Fixing RWBY | Volume 3
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- RWBY Volume 3 is arguably the best and worst the show ever offered. Great emotional and character-based highs contrasted with pointless action sequences and cameos. Let's see if we can correct that, why don't we?
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Celtic Phoenix: *has Penny be infected by a virus that strips her of her free will*
Rooster Teeth: write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!
The fact that even she gets red eyes is wild!😂
This Video: *exists*
Me, someone who has never watched RWBY: _Interesting._
wau, its litterally me
wow, ruby sounds like a protagonist now
ruby was always a protag you POS....same as Korra in LOK
@@eren34558 yes, doesn't mean she ACT or SEEMS like a protagonist
@@eren34558
What does Korra have ANYTHING To do with RWBY?
@@marysworld9760
Careful with Eren, he’s very delusional.
@@matheusdemello2323 omg your right, I'll cover your back can you cover me
Man Cardin's redemption arc is God-tier
Scripted a corny little scene for Taco Tuesday:
Emerald: LOL PvP that's some weird stuff, ain't it?
Ruby: Why?
Emerald: Well, because Pyrrha's metal semblance. Penny's gonna get screwed.
Ruby: Nobody's supposed to know any of that. How did you figure it out?
Emerald: UHH well, Mercury actually figured out Pyrrha's semblance because of his metal legs and stuff.
Ruby: His what now?
Emerald: CINDER WE HAVE A SITUATION
Ruby: Who are you talking to?
I’m begging you, do more of this
My God Emerald you fucked up hard !
Emerald pulled a Tom Holland 😂
Pyrrha, take his legs
This is more of an idea than a question, but maybe during Yang's recovery arc, you could reintroduce her pre-beacon friends, as in your version they're more than black silhouettes. It's just an idea and I don't know how you're going to handle Yang in volume 4 so it may or may not work.
This is a fun idea but what Celtic did was better
“Ash Autumns” had me dying
I can't possibly see what you mean 😏
Since this video is old. I'll just say: I love your interpretation of Neo and Roman,it's actually genuinely sweet and even wholesome. Yes they're bad guys but I appreciate bad guys who are bad but also care for one another,don't know why.
I'm surprised his death stayed tho,I've seen a lot of people disliking that one.
Can I get an update on your thoughts about Roman?
"His death stayed..."
He...
Hehe...
Hahaha 🤣
When I heard Celtic say "Keep moving forward," my heart clenched in both happiness and sadness. I love he used one of Monty's favorite phrases, especially since they used it in dedication to him on the show when he passed.
@denosaur9227 This man (and the sketchy huntsmen) has spent 6 years pouring his heart and soul into a series he loves and you think it's because he's afraid his original works won't gain traction? You know he would've made much more money just trashing the series at every turn, right? People who don't like a series aren't going to undertake a massive fan rewrite with hours of illustration and even animation, just to get a hundred thousand views or so per volume.
This is a repost + reedit of the comment I made on the 17-20 episodes.
So, a bunch of notes at the end of the vid:
1.) I agree almost entirely with your arcs for Ruby and Pyrrha. Personally, though, I would have made a stronger connection between the 2 to make Ruby's silver eye moment all the more emotionally powerful. Here's my thinking: You know how Ruby starts off wanting to become a huntress in part of her romanticized view of Huntsmen? I would assume she'd be a fan of Pyrrha's achievements as a "young hero" in the tournaments. Maybe plaster a poster of her in her room. Have her at first think Pyrrha is unapproachable, until she discovers she's been secretly using her polarity semblance to fix things this entire time (however you would put it; make it a moment where she realizes that Pyrrha is just another person, rather than as a deity figure). Ruby starts approaching her more often, and slowly over the first 2 seasons, they become strong friends. Then, in season 3, have Ruby go meet Pyrrha one last time getting ready for the Penny fight to wish her good luck. Pyrrha does what she did with Jaune, where she vaguely asks Ruby for guidance about what to do about the maiden thing. Ruby, not fully understanding what is going on, gives the romantic utilitarian answer of doing whatever it takes to help others. With all this in place, when she reaches Pyrrha at the tower, the emotions going through her will be much more powerful than a light acquaintance. You did a bit with her and Pyrrha having bonding moments in previous volumes, such as that class assignment scene which I love.
2.) Drop the whole "Adam is still obsessed with Blake" plot point. Just keep him as an ideologue who despises race traitors. I don't think him being obsessed with Blake is in any way a good idea. If anything, make Blake be paranoid regarding him, have her have had more feelings for him than were real, and make her believe she is being targeted by him specifically. Have her paranoia leak over into her character arc next season. Have her believe she is being hunted down and targeted, when in actuality Adam doesn't give enough of a shit to deal with her atm.
3.) I feel the Nora outburst stuff was...well, it felt out of nowhere. I don't feel that was set up in the previous volumes. Unless you are going back and adding those moments in retrospect (which would itself not be a good thing for one to do as a writer; this was the cheif issue with writers like Lucas or Rowling), it doesn't connect.
4.) This is the real big one: Why do you feel the need to restrict your stuff based on current cannon, when you are rewriting that cannon? Take liberties if it improves the story. You said at the beginning you'd only use characters that are in show. I don't remember you saying keeping them all alive. If you wanted to kill Fox for the sake of the plot, do it. The CFVY Book will be out of canon anyways, so will all the stuff in the rest of the show you pointed out. If you have a great idea for Cinder's backstory, go with it. It'll most likely be better than anything Miles, Kerry or Kiera will fart out.
I vouch for this.
I like all of this but In disagree with the 3rd point. I think it'd actively demonstrate how her being famous can be a burden, instead of only telling it to the viewer. Also makes Nora a dynamic character with more depth instead of a fairly static one.
"Ill's most likely be better than anything Miles, Kerry, or Kiera will fart out."
oh how right you were...
16:27 Nora threatening to break some legs made me cackle like a psycho
Taco Tuesday
Also, I left a bunch of commentary on the other videos, but like with most comments, I immediately went to critiques first, and I wanted to take a moment to call out the positives. The production on these is great. You (and a team of talented people) have clearly put in a lot of effort, and it's cool to see some of your added scenes drawn out.
Plot wise, it was really cool that you essentially took an empty tournament arc and put in character arcs for Nora (who hasn't really had one in the show proper), Pyrrha, Penny, and Ciel. These fixes are always really enjoyable to watch, and thank you for all the hard work.
This series (Fixing RWBY not the original) is basically the question: how much can one guy do with a who team of writers against him ? ^^
edit: 27:00 like ... this shows deeper understanding of the characters than anything s5... produced.
"OH? You wanted to make the characters likable and actually make sense? Well, let's see you try and write yourself out of this." -Rooster Teeth about to write their next session
That was absolutely amazing! You did a great job fixing the series so far. With that being said, I have some suggestions for Volume/Season 4.
Tyrian: When Tyrian is defeated, have it be so Ruby is the one that has the chance to kill him, but doesn’t. This will make Qrow being poisoned more significant, as it was Ruby’s unwillingness to finish him off that is slowly killing Qrow. Giving her more character development as she reflects on their encounter.
The Nuckelavee: There are several suggestions that I have for him/it.
- Make it so that after Tyrian fails, it’s the Nuckelavee that’s tasked with bringing Ruby to Salem. This makes sense for multiple reasons. 1, it’s already in the local area so it’s an easy choice (besides, Ruby’s emotions concerning Qrow’s well being will make it a good option). 2, it increases the tension as the Nuckelavee isn’t just a mindless monster but an intelligent stalker, thus making the audience get a greater sense of dread COMBINED with Ren’s experience with the Grimm itself and it’s destructive capacities. A real threat compared to the Grimm from before. 3, Salem practically fully controls the Grimm. Telepathy from a few thousand miles isn’t that big of a stretch.
- Make it more powerful. The group shouldn’t be able to defeat it. Only coming out alive because the aid got there in time. It makes more sense that way, as this Grimm is more than ten years old, give or take.
- Make it smarter. Like you already mentioned in the Grimm Lore, Grimms get smarter as they age. And as you hinted at, more “human”. And seeing as the Nuckelavee is very human in it’s design, this should be reflected in it’s intellect. Perhaps ot waits till everyone is asleep to strike. Increase it’s strategic abilities. Hell, maybe give it the ability to speak, or at least mimic it like the Predator or some birds do in real life. That would make it even more terrifying!
Oscar: Have him and the party go on a train and then have it crash on the way to their location so that it makes sense why their all walking on foot (which is dangerous).
The Atheist Bear
YES! YES! ALL OF THIS, YES!
I don't like the train idea because it is the exact same thing that happens in V6 but the rest is really good.
Also if the Nuckelavee had a demonic voice that said one or two words, that would make it so much more terrifying.
- I still want Ren to kill the Nuckelavee as an end to his character arc. It would harm his character if he didn't personally get closure.
- I also want the Nuckelavee to die laughing. That would be spoopy.
I have one problem with your suggestions. Salem would look stupid if she sent a Grimm to capture a Silver Eyed Warrior. Even if Salem doesn't think that Ruby can control her silver eyes yet, she should know that silver eyes only work on Grimm, and that there is still a very real possibility of her silver eyes activating. In canon, Salem has only ever sent humans or fanus, to capture or kill silver eyed Warriors, because she knows that Grimm won't work.
Shadow Paradox I see your problem with the train in Volume 6, but it still makes more sense than Ruby’s group walking on foot. They would also immediately get introduced to Oscar, which gives us time to know him.
Yeah, that would be cool. But I’d be able to imagine a conjoined masculin and femening voice like Dormin from Shadow Of The Colossus. Maybe do The Master’s shifting voices from the first Fallout game.
I personally don’t think that Ren should kill the Nuckelavee off. His Arc should be accepting the past and moving on, not getting swept up in it.
logic seeker Good point, but it’s not true that only Grimm are affected. Cinder wasn’t part Grimm before Volume 4, so that’s not true. Besides that, it adds multiple layers to Salem.
1: She punishes Trian even more because a Grimm can do what he can’t, making him feel even more worthless and upset and giving extra weight when he ravages one of the Grimms.
2: It shows pride and control. Qrow is defeated. A single Grimm should be more than enough to take the group out in Salem’s mind. Even with the Silver eyes, which as you stated, she cannot control.
To improve the potentially cringy line between Blake and Adam, how about something like “my old friend” instead of “my love.” Although this would frame their relationship in a less abusive ex-boyfriend route and more of a estranged mentor route, which in my opinion would be more interesting. Also Adam should’ve tried to kill Weiss while at beacon. Perhaps this could somewhat lead into Jaques’s decision to bring her back to Atlas. Thoughts?
That’s also canonically what their relationship was prior to the Fall of Beacon: Adam was Blake’s fallen mentor, Adam didn’t give a fuck about Blake after she deserted the White Fang (telling one of his grunts to “Forget it!” in regards to looking for her).
@@thomasraines1396especially since blake seemed awfully comfortable with adam in her trailer and his volume 3 flashback. generally people are less comfortable with asking questions and making remarks to their abusers
I totally agree with that! I would change more of his dialogue to “this is for your own good.” And/or “it was my job to protect you.” Which feels more like what a mentor would say because most of his dialogue just felt too romantically coded.
That was a pretty good rewrite but like everybody else in the comment my two issue is Adam being being obsessive for Blake and Weiss not being connected to Adam and Blake storyline. I know you're going to make an entirely different Adam from what the original done with him my the whole idea of Blake and Adam used to be a couple is so odd to me because of the original imply that he was a mentor to her while Weiss can be easily connected to Adam with foreshadowing to some of the murders of her family.
Yea keeping him a creepy ex is just ultimately detrimental to his character no matter how much you try to spin it best to keep him as her mentor who's lost his way a good man fallen down the wrong path way more Intresting then what we got , but hey at least he's treating him like a threat
I haven't had the interest or motivation to get through any of volume 6 yet but I'm always excited for this rewrite series! Also glad that they're still being uploaded as hour+ videos as well as smaller ones for both crowds of people. Keep up the great work, these have all been consistently engaging.
You got me sad bro, this was so much better at make me feel emotion than the orginal V3, you got me twice as mad some characters, like Blake, Ozpin and Ironwood, this was so good.
I adored everything in this video with the exception of you keeping the abusive boyfriend aspect for Adam. Personal bias for me. Adam wasn't set up for that at the start of RWBY, and even if he was, I personally don't like have the leader of a freedom fighter group being painted as a douche. Not to say that that doesn't happen, there's just such an interesting story surrounding Adam without the bf thing being thrown in. Especially if you keep in his brand across his eyes. I do love that you made Fanus racism actually more prevalent. Last nitpick. Adam and the White Fang only went along with what Cinder and co because Cinder threatened to wipe out his group. Adam, pre retcon, is against sacrificing any Fanus group for a human cause, but will fold if they are threatened. I really liked that about his character and hoped you would have expanded on this.
But like I said, this is my personal bias. Everything so far has been fantastic and engaging and I can't wait to move on to Volume 4!
In Part 3 at the 58:15 - 58:28 you mentioned Pyrrha causing an accident could you elaborate? So maybe it could build up to a moment with Jaune at Pyrrha memorial.
...Cardin x Velvet new OTP please don't hurt me
Anyone trying to hurt you will have to go through me.
@@CelticPhoenix And my axe!
No
Yes
I know this comment is a year old, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this
It would make more sense if Nora had Maiden Powers to complete the Thor motif, but I know it's more thematic with Pyrrha. Minor gripe I suppose.
Who knows what he will come up with. If fixing V4 has taught me something, is that this madman is able to change a lot without touching the bases, which is cool.
The weapon locker rocket cam is the coolest thing I've ever been told to imagine.
Ruby's coma at the end of the season really confused me.
1. First off, I was under the impression that volume 3 takes place in early autumn/ late summer. Or was that just someone's interpretation and not actual fact?
2. The coma itself. The way you phrased it and the fact you made explicit mention of her weak muscles, strongly suggests that Ruby has been in a coma for at least a month, probably longer. And I'm not an expert by any means but I'm pretty sure that in order for Ruby to survive her coma, she would need some outside influence to keep her body alive. Was that actually present and you just forgot to mention it or did you have something else in mind?
3. Yang's reaction. I understand that at this point Yang has fallen into a depression, but why is her reaction to Ruby, after she's been in a coma for over a month, so underexaggerated. If Ruby really was asleep for so long, why wasn't Yang shown to express any type of relief and instead was cold to Ruby.
This was the only scene that bothered me, otherwise again great season. Love it alot, solid character development and portrayal. Can't wait for the next one.
Yang's cold reaction can be excused as depression. I've had an entire month of severe depression once where I'd just sit in my bed starring at the ceiling for hours at a time and when one of my relatives got into a car crash my only reaction was "oh that sucks", which of course resulted in me hating myself for feeling nothing.
It could be possible that in the re-write Aura's allow their users to survive for extended periods unconscious, acting as a very limited substitute for water and food. I would think that they would survive but in a form of freefall stasis with the safety net dropping whenever their time limit is struck, until it recharges. (This would act as an Instinctual effect of self defence).
If this was in effect (as it is merely a scrap patch) then Ruby could survive without outside help, suffer muscle fatigue and not worry her family as much. (In addition I'd assume Hospitals would have their auras Time limit and a rough understanding of how that equates to their time until external help would need to be put in place for the patients Safety.)
you said you are doing volume 4 and 5 rewrtie after watching volume 7 correct?
So, not gonna lie, I just binge watched your entire fixing RWBY series in one day...it was awesome! I really enjoyed and just wanted to say thanks for all the work you put in!
Excellent work, once again. Love the changes and new developments you made, and appreciate the things you decided to keep. I just have a few comments to make.
-While I appreciate all the new depth and personality you've added to Arslan, I feel like a few major things have been overlooked for her character. Namely, the fact that Leo is her uncle. Mistral is known for being racist, so it seems strange to me that her relation to a faunus wasn't brought up at all as a factor in her character or how she's treated. Racist people tend to "spread the hate" in terms of who they'll be prejudiced against, after all.
This is such an obvious connection to me, and one that would significantly affect her, yet it isn't even brought up. Under that context of her being related to a faunus, it also strikes me as rather odd for her to be the one to comment on Pyhrra, Nora, and Ren all not being real Mistralians. I would've imagined that she herself is in a similar position of having to affirm her authenticity. Perhaps you can address this apparent oversight.
-I agree with what others have said about Nora's meltdown. I know you tried to retroactively account for it by mentioning that Arslan's comments got to her, but I don't think that's enough. It's enough for it to be a blow to Nora's self esteem, but doesn't quite account for her lashing out at Pyrhha. I too feel like this should've been built up to a bit more. Perhaps replacing the plush bear thing at the fair with an actual example of Nora being overshadowed, hm?
-While I'm not too keen on you presenting Adam as being extremely obsessive following Blake's abandonment in the tent scene, I suppose I can allow it. You're attempting to keep his previous character more in line with his later character, which I can understand. I'm trusting that the later character arc you have planned for him will give him the depth he deserves.
Other than that, I just have general hopes for what you'll do with volume 4, ideally with things like Ruby learning to work with team JNR, and team JNR collectively mourning the loss of Pyrhha. Especially with the added baggage with Nora.
I look forward to it. ^^
I liked showing Ruby having memories of Pyrrha before her silver eyes activate.
I really hope you can explore more into Yang’s PTSD after the fall of Beacon because it wasn’t utilize at all in the show and if possible I really don’t want her to have a robot arm, She can still be gifted one but I don’t want her to use it,
Thank you for reading.🙏
That sounds cool but how will that work?? 🤔
Saint
Something like this?
ruclips.net/video/ZA7Clb0PSZE/видео.html
@@rosanirodrigues557 that was just rudy and yang bicking with each other??
why dont you want her to use it though?
Years ago I and some other people (children cause I was a child) had this sort’ve class(?) type deal where amputees would talk about their stories and experiences.
One was this woman who had lost both legs after someone intentionally rammed her with their car into another car.
Amputated above knee on both legs. She said that for a long time she didn’t have prosthetics, until she worked past her trauma and went through the work to get those prosthetics. Yang should use a robotic arm
Question, if it’s 32 teams wouldn’t it be four days the event would last? Day one, four member teams but that leads three more rounds, wouldn’t it make sense if it was three members than two than one?
Adam could have said "my partner" or "Traitor,"
Partner would be perfect
Here all of the parts together.i will leave my question for the your remix here as well and that is why didn't you bring Salem at the end.
Does Blake know who Sienna Khan is because in Part 3 of your Fixing RWBY Series at the 55:42 -55:45 you said "She even heard rumors of *him* condoning the actions as well".
Also are you going to retcon Ilia being in the Adam short because their are more appropriate characters for the role i.e. White Fang Lieutenant/Tukson.
I am really loving how this series is coming alone so far.
Though I personally haven't found any problems with this rewrite so far, I am wary of how you plan to move forward with Yang's PTSD. As it was made obvious by Rooster Teeth's rendition, they have no idea of the lasting impacts of Stress Disorders or the differing types of PTSD that could be presented, much less the symptoms that coincide (I would refer to Twiins iink who delves into some the problems with the lack of effort by the writers in her episode and volume reviews).
There is also the concern about how Yang could get "cured" as some media tends to illustrate (ie. Legend of Korra, healing herself through meditation and bending). I recall in a Trope Talk video, Red - from Overly Sarcastic Podcast, called out how because the darkest hour is usually written out as always being overcome for a happy ending, people tend to view mental illness in the same light, that being an external force which can be beaten away given a little effort. This ultimately oversimplifies and down plays how mental illness often works in reality, being chemical changes you have no automatic control over. For most people, there is no cure yet for many mental illnesses and have to live with it day by day. Soft of like alcoholism, it could take just one bad day to fall back on the progress they made.
I look forward on how you'll be handling Yang moving forward, as you are three volumes behind to help set up and flesh it out.
It still pisses me off how getting a girlfriend and murdering said girlfriend's ex seemed to be Yang's "cure" for all her trauma. Hard-core toxic shippers can cry fantasy all they want, but the moment it becomes this unrealistic, I call it full immersion breaking.
Ashe Autumn
ASHE AUTUMN
THINK RUBY
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WHO COULD IT BE
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Christ
Wtf is this project?
I’m invested in fucking Cardin?
I ship Velevt and Cardin, wtf?
Bravo sir, bravo.
Ash Autumn -> Cinder Fall... Haha.
A lot of people seem to not like Adam's "obsessed ex-boyfriend" characterization but I think it would work well depending on how he's handled. What I feel they tried to do but failed with Adam is make him obsessed with power, control, and glory. If this was done properly it would make his obsession with Blake along with his various actions throughout the series make more sense an feel natural for his character.
I disagree him staying the abusive ex only serves to harm his character and is completely illrelavent to Blake's actual arc ya know racism? the white fang? It only serves as a distraction from the real issue which should be front row and center the dynamic between Blake and Adam shouldn't be he's her crazy ex boyfriend it should be to former comrade who fights for the same thing but have different methods two ideals clashing making him her ex just makes it black and white which that's not how it's supposed to be it should be gray otherwise why bother with the racism plot line ?
@@thatoneblackdude3333 in the actual thing Adam wasn’t the abusive ex until the Fall of Beacon, where he makes over the top and hammy speeches about “destroying everything you (Blake) love.”
@@thomasraines1396 yea I'm aware it was a stupid retcon
@@thatoneblackdude3333 oh sorry.
@@thomasraines1396 He wasn’t a CHARACTER until the Fall of Beacon. What exactly did he do of note before then?
The interaction between Ruby, Yang and Qrow actually makes it seems like Qrow cares about both of his nieces unlike in the show where he seems to pay extra attention to Ruby while only interacting with Yang like twice. I also like how Qrow is much more sympathetic towards Yang and doesn’t offer to help her in tracking down her dead beat “mother.”
So I have to say, no question, that this was a very good edition of Fixing RWBY and I'm very glad you changed some things but mostly left the Volume untouched because, honestly, this is the one Volume that really should not be tampered with too much at all. However I will say that I have one complaint, about an opportunity that you missed that, oddly enough, the show did not:
I don't like the idea of Weiss rescuing Neptune with her summoning. Not because I hate Neptune or think it's not grandiose or whatever but because it gets rid of the inherent, AWESOME symbolism of Weiss finally unlocking her summoning ability to rescue Velvet. What is Velvet? A FAUNUS. So in the show, this scene has an added layer because she instinctively unlocked the most powerful tool in her arsenal to save what is essentially the Schnee family's biggest hatred. By replacing her with Neptune, it just sorta turns into a scene where she saves a guy she was implied to like. Which sounds a lot less compelling.
Also I don't know how I feel about Salem NOT being revealed in this Volume but I'll wait and see to see what you do in Volume 4.
Well he specifies she is also saving Sun.
12:16
Isn't it against the law or something to mention "the high ground" without making a RotS reference?
...Why didn't they choice Glinda to be the maiden? This is more of a RWBY Canon question that just dawned on me right now.
@OmegaAlphaDelta 123 I mean, they had a lot of time
Because.
Because they say the Maiden powers pass to young women, and even if you want to argue that the machine would allow them to brake thay rule;
1)they might nit want to risk/test that and thus want to fallow the established rules of transfer.
2) Glinda is a valuable member of of the Ozluminati, and thus don't want to risk loosing her and the fall maiden powers at the same time if this transfer doesn't work.
First off, huge improvement over the original and a lot more memorable. I only had one issue.
I feel like Nora only now being jealous of Phyrra is a bit off putting, I mean she never seemed like she has too much care about getting praised for anything she does, in fact she mostly seem like someone who just loves doing what she does. If she spent, at this point, months with Phyrra she probably knows by now that she's not even into all the praise she gets with how humble she is about everything.
Maybe this should've been slightly hinted at in Volume 2 or earlier in volume 3 where on a mission JPNr all just finish a hard mission yet a reporter shoves all of them out of the way to interview only Phyrra and Phyrra doesn't mention the help of her teammates because she was super uncomfortable during interviews which comes off to Nora wrong. Making it stress how she finds it extremely annoying because this has been happening since the first mission they did together but she just brush the hate more on the media people then Phyrra herself.
Then during the tournament fights with JPNr we see the people of Beacon and (Whatever country she came from I forgot the name, but they cheer for her cause the majority of people still count her successes as her home countries own as well) cheering only for Phyrra with banners and posters. So when Nora did the finisher for the first fight the announcement says something like "JPNr got a slam dunk of a win! As expected from the team graced with the Invincible Girl Phyrra guidance to carry them victory." Which of course causes Nora to go "Hey!" which Phyrra just shrugs it off because she's use to that happening since her presence is always highlighted as a attention grabber (which Nora take in the wrong way, taking it as if she doesn't think it's wrong or care her teammates isn't getting enough credit. But again she sent most her hate toward the media then toward Phyrra.)
Cinders sees Nora's reaction, when we see the news article about the fueds between nations, we see a mini article highlighting Phyrra's match like 'Phyrra making her nation proud by guiding her team to secure another victory in the tournament.'
Making Phyrra seem as some symbol of Beacon having a kind of extreme patriotism. (So later when Phyrra kills Penny she can play it off as Beacon insulting Atlas even more)
This will Transfer over to later when The Girls in round 2 tries to sweet talk ren by connecting to him through his Chinese culture, in order to indirectly make him give them information about Phyrra they could possible use to make a counter-strat to her, Nora follows to swats them away like Flies commenting "I won't let some Sand Hussies get in the way of our friendship!"
Which ren comedically say "I think they're were more focus on Phyrra then getting to know me, besides they're not my type."
Which Nora huffs saying "Of course." before going with ren to get some food.
At least this way her having this massive past Trauma outburst feel a bit more nature to constantly feeling insulted or looked down on while still being shocking that
1. Nora started holding Phyrra's fame against her, with how she gets all of it but she never rejects it or try to shine some of it to the team that's been heavily supporting her. When before she was more mad at the media then at Phyrra
2. That she would go far as potential murder over it, having it be powered not just by jealousy but also the disrespect she felt that the girls would try to even flirt with her friend to only get information about Phyrra and not even think about preparing for her even though she showed off more of her strength in the first round.
I feel like this make things feel more organic with it then just seeing Nora suddenly start caring about fame and glory then wanting to murder someone who did nothing wrong to her over it. It still leaves her with her flaws but it help make a bit more of a build up and pay off and giving more of a reason to why her trauma came up now.
Cause they failed to save a part of the city in Volume 2, you would think her feel useless will pop up then and not in the middle of a on-going tournament toward someone who done nothing at all to insult her or annoy her.
Anyone else notice Ty Lee from ATLA @ 7:36? 🤣🤣
34:29 I get I’m a year late to the party, but Mercury and Emerald vs Coco and Yatsuhashi is one of the best fights in V3
Also would it make sense if Wiess was the one mortally wounded by Adam in stead of Yang?
It could’ve planted the seeds on Adams backstory while giving more character development to Wiess and Blake. it could also be the turning point of Weiss indoctrinated racism. After this she isn’t racist anymore instead of getting over it in one episode. Maybe Adam would reveal his branded right eye to her.
I don’t know if you where planning for this later but it can be hinted that Adam was the one who killed Wiess mom in volume 3 and then revealed later on.
But these are just my suggestions and I look forward to how are you gonna handle volumes 4 and onwards to 6 and beyond.😁👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾
ps: it would really be badass if when Adam torches her by cutting her eye off and after vol 3 he keeps it as a trophy and where’s it on his belt. 😏
why would wiess mortally wounded not make sense? her family tortured the faunus and adam.
Sorry about that typo
Would that mean that Weiss would be the one with the ptsd arc in volume 4 as opposed to yang? Perhaps it could reaffirm her family’s fauna bias, but leave Weiss more conflicted than ever
Matthew Ryan it could be the turning point of Weiss indoctrinated racism. After this she isn’t racist anymore instead of getting over it in one episode. Plus how cool it would be if Adam kept her eye as a trophy and hung it on his belt.
Hey, I know it's been a few months since you commented this, but I've been saying the same for years. I'm making my own rewrite and want to use this. You okay for me to use something like this?
Really good video. I do have a couple of things to say.
1. While I'm not overly against it like everybody else seems to be, I do admit, the whole Nora and Phyrra thing did come a bit out of nowhere, and is definitely the weakest part of this (rewrite/volume/version/banana sundae).
2. While this definitely had the largest impacts, this felt overall a bit weaker than your previous (rewrite/volume/version/banana sundae)(s). It felt not as fun as the first two, which, fair enough, is what the original did, but it chose to save it until the back-half, to give it a kind of shock. Here, it just felt a little drab
Despite those criticism, you did a good job and I will be sure to continue watching
" It felt not as fun as the first two, which, fair enough, is what the original did, but it chose to save it until the back-half, to give it a kind of shock. Here, it just felt a little drab"
Well since you RWBY fans know Vol 3 is the turning point of the show, it's kinda hard to get that vibe again.
"This is where the fun begins" 1:06:30
Cinder turned into Anakin xD
Also, Taco Tuesday.
Q: So how did Summer die in your version/canon?
Thanks to Volume 7, she's missing (presumed dead, but c'mon, we know this show, right?)! This is why I wait three volumes to actually work on a Fixing, I need the information they typically provide! XD
What's this?? Cardin actually has character development beyond being a simple bully? This is heresy! /s
in all seriousness, I really like that you actually try to develop characters... something the show seems to try not to. :p
Raymond you accidently made this unlisted
Great fixing of RWBY so far Celtic mate keep it up we be waiting for part 6 when it happens
29:00 ah, team RNDO. also love that Cardin exists lmao
6:04 As well as the Gundam like launch of Penny in the upcoming Volume 7
I love these videos! They're really well made, they make sense, and they're entertaining! I have been laughing at all the jokes and the editing and Taco Tuesday I just love it XD
This is one of the few times I enjoyed an info dump. These background images had me bawling, especially the ones for rivalry and cooperation. That's one way to spend Taco Tuesday.
Oh yeah, and the spooky foreshadow ghost, and the "Mr not appearing in this scene" censor bar.
1:20:31 I think "my darling" will work
So overall a good rewrite, just a few things (I may be joining your Discord in a few days so I'll probably just copy paste this):
* While I get the intention behind it I think you went a bit far in having every episode contain multiple maimings among the main cast (and some narrowly averted fatalities). Less can be more when it comes to selling high stakes, and I feel this is an example of that. A friend of mine on Discord said something along the lines of how ramping up the injuries can create an air of "Well no sense getting attached to anyone, better pull back now." There does need to be an up and down for tragedies to make them work very well and I feel you didn't quite capture it.
* I did feel the final few episodes up until Ruby's SEW barrage were basically just you wishing for an extended cut of the final few episodes of V3, barring small changes made to nod back to the continuity you'd established. (on that topic the whole pondering of Qrow asking Ruby about Oz's first words isn't as odd as you put it given how Oz is Qrow's boss and he'd probably ask after his niece).
* Something the OG series did as well that you did was not showing JNR's reaction to Pyrrha's death which was a crying shame.
While I feel in short you handled the build up to the tragedy better than the series itself with a particular nod to ABRN's role, I think you dropped the ball a little when it came to executing on it. Still, good rewrite, I'll probably throw you a few quid on Patreon once my paycheck comes in so I can say a lot of this in person.
I know I'm a bit late to the party but your first point puts into words my thoughts on the Adam vs. CFVY + CRDL fight. The gratuitous injuries felt like a bit much, and seeing all this bloodshed I feel took away from the enormous gut-punches that were the actual deaths in the show. Also, simply the choice to include a huge fight between these characters in particular felt a bit out of place to me. I couldn't quite figure out what narrative significance it held, except maybe as a way to conclude Cardin's character arc, which I don't feel was important enough to warrant sacrificing himself to Adam.
1:00:30 Was the somber background music from Land of the Lusterious?
So Ash Autumn (Cinder) writes in the Mistral Times because of Leo?
Do headmaster's have pull over who writes in the papers? That asking for some trouble.
I only have 2 gripes. Ozpin and Pyrrha.
It astonishes me that someone like Ozpin, dies within five minutes. Like hell, the dude's reveal to be an immortal soul makes it worse. How can someone that wise and knowledgeable, a powerful warrior in his first life, dies so easily to a ~20 year old? I get she's a maiden, but Ozpin's death felt too contrived and lazy. Personally, I'd have him survive and mysteriously vanish, to which he'd reappear during Oscars appearance. Make it so that Oscar's family nurses him back to health, and he takes the boy as a disciple. Maybe even have Ozpin sense traces of magic in Oscar. Something like that.
As for Pyrrha, it's not so much her death, but that Jaune should've been there. Pyrrha could've been on par with Cinder, but Jaune's presence became a burden, and it'll have a bigger impact when she dies. Jaune blaming himself for being too weak and causing her death, etc.
- Oz in our continuity, while a formidable combatant, isn’t the best, and during his reincarnations he’s sacrificed much of his magic to create the maidens, which was his real forte. As Headmaster Ozpin, he’s a good fighter, but against a fully realized maiden, he’s only able to delay her.
- Pyrrha is simply not strong enough to defeat Cinder. I don’t know why you think a 17 year old, even with all her talent, would be able to defeat a borderline Demi-god. Logically, thematically and dramatically, Jaune being present would completely undercut the nature of Pyrrha’s suicidal attack on Cinder. Her attempting to stop Cinder is not and should not be about Jaune, it’s about Pyrrha running head first into her own crippling flaws.
Bro came back
47:45 She's right you know As a fighter Pyrrha was carried by semblances and the surprise factor because it was kept secret we see from both the Cinder fight and even the earlier 4v4 fight that when that advantage is taken away she struggles Nora on the other hand fights like a tank through both her immense strength and tenacity she consistently outmuscles and overwhelms her opponents under her own power with or without her semblance. This may be controversial but Nora is also better as a character Pyrrha suffers from what I like to call Gwen Stacy syndrome where she's kind of a wet paper bag of a character labeled only as the nice one or the famous one that is only as fondly remembered as she was because of her death (though unlike Gwen she at least went down through a fight she knew she wasn't able to win but took a chance) while Nora is one of the funniest most animated surprisingly complex tragic overall dynamic characters RWBY ever made even in the first three vols I was just happy to see what shenanigans Nora was getting up to. So yes this isn't jealousy Pyrrha The Queen of The Castle is just trying to assert her well deserved dominance.
Nice.
The more and more I watch your videos, the more I want to buy your book. You are really good at story telling, and are a vary talented author.
To be fair, Ruby isnt just anyone-- Ozpin recognized Rubys silver eyes, likely knew she was Crows Niece, and Crow and Ozpin likely had discussions about how to handle Ruby well in advance
While I really enjoyed this rewrite, my only nitpick is the fact that Pyrrha’s death is the same as the show. Regardless of if the fans liked or hated her death, my biggest problems with it was the fact that she just sent Jaune away without even explaining WHY she had to stay behind specifically, and it didn’t sit right with me that after all Pyrrha suffered, she still got her canon death in your version. I don’t think it’s a bad rewrite, if at all, it’s just how I felt when it got to the scene.
So, my take on it would be that Cinder comes in on her dragon and starts attacking the fleeing students, as Ruby, Weiss, Pyrrha and Jaune band together to try and fight her off, but even with Ruby’s Silver Eyes, they are quickly defeated. With Ruby unconscious, Pyrrha realises and explains that due being the strongest she has to buy them time to escape, and when Jaune protests like in the original scene, Pyrrha encourages him by saying that she isn’t just going because she needs to, but because he, Team JNPR, and Ruby inspired her to both be courageous and that they didn’t just see her as a perfect girl, but a person with her own identity worth paying back tenfold for, as Jaune reluctantly says goodbye with a mutual last kiss before escaping with Weiss and a passed out Ruby. After Pyrrha goes out holding off Cinder, Ruby wakes up in her bed and her reaction to her death would be more gutwreching and sad, with Yang, Qrow, and Taiyang all trying to console her. When Jaune later shows up, he and Ruby talk about what happens next, but it’s clear that both of them can’t stop thinking about Pyrrha, especially since Jaune is worried that Ruby hates him for not stopping the former, so when Ruby reveals a flame pattern on Crescent Rose to honour her and says that she doesn’t blame him at all and knows he was prioritising everyone’s safety, Jaune tearfully hugs her in gratitude and the two embrace. How does that sound?
Hmm... At least for FRWBY, I tried to address Ruby's connection to Pyrrha and integrate their friendship more naturally into the narrative. I would have hoped I built it up properly over the last two volumes, particularly in Volume 2, to make it mean something. But the rest definitely feels like it misses the tragedy of Pyrrha. The _why_ of Pyrrha staying is that Pyrrha feels like she's the only one that _can._ She can't escape the eternal pedestal she's been raised on, something she thinks has been force on her but she has kept forced on herself. The tragedy is that she didn't actually _need_ to go fight Cinder; she could have fled. But to her, in her mind, she didn't have a choice, because she didn't allow herself one.
It's honestly been a few years since I've revisited Pyrrha's death, but your scenario paints it as if she has no actual choice, forgetting the tragedy is that she always had one but couldn't see any other path.
@@CelticPhoenix I didn’t want it to come off like Pyrrha didn’t have a choice, I wanted it that by having the students already in danger from Cinder it shows how much of a risk Ruby and her friends are taking to protect them, and when not even her Silver Eyes can take her down it raises the stakes and gives Pyrrha more of a reason to stay, not just to protect the fleeing students, a lot of which who are injured, but if she flees and someone else took her place they wouldn’t be able to fight Cinder and end up dying without accomplishing anything, so if she doesn’t go, they’ll all die senselessly and by having her and Jaune get to say goodbye with him highlighting that right up to her death, she’s just not some invincible girl that people worshipped without considering her thoughts or feelings, but that Pyrrha’s loved ones will honour and cherish the real girl who had strengths, flaws and dreams of her own, which validates Pyrrha and she dies knowing that she was loved and important for WHO she is, not just WHAT she is. I’m sorry if I hadn’t emphasised that more clearly, but that was what I was trying to say. But did you like my rewrite?
It's that whole "It gives Pyrrha a reason" that I take issue with. The point of her arc is such that she is the maker of her own undoing, unable to step down from the pedestal for fear of what will become of who she is as a person if she does. She's in a no-win scenario in canon V3 and FRWBY. If she flees, she's no longer the invincible girl, she's no longer Pyrrha Nikos. If she fights Cinder and wins, she attains the mantle of the Fall Maiden... and she's no longer Pyrrha Nikos. If she fights Cinder and loses... she's dead and no longer Pyrrha Nikos. She has mentally locked herself into the no-win scenario because she has allowed herself to be trapped in the box the world put her in. That's her tragedy; she is a character that cannot get out of her own way. To "give her a reason", to die heroically in battle defending other people... it robs her of her self-destruction.
As to your writing, it comes off very wish-fulfillment heavy. The mutual kiss, the people acknowledging she's just a normal person worth fighting for, Cinder riding the dragon into battle... And for a fanfic, that could work fine, but if you're posing it as a serious replacement for the scene, I can only see it as a downgrade, since it completely strips her of her character and the thematic core around her that CRWBY did a brilliant job setting up.
Look, it's sad Pyrrha dies in such a tragic way, but yeah, that's the point. I don't see in anyway how this repairs an inconsistency with the storytelling or a failure to develop a character. Sorry man :/
@@CelticPhoenix Sorry for making it come off as wish fulfilment, my autism means that I can’t always express myself properly, and it’s hard to get my feelings across it just didn’t sit right with the way Pyrrha’s death was written in the show, or your interpretation of it. It wasn’t the fact that she died in the first place, they needed to raise the stakes and make the characters feel like they were in danger, but the fact that the poor girl had trapped herself in this “Invincible Fall Maiden” role when it made her uncomfortable and affected her relationships with her loved ones to where she struggled to to tell Jaune about her problems and hurt him in her sadness when he tries to console her, and her death, rather than a self-destructive tragedy, came off like it was invalidating her, like she couldn’t find her own identity in life, be comfortable with who she was, and it felt like, unintentionally, like she brought her death on herself almost as a punishment, that she died for nothing and failed to stop Cinder by any means. So the reason why I had that final goodbye with Pyrrha and Jaune, outside of giving closure to their relationship and showing complete trust in what the other has to do, was that she goes out knowing that she is loved and valued by her friends, not just because of her “Invincible Girl” persona, but for the real girl underneath it all, and by having her sacrifice herself to hold off Cinder, it validates her and it proves that even though she isn’t a Fall Maiden, she still has the courage and strength to delay her and help the students escape. I hope I got across what I needed to say successfully this time.
@@CelticPhoenix I forgot to thank you for being honest with your thoughts towards my mini-rewrite. So sincerely, thanks.
It sounds like when you wrote this fix that volume 7 hadn't come out yet, let alone 8. I wonder if you are going to patch the bit with Penny or possibly say she was "upgraded" to let the aura be in more control than the software. Regardless I've loved these so far and hope to see more.
11:34 where did that come from?
Who was on mercury and emerald’s tournament team if cinder was the teacher
Been watching through the videos again at work, only slightly problem I have with this is that I think Nora's insecurities with Pyrrha could have been a bit more shown before hand.
taco Tuesday and I love the fixings keep up the good work
What about the Dust they were stealing volume two? What video was that
Lmao I got turned into a fox. Thanks for the shout raymond and great job.
is their any point to having pryyra have a bit of the maiden powers then loose them?
To make her actually combative with Cinder in her maiden form. The implication is that Pyrrha with a small fraction of the power is on roughly equal footing with Cinder with the majority of the power.
1:11:42 is that ff8 music in the background?
53:00 Aha!
I hear "Stand Your Ground" from FFXV. I like that.
I love RWBY, but that love has kind of waned a bit with V4 and V5 (though V6 did save it a little). Still, I kept wondering what RWBY would be like if it had more time, and less production and budget issues. And maybe more experienced writers? I found this and binged it in a couple of days and I am very impressed with it. There was clearly a lot of thought and effort put into this. I like how you cleaned up some of the character consistencies and motivations, and make it seems like RWBY and JNPR are actually friends. Which made the ending of V3 that much more impactful. I'm super excited to see what you do for V4 and especially 5 since in my opinion those need fixing the most. I have so many questions like: What is Weiss' relationship with her dad going to be like considering he told her to go to Beacon in your version? Will you make Whitley sympathetic? Will you flesh out Yang's depression arc? Are Ren and Nora going to be upset over Pyrrah's death this time around? Is Ruby going to remember Penny? But, I am more than willing to wait for the answers. Keep up the good work
My problems are with what Adam says, and how yang just doesn’t react to ruby waking up. Other than that, phenomenal work as usual!
47:45 , don’t get me wrong, cool scene , but it came out of absolutely nowhere
Rwby proper levels of “out of nowhere”
Glad I made it. Nice video.
You kept Sage getting the killshot. You even double emphasised it. That got a thumbs up from me. And you'll get another one if SSN gets a decent chunk of development in Season 5.
Also, side-note, the more I look at this footage from volume three, the more I think to myself just how much 'better' it actually looks, not as a moving graphic but as a story being told, than all I've seen of maya-advent RWBY.
I liked this Version. But there are still points left unsatisfyjng. Like Pyrahs belief in destiny and why Adam and the white fang are even into destroying the whole kingdom and f the faunus who live there. Their actions are not clarified
1:08:56 oh you actually just straight up kill roy damn
Hi Celtic Phoenix, Overall, huge improvement. The fights earlier on have a lot more significance which is good. I have one critique, which is not a plot flaw it's just a personal thing which I didn't like in the original RWBY Vol 3 and is still there in your version.
In the first three volumes Pyyrha is my favorite character. Okay, I understand she has to die in volume three, for the sake of plot and emotional impact no one re-writing RWBY would change that. My only problem is that by the time she dies Pyyrha seems like a much weaker flawed, and frankly, less admirable character which makes her death more bitter in a way that's not very satisfying to watch.
In the original volume you're left with the impression that Pyyrha honestly doesn't really deserve all of the hype she's given. In the entirety of all three volumes you never see any fight where she stands significantly stronger than any of the other characters (aside from her fight against team cardinal, but you never got the impression they were very strong to begin with- which you did remedy somewhat in your version of volume 2). During the vital festival Qrow comments that JNPR's success is totally due to Pyyrha, though in the only fight during that season where you see Pyyrha fight with her team, she didn't do anything spectacular at all, it was Nora who took out three opponents at once. In your version, it's not only visible to the audience but even gets stated out loud by Nora. On top of it, during Arslan's fight with Pyyrha, Pyyrha seems genuinely afraid of Arslan revealing her semblance and making her lose her edge as a fighter. This seems odd since earlier Pyyrha gave the impression that she didn't like being a celebrity and distanced from everyone else (the whole reason she was so attracted to Jaune). This scene gives weight to Nora's argument that Pyyrha is self-centered only cares about her reputation and fame.
But I didn't fall in love with Pyyrha's character because she was a great fighter, I fell in love with her character because she was such a level-headed and caring person. She's no longer that by the end of this volume. She's overwhelmed, self-doubting. Despite all of the training and control she's mastered of her semblance she becomes so emotional she can't even have a sensible conversations with Jaune and ends up hurting him with her semblance. I hated that scene. I can have her killing Penny, as that was obviously rigged to happen, but everything else on top of it just makes it so that when Pyyrha dies, she doesn't go in there to fighting a fight that she knows she can't win because she's a hero or because it's the right thing, it seems like she goes to her death because she's trying to make amends for all of her failures. So when even that fails it makes the death of my favorite character pathetic, not inspiring.
Volume 3 ranks as one of my least favorite volumes, largely for that reason alone. I otherwise appreciate all of the things you've improved. (My only other two gripes are that I think it's completely unnecessary to make Penny a closet emo, since her up-beat childish yet wise viewpoint on life was one of the best parts of volume 7; and that trying to make it seem like there was some significant bond between Ciel and Penny is unnecessary and conflicting, since part of Penny's whole interaction with Ruby implies she hasn't had any other friends.)
I like how you changed it where Yang sees Blake unlike in the original where she asks about Ruby and Blake and then opts to go after Blake instead of her sister because of reasons.
Q: what is your canon resin for the 4-2-1 team transitions in the tournament? It still seams like the original to me where there is no reason why a football team would fight with a quarter of their team in the Super Bowl.
To help students deal with the different team layouts that can occur outside of academies.
you said you are going to make vol 4, 5 and 6 rewrite once vol 7 is up correct?
No, he said he will wait 3 years after said volume is done. So volume 5 after 8, 6 after 9, etc.
@@GoodNeutralEvilChaos okey. but you mean 7, 8 and 9 correct?
@@andrewsung3965 no. Volume 7 is done so he's done season 4. After volume 8, he'll do season 5 and after volume 9 hell do season 6. Only when RWBY is finished do we hope for him to finish quicker.
Taco Tuesdays. Yes, that's one major weakness of RWBY's writing at a lot of times. Rationality and logic are expressly ignored to ensure the plot goes through. Don't FULLY agree with how V3 could have gone, but then, if I was the one writing this, Cinder's plan would have had reality hit and end up crashing and burning. I'm a simple person that way. Lol
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Oh shit, is that the Halo Reach menu theme? Nice, really fitting :)
Why hasn't RT gotten premission to use the halo soumd tracks in Ruby there awsome for this
27:10
...She misses Hogi.
Taco Tuesday.
Thats a really nice and thought through review. I watched the singel parts too but to see it in one go showed me how much effort you put into it.
I really like how in dept you go with the other teams. Its very interesting how organicly you connect them with the main characters.
Also its always nice to see that there is other kinds of racism in your world. Not just on faunus, with humanity in unison.
Still can't wait for Volume 4.
This video was funded by his most holy inquisition, this series has the emperor's blessing... spectacular
Seeing that volume 7 is now done how long do we all have to wait to see part 6?
Insanely fun watch, reminds me of novels (of different media types) (in which I've never read)
the idea of patching up a story needs to be meticulous, so honestly I'm glad I can see this stuff in a finished forme
personally the one thing I hate is seeing a half baked series, or a ruined premise, so honestly after forgetting about vols 1-3 from childhood instead of a refresher this I simply take as the truth, if it's gonna be consistent n sh
very fun, I still go to the show itself for voicelines, clips, sound, and such to properly embrace the scenes, even if they take place under a different context than I'm willing to expect
and ofc I go through every fight scene
but otherwise this just feels peak
i do like the long form videos GJ on your rewrite so far :D
When will we expect the next part/volume/season of fixing rwby
Fiskare! X’D Literally Swedish for Fishers or fishermen! Ever seen Nora with a fishing rod?
Taco.... Wenday throught Friday between 11:30am and 3:00pm