Morgan Elsbeth Meets Thrawn | Star Wars Tales of the Empire | Episode 2 | Disney+
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In today's video we are taking a look at a scene from the 2nd episode of Tales of the Empire where we see Morgan Elsbeth meet Grand Admiral Thrown.
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Morgan Elsbeth Meets Thrawn | Star Wars Tales of the Empire | Episode 4 | Disney+ 
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"Trade lives for profit, over time this will create a weak and disillusioned Military. The Empire will slowly crumble."
Loved Thrawns foresight
One of the things I loved about Thrawn in the original Heir to the Empire novels was that not did he recognize the strengths of his enemies but also the shortcomings and weaknesses of the forces at his own disposal. But unlike other imperials he didn't rant and threaten other people to fix it but rather calmly accepted these factors and planned around them. And I feel like they've captured that vibe pretty well in this scene
@@hfar_in_the_sky thrawn is my most favorite characters and favorite officer he is very competent and i love to see more characters that maybe not as smart as thrawn but i would want to see more competent officers that is a major threat like thrawn
He is my favorite character because of his words . Anyone can make an error ensign but that error does not become a mistake until you refused to correct it@TakakiM-sr1df
I agree with those words
isn't this capitalism in a nutshell?
Seeing Thrawn, Pellaeon, and Rukh in Clone Wars animation form is truly a feast for the eyes
A surprise to be sure
@@jonathantorres4085 and a very welcome one
Fun fact: long before Rebels, Dave Filoni tried to find a way to put Thrawn into TCW but ultimately didn’t do so. Seeing him in TCW style animation shows they came full circle here.
@@GingerPisces2023Source?
@@GreenNinj4 “trust me bro”
Thrawn accurately predicted the battles of yavin, endor and jakku
The battles where the Empire lost.
Jakku? What is this battle of Jakku? Doesn't sound canon to me.
@@nahor88 It's Disney canon. A year after Endor, the Empire made a last stand on Jakku against the New Republic. It was the last battle of the Galactic Civil War. And yes, in case you're a wondering, Jakku happening only a year after Endor is incredibly dumb.
Ironically, Thrawn didn't predict the Battle of Lothal.
I mean that was pretty easy considering the writers knew what was going to happen.
As much as I liked Thrawn in Ahsoka, this scene really made him feel more like the Thrawn in his books. It explored his thoughts on the Empire as written in those stories.
He sees the Empire as necessary, but not without its flaws.
Just as he explained to Nightswan. The only problem is that we haven't heard his side in live action yet; why he joined the Empire, to protect his people, the Chiss Ascendancy
@@Anders_Lund Yea , im sure when we get more room with him we will see it grow some more
Yeah this feels straight up like a scene from the books, if you’d only read the first you might believe this an adaptation from some point in the rest of the trilogy
@Anders_Lundthe new thrawns trilogy explains this and goes into it very well unfortunately the books take place before and during rebels.
I think Thrawn sucked in Ashoka, but to each his own I guess, not my Thrawn.
when I saw Palleon in the meeting with the moff, I was like " he's near"
Damn I feel dumb when I finally realize he is captain Palleon until his name was said.
Thrawn needs his own show fr
Star Wars heir of the empire movie
@@tvalokibatman6563 Shows are better, they allow you to tell more story.
*not under Disney
Don't call the storm
As long as someone intelligent (not Filoni or Kathleen Kennedy) is writing and directing it, I’m game. Tony Gilroy maybe.
I love how this art style is a hybrid between the Clone Wars era and Rebels.
He looks a lot like the book cover/comic version and it makes me SO HAPPY!!
This scene is amazing. But the one thing that makes me the happiest is the music. Big franchises don't seem to care about musical continuity, but Star Wars does and it is such a joy to hear themes and motifs associated with specific characters being used properly when they are on screen or even mentioned.
eh in terms of that Kiner failed in this tales series
no Grand Inquisitor or Vader themes used
@@BillPlunderbonesTew8it wasn’t focused on them as the main character. And we’ve heard Vader’s theme millions of times anyways
@@teekay1122 there were long segments of GrandInquistor that could have used his rebels theme
as for Empire/Vader theme? This is tales of empire and you dont use it? that's just unacceptable lol
@@BillPlunderbonesTew8 “unacceptable”🤣Dude you’re getting pressed over something minimal. Get over it
Does anyone know the name of the theme when the episodes end for tales of the empire and the credits are rolling
Love how they use the same music when they interact with each other in Ahsoka
Ironic that Maul mentioned Nightsisters being wiped out, because they were threat to the Empire. And here we see Morgan working for the Empire, blissfully unaware of this teeny-tiny little fact.
Palpatine and his lies. So many characters have their arcs and their deaths caught entirely in the falsehoods he wrapped around an unsuspecting galaxy
People say Thrawn is the smartest character in Star Wars, but ultimately the Sheev comes out on top imho
@@fernandorivera4719 palpatine is smart at manipulation and politics thrawn is a stratigest and smart he understands his opponents and learn about them and he smart enough to find something to ensure the empire stay strong while i did think the tia defender program and upgrading the fleets seen much better and powerful then a death star and let not forget they have 1 death star and they have many star destroyer
@@TakakiM-sr1dfyea I was reading about how someone said that tarkins failure was spending tons of money on having the most ships instead of the best ships….
Just like Dooku and Anakin; they thought that allying with Palpatine would further their goals, but it only ever serves Sidious.
@dariuscain2458 Quantity over quality.
2:45 Such a simple little sentence and yet it would ultimately prove to be Thrawn’s salvation when he needs to escape the unknown galaxy
Next season better be called Star Wars - Tales of the Chiss.
We definitely need more Chiss content. The story of Mitth'raw'nuruodo from the Chiss Ascendancy to when he joins the Empire needs to be told
It's in the 3rd book of Thrawn Dynasty series titled "Lesser evil" and beginning of the next Thrawn trilogy titled simply "Thrawn"
And they have to feature Anakin working with Thrawn
Morgan: “My anger gives me strength.”
Me: you spoke like a Sith.
The people of Dathomir and the Sith often worked hand-in-hand
@@JoeFanikNightsister magik pulled from the Dark Side.
Thrawn knew what would happen to the empire eventually he wanted to try to warn his fellow officers but they did not want to see through what they called his arrogance. Thrawn in the end could of beaten the rebels because he outsmarts everyone by 10 pages
A perfect blend of Thrawn’s character in live action, animation and literature!
2:50 oh that shot with the Three ISD-1s perfect
‘A sickness, which kills both common man and king’ 😱🤯
It’s slightly disappointing now that Thrawn didn’t have the initial idea for the tie defender. But I will accept that it was Morgan, more specifically a nightsister who made it. And there’s also the chance he refined it a little.
He is a military man. They may not design the weapons they use but they can sponsor and see the potential in them. Morgan may have designed it. However, Thrawn was the one who would have made it happen.
I mean, designing ships isn't really Thrawn's job. It makes more sense for him to recruit people with enough vision to empower the Empire further.
I loved that it was her honestly. I think it sets up the connection between the two right away.
@clonecoric4140 imagine if thrawn have more competent officers on other ships that would listen to thrawn then he would be understandable
I believe Thrawn made adjustments that made it less expensive which is why it became one of the top projects afterwards.
I have always loved Thrawn's voice. It's so crisp, smooth, calm and icy. Like the crack of thin ice on winter day after it's snowed. I could listen to him talk for hours and still get chills.
Animated series of Thrawn joining the empire, rise through the ranks, nightswan, batonn, all the way to where he is promoted to grand admiral
New fans are mostly unaware of his backstory and I'd say a large number wouldn't pick up a book and read it. An animated series would be perfect for people to understand Thrawns journey, his challenges, his inexperience with imperial politics and his milliary genius
His mentorship of Vanto and Faro. Thrawn working with Anakin during the Clone Wars and with Vader during the Empire. And just as important, the war against the Grysk
@@Anders_LundFiloni already threw away all of these. Books doesn't exist for him.
Imagine if Thrawn was trained in the force. He’d be unstoppable.
He'd be literally Star Wars's Napoleon.
@@jl88570 Napoleon doesn’t even hold a candle to Thrawn. Thrawn is on a completely other level already. Unnecessary comparison.
FR bro is as ambitious as Thanos
Sadly I think Chiss can be force sensitive but lose it as they age
@@KISSArmySoldier I thought they still had the ability to use the force but because of how their society is structured and the nature of their analytical mind they just “lose it” because they don’t use it. So if they started training at a young age they’d be just like any other force sensitive.
Thrawn! Thrawn! THRAWN!
Seeing Rukh and Thrawn so close together is very funny to me, considering that Rukh kills him in the old Expanded Universe
Thrawn looks amazing
He’s so calculating even in the way he navigates a conversation 🤌🏼
I want an Andor-like series involving Morgan. There's still plenty to highlight, how and when she left Dathomir, how she became such powerful and skilled business woman, how and why she settled on Corvus, how she acquired the Beskar spear, etc.
I did NOT expect Rukh to make an animated appearance
Offer.... accepted.
Chills.
I love the Theme in the Backround
It's a pity that Eli Vanto hasn't made an appearance in SW shows and movies yet.
Daddy Thrawn- er uh I mean oh cool it’s Thrawn
At this point Thrawn did not command a fleet but a taskforce; the 96th. A small detail but still...
No he was in control of the Seventh Fleet when he was a Commodore.
@@AlexOtto Respectfully, I think you need to reread Thrawn. He and Pryce talked at the end of the book. She mentioned how the Emperor may make him a Grand Admiral for his victory at Batonn. She also mentioned how such a victory could grant him command of the 7th fleet. Thrawn was given the Chimaera when he was promoted to Commodore
Also Palleon wasn't serving under Thrawn when he was an admiral.
I have a feeling that the next Tales show will be somewhere in the original trilogy. Then the next one will be the sequels
I see one being about Lando and how he got his hands on Cloud City.
Thrawn is amazing, cleaver, my main man.
Everything about this man is poetry ❤
I'm curious how this fits into the thrawn novels. Because he meet Captain Paleon in Thrawn Treason when Thrawn is already a Grand Admiral. In this he's just an Admiral but he is already working with Paleon.
i was wondering the same but came to the conclusion that I shouldnt worry about it, just enjoy what they are trying to cook up, they always override the book lore.
We don't know if that is the first time Thrawn met Palleon. Considering that Thrawn know that Palleon is loyal to the Empire and not Grand Admiral Savit, it could indicate that they have met before. Even if they haven't served on the same ship, it's not impossible that they have interacted before Thrawn: treason
@@Anders_LundI see it as Pellaeon served in Thrawns fleet but not on his ship at this point
@Anders_Lund Yeah I can accept that this takes places after he's promoted to Admiral but before the Battle of Baton from the Thrawn novel. I guess I can also accept that he's been working with Palleon in a secret capacity and outside of his official duties. Especially since talking about the weaknesses of the empire would be considered treasonous so he would work in secret with Palleon
@@kaneunmaskedal it would not be considered treason, thrawn was imperial officer who advised the emperor himself. His opinions about the death star, the Tarkin doctrine, and how imperials operated were well known. Knowing the weakness of the power you serve is vital if you are to serve it well, the only problem is that he was one of the few. Which ultimately lead to the empire surviving in the unknown regions
Long live the empire
I'm a little confused, but I haven't managed to watch the whole series.
How is Pellaeon in Thrawn's service? In the canon, he served Grand Admiral Savit until Thrawn exposed him for treason.
Retcon.
Guess it’s a retcon, but I imagine that canon still played out, only it wasn’t their first time meeting.
It isn't explained, but I'd imagine it's just a series of transfers. Pellaeon was commanding the Harbinger under Savit by a year before Yavin, but it isn't established that he had never met Thrawn before (at least to the best of my memory). As I recall, Thrawn notes that Pellaeon's first loyalty is to the Empire, even over his commanding officer, which at the time was implied to just be Thrawn being brilliant enough to recognize from simply reading Pellaeon in a single interaction, or possibly seeing his service record, but I actually think it would make more sense for Pellaeon to have served under Thrawn, possibly aboard the Chimaera herself, prior to his promotion to Grand Admiral and maybe for a while after, before being transferred to the Harbinger under Savit and eventually being transferred back to Thrawn's fleet after Savit's treason came to light.
@@forrestpenrod2294books are lame
In my opinion, there's plenty of gaps in the Thrawn novel where this could have happened.
I just hope they didn't make this model of Thrawn just for one episode and we will see more animation with him
Thrawn is younger here and he's only a basic admiral in this scene
If thrawn wasn’t away…the empire would have crushed the rebellion.
Love how they used his theme from Ahsoka.
wonder what she would do if she found out grevious and dooku worked for sidious who now runs the empire
Thrawn!!!
Whoa i didn't realize grievous massacred the entire planet of dathomir
Pellaeon didn't serve under Thrawn until after Thrawn became a Grand Admiral...
Thrawn shouldve said "very well, offer accepted"
Im not crying Just a little bit
Choose your side Jedi or Empire
There is 1 continuity mistake in the video. Thrawn and Morgan are much yunger here but Peleon is the same age as in Mandalorian. Its strange they overlook 1 of the major charcters this way.
Some people just age better/worse than others
@@collecter343 Agree like Anakin admiral he was stressed for Anakin dangerous plan and ge ages different.
For obi wan i heard that on tatorine (forget how to spell that planet) you age faster that why obi wan was old
What is the name of the ost please ??
I wonder If Morgan knew The seperatist who attacked her planet was under the Emperor's influence.
2:17 Wow the lip sync is fucked
Looks like it was made in Sims 4
I hoped for more Thrawn and not just 5 minutes, they could make 3 episode of just him and put Elsbeth for a 5 minutes there, would be much better
5 minutes was all that was needed to show how different he is compared to the rest of the Empire. While others seek glory or destruction, Thrawn sees the bigger picture and truly believes the Empire can bring order
@@JoeFanik It's all true, but still we deserved more of him
I think they are laying the ground work for a larger series arround Thrawn. I think that with the screen time he already got , they saw how much demand is there for him.
@@mowtow90 I hope for it and i wait for it!
All hail Grand Admiral Thrawn!
@@revan4638their not going to do a thrawn series, he's a book character who's in the shows. Just go read his books
Does Thrawn look different here than in the Rebels cartoon? If so, I guess it's to reflect his appearance in Ahsoka.
He does indeed. He was substantially different in appearance in Rebels. But I confess I have a hard time choosing between his Rebels look and his look in this.
Different art style
Different animation program
Younger
@@StuartLugsden Add Rank to the list, he's an Admiral, not an Grand Admiral yet.
@@rafaelnishizumi6330 I wasn't interested in his rank or the color of his uniform. It was his face and head. The head seems shorter, and his face isn't as narrow. And those two bulges on his forehead aren't there now.
They're going for the Clone Wars-style
Does anyone know the name of the OST?
I want to know that too. I know at the end of the Ahsoka Serie 5 - 8 Theme at the End this played
Sound track is called thrawns arrival from ahsoka
@@joelbormley7635 close enough
Now is out the soundtrack
@@cristobaltaiba5031 thanks bro
I need help
0:25
Doesn't Thrawn get promoted to admiral later in the canon universe? Here, given his youth and the fact that the clone wars have just ended, his rank should be captain.
If you read thrawn alliances, he enters the imperial service after the clone wars are over, at that time he meets eli vanto as his translator. (Imperials think he is a pantoran with eye condition)
I would date this interaction at least around ten years after the Clone Wars given Morgan’s age. So between Thrawn’s promotion to commodore and the Battle of Batonn.
I loved this scene however; there are two problems I have with it. First, Palleon worked for Grand Admiral Savit and didn't join Thrawn's fleet until the time between Thrawn leaving to protect the funding for the Tie-Defender Project vs. "Project Stardust" in season 4 and when he returns in the series finale. Second, Ruhk doesn't work for Thrawn until after he becomes a Grand Admiral. Overall, though, I still loved it despite the continuity errors.
First, cope reasoning and real explanation probably just retcon but maybe he worked for Thrawn before being transferred to Savit and Second, was it ever implied Rukh became loyal only after Thrawn became a Grand Admiral?
@collecter343 no no, Palleon worked with Savit until the events of that book took place. You should give it a read.
@@yourbrothepro Rereading those books now, not there yet but don’t remember them explicitly saying how long he worked for Savit. Oh well, not the first retcon/variation from the books.
Does she not realize
It was the Emperor that took her people? =/
Blind anger will do that to someone.
@@karlolson1363 well said. =I
It was the separatist. (Under Palpatine)
In fact, Cal's friend and former Nightsister Marin (I think), thought Grievous was a jedi.
You start to understand Star Wars when you begin to understand that the Galactic Empire was the best state in the galaxy in this universe, much better than Republic
No, it wasn't. You miss the point if you think this way.
Media literacy is dead. Bad guys looking cool is the base justification for why you think this way.
watching it I dont get how people think these shorts were trash? Like what?? Whats with fans and hyperbole man , like barris was the weaker one but mainly cause it only had 3 eps but I mean thats not the end of the earth...
Imo the morgan elsbeth one was interesting, but it wasnt ultimately satisfying. Baris stuff was just so short and was rushed. Needed at least another 2 episodes i think
one of the characters Disney has yet to screw up! Thrawn has not failed as a villain yet.
Morgan knows the empire is part of the reason her people were slaughtered right? 😂
If she knew, she wouldn’t be with the empire right now
Or it’s just poor writing lol
@@N7gamer1337 why do you always blame everything on poor writing? The writers would definitely not have Morgan side with the empire if she knew that the Empire is partially responsible for the witches’ downfall🤣
Pellaeon shouldn't serve under Thrawn. He's Grand Admiral Savit's 2nd in command at this point. He and Thrawn haven't met yet. Filoni retconed another novel. 🤡
Yap yap yap
I’m headcannoning it as Pellaeon being reassigned to Savit for a period. Savit would’ve already been a grand admiral so he would’ve had the authority to poach competent officers for his own fleet.
Timothy Zahn's Thrawn never struck me as being a comprehensive, tight chronological account of Thrawn's rise through the Imperial ranks. There's plenty of areas and room for other things to have occurred.
Brother, those novels have been deemed un canon since 2015. You're a bit behind.
@@corpyhogan4433 hes talking about the canon novels. Do some damn research. hes not taalking about hier to the empire.