tread wear cannot be compared from brand to brand. A 500 A A tire from brand X may wear faster than a 460 A A tire from Brand Y despite the '500' rating. Tread wear can only be compared to other tires from the same brand as it is a rating of wear from the (brand's) control tire. Even though Tire rack explains this, a lot of ppl still compare treadwear ratings. I look at the rated mileage warranty and the traction (AA, A, B) and the temperature (AA, A, B) ratings more than treadwear numbers.... Oh, I also look at price. Toyo, General, or Michelin for my current garage....
Ms. Fadra, thanks, I enjoyed the video. I'm not writing this as an endorsement for Bridgestone, simply wanted to underline that I agree with your statement about factory mounted tires. I purchased a new Honda Accord sedan in Feb. of 2016 - it sported Michelin and while new they preformed well in all aspects; plus I had used Michelin in the past on other vehicles with satisfaction. However after nearly three years and approximately 20K miles, even though they still had sufficient tread, I noticed that they were beginning to lose grip when wet and especially in curves. During my research, I discovered, as you had, that brand named tires acquired in bulk by auto manufacturers are not identical to the same brand tires available for purchase by the general public. Like you, I too did quite a bit of comparison and found Bridgestone Turanza Quiettrack 'checked all the boxes' for my car and driving habits. The first thing I noticed was that the Bridgestones were much quieter/smoother than the Michelin which came with the car. Four years later, I'm still pleased with Turanza.
Thanks for sharing. Not knocking Pirelli but my eyes were opened as well to the difference between OEM tires and aftermarket tires. I’m so thrilled with the Bridgestone Alenzas.
Also if you buy a new car every thing is stiff, suspension, brakes etc So if you had those non-OEM tires you would not enjoy how stiff the ride was. You might not even buy the car. Car manufacturers know what they are doing, they give the tire manufacturer the specs they want to achieve a comfortable test drive So now that you are buying off the shelf you are putting it on a vehicle that has been driven and the brakes and suspension is softer so the tires seem more comfortable
If you live somewhere that has all 4 seasons, it's hard to beat the Michelin Cross Climate 2's. Only tire I've found that inspires confidence in all conditions. A little more road noise at higher speeds is the tradeoff.
Yeah seems like tops for all around, "all season/weather" tires, specially winter performance but the Cross Climate can wear faster as well under certain or extreme driving conditions and are not the best for fuel effiency...😉
Great review! Had a 22 of the same car and regarding the road noise, it does not help that the car does not have acoustic glass, a big miss by Volvo IMHO.
Great review and comparison. For me, i think the mic picked up a. It too much ambient noise for me to hear the fulsomeness of the difference, but i can hear the edges of it. Looking forward to checking out some more of your content!
Of course! I didn't dare to claim that these tires are the best tires out of all the tires. I actually went to Bridgestone and asked for their recommendation for a replacement based on the road noise. I specifically asked for a quiet SUV tire.
Alenza is actually a very popular OEM right now, it does have some issues… I would recommend the Pirelli AS 3 Plus or the Continental LX25. OEM uses a softer compound so it’s a smoother ride. Yes smooth means you buy the car but it is going to get louder after 20K. That’s because you are wearing them down. It’s not the same as the 70K Pirelli AS 3 Plus or 80K Michelin Defender you see on Tire Rack.
I have run on my Buick Enclave both the Pirelli Scorpion Verde and Scorpion AS Plus 3, which rode so hard that I got rid of them after a few months. I went with Continental LX 25, which ride softer and quieter.
Tire Rack and Discount Tire both have better performing tires than those ultras. Like, Perelli Scorpion Weatheractive, Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3, Continental Cross Contact LX25, Michelin Cross Climate 2, Yokohama Geolander CV GO58 and even, Goodyear Assurance Weather Ready.
Better performance generally means faster cornering. Which means very stiff sidewall. In a tall SUV, the vehicle itself might not be able to corner that fast even if the tires can. Generally if the tires can handle corners 15 miles over the yellow warning signs, that good enough for most driving situations. You can set cruise control at 70 mph and any turn 55 or higher you can just go through without slowing down. For spirited driving in a sport car, of course the criteria for tire selection will be completely different.
Bridgestone advertisment.they gave her the tyres.interesting to hear if pirelli tyres were noisy when new or became that way with nearly 30 k on them.also lot of allseason tires tend to be more noisy than summer tyres .
What are you all guys saying? Is this an antycommercial for Bridgestone or..? I live in central europe, half of a year its warm as hell, half o a year its dark and cold with frequent snow falls. Bridgestone is winning a lot of contents and offers one of the best breaking distances. No matter if the test is on wet, dry, slippery its always on one of first three positions. I own Blizzark tires as my winter and as my summer tires. It was always performing excellent, opposite to for example Michelin or Pirelli I got OEM in my vehicles. To be honest I dont care if I'll do 35 or 40k miles on a set of tires, the more important for me is to have a grip when it's needed.
Here in Northern Europe our Winters are sub zero and long and dark, Continental , Nokian, Vredestein are the favourite ask anyone here , I don't see Bridgestone recommended anywhere, looking at these tires they look like they do not have enough Sipes to be flexible in deep snow, I am male I do not care about tread pattern I care about the traction and the Tire compound and what's best in a blizzard with my family onboard in a near 2000kg car, not saying they are bad tires but we go with what works for us, I know the compounds of Euro tires vs US tires are completely different with the same brands Euro tires having a softer stickier compound. I also know our tires are more expensive, so they are a huge investment for us. I could not see these All seasons tires being adequate for our needs.
The snow doesn't stick around very long at all in most places that get it in the U.S. The Michelin Cross Climate 2's are the best all weather tires I've found so far.
there's a little bit of a difference from the pirellis to the Bridgestone of road noise but with me being an over-the-road driver we did what we call tire siping and that would give the tire a little bit better ride of cutting through all junk
Continental advertises their CrossContact LX25 as giving you "that new car ride". They claim it has some sort of cushion layer, which I believe because my LX25 tires ride noticeably better than the Pirelli Scorpion AS+ that I had before.
My truck needs a new set of all-season tires, and I was on the fence as to which brand to go with, choice being Bridgestone or Pirelli. I was leaning towards Bridgestone, and this video has definitely helped in the final decision (Bridgestone - ALENZA AS ULTRA). Thank you. You actually settled a bit of a dispute between hubby and myself; I won, LOL.
Of course new tires are going to be quieter than 30,000 mile tires. I've run both Pirelli Scorpion Verde and Scorpion AS Plus 3 on my Buick Enclave and they ride too hard. I actually got rid of a new set of Scorpion AS Plus 3 and put on Continental LX 25, which ride smoother and quieter, instead.
My point is that the tires were loud from the moment I drove off of the lot. The dealer quality Pirellis were definitely a lesser tire than the Alenza.
The problem is the Pirelli Scorpion Verde tire. The overall better tire is the Pirelli AS plus 3. You should have gotten this instead of the Bridgestone.
Tbh there is nothing wrong with Alenza or Scorpion here… she could have gotten AS Plus 3 or LX25. But yeah if you have the money or have an opportunity to get it free go for it. Her biggest problem is she’s not driving a GLE 63S or Cayenne Turbo… she would not hear the tires or her music because the 500+ HP V-8 is so loud
I have the Alenza A/S sport on my car such a sub par tire 8k miles loud don't like to stop as for the ride... Garbage ! If bought new tires and still that loud I'd be mad.
Also people like this getting $1200 tires for free contributes to all the fake reviews we have watch through, i wish people had more shame, like what if i actually bought these for road comfort? And it turns out you were just saying what they want you to highlight. Hopefully people have dignity restored one day
Paid advertisement! I have the Scorpion Verde All season tires with my Kia Sorento and they're brilliant! Wouldn't listen to this woman and be turned off with Pirelli Scorpion Verde.
this have to be the worst I came across in a while I don’t reply to videos but this one was the worst so much miss information just because you got some free tires 😂 your tires was just find before you change them trying to down play the other brand you even say I could get 80k miles from the new tires you installed lolll how could you say that tell if everyone have different driving style and habits
@@Reem-n2b3pIf this is “the worst” then you haven’t spent much time on RUclips. Everything I discussed was factual information about the Alenza tires. Yes, driving style absolutely affects the longevity of the tires but most of this video is my opinion. That’s what this channel is about. It’s an informed opinion and you’re always welcome to disagree but it’s better if you do it in a constructive way.
I have more than 90,000 km on my 2020 CR-V with OEM Bridgestone Ecopias and some of that is on my Michelin X-Ice Snows. I would say at least 60K km not miles on the OEM. Still good for at least 2 more seasons I think. I usually replace them early too. Still above 4mm of tread depth. Very quiet and comfortable. Bridgestone is still the world’s #1 Tire Manufacturer by revenue
That's not how it works. This is editorial content. If I didn't like the tires, I'd tell you why. Or I'd just focus on the positives of the tires instead of comparing them to what I feel was an inferior product. I have plenty of shame and dignity. I lost neither with talking about tires.
I have Alenza’s on my 09 XC90 and I love them! Excellent wet traction!
tread wear cannot be compared from brand to brand. A 500 A A tire from brand X may wear faster than a 460 A A tire from Brand Y despite the '500' rating. Tread wear can only be compared to other tires from the same brand as it is a rating of wear from the (brand's) control tire. Even though Tire rack explains this, a lot of ppl still compare treadwear ratings. I look at the rated mileage warranty and the traction (AA, A, B) and the temperature (AA, A, B) ratings more than treadwear numbers.... Oh, I also look at price. Toyo, General, or Michelin for my current garage....
Ms. Fadra, thanks, I enjoyed the video. I'm not writing this as an endorsement for Bridgestone, simply wanted to underline that I agree with your statement about factory mounted tires. I purchased a new Honda Accord sedan in Feb. of 2016 - it sported Michelin and while new they preformed well in all aspects; plus I had used Michelin in the past on other vehicles with satisfaction. However after nearly three years and approximately 20K miles, even though they still had sufficient tread, I noticed that they were beginning to lose grip when wet and especially in curves. During my research, I discovered, as you had, that brand named tires acquired in bulk by auto manufacturers are not identical to the same brand tires available for purchase by the general public. Like you, I too did quite a bit of comparison and found Bridgestone Turanza Quiettrack 'checked all the boxes' for my car and driving habits. The first thing I noticed was that the Bridgestones were much quieter/smoother than the Michelin which came with the car. Four years later, I'm still pleased with Turanza.
Thanks for sharing. Not knocking Pirelli but my eyes were opened as well to the difference between OEM tires and aftermarket tires. I’m so thrilled with the Bridgestone Alenzas.
Also if you buy a new car every thing is stiff, suspension, brakes etc
So if you had those non-OEM tires you would not enjoy how stiff the ride was. You might not even buy the car.
Car manufacturers know what they are doing, they give the tire manufacturer the specs they want to achieve a comfortable test drive
So now that you are buying off the shelf you are putting it on a vehicle that has been driven and the brakes and suspension is softer so the tires seem more comfortable
If you live somewhere that has all 4 seasons, it's hard to beat the Michelin Cross Climate 2's. Only tire I've found that inspires confidence in all conditions. A little more road noise at higher speeds is the tradeoff.
Yeah seems like tops for all around, "all season/weather" tires, specially winter performance but the Cross Climate can wear faster as well under certain or extreme driving conditions and are not the best for fuel effiency...😉
Great review! Had a 22 of the same car and regarding the road noise, it does not help that the car does not have acoustic glass, a big miss by Volvo IMHO.
There’s a lot more I expected from Volvo TBH
Also keep in mind OEM tire warranties are much more limited than the warranty you'll get in an aftermarket purchase from the same mfg and tire brand!
Good to know! I honestly had no idea there was a difference before I worked with Bridgestone on this.
Great review and comparison. For me, i think the mic picked up a. It too much ambient noise for me to hear the fulsomeness of the difference, but i can hear the edges of it. Looking forward to checking out some more of your content!
You did ZERO research. Calling one tire company you will get what they recommend from their products.
Of course! I didn't dare to claim that these tires are the best tires out of all the tires. I actually went to Bridgestone and asked for their recommendation for a replacement based on the road noise. I specifically asked for a quiet SUV tire.
Alenza is actually a very popular OEM right now, it does have some issues… I would recommend the Pirelli AS 3 Plus or the Continental LX25.
OEM uses a softer compound so it’s a smoother ride. Yes smooth means you buy the car but it is going to get louder after 20K.
That’s because you are wearing them down. It’s not the same as the 70K Pirelli AS 3 Plus or 80K Michelin Defender you see on Tire Rack.
I have run on my Buick Enclave both the Pirelli Scorpion Verde and Scorpion AS Plus 3, which rode so hard that I got rid of them after a few months. I went with Continental LX 25, which ride softer and quieter.
Tire Rack and Discount Tire both have better performing tires than those ultras. Like, Perelli Scorpion Weatheractive, Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3, Continental Cross Contact LX25, Michelin Cross Climate 2, Yokohama Geolander CV GO58 and even, Goodyear Assurance Weather Ready.
Better performance generally means faster cornering. Which means very stiff sidewall. In a tall SUV, the vehicle itself might not be able to corner that fast even if the tires can. Generally if the tires can handle corners 15 miles over the yellow warning signs, that good enough for most driving situations. You can set cruise control at 70 mph and any turn 55 or higher you can just go through without slowing down. For spirited driving in a sport car, of course the criteria for tire selection will be completely different.
Bridgestone advertisment.they gave her the tyres.interesting to hear if pirelli tyres were noisy when new or became that way with nearly 30 k on them.also lot of allseason tires tend to be more noisy than summer tyres .
Thank you...
What are you all guys saying? Is this an antycommercial for Bridgestone or..? I live in central europe, half of a year its warm as hell, half o a year its dark and cold with frequent snow falls. Bridgestone is winning a lot of contents and offers one of the best breaking distances. No matter if the test is on wet, dry, slippery its always on one of first three positions. I own Blizzark tires as my winter and as my summer tires. It was always performing excellent, opposite to for example Michelin or Pirelli I got OEM in my vehicles. To be honest I dont care if I'll do 35 or 40k miles on a set of tires, the more important for me is to have a grip when it's needed.
Any updates? are you still happy with the sound? how miles currently?
I’m still really pleased with the sound, the ride, and the tread. Not sure on the mileage though. I probably put about 10-15k miles on every year.
Here in Northern Europe our Winters are sub zero and long and dark, Continental , Nokian, Vredestein are the favourite ask anyone here , I don't see Bridgestone recommended anywhere, looking at these tires they look like they do not have enough Sipes to be flexible in deep snow, I am male I do not care about tread pattern I care about the traction and the Tire compound and what's best in a blizzard with my family onboard in a near 2000kg car, not saying they are bad tires but we go with what works for us, I know the compounds of Euro tires vs US tires are completely different with the same brands Euro tires having a softer stickier compound. I also know our tires are more expensive, so they are a huge investment for us. I could not see these All seasons tires being adequate for our needs.
The snow doesn't stick around very long at all in most places that get it in the U.S. The Michelin Cross Climate 2's are the best all weather tires I've found so far.
Informative video ! thanks! :D My BMW came with this wheels and was wondering ig they were good or If I should change them
OEM tires will always wear faster, they are softer and have less tread than the same tire purchased outside the dealership
there's a little bit of a difference from the pirellis to the Bridgestone of road noise but with me being an over-the-road driver we did what we call tire siping and that would give the tire a little bit better ride of cutting through all junk
Continental advertises their CrossContact LX25 as giving you "that new car ride". They claim it has some sort of cushion layer, which I believe because my LX25 tires ride noticeably better than the Pirelli Scorpion AS+ that I had before.
That’s interesting about a cushion layer. I’ll have to look into that to that. If it implies a softer rubber, it might not be great in the winter.
Did you say they are good for about 80,000 miles???
Yes, they have a limited warranty up to 80,000 miles!
Very nice video. Tirerack is own by discount tire now.
Bridgestone was too soft, I had to pump them up more. I went back to the pirelli
I noticed that too. I always needed to add 2-3 lbs more than spec for mine to perform better
Any tire with 30k will be louder than even the same tire new!I change my tires every 30k,the rubber gets harder as the tire wears in most tires.
My truck needs a new set of all-season tires, and I was on the fence as to which brand to go with, choice being Bridgestone or Pirelli. I was leaning towards Bridgestone, and this video has definitely helped in the final decision (Bridgestone - ALENZA AS ULTRA). Thank you. You actually settled a bit of a dispute between hubby and myself; I won, LOL.
Ooh, I love that! I can tell you that months later, I’m still enjoying my tires.
The Verde isn't tops in the Scorpion category so of course the Bridgestone is gonna outperform overall.
When you're buying a luxury vehicle like a Volvo, I'm expecting better tires than what I got from Pirelli.
Of course new tires are going to be quieter than 30,000 mile tires. I've run both Pirelli Scorpion Verde and Scorpion AS Plus 3 on my Buick Enclave and they ride too hard. I actually got rid of a new set of Scorpion AS Plus 3 and put on Continental LX 25, which ride smoother and quieter, instead.
My point is that the tires were loud from the moment I drove off of the lot. The dealer quality Pirellis were definitely a lesser tire than the Alenza.
The problem is the Pirelli Scorpion Verde tire. The overall better tire is the Pirelli AS plus 3. You should have gotten this instead of the Bridgestone.
Or Continental LX25
Tbh there is nothing wrong with Alenza or Scorpion here… she could have gotten AS Plus 3 or LX25.
But yeah if you have the money or have an opportunity to get it free go for it.
Her biggest problem is she’s not driving a GLE 63S or Cayenne Turbo… she would not hear the tires or her music because the 500+ HP V-8 is so loud
I have the Alenza A/S sport on my car such a sub par tire 8k miles loud don't like to stop as for the ride... Garbage ! If bought new tires and still that loud I'd be mad.
Also people like this getting $1200 tires for free contributes to all the fake reviews we have watch through, i wish people had more shame, like what if i actually bought these for road comfort? And it turns out you were just saying what they want you to highlight. Hopefully people have dignity restored one day
Pirelli great new , not so great after 10000 miles…. You won’t appreciate a Bridgestone/ Michelin right away….
Sound the same to me
It’s tough to capture on video using my iPhone. But the sound and the ride were better for me.
Bridgestone are horrible. I had them on my 2023 Escalade
I swapped out for Michelin
I'd put on General Tires before Bridgestone
Paid advertisement! I have the Scorpion Verde All season tires with my Kia Sorento and they're brilliant! Wouldn't listen to this woman and be turned off with Pirelli Scorpion Verde.
Is this an ad? Feels like it.
Nope. They sent me free tires but the rest is all editorial content.
this have to be the worst I came across in a while I don’t reply to videos but this one was the worst so much miss information just because you got some free tires 😂 your tires was just find before you change them trying to down play the other brand you even say I could get 80k miles from the new tires you installed lolll how could you say that tell if everyone have different driving style and habits
@@Reem-n2b3pIf this is “the worst” then you haven’t spent much time on RUclips. Everything I discussed was factual information about the Alenza tires. Yes, driving style absolutely affects the longevity of the tires but most of this video is my opinion. That’s what this channel is about. It’s an informed opinion and you’re always welcome to disagree but it’s better if you do it in a constructive way.
Basically a paid promotion, they gave her $1200 of tires for a review and she mentions it at the very end. Sketchy
Pirelli centurato vs Bridgestone Dueller. Much better tires.
From the video pirelli sounds better, less noise.
I think the road noise was definitely quieter with the new tires but as a result of that, you could hear the wind noise more.
Bridgestone…. Very bad tyre… 35.000 km 😢😢. In this lifetime i will not buy anymore Bridgestone…
I have more than 90,000 km on my 2020 CR-V with OEM Bridgestone Ecopias and some of that is on my Michelin X-Ice Snows.
I would say at least 60K km not miles on the OEM.
Still good for at least 2 more seasons I think. I usually replace them early too. Still above 4mm of tread depth.
Very quiet and comfortable.
Bridgestone is still the world’s #1 Tire Manufacturer by revenue
Basically a paid promotion. They gave you tires to make a review. Which means you are biased, i find that to be lame.
That's not how it works. This is editorial content. If I didn't like the tires, I'd tell you why. Or I'd just focus on the positives of the tires instead of comparing them to what I feel was an inferior product. I have plenty of shame and dignity. I lost neither with talking about tires.
The worst tires have ever had, very, very, very noisy.
Toyo’s came on my CX5 Mazda, dead silent. Almost uncanny.
money to burn
This is just a paid commercial.
I wish I got paid!
You should be bitching about Volvo for putting those crap tires on your car.
Good point! But I did get. Good deal on the Volvo so I can’t complain too much.