgingly) accepted
I console myself by saying "Once RT goes bankrupt someone rich or crowd funded from the fandom or the fandom itself could buy the IP and remaster it properly".
I love how you made each kingdom differ and explained how each sub type would develop accordingly both physiologically and psychologically. This requires far more thought than the canon reason of "we wanted cat girls in RWBY, then expanded that idea to other animals."
I'm glad you're enjoying these! Remember not to forget to check out the response videos I did to all the questions as well; there's some interesting stuff that gets covered there! :D
Honestly Monty an co probably thought of cool concepts first and then quickly made the connecting thread - it's clear that the RWBY Staff didn't take into consideration a lot of traditional world building elements.
Funny enough, Miles and Kerry were the ones often holding Monty back from going too far with the Rule of Cool. Like originally, he'd wanted the Black trailer to have Adam slicing apart entire train cars with his sword and they talked him out of it.
You should make world of remnants from now on. its a sad day when a fan understands a series better than the writers. I would have handled the faunus just a touch differently. i would leave out the heat and low pregnacy rates and just say their genetics are unstable and lead to mutations genetic diseases with slighly lower birth rates everything else could remain. if only because i don't want to be the writer that tries to approach a human mating season.
I agree on that 'understand' is not the right term to use. Miles and Kerry understand the series they're trying to make. I think he simply meant that Celtic's vision is a little more clear, and his ability to lay it out coherently more concise.
Angelofdeth20 yeah, I’d keep most of the stuff Celtic added too but also keep out the low pregnancy rates and the heat. I would let there be a lower than average chance at conception between a Faunus and a Human to show the genetic differences.
Mating seasons don't need to even be an issue! It's like female periods, they can be brought up but entire series can ignore the issue even with lots of prominent women. If it must come up, simply throw together an episode of Blake and other Faunus acting more flirty than usual, and aromantic other times of the year (including perhaps the next episode dealing with the fallout of so many normally-aromantics flirting and then suddenly going back to being relatively cold). Point out that the hospital's maternity ward has a flood of Faunus babies because it's been [one Faunus pregnancy length] since the Mating Season and that's why this Anti-Faunus villain is trying to destroy the hospital. Blake thinks that Remnant-Valentines is discriminatory towards Faunus because it is set during a non-mating season, as the B-plot (or just her subplot) of the Valentines episode. Just because animals go into heat and everything devolves into sex doesn't mean that INTELLIGENT beings must fall to their bestial nature.
I would very happily aid the production of a fan-created non-profit RWBY series based on your retelling. Unfortunately I have the sneaking suspicion that RT would crack down on that shit should it surface.
One major issue I have: where does Dust fall into all of this? Its discovery leads to man's primary form of resistance against the Grimm (according to the canon lore anyway), and Salem implies that man is in some way descended from it and inexorably tied to it.
Honestly, at this point I’d give up on the idea of “Man came from dust,” because it hasn’t been brought up even once since then. The creators probably just thought it sounded cool and/or forgot about it.
@@jordinagel1184 I thought when they said that man came from dust it meant that man came from nothing and that they named dust after the saying that man came from dust
A different line of thought is that the Faunus were genetically engineered in order to better fight the grim. This also opens up the civil right plot point, in that it gives a reason for the human to be arrogant, they think that since they made them, they own them
I really like your reinterpretation of the history of Remnant, as has thus far been revealed. I look forward to seeing more of your tweaks for the rest of the show. One thing I myself am curious about regarding the kingdoms is where exactly their borders fall. The show talks about how specific geographical features are what foster the birth and growth of these kingdoms, and that straying too far from these natural sweet spots usually ends in disaster. This makes me wonder just how much of their own land and borders the kingdoms are actually able to control. Potentially speaking, the kingdoms could be relatively small, with lots of international and unclaimed water and land between them. But the WoR have also mentioned the existence of nomadic tribes that travel and live in these largely unknown and lawless lands. RWBY is an action show with heavy elements of fantasy, sci-fi, and adventure. It seems like a missed opportunity to me that the show hasn't done more(yet) to explore these nomadic tribes, how they may differ and function, and the unique landscapes of Remnant itself.
all in all, pretty good, I think you did a far better job than the actual creators (and I am not just saying that to hate on the creators). Right now I am even working on my own fantasy world's history and have gained some insight from this, again, good job! Can't wait for the next video... 2 months from now...
Truly fantastic work here. You really wouldn't have done this if you didn't feel strongly for the series as we do, so thank you for this. I might even use the tightness of this info to work on my own lore. Keep up the good work!
It's a bit funny that plenty of the point you made on the Lore video I had unconsciously patch them in my fic, almost with the same conclusions as you (particularly Aura and Semblance), I agree with the Faunus and Humans having a common ancestors (because the "mystery" of faunus makes absolutely no sense) and your socioeconomical was really good, I personally decided to discards WOR from vol 4 onwards, specially the vacuo and mistral stuff which really really rub me the wrong mostly for personal reasons though (the canon wor not your history). Instead I based myself in the clues of the chracters from these kingdoms, so we have a grecorroman with remants of imperialistic mindset with a rich artistic expression but a huge schism and classicism still going around, Vacuo on the other hand I feel it would be like a eastern/new world feel: because until a little before the Great War their interactions with other kingdoms were limited to trades and the ocassional scholars traveling in between Vacuo and Vale, the reason people have a low opinion on Vacuo is because they consider their mindset and beliefs: more based in community, hierachy based on experience and age rather than wealth or social standing, weird and unpractical... because that means they can't very often make trade deals the way they want and they want A LOT from Vacuo, Mistral may have fertile land and arts, but Vacuo has priced minerals and materials that other kingdoms need to develop their land, that also means they are very wary of outsiders and straying away from traditions and commnnity is frowned upon; Atlas and Vale I can see more like in canon, except I imagine Mantle was less militaristic before becoming Atlas and more into research and knowledge, they have the bit of nationalistic pride product of the War, they tend to be more frugal than other kingdoms, but other kingdoms often consider this as a stuck up disposition, and they covet their people's advances very much, thus emigration is hard and very messy. Vale is seen as the kingdom with the best living standards from the kingdoms, strong middle class unlike Mistral, lack of the restrictions and militaristic fervor of Atlas; and more individualistic than Vacuo, but not at the level of Mistral (where every person is let to their luck), however I don't like Vale being so... nice whereas all the other kingdoms have their bad sides, I feel Vale is the perfect place where little grievances fester and grow into big problems due to not dealing with them properly; things like crime rates being low... because crime lords have adjusted their MO to a legal facade where they abuse the less educated and poorer people; faunus are not as looked down as Mistral or Atlas, but micro agressions are prevalent and little is done to address violence against them because it's seen as "isolated incidents", where there might be a strong net for social welfare... as long as you don't have "associations" with less than desirable people or don't exhibit abnormal behavior. Wow, that was superlong
About the Faunus heat cycles. Even if it is accurate to how they would evolve, I can’t think of many non-fanservicy ways this would be out into the story. Even if it was an evolutionary advantage, it seems like an extraneous detail that would distract more than it helps. I like the rest of the video, but this just stuck out to me
Considering that I wrote all my Remnant history ideas when I had a massive headache and decided to play EU4 to alleviate the pain, I can safely say that I am moderately satisfied1 of your refinement of some of my ideas. I am mostly proud of your interpretation of the Vacuo Confederation of the Free Tribes. Although you should add some more historical figures into this history aside from just the King of Vale. But that may contradict itself along the lines if future iterations of RWBY canon were to add historical figures themselves. Hmm... Aside from that, good job on the complexities of the cultural and political situations of each of the kingdoms. The weird geography of Remnant and the inclusion of THAT Grimm factor must have been a hinderance on your historical interpretations, so good on you for overcoming it! As for suggestions, I know that you might talk about this subject when you cover volume 4, but I realize only having one religion in the world for Ozpin's secret society to eliminate is nonsensical. I have a couple of suggestions on the religions and pantheons that may have circulated around Remnant and the ultimate fate of each one by the time Volume 1 begins. Do you want me to PM you, write my ideas in the comments section, or don't want to hear for now because you actually want to get to Fixing Vol. 1?
I realize this is nearly a year later but this video is sosososoooo good and you did an amazing job handling all the kingdoms and their interrelations (it even became a little confusing for me, at points, felt like a real history class)
CHRIST, way to put in MUCH more thought then the creators of the damn show did. My god, I am only commenting 5 minutes, but Jesus...They should hire you at this point.
3:24 Good sir, it's a common misconception that chameleons change colour for defensive camouflage. Most don't, and instead change colour as a form of heat regulation and communication (there are some species that do actually use in for camo though, so you're technically not wrong, I just like being pedantic about this one thing). Interestingly enough, it's octopi and squid that typically change colour for camouflage more often than chameleons. Also, I really like this series, but it'd been too long since I'd last given it a watch
Can't really argue with your interpretation; it's pretty solid.I do have some questions, though. Q1. In regards to Menagerie government, how does it work? I assume it is a democracy, but the show calls him a chieftain, like he rules over a tiny group. Also depending on where the White Fang began, it can be weird he even reached that seat of power. (kinda unrelated to history but) Personally I think it detracts from Blake's character for her to come from affluence, mainly because the show heavily implied she was an orphan at the start with the whole protesting in rags as a baby thing. Q2. What sort of specific injustices would Adam have used to justify to his followers that Vale, the okay-est place to live sorta kinda, needed some street justice? What events could he point to as anti-faunus or bullshit laws he could site that oppress faunus? He could obviously lie, but it would be more interesting if it could have some justification.
I am, obviously, not McNeil, so I don't know if what I say would be absolute in the Fixing RWBY series; but I think I can answer your questions... Sorry for the overly long explanation... Q1.0: When I proposed my ideas of each of the civilizations, I chalked Menagerie up to being like the Five Nations of the Cherokee and that's it. With a little bit of research and some more elaboration, Menagerie is made up of a loose confederacy of autonomous towns, much like Vacuo. In fact, it can be assumed that Vacuo's tribal confederacy is where the newly established Menagerie government drew inspiration from. Now in each town, there is the two governments: the white government (for peace and domestic affairs) and the red government (for military affairs). It can be assumed that the White Fang started out as a small, discontent group that got fed up with the humans' decision to put them in a small island in the middle of nowhere. They eventually gained enough power to become the new council of one of the towns as the white government, dubbing them the White Fang (history is too convenient sometimes). When their influence spread to the other towns through their ideals and beliefs, they decided to merge the White and Red governments together in their town to consolidate their power. The leader of the White Fang, Ghira Belladona, disagreed with the merge. A compromise was made between the Ghira faction and the Sienna Khan's faction to split the White Fang in half and let Ghira rule the White government and Khan to rule the Red government. Of course, the Khan faction continued influencing more towns and even areas outside of Menagerie. Khan was considered the de facto leader of the White Fang. And when Ghira did not contest Khan's power. Khan became the de jure leader of the White Fang as well. Thus you see the shifting of the White Fang flag from white to red in Blake's backstory as symbolism. The Red government's White Fang kept their name for most likely sentimental reasons. Q1.5: You do bring up a good point of why Blake is wearing rags as a child when she came from an influential family in Menagerie. I can only assume that Blake follows the "Eccentric Aristocrat" archetype. She sees her fellow Faunus of lower class fighting for their rights to be equals, so she feels she must be on the same level as them and fight for Faunus rights as well. Although, she only really protested for Faunus rights outside of Menagerie when her family took her along on diplomatic trips to other kingdoms. It would be pointless to protest in Menagerie, considering there is no one to really protest to. Unless foreign officials come to Menagerie, then she might protest if it doesn't cause a diplomatic incident (so rarely, if at all). She eventually met Adam on a trip to Vale and continued meeting him every time she went to Vale, and thus the RWBY Black Trailer ensues. Q2.0: I'll try to make this one short. I think the main reason for a White Fang branch in Vale is due to some Faunus discontent on how the Vale government handled Faunus treatment. Both in canon and the Fixing RWBY version, showed how sloppy and incompetent Vale's government is. So Faunus like Adam may not be able to justify Vale's prejudice, but they can justify their incompetence, considering the Vale government just made empty promises for equality and gave them an island to put an end to their complaints.
interesting theory on the government. Also, i know it's in service of the terror plot and all so incompetence/distrust of Vale is fine, i just think that having a really good reason in Vale specifically would help A) legitimize the fact by giving the audience an example B) Paint the White Fang as not just evil terrorists but as terrorists with a motive we the audience can sympathize with making the group as a whole more dimensional. As for Blake, I gotta a lotta problems with her characterization. When she was first appearing I thought what they were going for was a girl who had been with the WF since being able to speak because that's all she had in the world (because I thought she was an orphan). I thought that, and it explained her overlooking their drifting from their original intent and their radicalization. She wouldn't want to give up her closest thing to a family. Hell, she may have at first agreed with the change. Her relationship with Adam would be closer than ever, seeing him as a father figure, a mentor, and becoming more brotherly as she aged. Leaving the WF and Adam would be a huge decision. She would truely have no place to go. No allies, no friends, no family. With her having a family to go back to it lessens the impact of leaving, having the president of fluffy town as her dad it cuts all the emotional impact from such a choice from us. It still makes narrative sense, it just isn't as interesting of a narrative.
Yeah. The White Fang should have attacked Atlas or Mistral to be honest. I mean we saw Blake and Adam attack a Schnee train in the Black Trailer, so I assume the reason why the White Fang are stationed in Vale is because they want to halt all trade to and from Atlas. Thus making Atlas' companies who uses slave labor suffer, and make a clear message to the world that the White Fang finds the slavery of Faunus intolerable and they won't stop until it is completely abolished (and thus it makes them sympathetic to presumably the anti-slavery audience). Then we get the White Fang attacking Vale using a TRAIN and GRIMM... So that idea is up in the air now. Thanks Vol. 2. As for Blake's characterization, I completely agree. Her motivations and actions regarding her family, Adam, the White Fang, and for herself is what I can only describe as confusing. Honestly, I don't know how to fix her character ever since Vol. 4 became a thing and just messed up my perception of her. I first thought of her as a self-proclaimed freedom fighter, now all I see her as an edgy teenager who has a lot free time... Personally, I am sticking with my "Eccentric Aristocrat" version of Blake. It may not be the most interesting thing, but at least it makes some sort of sense. But hey, this Fixing RWBY series exists for a reason, so maybe McNeil has something in mind for Blake's characterization.
Unfortunately all we can do is guess his motivations and history. The only thing that makes sense right now is he originally joined with a motive outside of bettering faunus (money, power, etc.). If it comes out he was a good guy until some tipping point, his character would fall apart somewhat but not entirely. The question would then become how did he not lose followers and those deserters alert the organization to his polarizing doctrine. In fact, how did that not happen in the canon? The only way it makes narrative sense is if he was cunning and manipulative from the start and has only had the broken facade reveal recently, but we know this isn't true because Blake left way before the story begins citing issues with their new direction and actions (vol 1? i think?). I think a lot has to do with what Celtic Phoenix said in the video; they just didn't plan enough and their ideas are just allowed to morph unrestricted and detrimentally. And him having those romantic feelings for her wouldn't be nearly as bad if he wasn't so obviously disgusting. Like he's comically creepy. I thought he might change his mind from killing Blake to tying her to some train tracks at any moment during that scene where he confronts her in the attack. If they pulled back a little it could add to the dynamic.
I only had one issue with this video, and that was when you said "poison" when talking about a scorpion's offensive capabilities. C'mon man, it's venom. There *is* a difference.
If you're a writer knowing what the words you use mean is incredibly important. He's not actually writing the show so it's not important, but pointing it out like Shad0wReaper133 did is what a team of writers or a proofreader would do.
Honestly, I think it's stupid how there are only four major kingdoms. I mean Vale seems to be the size of Europe and has had like seven kingdom at a time. I really feel like this world it incredibly small. Seriously, how big are these land masses?
My head cannon is that there a lots of "Countries" but they are dominated by one of the four major kingdoms and are considered part of them and are expected to pay taxes and follow the laws of the bigger kingdoms but I agree that seems dumb.
I quite agree with your changes to the Faunus and find your ideas quite interesting such as the concept of Faunus going into heat like regular animals. I do sincerely hope you go into a lot more detail about the White Fang in a future episode, though. I love RWBY for many reasons but to me, the most interesting aspect of the show has always been the Faunus, the White Fang and their social/political struggle. As a result of this, one of my biggest issues with the show (Infact, it's arguably my biggest issue with the show right now) is the ABSOLUTE under-utilization of the White Fang in the story thus far. To me, they are such an interesting idea for an antagonist group that should be delved into a lot more, both by the show proper and by you. Maybe RWBY will do so in future Volumes but right now, they definitely need some more meat to them. As for the rest of your video, I'm admittedly mixed. On the one hand, you made a very in-depth and intriguing history to the formation of the Kingdoms and the properties of each Kingdom's government. I found it extremely enlightening and engaging to listen to the history you created. But.. I disagree with your change to how the Great War started. In my opinion, the idea of an unspecified violent incident that snowballed and culminated in the events that would lead to the Great War sounds a hell of a lot more interesting than your idea which can be boiled down to "The Great War started because of a bunch of trade deal mishaps and political bullshit", especially since RT's version brings up nice parallels to both World War 1 & World War 2. And it gave us the pretty interesting theory, one I 100% believe, that the Great War was Salem's first attempt to destroy Remnant through subterfuge, manipulating things to create this incident to spark the Great War and goading humanity into destroyed itself. Also, like I said, I found your idea of the history of the formation of the Kingdoms very interesting but I admittedly don't see how any of it could end up being plot-relevant apart from, again, ancillary information in a World of Remnant or something. I think it's a nice bit of world-building and it's awesome information to have. But I do get why it's not been focused on in the actual show, since the formation of the Kingdoms themselves doesn't seem to have any bearing on the show apart from ancillary world-building. World-building is fantastic, I get that, but you can only build the world so much before you end up with the Star Wars Expanded Universe where even the flies buzzing around Luke Skywalker have their own comic book series. Anyway, long post short, this was a good video. I'm admittedly mixed on some of the stuff you said but overall, you offered some interesting ideas and an interesting backstory. Can't wait for the next episode and for you to delve into the series proper.
Really well done. The clear voice over and good editing kept me from getting lost during the story. Maybe I would have liked to hear more about what the grim were doing during all of this but that's a lot to cover... I'm excited for the next episode. Keep it up man!
I have an idea that I think is interesting and could fit into the history of Remnant, albiet with some retconning. The Crusades. (I got the initial idea from V2 E1, when the their girl (her name somehow slipped my mind) asks the bookstore owner if he has a book called "Third Crusade"; somehow I came up with an entire story idea from that). After mankind discovers dust and figures out how to use it (though they don't know it's limits and overestimate it's potential), the nations of the world decide that humanity should try to launch crusades to cleanse the world of Grimm (which emphasizes how little people understood the nature of Grimm). The 1st and 2nd Crusades, though somewhat successful, were mostly small scale, regional reclamations of land around the City-states. But the largest of the Crusades, and the most impactful, was the 3rd Crusade, which sought to cleanse the entirety of the continent North of Vale and Vacuo (I'm gonna call it Avonia for simplicity) (Retcon #1: Avonia is uninhabited by humans in this version, which also serves as foreshadowing to how this ends). The army assembled to reclaim Avonia would be the largest ever assembled in the history of Remnant; I'm not gonna give numbers, but about 10% of the world population, 3/4 of it's adult male population capable of military service, is the scale I'm going for. Though they were successful in taking the southern penninsula, even being able to set up a new city, the further the crusades go, the higher the casualty rates rise. Men needed to be replaced; the manpower shortage got so dire, that a general started secretly recruiting faunusi (who are basically mostly slaves). Eventually, ten years after it started, the crusading army is destroyed, along with the city they set up and all the people who lived there; only a few managed to return home. The shockwaves from this disaster were enormous; governments tried to cover up the disaster and suppressed any information regarding the crusades; several survivors were ordered by the government to commit suicide in order to keep them from talking about the disaster. The truth, however, eventually comes out; a book commonly known as "Third Crusade" written by one of the only surviving leaders of the Crusades, though banned by the government, gets printed and read by the public; it causes uproar, creating tensions that lead to both the Great War and the Faunus War (btw this is all supposed to be an allegory for Martin Luther and the Gutenberg Bible which caused the Reformation). Because of government attempts to destroy all copies of "Third Crusade"; few original copies survive at the time the story of RWBY takes place. So there; that's my idea. I came up with all of that from a single throwaway line of dialogue. Any thoughts?
I'm waiting for the day some big studio (at least one with experienced and acclaimed animators and writers at its disposal) picks up RWBY and hires or at least takes critical advice from all these fan channels on RUclips, with the intent to remake the first few volumes (probably combine V1 and V2 with extra scenes added so that episode and volume lengths are consistent) in a more coherent way and then use the remade series as a jump-off point to continue making new volumes.
I really struggle with the idea of war even being possible on remnant. The Grimm come whenever negative emotions are present, so how would an army even be able to make the trek without at least a couple of them bearing fears of their own death and acting as a homing beacon for the Grimm? How does that happen? The Grimm seem to be constant presence outside the walls of an empire. So avoiding them once your deployed is impossible. I mean look at the fall of beacon, a little negative spout and everything goes to hell.
im assuming you get to the more fairy tale like aspects when you fix the volumes also good luck with volume 1 i know it will be taxing but you shall persist
that is true i would like to see how you set up the main conflict either it will be the white fang or ancient grimm that have started awakening from ages long sleep either way i would like to see how it goes
i think this was necessary, in the real show we didn't get much from the whole "war" thing, just a vague idea of some conflict long ago. i like that you've crafted a good overview that explains and influences the current timeline of the plot while leaving enough open to "fill in" new details later. now if i may give a suggestion; i was thinking that Blake is the weakest link of the whole show due to her lack of an arc (at least for V1-3), so i was thinking have her be a double agent. her betrayal of Adam at the beginning was something the two of them arranged ahead of time to get her into beacon and to steal valuable intel. but at the end of the first season she realized the white fangs plan is to unleash grimm on an innocent populace of faunus and human alike. so she frees wiess (who was captured earlier while looking for a purse snatcher) and the two of them call for back up to minimize the damage. also i was thinking of doing my own retelling of the rwby story, would you mind at all if i used some of your ideas here and in the lore video, i think they're pretty good. especially the "great war" part.
I have very little issue with this version of the history for RWBY considering up until Salem’s backstory was revealed it was the least developed past of the story. And even after it was revealed, it didn’t do much to clear up any confusion viewers may have had. Your history actually fits in rather well with both your version of RWBY and the original version. It gives a clearer idea of why the nations are so different and clears up reasons for the stigma that exists around the faunus. I think the one detail you added that was incredibly necessary was the existence of mini nations. Even if they were absorbed into the 5 main nations remnants of them (pun absolutely intended) would likely still remain. The world of Remnant, from what I assume, is based on the same scale as our Earth, meaning that it is much, much larger than the map can really represent. Within the 5 kingdoms that rule Remnant, I would assume that states exist. These states would have different climates, cultures, and ways of living from their capitols and travel to them throughout the series paints clearer path of where the characters are traveling and how long it might take to travel to them. Edit: Although, as some others have mentioned, the inclusion of heat and mating issues do not need to be directly mentioned. Mentioning that because faunus are so varied, genetic mutations and disease are common making it difficult for them to have children.
I like this and it honestly helps with my own world building (even though when it's written down most of it probably isn't going to actually be brought up in the story)
This makes me even more frustrated that the "professionals" did such a hack job. Like, it could have been a lot easier to make a world that is similar to our history; with a little changes here and there. I'm curious on how Japan, Germany, or any culture would treat faunus. Anyway, I got sidetracked and went off a tangent. Great video and I hope to see more like this.
I'm not sure how much I like the 'heat' periods of faunus. It seems like something you'd find in a smut fic. Maybe clarify it? It's less an insatiable urge, like found in animals. More just faunus having trouble conceiving outside of determined periods?
I had to laugh that flag you used for the fanus, the orange with the white paw, is my university's flag. Nice to see my alma mater get an unintentional reference. I also really like the world building here.
Late to the party, but interesting video. Only issue I had is that I can’t even recall what each of the kingdoms are. You using their emblems was neat but I can’t ever recall seeing any of them within the show itself. But regardless now I have another bird RUclipsr to enjoy video essays from.
I’d imagine the people of Vacuo organizing something like the Kiithid Of Kharak from Homeworld are described. Specialist clans united very loosely. Then again, that might just be because I love Homeworld. :P
The groundwork has been set...now GET TO WORK! I kid, take your time. Just dont keep this old man waiting too long. I'd like to see this series complete before I keel over. (Wait you're a pheonix....maybe i can take a feather with me just in case...)
For the Faunus, what I would have done ties back to my comment on the previous video, where I said I would have made humans transform into Grimm if they are filled with too much negativity and hatred. It will also, once again, involve the supposed Gods that exist in this universe. Since Grimm look like animals, I would have made it so that the benevolent God found a way to restore someone's humanity if they turn into a Grimm. Essentially, if someone's mind could be restored, then their body would follow suit. However, they wouldn't return fully as a human. They would posses some remaining personality traits and features of the Grimm. The humans could label the reformed Grimm as Faunus, due to the fact that they posses animal like features.
Im building a world for anovel and someone suggested I come to this video, not revealing why. Of course I liked RWBY in the early days so I decided why not. Hearing all the geopolitical stuff you wrote really helped my autistic brain understand a lot of concepts I read about but struggled to apply, and now I see I have quite a bit content to watch. So thank you and I look forward to seeing how much this series grew over the years.
This is what i imagine Monty had more or less in mind or wanted for RWBY and what i wish was into the show proper... It adds sooo much to the events and characters, really good job, nothing seems far fetched and it still very RWBY-like, just picking any characters in the context of this lore makes it a 100 times better, like imagining Oz being the king of Vale. I really wish this was the level of care RT had for it.
I have a question about the state of Mistral and Saradaucus (Probably spelled that wrong, sorry). So if Mistral annexed after their war with Saradaucus, why after the Great war was it not abated? Wouldn't have there been some rebellion that wanted independence from the Mistrallains. Since they were inspired by the Greeks I'd like to compare it to how the Ottoman empire brought Greece under their wing, only for the Greeks the have a war of independence. It's just how i'd interpret these things.
God this is so much more fucking interesting than the history or plot of the actual RWBY world. By the way, I was wondering if you had any idea as to how this new exposition you've created would be revealed during the actual show. Would you give Qrow an episode to dump all of it, would you use World of Remnants, or some other way?(World of Remnants always felt like cheating to avoid actual exposition in the story but eh)
I do have a question regarding your Mistral history. It's a minor point that can easily be ignored, but what would you supose is the reason Anima developed such a thriving underworld compared to lesser gangs like in Vale?
Drugs. Asianic crime typically stems from proffering of opiates among the populace, and the mirrors to China and Japan are too grand to ignore. That's at least my stab at it.
Hey. So, I actually started writing a comment, but then I accidentally went back to the previous video with a wrong swipe of my fingers on my trackpad and I lost everything. Basically, though, I was just saying that I like what you have here, and that your love for RWBY shows through the time and effort you put into making this. Good job. That said, I do have a tiny problem with one of the ideas you proposed. This may be just a matter of personal preference, but someone else (Angelofdeth20) commented on it, too. The Faunus having mating cycles or going into heat as a way to compensate for breeding and cross-breeding difficulties doesn't quite make sense. Mating seasons would be misaligned and based on species. It wouldn't be all that helpful. Further, the Faunus are supposedly the minority anyway, and so having difficulty breeding in general could explain that. It would also counterbalance their superior attributes over humans. I don't feel like a mating cycle is even necessary -- I'd argue, even, that it makes the Faunus too much like animals and would really only be an extra reason for fan fiction writers to come up with NSFW stories. Also, I noticed a possible discrepancy with regards to the story of the two brothers and how you then proceed to explain how the Faunus and humans evolved. I mean, I could be wrong -- it's late, I'm getting tired and I don't quite remember everything you said. But one of the WoR episodes say the Faunus have been around as long as humans have -- maybe even a little longer. And the story of the two brothers hints at creation more than evolution -- and that the story of the two brothers is probably correct, in RWBY, at least, because Ozpin believes it and Ozpin seems to know everything. I guess what I'm saying is that you mentioned the Faunus and humans evolving from one point, but if you're going by the story of the brothers, it seems like humans and Faunus were created as is from the start. However, because this subject is pretty close to the real-world debate of evolution versus creation, I'll just say that I can respect your choice if, in your version of RWBY, the Faunus and humans have evolved instead of having been created. I was just a little confused about a possible discrepancy in how you're addressing that topic, is all. Take care!
Man, I wish I had someone as skilled you helping me plan out my book series. You'd think that after ten years (Well, ten years as of next Sunday, but whatever, close enough.) I'd know all the different intricacies I need to look out for. Well, to be honest here, I do, I just phrased that really badly. See, I can arrive at the same conclusions you do, and make lore just as intricate, but the issue is the sheer amount of time it takes me to ever even get to that point. Whereas you accomplished all this in maybe a month or two, it'd take me a little under half a year. That's nearly triple the amount of time, and it's quite simply ludicrous for these sorts of things to take me that damn long. Not to mention another problem I have is how far out of my way I have to go in a measly effort to think up ways I can better develop and nurture the simplest concepts such as character development throughout my series. I believe that I have the foundation and workings for something great, even absolutely breathtaking at it's best here. I mean, I should hope so, I've spent ten whole years on the thing thus far, and I'm not even done. I've got so many arcs, and so many intricate plot details that I can really get into and find myself geeking out over despite being the only person in the entire universe to even know it exists in the first place! At its high points it can blow my mind each and every time I think about it, and while I am by NO means an egotistical man, there are moments in this series that contain some of the greatest plot I've ever heard of in my entire life! ...then at many other points it just makes me facepalm over how ridiculously stupid it's lows can end up as. It has inconsistent levels of quality in not just it's story, but it's characters as well. We have Jiyuu Rin, which is probably (No, not probably, definitely.) my favorite character in anything absolutely fucking ever, and then we have Chloe, which... try as I might, I just can't think of a purpose for her, and yet she still tags along. I have amazing villainous threats such as Memoria or Rekaya (or Jiyuu Rin again), and then... weak pillars of enemies such as Eternity or Slumber. You take the beautifully constructed lore surrounding a shred of the story which rightfully deserves it's piece of the pie, and watch it basically shoehorned into the overall storyline because of a lack of ways to give reasoning to its presence. Then there are certain elements/characters such as Yordan, or Amy's father (Whom I really need to figure out a name for.), which are absolutely vital to the storyline, but... really don't bring much to the table outside of this one, menial thing. I have so much love and compassion for this overarching universe-no wait, excuse me, it's actually a multiverse-that I've created, and all I want is to see my dreams for it come to fruition. I want to take Maverick's character development, Silk's storyline, Katherine's personality, Mark's overexaggerated parallels to realism, Cassandra's revelations, Stephan's plot twist, (and Gerald's and Aemze's and Quentin's and ...well, okay, maybe I've got this one covered. My point still remains.) and the Empowered arc, and spread their extreme levels of quality around over the entire series. Unfortunately, I find myself incapable of doing this on my own. I mean, at least within one lifetime anyway. Frankly, I need help if I ever want this to become realized. Sadly enough, I doubt that's something I will ever get. Practically nobody is ever willing to help me out with this admittedly gigantic undertaking, and the few that are, are either A)Unfit for the job because their only feedback is "This is flawless", which I know damn well it isn't, or B)They just give up/tire of it all after the end of the revelations surrounding Cassandra I spoke about earlier. All I desire is to build up my life's passion in a way which I'm brutally well aware I'll never be capable of achieving on my own. It sucks. It sucks bad, and it can get me really down at times. I know I'll almost never be able to come up with ways to make my characters grow realistically over the course of the series, and I know that the greatest work I ever made for these books was right at the very beginning, I know that alone I'll likely never be able to top that. I am very well aware that it takes me much, much longer to come up with basic ideas other masterful creators such as yourself could develop nearly on the spot, and I can both understand and accept that I have never been, nor ever will be, an expert at this sort of thing. Writing just plain isn't a card my hand has ever been dealt. It just... it stinks that my life's passion, my series, that which I've been completely head over heels for ever since its very inception is something I am not very skilled at making. It stinks even worse still that I can't find anybody who does have the proper skillset that's willing to help me, or teach me their ways, or best of all, both! I, once again, adore my book series, and once the plot is all wrapped up in a nice little bow, and I'm ready to put it all out there, I want to give it the inauguration it truly deserves. I want to do right by it as it has done by me for so many years now, and I'm honestly... scared that that'll never happen for me. Anyway, I've had enough of being the weird, random creeper who decides to pour his heart out onto a RUclips comment that'll, inevitably, end up as lost to everyone. The point I was originally intending to get at is that you're f-in awesome at this sort of thing, and I'm absolutely loving your content thus far. I wish I'd found out about you sooner. Well... if you've read through to this point in then I suppose I should thank you. You deserve a medal for sitting through all my crap. So... thank you. Your patience and attention is highly appreciated. I hope you have a fantastic day and/or night. (Yes, I said 'and/or'.) Tropic Hawk out.
I read a manga called Dawn of the Arcana. They have creatures similar to Faunus called Ajin, but are referred to as subpersons. They are physically superior to humans, but are treated as a lower rank, thus are referred as subperson. This manga handled the topic much better than RWBY.
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I like the source for the fauness human tension, but I think the source for the fauness origin could be a more magically induced (although still involving survival or something) so that the animal traits make more sense. Aside from that I like the ideas.
ill have to watch the wor videos again to get a better grasp of what you actually changed but it all sounds pretty solid. the only thing i disagree with is the idea of normal people be "jealous" of the faunes. i personally think its a lot more simple in the sense that faunes are different, and people dont like different, so people treat that different... differently.
Just started watching this series. Wanted to start at the beginning. I have to say, I like it so far, though I can't say I'm a fan of the evolutionary explanation you give for faunus because it doesn't make any sense. Even if we go with the idea that the ancestors of faunus evolved to live in "extreme environments", the adaptations shown are 1. TOO EXTREME (and sometimes redundant, like some faunus having a pair of cat ears and a pair of regular humans ears. Why do they have that? How?) and 2. the traits faunus are shown to having are TOO WILDLY DIVERSE, some have chameleon-like skin, others have dog ears, yet more have antlers, or horns, etc etc. It doesn't make any sense evolutionarily. Honestly, I think the origins of the faunus would make more sense if it drew on the more fantastical elements of the setting. Like, maybe it has to do with magic, like someone or thing a really, really long time ago decided to make a magic spell or curse or whatever else and cast it on portion of humanity and their descendants became the faunus. Or maybe a god created them, or something IDK.
This could easily be made into a prequel series. If anyone is familiar with Warhammer 40,000 and the Prequel novels of the Horus Heresy, that’s the kind of thing I had in mind; a series of books detailing the Great War, beginning with one about the establishment of the then-current setting and the beginning of the conflict, one about the invasion by Mistrel and the war becoming truly global, one about the ultimately failed naval invasion of Atlas, one about Atlas and Mistrel’s counter-invasion, and one about the last decisive campaign and peace settlements, perhaps even a continuation into the faunus war.
Lol. My friend Ken highly respects you for at least takin' elements from history to a certain point. Though he would prefer the more complex in full swing instead of by design, me and him agree that this wasn't too simple. We're sayin' this on our part because we've done complex lore in the past that are still being thought out. Its fun, but feckin' hard to put down for us both. :/
7:06 woah, calm down there Aristotle, that's an awful lot of Eudaimonia you just said. (Translation: that sounds a lot like Aristotle's idea of eudaimonia)
An idea I like for something that plays a role in human-faunus conflict is that human cultures in the past believed that the faunus and the grimm were connected, be it that they all eventually turned into them or that they could change at free will and were secretly plotting against them, leading to witch-hunt type stuff.
Wait, if Remnant has combat academies for training hunstmam, aren't they supposed to have regular schools too that cater specifically to those who aim for professional jobs like office workers, business managers, doctors, engineers and scientists, right?
So, where did Nora come from in this version? Nice job on handling of Greco-Roman and Asian influences, but Nora apparently came from Mistral, but she fits into neither category. She's more Germanic or Nordic
Goregeous work. My only critique. Sorry for the length, I posted this on a message board: A lot of the plot points from RT you could keep if you're logical and actually show their effects. I.e. Cinder's virus infects and takes down the CCT network- still causes the panic of no communication, but a better excuse beyond "if one is silent than all are silent" (which I get the spirit behind, but is not practical). Then just don't have people using TV or other communication methods. Likewise a lot of the changes he suggests in the videos talks as though when characters said "I believe" or when spouting the most popular theory that they were hard fact (the two gods, where Aura comes from, where Faunus come from etc). Again, throwing in "some believe" more obviously would it works wonders. Dust can still have tonnes of "flavors", just have 4/5 colored crystals, and every other color as powder that's been carefully mixed to produce that effect a'la paint or light mixing (depending on which route you go down, the one you can't make- black or white- becomes it's own rare crystal. Prob black seeing as it's gravity and it's been done in the show). I.e. Red is fire, Yellow is lightning, but Orange made from half red and half yellow is Haste. Orange that's 3/4 Red and 1/4 yellow is a strength buff, etc. It then emphasizes how important and difficult it is to mix dust, since breaking down the crystals and the mixing are like video-game alchemy, wrong combinations waste good material at best, or detonate at worst. Shocked you managed to keep the "Grimm attracted to negative emotion" thing *and* have it make sense. I was gonna throw in some addiction style stuff (a big enough source of negative emotion overrides their self-preservation instincts. I.e. the festival's disaster is so wide scale even older, smarter Grimm are willing to zerg rush walls with gun turrets mowing them down- and it works), but your's just works flat. I'd have kept the Fanus breeding how it was originally, since Faunus not having an issue breeding, plus having Faunus babies even with another Human gives another reason for them to be hated (fear of being genetically over-run). Heat cycles are logical if you have low-breeding chance, but just feels like porn and doujin bait. Plus it seems pointless to bring it up and not show it, and there's very few logical plot driven ways to show them in heat without it coming across as cringy or fan-service-y (Illia initially pushed away feelings toward Blake as her being in heat, etc). I'm far from against fan-service, it just seems a step too far. I would keep sensitivity to light & noise, but the human jealousy seems an odd fit in a setting about individualism and equality, by implying the humans have a reason to be outright jealous as Faunus are better. Even if you include the weaknesses (maybe include stuff like being more suseptable to alcohol or poison), those who loathe the Faunus would not idolize their positive traits, legitimizing it instead as abnormal and freakish. I'm one of the few who thought the "We didn't like an animal-man walking out the bush, and constant age-old conflicts is what kept the racism today" approach was fine- but in addition to the historical reasons you proposed. The History of the Kingdoms never really bothered me. Though the logic you underpinned to each society is pretty good. Making Atlas/Mantle Socialist rather than Nationalist was a surprise, and I'm unsure if a socialist society would work in the early-days of a society works (but the less Communist/socialist you go the more likely it'll still live, though Nationalist Collectivism could still work in the setting I guess? Or it goes Nationalist post-Atlas takeover). I love how you sorted the Mistral Japano-Greek culture. Your proposal for the Great War is interesting. I did like "Suppress Art settlers vs. Freedom settlers" getting into a war over an island that blew out of proportion, but yours has far more logical underpinnings. I'd change "art show" to some sort of trade meeting or summit, and keep Mistral also abandoning their art, albeit reluctantly and probably practicing in secret still. Your logical explanation for why the King won would make a great scientific reasoning behind the tottaly-not-real-poetry-and-stories claiming he had a magic sword. Absolutely ''love'' how you handled the Faunus oppression (being born of something logical, a kinda-not-legal contract, eventually evolving into "well my parents always hated them"), and the slavery just being shitty work conditions that won't/can't be dealt with (same reason, for example, the US doesn't tell China to knock off it's shitty work conditions. They benefit from it, can't afford the political tension, and it's hard to prove *with no room for doubt*- and due to the influence of those companies and their deep pockets, it's 100% or nothing). Throw in details of how the Dust companies intentionally screw over areas their mines are in so Faunus have no other choice but the Dust mines, or hop to another Kingdom and be dirt poor there assuming they can even afford to travel. Even Menagerie is a bad option as you're starting from 0, no home and hard physical labor on an overpopulated island. You could assist the shows plot by having Menagerie "at capacity" so they can't even take in their own kind who are suffering. Keep the White Fang initially being peaceful (maybe even starting as the guerrilla movement proposed in the vid), and you've got gold. Top work, gonna subscribe.
we dont know if manageri is harsh or not. I also dont think it would be considering its location to the equator and the fact desert kingdoms do work out look at Egypt.
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I've read all of your comments so far people, and some are truly fantastic (I'm lookin' at you guys, writing five paragraph essays)! I'll cover them all in about two weeks time, so that late arrivals can fill in their own notes!
Celtic Phoenix Productions Is there going to be a Characters video sir
I'll be covering the characters in the main installments. If I feel they need their own video, maybe, but I'll be trying to cover them 100% in the core series.
Celtic Phoenix Productions Blake in heat 😏
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I get that Rooster Teeth is mainly focused on comedy, but still, they could've hired a few seasoned D&D Dungeon Masters to form an expertly crafted Magical-Social-Political landscape....we DMs do it all the time.....for FUN.
They have Frank who’s running AH’s Heroes & Halfwits, but tbh he’s not that good at building a world, decent, but still not that great.
I don't think being a d&d nerd automatically makes you qualified for writting.
Kye Dysarthria no, but your average DM would have much more experience with world building than the writers of RWBY, and could have given advice on how to do that in their story (and let’s be honest, considering what the world building in the show is like, even an average DM could have whipped up smg better than what we have now)
@@fightingmedialounge519 Yes but a lot of aspiring writes at least the ones I have seen do dnd. Its because dnd has a lot of moments where if just a tiny bit of wording was done wrong people might not be invested. Its good improv training and could be a good tool when you run out of ideas, it can also help you patch loopholes considering loopholes are always considered in a dnd game. The dungeon master has to adapt to loopholes quickly and neatly so that the whole plot doesnt run off the rails. While not all dungeon masters want or are good writers a lot of writers seem to congest into dnd.
Also maybe the writers in RWBY could benefit in just sitting down, laying out all the characters's personalities and all of the world building. And just spend a good portion of a day just repatching loopholes(I think, unless they already have meetups like that).
@@fightingmedialounge519no, but it does not hurt to have around alongside actual writers
This dude cares way more about the story than the writers do. Hire this man asap.
Better yet let him take over the show and hire his own writing team.
@@gravenwolf6535And bring Give Heart Productions on to compose the soundtrack. Now with metal breakdowns and baritone.
Personally, since slaves would attract Grim with their negativity and slavery doesn't really make sense when you've got robots as sophisticated as we've seen Atlas has, I like to think that the SDC's 'controversial labor forces' is actually them automating their operations leading to widespread unemployment, especially among the Faunus.
I don't recall them mentioning that in the series proper. If it was in a World of Remnant I probably missed it since I haven't watched all of those.
I think it would just be easier. This is the way you have been doing things for a while now, and this way you can save all of your robots for security and military purposes.
The robots are very recent compared to slavery. The advance in robotics would be BECAUSE they wouldn't have slavery
The most complex robot i would trust to do something like mining would be ones like Penny which, as seen in the series, are treated as human for the most part and are probably immensely expensive in the initial costs. Faunas however are a readily available resource that has already been shown to work, and should something like a mine collapse happen they would be able to respond faster than autonomous robots who would no doubt be lost in that event.
Killer of Gems Only Ruby and Penny's dad treat her like a human. The rest of Atlas (like the military) treats Penny as a tool.
An odd idea I had was that pre-Grimm history was ultimately lost, but it is known that the Grimm didn't always exist, so the question becomes how they came to be.
Caleb Chaney when Celtic gets to volume 4 maybe but honestly I think he'll just drop the human creation story and swap with explanation for the silver eyes (because honestly that was a good moment to actually explain it goddammit)
The first probably when villages started forming.
I'd like it if it was because of Salem, i always thought that'd be the case and even now it'd make more sense if it had been her whether she directly or indirectly had something to do with their creation.
Well then @@sassui90
I liked how you made each kingdom's origin different in a way that explained the "character arc" each one goes through leading up to the series proper. History is a part of culture and the diverse backgrounds of the characters, when paired with the history of where they're from, could create some character dynamics. Like, Ren and Pyrrha are both from Mistral, and very different parts of Mistral, so that's going to affect the team dynamic.
Bugs are so fundamentally different (especially during mating) from every other species that I don't know if they should exist as faunus.
damn that is true i always wondered about reptile faunus but then again illya is a chameleon so that fixes that
Reptiles aren't nearly as bad as bugs. If you apply an ant's strength to an ant faunus than the faunus would have be the dominant species.
The more I think about it, how are the humans the dominant species if the faunus have so many advantages? Some Bugs have venom and can lift more than they weigh, reptiles have venom, camouflage, and god know what else. Let's not forget about the fucking heighten senses. I don't think the humans have a single advantage. Shouldn't the humans be the enslaved one?
WELL THAT...makes sense...You might just sell at a higher price than the others if I go through with the kidnapping thing...he said (not really) jokingly.
Princess McNeil is used to being kidnapped and Locutusborg is practically on board...try asking someone SANE to help you!
That giraffe made me think... A giraffe faunus would be hilarious
just imagine.... "uhh you alright there zurafa?" "what this is just my natural neck height"
Actually I think we have... They have those little horn things that Giraffes has as their tell.
Celtic Phoenix Productions or the long tongues although now that I think about it if frog Faunus existed they would either have the eyes or the long tongue
Do you think horse faunus would resemble centaurs?
@Robert Chaffins Nah, I think it would be like horse ears or tail. If not, maybe just like Horse Prince from that dating sim.
I think something additional could be considered and that is how each of the academies are different. In the show none of the academies really seem to stick out from one another. :
Vale: More about protecting everyone regardless of kingdom or race, teams are given full freedom to separate or remain together. Open to Faunus and humans.
Atlas: More about discipline and camaraderie. Since the academy and military are combined, make each team act as units so it encourages team-work and cooperation. They'd also likely have a very nationalistic mentality. Does not allow Faunus to join.
Vacuo: Undisciplined and more attuned to creating people who can do as they like. They are the most "free" if you will. Encourages individualism more than the others. Openly welcomes Faunus and humans alike.
Mistrel: Has more familial heritages that make up it's hunters/huntresses with new families striving to prove themselves in a mostly friendly competitive fashion. Faunus are allowed to join, but are segregated from humans(separate but equal).
The idea of differentiating the academies is nice and should be tackled at one point in both the show proper and in this series. The only problem I see in your comment is the Atlas Academy not allowing Faunus in their establishment when we saw Neon Kat (I think that's how you spell it...) in an Atlas team with Flynt Coal...
Hence they re-write them as a Vacuo team, since Vacuo was essentially a step-child academy in volume 3.
LukaBlight69 That could work, Neon are Flynt are minor characters and they don't seem like they are from Atlas anyway. We'll just have to say the Atlas academy only accepts humans and has really high standards, despite a great chunk of the population is Faunus (according to the Fixing RWBY version).
Well, looks like there’s a team of proper Atlas huntsmen with a faunus in volume 7... It’s a shame, because other than that the squad fit your idea perfectly. Perhaps faunus huntsmen simply aren’t nearly as numerous in Atlas, because only those with undeniable potential are (grudgingly) accepted
Can Rooster Teeth just hire you......
Someone start a damn petition! XD
Nah.
That'd be bad.
Maybe someone can link them his vids? Send them an email or hit them up on twitter. They need to see this badly.
Too late now..
I console myself by saying "Once RT goes bankrupt someone rich or crowd funded from the fandom or the fandom itself could buy the IP and remaster it properly".
I love how you made each kingdom differ and explained how each sub type would develop accordingly both physiologically and psychologically. This requires far more thought than the canon reason of "we wanted cat girls in RWBY, then expanded that idea to other animals."
I'm glad you're enjoying these! Remember not to forget to check out the response videos I did to all the questions as well; there's some interesting stuff that gets covered there! :D
Honestly Monty an co probably thought of cool concepts first and then quickly made the connecting thread - it's clear that the RWBY Staff didn't take into consideration a lot of traditional world building elements.
Funny enough, Miles and Kerry were the ones often holding Monty back from going too far with the Rule of Cool. Like originally, he'd wanted the Black trailer to have Adam slicing apart entire train cars with his sword and they talked him out of it.
but wasn't monty and mk responsible for rwby writing?
Their saying miles and karey are what grounded monty.
You should make world of remnants from now on. its a sad day when a fan understands a series better than the writers. I would have handled the faunus just a touch differently. i would leave out the heat and low pregnacy rates and just say their genetics are unstable and lead to mutations genetic diseases with slighly lower birth rates everything else could remain. if only because i don't want to be the writer that tries to approach a human mating season.
Except this guy doesn't "understand" the series more than the writers do.
The same goes for fatmanfalling.
I agree on that 'understand' is not the right term to use. Miles and Kerry understand the series they're trying to make. I think he simply meant that Celtic's vision is a little more clear, and his ability to lay it out coherently more concise.
Dragonage2ftw what's wrong with FatManFalling?
Angelofdeth20 yeah, I’d keep most of the stuff Celtic added too but also keep out the low pregnancy rates and the heat. I would let there be a lower than average chance at conception between a Faunus and a Human to show the genetic differences.
Mating seasons don't need to even be an issue! It's like female periods, they can be brought up but entire series can ignore the issue even with lots of prominent women.
If it must come up, simply throw together an episode of Blake and other Faunus acting more flirty than usual, and aromantic other times of the year (including perhaps the next episode dealing with the fallout of so many normally-aromantics flirting and then suddenly going back to being relatively cold).
Point out that the hospital's maternity ward has a flood of Faunus babies because it's been [one Faunus pregnancy length] since the Mating Season and that's why this Anti-Faunus villain is trying to destroy the hospital.
Blake thinks that Remnant-Valentines is discriminatory towards Faunus because it is set during a non-mating season, as the B-plot (or just her subplot) of the Valentines episode.
Just because animals go into heat and everything devolves into sex doesn't mean that INTELLIGENT beings must fall to their bestial nature.
“Before anyone says this sounds like Phantom Menace...”
Actually, I was gonna say this sounds like World War 1 but ok.
i really like how you explained the restrictions in art in Mantle and Atlas. thats a rich history that makes sense
I would very happily aid the production of a fan-created non-profit RWBY series based on your retelling. Unfortunately I have the sneaking suspicion that RT would crack down on that shit should it surface.
One major issue I have: where does Dust fall into all of this?
Its discovery leads to man's primary form of resistance against the Grimm (according to the canon lore anyway), and Salem implies that man is in some way descended from it and inexorably tied to it.
Honestly, at this point I’d give up on the idea of “Man came from dust,” because it hasn’t been brought up even once since then. The creators probably just thought it sounded cool and/or forgot about it.
@@jordinagel1184 I thought when they said that man came from dust it meant that man came from nothing and that they named dust after the saying that man came from dust
A different line of thought is that the Faunus were genetically engineered in order to better fight the grim. This also opens up the civil right plot point, in that it gives a reason for the human to be arrogant, they think that since they made them, they own them
This is super intriguing and really well put together.
I really like your reinterpretation of the history of Remnant, as has thus far been revealed. I look forward to seeing more of your tweaks for the rest of the show.
One thing I myself am curious about regarding the kingdoms is where exactly their borders fall. The show talks about how specific geographical features are what foster the birth and growth of these kingdoms, and that straying too far from these natural sweet spots usually ends in disaster.
This makes me wonder just how much of their own land and borders the kingdoms are actually able to control. Potentially speaking, the kingdoms could be relatively small, with lots of international and unclaimed water and land between them. But the WoR have also mentioned the existence of nomadic tribes that travel and live in these largely unknown and lawless lands.
RWBY is an action show with heavy elements of fantasy, sci-fi, and adventure. It seems like a missed opportunity to me that the show hasn't done more(yet) to explore these nomadic tribes, how they may differ and function, and the unique landscapes of Remnant itself.
all in all, pretty good, I think you did a far better job than the actual creators (and I am not just saying that to hate on the creators). Right now I am even working on my own fantasy world's history and have gained some insight from this, again, good job! Can't wait for the next video... 2 months from now...
Or years.... We'll see, the trailers shouldn't be too hard to tackle, so much so I may just lump them in with Vol 1... XD
Armoraxis Gotta admit I thought they were hating the series but that was some pretty darn good worldbuilding right there.
Truly fantastic work here. You really wouldn't have done this if you didn't feel strongly for the series as we do, so thank you for this. I might even use the tightness of this info to work on my own lore. Keep up the good work!
It's a bit funny that plenty of the point you made on the Lore video I had unconsciously patch them in my fic, almost with the same conclusions as you (particularly Aura and Semblance), I agree with the Faunus and Humans having a common ancestors (because the "mystery" of faunus makes absolutely no sense) and your socioeconomical was really good, I personally decided to discards WOR from vol 4 onwards, specially the vacuo and mistral stuff which really really rub me the wrong mostly for personal reasons though (the canon wor not your history). Instead I based myself in the clues of the chracters from these kingdoms, so we have a grecorroman with remants of imperialistic mindset with a rich artistic expression but a huge schism and classicism still going around, Vacuo on the other hand I feel it would be like a eastern/new world feel: because until a little before the Great War their interactions with other kingdoms were limited to trades and the ocassional scholars traveling in between Vacuo and Vale, the reason people have a low opinion on Vacuo is because they consider their mindset and beliefs: more based in community, hierachy based on experience and age rather than wealth or social standing, weird and unpractical... because that means they can't very often make trade deals the way they want and they want A LOT from Vacuo, Mistral may have fertile land and arts, but Vacuo has priced minerals and materials that other kingdoms need to develop their land, that also means they are very wary of outsiders and straying away from traditions and commnnity is frowned upon; Atlas and Vale I can see more like in canon, except I imagine Mantle was less militaristic before becoming Atlas and more into research and knowledge, they have the bit of nationalistic pride product of the War, they tend to be more frugal than other kingdoms, but other kingdoms often consider this as a stuck up disposition, and they covet their people's advances very much, thus emigration is hard and very messy. Vale is seen as the kingdom with the best living standards from the kingdoms, strong middle class unlike Mistral, lack of the restrictions and militaristic fervor of Atlas; and more individualistic than Vacuo, but not at the level of Mistral (where every person is let to their luck), however I don't like Vale being so... nice whereas all the other kingdoms have their bad sides, I feel Vale is the perfect place where little grievances fester and grow into big problems due to not dealing with them properly; things like crime rates being low... because crime lords have adjusted their MO to a legal facade where they abuse the less educated and poorer people; faunus are not as looked down as Mistral or Atlas, but micro agressions are prevalent and little is done to address violence against them because it's seen as "isolated incidents", where there might be a strong net for social welfare... as long as you don't have "associations" with less than desirable people or don't exhibit abnormal behavior.
Wow, that was superlong
About the Faunus heat cycles. Even if it is accurate to how they would evolve, I can’t think of many non-fanservicy ways this would be out into the story. Even if it was an evolutionary advantage, it seems like an extraneous detail that would distract more than it helps. I like the rest of the video, but this just stuck out to me
Faunus puberty??
I personally would have made one main huntsman academy on vytal island and have smaller huntsman academy in the kingdoms.
Considering that I wrote all my Remnant history ideas when I had a massive headache and decided to play EU4 to alleviate the pain, I can safely say that I am moderately satisfied1 of your refinement of some of my ideas. I am mostly proud of your interpretation of the Vacuo Confederation of the Free Tribes. Although you should add some more historical figures into this history aside from just the King of Vale. But that may contradict itself along the lines if future iterations of RWBY canon were to add historical figures themselves. Hmm... Aside from that, good job on the complexities of the cultural and political situations of each of the kingdoms. The weird geography of Remnant and the inclusion of THAT Grimm factor must have been a hinderance on your historical interpretations, so good on you for overcoming it!
As for suggestions, I know that you might talk about this subject when you cover volume 4, but I realize only having one religion in the world for Ozpin's secret society to eliminate is nonsensical. I have a couple of suggestions on the religions and pantheons that may have circulated around Remnant and the ultimate fate of each one by the time Volume 1 begins. Do you want me to PM you, write my ideas in the comments section, or don't want to hear for now because you actually want to get to Fixing Vol. 1?
I realize this is nearly a year later but this video is sosososoooo good and you did an amazing job handling all the kingdoms and their interrelations (it even became a little confusing for me, at points, felt like a real history class)
CHRIST, way to put in MUCH more thought then the creators of the damn show did.
My god, I am only commenting 5 minutes, but Jesus...They should hire you at this point.
3:24 Good sir, it's a common misconception that chameleons change colour for defensive camouflage. Most don't, and instead change colour as a form of heat regulation and communication (there are some species that do actually use in for camo though, so you're technically not wrong, I just like being pedantic about this one thing). Interestingly enough, it's octopi and squid that typically change colour for camouflage more often than chameleons.
Also, I really like this series, but it'd been too long since I'd last given it a watch
You know this background kinda feels alive. I honestly can already see in universe memes about King of vail being done with all bs.
Eh, we all know why Faunus exist in RWBY: It was an excuse for Monty to put catgirls in the series. Which, hey, can’y blame him.
dude that was a good video on RWBY history and how it should have been.
Can't really argue with your interpretation; it's pretty solid.I do have some questions, though.
Q1. In regards to Menagerie government, how does it work? I assume it is a democracy, but the show calls him a chieftain, like he rules over a tiny group. Also depending on where the White Fang began, it can be weird he even reached that seat of power.
(kinda unrelated to history but) Personally I think it detracts from Blake's character for her to come from affluence, mainly because the show heavily implied she was an orphan at the start with the whole protesting in rags as a baby thing.
Q2. What sort of specific injustices would Adam have used to justify to his followers that Vale, the okay-est place to live sorta kinda, needed some street justice? What events could he point to as anti-faunus or bullshit laws he could site that oppress faunus? He could obviously lie, but it would be more interesting if it could have some justification.
I am, obviously, not McNeil, so I don't know if what I say would be absolute in the Fixing RWBY series; but I think I can answer your questions... Sorry for the overly long explanation...
Q1.0: When I proposed my ideas of each of the civilizations, I chalked Menagerie up to being like the Five Nations of the Cherokee and that's it. With a little bit of research and some more elaboration, Menagerie is made up of a loose confederacy of autonomous towns, much like Vacuo. In fact, it can be assumed that Vacuo's tribal confederacy is where the newly established Menagerie government drew inspiration from. Now in each town, there is the two governments: the white government (for peace and domestic affairs) and the red government (for military affairs). It can be assumed that the White Fang started out as a small, discontent group that got fed up with the humans' decision to put them in a small island in the middle of nowhere. They eventually gained enough power to become the new council of one of the towns as the white government, dubbing them the White Fang (history is too convenient sometimes). When their influence spread to the other towns through their ideals and beliefs, they decided to merge the White and Red governments together in their town to consolidate their power. The leader of the White Fang, Ghira Belladona, disagreed with the merge. A compromise was made between the Ghira faction and the Sienna Khan's faction to split the White Fang in half and let Ghira rule the White government and Khan to rule the Red government. Of course, the Khan faction continued influencing more towns and even areas outside of Menagerie. Khan was considered the de facto leader of the White Fang. And when Ghira did not contest Khan's power. Khan became the de jure leader of the White Fang as well. Thus you see the shifting of the White Fang flag from white to red in Blake's backstory as symbolism. The Red government's White Fang kept their name for most likely sentimental reasons.
Q1.5: You do bring up a good point of why Blake is wearing rags as a child when she came from an influential family in Menagerie. I can only assume that Blake follows the "Eccentric Aristocrat" archetype. She sees her fellow Faunus of lower class fighting for their rights to be equals, so she feels she must be on the same level as them and fight for Faunus rights as well. Although, she only really protested for Faunus rights outside of Menagerie when her family took her along on diplomatic trips to other kingdoms. It would be pointless to protest in Menagerie, considering there is no one to really protest to. Unless foreign officials come to Menagerie, then she might protest if it doesn't cause a diplomatic incident (so rarely, if at all). She eventually met Adam on a trip to Vale and continued meeting him every time she went to Vale, and thus the RWBY Black Trailer ensues.
Q2.0: I'll try to make this one short. I think the main reason for a White Fang branch in Vale is due to some Faunus discontent on how the Vale government handled Faunus treatment. Both in canon and the Fixing RWBY version, showed how sloppy and incompetent Vale's government is. So Faunus like Adam may not be able to justify Vale's prejudice, but they can justify their incompetence, considering the Vale government just made empty promises for equality and gave them an island to put an end to their complaints.
interesting theory on the government. Also, i know it's in service of the terror plot and all so incompetence/distrust of Vale is fine, i just think that having a really good reason in Vale specifically would help A) legitimize the fact by giving the audience an example B) Paint the White Fang as not just evil terrorists but as terrorists with a motive we the audience can sympathize with making the group as a whole more dimensional.
As for Blake, I gotta a lotta problems with her characterization. When she was first appearing I thought what they were going for was a girl who had been with the WF since being able to speak because that's all she had in the world (because I thought she was an orphan). I thought that, and it explained her overlooking their drifting from their original intent and their radicalization. She wouldn't want to give up her closest thing to a family. Hell, she may have at first agreed with the change.
Her relationship with Adam would be closer than ever, seeing him as a father figure, a mentor, and becoming more brotherly as she aged. Leaving the WF and Adam would be a huge decision. She would truely have no place to go. No allies, no friends, no family.
With her having a family to go back to it lessens the impact of leaving, having the president of fluffy town as her dad it cuts all the emotional impact from such a choice from us.
It still makes narrative sense, it just isn't as interesting of a narrative.
Yeah. The White Fang should have attacked Atlas or Mistral to be honest. I mean we saw Blake and Adam attack a Schnee train in the Black Trailer, so I assume the reason why the White Fang are stationed in Vale is because they want to halt all trade to and from Atlas. Thus making Atlas' companies who uses slave labor suffer, and make a clear message to the world that the White Fang finds the slavery of Faunus intolerable and they won't stop until it is completely abolished (and thus it makes them sympathetic to presumably the anti-slavery audience). Then we get the White Fang attacking Vale using a TRAIN and GRIMM... So that idea is up in the air now. Thanks Vol. 2.
As for Blake's characterization, I completely agree. Her motivations and actions regarding her family, Adam, the White Fang, and for herself is what I can only describe as confusing. Honestly, I don't know how to fix her character ever since Vol. 4 became a thing and just messed up my perception of her. I first thought of her as a self-proclaimed freedom fighter, now all I see her as an edgy teenager who has a lot free time... Personally, I am sticking with my "Eccentric Aristocrat" version of Blake. It may not be the most interesting thing, but at least it makes some sort of sense. But hey, this Fixing RWBY series exists for a reason, so maybe McNeil has something in mind for Blake's characterization.
I thought that Blake was an orphan too, her having parents really bugged me.
Unfortunately all we can do is guess his motivations and history. The only thing that makes sense right now is he originally joined with a motive outside of bettering faunus (money, power, etc.). If it comes out he was a good guy until some tipping point, his character would fall apart somewhat but not entirely.
The question would then become how did he not lose followers and those deserters alert the organization to his polarizing doctrine. In fact, how did that not happen in the canon?
The only way it makes narrative sense is if he was cunning and manipulative from the start and has only had the broken facade reveal recently, but we know this isn't true because Blake left way before the story begins citing issues with their new direction and actions (vol 1? i think?).
I think a lot has to do with what Celtic Phoenix said in the video; they just didn't plan enough and their ideas are just allowed to morph unrestricted and detrimentally.
And him having those romantic feelings for her wouldn't be nearly as bad if he wasn't so obviously disgusting. Like he's comically creepy. I thought he might change his mind from killing Blake to tying her to some train tracks at any moment during that scene where he confronts her in the attack. If they pulled back a little it could add to the dynamic.
It's not my birthday but I'm just as excited when you posted this video. Thanks McNeil!
I only had one issue with this video, and that was when you said "poison" when talking about a scorpion's offensive capabilities. C'mon man, it's venom. There *is* a difference.
If you're a writer knowing what the words you use mean is incredibly important. He's not actually writing the show so it's not important, but pointing it out like Shad0wReaper133 did is what a team of writers or a proofreader would do.
so this doesn’t get confused with people who don’t have a good grasp of biology:
If you bite it, it’s Poison.
If it bites you, it’s Venom.
You prefer people to use the term"bio-toxin". It is fine to use poison as a generic term that can encompass venom in lay-speak.
Honestly, I think it's stupid how there are only four major kingdoms. I mean Vale seems to be the size of Europe and has had like seven kingdom at a time. I really feel like this world it incredibly small. Seriously, how big are these land masses?
My head cannon is that there a lots of "Countries" but they are dominated by one of the four major kingdoms and are considered part of them and are expected to pay taxes and follow the laws of the bigger kingdoms but I agree that seems dumb.
that work ethic though
What work ethic?
*Raucous, Depressed Laughter*
The failure to plan by RT's RWBY team is even more evident now.
I quite agree with your changes to the Faunus and find your ideas quite interesting such as the concept of Faunus going into heat like regular animals. I do sincerely hope you go into a lot more detail about the White Fang in a future episode, though. I love RWBY for many reasons but to me, the most interesting aspect of the show has always been the Faunus, the White Fang and their social/political struggle. As a result of this, one of my biggest issues with the show (Infact, it's arguably my biggest issue with the show right now) is the ABSOLUTE under-utilization of the White Fang in the story thus far. To me, they are such an interesting idea for an antagonist group that should be delved into a lot more, both by the show proper and by you. Maybe RWBY will do so in future Volumes but right now, they definitely need some more meat to them.
As for the rest of your video, I'm admittedly mixed. On the one hand, you made a very in-depth and intriguing history to the formation of the Kingdoms and the properties of each Kingdom's government. I found it extremely enlightening and engaging to listen to the history you created. But.. I disagree with your change to how the Great War started. In my opinion, the idea of an unspecified violent incident that snowballed and culminated in the events that would lead to the Great War sounds a hell of a lot more interesting than your idea which can be boiled down to "The Great War started because of a bunch of trade deal mishaps and political bullshit", especially since RT's version brings up nice parallels to both World War 1 & World War 2. And it gave us the pretty interesting theory, one I 100% believe, that the Great War was Salem's first attempt to destroy Remnant through subterfuge, manipulating things to create this incident to spark the Great War and goading humanity into destroyed itself.
Also, like I said, I found your idea of the history of the formation of the Kingdoms very interesting but I admittedly don't see how any of it could end up being plot-relevant apart from, again, ancillary information in a World of Remnant or something. I think it's a nice bit of world-building and it's awesome information to have. But I do get why it's not been focused on in the actual show, since the formation of the Kingdoms themselves doesn't seem to have any bearing on the show apart from ancillary world-building. World-building is fantastic, I get that, but you can only build the world so much before you end up with the Star Wars Expanded Universe where even the flies buzzing around Luke Skywalker have their own comic book series.
Anyway, long post short, this was a good video. I'm admittedly mixed on some of the stuff you said but overall, you offered some interesting ideas and an interesting backstory. Can't wait for the next episode and for you to delve into the series proper.
Really well done. The clear voice over and good editing kept me from getting lost during the story. Maybe I would have liked to hear more about what the grim were doing during all of this but that's a lot to cover... I'm excited for the next episode. Keep it up man!
The Grimm were eating people.... that's about the extent of what they do. XD
lol I suppose that's expected. I guess that in the world of RWBY the grim are just another enemy people fight during the war.
Celtic Video, Nier Automata, and Chinese food.
#Lifesgoodman
I have an idea that I think is interesting and could fit into the history of Remnant, albiet with some retconning. The Crusades. (I got the initial idea from V2 E1, when the their girl (her name somehow slipped my mind) asks the bookstore owner if he has a book called "Third Crusade"; somehow I came up with an entire story idea from that).
After mankind discovers dust and figures out how to use it (though they don't know it's limits and overestimate it's potential), the nations of the world decide that humanity should try to launch crusades to cleanse the world of Grimm (which emphasizes how little people understood the nature of Grimm). The 1st and 2nd Crusades, though somewhat successful, were mostly small scale, regional reclamations of land around the City-states. But the largest of the Crusades, and the most impactful, was the 3rd Crusade, which sought to cleanse the entirety of the continent North of Vale and Vacuo (I'm gonna call it Avonia for simplicity) (Retcon #1: Avonia is uninhabited by humans in this version, which also serves as foreshadowing to how this ends). The army assembled to reclaim Avonia would be the largest ever assembled in the history of Remnant; I'm not gonna give numbers, but about 10% of the world population, 3/4 of it's adult male population capable of military service, is the scale I'm going for. Though they were successful in taking the southern penninsula, even being able to set up a new city, the further the crusades go, the higher the casualty rates rise. Men needed to be replaced; the manpower shortage got so dire, that a general started secretly recruiting faunusi (who are basically mostly slaves). Eventually, ten years after it started, the crusading army is destroyed, along with the city they set up and all the people who lived there; only a few managed to return home.
The shockwaves from this disaster were enormous; governments tried to cover up the disaster and suppressed any information regarding the crusades; several survivors were ordered by the government to commit suicide in order to keep them from talking about the disaster. The truth, however, eventually comes out; a book commonly known as "Third Crusade" written by one of the only surviving leaders of the Crusades, though banned by the government, gets printed and read by the public; it causes uproar, creating tensions that lead to both the Great War and the Faunus War (btw this is all supposed to be an allegory for Martin Luther and the Gutenberg Bible which caused the Reformation). Because of government attempts to destroy all copies of "Third Crusade"; few original copies survive at the time the story of RWBY takes place.
So there; that's my idea. I came up with all of that from a single throwaway line of dialogue. Any thoughts?
I'm waiting for the day some big studio (at least one with experienced and acclaimed animators and writers at its disposal) picks up RWBY and hires or at least takes critical advice from all these fan channels on RUclips, with the intent to remake the first few volumes (probably combine V1 and V2 with extra scenes added so that episode and volume lengths are consistent) in a more coherent way and then use the remade series as a jump-off point to continue making new volumes.
That's not happening.
I do like the faunus changes but at the same time Im not super opposed to how they originally made em. Gave em that strange air of mystery and magic.
God love it love all this. This makes way more seance
I really struggle with the idea of war even being possible on remnant. The Grimm come whenever negative emotions are present, so how would an army even be able to make the trek without at least a couple of them bearing fears of their own death and acting as a homing beacon for the Grimm? How does that happen? The Grimm seem to be constant presence outside the walls of an empire. So avoiding them once your deployed is impossible. I mean look at the fall of beacon, a little negative spout and everything goes to hell.
Loving this so far. I don't really have much I would add or change, but just wanted to show my support :P
this fixes a lot all your sweat and time paid off my man can't wait until FINALLY we get to the show itself
im assuming you get to the more fairy tale like aspects when you fix the volumes also good luck with volume 1 i know it will be taxing but you shall persist
So much to do, believe me... Vol 1 is going to be crazy...
that is true i would like to see how you set up the main conflict either it will be the white fang or ancient grimm that have started awakening from ages long sleep either way i would like to see how it goes
i think this was necessary, in the real show we didn't get much from the whole "war" thing, just a vague idea of some conflict long ago. i like that you've crafted a good overview that explains and influences the current timeline of the plot while leaving enough open to "fill in" new details later.
now if i may give a suggestion; i was thinking that Blake is the weakest link of the whole show due to her lack of an arc (at least for V1-3), so i was thinking have her be a double agent. her betrayal of Adam at the beginning was something the two of them arranged ahead of time to get her into beacon and to steal valuable intel. but at the end of the first season she realized the white fangs plan is to unleash grimm on an innocent populace of faunus and human alike. so she frees wiess (who was captured earlier while looking for a purse snatcher) and the two of them call for back up to minimize the damage.
also i was thinking of doing my own retelling of the rwby story, would you mind at all if i used some of your ideas here and in the lore video, i think they're pretty good. especially the "great war" part.
I have very little issue with this version of the history for RWBY considering up until Salem’s backstory was revealed it was the least developed past of the story. And even after it was revealed, it didn’t do much to clear up any confusion viewers may have had. Your history actually fits in rather well with both your version of RWBY and the original version. It gives a clearer idea of why the nations are so different and clears up reasons for the stigma that exists around the faunus. I think the one detail you added that was incredibly necessary was the existence of mini nations. Even if they were absorbed into the 5 main nations remnants of them (pun absolutely intended) would likely still remain. The world of Remnant, from what I assume, is based on the same scale as our Earth, meaning that it is much, much larger than the map can really represent. Within the 5 kingdoms that rule Remnant, I would assume that states exist. These states would have different climates, cultures, and ways of living from their capitols and travel to them throughout the series paints clearer path of where the characters are traveling and how long it might take to travel to them.
Edit: Although, as some others have mentioned, the inclusion of heat and
mating issues do not need to be directly mentioned. Mentioning that because faunus are so varied, genetic mutations and disease are common making it difficult for them to have children.
I like this and it honestly helps with my own world building
(even though when it's written down most of it probably isn't going to actually be brought up in the story)
I'm glad this could help!
This makes me even more frustrated that the "professionals" did such a hack job. Like, it could have been a lot easier to make a world that is similar to our history; with a little changes here and there. I'm curious on how Japan, Germany, or any culture would treat faunus.
Anyway, I got sidetracked and went off a tangent. Great video and I hope to see more like this.
10:59 I was actually going to say it sorta kinda sounds like WWI.
I didn’t think of the Phantom Menace, the way you described it reminded me of the real Great War
Can we just accept this wonderful beautiful man as the new rwby god, i want his version
I'm not sure how much I like the 'heat' periods of faunus. It seems like something you'd find in a smut fic. Maybe clarify it?
It's less an insatiable urge, like found in animals.
More just faunus having trouble conceiving outside of determined periods?
I had to laugh that flag you used for the fanus, the orange with the white paw, is my university's flag. Nice to see my alma mater get an unintentional reference. I also really like the world building here.
i can already smell the weed and hear the steel drums in vacuo
5:28 to 5:35 THANK YOU!
I’ve been saying this ever since I watched RWBY!
Late to the party, but interesting video. Only issue I had is that I can’t even recall what each of the kingdoms are. You using their emblems was neat but I can’t ever recall seeing any of them within the show itself.
But regardless now I have another bird RUclipsr to enjoy video essays from.
I’d imagine the people of Vacuo organizing something like the Kiithid Of Kharak from Homeworld are described. Specialist clans united very loosely. Then again, that might just be because I love Homeworld. :P
The groundwork has been set...now GET TO WORK! I kid, take your time. Just dont keep this old man waiting too long. I'd like to see this series complete before I keel over. (Wait you're a pheonix....maybe i can take a feather with me just in case...)
Just don't piss off anyone with a 7 foot sword and you'll be good.
For the Faunus, what I would have done ties back to my comment on the previous video, where I said I would have made humans transform into Grimm if they are filled with too much negativity and hatred. It will also, once again, involve the supposed Gods that exist in this universe.
Since Grimm look like animals, I would have made it so that the benevolent God found a way to restore someone's humanity if they turn into a Grimm.
Essentially, if someone's mind could be restored, then their body would follow suit. However, they wouldn't return fully as a human. They would posses some remaining personality traits and features of the Grimm. The humans could label the reformed Grimm as Faunus, due to the fact that they posses animal like features.
Im building a world for anovel and someone suggested I come to this video, not revealing why. Of course I liked RWBY in the early days so I decided why not.
Hearing all the geopolitical stuff you wrote really helped my autistic brain understand a lot of concepts I read about but struggled to apply, and now I see I have quite a bit content to watch. So thank you and I look forward to seeing how much this series grew over the years.
This is what i imagine Monty had more or less in mind or wanted for RWBY and what i wish was into the show proper... It adds sooo much to the events and characters, really good job, nothing seems far fetched and it still very RWBY-like, just picking any characters in the context of this lore makes it a 100 times better, like imagining Oz being the king of Vale. I really wish this was the level of care RT had for it.
I have a question about the state of Mistral and Saradaucus (Probably spelled that wrong, sorry). So if Mistral annexed after their war with Saradaucus, why after the Great war was it not abated? Wouldn't have there been some rebellion that wanted independence from the Mistrallains. Since they were inspired by the Greeks I'd like to compare it to how the Ottoman empire brought Greece under their wing, only for the Greeks the have a war of independence. It's just how i'd interpret these things.
This was very good and cleared up a lot of unnecessary confusion.
Wasn’t Vacuo a dessert?
I love everything that you have done with this video
God this is so much more fucking interesting than the history or plot of the actual RWBY world.
By the way, I was wondering if you had any idea as to how this new exposition you've created would be revealed during the actual show. Would you give Qrow an episode to dump all of it, would you use World of Remnants, or some other way?(World of Remnants always felt like cheating to avoid actual exposition in the story but eh)
awesome video! The work you put into this video really shows!
I do have a question regarding your Mistral history. It's a minor point that can easily be ignored, but what would you supose is the reason Anima developed such a thriving underworld compared to lesser gangs like in Vale?
Drugs. Asianic crime typically stems from proffering of opiates among the populace, and the mirrors to China and Japan are too grand to ignore. That's at least my stab at it.
i really love the update to the history
This is… badass
Hey.
So, I actually started writing a comment, but then I accidentally went back to the previous video with a wrong swipe of my fingers on my trackpad and I lost everything. Basically, though, I was just saying that I like what you have here, and that your love for RWBY shows through the time and effort you put into making this. Good job.
That said, I do have a tiny problem with one of the ideas you proposed. This may be just a matter of personal preference, but someone else (Angelofdeth20) commented on it, too. The Faunus having mating cycles or going into heat as a way to compensate for breeding and cross-breeding difficulties doesn't quite make sense. Mating seasons would be misaligned and based on species. It wouldn't be all that helpful. Further, the Faunus are supposedly the minority anyway, and so having difficulty breeding in general could explain that. It would also counterbalance their superior attributes over humans. I don't feel like a mating cycle is even necessary -- I'd argue, even, that it makes the Faunus too much like animals and would really only be an extra reason for fan fiction writers to come up with NSFW stories.
Also, I noticed a possible discrepancy with regards to the story of the two brothers and how you then proceed to explain how the Faunus and humans evolved. I mean, I could be wrong -- it's late, I'm getting tired and I don't quite remember everything you said. But one of the WoR episodes say the Faunus have been around as long as humans have -- maybe even a little longer. And the story of the two brothers hints at creation more than evolution -- and that the story of the two brothers is probably correct, in RWBY, at least, because Ozpin believes it and Ozpin seems to know everything. I guess what I'm saying is that you mentioned the Faunus and humans evolving from one point, but if you're going by the story of the brothers, it seems like humans and Faunus were created as is from the start. However, because this subject is pretty close to the real-world debate of evolution versus creation, I'll just say that I can respect your choice if, in your version of RWBY, the Faunus and humans have evolved instead of having been created. I was just a little confused about a possible discrepancy in how you're addressing that topic, is all.
Take care!
Man, I wish I had someone as skilled you helping me plan out my book series. You'd think that after ten years (Well, ten years as of next Sunday, but whatever, close enough.) I'd know all the different intricacies I need to look out for. Well, to be honest here, I do, I just phrased that really badly. See, I can arrive at the same conclusions you do, and make lore just as intricate, but the issue is the sheer amount of time it takes me to ever even get to that point. Whereas you accomplished all this in maybe a month or two, it'd take me a little under half a year. That's nearly triple the amount of time, and it's quite simply ludicrous for these sorts of things to take me that damn long. Not to mention another problem I have is how far out of my way I have to go in a measly effort to think up ways I can better develop and nurture the simplest concepts such as character development throughout my series.
I believe that I have the foundation and workings for something great, even absolutely breathtaking at it's best here. I mean, I should hope so, I've spent ten whole years on the thing thus far, and I'm not even done. I've got so many arcs, and so many intricate plot details that I can really get into and find myself geeking out over despite being the only person in the entire universe to even know it exists in the first place! At its high points it can blow my mind each and every time I think about it, and while I am by NO means an egotistical man, there are moments in this series that contain some of the greatest plot I've ever heard of in my entire life! ...then at many other points it just makes me facepalm over how ridiculously stupid it's lows can end up as. It has inconsistent levels of quality in not just it's story, but it's characters as well.
We have Jiyuu Rin, which is probably (No, not probably, definitely.) my favorite character in anything absolutely fucking ever, and then we have Chloe, which... try as I might, I just can't think of a purpose for her, and yet she still tags along. I have amazing villainous threats such as Memoria or Rekaya (or Jiyuu Rin again), and then... weak pillars of enemies such as Eternity or Slumber. You take the beautifully constructed lore surrounding a shred of the story which rightfully deserves it's piece of the pie, and watch it basically shoehorned into the overall storyline because of a lack of ways to give reasoning to its presence. Then there are certain elements/characters such as Yordan, or Amy's father (Whom I really need to figure out a name for.), which are absolutely vital to the storyline, but... really don't bring much to the table outside of this one, menial thing.
I have so much love and compassion for this overarching universe-no wait, excuse me, it's actually a multiverse-that I've created, and all I want is to see my dreams for it come to fruition. I want to take Maverick's character development, Silk's storyline, Katherine's personality, Mark's overexaggerated parallels to realism, Cassandra's revelations, Stephan's plot twist, (and Gerald's and Aemze's and Quentin's and ...well, okay, maybe I've got this one covered. My point still remains.) and the Empowered arc, and spread their extreme levels of quality around over the entire series. Unfortunately, I find myself incapable of doing this on my own. I mean, at least within one lifetime anyway. Frankly, I need help if I ever want this to become realized. Sadly enough, I doubt that's something I will ever get. Practically nobody is ever willing to help me out with this admittedly gigantic undertaking, and the few that are, are either A)Unfit for the job because their only feedback is "This is flawless", which I know damn well it isn't, or B)They just give up/tire of it all after the end of the revelations surrounding Cassandra I spoke about earlier.
All I desire is to build up my life's passion in a way which I'm brutally well aware I'll never be capable of achieving on my own. It sucks. It sucks bad, and it can get me really down at times. I know I'll almost never be able to come up with ways to make my characters grow realistically over the course of the series, and I know that the greatest work I ever made for these books was right at the very beginning, I know that alone I'll likely never be able to top that. I am very well aware that it takes me much, much longer to come up with basic ideas other masterful creators such as yourself could develop nearly on the spot, and I can both understand and accept that I have never been, nor ever will be, an expert at this sort of thing. Writing just plain isn't a card my hand has ever been dealt.
It just... it stinks that my life's passion, my series, that which I've been completely head over heels for ever since its very inception is something I am not very skilled at making. It stinks even worse still that I can't find anybody who does have the proper skillset that's willing to help me, or teach me their ways, or best of all, both! I, once again, adore my book series, and once the plot is all wrapped up in a nice little bow, and I'm ready to put it all out there, I want to give it the inauguration it truly deserves. I want to do right by it as it has done by me for so many years now, and I'm honestly... scared that that'll never happen for me. Anyway, I've had enough of being the weird, random creeper who decides to pour his heart out onto a RUclips comment that'll, inevitably, end up as lost to everyone. The point I was originally intending to get at is that you're f-in awesome at this sort of thing, and I'm absolutely loving your content thus far. I wish I'd found out about you sooner.
Well... if you've read through to this point in then I suppose I should thank you. You deserve a medal for sitting through all my crap. So... thank you. Your patience and attention is highly appreciated. I hope you have a fantastic day and/or night. (Yes, I said 'and/or'.) Tropic Hawk out.
I read a manga called Dawn of the Arcana. They have creatures similar to Faunus called Ajin, but are referred to as subpersons. They are physically superior to humans, but are treated as a lower rank, thus are referred as subperson. This manga handled the topic much better than RWBY.
Any word on more Fixing RWBY videos? Love what you're doing, btw
Follow me on Twitter and I talk about just about everything I'm working on. Part 3 is ready, just needs some music and a strategic release window for MAXIMUM VIEWAGE! ;P
... Fuuuuuuuck. Okay, I'm one of the people who still enjoys RWBY despite all it's faults, but... God*damn* this is so good.
I like the source for the fauness human tension, but I think the source for the fauness origin could be a more magically induced (although still involving survival or something) so that the animal traits make more sense. Aside from that I like the ideas.
ill have to watch the wor videos again to get a better grasp of what you actually changed but it all sounds pretty solid. the only thing i disagree with is the idea of normal people be "jealous" of the faunes. i personally think its a lot more simple in the sense that faunes are different, and people dont like different, so people treat that different... differently.
It's definitely more realistic now so... Good Job!!
89% Human, 9% faunus, 1% Carlton.... what is the last percent in Vacuo
A well oiled Swedish break-dancing team.
I approve of this. Also, its cool to see you responding to people on just an old video.
Just started watching this series. Wanted to start at the beginning. I have to say, I like it so far, though I can't say I'm a fan of the evolutionary explanation you give for faunus because it doesn't make any sense. Even if we go with the idea that the ancestors of faunus evolved to live in "extreme environments", the adaptations shown are 1. TOO EXTREME (and sometimes redundant, like some faunus having a pair of cat ears and a pair of regular humans ears. Why do they have that? How?) and 2. the traits faunus are shown to having are TOO WILDLY DIVERSE, some have chameleon-like skin, others have dog ears, yet more have antlers, or horns, etc etc. It doesn't make any sense evolutionarily.
Honestly, I think the origins of the faunus would make more sense if it drew on the more fantastical elements of the setting. Like, maybe it has to do with magic, like someone or thing a really, really long time ago decided to make a magic spell or curse or whatever else and cast it on portion of humanity and their descendants became the faunus. Or maybe a god created them, or something IDK.
Wow now that's some amazing worldbuilding.
Now that is how you world build
This could easily be made into a prequel series. If anyone is familiar with Warhammer 40,000 and the Prequel novels of the Horus Heresy, that’s the kind of thing I had in mind; a series of books detailing the Great War, beginning with one about the establishment of the then-current setting and the beginning of the conflict, one about the invasion by Mistrel and the war becoming truly global, one about the ultimately failed naval invasion of Atlas, one about Atlas and Mistrel’s counter-invasion, and one about the last decisive campaign and peace settlements, perhaps even a continuation into the faunus war.
Lol. My friend Ken highly respects you for at least takin' elements from history to a certain point. Though he would prefer the more complex in full swing instead of by design, me and him agree that this wasn't too simple. We're sayin' this on our part because we've done complex lore in the past that are still being thought out. Its fun, but feckin' hard to put down for us both. :/
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I've watched the whole of RWBY so far and I somehow don't recognize that episode....
Volume 4 episode 1. Don't worry, I don't blame you for forgetting.
Wow, I wasn't expecting a response.
Thanks man...
I guess this means I gotta re-watch the whole series in the hope things stick huh?
Or you could just watch the reaction with Fatman and me and save yourself some braincells from watching it raw XD
Ahahaha, I might just do so as well *Subs*
I actually wanted to do reviews on the show but never found the inspiration to do so.
7:06 woah, calm down there Aristotle, that's an awful lot of Eudaimonia you just said.
(Translation: that sounds a lot like Aristotle's idea of eudaimonia)
I absolutely love this.
When you said trade stuff I just thought irl ww1 or any Gundam build up and cause for war
Holy crap...
I feel like I just saw a history lesson
Which is good, I like history always been fascinating to me.
Admittedly fantasy kmore so
An idea I like for something that plays a role in human-faunus conflict is that human cultures in the past believed that the faunus and the grimm were connected, be it that they all eventually turned into them or that they could change at free will and were secretly plotting against them, leading to witch-hunt type stuff.
Wait, if Remnant has combat academies for training hunstmam, aren't they supposed to have regular schools too that cater specifically to those who aim for professional jobs like office workers, business managers, doctors, engineers and scientists, right?
So, where did Nora come from in this version? Nice job on handling of Greco-Roman and Asian influences, but Nora apparently came from Mistral, but she fits into neither category. She's more Germanic or Nordic
Goregeous work.
My only critique. Sorry for the length, I posted this on a message board:
A lot of the plot points from RT you could keep if you're logical and actually show their effects. I.e. Cinder's virus infects and takes down the CCT network- still causes the panic of no communication, but a better excuse beyond "if one is silent than all are silent" (which I get the spirit behind, but is not practical). Then just don't have people using TV or other communication methods. Likewise a lot of the changes he suggests in the videos talks as though when characters said "I believe" or when spouting the most popular theory that they were hard fact (the two gods, where Aura comes from, where Faunus come from etc). Again, throwing in "some believe" more obviously would it works wonders.
Dust can still have tonnes of "flavors", just have 4/5 colored crystals, and every other color as powder that's been carefully mixed to produce that effect a'la paint or light mixing (depending on which route you go down, the one you can't make- black or white- becomes it's own rare crystal. Prob black seeing as it's gravity and it's been done in the show). I.e. Red is fire, Yellow is lightning, but Orange made from half red and half yellow is Haste. Orange that's 3/4 Red and 1/4 yellow is a strength buff, etc. It then emphasizes how important and difficult it is to mix dust, since breaking down the crystals and the mixing are like video-game alchemy, wrong combinations waste good material at best, or detonate at worst.
Shocked you managed to keep the "Grimm attracted to negative emotion" thing *and* have it make sense. I was gonna throw in some addiction style stuff (a big enough source of negative emotion overrides their self-preservation instincts. I.e. the festival's disaster is so wide scale even older, smarter Grimm are willing to zerg rush walls with gun turrets mowing them down- and it works), but your's just works flat.
I'd have kept the Fanus breeding how it was originally, since Faunus not having an issue breeding, plus having Faunus babies even with another Human gives another reason for them to be hated (fear of being genetically over-run). Heat cycles are logical if you have low-breeding chance, but just feels like porn and doujin bait. Plus it seems pointless to bring it up and not show it, and there's very few logical plot driven ways to show them in heat without it coming across as cringy or fan-service-y (Illia initially pushed away feelings toward Blake as her being in heat, etc). I'm far from against fan-service, it just seems a step too far. I would keep sensitivity to light & noise, but the human jealousy seems an odd fit in a setting about individualism and equality, by implying the humans have a reason to be outright jealous as Faunus are better. Even if you include the weaknesses (maybe include stuff like being more suseptable to alcohol or poison), those who loathe the Faunus would not idolize their positive traits, legitimizing it instead as abnormal and freakish. I'm one of the few who thought the "We didn't like an animal-man walking out the bush, and constant age-old conflicts is what kept the racism today" approach was fine- but in addition to the historical reasons you proposed.
The History of the Kingdoms never really bothered me. Though the logic you underpinned to each society is pretty good. Making Atlas/Mantle Socialist rather than Nationalist was a surprise, and I'm unsure if a socialist society would work in the early-days of a society works (but the less Communist/socialist you go the more likely it'll still live, though Nationalist Collectivism could still work in the setting I guess? Or it goes Nationalist post-Atlas takeover). I love how you sorted the Mistral Japano-Greek culture. Your proposal for the Great War is interesting. I did like "Suppress Art settlers vs. Freedom settlers" getting into a war over an island that blew out of proportion, but yours has far more logical underpinnings. I'd change "art show" to some sort of trade meeting or summit, and keep Mistral also abandoning their art, albeit reluctantly and probably practicing in secret still. Your logical explanation for why the King won would make a great scientific reasoning behind the tottaly-not-real-poetry-and-stories claiming he had a magic sword.
Absolutely ''love'' how you handled the Faunus oppression (being born of something logical, a kinda-not-legal contract, eventually evolving into "well my parents always hated them"), and the slavery just being shitty work conditions that won't/can't be dealt with (same reason, for example, the US doesn't tell China to knock off it's shitty work conditions. They benefit from it, can't afford the political tension, and it's hard to prove *with no room for doubt*- and due to the influence of those companies and their deep pockets, it's 100% or nothing). Throw in details of how the Dust companies intentionally screw over areas their mines are in so Faunus have no other choice but the Dust mines, or hop to another Kingdom and be dirt poor there assuming they can even afford to travel. Even Menagerie is a bad option as you're starting from 0, no home and hard physical labor on an overpopulated island. You could assist the shows plot by having Menagerie "at capacity" so they can't even take in their own kind who are suffering.
Keep the White Fang initially being peaceful (maybe even starting as the guerrilla movement proposed in the vid), and you've got gold.
Top work, gonna subscribe.
Not sure if you can keep it PG with the heat stuff.
A mention from a text book, a little in-character ribbing, and you can work around that just fine. Also, I aim for a hard PG-13.
Well in that case, neat. Sounds like a good rating to me.
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yeah
i mean...
unless you intentionally sabotage this
we dont know if manageri is harsh or not. I also dont think it would be considering its location to the equator and the fact desert kingdoms do work out look at Egypt.