Are these the BEST new clubs for average golfers? (Vice Golf VGI01)
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I'll say these new clubs look absolutely amazing!
U paint your nails pink too i bet!
@@mre_man lmao, projecting much?
@@mre_manyou know you can keep the colors neutral but you’re just trying hard to be different lol
I’ll try these out in 3-5 years for -$300 set. Awesome
Shafts are "Whiz Steel by True Temper" available in 90g, 105g and 125g. They seem to be exclusive to these new clubs. Also available in a range of "Whiz Graphite" options produced by Mitsubishi Chemical.
I usually "Whiz Steel" by hole #8 after I just pounded a 6 pack on the front 9 ⛳️ 🍺
I usually "Whiz Steel" by the 8th hole after I just pounded a 6 pack on the front 9 ⛳️ 🍺
They should shoot for $800-900 range, so a little more than the $500 (Takomo/Ram/Kirkland) sets but $4-600 less than the TaylorMade/Calloway, Mizuno, and Ping. I think only a few hundred dollars less isn't enough to gamble on these direct to consumer irons. They look great though.
@@jasonmizuno6117 Realistically they aren’t even that much less. 1200 dollars for a set of irons gets you a set of Srixons or Wilsons
Hey Jason, we appreciate your thoughts on this. Similar to our golf balls, our primary objective was to release a range of clubs that can compete with the best out there. We know that these irons are producing as good (better in some cases...) numbers as the traditional brands you noted - we are in this really exciting time where the more independent reviews that are published, the more it will become evident that we have a really really high performing product!
It's also worth noting, that the pricing of clubs is heavily driven by not only the physical product/R&D, but also the incredibly lengthy logistical operation behind any club manufacture. There is a huge segment of the golf club market who drive down their prices by cutting every single corner there is throughout their operation. Of course, the price is important to consumers, but we have no intention to compromise in quality at any stage of our operation. The best example I can share of this; we've taken on the workload to custom build everything in Germany. Why? It ensures the product we ship is of the highest quality.
Thanks again for your thoughts here!
@@VICEGOLF I’ve been using an older set of Callaway Apex irons for awhile now, I’d love to see how these new irons compare to them!
I see you're point,but they're golf balls are awesome,and I now have a Vice Mallet putter and 60 degree wedge, they're products never disappoint,no reason to doubt their irons
Rick, the name to which you refer, Wunderkind, is German. The correct pronunciation is vunder kint. Nice review.
It translates to Wonderkid :p
@@TtvPhenrik1 Ted Lasso FTW
I already bought man weeks ago the 7 Iron and tested These now many days and now i ordered the whole Set, because of many reasons:
1. unbelievable Look
2. very good forgivness , for a so great looking Club
3. ball shaping is easy and distance is closely like by a distance club like the paradym smoke or the taylormade p770 -p790.
I would absolutely recommend these clubs.
Any downside to the clubs thus far? I'm very intrigued by these clubs, but the price point is tough for me to get over
Great to hear, Richard!
At the moment i have no negative points, because i tested them inside with a trackman (i icreased Swing speed), what i did not suspectet, because at the moment i use a game improvment Club (Nike vapor fly), i Know the nike's are very old but i also compared Vice to New clubs like paradym and p790 and taylormade MB.
And i also tested them on course and i think the Clubs will Help me on my Journey from HCP 17 to round about 10 :)
@@richardhurth9146 keep us posted how they hold up outside. Best of luck for your handicap goals! You’ve got the best tools to help you get there
@@richardhurth9146 I appreciate the feedback. Cheers to lowering that handicap!
Hey Rick, I feel like you were trying too hard to sell these clubs lol. Vice golf clubs($1200+) is definitely not for an average golfer. Let’s be honest, you should recommend the kirkland irons($500), you were hitting better shots with them.
Unless they are just fine with selling a very small amount of these clubs, they are going to have to seriously lower the price. $600 should be the max for these. At $1200 only the most hardcore Vice fanboys with that kind of money are going to buy these. Cant imagine there are a lot of those people out there.
Still a bit pricey. They look great. Nice review Rick. Check out the Maltby irons.
Agreed! Maltby!
I'll second the notion...
Maltby TS1 IM,, absolute golden!
4:17 Regarding shafts, the Vice web site says the steel shafts are "Whiz Steel by True Temper" with a choice of 90, 105 or 125 grams. Or you can choose Whiz Graphite by Mitsubishi Chemical in 45, 60, 75, 95g.
For those in the US, it's also possible to get fit for all of our clubs at Club Champion - a great option to try their crazyyy big shaft selection!
Hi Rick, it would be awesome to see you review some one length irons. As a new golfer it is something I'm considering but would great to hear your opinion and see some data. Awesome video as always
Great review. They really look like amazing clubs. Blessings, Rick
I would love to see you review the Maltby ts3 irons to see how they compare to these
Well, Rick, my boy, when you get tired of them, I'd love to take them off your hands, mate. They look outstanding. I really do love the look of them. Well done, Vice.
First set of new clubs that have peeked my interest in quite a few years. Somewhat disappointed that they are so strong-lofted, but I guess I can get over that. Wonder if they feel as good as my hogan apex edge pros.
Glad to hear! It's super quick to get used to the stronger lofts. With any new irons, regardless of the lofts, its always best to try them at a driving range and/or with a launch monitor to get your distances dialled in 👌
1200 bucks is NOT cheap. That’s basically a set of Titleist or Callaway Irons. Vice built their entire brand on being less expensive than the big brands. This was NOT the move. For 1200 bucks you can nearly buy TWO sets of Takomo irons.
Completely agree, and I even play Vice balls. If Im spending $1000+ on irons Im not even going to consider Vice - Im going with Wilson, Titleist, Mizuno, Ping, Taylormade, Callaway, Cobra or even PXG.
These clubs look great and Im sure they perform well, but with no track record and proprietary shafts on a budget brand, they need to compete with Takomo not Mizuno…
I will tgen rather spend 300 more and buy Tp790irons
my thoughts exactly
@@LegacyAirTech if you buying just because of the name you probably should stay with the heritage brands. BUT If you really want to get the best product for your game you should definitely consider us.
Vice clubs have been developed with millions of data points from amateurs like you and me in mind. And they will definitely improve your game; probably not the one of a tour player who could potentially still play with hickory golf clubs and perform great. We in comparison to other brands will custom build according to your specs every single club and give you customization options like no other brand. So just try them out and return them if you don’t fall in love! Vice clubs are made just for you👊🏼👍🏼
@@VICEGOLFpretty dope of you guys for reading and responding to comments from your potential customers. You gained cool points just for that lol.
I really like the look of the Vice Clubs and the customizability of the colorways, and the performance seems to be bang on. HOWEVER, I always consider resale value for any large purchase, which golf equipment is. I don't plan on reselling anytime soon, but it is always a consideration, and the legacy brands hold their costs better (at least as we sit today).
Still need a Takomo review!
I do really like the look of these clubs and I like a lot of Vice’s products. However, I think these are priced too high, especially when you consider that they don’t have a name premium shaft… For the same price you could get a set of Srixon Z Forged irons with Dynamic Gold X100 shafts.
@@alexjennings3165 They built their whole identity around being a lower priced alternative to the ProV1 and ProV1X, only to bring out a set the same price as a set of T150 Titleist Irons. So many other DTC Club manufacturers (Takomo, Sub70, Maltby) are producing insanely good clubs for WAY less
Hey Alex, thanks for the compliment! Regarding the shafts, our steel shafts are made in collaboration with True Temper and Graphite with Mitsubishi.
Do they feel solid off the hosel?
Man the colors are so cool! So excited for these clubs!
Rick, it looks like you have a nice smooth rhythm in the studio. Noticeably better than when you're on the course.
My honest view... I don't believe any company has the right to charge premium club prices when brand new into the market,$1100 isn't particularly cheaper, especially not considering who these irons are aimed at. Surely higher prices come with heritage, and a proven track record. I think they look nice but I wouldn't pick these over a company that have been at it for years. Not at all...
Hey Cameron, you've raised a totally valid point here.
What we know and love about the golf world, is that golfers always demand high performing equipment to aid their game.
The more we see independent reviews of our clubs, like Rick's here, it will become evident that our products are as high performing as any others out there. Also, included in our pricing is a complete custom build and customisation options (which is only going to grow)
Loving the Rosapenna Golf Course Hat Rick. Class.
These look cool as heck but was hoping the price point would be lower
Hey RIck, thanks for your reviews, they're always a pleasure to watch. Just one tiny thing on pronounciation: In "Wunderkind" the "i" is pronounced like in "hint". "Kind" is german for child
Great video. Out of the two which did you like more? Looks, feel, sound, etc
Brilliant looking irons and review! Did make me laugh when you said they were available in 5 colours then listed 6 😂
Really enjoy the look of these blades!
Would genuinely love to try a set of these
I'm an average type golfer (whatever that really means). I'm not spending that on my golf equipment right now. Found new clubs from 22'. Mixed/matched what works for me. I feel that many golfers are doing similar things to bring equipment costs down?
I had an old set of irons that were good enough for me but then I wanted a 3 hybrid. I found one in the bargain bin at 2nd Swing Golf for 5 bucks. Over time I have replaced most of my irons with hybrids from that bin. I like having a weird mix of ridiculously cheap clubs. It's kind of my hobby and I am not ashamed of it.
they look nice tbf
I don't know about them being on the cheaper side...I just ordered a new set of JPX 923's for less than $1000. The vice clubs look great but they are not proven yet.
Looking good Rick. Good to see you are working on yourself.
Where’s the low stinger?!
I loved that you played with the shot shapes ❤
I would purchase a set of Takomo irons or a used set of Taylormade, Callaway, and Mizuno irons well before considering these. I could see myself using their balls but not any of their clubs. I am not a fan of the limited shaft options either. Great video Rick!
Agreed on used over these. But, not sure why you’d consider Takomo if you wouldn’t consider these.
@@lawbinsonTakomo is half the price.
@@lawbinson Because you can buy two sets of Takomos for the same price as these. Vice built their entire identity around being an affordable alternative to the big ball brands. Then they drop a set of, let’s face it, mediocre looking irons for the same price as a new set of Titleist T150 irons. Make it make sense
@@Simple_Man_Golf If you think these look mediocre it's probably best to get your eyes checked.
It’s wunder k in d not kind😅 great vid again
EXACTLY. Rhymes with Wind. as in breezy....
Voonderkint…. Is how it’s pronounced 👍
Love the content, curious to see how Haywood Golf would come out of your tests, a DTC brand.
Nice iron's for sure, I'd go white paint fill absolutely no colors, just know that Maltby TSI IM will be better in all aspects including MY favorite shaft and grips...for less money. I use the TSIM as reference since it seems closest to this model.
The price here is too high in this particular market which could be deliberate, don't know why that would be.
They look so good. I use vice balls. Might need the clubs too
You're looking trim Rick. Well done for working on yourself, it's inspiring 🤜🤛
Wow, another very impressive display by Vice.
On par with Wilson pricing. I think they are still about 10% higher than they need to be to get into the market but I guess we will see
The colouring looks great😁
Great video as always but at that price point it's a no for me. So many solid dtc options out there: Sub70, New Level, Takomo, etc. When I'm ready to drop $1k+ on irons it will be with a top tier name.
We understand what you are saying but we definitely are different than DTC clubs and compare our selves to the big brands. Beside the comparison in performance we do everything else different and do built our clubs individually in Germany (for single order). We apply the highest precision possible and are proud to say thatbour clubs are built for really amateurs having millions of data points in mind to not please the next PGA tour player but YOU! We will improve your game! Promised! And if you don’t like the clubs just return them; even customized! No questions asked👍🏼👊🏼
I’d like to see you review a cheap, but legit, set of irons versus and very expensive Taylormade, or something like that. Does iron technology vary very much anymore?
I lost a p wedge in my Callaway set last year and the golf shop I go to made me one from a head I had never heard of before. I love it. It’s definitely no worse than the Callaways. To me at least.
£1100 isnt really 'cheap' i just had a set of Taylormade p790 fitted for £1220 so i cant see why anoyone would have the vice set over another irons?
I can only give you my reasons why i choose these clubs. :
1. I dont want to play material, what everyone is playing.
2. I 💯% trust the HIO / Vice fitting/making quality , you can See it in every Detail from the Clubs
3. Massive good ball striking with these, i would recommend To buy one 7 Iron and then you will See ;)
I’m in the market for a new set of irons. I definitely want to go for a DTC brand. Why should I pay more for vice irons???
Look like a great shot shaping set 🤙
Hey Rick, can you review the Takomo irons (101 or 101T). People saying they’re like the p790/P770 for a fraction of the price. Cheers
Interesting review Rick
Please test out the Takomo irons! The 101 or the 101T
Hi Rick.... Have you reviewed the new wilson staff 2024 wedges? They look alot more like vokeys now.
These look great, would look better in 4k. Come on Rick, it's 2024!
“Didn’t quite catch it”
“Not my best strike”
I’m begging Rick to play more forgiving equipment instead of what looks the best
Ego is a hell of a thing
from your lips to Gods ears...I'd like to be Ricks Jacob Marley just for one night...
Would love to see you test PRGR irons please.
Cut grip off and look at stamping under grip/on the shaft. Be able to tell if it’s True Temper, PJX, KBS, or Nippon
Bounce is increased compared to ? These seem to be very interesting to me. Hopefully they will add lighter grips too.
Look great
When might we see you test out some takomo irons? Would love your opinion on all variants they have
Thought you was changing your putting grip 😆😆 no giveaways?
Would be interesting to see a "what's in the bag and why" video Rick 👍
I like the way golfers count at 0:37:
1) Black
2) Green
3) White
4) Pink
Mulligan 4) Blue
5) Red
Rick! Please review the Takomo 101t’s! You won’t be disappointed!
Top 50 !!! look nice ...
Put them in the bag Rick!
Hi Rick love the vids I was wondering if you could test the benross delta xt irons they are very affordable and good
really want to see you test out the Takomo's now
It was so weird listening to this review. It would be the exact same as my pxg 0311 p irons. The heads felt super light and my front to back was fantastic. I just couldn't control the left to right
Rick loves the word “intrigued”.
Hey Rick do you think you could do a comparison for us high handicappers…… titleist velocity vs vice drive golf balls!!!!?!…….
Please review a set of old BeCu Ping eye 2s!
🔥🔥🔥
If the heads have been made lighter it would be interesting to know what the swingweight is. To keep it in the normal steel shaft SW of D0-D2 they will have had to lose weight at the grip end somehow. Personally really don’t like a light swingweight.
Every set hand built. So no problem adding weight during building.
Pricing is fair if you consider that VICE is not a new company at all. Yes they are new to the club market game but lets be honest when buying a new set of irons at minimum you are looking to spend anywhere from 1200 to 2000. If you are expecting lower than you are looking at the prior years models or used sets. If you were to customize a set of Titleist or any other brand the price jumps closer to 2000. VICE also knows that their devoted following will jump all over these.
Rick, would you game these irons??????
Great review Rick, ps its pronounced Vunder'Kin'D ;-) keep up the top work.
Now I know why someone of ricks team was at HIO fitting getting fitted 😊
Expensive, I got 4-SW mizuno JPX23 last year for much much less
Are the blade lengths the same all the way through 5?
These look amazing
Cool colors!
please review the takomo irons!
They need to make these in lefty. But I’ll wait and see how they hold up for a few years
Good morning! Change your back round scenery.😉
I don't understand the lighter head thing, how much lighter than standard? So what swing weight at standard length with an average 100-110g shaft and standard 52g grip?
Might be one of the best looking irons out there right now. And your review makes me believe they are priced where they should be. A little cheaper would be nice, tho...
The Kirkland Signature Iron set has entered the chat…
Great review
Has he reviewed the TSR driver lineup?
I wished these irons was released in left hand. I'd love to try them
Coming soon! 😃
@@VICEGOLF How soon are we talking?
Getting some Latin vibes from the soundtrack, Rick. Golf trip to the Caribbean soon?
Please review Takomo 301mb.
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@@lawbinsonno
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It worked
Yep it worked. And I will leave your like there for the new knowledge!
Rick ur crushing it 👊
They look great
These clubs just don't make sense from a price perspective. When you consider that the Pro Plus balls are as low as $33/dozen, or effectively 40% cheaper than a ProV, TP5, etc. you kind of expect them to be in that price range, which would mean around $800-$900 for the clubs. Then you see that these irons are $1120 for a 4-pw set, while a set of TItleist, TaylorMade, Callaway etc., are $1400, you're getting maybe a 20% discount, which, while not nothing, really isn't enough to convince people to try them. When you're pot committed and spending $1100+ on irons, what's another $280 at that point to get the big brand? Not to mention, as far as I know you can't go into a store and demo these Vice irons or get fit for them. Are people really going to spend $1120 without seeing or hitting them first? If you're flying in the dark like that, why wouldn't you just get a set of Sub 70 or Takomos for under $700? As Rick has noted, they seem like pretty good clubs, but man the pricing just doesn't add up for a DTC iron.
Please review TAKOMO irons😊
Rick feels like u should put them in the bag to try. Seems like you find clubs you hit well but won't take the big names out the bag
Yeah! Come on Rick! 😃
Do they have any plans for high level golfers?
Hi
Rick please do a video and teach us how to do keep ups with a golf club 😂😂