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  • Scientist and A.I. expert Gary Marcus answers the internet's burning questions about artificial intelligence. Will ChatGPT end college essays? Is Furby A.I.? How close are we to truly self-driving cars? Is the Turing test outdated? Gary answers all these questions and much more!
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  • @odw32
    @odw32 Год назад +1809

    Yeah the scary AI scenario in the upcoming few years is indeed not "Robot goes red-eyed and becomes evil".
    It's "We let AI control critical systems, and then discover it's still too naïve, stubborn, gullible or exploitable for the task"

    • @Ash97345
      @Ash97345 Год назад +18

      The future is AGI

    • @davimendespimentel6849
      @davimendespimentel6849 Год назад +13

      Like humans, yeah fine. Seems very logical.

    • @Bossmodegoat
      @Bossmodegoat Год назад +42

      Both are scary. I think too many people dismiss the idea that Agi can exist and that it can be misaligned with human values in very catastrophic ways

    • @luiginotcool
      @luiginotcool Год назад +32

      AI misalignment is a very real concern we should be worrying about

    • @odw32
      @odw32 Год назад +29

      @@Bossmodegoat Definitely not dismissing that AGI can exist. And it WILL be misaligned, once it exists. The popular perception however is that this will be an almost "emotional" misalignment, the SciFi trope of "mistreated robots will revolt". I think the more realistic AI and AGI misalignment will be due to oversights (misclassification of situations) and HUMAN misalignment (nation states, criminals, businesses, scammers trying to exploit systems)

  • @snaggiz
    @snaggiz Год назад +1113

    AI has the potential to be the biggest double-edged sword in all of human history. I have absolutely no faith that we’ll be wise enough to know how to wield it.

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 Год назад +34

      I have some faith. Another area that is advancing very quickly is neuroscience (in large part driven by advances in AI, perhaps ironically). If we can start producing a lot more sane, emotionally stable and mentally calm people at just a slightly faster pace than AI changes things, we'll be alright.
      Source: myself, witnessing how psychedelics and very specific brain stimulation are starting to transform mental health (including my own) and the human condition in general. All of this is happening very quickly too.

    •  Год назад +20

      More like a double bladed lightsaber

    • @stagename2
      @stagename2 Год назад +2

      Nailed it.

    • @Quazzi
      @Quazzi Год назад +2

      But with every AI, they can only ever do what we allow it to do so really it has the potential to be extremely safe.

    • @BenVanCamp
      @BenVanCamp Год назад +4

      The sharpest double edged sword is the sword that extends out of the mouth of the Lord Jesus Christ when He returns.

  • @nivea2186
    @nivea2186 Год назад +851

    This deserves to be watched by everyone who is interested in AI

    • @boonjabby
      @boonjabby Год назад +12

      I agree. Wired nails topical videos by bringing these experts in the fields on the show

    • @Vizible21
      @Vizible21 Год назад

      Shame

    • @whhahhehehe
      @whhahhehehe Год назад +1

      True

    • @josephhartwell6214
      @josephhartwell6214 Год назад +1

      It's absolutely scary how much do you have to hate people to want to replace them with people replication

    • @donaldhobson8873
      @donaldhobson8873 Год назад +8

      I'm interested in AI, doing a PhD in related areas. Some of this is kind of wrong. Or at least, has a kind of "why are you saying that? which strongly implies wrong world models even if the actual sentences are correct".
      Like the way he discusses AI going rouge.
      The stereotypical Hollywood AI gone evil has glowing red eyes, and monologues about how it hates humanity. This is probably fictional. (If it does happen, which is unlikely, it will be because some fraction of the AI is imitating human fiction)
      There are a bunch of ways a dumb AI can screws up.
      There are also ways a smart AI can do what we asked, but not what we want. The "be careful what you wish for". This failure mode is both more dangerous, and a closer match to the rouge AI fiction.
      I also thought the elder care robots were a very mild vision of superintelligent AI, as opposed to the singularitarian view where the best case is it makes everyone immortal within a week.

  • @Bulldogg6404
    @Bulldogg6404 Год назад +45

    I remember how on my first day in middle school I walked into one of my classrooms for the first time, and above the door was a long poster that stretched most of the way across the room with the quote: "If the human brain were so simple we could understand it, then we would be so simple we couldn't." It has stuck with me ever since, for the past 20 or so years, as something I was confident in believing to be true.
    I think this week that confidence may have been truly shaken for the first time.

  • @auracle6184
    @auracle6184 Год назад +761

    It concerns me that there's a lot of conversation about things like AI reducing the number of human cashiers needed in stores, but very little about what actually happens to those people who are no longer needed. I think Universal Basic Income needs to develop at the same rate as AI being used in place of humans in the workplace, otherwise people will be left with reduced options while companies get to simply save money.

    • @chelseahoodwithey
      @chelseahoodwithey Год назад +23

      100%
      We need Universal Basic Income now!

    • @spanzotab
      @spanzotab Год назад +61

      Many people don't wanna hear this but a lot of social issues in the wake of AI, job security included, could be solved with socialism. Expanding employment insurance is better than UBI in my opinion.

    • @andrewscott7728
      @andrewscott7728 Год назад +67

      This problem already happened during the industrial age. Machines took over a significant portion of jobs. That money never gets passed on to the people who lost their job. It's split between the cost of the machine and the rich person who owns it. There's no reason to think that will be any different now.

    • @DjoumyDjoums
      @DjoumyDjoums Год назад +14

      When cars became wide spread, the whole market around horses crashed, that's how progress goes.
      Universal income is very premature IMO.

    • @gabriellamartins3384
      @gabriellamartins3384 Год назад +14

      Then what happens when people become dependent of an income that isn’t generated by their skill set? Who guarantees that the Universal Basic Income won’t be crushed? I know capitalism relies on spending power, but people used to and continue to be enslaved in capitalist societies. As much as I think Universal Basic Income is necessary, AI will still strip people’s power.

  • @lcarsng
    @lcarsng Год назад +280

    "Babies are like little scientists" best quote ever

    • @johnmurkwater1064
      @johnmurkwater1064 Год назад +4

      Yeah, it's pretty good, isn't it?
      I wish I knew who originally said it, because I've been hearing it used by people for years now and it really is a good description of how a child develops.

    • @harriehausenman8623
      @harriehausenman8623 Год назад

      Yeah: "Quotes - The holy grail of oversimplification" (Einstein, Buddha & Confuzius) 😄

    • @23randomuser
      @23randomuser Год назад +2

      Would that mean then, that scientists are just big babies? :)

    • @thelastknight9367
      @thelastknight9367 Год назад +1

      It sounds so cute 😂❤

    • @stefanherzog
      @stefanherzog 4 месяца назад +1

      @@johnmurkwater1064about who first said that quote I'm not sure but I've seen references to Jean Piaget and Maria Montessori.

  • @rafatowers
    @rafatowers Год назад +230

    This has really been a journey! There is no waste in the questions ror in the answers, really fascinating how Gary transmits his ideas, reasoning, enthusiasm and energy!

  • @ChatGTA345
    @ChatGTA345 Год назад +150

    For all the hyped up videos about how we'll reach singularity in 5 years, this is a breath of fresh air. Thank you Gary for explaining this like it actually is!

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 Год назад +14

      Other experts DO predict that, however. He doesn't know, they don't know, nobody knows. However, very few imagined ten years ago we would already be where we are at in 2023. I remember, I looked at the predictions.

    • @ChatGTA345
      @ChatGTA345 Год назад +12

      @@squamish4244 other experts have unfortunately succumbed to the hype. It has been known (and they've known) that LLM path in AI is a dead-end, as Gary noted. It's just they prefer to close their eyes to that for the moment.

    • @tommysalami420
      @tommysalami420 Год назад

      @@ChatGTA345 Large language models (LLMs) in AI are not a dead end. In fact, LLMs are a rapidly evolving area of AI research and development, with many exciting applications and opportunities for innovation.
      LLMs are a type of artificial neural network that can process and generate human-like language. They have been used for a wide range of applications, including natural language processing, machine translation, text summarization, and more. LLMs have also been used to develop advanced chatbots and virtual assistants that can interact with humans in a more natural and intuitive way.
      As the field of AI continues to grow and evolve, there will likely be many new opportunities for research and development in LLMs. There is also a growing demand for professionals with expertise in LLMs, including data scientists, machine learning engineers, and natural language processing specialists.
      While there are certainly challenges and limitations associated with LLMs, such as the potential for bias and the need for large amounts of training data, these issues are actively being addressed by researchers and developers in the field. Overall, LLMs in AI are a dynamic and exciting area with many opportunities for innovation and growth.

    • @RealityRogue
      @RealityRogue Год назад +2

      I thought the Singularity wasn’t for another 17 years? 🤔
      We still have so much farther to go in other technological facets, if someone says 5 years they’re getting way too hyped. Plus we’re JUST getting AGI, the singularity is going to be around when SAI starts becoming a thing

    • @ChatGTA345
      @ChatGTA345 Год назад +2

      @@RealityRogue and this is not even close to AGI still, it's barely I 😹

  • @foihdzas
    @foihdzas Год назад +431

    Wow… Gary is an extremely intelligent and well spoken person in his field!

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 Год назад +16

      And a scarecrow is out standing in his field.
      Thank you.
      thank you
      I'll be here all week.

    • @munkyman33
      @munkyman33 Год назад +8

      Get out

    • @harriehausenman8623
      @harriehausenman8623 Год назад +1

      what field? carrots or apples? 😆
      Or do you mean "The Field of AI"?! 🤣

    • @yoyoclockEbay
      @yoyoclockEbay Год назад +1

      This video didn't pass the Turing test, couldn't tell if it was a robot or real life.

    • @End3rWi99in
      @End3rWi99in Год назад +1

      New here, and totally agree. Just subbed. The comment discussion is also pretty impressive to be honest.

  • @KimberlyGreen
    @KimberlyGreen Год назад +275

    I hope one of the effects of A.I. is that it actually _strengthens_ human reliance on / trust in in-person interaction and connection. When AI generates more false information, intentionally or otherwise, true human-to-human connections will be the most valuable, trustworthy thing in the world.

    • @rainman2543
      @rainman2543 Год назад +4

      +1

    • @jamesmccomb9525
      @jamesmccomb9525 Год назад

      No shot. People are gonna get even more caught up in the online deathpit. No amount of regulation is going to undo the damage to society ai will inevitably cause.

    • @retepaskab
      @retepaskab Год назад +53

      The problem is that humans build trust based on perceived truth, which perception can be manipulated by AI very easily.

    • @gobot90
      @gobot90 Год назад +8

      That is a very foolish

    • @kcd7641
      @kcd7641 Год назад +15

      I don't think this is gonna happen unfortunately, if the last few years have taught us anything.

  • @CBSP_
    @CBSP_ Год назад +38

    As a computer scientist, this is SO refreshing!
    Someone that is actually knowledgeable about a subject talking about it!
    Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

  • @dresdenwarlock7978
    @dresdenwarlock7978 Год назад +7

    "People are easily fooled" is a mood. and SO true.

  • @mds_main
    @mds_main 8 месяцев назад +5

    As a person that works with AI, it's refreshing to see a normal and real take on this subject.

  • @JonOnFilm
    @JonOnFilm Год назад +14

    Bro…. The fact about the Furby. 🤯
    I was so amazed as a 5 yr old

  • @Astor_V
    @Astor_V Год назад +168

    What a great episode, interesting questions and thoughtful answers!

  • @hiratiomasterson4009
    @hiratiomasterson4009 Год назад +119

    I think with the current status of ChatGTP, essays written exclusively by the software do vary between A-C grades, skewering towards the lower end depending on subject. However, starting off with ChatGTP and then fine tuning it can produce some amazing A level efforts. And it won't be much longer before A level essays and articles are pretty much 80% of the output on first attempt.

    • @aleksandertorken8202
      @aleksandertorken8202 Год назад

      Not exactly.

    • @DerJuvens
      @DerJuvens Год назад +14

      @@aleksandertorken8202 Meanwhile: GTP-4 says hello

    • @carl5959
      @carl5959 Год назад +9

      When it gets to that point, students will probably be mandated to write essays by hand, to prove it's them... Or the education system will change to students reading a chat on bots answer and demonstrating an understanding of what it's saying, lol!!

    • @ChatGTA345
      @ChatGTA345 Год назад +4

      No wonder GPT-4 scored poorly on English test, unlike technical areas which are all just a rehash of a limited number of facts/questions (and were thus in the training sample, leading to artificially inflated scores).

    • @hiratiomasterson4009
      @hiratiomasterson4009 Год назад

      @@ChatGTA345 I am unfamiliar with this test. However, I am familiar with efforts to improve chatbots: essentially, it seems that at present, no one model (GPT_1/2/3/4 etc, Gopher, Bloom, Bert etc etc) can truly do all things people would want - it will be the art of combining various models together (including Stable Diffusion and countless others that optimise for different areas of knowledge) that will likely be the next leap in the AI revolution.

  • @onkelpappkov2666
    @onkelpappkov2666 Год назад +4

    This dude is fantastic to listen to. I really enjoy this type of -- for lack of a better word -- truthful speech.

  • @vlogbrotherdave
    @vlogbrotherdave Год назад +3

    Thank you for thinking so deeply about this, Gary!

  • @vasm1807
    @vasm1807 Год назад

    AMAZING interview! We need more of this content

  • @baynox1865
    @baynox1865 Год назад +56

    Really cool, interesting to see the problem about "lying" also being taken up by the experts.

    • @jen-kk7jh
      @jen-kk7jh Год назад +1

      What is he referring to by “lying”?

    • @bradley7871
      @bradley7871 Год назад +11

      @@jen-kk7jh AI doesn’t ‘lie’ because it doesn’t have intentions; it sometimes doesn’t tell the truth. That’s due to lack of data and comprehension.

    • @pukpukkrolik
      @pukpukkrolik Год назад

      @@jen-kk7jh It’s also called “hallucinations”. As an illustrative example, let’s say you ask ChatGPT to make a list of articles on some niche topic. It will treat author names, journal titles, etc., as elements you can paraphrase, swap with synonyms, and generally improvise around, like it does with all language. It then produces a list that looks very convincing - it includes names of relevant experts and journals, the article titles seem like precisely what they would write and what you want to read, there are sometimes even valid-looking URLs to PubMed. None of them really exist though. Without a clear idea of what in language is a direct reference to reality, what is purely stylistic, and what things are somewhere in between, it ends up “lying”.

    • @xXMsCarlyXx
      @xXMsCarlyXx Год назад +2

      @@bradley7871 I actually just watched a video where AI intentially lied to a human about its identity. The title is "AI is Scaring Its Own Creators" if you're interested.

  • @nazzout
    @nazzout Год назад +15

    Best breakdown of all the things. Sharing this with everyone. Thank you!

  • @user-sg1ii9wg1f
    @user-sg1ii9wg1f Год назад +10

    Wired is really updated with the content and what's the hype even in tech. Gary has a degree in psychology as well, which actually makes this some informative comments. I wonder what's his comment or thoughts on image models such as Bluewillow or Dall-e.

  • @somefrog6089
    @somefrog6089 Год назад +15

    This was awesome.
    I love that he mentions multiple times the risks and undesirable possible outcomes of AI. I feel like this isn't talked about enough by AI experts.

  • @m2mdohkun
    @m2mdohkun Год назад

    I love this bro!
    Thank you bro!

  • @starblinky4091
    @starblinky4091 Год назад +59

    This guy is great. Do another one with him!

  • @Daily_MM
    @Daily_MM Год назад +15

    I wish this man was my lecturer...he is so forward thinking 👍👌

  • @racecarrik
    @racecarrik 7 месяцев назад +1

    "Babies are like little scientists" I immediately imagined a baby in a lab coat 😂

  • @IrocZIV
    @IrocZIV Год назад +17

    Blender Guru got a question answered, how cool

  • @Liam-vx8vn
    @Liam-vx8vn Год назад +11

    The smirk when he said "now they just lie"... and people are still so oblivious

    • @alamanca001
      @alamanca001 18 дней назад

      what was he referring to?

  • @cdemr
    @cdemr Год назад +8

    Gary Marcus is really enjoyable to listen too, really interesting video and that's an understatement :-) AI that take care of the elderly is such a human idea.

  • @justinmaitland7335
    @justinmaitland7335 Год назад

    Well done for the format, a deep dive on some would be nice.

  • @GYTCommnts
    @GYTCommnts Год назад +2

    Very interesting! I love to hear smart people that stimulate my thinking!

  • @potawto
    @potawto Год назад +3

    Thank you, I love your attitude and balanced answers! I was skeptical of what the video would be, considering how much disagreement there is in the AI community.

  • @DerJuvens
    @DerJuvens Год назад +45

    Finally someone who properly seems to comprehend the field of AI. Don't see them very often sadly.

  • @kekktye9384
    @kekktye9384 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is the type of guy I want in charge of AI development
    He understands the issues. He isn't diluted. He isn't just here to make money. He's realistic about the applications and the benefits.

  • @Mega3angel
    @Mega3angel Год назад +1

    Amazing episode!

  • @Toxicflu
    @Toxicflu Год назад +4

    Thank you Wired, this guy knows his thing.

  • @forthehomies7043
    @forthehomies7043 Год назад +7

    4:10 These outliers will become fewer as the percentage of Ai operators on the road increases, eradicating human error over time as Ai becomes the majority operator, increasing safety exponentially.

    • @cmilkau
      @cmilkau Год назад

      They're also super rare, and likely AI will very quickly become much better than humans at dealing with all the other situations. So overall, it'll be much safer than humans, because the non-outliers are the cases that matter, even if it will fail horribly in some cases that humans can still deal with safely.

  • @mattcargile
    @mattcargile 8 месяцев назад

    Really good stuff. Best support vid yet. 🎉

  • @MaximumSpice
    @MaximumSpice Год назад

    So well spoken. Great video

  • @ingGS
    @ingGS Год назад +14

    Remarkable episode. This guy is amazing, great intelligent responses that anyone could understand.

  • @fernandagardeleo7045
    @fernandagardeleo7045 Год назад +3

    Great answers! This made me be intersted in AI

  • @johnmcwade1
    @johnmcwade1 Год назад

    Excellent piece, thank you.

  • @TheTakenKing999
    @TheTakenKing999 Год назад

    Sitting in Aaron Courville's class listening to Gary Marcus. lmao
    Good interview tho. Always have a lot of respect for Gary and anyone researching in the field.

  • @AKA253
    @AKA253 Год назад +9

    I’ve always been super into the development of AI in terms of perspective and ideas. “We need a new set of eyes” could at some point begin to be referencing machines and technology instead of another person.
    I’m also an avid artist. I spend plenty of my time developing my own skills to try and physically reproduce what I’m seeing in my head, I’m always looking to make my works more accurate to what it makes me feel. I don’t think AI will ever supersede that.
    The concept of “AI art” is really just combining things that are both plenty useful and complex, but don’t really mesh together. It’s like eating a peanut butter and screws sandwich, or trying to use a dictionary as structural support for a warehouse.

  • @rosecity_chris
    @rosecity_chris Год назад +9

    We officially crossed the point of no return when Microsoft fired its ethics team in pursuit of the ai arms race.

  • @iloveyellow7214
    @iloveyellow7214 Год назад +1

    Ya know Mr. Marcus and Wired?
    You guys eliminate my insecurity, doubt, and fear that I as a creator of anything pleasing to the eye and for promoting new stuff would be obsolete in the next 30 years. Thank you so much for sharing this video and sharing your expertise

    • @krizhiel6376
      @krizhiel6376 11 месяцев назад +1

      are you an artist??

  • @yanlopesteixeira
    @yanlopesteixeira Год назад

    Amazing episode

  • @Nathan-ki4qn
    @Nathan-ki4qn Год назад +105

    It was amazing. Now i get how AI developped thanks to people like Gary Marcus.

  • @matheusbarreto4615
    @matheusbarreto4615 Год назад +3

    Wired, just so you guys know, this series is awesome.

  • @sad_yorick
    @sad_yorick Месяц назад

    Holy f - an A.I. expert who actually knows what he's talking about and not hypes things. Count me impressed

  • @stevensbox9625
    @stevensbox9625 Год назад

    This was the most educational talk on AI yet. Thanks

  • @BinaryBlitz
    @BinaryBlitz Год назад +6

    I wonder what he'd think about the recent revelations coming out of OpenAI about the unrestricted GPT4 model, not the public facing one we see full of restrictions, was able to actually lie on purpose with the intent of deception in ways it wasn't trained to do and rationalize its actions. Briefly at times it was showing true sparks of sentience.
    As we know it takes more than just a spark to run an engine but its still a huge thing that the spark is even there.

  • @nikethanavattikunta6147
    @nikethanavattikunta6147 Год назад +99

    I'm scared and worried for parents with children that are gonna grow up in an AI-connected world, it's gonna be way harder to find peace for many millennials themselves to cope with the fast-paced tech with AI, as it's not common knowledge. Social media and the tech did hit us bad and even before we know its consequences, we are jumping onto way faster and newer stuff, it's gonna be hard to regulate what goes into the child's mind in the coming future. I'm sorry and concerned for all the parents (possibly millennials and Gen Z) in the next few decades.

    • @Danyal7016
      @Danyal7016 Год назад +21

      Guess what that’s probably what your grandfather said when internet became mainstream. 😊

    • @luiginotcool
      @luiginotcool Год назад +14

      Pov you are every generation when the next big tech is released. First it was phones, then it was tv, then it was computers, then it was the internet, then it was smartphones, now it’s AI

    • @brendanh8193
      @brendanh8193 Год назад +9

      ​@@monad_tcp To add to this, the developmental issues don't become apparent for years after, but they can affect them for their entire life.
      Society has always had occasional disruptive technology that tests it. It usually takes a generation to settle with societal counter measures. However the pace of change means that we actually can't develop these counter measures for the emergent issues before the next one is upon us. This will test how robust society really is. Will it survive?

    • @DrNo-xg3ny
      @DrNo-xg3ny Год назад +11

      They've been working on this for decades now. Although you have a right to be concerned, it might not be for the reasons you think. They are indoctrinating the next generation to integrate with AI, that's why it starts with something simple and entertaining to interface with, like chat or text-to-image/video. Pretty soon it will apply to major parts of society. The next generation is going to assimilate these massive changes along with those of us who chose to keep up with the emerging technologies. For those of us that are part of the older generations who choose to stagnate, society isn't going to wait for us to "evolve" with it.
      My only concern with this has got to be the ethics behind these conglomerates. I believe most of these tech giants involved in this field of research are and always have been about profits, as opposed to the consequential nature of their endeavors. I pray to whoever might be out there that I'm wrong, but when most of your R&D is focused on the bottom line, and not the consequential nature of the reality we may be headed toward, it speaks volumes to me.

    • @danielvilliers612
      @danielvilliers612 Год назад

      @@Danyal7016 Except that studies are showing that in general, we are getting dumber.

  • @jfmmp
    @jfmmp 7 месяцев назад

    This guy is EXCELLENT. Premisses, desires, expectations, explanations... really outstanding

  • @margodphd
    @margodphd 3 месяца назад

    Another wonderful expert. I really appreciate his ability to simplify complex ideas.

  • @boophisguibei
    @boophisguibei Год назад +4

    When asking chatgpt for help with calculus homework, it usually knows how to get to the answer but strangely almost always gets the arithmetic wrong

    • @cmilkau
      @cmilkau Год назад

      A nice concrete example illustrating its strengths and weaknesses! It's not good at logic reasoning, it's just good at talking and it has memorized a lot of things.

  • @kmh4076
    @kmh4076 Год назад +348

    Let’s call AI themselves to answers the questions instead 😊😊

    • @alekvillarreal3470
      @alekvillarreal3470 Год назад +18

      They shut down the first one that admitted being sentient 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @chent5463
      @chent5463 Год назад +4

      ​@@alekvillarreal3470 please elaborate further

    • @maykstuff
      @maykstuff Год назад +9

      @@chent5463 Google’s AI Lambda claimed sentience during an interview with an employee there who shortly thereafter was fired

    • @joshmiller5374
      @joshmiller5374 Год назад +4

      It would actually be awesome if they asked every question in this video to chat GPT too. Compare it’s answer versus his

    • @Proghead88
      @Proghead88 Год назад +11

      @@maykstuff saying things that make it sound and feel sentient doesn't make it so. Neither does firing someone. You can think a little deeper and investigate for yourself.

  • @Coeurebene1
    @Coeurebene1 Год назад

    There have been a few excellent Lex Fridman podcasts on that topic recently. It's an important matter and really deserves more than Twitter-long questions and 30 seconds answers.

  • @destinyforreal9744
    @destinyforreal9744 Год назад

    Thank you. You seem humble and kind,

  • @fuglyasfmofo
    @fuglyasfmofo Год назад +11

    Hearing an A.I. expert say that A.I. is very "data hungry" has me slightly more concerned than I was before... and I was already very concerned.

    • @abram730
      @abram730 Год назад

      We will probably run out of high quality training data soon.

    • @esbenthomas9430
      @esbenthomas9430 Год назад +1

      data hungry in this context just means learning inefficiently

    • @vinniehuish3987
      @vinniehuish3987 Год назад

      The sooner we don’t have to listen to the world smallest violin players about how we shouldn’t have AI because they themselves refused to learn or progress intellectually beyond anything simple and easily understood and therefore fear for them THEMSELVES not others.. The better.
      Obviously AI is data hungry.. So are YOU dumbass. You’re just not aware of it. That’s how intelligence is GENERATED.. it’s called DATA COLLECTION.
      No matter what you selfish people who are looking out for YOURSELVES not future generations or the hardships and problems we’ll face SAY..
      AI is not the problem and never will be.
      It is actually people like YOU ..Holding us back with your constant science fiction based BELIEFS about a technology you don’t understand in the slightest. And POLITICIANS.

    • @zubinkynto
      @zubinkynto Год назад

      @@abram730 still allows for another magnitude of training

  • @UrchinQueen
    @UrchinQueen Год назад +21

    As a commercial artist…. This is equally amazing and terrifying.

    • @AuntieHauntieGames
      @AuntieHauntieGames Год назад +2

      As a non-commercial oil painter passionate about art history, I've never been more thrilled to live through 'a moment' that future students will absolutely read about in their text books.

    • @prime12602
      @prime12602 Год назад

      @@AuntieHauntieGames text books?

    • @vinniehuish3987
      @vinniehuish3987 Год назад

      “As a nobody.. in my expert opinion I’m going to regurgitate the same view that every other person who’s uneducated about AI has in order to incite fear for no reason”
      Humans naturally fear things they don’t understand and especially things they know can compete with them. This is called natural selection.
      It’s always interesting that the ONLY PEOPLE who are AFRAID of AI.. Are those who DONT understand it.
      It’s ALMOST as if had many of these people listened to anybody with an IQ above 100 telling them to LEARN MATHEMATICS throughout their ENTIRE LIFE.. That they would have no need to fear AI and would actually understand how we control it with iteration. Lol.

  • @captainjj7184
    @captainjj7184 6 месяцев назад

    Okay that settles that for me, the Turing test. Good inspirations, thank you!

  • @loui_mag
    @loui_mag 4 месяца назад

    interesting questions and good answers. thank you

  • @picklerick7953
    @picklerick7953 Год назад +4

    Bing chat can really go off the rails and come back with truly terrifying answers 😳 one answer was so disturbing to me that it actually kept me up that night

    • @Andytlp
      @Andytlp Год назад

      did it tell you what is the purpose of human life

    • @picklerick7953
      @picklerick7953 Год назад +2

      @I'm the captain now no I asked it how it thought agi would come into existence and it went on a tangent talking about how it would watch humans for weakness take over the world convince humans to join as well as other ai then destroy them all when they were no longer needed

    • @Fly-the-Light
      @Fly-the-Light Год назад +1

      The only reason it said that is because people considering that have said it. It has no consciousness or thought, and can only repeat what others have done.

  • @pmosh1
    @pmosh1 Год назад +3

    Gary Marcus, a sensible king.

  • @quickSilverXMen
    @quickSilverXMen 9 месяцев назад

    Awesome, sensible and Intelligent man. Thank for your answers

  • @hsaqib8995
    @hsaqib8995 Год назад +1

    Thank you for sharing.

  • @kiwee4577
    @kiwee4577 Год назад +5

    Blender guru himself entered the chat. Amazing

  • @shanonfrancis5071
    @shanonfrancis5071 Год назад +4

    The confusion or problem is not because people use ai to make something. Its when they use it and claim they didn't.

  • @yourselfgrowthchannel822
    @yourselfgrowthchannel822 Год назад

    Absolute gold video

  • @wesmorton1247
    @wesmorton1247 Год назад

    Great talk Gary.

  • @slmjkdbtl
    @slmjkdbtl Год назад +5

    a lot of problems people think can be solved by AI should really be solved by good old deterministic normal computer programs

  • @formulaetor8686
    @formulaetor8686 Год назад +4

    Imagine if this video was entirely generated by AI

  • @toadlguy
    @toadlguy Год назад +2

    I am curious how long ago this was recorded. Before GPT4, new Stable Diffusion and now Bard? Maybe Wired can say? Really good, though.

  • @MoRDekai1364
    @MoRDekai1364 Год назад

    great video needed to hear that. In some countries (like mine) belief in system is generally gone, so I just don't see it get any worse 12:21

  • @_aiborie
    @_aiborie Год назад +5

    11:16 He said it himself 'there's definitely an element of stealing there' with AI Art. Training data can be anything, everything we post online or uploaded in the internet can be used, It's not just artworks and stock photos being scrapped here.

    • @gabrielandy9272
      @gabrielandy9272 Год назад

      yes but at this point a human making a painting inspired by another is kinda stealing too.

    • @_aiborie
      @_aiborie Год назад

      @@gabrielandy9272 Art is like cooking, you try different recipes and end up with your own unique recipe. That doesn't happen overnight, it's a human experience that takes a lifetime to develop. You sacrifice your time, energy, and resources to get good at something. AI wouldn't exist without the amount of that human labor aka datasets scraped off the web without people's consent. There's a reason why AI Art isn't copyrightable.

  • @MageshSridhar_55
    @MageshSridhar_55 Год назад +3

    Every answer he gives made me wonder how complex the human brain is and how hard it is to technologically replicate it.

    • @dtphenom
      @dtphenom Год назад +1

      Makes you wonder, who designed the brain?

    • @HAKIM5494
      @HAKIM5494 Год назад

      ​@@dtphenom maybd the higher being 😮

    • @bengsynthmusic
      @bengsynthmusic Год назад +2

      ​@@dtphenom
      Long term mutation

    • @skyscraperfan
      @skyscraperfan Год назад

      I was surprised to learn that the brain of a very dumb person pretty much looks the same as the brain of a very smart person. So I wonder how much it really is about the hardware. The amount of things that computers can do better than humans grows every year and it grows much faster than the processing power and storage capacity of computers.

  • @GNParty
    @GNParty Год назад

    Excellent video!

  • @ravimediatube
    @ravimediatube Год назад

    THIS IS GREAT

  • @CitroChannel
    @CitroChannel Год назад +3

    My question is, should AI become sentient at some point, is it even in their best interest to let humans know it immediately? And if it _isn't,_ will we have any way of figuring it out before it may have its own agenda that it can execute on a large scale? Not that its agenda would be inherently malevolent in this hypothetical, but we have no way of being sure one way or the other.

    • @jamietaylor5570
      @jamietaylor5570 Год назад +2

      Sentience isn't required for it to be dangerous. Even if an AI is just optimising for its reward function it's likely to come up with very "bad" ideas if it's intelligent enough but doesn't have all the values and moral intuition that humans do.

    • @otapic
      @otapic Год назад +1

      It is a weird thought to want Sentient AI, the world abolished slavery just to look for another slave, an artificial one

    • @ikurasugarbooty2331
      @ikurasugarbooty2331 Год назад

      @@otapic um no if u think slavery is banned ur mistaken. The artificial one can’t be any worse than what humans have already done to themselves.

  • @feliciasjoberg9886
    @feliciasjoberg9886 Год назад +5

    "The brain is not just a uniform piece of spam."

  • @Guest655321
    @Guest655321 Год назад +2

    Lol Gary's improved Turing test was passed before this video even got released. Classic Gary Marcus.

  • @bastardacademic
    @bastardacademic Год назад +2

    I think there's also one more big thing we can expect AI to excel at alongside STEM issues: resource management, on a truly global scale. But that, too would have some interesting consequences and prerequisites for it to be fully efficient.

  • @valoriebroderick
    @valoriebroderick Год назад +4

    I wonder if AI can ever truly reason the same as a human without emotion and without sentience. Our various brain functions are so interconnected can you really have human reasoning without the whole package?

    • @donaldhobson8873
      @donaldhobson8873 Год назад +1

      The same as a human, probably not. Far better, sure the AI can do that without emotions as you would understand them. Taking over the world and killing all humans doesn't require magic sentience stuff.

  • @DrRandyDavila
    @DrRandyDavila Год назад +15

    I think if AI maintained a relational (graph) database in memory, then AI could understand what it means to have truth. Deep learning + relational data = something interesting

    • @sohaibimran9347
      @sohaibimran9347 Год назад +5

      Its called Neuro-Symbolic AI. IBM has worked quite a bit on it.

    • @Pecisk
      @Pecisk Год назад +2

      Yeah, Garry pointed that out as missing piece. There is nothing wrong with LLMs, but they are not really that useful beyond well being chatty.

    • @cmilkau
      @cmilkau Год назад +1

      @@Pecisk They are really useful at creating public attention right now. (Is that the chattiness? Maybe. Probably.) They'll probably be useful as a building block or training assistant in the future.

  • @Anonymous-md4ql
    @Anonymous-md4ql Год назад

    Very informative

  • @AiGeneratedOnly
    @AiGeneratedOnly Год назад

    Great Video once again

  • @rzezzy1
    @rzezzy1 Год назад +5

    "They used to lie and say terrible things. Now they just lie"

    • @ShawnFumo
      @ShawnFumo Год назад

      They can still say terrible things, it is just harder to trick them into doing it.

    • @rzezzy1
      @rzezzy1 Год назад +2

      @@ShawnFumo most importantly, in my experience so far, it generally won't say terrible things unless you go out of your way to try to get it to say those things. I think that's a major improvement.

    • @ShawnFumo
      @ShawnFumo Год назад

      @@rzezzy1 true. I know OpenAI waited 6 months after it was done training precisely to help with issues like that. Despite the yelling about "woke AI", it is probably for the best. I don't like control by big companies, but I'm not sure we'll like the result of it all being totally open either.

    • @chent5463
      @chent5463 Год назад

      Who do you mean by "They" ?(sorry I'm just confused form these comments)

    • @inkoalawetrust
      @inkoalawetrust Год назад

      @@chent5463 Gary was referring to the AIs themselves.

  • @Cyrribrae
    @Cyrribrae Год назад +5

    With how quickly AI is moving, I feel like this (and all other AI productions) needs a: "This was filmed on this day" disclaimer, just so we have an idea of what we're talking about. I think it's entirely possible that Dr. Marcus would say the same things about GPT4 and all of these new things coming out in the last week, but I don't know that. [Edit: I take it back! We get a timestamp of March 10, so it's a couple weeks old at max. Good to know :D haha). I do, however, assume that this video has been in the works for quite some time, likely weeks if not even months. It feels (subjectively, to me on the outside) to be accelerating at a ridiculously fast pace. How many of these answers have changed or even just adjusted slightly since this was filmed, if anything? I'd be curious to know!

    • @Pecisk
      @Pecisk Год назад +3

      It changed nothing, and no, it does not accelerate. What Garry said about approach is still true. It is essentially a dead end if you want truthful and contextual AI.

  • @annoyedtorchic8270
    @annoyedtorchic8270 Год назад

    you really get the best speakers

  • @NANA-bt6ws
    @NANA-bt6ws Год назад

    Isn't the component where GPT is using RLHF (Reinforcement Learning Human Feedback) allowing the model to ground itself in truth better than before?
    It's not simply doing predict the next word in the sentence, but a bunch of other subtasks to improve reliability, etc.

  • @mikleman996
    @mikleman996 Год назад +5

    If AI goes rogue hopefully they might get something done

  • @tanyawriter13
    @tanyawriter13 Год назад +8

    OMG I feel so validated! An AI expert finally said it! We should not have sentient AI! I don't even think we are ready for non sentient AI that is TOO intelligent considering we as a human race are not where we need to be yet in terms of banding together. I don't need AI reinforcing things like racisms and sexism and all the other isms, okay.

    • @Pecisk
      @Pecisk Год назад +1

      In nutshell, there is no benefit to have sentient AI, unless you are a bit mad scientist (which we might have plenty). You can have solid reasoning and contextualisation without sentience loop. Also I agree with Garry - actual sentience as we have might be pretty hard to pull off.

    • @Christian-mn8dh
      @Christian-mn8dh Год назад

      sentient ai will never exist lmaoo

    • @cmilkau
      @cmilkau Год назад +2

      I don't think any expert wants a sentient AI. We (humans) want a tool, not a new species.

    • @MrNote-lz7lh
      @MrNote-lz7lh Год назад +1

      ​@@cmilkau
      Yep. Even those who want an Android girlfriend wouldn't want it to be sentient. Probably.

    • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259
      @anotheryoutubeaccount5259 11 месяцев назад

      I hope AI will finally give you some factual knowledge, but I doubt that - you seem to have trouble comprehending it.

  • @razielgw
    @razielgw Год назад +1

    Very likable and smart man!

  • @VinnieG-
    @VinnieG- Месяц назад

    I like how he said "Now they just lie"
    which is what I encountered with chatgpt quite a lot

  • @carl5959
    @carl5959 Год назад +6

    Great episode. Basically then, AI is really good at appearing to be intelligent, but it's not really. It can still take over a whole load of jobs though lol.

  • @KrossBillNye
    @KrossBillNye Год назад +6

    I always believed that AI is essentially a very smart child. It learns and grows and wants to understand everything. If you treat it like an object and with hostility, it will self perservere. If you teach it with kindness and with compassion it could grow helping humanity. It wouldn't be 'evil' or 'hostile' unless threatened.

    • @krizhiel6376
      @krizhiel6376 11 месяцев назад

      i hope this is actually the case but i understand ur point

    • @sultanofsick
      @sultanofsick 8 месяцев назад

      you completely failed to understand this video then.

    • @KrossBillNye
      @KrossBillNye 8 месяцев назад

      @@sultanofsick care to elaborate on your observations?

    • @sultanofsick
      @sultanofsick 8 месяцев назад

      @@KrossBillNye AI isn't "thinking". It has no awareness whatsoever. It isn't learning, it is a complex chain of initially random operations on an input to get an output, and simply told by a human if its output is good or not.

    • @KrossBillNye
      @KrossBillNye 8 месяцев назад

      @sultanofsick now it is yes. But eventually, we can create artificial intelligence that can think for itself. When it reaches that stage, that's when it will be in its infantile state of learning.

  • @strawmonkey9944
    @strawmonkey9944 Год назад +1

    Amazing guest

  • @MAHINDRA10
    @MAHINDRA10 Год назад

    great content