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COPYING a SAAB 93 TRIONIC ECU OUT OF THE CAR
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- Hey guys and welcome back to the channel.
I am going to show how a trionic flasher off the car works, but in addition hear me carefully and you might be able to creat one of your own for less than a 30$ from a commonly available items.
If you managed to do so, with some little experience, You can actually make some money offering the service for saab owners worldwide as dealers worldwide are disappearing and the ECUs are one of the top known issues with the 93.
As promised in the video, i managed to add this link which will show you the pins im talking about in the ECU side.
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Enjoy the video
Hey guys, thanks to my subscribers, please correct the connections as follows, pin 6 on the ecu goes to pin 14 on the obd, pin5 on the ecu goes to pin 6 on the obd, and add a ground connection to pin 4 on the obd port ..
Cheers
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Hello！Ecu 5- -Obd 4,6, is that so?
I think you forgot to mention you need pin 4 at OBD as well to be connected to the ground which is "chassis ground" in order to work properly. I follow your instruction and never worked and then I read about the OBD wiring diagram and now it works perfectly. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
U r absolutely right .. Thank you
Thanks for sharing! Hopefully this can help to keep many NG 9-3 on the roads. Great job!
Could you made a video of making that adapter? I'd like to have one like that and got the parts from a donor car 😁
Nice can't wait to watch the video. My ecu t8 might be going bad and I might need to do this
thank you for your saab videos
You are amazing my dude
hello i am following your set up ,in your video you said connect both 6 together. On the ECU number 6 is can low on the obd connector 6 is can high, should it be 5 pin ecu can high and 6 on the OBD connector can high , YOU WILL HAVE CAN HIGH AND LOW CONNECTED TOGETHER , please can you check thanks shaun
Tell u the truth, its been a while since ive done that, so give it a try as instructed the video, and if it doesn’t work then flip them, it wouldn’t hurt anything .
Note that, i forgot to mention in the video, that pin4 in the obd plug should be connected to ground as well.
Good luck
So can u just tap into the can high amd low and leave the ecu on the car or does it have to cone out of the car to do this as was thinking of no power source and just use the power off the car
Ok, great video but I’m unsure what wires to connect to from my junk yard ecu/ecm plug and harness. Pics only ever show from the male pins not the female plug with all the wiring 🤷🏻♂️
I did mention all the pin numbers in the video .
The Flying MechanicDIY I’ll have to look at it again but all diagrams don’t relate to the female plug with wires.
Will, u have to match the male from the ECU to the female in the connector
what is the name of the interface equipment already brings the software to read and write clone all the immobilizer information
Hello . Small request. If it's not difficult, please tell me the exact pinout. There are a lot of options on the internet.
Tell me, please, which adapter are you using (with red cord in the video)? What is the model and how much does it cost?
OBDLink SX .. 40$
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY thanks
Hey i was wondering, if you clone an ECU that works as it should, would it be possible to start the car on both ECU's? So you can have an ECU with a stock map on, and an ECU with a remap on?
Yes ..
How to wire obdlink sx to t7ecu?
One day we're gonna run out of ECUs the way these cars gobble them up.
Its actually happening now ..
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY You're right. Mine chewed one up and spit it out after less than 4,000 miles (6,500 km). Prices were 3 times higher than last year.
I've seen a couple of video's of the ecu kit to raise and use a heatproof plate but quite expensive.
I spent £5 on ebay for some T6 anti vibration damper mounts, and just lifted my ecu up from contact manifold heat sorce which lets air pass underneath better too. So hopefully less heat into ecu and less vibration = longer lasting.
Hi,
Do you know if Trionic Can Flasher would read and write a 2005 Cadillac CTS 3.6 ME9.6 ECM,
TxSuite site says OBDlink SX not supporting ME9.6.
Just use J2534 Mongoose or Cardaq?
Thanks
Bosfh ECUs are not supported by OBDLINK SX .. u will need one of the other adapters
Can you do a video on how to get security access for your tech 2 I can’t program any of my keys because of it
do you have a laptop with either TSI2000 or GlobalTIS installed ?
The Flying MechanicDIY yes
You have both programs? You got to the point where the tech2 specifically asks you to get security access?
jbarah05 watch this video starting 4:30 .. ruclips.net/video/vSSejv6wsck/видео.html
يسعد مساك اخي العزيز
كيف ممكن تساعدني بنقل المعلومات
من ecu تبع ساب ٩٣ سنة ٢٠٠٣ فيه اعطال
السياره ما بشتغل ل.ecu تاني
الك جزيل الشكر
اهلا فيك .. بأي بلد انت ؟
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY انا من بدو مدينة بئر السبع تحت احتلال اسرائيل
@@ibrahemsana5413 طيب كيف بدي اساعدك اخوي
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY
اذا ببعتلك في البريد ecu الخربان
+واحد مستعمل. وببعتلك حواله
في وسترن يونيون بالتكاليف
مع جزيل الشكر
@@ibrahemsana5413 ما في مشكلة .. بس بدي تتأكد انه الكمبيوتر القديم فيو اتصال .. ف بدك تشبك جهاز عليها تقرأ اخطاء كمبيوتر المحرك وتتأكد انك بتقدر تقرأ اخطاء منه .. هيك بكون تأكدنا انه في اتصال .. اذا ما فات الجهاز عليها صعب ابرمجها عندي
Just watched your video can you give us links to that home made adapter to get the parts needed please
www.amazon.com/MasTrack-Extension-Extender-Diagnostic-Flexible/dp/B01N0VE0JW/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=obd+extension&qid=1589486762&sr=8-2
www.amazon.com/Yunnyp-Cigarette-Lighter-Battery-Alligator/dp/B07WH1T62D/ref=mp_s_a_1_24?dchild=1&keywords=cigarette+lighter+charger+aligator&qid=1589486868&sr=8-24
I used these plus the ECU connector from a junkyard
Great video as always. I know that this is not the right place to express my concern but i would be pleased if you could help me.
Past week I bought my first saab 9-3 2.0t 2006 sportcombi. I need help from you to diagnose p1682 (Plausibility fault between voltage feed from +15 and main relay). Sometimes it will also throw P0638 and the car cant go beyond 4k rpm.
Thank you!
Check the big grey connector underneath the battery (connector # H24-2). Make sure no corrosion, damage, all pins are sitting at normal height and are tight. If that checks ok, swap relay #4 on the small fuse box in-front of the battery, if that doesnt resolve P1682 then replace engine computer. Inspect throttle body for any damage, excessive dirt or binding, if it checks ok in addition to the check made at first step, replace Throttle body . Cheers
Any tutorial how to make that adaptor? Or Where to buy?
u cant buy it ready, u will have to make ur own, i assumed i has enough info in the video to make ur own, its literally the easiest thing ive ever had to do
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY No dude, you assume wrong! You have zero information on making that adapter. The picture you linked only shows the ECU plug. There is nothing on where to connect it to that ODB connector thing you buy from amazon. If you want to help make a detailed explanation on this please. Everyone is asking for the same thing. How to make that desktop adaptor. Thx
@@petezzzz i have zero information!!! Well, i made that adapter and been using it to do business for years .. if u just listen to the instructions
Are you in the US? I need a flashed ecu for my saab.
Unfortunately not, im located in DUBAI.
I will offer anything free of charge if you want to take care of shipping.
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY That's unfortunate. I appreciate the offer though, thanks.
Hi
my saab has a 2.0T engine and 210 hp and I want to replace the ECU with another ECU from a saab 2.0t and 175 hp can it be compatible? Ca i flash ?
With this method anything is compatible ..
UPDATE* it workes now :) w/ Pin5-->Pin6 & Pin6-->Pin14
Hi there. I have tried it. No connection (with both ECUs).
I have a Windows 10 64 bit Computer... is this maybe the problem ?
Or in other words: Why do you use Windows 7 (and possibly 32bit)
There are many variables, im sorry i dont know if a 64 win10 works or not
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY Hi. It works great with Windows 10 & 64 bit.. Had success:
BUT: I am pretty sure you explained the CAN pins wrong. You said Pin-6 to Pin-6 but it is wrong)
@@thomaskung1865 just follow the links in the video description for the correct pins
I actually pinned a comment a while ago correcting the info
I'm getting p0201 p0202 p0203 p0204 p0420 and p0245. I checked all fuel injectors and sea foamed ones that seemed not ticking fully (using screwdriver test). Cleared codes and then they come back every 20 miles or so. Do you believe ecu is the culprit?
Car seems to run fine when codes are cleared.
ECU has failed
Hi.
I tried to clone my ECU following every process step by step as you did in the bench ecu flash, but it didn't work, it keep telling me 'fail to get security access'.
I tried it out in the car directly still same fail to get security access. What do I do? How do I get it work. Or is there a way to get the security access that I didn't know?
Contact me on my email from the channel info page , attach a photo of the error .. will try to help u
I will mail you
ruclips.net/video/i--Cla7MMuo/видео.html
Attached is the video of my attempts. The video is too large for email, so I had to upload to youtube and share the link. Please I need help
I just had a look at it, things to consider :
Having the latest version of trionic flasher. Latest driver of ur adapter. And finally i would recommend a different adapter, there is no big success with the ELM adapters, the most successful adapter is the OBDLINKsx
I've tried it with the latest tronic software, but it didn't work. Same problem am facing. It has been a problem that have taken sleep away from my eyes for weeks now. I need my baby car to to be on the track again. If you don't mind, can I post it to you to fix this problem for me?
Because I got the obdlink ex from eBay last week.
Now let me give you the complete details. I ordered for obdlink so and the seller posted obdlink ex. I was supposed to receive the second package elm modified which is yet to arrive. I've waited for ages for the second elm modified obdlink. I was scammed. The guy said he posted it through royal mail with no tracking number and ebay is yet to reply me for the past 1 month. Can I post it to you to fix the problem please.
If you can please send me your contact on johnugbor@gmail.com so I can post it to you. Am currently confused. I need my baby ride to be on road again.
Thanks
what software do you use in your pc?
Trionic can flasher ..
Hello,
Saab 93, Year 2004, B207R, 55353231
I have a Saab tuned to stage 1. Approx 255hp. Unfortunately, it seems that my ecu is failing cause random misfires intermittent-periodically and vibration from the engine. So, I bought a second hand ecu with the same part number as mine.
My biggest questions are that:
1) If I’m going to clone my ecu to the «newone» at the end i will have 255hp again, right?
2) How i can ensure that my map it will be on the new second hand ecu?
3) if a mechanic clones mine to the new second hand, the new it will be the same as mine at the moment, right?
4) You have another video, older than that. You are showing how to swap ecu. Its the same result?
Maybe are a bit stupid questions for a knower but for me is very important.
Thanks in advance
If the ECU is cloned, then the map and tune from the old ECU will be transferred to the new one.
If the ECU is swapped using the tech2 method, then the new ECU will have the default map and tune.
Dis that answer all ur questions ?
By the way, who tuned ur car and if he used a well known tuning package or not, like HIRSH/MAPTUN ?
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY Thanks for your answer.
So off course I’m going for cloning so the result it will be the same as i have now.
My map is from Dion Netherlands. Is a good tuner specialist for Saabs, but i think he makes maps for others car brands as well.
@@apostolisr8556 i would suggest u install the new ECU without cloning and make sure it has the correct software for the car, and see how the car run with it, if it runs great, then clone the old one into the new one and see if it still runs good, if not then the tune might be the issue
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY Ok, its a good idea. I have had the rough running (vibration) before the tune, when it was completely stock. The misfiring is new symptom.
If I’m going to do it step by step i have to use the other way (swap ecu) that you are describing at the older video, right?
I mean we can have access at the stock map from my tuned ecu? Or now the ecu is tuned and we can’t reach the factory map behind the tune?
Or i have to buy again the stock map 210hp?
@@apostolisr8556 the tuned ECU have only the tuned map, the new ECU should have the stock one
I cloned an ecm from an 05 to an 07 ECM and now I get a check engine light and a code for something about the knock detection circuit. I thought the part numbers didn't matter when flashing?
Did u clone it using the trionic flasher software ? And did u clone both parts of the ECU, the MAIN & the MCP ?
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY yes, I started with MCP and then the T8 using trionic can flash. Everything on the forums said part numbers wouldn't matter when flashed. Not sure why it behaves this way. The car is a manual and I even re added it with the Tech 2.
Then u actually have a problem with the car.. why did u change the ECU in first place ? And what is the exact code ?
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY The ECM was going bad. I got the plausibility fault code and the car was dumping fuel, which is usually how the ECM behaves when it goes bad (I have owned 5 9-3s so this is my experience) I pulled the T8 mcp and main from the ECM and flashed it to another and I get a code for the knock sensor which I did not get before. I will have to pull the code again and take a look. The ECM does have a different part number but all the people on trionic tuning said it does not matter (with the exception of some Opel models.
what is the exact code
Hello friend, I have my device ready and I have spliced the cables (I have not soldered yet), I would like you to help me verify or check that my connections are correct, could you help me, you will have a contact email to be able to send you my connections. Greetings and thanks.
Hey man, use the email from the ABOUT section of the channel