AUSTIN LIVE VIDEO RECORDING | FRIDAY JULY 19 | Hot Takes & Hot Wings (2024) DATE | Friday | July 19 TIME | Doors Open 6:40 | Recording Starts 7:00 PM LENGTH | I expect the video recording to go from 7:00 PM to 8:30 PM PRICE | FREE WHERE | 301 West St. Hutto Tx BUILDING | Warehouse in the back off W. Live Oak Street. PARKING * Park in the gravel parking lot in back. * There's an entrance off W. Live Oak Street. * The warehouse next to the W. Live Oak entrance is where the event will take place. HEADS UP: The event is being held in a meeting space at a church. It is the same space where last year's Hot Takes and Hot Wings was filmed. It is not a church event in any way. But I wanted to give you a heads up in case that's something you might be sensitive to. It is an all ages event. I'm excited to talk about some hot takes while eating some scorching hot wings with @king3rd
Dude this movie was LITERALLY made by a misandrist director and half the cast in there were also misandrists AND racists. Which is why the show was so bad. Because there werent any motives, it was just "boys drool women rule" or smth like that XD
Sending death threats over Star Wars shows how broken we are as a society. They are giving these entertainment products the same power as religions or politics. Absolutely insane
Agreed completely, it is giving the wrong message to the correct directors / writers that are needed to bring Star Wars back to where it needs to be because of the fear that it’ll justifiably destroy their career, regardless of an objectively good or bad product
The main problem between all of the hostility about topics is the Internet. There are no real consequences to being rude. That being said, I'm not a fan of the Acolyte and where the Star Wars franchise has been going for a while; sending death threats over opinions is ridiculous for both sides of this
True. SW fans unfortunately have always been toxic. Back in the day, SW purists would bash you if you liked any other film other than Empire or New Hope @@user-bt9yh8jn1q
Some people really need to understand that the jedi being arrogant and flawed doesn’t justify them being utterly incompetent, specially when several jedi have been brutally slaughtered in a matter of days, Yoda and Windu were convinced the sith was back and all it took was Maul killing a single jedi
I agree, however, Nerd Cookies on her channel say that the writing especially Dave Filoni is not up speed. I have to agree. He did the animated series but he is finding the transition to live action is not easy.
The Jedi genuinely believing Sol did all the when it was speculated several times that Mae had a master, and the murders started while he was still in Coruscant is beyond stupid
@@Just_Jac0b indara was murdered while sol was training younglings in the jedi temple and he still gets blamed for all the deaths lol this show is complete garbage
It honestly feels like the writers themselves have a weird lack of morals where they dont even know what a broad right and wrong is, so it translates to confusing characters and oddly promoted themes that goes directly against what Star Warsnis
They were trying so hard to paint a Jedi Bad narrative. But Sol is the only character on this show who dies and seems like an actual good guy its so badly written.
@@jeromevaleska2014 really? The show takes place in an extremely short amount of time. And the flashback episodes were an absolute waste. And there were no subplots. If you made this into a movie, OSHA becoming the strangers apprentice could easily happen at the one hour mark. And the next hour would be about the fallout. Maot fiction is like this. Not everything needs a three movie story arc.
@@xjoemallardx just look at Batman Begins and TDK. They’re fast paced, dramatic, and thrilling. First hour of both those films tells the same time span as The Acolyte. And with more characters and subplots
I suspect that actors who were fans of the series asked too many logical questions about the story's plot holes and THAT is why Leslie started looking for staff who didn't enjoy the series.
I could not be more disappointed with this show. The finale was very underwhelming, and it felt sooo rushed. Osha turned so fast and was okay with being around the very person that killed his childhood friend and a girl she had interests for, now she's just okay with that. Basil's intentions was very odd considering not long before he attacked Mae lol, now he's stopping Sol.... and they manipulated us as viewers, at the end of episode 6 Sol had something "very important" to tell Mae, the. Episode 7 we see that Mae was there for the whole thing so we was here thinking "what else will he say to her she doesn't already know" the. Episode 8... he's just sitting there!!! He literally said he was about to tell her the truth, then sits down and doesn't talk and then says he's waiting for the jedi to come.... this entire show has been like this and it's extremely frustrating 😤. This show has gotten a BIG Fat F grade for me, first star wars project to get one for me. I can't emphasize how much I detest this show, I even defended this show for a while and was excited before it came out only to not have any emotions whe. Seeing plagueis because of how bad of a show this had been. This show has okay moments, but very few. I started to really hate Sol as a character after 6 and 7. I hate the moral of this shows message.... evil wins, do what u want and u will be happy.... do good, well then u lose. Anakin did what he wanted and look at where that got him, What about Luke, oh yeah he lost his arm. No consequences in this show for these terrible acted characters of Osha and Mae. And then qimir, why not, he's cool, sexy and strong, sith rules, be bad kids... whatever
100% agree, and ironically my favorite performance from a woman in the show was the minor character jecki, probably because the actress was genuinely talented and like able
I've heard that a lot of Star Wars fans have walked away from the franchise and they have said that they are rewatching the first 6 Star Wars Movies and focusing on Star Wars Legends content nowadays.
@@youtubeconnollyfamily I don't mean to be a jerk and I'm sorry, if I am, but that's complete and total bullshit. There is a good possibility that the fans would come back, if they got rid of Kevin Feige. The fans hate him and for good reason. That stupid hack destroyed The MCU and turned it into The M-She-U. Marvel is not going to get back on track as long as that brainless moron is in charge. Kevin wasn't ever lost, he's an idiot who doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and as a result destroyed Marvel. If he was smart enough to do his job, then he wouldn't need to bring The Russo Brothers back.
It basically romanticizes the dark side by justifying vengeance over a good guy’s mistakes. It, and also misunderstanding the fall of the Jedi order. They fell due to arrogance of how much they became involved in politics and less with the force, not due to explicitly being evil and doing bad things. So pretty much, this show is romanticizing the dark side by turning the good guys evil (which is character assassination btw), saying that it’s okay to do bad things whenever the good guys do bad things, even if all of the actions that these characters make don’t make sense and are forced due to the bad writing of the show.
I'm not that familiar with the lore. But the two obvious ways to portray the fall seem like 1) collapsing due to being corrupt, incompetent, or brittle. or 2) Being professional, dedicated to ethical excellence and needing a god-tier villain to topple you or slowly pull you appart until you're completely subverted. The Jedi having integrity would require that a Sith villain be cunning and powerful. If the Jedi are keystone cops, then the Sith suck for not being able to run rings around them. I agree with the moral framing of it. But it just seems like chipping at the Jedi chips at the Sith and undercuts tension. In the original, Vader was an absolutely awe-inspiring figure. It required excellence from Luke to be remotely on the same level.
This started with TLJ. Star Wars used to be a series that everyone could like, but that film decided to touch on the current culture war and take a hard stance on one side, while humiliating and destroying classic characters to vilify and spite the other.
@@OrthoLou Why blame it on the movie and not the actions people take because of it? Accountability for how the fandom acts is in the hands of the fandom.
Ryan the problem that you are seeing is that Disney is a "Monopoly". It has too much power. This why President Theodore Roosevelt campaign against such things in business. Funny how history is repeating itself.
@@OrthoLouno, it started with TPM. Sadly, middle aged fans set this tone at the time and then RUclipsrs caught on to the popularity of negative nit picking videos and here we are.
Man I’ve never heard you talk so frustratingly before, I haven’t seen it but seen RUclipsrs talking about how it changes the cannon to Star Wars. The only thing I don’t like about the idea is there are good and bad in the world, you can’t say everyone is good with different views. That’s not how writing good and evil work. Great video Sean
@@justinpatton6996 totally. the other thing is that they're presenting things that are self-contradictory on their face, It's called "going to the dark side" for a reason, because it involves embracing hatred, fear, etc. And they literally show visual signifiers of evil such as corrupting a lightsaber to red, wearing dark and sinister clothing, wearing an evil looking helmet, etc. but then soft music is playing and the girls are hugging and crying like it's a wonderful journey of self-discovery that Osha's about to go on. Makes no sense!
The shows biggest problem is the pacing. It spends 4 episode doing nothing, then has very interesting stuff in episode 5 and most of 6. But 6 also has a boring subplot, then any momentum the show built up was killed by episode 7 being another flashback, which leads to episode 8 having a lot of ground to cover and by the end a lot of the most intresting questions font get answered. For cryimg out loud 25% of the show is flashbacks, thats a problem.
Thanks for taking a rational view of the show Sean. To be honest, I rarely saw any of the people saying “you’re racist for not liking it” or there are “no valid criticisms for the show”. Personally it always felt like people would hyperfixate on the “wokeness” of the show and not actually share criticisms. That said, I have seen it. Perhaps I spent my time on the internet where behavior like that wasn’t as prevalent on one side as it was the other. That said, I thought the show was pretty bad, but with a few stand out moments.
@@cooperwolfe5478 Yeah, same. Plenty of people had legitimate criticisms, and from my experience most of those people weren’t the ones getting hate. They definitely did get some though and it’s not fair that they got lumped in with a bad crowd
@Condor-gb1xp Yeah, I can tell you sit in your own echo chamebers most of the time. This is ALL I saw anyone who defended this show say. I don't think I heard any defense for the show having to do with anything that was actually about the show..! Dude, the lead actress made a full-on diss track calling fans ists and phobes LOL are you delusional..? Meanwhile, every RUclips review I watched critiquing it always had to include the obligatory, "If you enjoy, fine, that's great!" line to save hurt fee-fees.
I completely agree, Sean’s review really resonates with me as well. I thought the show had some decent stuff and the big budget made it watchable, but very disappointing
@@OrthoLou Like I said, I don’t think the show is very good, and I could care less what the actress does in her free time The only “echo chamber” I’ve been in is filled with people screaming that the show is woke garbage while name calling people when they give it even a little credit e.g. one fight scene was good. The diss track you talked about was cringe (just looked it up) but I think most people wouldn’t want to be associated with that for giving the show a little bit of credit.
As someone who has enjoyed a lot of recent Star Wars, this was easily the worst Star Wars project I've seen in years. Worse than BOBF, Kenobi, AND Rise of Skywalker, which was my previous worst. The writing was all over the place, the characters were baffling in terms of why they were doing certain things and the mystery element was not a mystery in the slightest. Unlike other people though, I'm still looking forward to stuff like Skeleton Crew, Andor season 2, Ahsoka season 2 regardless of this.
@cooperwolfe5478 yesss. Last Jedi was good for me, so when Rise of Skywalker destroyed everything that movie set up, it easily became my most hated project. But somehow, this show was worse lol
I agree, I’m still excited for Star Wars. Although that excitement is very low, I want to know what happens with Thrawn and all of that stuff. This is the worst Star Wars though, and I bet that young Jedi children’s show is 10x better than whatever the acolyte was.
This is honestly for the first time, I've ever been so frustrated with any Star Wars project, and this is coming from a guy who doesn't like films like The Last Jedi or Rise Of Skywalker. The finale was so confusing, so all over the map, and at the end of the show, I thought to myself... this doesn't feel like Star Wars. It felt like a fan film or fan fiction, and the Rise of Skywalker was nothing but fanservice after freaking fanservice! And to be brutally honest, I was completely down for a different time period and a murder mystery, but not only did the writing not make any sense overall... but they freaking included Darth Plagueis, the grey creature in the cave in the finale (yes, it has been confirmed), and the final shot showed Yoda! And don't get me wrong, I love Yoda. He's my favorite Jedi, and I get he's still exists because in Jedi, he was 900 years old... but you really didn't need Yoda to be there! He amounted to nothing except freaking sequel baiting for a second season! So, in trying so hard to move away from the established characters and trying to create something unique, they failed on BOTH accounts! I wanted to like this project, but because the writing and dialogue were all over the map, it's just an incoherent mess! However, is this the worst thing ever made? No, not really. I've seen things like Velma, Tusk, Freddy Got F**gered, Fant4stic, Winnie-the-Pooh: Blood and Honey, and a bunch of other things that are far worse than this, but this is definitely one of the weakest and wasted potential thing I've seen come out of Star Wars.
The one part about this, its is SO stupid, we are barely getting out of the original films, because its a Palpatine reference, you know Plagueis? So will we get a Sheev character next season or third season? Oh now we are back into the films AGAIN. Its so frustrating.
@@Melodicroger No, it definitely is. Crapolyte makes stuff like The Last Jedi, Rise of Skywalker, Book of Boba Fett, the Holiday Special, etc. look like masterpieces in comparison 💀
This review was so well thought out and objective, this encapsulates how a lot of the fan base feels perfectly, thank you very much for mapping this out for us all
This show could've been a 90 minute special with some proper direction. But the storytelling was all over the place. And it's heartbreaking that it absolutely breaks the lore it's supposed to be a part of.
I thought the show had a good start, but I genuinely felt the sense that they crammed too much into the end to set up season 2, or another show. Lots of people say that about Mando and the other Star Wars live action shows, but I felt that waaaaayyyyy more in this show than any of those others combined.
And this is why " the creator" ( i use that term very loosely ) wanted people working on it not to know anything at all about SW. A big pile of steaming doggy doo doo.
0:03 Also, is it just me or is the sun hot? On a more serious note, I like how Sean Chandler is one of the few rational people on the internet who isn't just a screaming lunatic attacking people and actually cares about giving his honest opinion. 23:57 I know why, It was brought to you by Jedi Propaganda Inc., Or if you want the actual reason it said that, it's because George Lucan didn't know the fact that this show would have a hate boner out for the Jedi.
I think this was a good to decent finale. And a good to decent show overall. It's far from perfect. Some stuff really needed more time to breath and there a few scenes that really needed an explanation, but I still enjoyed watching the show overall despite my issues with it. Still above above Book of Boba and Obi Wand for me (even though more individual moments were stronger there) I would probably put it on the same tier as Mando season 3(but a bit above). Both are seasons were the ideas are better than the actual execution, but I still overall enjoyed the seasons. I hope it gets a season 2 and can improve in these aspects.
It's the textbook definition of wasted potential. For every one fantastic idea, there is one badly written scene with terrible dialogue. For every one amazing action scene, there are 5 other scenes that do not work. For every one great character in Sol, there are other characters that hinder the show such as Mae and Osha. For every intriguing moment, there are dumb moments that make the show unintentionally goofy. I wanted to love this show, but I ended up walking away disappointed because the potential for something amazing was there. Unfortunately, the show squanders all of the genius concepts for a mostly uninteresting show. It only "gets good" in the 5th episode and the last episode, with sprinkles of greatness elsewhere. It's still a watchable show and nowhere near as bad as others say, but it is still one of the worst Star Wars shows that Disney+ has put out, only topping Boba Fett, making it the 2nd worst show. It would have worked better as a 2 1/2 hour movie as opposed to an 8 episode series (a common theme among many Disney+ shows).
Well, I will tell you one thing. The people who choose to not give constructive criticism of the film and instead choose to insult the creators of the series would be the first ones to turn to the "Dark Side" if ever they became Jedi for a brief time in this galaxy far far away. They're morality is all shot to hake. That's why I'd rather just concentrate on the quality of the story alone. I never take it to the cast or crew because I don't know them personally and it's right to treat others the way you would want to be treated. I want to be treated with Love because Love feels good. But Hate..... feels awful.
I actually thought the tragedy of the story came through at the end, I never got the impression of Osha going through any kind of ‘wholesome’ catharsis when she killed Sol either. Her joining Qimir and returning to his planet had no sense of victory or affirmation, especially since she decided to abandon her sister to keep their secret, not to mention she and Qimir are now outcasts.
it's not portrayed as tragic because her and Qimir are given a romantic looking out into the sunset moment, which is historically or stereotypically a "happily ever after" kind of shot. Also, her and Mae are given this heartfelt teary eyed reunion where they make up. Nothing about Osha's evilness was portrayed as tragic or bad, it was portrayed as a cathartic happy ending for her. Maybe if they saved the Plageus shot AFTER the sunset shot, we could sense that Qimir and Osha's doom is impending. But it just wasn't portrayed that way, which is bizarre.
@@voyager451 that maybe a romantic moment for them but it’s clearly not a happy ending. It’s a dark ending. Ominous in fact because we’ve seen how powerful Osha is now she’s joined forces with Qimir. Osha and Mae making up is a happy of itself but that’s it. Remember who is lurking in the cave behind the sunset shot! Think more about it. It’s a bleak dark ending. I get that bleak dark endings are not common and it seems some people are struggling to process it. Lovers in darkness. Or you’re saying dark force users can’t feel love? Letting feelings flow is a key part of the dark side.
It's WILD to me people are confused about this. The Osha and Qimir "romance" is going to end in a Romeo and Juliet style tragedy AT BEST. Read some context clues, folks. The show shouldn't have to spell this out in crayon.
sean, this is a brilliantly honest review, as a star wars fan I resonated with everything you said, what a mess and what an absolute shame, this could of been amazing.......season 2 is a NO from me, I don't want yoda a part of leslye headache's vision.
I share many of the criticisms of the show with you. Regarding the toxic discourse and trolling - that's the part of the modus operandi of the fandom menace - to make the discourse so toxic, no one sane will want to partake in Star Wars. With trolling they make the other side lose trust in good faith of the critics, and it radicalizes the defenders, which ironically makes them undermine their own points. As for the show, I agree wtih everything else you stated except the fact that all Jedi were not portrayed as wrong and corrupt. Surprisingly, it's individuals here that were portrayed as wrong, and much of the reasons they were wrong is that they betrayed the values of the Jedi - Sol is way too emotional and creepy, which causes him to be wrong. But I agree, Osha joining Qimir is showed to be too much of a good thing. Which bothers me a lot.
A true detective style murder mystery with Sol and Osha hunting qimir would have been far more interesting. They could have exposed some corruption with qimir being the former padawan of Venestra and that would have accomplished the goal of showing some cracks forming. They could have avoided getting creatively blocked by having to adhere to lore they tip toed around ruining this entire show in so many ways.
I was excited about the murder mystery, but, writing-wise, the mystery aspect of this show was on par with Scooby Doo. In regards to the unknown Sith, they wrote themselves into a corner where there was literally only one possibility on who could it be. When you can decipher the culprit by simply knowing who hasn’t been in any of the fight scenes, then that’s a problem.
You perfectly explained the exhaustion that accompanied this show. As someone who didn't "hate" it, had plenty of issues with it, but saw some good things here and there, finding other people who didn't feel extreme one way or the other, and were capable of having a nuanced discussion is incredibly difficult.
Quick thing. Her saber turned red unlike Anakin’s in ROTS because Mae cracked the saber and revealed the kyber crystal which allowed OSHA’s emotions to bleed into it. This type of bleeding a crystal red is canon as of 2017. Lol found that out yesterday.
I think Sean has perfectly summed up how I've felt about this show. I didn't like this show. I thought it was awful but I WOULD NEVER attack someone for liking something or disliking something and neither should any person. Star Wars captured my imagination, as it did with so many other fans across the world and while some projects over the last few years haven't exactly worked for me, I still appreciate the films I fell in love with. Thank you Sean. You're amazing!
I’m baffled as to why they involved Yoda in this fiasco. As the most powerful Jedi, he should have sensed that the Jedi were dying and that the truth was being covered up. The show made Yoda complicit in the cover-up, tarnishing his reputation. Bear in mind, this is considered canon!
*Most* *Predictable* *Murder* *Mystery* *Ever* Qimir is Smilo Ren ☑️ Sol kills Aniseya ☑️ Sol dies ☑️ Jedis covered it up by lying ☑️ Vernestra is Qimir’s former master ☑️ Osha will be Qimir’s acolyte ☑️ Even the cameo appearances from Plagueis and Yoda didn’t feel that shocking although seeing Plagueis did give me an OMG moment. Look, it’s Ebony Maw from Avengers: Infinity War who Tony Stark called Squidward becoming a Sith Lord in the dumbest whodunit series ever! I just think the writers were several steps behind the viewers. It’s like the writers are trying to spell the word cat or dog on paper and the viewers has to keep helping them with that spelling. The viewers already filled in the blank faster than they could. The only thing that did surprise me was Vernestra throwing Sol’s dead body under the bus like that. Still not as surprising as that pop song during the end credits from Ep. 7. With all that said, I actually like this episode. Pacing felt a lot better. Another fight scene between Sol vs. Smilo. I did feel some tension in it being it was 46 minutes and not 32 minutes of Ep. 4 and 5. I like it enough but I’m not saying I love it. It’s still severely flawed but this might be the most enjoyable episode I saw so far. More than Ep. 5 because it did close some loose ends and it did have a little more emotion. I will give it a B-. Not from a logic/writing standpoint, but from how I feel about it. Let’s rank each SW series’ finale… Finale Rankings 1. The Mandalorian S2 2. Andor 3. The Mandalorian S1 4. The Mandalorian S3 5. Obi-Wan Kenobi 6. The Acolyte 7. Ahsoka 8. The Book of Boba Fett Star Wars B*TCH Theory whining about Plagueis’ appearance. Your hack writer, George Lucas, ripped off Christianity, bro. Jesus Christ’s story has been around for over 2000 years. Anakin’s immaculate conception story is around 25 years. Then George based the Force on Taoism. There are still some parts that didn’t make sense. First off, Mae was at it again. When Sol is ready to explain something important, Mae does something to prevent him from saying it. I thought the whole point of Mae boarding the ship was to kill Sol? Now she’s trying to escape. Didn’t it feel like The Stranger turned back into Qimir in this episode as if Manny Jacinto became more of Osha’s sidekick by letting Osha do what she wants? It’s his own ship and it felt like he took the Chewbacca role. And Osha turning to the dark side happened faster than Anakin in Revenge of the Sith. The ending was a ripoff of No Way Home. Since when did Qimir have powers to erase memories permanently? How did he become Men in Black/Doctor Strange all of a sudden? He was reciting the same words Palpatine said in Return of the Jedi. And WTF are Qimir and Osha holding hands for? She glances at his dong a few times and she liked what she saw? Didn’t he kill her friends? I think Episode 7 was so disappointing with the “big reveal”, it didn’t matter how good Episode 8 would be. Episode 7 put the nail in the coffin for this series. The writers turned Sol into a dumbass like them. Why not have Sol report it? The lie was their biggest sin and they all had to die because of it. Sol could’ve just said he killed Aniseya out of self-defense. The witches were the aggressors. While Sol and Torbin did initiate the confrontation because Sol was so eager to protect the kids and wanted a padawan of his own, and Torbin was homesick, killing Aniseya was NOT from malicious intent but from self-defense. I did not see one moment to make me believe the Jedi are evil except that group lied about it and then Vernestra lying about the entire story. Who knew Leslye’s wife would end up being the most unlikable and despicable character in her own series even surpassing Schizo/Bipolar Mae who now has amnesia and Koril who didn’t reappear. What Vernestra did to her old friend was so wrong. Blame everything on him when all he was trying to do was protect kids from a religious dark side using witch cult. But I guess she lied to get Senator Rayencourt off her back. That might be the weakest group of Jedis of all-time: Sol, Indara, Kelnacca, Torbin and toss in Yord and Jecki. Some were given some of the dumbest motives ever. So many of these characters as Sean Chandler said had wildly inconsistent characterizations. They can go out of character from a drop of a hat. We saw it with The Stranger in the finale. He went back being Qimir and tagging along with Osha and Mae. From main villain to sidekick! Qimir is a submissive character. Osha said no to him twice and he was cool about it and he still let her pilot his ship. So Qimir is as desperate for a pupil as Sol. Almost like he needs to act like a simp to Osha to be his pupil. I will still defend what Sol did but not what Vernestra said after he died. But I guess Vernestra is the Palpatine before Palpatine. She’s a phantom menace among the Jedis. Great acting by Lee when Sol was killed. I felt that. I was sad. Not so good acting from Amandla, the worst actress in the series portraying two unlikable, uninteresting characters. Even Bazil turned on Sol at the end! Nobody is loyal. Everyone changes their personality and motivations every 20 minutes or so. Osha said no to Qimir twice and then she’s willing to train under him if he erases her sister’s memories and then hold his hand at the end. Nobody knows WTF they want in this story. Indara could’ve prevented the entire thing by saying NO to Sol, end of story. The series didn’t need to have 8 episodes. Ep. 3 & 7 and Ep. 4 & 5 could’ve been combined. We didn’t need to waste 30 minutes from Ep. 7 rehashing the events from Ep. 3 from a different camera angle. Or just make each episode at least 45+ minutes long which can flesh out the characters and story better. Reason why I’m more invested in HOT D and The Boys’ characters is because their episodes are usually over an hour long. The Acolyte was structurally flawed from the get go. Pacing is all over the place. Same with the character motivations as if their personality needs to change instantly because the script demanded them to. Some episodes were too short to tell us anything and other times they dragged while still being a short episode. Character Rankings 1. Qimir / The Stranger 2. Indara (Trinity didn’t deserve to die!) 3. Sol 4. Jecki 5. Yord 6. Aniseya 7. Torbin 8. Bazil 9. Pip 10. Osha 11. Koril 12. Mae 13. Vernestra Series Rankings 1. Andor = A- 2. The Mandalorian = B+ 3. Ahsoka = C 4. Obi-Wan Kenobi = C- 5. The Book of Boba Fett = C- 6. The Acolyte = D I’m a little sad that The Acolyte did end. Not because I want to see more shit writing and bad acting from Amandla but because the hate watching grifters will no longer have comedy material for us. It was a fun 6 weeks from June 4 to July 16. But we still got 3 more episodes of House of the Dragon, 1 more episode of The Boys S4 tomorrow which coincides with Cobra Kai S6 Part 1 and Twisters, and we got Deadpool & Wolverine next week. And if you want more hate watching grifter / rage baiter material, The Rings of Power S2 will be released at the end of next month. The Critical Drinker will have a field day with that and he’s a big LOTR fan. Of course, it won’t be the same as The Acolyte because I think less people will watch that. Star Wars fandom is still larger than LOTR fandom. I only saw two episodes of The Rings of Power S1 because I was so bored from it. I have no intention to watch TROP S2. While I do have my complaints with House of the Dragon and there is always going to be higher expectations from book readers, we can’t complain about the high production values, acting, and even character motivations. It’s not all over the place the way The Acolyte is. We can binge watch The Acolyte for an entire afternoon and the story still doesn’t work. It’s bad writing no matter how you see it. How the hell did The Acolyte have a budget of $180M? That’s double than Obi-Wan Kenobi and it doesn’t look as good as it. While I saw MaXXXine for a fourth time yesterday and that only costs $2M and I was more immersed with it than I ever did for The Acolyte. While HOT D has a budget of $20M per episode and it looks better than close to $300M budgets coming from Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. Who I’m going to miss is watching Star Wars Meg and Allen Xie from Generation Tech daily. I don’t plan to watch The Skeleton Crew and don’t care to watch any SW animated series content except for Tales of the Jedi. I’m really not into cartoons except for Family Guy, Futurama, and the newest Beavis and Butt-Head. I prefer LIVE ACTION Star Wars. I do think the animated ones are better but anything can happen in cartoons. It’s harder to make live action than cartoons. Even if Andor S2 gets released next year slated in June 2025, I’m not sure I would visit Meg or Allen’s channels all that much. Tony Gilroy’s writing doesn’t get his sources from Legends or whatnot. It’s his own fresh take without grabbing stuff from Legends. When I watched Andor, I didn’t go on RUclips to watch breakdowns for it. Andor seems to operate in its own space. A show better suited for Star Wars Meg, Generation Tech, Star Wars Explained, Heavy Spoilers, ScreenCrush, and New Rockstars, are shows like Ahsoka and The Acolyte that deals with Legends material. That deals with Jedis, Sith, Nightsisters, and magic. Andor isn’t meant for me to have it be broken down. I watch Andor similar to The Boys where I don’t need breakdowns after each episode. I will still leave comments but I’m not invested into the lore as say House of the Dragon. It’s a little bittersweet that The Acolyte did end. Feels like summer is almost over after we watch Deadpool & Wolverine a few times and when HOT D S2 ends on Aug 4.
Lesley wife if she is not Darth Tenebrous I would eat my hat. Great points about the timing. If you want RUclips drama watch if The Boys blows it. I love your enthusiasm for all this upcoming stuff, the ending of the year looks epic as hell not gonna lie. Cobra Kai has huge potential. Its hilarious that you also breakdown how much you are looking forward to youtube discussing something breaking it down by channel but you are the most passionate person in the entirety of youtube comments. I can't wait to see your opinion on DP & Wolvie!
I'm confused,because I was under the impression that the whole point of setting the show during the High Republic era,was so that the showrunner didn't have to use any of the characters from the prequel and OT Trilogies and just do their own thing. But withing this season we see Mundi,Plaguels(who was mentioned in ROTS),and now Yoda. I've been following through wikipedia and I could barely follow this series story.
The season finale, outside of Sol’s battle with Darth Shirtless, was terrible and, as you said, frustrating. I know I’m Generation X and actually got hooked on Star Wars when I saw the original release in 1977, but I truly hate the idea that the Jedi can not only make mistakes, but be incompetent jerks. Further, the idea that there is some justification to getting so mad and betrayed at some you have a deep relationship with that you murder them, and it’s okay. Oh, I hate it. As for the discussion around the show, yes I’m sick of the bigotry. I like diversity on the screen and in Star Wars. I just expect quality storytelling that makes me identify and care for characters and their journey. The Acolyte was a hot mess of TV series production.
It really is crazy to me how Star Wars fans can be whenever they see something they don’t like. They seriously act like man child cry babies. Why does no other franchise have this kind of “fan base” like DC or Marvel?
I think what makes this so disappointing is that it did have some really interesting ideas and exciting parts like the duels. I really liked Sol's character and Qimir was interesting, but Mae and Osha just aren't very good main characters and the writing is all over the place. I also felt like the story was weirdly insulated, like I know some people are upset that Plagueis and Yoda had small cameos but I think they should've been featured more heavily, we were never with the jedi council, just in Vernestra's room all the time. The Jedi Order and Republic didn't feel large scale like they did in the prequels.
Star Wars a new hope is one of my first memories of cinema. I hold so much nostalgia and love for the original three movies and even the prequels I love the Lego games and the Lego sets I love learning about the lore I loved watching the animated shows and the force awakens. I liked Moore as a kid recently have kind of started to get more cynical on it and I’m somebody who is very mixed on the acolyte cause I feel like it started off really bad but then it started to get episode five but I can’t say it was great I wanna see what they do, so it has kept my interest and I didn’t the first season. I thought it was OK but I agree a lot of people it’s got a lot of problems I don’t know who to root for. But I hate the fact that the fandom has gotten so toxic to the point where it’s hard to talk to people passionately without making it controversial.
One side is toxic People with more than one brain cell calls it for what is - an absolutely abysmal piece of television. The "Acolytes" then use the race / diversity card which is ridiculous.
I predicted this show was gonna be an absolute disaster like a year ago. All it took was getting to the showrunner, her intentions and boom! This show is DOA.
I was also excited for this show. Seeing a completely new era of Star Wars for the first time was exciting. After the first couple of episodes, I was still excited. I think they did a good job of building intrigue with the murder mystery aspects, and I was excited to see where they would go. But as it went on, I started realizing how messy this was. I think you articulated it perfectly in that this was supposed to be when the Jedi were at the height of their power, but we have never seen them so corrupt and incompetent....
Hold up. Why was the *response* to the racist and sexist attacks the show received the first problem he cited here? 👀 Suspicious Secondly, no, the show does not HAVE TO gives its viewpoint on the events on the events of the story. It gave us several perspectives on the events and it is up to us as the audience to decide who was right and who was wrong. For example, there are many people in the "Sol did nothing wrong" camp as well as many in the "Sol is a symptom of a broken institution camp" (that's me). We're not in kindergarten anymore...both perspectives are valid. The point of this style of storytelling is to spark that kind of debate. The fact he cites this as a flaw is...disturbing. Finally, if you want to see an authentic Dark Side fall story, you have to give room for the story to unfold. Fundamentally, this is a coming-of-age story for Osha. As she grows and fully conforms to her darkness, we (as the audience) should know that it is going to end in tragedy. She and Qimir are not going to live happily ever after. That doesn't mean every beat of her story has to be crackling with evil overtones like a Halloween character. Labeling the very beginning of her arc as "horrific morality" is pretty short-sighted.
@@hoos3014 Star Wars fans: I love sith characters. give us darker stuff. Also Star Wars fans: I don’t understand Osha falling to the dark side. iS tHaT suPPoSeD to bE a gOoD tHiNg?!?”
While I was ultimately very disappointed and frustrated by this show, there was also a lot that I genuinely loved and think deserve a ton of praise. The stunt and choreography team absolutely killed it and I hope they work on future Star Wars projects. The elements of legends that were brought in for the first time to live action. The really solid VFX and art design. The first lightsaber bleed in live action. Honestly, I think this show could have pulled off an extremely satisfying character arc for Osha if the writing was better. The idea of a show that focuses on someone going dark because of lies they have been told is genuinely interesting. It feels like one of those shows that sounds like an absolute winner on paper, but then really falters in execution. Really frustrating writing, really baffling character choices, and really limiting episodes resulting in bad pacing...but I think I am still glad this show was made. I hope they give season 2 a shot with new writers because there truly were all the ingredients for a great story in here.
For me this was the worst piece of entertainment media I’ve ever seen and it’s the only thing I’ve ever rated a 0/10. Previously I would have said M Nights live action avatar, the marvels, or she-hulk at a 1/10. This series disappointed me in a beyond crushing and frustrating way
When you literally have a property based on an epic battle between good and evil, and you dress the bad guy's military as Nazis to convey that, and then you say: Actually, maybe the bad guys are fine, what does that say about your view of Nazis?
Are you talking about the empire? The empire isn’t even in the show and won’t exist for 100+ years. Even the people that turn into the empire are barely in the show
Star Wars hating has been going on since 1977. Look at all the bad reviews for the first movie. Some reviewers thought it was stupid and made for kids. The first 6 Star Wars has tons and tons of plot holes because George was adding stuff along the way for the Prequels which were then never mentioned in the Originals which happens years later like Qui-Gon Jinn and midi-chlorians which Obi-Wan and Yoda never speak about in the OGs. You would think Obi-Wan would mention his former master at least once in the OGs but he’s never mentioned. Not even in private with Yoda. And if you want to go even further, where the hell is Ahsoka in all of this? Never mentioned at all in any of the 9 movies. Filoni makes it seem she’s so significant. R2-D2 did more for the rebellion than Ahsoka did. Star Wars has tons of continuity issues. In 3 of the 9 films, they used the same planet killer Death Star plot. Two of those from the OGs. You should check The Acolyte subreddit with people liking the show. One person said it’s at least taking risks and killing off most of the main characters or at least the so-called good guys. But there’s an interesting discussion if Sol deserved to get killed or not? Was he more bad than how many of us perceive him? Bad as in doing bad things. Not necessarily evil. *Thank* *you,* *The* *Acolyte* www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/s/kb7vWMWtxF You might have a different opinion on it when reading some of the more positive comments for it. Could The Acolyte be misunderstood? Or could it be so hated now but be appreciated years later like what the Prequels became? I’ve seen positive comments for The Acolyte coming from Star Wars fans of at least 30-40 years. And thirsty females / shippers like this Oshamir stuff as their dark side Reylo. I still think The Acolyte sucks and is the worst thing that ever came out of Star Wars. But, I might compare it to when I owned an Atari Jaguar. I thought it was the worst video game console I ever had but I still have a soft spot for it. Sometimes being so bad can be looked upon as a cult classic years later. There are tons of people who love Godzilla movies and get a joy watching cheesy, campy fights with guys in rubber suits. Everybody processes information and media content differently. The few positive aspects that The Acolyte did give us are… - Qimir / The Stranger - Best lightsaber fights since the Prequels - Darth Plagueis Plagueis could lead us to a young Palpatine series someday. What Star Wars Meg needs to talk about next is Darth Plagueis possibly being in a Season 2 of The Acolyte if we do get one. It’s the big WTF/OMG moment from Ep. 8. Yoda is my second favorite SW character ever but I didn’t care about his appearance. And more Abeloth talk in Season 2 of Ahsoka. Star Wars Meg and Allen Xie of Generation Tech are at best when talking about Legends and stuff deeper into the lore. Shows like Ahsoka and The Acolyte are more like this providing more of the mystique of Star Wars than say Andor. The first Star Wars movie couldn’t beat a rom-com for Best Picture. George Lucas was always a hack of a writer. Zero Oscars for writing or Best Pic. Have the haters watched any actual SW shows? www.reddit.com/r/TheAcolyte/s/WIcQ64oXT2 I will admit The Acolyte did have superior fight choreography than Ahsoka. Not saying it was better than Ahsoka as an actual series, but it had far better fights. Does anybody remember when Maul kicks Obi-Wan to a lower floor? You can see zero contact. ruclips.net/video/qo__6MZIg6U/видео.htmlsi=At6rA5Epw0aKJWbi My Disney+ SW Series Rankings 1. Andor 2. The Mandalorian 3. Ahsoka 4. Obi-Wan Kenobi 5. The Book of Boba Fett 6. The Acolyte ^ Or take the first two seasons of The Mandalorian and the first season of Andor and throw the rest in the trash.
I am not sure how they can blame Sol for the first 2 deaths. Not only was he not at the place/time of their deaths, but he had witnesses from the Jedi Order around him that could prove he could of not done it. Also, how many Jedi died, and it does not send shock waves to the very top of the organization? Nobody asks questions? Do the writers think we are stupid?
I really don’t understand where your stance on modern Star Wars comes from or most of the fans. Everything is either “best of all time” amazing or “extremely bad” This show is like a solid 7.5.
Really frustrated with the show. For the longest time I wanted Star Wars to tackle a different time period, but leave that to Disney Star Wars to somehow even mess that up. I’m personally gonna give the show like a 3/10 for actively imploding lore and worldbuilding, janky character writing and writing in general, boring characters, among other things like the unbelievable waste of potential. Of the 24 shows I’ve ranked this year, this is easily going in last, and that number will only get worse as the year goes on. Andor S2 and Visions is the only thing I’m trusting out of Disney Star Wars moving forward…
@@NinthShinigamiI agree with you. Honestly with the exception of season 2 of Andor I probably won’t watch Star Wars any more. If you don’t mind me asking what are your thoughts about rebooting Star Wars entirely?
@@cooperwolfe5478 I'm actually down for a Star wars animated film series reboot. They could start by doing the original trilogy as faithfull as possible & then follow it up by adapting the best legend novels with a few changes for the sake of consistency, quality & continuity. Basically an Fma: Brotherhood treatment. Still not a huge Star wars fan but I've heard lots of great stuff about the legend novels. My friends are the ones who came up with this idea.
I thought that the show was terrible; it really felt pointless, and the writing all around was pretty horrendous. It’s right at the bottom of my Star Wars ranking. I hope that future projects will return to the ideals of the Jedi and good vs evil.
I agree. I liked Sean’s idea of make the Jedi heroic but slightly hint at what led their downfall. Also I agree with Sean that this doesn’t even feel like it’s a hundred years before the prequels
This is off topic, but Sean now has a merch shelf! Sean’s viewers can now buy his merchandise through RUclips. I know this isn’t mind blowing, but it’s worth pointing out if you’re considering buying Sean’s merchandise.
Bazel sabotaging Sol is my most confused scene in the entire show. Like didn’t he just try and stop Mae two episodes ago with no new information found. I don’t get it. I screamed at my screen. What is happening???
@@carterko19_59 killing Mae at that point could have lead to an even worse outcome and maybe Bazel knows it. Gotta wait and see! That said, Sol killing Mae likely tips Sol over the edge and Bazel also may have known that. Do you agree sol killing Mae at that point would be a bad outcome?
I enjoyed this show at the beginning but it went downhill. Love clowning on how bad I thought it was but I’m grateful that it gave me something to watch and laugh about with friends.
As a big fan of the High Republic books and comics, I was a little bit disappointed in the show. I don't feel like it reaches the highs of those stories that I love. That being said, there are definitely things I enjoyed. The lightsaber battles were great in my opinion, and Sol was a phenomenal character. Hopefully the writers can take the good ideas present and expand on them in a potential second season.
Total 💯 agreement with you Sean. You've captured the whole thing. And yeah what the fk was that little mouse creature doing,? Whyyy did he sabotage the ship???
You expressed all and when I mean all I mean every single frustration on point😬😬, honestly I never felt so frustrated ever since I saw the last Jedi in theatres 😮💨😮💨
I love Lee Jung Jae (Sol). They should’ve also imported Korean drama writers for this because they are the masters of writing tragedy due to misunderstanding.
The only redeeming quality about this show in my opinion was how the combat was shot. Besides that, everything else was AWFUL. This is the worst mainline Star Wars movie or series ever made and it’s not even close to be honest - Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi are like The Wire and The Sopranos compared to this show.
The thing is, this is not the first time that people have been extremely toxic regarding Star Wars The Last Jedi was FULL of nasty negativity, hate and prejudice from multiple different angles
It mostly came from a good place, this was the first taste people got that shitty morals and ethics would be written into Star Wars and it was hard for people, especially since it happened to a beloved character, its like finding out your uncle you grew up with, you looked up to him was a serial killer of children.
The ending reads pretty tragic to me! Sorry Sean don’t understand where you’ve landed on Sol was the villain. It’s a dark story with a dark ending, nothing good about it. We can only hope Osha turns it back around in future stories. Reckon you’ve read too much into it. Don’t forget Darth Plagues is back with Qimir thete is nothing good about Osha’s choice. It’s a tragedy story.
I agree with most of your points except for one, I don't feel like Sol was that likeable of a character, he seemed shady just to add "mystery" with no real reason to be, I felt like there were 3 likeable chracters: Indara, Jecki, and just for the sake of seeing a wookie Jedi, Kelnacca. But they misused and murdered them first chance they got.
Yeah it's unfortunate that society as a whole have seemed to lose the ability to have civil discussions. I ultimately did hate the show, but I acknowledge that is my opinion and some love it and that's fine and they aren't wrong, nor am I. I wish we could all be able to just disagree civilly.
Oh it is not just you! This show was disappointing, is putting it kindly. The writers had no idea what they were doing. I do agree with your assessment of this show, 100%! It was terrible!
It was far from perfect, very mid. But I loved the premise. I just wished they treated the Jedi like heroes. Also the lack of redemption for Sol was really disappointing, probably the most disappointing for me
I was greatly disappointed by this. I watched Star Wars for The first time on my 8th Birthday (watched Phantom Menace) and I fell in love with it and has stuck with me throughout my whole childhood I remember the joy of finally watching a Star Wars movie on the big screen for ep7 (I was 11 years old, 15 by the time ep9 came out) and I have fond memories for the sequels as despite there flaws I grew up with them and gave me a lot of joy seeing Star Wars on the big screen (so yes I do love the sequels). As a 20-year-old now this show felt to me like a betrayal of why I love Star Wars the tales of good vs evil was why I fell in love with it so to me this was just a step too far.
What I find is there’s a number of content creators who either trash or praise everything; and when they do that I find it hard to buy into them because I don’t believe their being truthful.
Before we go to new time periods we need a GOOD episode 7 We need a GOOD revisit to Luke One in which he is at least allowed to train one padawan that lives And I don’t want it to predate or fall in the same canon as the “sequel trilogy”: the events of the sequels do so much damage that they belong in an alternate universe, that is if Disney still wants our money
The Jedi of the High Republic are the guardians of peace and justice but most know this is set during the end of the High Republic. Read the books and comics if you want. Vernestra Rwoh in the books and comics is a completely different character who follows the Will of the Force instead of the the Will of the Jedi. The High Republic series isn't over so something major has to happen to have her start down the wrong path.
There are trolls and bots. Most people are normal and can have honest conversations. We can be critical and hate a show or movies. I've never seen death threats or threats of violence. Ive seen people call each other incels or losers. Dumb or ridicolous but thats the worst ive seen. Comment section can be hyperbole. I think toxicity is exagerated but there def a few bad eggs combine with trolls and bots. Ai is making harder to tell the difference. I mostly hate disney products in last 5 years. I mostly loved disney products the previous 10 years.
The reason why Sol was treated the way he did is because he ultimately was corrupt. It doesnt matter if the mom qas turning into a smoke demon, the Jedi had no reason to be there. He was told by the council not to interfere and then manipulated Osha's jedi test. He was obviously falling to the dark side because of EMOTIONS. Just bevause he's a very cool and likable, doesnt mean he didnt do anything wrong. Amd in the end, had the jedi nor been on Brendok, none of this would have happened. Even to the very end, Sol is trying to justify it. He was stuck in denial and thats why he was never able to properly train Osha. I like what they did with Sol's arc
I absolutely echo your frustrations. However, given the track record of Disney SW (especially lately), I believe some people’s expectations for this were too much. Especially when you see who was in charge of it. Were you really expecting top tier content? That’s giving them way too much credit for the disappointing things they’ve been putting out.
I rewatched book of Boba Fett recently and it was way better than I remembered. I’ve watched Kenobi at least 3 times, I liked it the first time. But every time I rewatch it, I like it less and less and start to understand why people hate on it. My Personal Ranking of Star Wars Live Action Shows 6. Obi-Wan Kenobi 5. The Book of Boba Fett 4. The Acolyte (my opinion), don’t give me crap for it. 3. Ahsoka 2. The Mandalorian 1. Andor
In regards to everyone bringing in politics to this show, aren’t there interviews of the cast making fun of the fans? It’s the same as Rachel Zegler’s interview for Snow White.
As middling as the show was for the most part, I loved the themes this show tried to explore and I thought this finale was terrific and maybe the best episode of the season. Episode 3 is still an absolute dumpster fire with horrible child actors and the cult and its abilities remain bafflingly ill-defined, but the questions of morality, power and the nature of the jedi itself that this show raises are interesting ones. The overall journey of our 2 leads might have been frustrating and downright boring at times but this finale leaves the story in a very exciting place in my opinion.
I stopped watching after episode two and it was because it just felt so painfully mid the dialogue was awful and in my opinion I felt like this show could’ve been great but it wasn’t for me
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Dude this movie was LITERALLY made by a misandrist director and half the cast in there were also misandrists AND racists. Which is why the show was so bad. Because there werent any motives, it was just "boys drool women rule" or smth like that XD
Sending death threats over Star Wars shows how broken we are as a society. They are giving these entertainment products the same power as religions or politics. Absolutely insane
It's gotten to the point where you can't really have a conversation about what you like or didn't like without someone ruining it with their politics
Agreed completely, it is giving the wrong message to the correct directors / writers that are needed to bring Star Wars back to where it needs to be because of the fear that it’ll justifiably destroy their career, regardless of an objectively good or bad product
The main problem between all of the hostility about topics is the Internet. There are no real consequences to being rude. That being said, I'm not a fan of the Acolyte and where the Star Wars franchise has been going for a while; sending death threats over opinions is ridiculous for both sides of this
Star Wars fans been doing this since the Prequels with Jake Flyod and George Lucas
True. SW fans unfortunately have always been toxic. Back in the day, SW purists would bash you if you liked any other film other than Empire or New Hope @@user-bt9yh8jn1q
Some people really need to understand that the jedi being arrogant and flawed doesn’t justify them being utterly incompetent, specially when several jedi have been brutally slaughtered in a matter of days, Yoda and Windu were convinced the sith was back and all it took was Maul killing a single jedi
Did… you watch the show? There was a very clear cover up. It was all pinned on Sol. Maul showed his face to countless people.
@@Just_Jac0byeah it’s a lazy and boring cover up
I agree, however, Nerd Cookies on her channel say that the writing especially Dave Filoni is not up speed. I have to agree. He did the animated series but he is finding the transition to live action is not easy.
The Jedi genuinely believing Sol did all the when it was speculated several times that Mae had a master, and the murders started while he was still in Coruscant is beyond stupid
@@Just_Jac0b indara was murdered while sol was training younglings in the jedi temple and he still gets blamed for all the deaths lol this show is complete garbage
It honestly feels like the writers themselves have a weird lack of morals where they dont even know what a broad right and wrong is, so it translates to confusing characters and oddly promoted themes that goes directly against what Star Warsnis
It felt like they were trying to appeal to the fanbase by killing characters but didn’t do the proper build up or set up
@@Condor-gb1xp Fr, my monkey brain liked seeing the fights but whenever i put thought to the story it was super unsatisfying
Because their ultimate goal is pushing a message over making sense of anything.
@@nickmacias00 No, because the show didn’t have any message lol. That’s part of why it’s bad. It doesn’t justify it’s existence
They were trying so hard to paint a Jedi Bad narrative. But Sol is the only character on this show who dies and seems like an actual good guy its so badly written.
A really talented writer could’ve condensed this entire show into a 1 hour episode
That, I strongly disagree with. No story like this should be told in one hour. I don’t even understand how you come to that conclusion.
@@jeromevaleska2014 really? The show takes place in an extremely short amount of time. And the flashback episodes were an absolute waste. And there were no subplots. If you made this into a movie, OSHA becoming the strangers apprentice could easily happen at the one hour mark. And the next hour would be about the fallout. Maot fiction is like this. Not everything needs a three movie story arc.
Typical Tik Tok generation thing to say.
@@xjoemallardx I think the rest of the season should’ve been about what happens after OSHA turns to the Sith
@@xjoemallardx just look at Batman Begins and TDK. They’re fast paced, dramatic, and thrilling. First hour of both those films tells the same time span as The Acolyte. And with more characters and subplots
I suspect that actors who were fans of the series asked too many logical questions about the story's plot holes and THAT is why Leslie started looking for staff who didn't enjoy the series.
I could not be more disappointed with this show. The finale was very underwhelming, and it felt sooo rushed. Osha turned so fast and was okay with being around the very person that killed his childhood friend and a girl she had interests for, now she's just okay with that. Basil's intentions was very odd considering not long before he attacked Mae lol, now he's stopping Sol.... and they manipulated us as viewers, at the end of episode 6 Sol had something "very important" to tell Mae, the. Episode 7 we see that Mae was there for the whole thing so we was here thinking "what else will he say to her she doesn't already know" the. Episode 8... he's just sitting there!!! He literally said he was about to tell her the truth, then sits down and doesn't talk and then says he's waiting for the jedi to come.... this entire show has been like this and it's extremely frustrating 😤. This show has gotten a BIG Fat F grade for me, first star wars project to get one for me. I can't emphasize how much I detest this show, I even defended this show for a while and was excited before it came out only to not have any emotions whe. Seeing plagueis because of how bad of a show this had been. This show has okay moments, but very few. I started to really hate Sol as a character after 6 and 7. I hate the moral of this shows message.... evil wins, do what u want and u will be happy.... do good, well then u lose. Anakin did what he wanted and look at where that got him, What about Luke, oh yeah he lost his arm. No consequences in this show for these terrible acted characters of Osha and Mae. And then qimir, why not, he's cool, sexy and strong, sith rules, be bad kids... whatever
Why did you hate Sol after Episodes 6 and 7?
The worst Star Wars media ever made - Yes even worse than the Star Wars Holiday Special.
No that goes to Boba Fett, this one has issues but I wouldn’t call the worst one.
@@MrTragedious986I don’t get why people hate boba fett THAT much. I don’t think it’s good but… worse than this? Nah
@@thepikminbrawler1746 Boba Fett suffers from an identity crisis and has a hard time what it wants to be.
Haven’t seen the holiday special but it can’t be worse than this garbage
@@thepikminbrawler1746 BoBF was an absolute dumpster fire.
In a show that was marketed to add women to Star Wars the two best characters in the show are the two male characters
100% agree, and ironically my favorite performance from a woman in the show was the minor character jecki, probably because the actress was genuinely talented and like able
Lol and the worst are female
Were those characters Sol and Qimir?
@@thestrongestnerd4284that's Dafne keen, Laura or X-23 from Logan and Deadpool and wolverine. She's great. Pity the show sucked.
The sad thing about the acolyte, is it was so bad it will make it a lot harder to convince the audiance to give any future Star Wars project a try.
I've heard that a lot of Star Wars fans have walked away from the franchise and they have said that they are rewatching the first 6 Star Wars Movies and focusing on Star Wars Legends content nowadays.
If they get rid of Kathleen Kennedy fans might come back
@@youtubeconnollyfamily Same goes for Kevin Feige.
@@trevturp6891 no he just needs to bring those brothers back that made infinity war. Since they left, Kevin has been lost, I think.
@@youtubeconnollyfamily I don't mean to be a jerk and I'm sorry, if I am, but that's complete and total bullshit. There is a good possibility that the fans would come back, if they got rid of Kevin Feige. The fans hate him and for good reason. That stupid hack destroyed The MCU and turned it into The M-She-U. Marvel is not going to get back on track as long as that brainless moron is in charge. Kevin wasn't ever lost, he's an idiot who doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and as a result destroyed Marvel. If he was smart enough to do his job, then he wouldn't need to bring The Russo Brothers back.
yeah this show was a waste of time in my opinion.
It basically romanticizes the dark side by justifying vengeance over a good guy’s mistakes. It, and also misunderstanding the fall of the Jedi order. They fell due to arrogance of how much they became involved in politics and less with the force, not due to explicitly being evil and doing bad things.
So pretty much, this show is romanticizing the dark side by turning the good guys evil (which is character assassination btw), saying that it’s okay to do bad things whenever the good guys do bad things, even if all of the actions that these characters make don’t make sense and are forced due to the bad writing of the show.
Not romanticising the dark side at all. Where do you get that from?
I'm not that familiar with the lore. But the two obvious ways to portray the fall seem like 1) collapsing due to being corrupt, incompetent, or brittle. or 2) Being professional, dedicated to ethical excellence and needing a god-tier villain to topple you or slowly pull you appart until you're completely subverted. The Jedi having integrity would require that a Sith villain be cunning and powerful. If the Jedi are keystone cops, then the Sith suck for not being able to run rings around them. I agree with the moral framing of it. But it just seems like chipping at the Jedi chips at the Sith and undercuts tension. In the original, Vader was an absolutely awe-inspiring figure. It required excellence from Luke to be remotely on the same level.
I am fully convinced the Acolyte is the worst Star Wars Media ever
I thought kenobi was terrible. Surely it can’t get worse?
The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker still infuriate me more, but wow, this almost reached that level for me
I thought it would never get as bad as The Rise of Skywalker, but then the Acolyte came along... :(
@@YoungYonk at least kenobi had characters we liked
You've never seen the 1978 star wars Christmas special
You're absolutely right about the current state of the Star Wars Fandom. It's just not as enjoyable as it used to be, and that's a real shame. 🔥🔥🔥
This started with TLJ. Star Wars used to be a series that everyone could like, but that film decided to touch on the current culture war and take a hard stance on one side, while humiliating and destroying classic characters to vilify and spite the other.
@@OrthoLou Agree 🤝🏻
@@OrthoLou Why blame it on the movie and not the actions people take because of it? Accountability for how the fandom acts is in the hands of the fandom.
Ryan the problem that you are seeing is that Disney is a "Monopoly". It has too much power. This why President Theodore Roosevelt campaign against such things in business. Funny how history is repeating itself.
@@OrthoLouno, it started with TPM. Sadly, middle aged fans set this tone at the time and then RUclipsrs caught on to the popularity of negative nit picking videos and here we are.
I'm jealous--it would be great to take my kids to see the original trilogy on a big screen.
Man I’ve never heard you talk so frustratingly before, I haven’t seen it but seen RUclipsrs talking about how it changes the cannon to Star Wars. The only thing I don’t like about the idea is there are good and bad in the world, you can’t say everyone is good with different views. That’s not how writing good and evil work. Great video Sean
Appreciate it.
yeah it's been a frustrating watch
@@SeanChandlerTalksAbout at least you got some of it out of your system
@@SeanChandlerTalksAboutwell it’s been tiresome though.
@@justinpatton6996 totally.
the other thing is that they're presenting things that are self-contradictory on their face, It's called "going to the dark side" for a reason, because it involves embracing hatred, fear, etc. And they literally show visual signifiers of evil such as corrupting a lightsaber to red, wearing dark and sinister clothing, wearing an evil looking helmet, etc. but then soft music is playing and the girls are hugging and crying like it's a wonderful journey of self-discovery that Osha's about to go on. Makes no sense!
@@xposhboyx no sense at all
Gotta say, there are many issues to raise but some of the acting was truly shocking. Green lady in particular was remarkably dreadful
The shows biggest problem is the pacing. It spends 4 episode doing nothing, then has very interesting stuff in episode 5 and most of 6. But 6 also has a boring subplot, then any momentum the show built up was killed by episode 7 being another flashback, which leads to episode 8 having a lot of ground to cover and by the end a lot of the most intresting questions font get answered. For cryimg out loud 25% of the show is flashbacks, thats a problem.
"The nightmares, they are finally over"
Rip Tup and fives 🫡🫡🫡
Terrible show actors were awful
Thanks for taking a rational view of the show Sean.
To be honest, I rarely saw any of the people saying “you’re racist for not liking it” or there are “no valid criticisms for the show”.
Personally it always felt like people would hyperfixate on the “wokeness” of the show and not actually share criticisms. That said, I have seen it. Perhaps I spent my time on the internet where behavior like that wasn’t as prevalent on one side as it was the other.
That said, I thought the show was pretty bad, but with a few stand out moments.
Personally I didn’t like the show at all, but at all because of the diversity. I just hated how the characters were written.
@@cooperwolfe5478 Yeah, same. Plenty of people had legitimate criticisms, and from my experience most of those people weren’t the ones getting hate. They definitely did get some though and it’s not fair that they got lumped in with a bad crowd
@Condor-gb1xp Yeah, I can tell you sit in your own echo chamebers most of the time. This is ALL I saw anyone who defended this show say. I don't think I heard any defense for the show having to do with anything that was actually about the show..!
Dude, the lead actress made a full-on diss track calling fans ists and phobes LOL are you delusional..?
Meanwhile, every RUclips review I watched critiquing it always had to include the obligatory, "If you enjoy, fine, that's great!" line to save hurt fee-fees.
I completely agree, Sean’s review really resonates with me as well. I thought the show had some decent stuff and the big budget made it watchable, but very disappointing
@@OrthoLou Like I said, I don’t think the show is very good, and I could care less what the actress does in her free time
The only “echo chamber” I’ve been in is filled with people screaming that the show is woke garbage while name calling people when they give it even a little credit e.g. one fight scene was good.
The diss track you talked about was cringe (just looked it up) but I think most people wouldn’t want to be associated with that for giving the show a little bit of credit.
As someone who has enjoyed a lot of recent Star Wars, this was easily the worst Star Wars project I've seen in years. Worse than BOBF, Kenobi, AND Rise of Skywalker, which was my previous worst. The writing was all over the place, the characters were baffling in terms of why they were doing certain things and the mystery element was not a mystery in the slightest. Unlike other people though, I'm still looking forward to stuff like Skeleton Crew, Andor season 2, Ahsoka season 2 regardless of this.
As someone who hates The Rise of Skywalker, this managed to be worse
@cooperwolfe5478 yesss. Last Jedi was good for me, so when Rise of Skywalker destroyed everything that movie set up, it easily became my most hated project. But somehow, this show was worse lol
I agree, I’m still excited for Star Wars. Although that excitement is very low, I want to know what happens with Thrawn and all of that stuff. This is the worst Star Wars though, and I bet that young Jedi children’s show is 10x better than whatever the acolyte was.
@emeraldninjalink6312 🤣🤣 guarantee the youngling show is better then this
This is honestly for the first time, I've ever been so frustrated with any Star Wars project, and this is coming from a guy who doesn't like films like The Last Jedi or Rise Of Skywalker. The finale was so confusing, so all over the map, and at the end of the show, I thought to myself... this doesn't feel like Star Wars. It felt like a fan film or fan fiction, and the Rise of Skywalker was nothing but fanservice after freaking fanservice!
And to be brutally honest, I was completely down for a different time period and a murder mystery, but not only did the writing not make any sense overall... but they freaking included Darth Plagueis, the grey creature in the cave in the finale (yes, it has been confirmed), and the final shot showed Yoda! And don't get me wrong, I love Yoda. He's my favorite Jedi, and I get he's still exists because in Jedi, he was 900 years old... but you really didn't need Yoda to be there! He amounted to nothing except freaking sequel baiting for a second season!
So, in trying so hard to move away from the established characters and trying to create something unique, they failed on BOTH accounts! I wanted to like this project, but because the writing and dialogue were all over the map, it's just an incoherent mess!
However, is this the worst thing ever made? No, not really. I've seen things like Velma, Tusk, Freddy Got F**gered, Fant4stic, Winnie-the-Pooh: Blood and Honey, and a bunch of other things that are far worse than this, but this is definitely one of the weakest and wasted potential thing I've seen come out of Star Wars.
It’s not even the worst Star Wars product…but it’s so disappointing
The one part about this, its is SO stupid, we are barely getting out of the original films, because its a Palpatine reference, you know Plagueis? So will we get a Sheev character next season or third season? Oh now we are back into the films AGAIN. Its so frustrating.
Tusk is an awesome movie
@@Melodicroger No, it definitely is. Crapolyte makes stuff like The Last Jedi, Rise of Skywalker, Book of Boba Fett, the Holiday Special, etc. look like masterpieces in comparison 💀
This review was so well thought out and objective, this encapsulates how a lot of the fan base feels perfectly, thank you very much for mapping this out for us all
I hope Skeleton Crew is better. It's got the director of Tom Holland's Spider-Man movies behind it, and stars Jude Law. so hopefully it's good
We have eternal hope. I will probably watch it unless my mom lets me skip it.
This show could've been a 90 minute special with some proper direction. But the storytelling was all over the place. And it's heartbreaking that it absolutely breaks the lore it's supposed to be a part of.
You being one person able to think up all these good Star Wars ideas makes me wonder why groups of people at Disney can’t do it
I thought the show had a good start, but I genuinely felt the sense that they crammed too much into the end to set up season 2, or another show. Lots of people say that about Mando and the other Star Wars live action shows, but I felt that waaaaayyyyy more in this show than any of those others combined.
Me too.
And this is why " the creator" ( i use that term very loosely ) wanted people working on it not to know anything at all about SW.
A big pile of steaming doggy doo doo.
0:03 Also, is it just me or is the sun hot? On a more serious note, I like how Sean Chandler is one of the few rational people on the internet who isn't just a screaming lunatic attacking people and actually cares about giving his honest opinion.
23:57 I know why, It was brought to you by Jedi Propaganda Inc., Or if you want the actual reason it said that, it's because George Lucan didn't know the fact that this show would have a hate boner out for the Jedi.
Agreed this review was very good and completely objective
I think this was a good to decent finale. And a good to decent show overall. It's far from perfect. Some stuff really needed more time to breath and there a few scenes that really needed an explanation, but I still enjoyed watching the show overall despite my issues with it. Still above above Book of Boba and Obi Wand for me (even though more individual moments were stronger there) I would probably put it on the same tier as Mando season 3(but a bit above). Both are seasons were the ideas are better than the actual execution, but I still overall enjoyed the seasons.
I hope it gets a season 2 and can improve in these aspects.
It's the textbook definition of wasted potential.
For every one fantastic idea, there is one badly written scene with terrible dialogue. For every one amazing action scene, there are 5 other scenes that do not work. For every one great character in Sol, there are other characters that hinder the show such as Mae and Osha. For every intriguing moment, there are dumb moments that make the show unintentionally goofy. I wanted to love this show, but I ended up walking away disappointed because the potential for something amazing was there. Unfortunately, the show squanders all of the genius concepts for a mostly uninteresting show. It only "gets good" in the 5th episode and the last episode, with sprinkles of greatness elsewhere. It's still a watchable show and nowhere near as bad as others say, but it is still one of the worst Star Wars shows that Disney+ has put out, only topping Boba Fett, making it the 2nd worst show. It would have worked better as a 2 1/2 hour movie as opposed to an 8 episode series (a common theme among many Disney+ shows).
Well, I will tell you one thing.
The people who choose to not give constructive criticism of the film and instead choose to insult the creators of the series would be the first ones to turn to the "Dark Side" if ever they became Jedi for a brief time in this galaxy far far away.
They're morality is all shot to hake.
That's why I'd rather just concentrate on the quality of the story alone. I never take it to the cast or crew because I don't know them personally and it's right to treat others the way you would want to be treated. I want to be treated with Love because Love feels good. But Hate..... feels awful.
I actually thought the tragedy of the story came through at the end, I never got the impression of Osha going through any kind of ‘wholesome’ catharsis when she killed Sol either. Her joining Qimir and returning to his planet had no sense of victory or affirmation, especially since she decided to abandon her sister to keep their secret, not to mention she and Qimir are now outcasts.
Exactly. It’s a downbeat almost tragic scenario I don’t get why people are thinking it’s a “good” outcome for Osha.
it's not portrayed as tragic because her and Qimir are given a romantic looking out into the sunset moment, which is historically or stereotypically a "happily ever after" kind of shot. Also, her and Mae are given this heartfelt teary eyed reunion where they make up. Nothing about Osha's evilness was portrayed as tragic or bad, it was portrayed as a cathartic happy ending for her. Maybe if they saved the Plageus shot AFTER the sunset shot, we could sense that Qimir and Osha's doom is impending. But it just wasn't portrayed that way, which is bizarre.
@@voyager451 that maybe a romantic moment for them but it’s clearly not a happy ending. It’s a dark ending. Ominous in fact because we’ve seen how powerful Osha is now she’s joined forces with Qimir.
Osha and Mae making up is a happy of itself but that’s it.
Remember who is lurking in the cave behind the sunset shot! Think more about it.
It’s a bleak dark ending. I get that bleak dark endings are not common and it seems some people are struggling to process it.
Lovers in darkness.
Or you’re saying dark force users can’t feel love? Letting feelings flow is a key part of the dark side.
@@voyager451 I’ll give you an analogy. Did you think the ending of AOTC where Anakin and Padme marry was a good or happy ending? Or ominous?
It's WILD to me people are confused about this. The Osha and Qimir "romance" is going to end in a Romeo and Juliet style tragedy AT BEST.
Read some context clues, folks. The show shouldn't have to spell this out in crayon.
sean, this is a brilliantly honest review, as a star wars fan I resonated with everything you said, what a mess and what an absolute shame, this could of been amazing.......season 2 is a NO from me, I don't want yoda a part of leslye headache's vision.
I share many of the criticisms of the show with you.
Regarding the toxic discourse and trolling - that's the part of the modus operandi of the fandom menace - to make the discourse so toxic, no one sane will want to partake in Star Wars. With trolling they make the other side lose trust in good faith of the critics, and it radicalizes the defenders, which ironically makes them undermine their own points.
As for the show, I agree wtih everything else you stated except the fact that all Jedi were not portrayed as wrong and corrupt. Surprisingly, it's individuals here that were portrayed as wrong, and much of the reasons they were wrong is that they betrayed the values of the Jedi - Sol is way too emotional and creepy, which causes him to be wrong.
But I agree, Osha joining Qimir is showed to be too much of a good thing. Which bothers me a lot.
A true detective style murder mystery with Sol and Osha hunting qimir would have been far more interesting.
They could have exposed some corruption with qimir being the former padawan of Venestra and that would have accomplished the goal of showing some cracks forming.
They could have avoided getting creatively blocked by having to adhere to lore they tip toed around ruining this entire show in so many ways.
I was excited about the murder mystery, but, writing-wise, the mystery aspect of this show was on par with Scooby Doo. In regards to the unknown Sith, they wrote themselves into a corner where there was literally only one possibility on who could it be. When you can decipher the culprit by simply knowing who hasn’t been in any of the fight scenes, then that’s a problem.
With all the toxicity and chaos surrounding this show, it’s nice to have a voice of reason from Sean. ❤️
You perfectly explained the exhaustion that accompanied this show. As someone who didn't "hate" it, had plenty of issues with it, but saw some good things here and there, finding other people who didn't feel extreme one way or the other, and were capable of having a nuanced discussion is incredibly difficult.
I try to stay as far away from public discourse as possible when it comes to Star Wars and this show is why.
Quick thing. Her saber turned red unlike Anakin’s in ROTS because Mae cracked the saber and revealed the kyber crystal which allowed OSHA’s emotions to bleed into it. This type of bleeding a crystal red is canon as of 2017. Lol found that out yesterday.
I think Sean has perfectly summed up how I've felt about this show. I didn't like this show. I thought it was awful but I WOULD NEVER attack someone for liking something or disliking something and neither should any person. Star Wars captured my imagination, as it did with so many other fans across the world and while some projects over the last few years haven't exactly worked for me, I still appreciate the films I fell in love with. Thank you Sean. You're amazing!
I’m baffled as to why they involved Yoda in this fiasco. As the most powerful Jedi, he should have sensed that the Jedi were dying and that the truth was being covered up. The show made Yoda complicit in the cover-up, tarnishing his reputation. Bear in mind, this is considered canon!
cheap member berries / nostalgia bait at the expense of the story.
*Most* *Predictable* *Murder* *Mystery* *Ever*
Qimir is Smilo Ren ☑️
Sol kills Aniseya ☑️
Sol dies ☑️
Jedis covered it up by lying ☑️
Vernestra is Qimir’s former master ☑️
Osha will be Qimir’s acolyte ☑️
Even the cameo appearances from Plagueis and Yoda didn’t feel that shocking although seeing Plagueis did give me an OMG moment. Look, it’s Ebony Maw from Avengers: Infinity War who Tony Stark called Squidward becoming a Sith Lord in the dumbest whodunit series ever!
I just think the writers were several steps behind the viewers. It’s like the writers are trying to spell the word cat or dog on paper and the viewers has to keep helping them with that spelling. The viewers already filled in the blank faster than they could. The only thing that did surprise me was Vernestra throwing Sol’s dead body under the bus like that. Still not as surprising as that pop song during the end credits from Ep. 7.
With all that said, I actually like this episode. Pacing felt a lot better. Another fight scene between Sol vs. Smilo. I did feel some tension in it being it was 46 minutes and not 32 minutes of Ep. 4 and 5. I like it enough but I’m not saying I love it. It’s still severely flawed but this might be the most enjoyable episode I saw so far. More than Ep. 5 because it did close some loose ends and it did have a little more emotion. I will give it a B-. Not from a logic/writing standpoint, but from how I feel about it.
Let’s rank each SW series’ finale…
Finale Rankings
1. The Mandalorian S2
2. Andor
3. The Mandalorian S1
4. The Mandalorian S3
5. Obi-Wan Kenobi
6. The Acolyte
7. Ahsoka
8. The Book of Boba Fett
Star Wars B*TCH Theory whining about Plagueis’ appearance. Your hack writer, George Lucas, ripped off Christianity, bro. Jesus Christ’s story has been around for over 2000 years. Anakin’s immaculate conception story is around 25 years. Then George based the Force on Taoism.
There are still some parts that didn’t make sense. First off, Mae was at it again. When Sol is ready to explain something important, Mae does something to prevent him from saying it. I thought the whole point of Mae boarding the ship was to kill Sol? Now she’s trying to escape.
Didn’t it feel like The Stranger turned back into Qimir in this episode as if Manny Jacinto became more of Osha’s sidekick by letting Osha do what she wants? It’s his own ship and it felt like he took the Chewbacca role. And Osha turning to the dark side happened faster than Anakin in Revenge of the Sith.
The ending was a ripoff of No Way Home. Since when did Qimir have powers to erase memories permanently? How did he become Men in Black/Doctor Strange all of a sudden? He was reciting the same words Palpatine said in Return of the Jedi. And WTF are Qimir and Osha holding hands for? She glances at his dong a few times and she liked what she saw? Didn’t he kill her friends?
I think Episode 7 was so disappointing with the “big reveal”, it didn’t matter how good Episode 8 would be. Episode 7 put the nail in the coffin for this series. The writers turned Sol into a dumbass like them. Why not have Sol report it? The lie was their biggest sin and they all had to die because of it. Sol could’ve just said he killed Aniseya out of self-defense.
The witches were the aggressors. While Sol and Torbin did initiate the confrontation because Sol was so eager to protect the kids and wanted a padawan of his own, and Torbin was homesick, killing Aniseya was NOT from malicious intent but from self-defense. I did not see one moment to make me believe the Jedi are evil except that group lied about it and then Vernestra lying about the entire story.
Who knew Leslye’s wife would end up being the most unlikable and despicable character in her own series even surpassing Schizo/Bipolar Mae who now has amnesia and Koril who didn’t reappear. What Vernestra did to her old friend was so wrong. Blame everything on him when all he was trying to do was protect kids from a religious dark side using witch cult. But I guess she lied to get Senator Rayencourt off her back.
That might be the weakest group of Jedis of all-time: Sol, Indara, Kelnacca, Torbin and toss in Yord and Jecki. Some were given some of the dumbest motives ever. So many of these characters as Sean Chandler said had wildly inconsistent characterizations. They can go out of character from a drop of a hat.
We saw it with The Stranger in the finale. He went back being Qimir and tagging along with Osha and Mae. From main villain to sidekick! Qimir is a submissive character. Osha said no to him twice and he was cool about it and he still let her pilot his ship. So Qimir is as desperate for a pupil as Sol. Almost like he needs to act like a simp to Osha to be his pupil.
I will still defend what Sol did but not what Vernestra said after he died. But I guess Vernestra is the Palpatine before Palpatine. She’s a phantom menace among the Jedis. Great acting by Lee when Sol was killed. I felt that. I was sad. Not so good acting from Amandla, the worst actress in the series portraying two unlikable, uninteresting characters.
Even Bazil turned on Sol at the end! Nobody is loyal. Everyone changes their personality and motivations every 20 minutes or so. Osha said no to Qimir twice and then she’s willing to train under him if he erases her sister’s memories and then hold his hand at the end. Nobody knows WTF they want in this story. Indara could’ve prevented the entire thing by saying NO to Sol, end of story.
The series didn’t need to have 8 episodes. Ep. 3 & 7 and Ep. 4 & 5 could’ve been combined. We didn’t need to waste 30 minutes from Ep. 7 rehashing the events from Ep. 3 from a different camera angle. Or just make each episode at least 45+ minutes long which can flesh out the characters and story better. Reason why I’m more invested in HOT D and The Boys’ characters is because their episodes are usually over an hour long.
The Acolyte was structurally flawed from the get go. Pacing is all over the place. Same with the character motivations as if their personality needs to change instantly because the script demanded them to. Some episodes were too short to tell us anything and other times they dragged while still being a short episode.
Character Rankings
1. Qimir / The Stranger
2. Indara (Trinity didn’t deserve to die!)
3. Sol
4. Jecki
5. Yord
6. Aniseya
7. Torbin
8. Bazil
9. Pip
10. Osha
11. Koril
12. Mae
13. Vernestra
Series Rankings
1. Andor = A-
2. The Mandalorian = B+
3. Ahsoka = C
4. Obi-Wan Kenobi = C-
5. The Book of Boba Fett = C-
6. The Acolyte = D
I’m a little sad that The Acolyte did end. Not because I want to see more shit writing and bad acting from Amandla but because the hate watching grifters will no longer have comedy material for us. It was a fun 6 weeks from June 4 to July 16. But we still got 3 more episodes of House of the Dragon, 1 more episode of The Boys S4 tomorrow which coincides with Cobra Kai S6 Part 1 and Twisters, and we got Deadpool & Wolverine next week.
And if you want more hate watching grifter / rage baiter material, The Rings of Power S2 will be released at the end of next month. The Critical Drinker will have a field day with that and he’s a big LOTR fan. Of course, it won’t be the same as The Acolyte because I think less people will watch that. Star Wars fandom is still larger than LOTR fandom. I only saw two episodes of The Rings of Power S1 because I was so bored from it. I have no intention to watch TROP S2.
While I do have my complaints with House of the Dragon and there is always going to be higher expectations from book readers, we can’t complain about the high production values, acting, and even character motivations. It’s not all over the place the way The Acolyte is. We can binge watch The Acolyte for an entire afternoon and the story still doesn’t work. It’s bad writing no matter how you see it.
How the hell did The Acolyte have a budget of $180M? That’s double than Obi-Wan Kenobi and it doesn’t look as good as it. While I saw MaXXXine for a fourth time yesterday and that only costs $2M and I was more immersed with it than I ever did for The Acolyte. While HOT D has a budget of $20M per episode and it looks better than close to $300M budgets coming from Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny.
Who I’m going to miss is watching Star Wars Meg and Allen Xie from Generation Tech daily. I don’t plan to watch The Skeleton Crew and don’t care to watch any SW animated series content except for Tales of the Jedi. I’m really not into cartoons except for Family Guy, Futurama, and the newest Beavis and Butt-Head. I prefer LIVE ACTION Star Wars. I do think the animated ones are better but anything can happen in cartoons. It’s harder to make live action than cartoons.
Even if Andor S2 gets released next year slated in June 2025, I’m not sure I would visit Meg or Allen’s channels all that much. Tony Gilroy’s writing doesn’t get his sources from Legends or whatnot. It’s his own fresh take without grabbing stuff from Legends. When I watched Andor, I didn’t go on RUclips to watch breakdowns for it. Andor seems to operate in its own space.
A show better suited for Star Wars Meg, Generation Tech, Star Wars Explained, Heavy Spoilers, ScreenCrush, and New Rockstars, are shows like Ahsoka and The Acolyte that deals with Legends material. That deals with Jedis, Sith, Nightsisters, and magic. Andor isn’t meant for me to have it be broken down. I watch Andor similar to The Boys where I don’t need breakdowns after each episode. I will still leave comments but I’m not invested into the lore as say House of the Dragon.
It’s a little bittersweet that The Acolyte did end. Feels like summer is almost over after we watch Deadpool & Wolverine a few times and when HOT D S2 ends on Aug 4.
Lesley wife if she is not Darth Tenebrous I would eat my hat. Great points about the timing. If you want RUclips drama watch if The Boys blows it. I love your enthusiasm for all this upcoming stuff, the ending of the year looks epic as hell not gonna lie. Cobra Kai has huge potential. Its hilarious that you also breakdown how much you are looking forward to youtube discussing something breaking it down by channel but you are the most passionate person in the entirety of youtube comments. I can't wait to see your opinion on DP & Wolvie!
Dude💀hahahaha
I'm confused,because I was under the impression that the whole point of setting the show during the High Republic era,was so that the showrunner didn't have to use any of the characters from the prequel and OT Trilogies and just do their own thing.
But withing this season we see Mundi,Plaguels(who was mentioned in ROTS),and now Yoda.
I've been following through wikipedia and I could barely follow this series story.
@@agentofentertainment1361 Yoda lived for 300 years how can the show not include him at some point?
The season finale, outside of Sol’s battle with Darth Shirtless, was terrible and, as you said, frustrating. I know I’m Generation X and actually got hooked on Star Wars when I saw the original release in 1977, but I truly hate the idea that the Jedi can not only make mistakes, but be incompetent jerks. Further, the idea that there is some justification to getting so mad and betrayed at some you have a deep relationship with that you murder them, and it’s okay. Oh, I hate it.
As for the discussion around the show, yes I’m sick of the bigotry. I like diversity on the screen and in Star Wars. I just expect quality storytelling that makes me identify and care for characters and their journey. The Acolyte was a hot mess of TV series production.
I had a hunch yoda was going to show up. Even when headland said he wasn’t going to be in the show, I knew that was a lie.
As someone who doesn’t care abt star wars, it seems from the outside looking in that Disney is trying to kill any love for this franchise
It really is crazy to me how Star Wars fans can be whenever they see something they don’t like. They seriously act like man child cry babies. Why does no other franchise have this kind of “fan base” like DC or Marvel?
Oh, Marvel has its fairshare of that. God forbid you say you liked any post Endgame project
@@joshhickeysmoviereviewsmost of them suck tbh but nwh and gotg 3 were good imo
I think what makes this so disappointing is that it did have some really interesting ideas and exciting parts like the duels. I really liked Sol's character and Qimir was interesting, but Mae and Osha just aren't very good main characters and the writing is all over the place. I also felt like the story was weirdly insulated, like I know some people are upset that Plagueis and Yoda had small cameos but I think they should've been featured more heavily, we were never with the jedi council, just in Vernestra's room all the time. The Jedi Order and Republic didn't feel large scale like they did in the prequels.
The show and its discourse was so crazy that Sean had to make a new face for the thumbnail
Star Wars a new hope is one of my first memories of cinema. I hold so much nostalgia and love for the original three movies and even the prequels I love the Lego games and the Lego sets I love learning about the lore I loved watching the animated shows and the force awakens. I liked Moore as a kid recently have kind of started to get more cynical on it and I’m somebody who is very mixed on the acolyte cause I feel like it started off really bad but then it started to get episode five but I can’t say it was great I wanna see what they do, so it has kept my interest and I didn’t the first season. I thought it was OK but I agree a lot of people it’s got a lot of problems I don’t know who to root for. But I hate the fact that the fandom has gotten so toxic to the point where it’s hard to talk to people passionately without making it controversial.
One side is toxic People with more than one brain cell calls it for what is - an absolutely abysmal piece of television. The "Acolytes" then use the race / diversity card which is ridiculous.
The Star wars fandom was never enjoyable since the Prequels. Will never forget how they bullied that poor boy Jake Flyod, he was just a kid.
Loved this . I’m 44 and big star wars fan . I loved every episode and can’t wait for season 2 .
I predicted this show was gonna be an absolute disaster like a year ago. All it took was getting to the showrunner, her intentions and boom! This show is DOA.
I feel your pain, Sean, and for me I'm just done being excited about Star Wars, which really sucks to have to acknowledge.
I was also excited for this show. Seeing a completely new era of Star Wars for the first time was exciting. After the first couple of episodes, I was still excited. I think they did a good job of building intrigue with the murder mystery aspects, and I was excited to see where they would go.
But as it went on, I started realizing how messy this was. I think you articulated it perfectly in that this was supposed to be when the Jedi were at the height of their power, but we have never seen them so corrupt and incompetent....
Hold up. Why was the *response* to the racist and sexist attacks the show received the first problem he cited here?
👀 Suspicious
Secondly, no, the show does not HAVE TO gives its viewpoint on the events on the events of the story. It gave us several perspectives on the events and it is up to us as the audience to decide who was right and who was wrong.
For example, there are many people in the "Sol did nothing wrong" camp as well as many in the "Sol is a symptom of a broken institution camp" (that's me). We're not in kindergarten anymore...both perspectives are valid. The point of this style of storytelling is to spark that kind of debate. The fact he cites this as a flaw is...disturbing.
Finally, if you want to see an authentic Dark Side fall story, you have to give room for the story to unfold. Fundamentally, this is a coming-of-age story for Osha. As she grows and fully conforms to her darkness, we (as the audience) should know that it is going to end in tragedy. She and Qimir are not going to live happily ever after. That doesn't mean every beat of her story has to be crackling with evil overtones like a Halloween character. Labeling the very beginning of her arc as "horrific morality" is pretty short-sighted.
@@hoos3014 Star Wars fans: I love sith characters. give us darker stuff.
Also Star Wars fans: I don’t understand Osha falling to the dark side. iS tHaT suPPoSeD to bE a gOoD tHiNg?!?”
While I was ultimately very disappointed and frustrated by this show, there was also a lot that I genuinely loved and think deserve a ton of praise. The stunt and choreography team absolutely killed it and I hope they work on future Star Wars projects. The elements of legends that were brought in for the first time to live action. The really solid VFX and art design. The first lightsaber bleed in live action. Honestly, I think this show could have pulled off an extremely satisfying character arc for Osha if the writing was better. The idea of a show that focuses on someone going dark because of lies they have been told is genuinely interesting. It feels like one of those shows that sounds like an absolute winner on paper, but then really falters in execution. Really frustrating writing, really baffling character choices, and really limiting episodes resulting in bad pacing...but I think I am still glad this show was made. I hope they give season 2 a shot with new writers because there truly were all the ingredients for a great story in here.
For me this was the worst piece of entertainment media I’ve ever seen and it’s the only thing I’ve ever rated a 0/10. Previously I would have said M Nights live action avatar, the marvels, or she-hulk at a 1/10. This series disappointed me in a beyond crushing and frustrating way
When you literally have a property based on an epic battle between good and evil, and you dress the bad guy's military as Nazis to convey that, and then you say: Actually, maybe the bad guys are fine, what does that say about your view of Nazis?
Are you talking about the empire? The empire isn’t even in the show and won’t exist for 100+ years. Even the people that turn into the empire are barely in the show
Star Wars hating has been going on since 1977. Look at all the bad reviews for the first movie. Some reviewers thought it was stupid and made for kids. The first 6 Star Wars has tons and tons of plot holes because George was adding stuff along the way for the Prequels which were then never mentioned in the Originals which happens years later like Qui-Gon Jinn and midi-chlorians which Obi-Wan and Yoda never speak about in the OGs.
You would think Obi-Wan would mention his former master at least once in the OGs but he’s never mentioned. Not even in private with Yoda. And if you want to go even further, where the hell is Ahsoka in all of this? Never mentioned at all in any of the 9 movies. Filoni makes it seem she’s so significant. R2-D2 did more for the rebellion than Ahsoka did. Star Wars has tons of continuity issues. In 3 of the 9 films, they used the same planet killer Death Star plot. Two of those from the OGs.
You should check The Acolyte subreddit with people liking the show. One person said it’s at least taking risks and killing off most of the main characters or at least the so-called good guys. But there’s an interesting discussion if Sol deserved to get killed or not? Was he more bad than how many of us perceive him? Bad as in doing bad things. Not necessarily evil.
*Thank* *you,* *The* *Acolyte*
www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/s/kb7vWMWtxF
You might have a different opinion on it when reading some of the more positive comments for it. Could The Acolyte be misunderstood? Or could it be so hated now but be appreciated years later like what the Prequels became? I’ve seen positive comments for The Acolyte coming from Star Wars fans of at least 30-40 years. And thirsty females / shippers like this Oshamir stuff as their dark side Reylo.
I still think The Acolyte sucks and is the worst thing that ever came out of Star Wars. But, I might compare it to when I owned an Atari Jaguar. I thought it was the worst video game console I ever had but I still have a soft spot for it. Sometimes being so bad can be looked upon as a cult classic years later. There are tons of people who love Godzilla movies and get a joy watching cheesy, campy fights with guys in rubber suits. Everybody processes information and media content differently.
The few positive aspects that The Acolyte did give us are…
- Qimir / The Stranger
- Best lightsaber fights since the Prequels
- Darth Plagueis
Plagueis could lead us to a young Palpatine series someday. What Star Wars Meg needs to talk about next is Darth Plagueis possibly being in a Season 2 of The Acolyte if we do get one. It’s the big WTF/OMG moment from Ep. 8. Yoda is my second favorite SW character ever but I didn’t care about his appearance. And more Abeloth talk in Season 2 of Ahsoka.
Star Wars Meg and Allen Xie of Generation Tech are at best when talking about Legends and stuff deeper into the lore. Shows like Ahsoka and The Acolyte are more like this providing more of the mystique of Star Wars than say Andor. The first Star Wars movie couldn’t beat a rom-com for Best Picture. George Lucas was always a hack of a writer. Zero Oscars for writing or Best Pic.
Have the haters watched any actual SW shows?
www.reddit.com/r/TheAcolyte/s/WIcQ64oXT2
I will admit The Acolyte did have superior fight choreography than Ahsoka. Not saying it was better than Ahsoka as an actual series, but it had far better fights.
Does anybody remember when Maul kicks Obi-Wan to a lower floor? You can see zero contact.
ruclips.net/video/qo__6MZIg6U/видео.htmlsi=At6rA5Epw0aKJWbi
My Disney+ SW Series Rankings
1. Andor
2. The Mandalorian
3. Ahsoka
4. Obi-Wan Kenobi
5. The Book of Boba Fett
6. The Acolyte
^ Or take the first two seasons of The Mandalorian and the first season of Andor and throw the rest in the trash.
A series that was always premised on the dark and light side of the force gets a show that conveys a message that all morality is gray...
Agreed
I am not sure how they can blame Sol for the first 2 deaths. Not only was he not at the place/time of their deaths, but he had witnesses from the Jedi Order around him that could prove he could of not done it. Also, how many Jedi died, and it does not send shock waves to the very top of the organization? Nobody asks questions? Do the writers think we are stupid?
They are several episodes in the clone wars that shows the flaws of the jedi.
I really don’t understand where your stance on modern Star Wars comes from or most of the fans. Everything is either “best of all time” amazing or “extremely bad”
This show is like a solid 7.5.
Really frustrated with the show. For the longest time I wanted Star Wars to tackle a different time period, but leave that to Disney Star Wars to somehow even mess that up. I’m personally gonna give the show like a 3/10 for actively imploding lore and worldbuilding, janky character writing and writing in general, boring characters, among other things like the unbelievable waste of potential.
Of the 24 shows I’ve ranked this year, this is easily going in last, and that number will only get worse as the year goes on. Andor S2 and Visions is the only thing I’m trusting out of Disney Star Wars moving forward…
Honestly, 3.5 seems pretty generous!
@@OrthoLou yknow what? You’re absolutely right. Should give this like a 3 or a 2.5. Thx 👍
@@NinthShinigamiI agree with you. Honestly with the exception of season 2 of Andor I probably won’t watch Star Wars any more. If you don’t mind me asking what are your thoughts about rebooting Star Wars entirely?
@@cooperwolfe5478 I'm actually down for a Star wars animated film series reboot. They could start by doing the original trilogy as faithfull as possible & then follow it up by adapting the best legend novels with a few changes for the sake of consistency, quality & continuity. Basically an Fma: Brotherhood treatment. Still not a huge Star wars fan but I've heard lots of great stuff about the legend novels. My friends are the ones who came up with this idea.
The only thing they got right is the fight scenes.
I thought that the show was terrible; it really felt pointless, and the writing all around was pretty horrendous. It’s right at the bottom of my Star Wars ranking. I hope that future projects will return to the ideals of the Jedi and good vs evil.
I agree. I liked Sean’s idea of make the Jedi heroic but slightly hint at what led their downfall. Also I agree with Sean that this doesn’t even feel like it’s a hundred years before the prequels
This is off topic, but Sean now has a merch shelf! Sean’s viewers can now buy his merchandise through RUclips. I know this isn’t mind blowing, but it’s worth pointing out if you’re considering buying Sean’s merchandise.
Bazel sabotaging Sol is my most confused scene in the entire show. Like didn’t he just try and stop Mae two episodes ago with no new information found. I don’t get it. I screamed at my screen. What is happening???
@@carterko19_59 I assumed Bazel was planning to kill Mae. He’d put the targeting lock on her ship
@@davidgeisler9885 Sol was about to kill her, but the Bazel messed it up for no reason.
@@carterko19_59 killing Mae at that point could have lead to an even worse outcome and maybe Bazel knows it. Gotta wait and see!
That said, Sol killing Mae likely tips Sol over the edge and Bazel also may have known that.
Do you agree sol killing Mae at that point would be a bad outcome?
@@davidgeisler9885 No.
I enjoyed this show at the beginning but it went downhill. Love clowning on how bad I thought it was but I’m grateful that it gave me something to watch and laugh about with friends.
As a big fan of the High Republic books and comics, I was a little bit disappointed in the show. I don't feel like it reaches the highs of those stories that I love. That being said, there are definitely things I enjoyed. The lightsaber battles were great in my opinion, and Sol was a phenomenal character. Hopefully the writers can take the good ideas present and expand on them in a potential second season.
Total 💯 agreement with you Sean. You've captured the whole thing.
And yeah what the fk was that little mouse creature doing,? Whyyy did he sabotage the ship???
You expressed all and when I mean all I mean every single frustration on point😬😬, honestly I never felt so frustrated ever since I saw the last Jedi in theatres 😮💨😮💨
I love Lee Jung Jae (Sol). They should’ve also imported Korean drama writers for this because they are the masters of writing tragedy due to misunderstanding.
Always nail it
The only redeeming quality about this show in my opinion was how the combat was shot. Besides that, everything else was AWFUL. This is the worst mainline Star Wars movie or series ever made and it’s not even close to be honest - Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi are like The Wire and The Sopranos compared to this show.
The thing is, this is not the first time that people have been extremely toxic regarding Star Wars
The Last Jedi was FULL of nasty negativity, hate and prejudice from multiple different angles
It mostly came from a good place, this was the first taste people got that shitty morals and ethics would be written into Star Wars and it was hard for people, especially since it happened to a beloved character, its like finding out your uncle you grew up with, you looked up to him was a serial killer of children.
The ending reads pretty tragic to me! Sorry Sean don’t understand where you’ve landed on Sol was the villain.
It’s a dark story with a dark ending, nothing good about it. We can only hope Osha turns it back around in future stories.
Reckon you’ve read too much into it. Don’t forget Darth Plagues is back with Qimir thete is nothing good about Osha’s choice.
It’s a tragedy story.
How was he the villian when he was the one who was provoked?
Brilliant review sir !!! I was so lost this was awful
Honestly, I thought it was fine. Could've been condensed into a movie or fleshed out properly if it had 12 episodes.
I agree with most of your points except for one, I don't feel like Sol was that likeable of a character, he seemed shady just to add "mystery" with no real reason to be, I felt like there were 3 likeable chracters: Indara, Jecki, and just for the sake of seeing a wookie Jedi, Kelnacca. But they misused and murdered them first chance they got.
Yeah it's unfortunate that society as a whole have seemed to lose the ability to have civil discussions. I ultimately did hate the show, but I acknowledge that is my opinion and some love it and that's fine and they aren't wrong, nor am I. I wish we could all be able to just disagree civilly.
Oh it is not just you! This show was disappointing, is putting it kindly. The writers had no idea what they were doing. I do agree with your assessment of this show, 100%! It was terrible!
I feel like the focus of the show should’ve been Qimir.
Yep.
It was far from perfect, very mid. But I loved the premise. I just wished they treated the Jedi like heroes. Also the lack of redemption for Sol was really disappointing, probably the most disappointing for me
I was greatly disappointed by this. I watched Star Wars for The first time on my 8th Birthday (watched Phantom Menace) and I fell in love with it and has stuck with me throughout my whole childhood I remember the joy of finally watching a Star Wars movie on the big screen for ep7 (I was 11 years old, 15 by the time ep9 came out) and I have fond memories for the sequels as despite there flaws I grew up with them and gave me a lot of joy seeing Star Wars on the big screen (so yes I do love the sequels). As a 20-year-old now this show felt to me like a betrayal of why I love Star Wars the tales of good vs evil was why I fell in love with it so to me this was just a step too far.
What I find is there’s a number of content creators who either trash or praise everything; and when they do that I find it hard to buy into them because I don’t believe their being truthful.
Before we go to new time periods we need a GOOD episode 7
We need a GOOD revisit to Luke
One in which he is at least allowed to train one padawan that lives
And I don’t want it to predate or fall in the same canon as the “sequel trilogy”: the events of the sequels do so much damage that they belong in an alternate universe, that is if Disney still wants our money
The Jedi of the High Republic are the guardians of peace and justice but most know this is set during the end of the High Republic. Read the books and comics if you want. Vernestra Rwoh in the books and comics is a completely different character who follows the Will of the Force instead of the the Will of the Jedi. The High Republic series isn't over so something major has to happen to have her start down the wrong path.
Not surprising that this is what you get when you let the former personal assistant to Harvey Weinstein make a Star Wars show 😂
There are trolls and bots. Most people are normal and can have honest conversations. We can be critical and hate a show or movies. I've never seen death threats or threats of violence. Ive seen people call each other incels or losers. Dumb or ridicolous but thats the worst ive seen. Comment section can be hyperbole. I think toxicity is exagerated but there def a few bad eggs combine with trolls and bots. Ai is making harder to tell the difference. I mostly hate disney products in last 5 years. I mostly loved disney products the previous 10 years.
The reason why Sol was treated the way he did is because he ultimately was corrupt. It doesnt matter if the mom qas turning into a smoke demon, the Jedi had no reason to be there. He was told by the council not to interfere and then manipulated Osha's jedi test. He was obviously falling to the dark side because of EMOTIONS. Just bevause he's a very cool and likable, doesnt mean he didnt do anything wrong. Amd in the end, had the jedi nor been on Brendok, none of this would have happened. Even to the very end, Sol is trying to justify it. He was stuck in denial and thats why he was never able to properly train Osha. I like what they did with Sol's arc
I absolutely echo your frustrations. However, given the track record of Disney SW (especially lately), I believe some people’s expectations for this were too much. Especially when you see who was in charge of it. Were you really expecting top tier content? That’s giving them way too much credit for the disappointing things they’ve been putting out.
TBOBF was better. OWK was better. Mando S3 was better. Ahsoka was better. I'm not afraid to say that.
I would disagree on TBOBF and OWK.
I rewatched book of Boba Fett recently and it was way better than I remembered. I’ve watched Kenobi at least 3 times, I liked it the first time. But every time I rewatch it, I like it less and less and start to understand why people hate on it.
My Personal Ranking of Star Wars Live Action Shows
6. Obi-Wan Kenobi
5. The Book of Boba Fett
4. The Acolyte (my opinion), don’t give me crap for it.
3. Ahsoka
2. The Mandalorian
1. Andor
@@theepicdude0002 My ranking...
6. The Acolyte
5. The Book of Boba Fett
4. Obi-Wan Kenobi
3. Andor
2. Ahsoka
1. The Mandalorian
Agreed the acolyte was truly awful
In regards to everyone bringing in politics to this show, aren’t there interviews of the cast making fun of the fans? It’s the same as Rachel Zegler’s interview for Snow White.
Those last 3 episodes were ROUGHHH🤣
As middling as the show was for the most part, I loved the themes this show tried to explore and I thought this finale was terrific and maybe the best episode of the season. Episode 3 is still an absolute dumpster fire with horrible child actors and the cult and its abilities remain bafflingly ill-defined, but the questions of morality, power and the nature of the jedi itself that this show raises are interesting ones. The overall journey of our 2 leads might have been frustrating and downright boring at times but this finale leaves the story in a very exciting place in my opinion.
I stopped watching after episode two and it was because it just felt so painfully mid the dialogue was awful and in my opinion I felt like this show could’ve been great but it wasn’t for me