I'm guessing the big-block Vettes are left out because they're not true musclecars, they are 2-seat sportscars. As for the Hemi Dart and Cuda, I have no idea why they aren't listed.
I like how you mention Ford lagging behind Chevrolet and Chrysler in the 60s while flashing a Camaro, a Plymouth and the 1964 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt…the car that won the 1964 Manufacturers Championship.
@@Johnnycdrums Well, some of the new muscle are over 1000 hp, so even with a lighter body with all the electronics they also have helping them, they will dominate. Don’t get me wrong, I’m definitely not a fan of them, personally, I’m a GM guy for the older muscle, but if I had to choose one of the modern cars, it would be Ford. To be honest, I’m happy with my old model T style, W-30 Olds 442 I’ve got sitting in my garage. I’ve owned it since new, when I ordered it in 1972. 👌😉
Im not a Ford fan , Chevy all the way , BUT I had two friend's , both with bone stock 390/4 speed 66 and 67 comets , both those cars ran 13.8-- 14.00 seconds , always beat my 396 Chevrolet / 4 speed , it's best time was 14.3
Ronnie Sox drove a 68 Barracuds 340 4sd tuned with headers and holly carb to a best of 13.3 ....those cars were capable of much better times it depends on who did the driving....
1968 Ram Air II firebird was rated at 340 hp, not 345 hp the1969 Ram Air VI was rated at 345 hp in the firebird both were underrated. GM only allowed 1 hp per 10 lbs, so the carb alhad a tab that keep it from opening up all the way. The same engine in GTO were Rated at 366 hp and 370 hp still underrated.
The original z28's we're not fast cars until you put headers on them and a whole bunch of gear I don't know where you think this thing ran in the 13s when they were stock at 107 mph but it's bullshit these cars were barely in the 14s
I don’t know what garbage can you got these performance figures from, but put them back where you found them. To even mention the Boss 429 in the list as a competitive car tells me all I have to know about the accuracy of this list. They were a joke, without a ton of work, nothing but boat anchors. The wedge Mopars were faster than the Hemi cars in factory trim, and they didn’t break every 5 minutes. No Z-28, no Boss 302? Yenko Camaro, or Yenko Nova ring a bell? Rambler Scrambler? W-31 Cutlass. And a whole bunch more that I haven’t mentioned. SMH!
Boss Nines did not emerge until 1969. It came with a tiny carb and were rev limited to 4500 RPM/375 hp. which completely defeated the purpose of the whole engine design. Because of this, (unless altered) it could not hold a candle to the (as claimed, lol), 335 hp. 1969 SCJ 428 Mustang on the strip. Bare in mind also, the 428 FE is much lighter, as it began life as a 332, and the 429 began life as a 460, although with a short stroke. And if things couldn't get any weirder, 1969 429 Thuderbirds were noticibly faster than 1968 428 Thunderbirds. Come to find out, the first few years of 385 block (460/429) production were assembled using hand selected fits. And as such, early 460 Lincoln and 429 Thunderbird hp. ratings were underrated by circumstance. 428 CJ and SCJ were underrated by plan, a great idea, first of all to cheat at the strip (they had some sort of hp. to weight ratio class at the time), and secondly for insurance rates.
B2 came out in 1969. The SC/Rambler came out in 1969 as well. A 1968 Z/28 was at best a 15-flat quarter miler. The DZ302 engine was torque shy and didn't accelerate from a standing start without major mods.
@@justme307I was responding to a comment that has been taken down, I realize when the cars were released, I don’t know how old you are, but I lived these cars, damn I’m old, LOL. I’m 75 now, and still have a muscle car in my shop from this era. Compared to today’s cars, they’re all dinosaurs! But I would choose one of them every time over the new self driving stuff, even if they are faster.
@@justme307 What year 442? Mine is a 72 W-30 that I actually ordered brand new. Just finished a 5 year frame off restoration on it. I’ve driven a few of the new muscle cars, they’re faster for sure, but they don’t have the presence of the old cars for my money. I really don’t care for much about them. They don’t fit the mold the old cars were cast from. Light, fast, and cheap, with big engines, no frills. If I want comfort and convenience, I’ll drive our new luxury car, if I want to hear, feel, and smell raw power, I’ll take the old cars every time. My W-30 underwent a complete mechanical upgrade. 462 cu in now, fully balanced and blueprinted, all forged internals, 11:1 compression, custom ground camshaft, block has been decked, heads milled, bowls cleaned and ported. Everything is port matched. It appears completely stock, the intake has been smoothed internally, and the cast iron exhaust manifolds have been polished internally as well. Ignition is updated with electronic, but retains the factory housing. The turbo 400 was sent to Hughes and is now full mechanical shifting, or automatic, they built me an anti ballooning 3800 stall converter to match the gearing and the camshaft. It’s not a small car, but it holds its own, even with the modern cars. To bad I’m so damned old, the only real downside to this car, is the driver’s reflexes! LOL 😂
Had several buds that owned Nova L78s, one bad ass ride.
If y'all think a showroom stock Comet with a 390 ran 103 in the 1/4, I don't know what to tell you lol.
I absolute like this video pd evolution
You just skipped over the 68 Hemi Dart and Cuda. What about the big block Vettes? Hemi Super Bee and the 440 GSS Dart. That is one sad list.
I'm guessing the big-block Vettes are left out because they're not true musclecars, they are 2-seat sportscars. As for the Hemi Dart and Cuda, I have no idea why they aren't listed.
I have a 396SS Chevelle convertible in the garage. It's 100% stock! 71,000 miles on it.
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Most of these cars were traction limited on stock factory tires, with slicks or a professional driver, these times were possible
Hemi Roadrunners ran high 12’s.
No, actually they did not.
Not in street trim
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My summer daily driver Mercedes CLK 550 convertible runs 13.3's completely stock.
I like how you mention Ford lagging behind Chevrolet and Chrysler in the 60s while flashing a Camaro, a Plymouth and the 1964 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt…the car that won the 1964 Manufacturers Championship.
To be fair, the Thunderbolt wasn’t a street car, but I do agree very fast car for the time. By today’s standards, all of these cars are slow.
@@Musclecar1972 ; Not if it's over 600 hp. in a light body
@@Johnnycdrums Well, some of the new muscle are over 1000 hp, so even with a lighter body with all the electronics they also have helping them, they will dominate. Don’t get me wrong, I’m definitely not a fan of them, personally, I’m a GM guy for the older muscle, but if I had to choose one of the modern cars, it would be Ford. To be honest, I’m happy with my old model T style, W-30 Olds 442 I’ve got sitting in my garage. I’ve owned it since new, when I ordered it in 1972. 👌😉
Im not a Ford fan , Chevy all the way , BUT I had two friend's , both with bone stock 390/4 speed 66 and 67 comets , both those cars ran 13.8-- 14.00 seconds , always beat my 396 Chevrolet / 4 speed , it's best time was 14.3
Ronnie Sox drove a 68 Barracuds 340 4sd tuned with headers and holly carb to a best of 13.3 ....those cars were capable of much better times it depends on who did the driving....
1968 Ram Air II firebird was rated at 340 hp, not 345 hp the1969 Ram Air VI was rated at 345 hp in the firebird both were underrated. GM only allowed 1 hp per 10 lbs, so the carb alhad a tab that keep it from opening up all the way. The same engine in GTO were Rated at 366 hp and 370 hp still underrated.
The original z28's we're not fast cars until you put headers on them and a whole bunch of gear I don't know where you think this thing ran in the 13s when they were stock at 107 mph but it's bullshit these cars were barely in the 14s
0-60 in one second
What about the L88 427 Corvette?
No Pontiacs ??
Pretty sure a Firebird is a Pontiac. Try 1:13 in the video.
I don’t know what garbage can you got these performance figures from, but put them back where you found them. To even mention the Boss 429 in the list as a competitive car tells me all I have to know about the accuracy of this list. They were a joke, without a ton of work, nothing but boat anchors. The wedge Mopars were faster than the Hemi cars in factory trim, and they didn’t break every 5 minutes. No Z-28, no Boss 302? Yenko Camaro, or Yenko Nova ring a bell? Rambler Scrambler? W-31 Cutlass. And a whole bunch more that I haven’t mentioned. SMH!
Boss Nines did not emerge until 1969.
It came with a tiny carb and were rev limited to 4500 RPM/375 hp. which completely defeated the purpose of the whole engine design.
Because of this, (unless altered) it could not hold a candle to the (as claimed, lol), 335 hp. 1969 SCJ 428 Mustang on the strip.
Bare in mind also, the 428 FE is much lighter, as it began life as a 332, and the 429 began life as a 460, although with a short stroke.
And if things couldn't get any weirder, 1969 429 Thuderbirds were noticibly faster than 1968 428 Thunderbirds.
Come to find out, the first few years of 385 block (460/429) production were assembled using hand selected fits.
And as such, early 460 Lincoln and 429 Thunderbird hp. ratings were underrated by circumstance.
428 CJ and SCJ were underrated by plan, a great idea, first of all to cheat at the strip (they had some sort of hp. to weight ratio class at the time), and secondly for insurance rates.
B2 came out in 1969. The SC/Rambler came out in 1969 as well. A 1968 Z/28 was at best a 15-flat quarter miler. The DZ302 engine was torque shy and didn't accelerate from a standing start without major mods.
@@justme307I was responding to a comment that has been taken down, I realize when the cars were released, I don’t know how old you are, but I lived these cars, damn I’m old, LOL. I’m 75 now, and still have a muscle car in my shop from this era. Compared to today’s cars, they’re all dinosaurs! But I would choose one of them every time over the new self driving stuff, even if they are faster.
@@Musclecar1972 69 myself and have a 442. It's a sled compared to my C5 vert and late model Charger R/T.
@@justme307 What year 442? Mine is a 72 W-30 that I actually ordered brand new. Just finished a 5 year frame off restoration on it. I’ve driven a few of the new muscle cars, they’re faster for sure, but they don’t have the presence of the old cars for my money. I really don’t care for much about them. They don’t fit the mold the old cars were cast from. Light, fast, and cheap, with big engines, no frills. If I want comfort and convenience, I’ll drive our new luxury car, if I want to hear, feel, and smell raw power, I’ll take the old cars every time. My W-30 underwent a complete mechanical upgrade. 462 cu in now, fully balanced and blueprinted, all forged internals, 11:1 compression, custom ground camshaft, block has been decked, heads milled, bowls cleaned and ported. Everything is port matched. It appears completely stock, the intake has been smoothed internally, and the cast iron exhaust manifolds have been polished internally as well. Ignition is updated with electronic, but retains the factory housing. The turbo 400 was sent to Hughes and is now full mechanical shifting, or automatic, they built me an anti ballooning 3800 stall converter to match the gearing and the camshaft. It’s not a small car, but it holds its own, even with the modern cars. To bad I’m so damned old, the only real downside to this car, is the driver’s reflexes! LOL 😂