One day, late at night, I was walking home from work when I got jumped by three thugs. They knocked me onto the ground, and demanded I give them my wallet. Unfortunately I am broke, but they didn't believe me and kept demanding I give it up. Suddenly, Hylofear appeared. I heard them say "It's Tahm Kenching time" and then they excel spreadsheeted all over the thugs. I owe Hylofear my life 🙏
Im wondering, because of your pf pic and all, does Tham kentch and his ult turn you on? Or do you have a 'type' of character that you like to see doing it?
I actually thought about tahms scaling that scales in itself so many times, finally someone addresses why its so good properly!!! Do mathematically correct kata R build next with hubris and attackspeed!
God. I just love those math videos so much. Great job, mate. Hope you'll do more in the future. Honestly, I wouldn't mind one for every champion. Even the simple ones.
Lethal tempo is weird on bel because it scales with “bonus” and not “total” attack speed. So you don’t get anything extra for being in ultimate form. But also all stacks are “bonus”, so you get way more value out of your base attack speed. Yun Tal is also weird because you don’t get the on-hit penalty when stacking it with e… there is a ton of weird interactions with her that are not common info. I usually take fleet on bel but I want to see a video on it as well.
I uninstalled league today after few weeks of playing, before that i had 10 months break in it and u are now making me reconsider this choice, i mained kench top before it was in meta or whatever u wanna call it. Ive tried hail of blades on him then and it felt perfect for him. Im not high elo, didnt ever try to go further than plat, i have no real knowledge of items runes and other type of stuff u need to know to come up with some of these builds. I just wanted to say that it's my bigest achievement in LOL to come up with kench and warwick top before everyone else. Ty edit: great montage
Nice vid! I actually forgot that max HP scales the amount of AP applied to your passive autos 😅thanks for the reminder why I should build at least one AP item on him (I usually play him as full tank). Speaking of his passive, you did not mention that you can still use your ult on enemies if they have 3 stacks on and you cast your ult just as your Q hits them. You will grab them with your tongue like a frog, it's hilarious and super useful if they flash you. Also, great montage 🙌💣
I love your channel man, doing this kinda math is one of my favorite pass times so its fun to see someone else do it too and compaire my builds with what you came up with i just wish my mains had more interesting options for mathematically correct builds its all just stack lethality/magic pen + AP/AD = win. i think the only champ i play often with the full potential for this kinda stuff is Jhin, and maybe Vlad. and even then both of them just end up as stack lethality/magic pen + AD/AP, unless you want to try some shenanigans with heartsteel vlad which can be interesting I did play Sett for a little bit, but now i mostly just play him in ARAMs using a version of the "mathematically correct Sett" idea
Also speaking of magic pen, your build doesnt seem to have any. Sett gets away with not having armor pen because true damage, but wouldnt your damage output in practice go up from including something like Bloodletters Curse, your stats wouldnt be perfect then though which is kinda against the point of a "mathematically correct" build
You could do that, and it might be good. Bloodletter wasnt out when i made this, so swapping warmogs (which has no passive thats important for the build) for it is probably just as effective
hey man, I'm a maokai top otp and I always find it difficult to find a mao otp guide... or a video like this. good work and keep it up. if you make it a video about mathematically correct maokai let me know and I will be here 🙂
I legit tried out my own variation of Lethal Tahmpo (and yes I also called it exactly that) just a couple days ago! My friends called me a madman… now I can send them this video for proof (I had no clue wtf I was building, lethal tahmpo just sounded funny)
Back when dumb mythics were a thing and they made that AP passive and Q scalling I bought Heartsteel, Demonic Embrace if I were ahead Nashor's tooth or wit's end then all other items were tank items, it was disgusting in jungle because you had more opportunities to get Heartsteel stacks from ganks than you did on lane. And this HP into AP scalling is what they supposed to do with Galio when they wanted him to be AP offtank instead of giving him insane AP scalling.
Also i think mathematically correct's goal is highest dps right, doesn't means it best possible build because build are based on enemies's summoner + theirs build, for example if they are all range attack they can easily burn you down. so i guess mathematically is not the best build but rather most balance out of them all
Hey, liked your videos and the type of content you do. I know it may not be such a interesting case, but I would like you to do a similar video about smolder. I’ve been frustrated cause I can’t imagine a “correct” build for him. With those crit scalings and the incompatibility between smolder type of character and the crit items. I would like an analysis on how to make the best out of his kit. Have a nice day :D
Loved the video so much I got some ideas to share. First: the graphics on their own are GREAT, they make it so we can picture what you're talking about really well because we can then make comparisons. However we did not really get to understand how big of a difference the scalings are since we don't have a damage graph for a standart champion build. This also goes for the dps part. Some questions I got when watching were: how much of a difference does this build make when compared to his normal builds? What about a standart auto attack ADC like Twitch or Ashe or Jinx? So, can we get more things to compare those builds to? Maybe we could take the top builds and use them as standart, maybe we could use similar champions to the one in the spotlight. I believe it would be a nice touch!
Ngl, this build seems fire, but my go to build on Tahm is always: Hearsteel, Plated Boots, Unending Despair, Spirit Visage, either Thornmail if I need armour, or Kaenic if I need magic resistance and finally a Riftmaker and you become an unkillable tank with insane damage
Great video! Clearly can see the effort put in, I just have two questions. First if any of the new season changes affect this build. And second which item would you swap out for boots?
@@Hylofear That is true although you can't really dish out damage if you can't get to them, especially for immobile champions and on-hit builds. Still, loved these videos, I might just compromise and take ghost.
Awesome video just wanted to ask that now that the tier 3 boots are in the game is it worth building one of them over one of the items. Tier 3 swifties and greaves look pretty good
I understand this was probably written before the new season began, but Zephyr has been removed from the game and "replaced" by Gunmetal Greaves, the boots you get from feats.
Yeah the zephyr bit is outdated now. Berserkers might be decent now, but I find direct damage increase boots arent as favourable. defence or MS feels better, and youre selling it late game anyway
Can you look into AD Shaco? Ways to maximize his burst? I am one of the few that run Dark Harvest or Electrocute and not Hail of Blades because I want to one-shot like an assassin but it's hard theorytesting. Hopefully you read this and give it a try. Would very much appreciate!
I did notice that Whatley builds similar items to this build, specifically rabadons and warmog which arent as common for tahm. Ultimately he still builds tanky, but its interesting how a Kench OTP figured out a lot of this build intuitively
You can go gathering if you want sorc secondary, but i found that increasing health tends to be more beneficial than increasing AP. It's possible though, so try it out!
more op than ever atm and btw "continued to nerf him" they literally buffed him with him getting the jump away or in ability not as ult and this insane bonus damage that both deals magic and phys not to talk about his INSANE base stats like 5hp reg per sec lvl 1 atm he is literally unkillable with the items that exist like heartstell whilst dealing more damage than any non "tank" it is so stupid
where does the new ap black cleaver item fit into all of this? do you think you would go it in certain cases? or go it at all. im just curious because ive seen some videos about abyssal mask and bloodletters curse, and it does act strong but just going bloodletters is more than enough.
@ thats what i was assuming, cause i feel like there are some matchups where warmogs might not do amazing but, i just wanted to see how you felt about it, thanks for replying
I really like the editing style, but I feel like you don't take into account many different things. For example, what use is a Tahm Kench that gets blown up before he can even touch the enemy. Just things to consider. There are many great off-meta builds in league, but you don't seem to find them.
This is meant to be mathematically correct, not ranked viable. I am maxxing out DPS, so my survivability suffers. You are right, resistances are great on Kench, and this build suffers for the lack of Unending and Spirit. But that isn't the point of the video.
Riot tried their best to kick him off the top? That's a lie. When they try to kick someone off the solo line, they do it instantly. Look at what they did to Sona and those rare ADCs (except Vayne) who tried to play top. That's how they kick characters off the top. Killing them. Instantly.
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PETU??
I knew i would find you here
Thanks for using Stand United on me! Everyone is attacking me for calling Tahm a frog instead of a catfish.
@@nopenoname421 Greetingsh, dear viewersh. 😂
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Goofy ah emote 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Doing a Montage can't be that hard"
Proceeds to make one of the hardest Tahm edits known to man
Someone get Whatley to try this build.
One day, late at night, I was walking home from work when I got jumped by three thugs. They knocked me onto the ground, and demanded I give them my wallet. Unfortunately I am broke, but they didn't believe me and kept demanding I give it up. Suddenly, Hylofear appeared. I heard them say "It's Tahm Kenching time" and then they excel spreadsheeted all over the thugs. I owe Hylofear my life 🙏
Tahm kench induced schizophrenia
Can confirm, I was the Rageblade
Eeeeeey b/p/w pvp
Can confirm. I was the fly
Why would the thugs say it's tahm kenching time and then sheet themselves? It would only make sense if he said it and then they got sheeted
9:07 LETHAL TAHMPO
Also the montage slaps btw
Repeatedly nerfed and reworked
And still the Kench can't be benched 😤
Im wondering, because of your pf pic and all, does Tham kentch and his ult turn you on? Or do you have a 'type' of character that you like to see doing it?
Such an underrated creator. So fun watching you explain the choice of every item with math! Hope you pop off soon my favorite math teacher :)
Will do subtitles tomorrow
First time ever seeing this channel, and I already love it. I know you will have a fantastic year!
3blue1brown font for the numbers made me gain 50 IQ while watching
It's literally just one of the LaTeX math fonts, no? xd
I used the software he uses for his videos to make them!
0:31 "An extremely tanky frog," ... my brother... he is a catfish
"Correct" *Loud applouse*
🤓☝️
I actually thought about tahms scaling that scales in itself so many times, finally someone addresses why its so good properly!!! Do mathematically correct kata R build next with hubris and attackspeed!
Bro fr your channel is one of my favorites these days, you have a lot of potential! Keep up the good work 🫡
5:47 ultrakill mentioned🔥🔥🔥
God. I just love those math videos so much. Great job, mate. Hope you'll do more in the future. Honestly, I wouldn't mind one for every champion. Even the simple ones.
Math Garen incoming o7
as a main tahm, i recognise that you are trully goated to the core, hope to see more soon
Hearing how Lethal Tempo scales quadratically, what about mathematically correct Bel'Veth next?
or orianna :>
*DEFINITELY WORSE BUT WOULD BE FUNNY
Lethal tempo is weird on bel because it scales with “bonus” and not “total” attack speed. So you don’t get anything extra for being in ultimate form. But also all stacks are “bonus”, so you get way more value out of your base attack speed. Yun Tal is also weird because you don’t get the on-hit penalty when stacking it with e… there is a ton of weird interactions with her that are not common info. I usually take fleet on bel but I want to see a video on it as well.
gunmetal greaves would be so good on this (T3 berserkers) since it gives extra AS and move speed which helps you not get kited into oblivion
I uninstalled league today after few weeks of playing, before that i had 10 months break in it and u are now making me reconsider this choice, i mained kench top before it was in meta or whatever u wanna call it. Ive tried hail of blades on him then and it felt perfect for him. Im not high elo, didnt ever try to go further than plat, i have no real knowledge of items runes and other type of stuff u need to know to come up with some of these builds. I just wanted to say that it's my bigest achievement in LOL to come up with kench and warwick top before everyone else. Ty
edit: great montage
Dont do it ! Reinstalling aint worth it ! Break the cycle!
PS: league is truly best enjoyed with long breaks
The thumbnail 👌
remeber the tech of Q before your ult spit them out, it can land while the stun effect was there leaving them 0 second of respond time
Sir, that's professional. Cool video, subscribed
As soon as I saw the graph, I instantly subbed to the channel
great montage sirsky
Nice vid! I actually forgot that max HP scales the amount of AP applied to your passive autos 😅thanks for the reminder why I should build at least one AP item on him (I usually play him as full tank).
Speaking of his passive, you did not mention that you can still use your ult on enemies if they have 3 stacks on and you cast your ult just as your Q hits them. You will grab them with your tongue like a frog, it's hilarious and super useful if they flash you.
Also, great montage 🙌💣
Yeah I love that interaction. I didn't mention it cause it's not super important (I want people to discover it when I use it on them).
Great vid bro, editing and vibes were on point.
You're a hidden gem, mate. Wonderful video!
he is not a frog he is a CATFISH THANK YOU good video
Passive with extra auto dmg "so supportive"
I love your channel man, doing this kinda math is one of my favorite pass times so its fun to see someone else do it too and compaire my builds with what you came up with
i just wish my mains had more interesting options for mathematically correct builds its all just stack lethality/magic pen + AP/AD = win. i think the only champ i play often with the full potential for this kinda stuff is Jhin, and maybe Vlad. and even then both of them just end up as stack lethality/magic pen + AD/AP, unless you want to try some shenanigans with heartsteel vlad which can be interesting
I did play Sett for a little bit, but now i mostly just play him in ARAMs using a version of the "mathematically correct Sett" idea
Also speaking of magic pen, your build doesnt seem to have any. Sett gets away with not having armor pen because true damage, but wouldnt your damage output in practice go up from including something like Bloodletters Curse, your stats wouldnt be perfect then though which is kinda against the point of a "mathematically correct" build
You could do that, and it might be good. Bloodletter wasnt out when i made this, so swapping warmogs (which has no passive thats important for the build) for it is probably just as effective
also LT's bolt is a separate magic damage instance so it stacks twice as fast on new targeys
Nothin' better than nerding out over formulas to make Rito mad. Am i right?
Mathematically correct tahm kench is the scariest youtube title ive ever seen. This is def the video thats gonna get you to 10k
hey man, I'm a maokai top otp and I always find it difficult to find a mao otp guide... or a video like this.
good work and keep it up. if you make it a video about mathematically correct maokai let me know and I will be here 🙂
Fun idea. I can never play Kench without grasp though. It’s SUCH a nerf in lane it’s almost unplayable without it.
You underestimate the power of level 1 Tahm with LT. You can't bench the Kench
I legit tried out my own variation of Lethal Tahmpo (and yes I also called it exactly that) just a couple days ago! My friends called me a madman… now I can send them this video for proof (I had no clue wtf I was building, lethal tahmpo just sounded funny)
Bro pulled out the 3blue1brown graphics for this vid
that montage was a masterpiece
Came here because of the cursed thumbnail,
Stayed for a nice video and a reason to have fun in League.
So, thanks!
Very good quality video, well done
most cracked frog on the market!!
Back when dumb mythics were a thing and they made that AP passive and Q scalling I bought Heartsteel, Demonic Embrace if I were ahead Nashor's tooth or wit's end then all other items were tank items, it was disgusting in jungle because you had more opportunities to get Heartsteel stacks from ganks than you did on lane. And this HP into AP scalling is what they supposed to do with Galio when they wanted him to be AP offtank instead of giving him insane AP scalling.
IS THE THUMBNAIL A JOJO REFERENCE????!! 😱😱
This make me thought of that mathematically correct pantheon guy. Wonder where he is now
I LOVE HYLOFEAR
HELLO THERE!
The ace attorney music in the mathematics part is so fitting
Great music choices great vid
You makes me interested in math again, i gave up on math since high school differential
Also i think mathematically correct's goal is highest dps right, doesn't means it best possible build because build are based on enemies's summoner + theirs build, for example if they are all range attack they can easily burn you down. so i guess mathematically is not the best build but rather most balance out of them all
That ultrakill music though 🎶🎶🎶
Hey, liked your videos and the type of content you do. I know it may not be such a interesting case, but I would like you to do a similar video about smolder. I’ve been frustrated cause I can’t imagine a “correct” build for him. With those crit scalings and the incompatibility between smolder type of character and the crit items. I would like an analysis on how to make the best out of his kit. Have a nice day :D
Loved the video so much I got some ideas to share.
First: the graphics on their own are GREAT, they make it so we can picture what you're talking about really well because we can then make comparisons.
However we did not really get to understand how big of a difference the scalings are since we don't have a damage graph for a standart champion build.
This also goes for the dps part.
Some questions I got when watching were: how much of a difference does this build make when compared to his normal builds? What about a standart auto attack ADC like Twitch or Ashe or Jinx?
So, can we get more things to compare those builds to? Maybe we could take the top builds and use them as standart, maybe we could use similar champions to the one in the spotlight.
I believe it would be a nice touch!
Good point! A full crit ADC probably does more damage late, so its worth comparing the builds.
Thank you for linking the music, I was wondering if that was Crypt of the Necrodancer
Best way to learn multivariable calculus
Best edit ever
Legendary jojo ref
The taste of the INTER
8:34 lol
baby Im preying on you tonight
Tooooo many numbers!
A very Nice thumbnail
LMAO Tahm Kench nerfs in 15.2 announced less than 24 hours after this came out
:(
12:53 that teemo death angle 🤤
Also was that thumbnail a jojo reference?
Yeap. Bucciarati Kench
Ngl, this build seems fire, but my go to build on Tahm is always: Hearsteel, Plated Boots, Unending Despair, Spirit Visage, either Thornmail if I need armour, or Kaenic if I need magic resistance and finally a Riftmaker and you become an unkillable tank with insane damage
Great video! Clearly can see the effort put in, I just have two questions. First if any of the new season changes affect this build. And second which item would you swap out for boots?
Warmog's is marginally stronger, Heartsteel is no longer a niche item. I would build either Rabadon's or Guinsoo's last, replacing my boots.
@@Hylofear Even if you had 3rd tier boots? Also, which boots provide better dps?
@MakingExplosions If you really want the extra MS, I would recommend swifties for late game, but in the end boots arent as strong as a full item.
@@Hylofear That is true although you can't really dish out damage if you can't get to them, especially for immobile champions and on-hit builds. Still, loved these videos, I might just compromise and take ghost.
We need OneArmWatley to limit test this build!
My dude, TK is a catfish. That's the entire joke of the character. He catfishes people.
Frog
Here because of the thumbnail
I dont know how or where he was nerfed, but he is still an absolute beast, either on top or on bot.
I miss kench, even change my account name when he came out. "Cook Tahm Kench"
I Miss the old Tahm :(
Awesome video just wanted to ask that now that the tier 3 boots are in the game is it worth building one of them over one of the items. Tier 3 swifties and greaves look pretty good
Masterpiece edit
I understand this was probably written before the new season began, but Zephyr has been removed from the game and "replaced" by Gunmetal Greaves, the boots you get from feats.
Yeah the zephyr bit is outdated now. Berserkers might be decent now, but I find direct damage increase boots arent as favourable. defence or MS feels better, and youre selling it late game anyway
the one i want to see is mathematically correct yi with crit and everything for q burst.
Xpetu would love this video
Can you look into AD Shaco? Ways to maximize his burst? I am one of the few that run Dark Harvest or Electrocute and not Hail of Blades because I want to one-shot like an assassin but it's hard theorytesting. Hopefully you read this and give it a try. Would very much appreciate!
This is just coma patient Wheatley’s build minus as items
I did notice that Whatley builds similar items to this build, specifically rabadons and warmog which arent as common for tahm. Ultimately he still builds tanky, but its interesting how a Kench OTP figured out a lot of this build intuitively
waiting for mathematically correct mordekaiser after hearing about quadratical scaling on w
Check out my Unkillable Dawncore Mordekaiser video then!
@Hylofear amazing video I didn't think about that item tbh I would add an heartsteel to the build after all it scales with hp too
Diabolical thumbnail
Isnt this up to date? Zephyr is no longer in the game and Heartsteel just received a big nerf!
why not gathering storm? you would benefit from the infintiy scaling?
You can go gathering if you want sorc secondary, but i found that increasing health tends to be more beneficial than increasing AP. It's possible though, so try it out!
more op than ever atm
and btw "continued to nerf him" they literally buffed him with him getting the jump away or in ability not as ult and this insane bonus damage that both deals magic and phys
not to talk about his INSANE base stats like 5hp reg per sec lvl 1
atm he is literally unkillable with the items that exist like heartstell whilst dealing more damage than any non "tank" it is so stupid
Great video :) I would assume that with this build, ulting an enemy in a 1v1 scenario in the late game generally results in a dps loss?
Against that target yea, but if youre fighting more than one you can just auto someone else during ult
AP Ezreal please. We need a hero.
You might need Bloodletter's Curse in some cases, no?
No, you should still feel some guilt when Q-ing up with that build.
where does the new ap black cleaver item fit into all of this? do you think you would go it in certain cases? or go it at all. im just curious because ive seen some videos about abyssal mask and bloodletters curse, and it does act strong but just going bloodletters is more than enough.
I think you could fit it instead of Warmog's. Everything else is pretty much essential to the build.
@ thats what i was assuming, cause i feel like there are some matchups where warmogs might not do amazing but, i just wanted to see how you felt about it, thanks for replying
ShadowFlame's magic crit effect works with Infinity Edge's crit amplifyer, is there any champion that can actually build that combo?
Kayle
Can you make the same video for Nami?
Deth by tahm glamor~
thanks for the mathematical calculation, im tahm main but not smart! so thanks
He is still played support? I have only seen him top sense the rework.
show this to the bausffs
do NOT show this to baus
What ABOUT a Titanic Hydra?
nasus next?
You forgot the brain damage scalings
make mathematically correct vladimir
Cool but sometimes you really need to buy resistances or you will get killed before you can deal dmg/
I really like the editing style, but I feel like you don't take into account many different things.
For example, what use is a Tahm Kench that gets blown up before he can even touch the enemy. Just things to consider. There are many great off-meta builds in league, but you don't seem to find them.
This is meant to be mathematically correct, not ranked viable. I am maxxing out DPS, so my survivability suffers. You are right, resistances are great on Kench, and this build suffers for the lack of Unending and Spirit. But that isn't the point of the video.
Why do so many people reffer to TK as a frog? Please, someone explain
looks like frog. tongue like frog
Riot tried their best to kick him off the top?
That's a lie.
When they try to kick someone off the solo line, they do it instantly. Look at what they did to Sona and those rare ADCs (except Vayne) who tried to play top. That's how they kick characters off the top. Killing them. Instantly.
Too bad last season is over, and new items don't allow for such explosive scaling on heartsteel ):
Is the thumbnail artist Victor Lee?
Thumbnail artist is StarTurnArt!