This is actually a pretty clear differentiation. If you're replacing your driver then the Callaway is the better club. If you're looking for more of a utility club at the top end of the bag then it's the Burner.
Recently added the Burner 11.5* to the bag in place of my TSi-2 driver. About 10-15 yards less distance on well hit shots but I don't hit my driver that well to start. I hit twice as much fairways with the mini-driver and my scores have dropped. FWIW, I'm a bogey golfer.
I have basically the same experience. Although my Burner is a few years older, it`s replaced both my driver (Sim2) and 3-wood (TS2). I`m finding loads more fairways and because it`s easier to hit, having more fun playing golf. I`m a bogey player also.
Seems like Rick didn’t want to admit that the Taylormade is better than the Callaway. I hate Taylormade but it looked like Rick was swinging it better with the mini Burner.
Brnr is an absolute unicorn for me. Best club i’ve used in 30 yrs. Averaging 284 off tee which is only 5 yrds shorter than my driver but it’s insanely more accurate and forgiving. Easy to hit off fairway as well.
what would you recommend, 13.5 or 11.5? I'm not great by any means, driver is ok consistency, 13 HC. I am not sure why you would pick one over the other.
@@noskillzleague i’m a lefty so mine only came in 11.5 which is what i have it set on. I can crank down or up 2 degrees but 11.5 has been ideal. If u want a driver replacement, go 11.5
Is it me or is there a missed opportunity to show us something other than a 2019 driving range. I would think it would be pretty nice to use that 20k golf software and throw up a great 425 par 4 with a tighter fairway to show us the advantage/how straight a mini driver can be with an actual par 4? Love the channel and Rick and his team do an amazing job with the videos, just saying that could take it to another level.
The Burner was so much nicer shots. (One dodgy pull ruined the numbers). Making the fairway is key. I think its less flashy, but a better club for Rick
Marty Jertsen (PING VP of Fitting) talked about mini drivers on the PING Proving Grounds podcast a few times, and also in the WITB they posted on the PING YT channel. PING did some data analysis and found that players that drove the ball 300 yards or farther tended to use the 3-wood off the tee 90+ percent of the time. In this case, it makes a lot of sense to move to a mini, but also once you go mini driver and realize you're never hitting it off the deck, it makes sense to just carry a second driver like Finau did recently. Jertsen does the same - 12 degrees of loft and 2 or so inches shorter - so easy to hit. I started to do this and love the setup. Big driver goes 280, small driver goes 260.
Makes sense to me and I follow the same philosophy. I’m 305-310 with driver and never have a real need/use for a 3w. I’ve played a TM mini driver in the 3w spot for 4 years now and love it
I'm in the "2 driver camp" now for sure. G400 9.5 (45in playing length). TM Burner Mini 13.5 (down to 12). Best move I've made for my tee game in a while. Waaaaaay more fairways on tight holes with the Mini without a major distance penalty. Ditched the 3w.
I know immediately id choose TM. It is a beefed up 3 Wood and significant size change where the Callaway is just a toned down driver. So there is no significant change. I watched Rory's Video hitting the Burner and it was incredible to watch. Lazer straight over n over again. For the sake of boasting who is further i would take an all around better club and shot selection options so TM wins for me... I also feel Rick is an AB-TM - Anything But - Taylor Made.
I've had both and would definitely say the Callaway has the edge. It goes a little further, and is actually the more forgiving of the two. The only thing I could see the TM winning on is hitting off the fairway, but this is something I never did or will probably ever try. I have no bias and have had both these in the bag, hope it helps 👍
Love the mini driver reviews. My set up goes Driver (Callaway Rogue St Max set at 8 degrees, Taylormade Mini Driver set at 13 degrees and then 3 wood (Cobra Aerojet set at 16.5 degrees. I don’t hit far, driver 255, mini driver off the tee 240 off the deck 230, 3 wood 215.
Rick, I think a great future video would be, You vs. Guy. On a short course, or a course playing from the white tees, NO DRIVERS, Guy using TM mini, and Rick using Callaway mini! I would love to see that!!
I have a Titleist TSI2 3 wood turned up to 14 degrees. It goes much further than that brnr. I tasted it at PGA Tour Super store. Titleist equipment is just quietly better. Hence why the prices never drop on it.
That was a Battle Royale! It was interesting that the BRNR was the same on and off a tee. Even fairways don't hit like that. I had actually thought the Callaway would shine cranked down and weight front, but it just seemed to go too high to get to 300, the BRNR beat it, which was a surprise! I wish the stores near me had both to test and compare for my swing, as I just really struggle with driver.
Love my Burner 11,5 (plays 12) replaced my Radspeed. I lost like 20 yards but I’m always in play. Also easy to hit off the deck on both fairway and in the ruff! Just love it!
I have only ever tried the burner and it is incredible !! i usually use it to replace my driver off the tee but it doesn't go as far as my driver because of lofts, and is sooo easy to hit of the floor as well. The best driver/3 wood combo club ever. Well done Taylormade
I think for sure you need to play a round with it and see if that give you more confidence than that 3 iron. I think this would carry over to the regular driver like just seeing more fairways hit
I haven't tried either and probably won't. I can't afford to give up 10-15 yards, and because I'm not a long hitter, my driver misses aren't too offline/punishing anyway. But if I was going to look at them, the Callaway is better looking but the TM seems to be more versatile. I’d go for the Burner. But then again, I've never gotten along very well with TM drivers or fairway metals. Maybe I'd go for the Callaway 😅
How about a review of the latest TM Mini Burner compared to the actual original one (which I think came with a Bubble Shaft)? Would be very interested to see the difference in performance.
Not too far off the normal driver but straighter. Would like to see you do video with your current driver at ten and a half and eleven and half degrees and see if the dispersion is better without sacrificing too much distance.
Mini Burner all day long more versatile proving more useful in the bag, love the retro looks 👌🏻 I think the AI smoke size is probably too big to be a 3 wood replacement if you still plan to carry a driver, The TM would easily sit next a driver in the bag for fairway finding and long par 5's
Please try some performance shafts. Throw the CQ or VR in both then go head to head or old faithful “orange one”. I don’t know which would suit your swing best but I’d guess CQ or DI
I was ready to buy the Taylor Made but unfortunately, none now available. I've decided to put my 4 wood shaft in the TSi1 driver head and see what the results are. Waiting for the shaft adapter to arrive and remember to correct the swing weight as it will likely be much lower with the shorter shaft. Fingers crossed I get some good results🤞
I play the Taylormade mini Driver and if you really wanna optimize that club use a counter balanced shaft and it changes everything, I am club fitter and I ran myself through a fitting with Ventus TR blue and Tensei pro orange and the pro orange being counter balanced offered more consistent spin rates on all hits across the face too. Ventus was everywhere and I play TR blue in every wood but the mini driver
I hope more mini-drivers are on the way from other brands, and that they will NOT be limited volume editions like the two tested here which makes it difficult to get one even if you want it.
I would like to see you play a few rounds with a normal driver and a few rounds with a mini driver and compare your driving stats--fairways hit, strokes gained, distance etc.
I have them both ( each 11.5 ) and the Taylor made wins it for me, way easier off the deck and great off the tee but if you are buying one of these to replace a driver because you struggle off the tee then the Callaway might be the better choice for you with the larger head and I too find it to play the left side more.
I think for golf in windy conditions, these are better options than long irons off the tee. Weight forward, hit it like a fairway wood but teed up a centimeter and it's just so good.
I just picked up a new Burner Mini-driver (3 plus+) 11.5/stiff and played 3 rounds this past weekend. I rolled off one fairway otherwise hit the rest after 2 range sessions hitting 10 drives or so before heading out to the course. Is it long? No. I was a consistent 225-230 off the box, couldn't replicate the 270s I'm seeing video's like Rick's have. Which is basically a swing speed thing I'm sure. Needless to say, having the confidence to be in the fairway and calmness in a swing is a relief. I'm wondering if the Qi10 would add 20 more yards than the burner mini with the same swing speed? Fairways and Greens boys, fairways and greens.
correct. I have my Callaway mini lofted down and opened up to 12.5 with the heavy weight forward. I definitely get a pretty consistent little left to right shot with it. dont notice any drop off in forgiveness compared to the heavy weight being in the back.
I'm truly old school I like an idea Sam Sneed had in his book on the game. A 1.5 wood or a two wood on a driver shaft can still use as a driver or hit it off the deck.
Honestly, as much fun as the video was, it isn’t a fair test regardless. The BRNR is only 304cc while the Calloway is 340…big difference. It’s like saying you’re comparing a standard driver to the 340cc mini. Obviously the Calloway will go a touch further as it is bigger. I actually own the BRNR mini in an 11.5. It’s an outright beast. I typically outdrive my buddies who have regular size drivers.
I just don’t get why they brought these clubs out, doesn’t seem like they’ll do well. Only difference seems to be getting it to 11.5 degrees but it’s so close to a 3 wood what’s the point in them?
I have an 11.5 brnr and part of me got it for nostalgia because i had an old burner driver back in the day but part of me got it because i was looking for help at the top of the bag. The 11.5 degree one is really a rocketship. I didnt even consider the 13.5 because i was really looking for a driver replacement. For whatever reason with my swing i square the club up a lot more with this and it still goes 265 or so. I haven't found success hitting it off the deck, but i love it as a tee club. Its let me go mini, 4 wood, 19° 3h, 4i at the top and im sure the more i play with it the better ill score.
It's fascinating and typical marketing nonsense. For many years (until the regulators applied a limit) we were told that bigger heads for your driver was the way to go. Now they will claim how much of a benefit their mini drivers will provide. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways!
A. How do you justify this as 1 of 14 B. You can get similar results with a 3 wood C. This is so clearly a way to sell us 2010 drivers for 2020 prices 😂 It’s a micro niche marketing experiment
Numbers are basically same, forgiveness the same.. only difference is taylormade is easier to hit off the deck but he still goes with Callaway 😂.. couldn’t show that he isn’t a TMade fan
Truly enjoyed this test. I struggle with consistency with a standard driver. I love my TM copper mini burner driver. Fairways Found!!! Keep up the great work. Cheers!
Been playing the Callaway for a few days, it’s been so fun to have the in bag! Shooting well with it also, the 13.5 fits perfectly between my 9 degree AI smoke Triple and my 16.5 degree AI smoke 3 wood HL!
Left and right spin, yes or no distance should all be robotic tested. Otherwise, you're seeing the differences of you hitting that club and not the club's performance by itself.
If the point of the mini driver is to give you accuracy off the tee AND get it off the ground then surely the Smokey isnt even in contention? It feels the smoke is designed for those who like the look of the smoke driver but cant hit it..........maybe just spend the money on some lessons.....
i have been playing the tm mini for about 2 years now and I am trading it in for the callaway . The sad thing is its not based solely on performance . I use my mini as a replacement for a 3 wood so I actually prefer the size and feel of the tm mini but I hate the how when going up in loft closes the face on the taylormade. I really like taylormade products but their loft sleeve is complete trash. The Callaway is more accurate and longer for me so Callaway it is .
I am a late bloomer to golf (58) and only started playing last year. So sorry if this is a silly question but, what is the advantage of a mini-driver over say your 3 wood? If so good, shouldn't everyone carry one then? Thanks and love the content Rick. 🤘😎
Burner seems a way better fit. Could replace the old bluey 3 wood. Callaway seems only good off the tee and harder to hit. You put too much emphasis on look.
I'm yet to really hear a good explanation of who these mini drivers are for. It seems like an incredibly niche market of people that can't hit driver but want something more than a 3 wood, or someone that needs to fill a gap between a 3 wood and a driver.
Taylormade all the way more versatile both for fairways and teeing up. Remember your looking for a fairway finder if you have trouble with driver there are options like loft and shaft length
Even though it is fun to see all these tests with clubs but never clubs for women are tested or shown. Maybe this could be added to make the picture complete!
Which one? I have 14 different models and they are fantastic putters. The Queen B #6 is my personal favourite and I have many Hive limited editions that I’ve payed thousands for. Queen B is part of their regular run and I think I payed 450 ish.
I too agree it depends upon what missions you have for the club. I have an old Bang Golf 14 degree 3W as my driver, with a 42" shaft. I can hit the darn thing pretty straight, not far, those days are history, but straightish, definitely in the short grass. I am more a plinker, course management player. Other people, they will have diverse needs. I'm a mid-handicap player. I carry 5W, 7W, 9W, 11W, 7i-PW, and 52, 56, 60, 68 wedges. Find what helps you, use it, and practice lag putting a lot to 2 or 3 feet. Everyone can cut their scores using what fits their game/swing, course management, and lag putting to makable range.
@@Johnnyhamcheck1 Yes, 31 degrees. Works like a champ. The ball gets high and pretty much stops or bounces a little. Those fairway woods are labeled Concord, a knock off component, but they work. I build my own clubs. Woods work well for me. I play with a guy that plays hybrids all the way down to pitching wedge. Old man golfers we are. Our little group still can post decent scores, just not a very exciting sight to see. Dink down the middle, chip on, one or two put, next hole. The longer par 5 holes, might take us 4 to get on, but the par 3 and 4 holes we can make up ground.
Would be very interested in some additional data on how much shorter these clubs are om average than Rick's normal 9 or 10.5 degree Driver distance. Also, what would his bag look like? Does he ditch the Driver? Or if he keeps the Driver and Mini what is the next club in his bag? An 18 degree 5W or maybe a 19 degree 3H or just his 3 iron?
Really enjoyed this video. I have the 2024 Mini Brnr. I have the weight set up to the back and have it set to 13.5 degrees. Off the tee it's fantastic. It's so much straighter than my TSR3 driver. I dont think ive hit my TSR more than 3 times since ive had the Mini. I hit it anywhere from 290-330 consistently. Its such a fantastic tool to have.
@@DannyHarris-o5g I would disagree. It’s consistently in the fairway yes. The type of hole I’m playing plays a huge part. Some roll more than others. Some are uphill, some are down. Nobody on earth it’s a drive the same distance every time.
I loved the previous version of the Taylormade mini but couldn't really use it well off the deck. Is the new version easier. Off the tee it looked as if you set up as if it was a standard driver. I was told to set up as if using a 3 wood and to also use a lower tee. Wrong?
I find that implementing all the same driver setups and principles (still hit up on it) is the way to go, you just have to tee it lower to match the ball height you want above the crown of the mini since it wont sit as high off the ground at address as a normal driver.
I just bought the new BRNR mini for £300 second hand. No loss of distance and so much more consistency. Dropped four shots off a round (average) so far. Replaced by driver and 3 wood so I now go; Mini Driver, 5 wood, 4 hybrid, 5-PW etc. Highly rate it
taylormade....i hit mine about 305 total.....off the deck about 265, but i don't swing as hard. I replaced my 3-wood and driver with it. Now i have room for 1 more club........ what shall it be........
I loved the TaylorMade BNR. I hit it within 10-15 yards of my driver, but with much more consistency. The problem was I kept reaching for it rather than my driver, which brought a degree of inconsistency overall into my driving. I only hit it an average distance, so 10-15 yards is important. I ended up selling it, so that I consistently reached for my driver "without thought". I actually liked it off the deck too and set it to 15 degrees at one point. Great club though...
I just ordered the Callaway last week. Supposed to be here tomorrow. They told me because I asked and they quoted the specs to me saying it would go up 2 degrees and down 2 degrees. So why does yours only go down one?? I did order the 11.5. 13.5 is way too much loft for me.
Hey Rick. A very valid comparison. But, I feel for a good player like you, who can also drive it well, the mini-drivers are always just going to be a club which you can hit well, goes shorter than the driver, and doesn't quite offer the versatility of a fairway wood. For the elite, like Tommy Fleetwood who carries a min-driver, they are so good that they can use it as a juiced 3-wood for par 5s, or tight tee shots. For me there is only one fundamental question that need answering for the average golfer who cannot keep the driver on the planet, and maybe only carries a 3/5 wood max is, is this going to offer 10-20 yards more than their 3/5 wood, with more accuracy than their efforts with driver. If so, then I absolutely see a place for these clubs for the masses. 10-20 yards, somewhat straight, can mean 1-2 clubs less on approach. I haven't really seen anyone do this type of comparison.
Rick should have used a mini driver for his open qualifier… instead of his 3 iron. He would have shaved a few shots.
I was thinking that when I was watching his round, this is why Rick people these in their bag so they can hit fairways
This is actually a pretty clear differentiation. If you're replacing your driver then the Callaway is the better club. If you're looking for more of a utility club at the top end of the bag then it's the Burner.
That is a great statement. That said, I don't think Rick would ever go with a mini driver as his longest club.
Agree 💯
But didn't the Brnr win as a driver at the end of the video?
Seems like the Callaway is a small driver and the TM is more of a juiced 3 wood.
@@lawbinson only for distance
Recently added the Burner 11.5* to the bag in place of my TSi-2 driver. About 10-15 yards less distance on well hit shots but I don't hit my driver that well to start. I hit twice as much fairways with the mini-driver and my scores have dropped. FWIW, I'm a bogey golfer.
I have basically the same experience. Although my Burner is a few years older, it`s replaced both my driver (Sim2) and 3-wood (TS2). I`m finding loads more fairways and because it`s easier to hit, having more fun playing golf. I`m a bogey player also.
That callaway mini driver is a absolute no brainer to put in your bag rick. Play a round with it in the bag. Do a break 75 with it.
Seems like Rick didn’t want to admit that the Taylormade is better than the Callaway. I hate Taylormade but it looked like Rick was swinging it better with the mini Burner.
Yet all the numbers outside of distance are in favor of the Callaway Mini driver what are you talking about????
The dispersion was way better in “power” mode while also being better in every way (including distance) in standard mode according to the numbers
Brnr is an absolute unicorn for me. Best club i’ve used in 30 yrs. Averaging 284 off tee which is only 5 yrds shorter than my driver but it’s insanely more accurate and forgiving. Easy to hit off fairway as well.
Same here. I was stuck on 8 handicap for ages. Added the mini burner to the bag, found way more fairways and am now 4.9. It's made such a difference.
what would you recommend, 13.5 or 11.5? I'm not great by any means, driver is ok consistency, 13 HC. I am not sure why you would pick one over the other.
@@noskillzleague i’m a lefty so mine only came in 11.5 which is what i have it set on. I can crank down or up 2 degrees but 11.5 has been ideal. If u want a driver replacement, go 11.5
I love the old school Taylor made mini driver, just smash mine, find the fairway so much more often😊
Is it me or is there a missed opportunity to show us something other than a 2019 driving range. I would think it would be pretty nice to use that 20k golf software and throw up a great 425 par 4 with a tighter fairway to show us the advantage/how straight a mini driver can be with an actual par 4? Love the channel and Rick and his team do an amazing job with the videos, just saying that could take it to another level.
The Burner was so much nicer shots. (One dodgy pull ruined the numbers). Making the fairway is key. I think its less flashy, but a better club for Rick
Marty Jertsen (PING VP of Fitting) talked about mini drivers on the PING Proving Grounds podcast a few times, and also in the WITB they posted on the PING YT channel. PING did some data analysis and found that players that drove the ball 300 yards or farther tended to use the 3-wood off the tee 90+ percent of the time. In this case, it makes a lot of sense to move to a mini, but also once you go mini driver and realize you're never hitting it off the deck, it makes sense to just carry a second driver like Finau did recently. Jertsen does the same - 12 degrees of loft and 2 or so inches shorter - so easy to hit. I started to do this and love the setup. Big driver goes 280, small driver goes 260.
Makes sense to me and I follow the same philosophy. I’m 305-310 with driver and never have a real need/use for a 3w. I’ve played a TM mini driver in the 3w spot for 4 years now and love it
I'm in the "2 driver camp" now for sure. G400 9.5 (45in playing length). TM Burner Mini 13.5 (down to 12). Best move I've made for my tee game in a while. Waaaaaay more fairways on tight holes with the Mini without a major distance penalty. Ditched the 3w.
I know immediately id choose TM. It is a beefed up 3 Wood and significant size change where the Callaway is just a toned down driver. So there is no significant change. I watched Rory's Video hitting the Burner and it was incredible to watch. Lazer straight over n over again. For the sake of boasting who is further i would take an all around better club and shot selection options so TM wins for me... I also feel Rick is an AB-TM - Anything But - Taylor Made.
I've had both and would definitely say the Callaway has the edge. It goes a little further, and is actually the more forgiving of the two. The only thing I could see the TM winning on is hitting off the fairway, but this is something I never did or will probably ever try. I have no bias and have had both these in the bag, hope it helps 👍
Burner!!
Love the mini driver reviews. My set up goes Driver (Callaway Rogue St Max set at 8 degrees, Taylormade Mini Driver set at 13 degrees and then 3 wood (Cobra Aerojet set at 16.5 degrees. I don’t hit far, driver 255, mini driver off the tee 240 off the deck 230, 3 wood 215.
Rick, I think a great future video would be, You vs. Guy. On a short course, or a course playing from the white tees, NO DRIVERS, Guy using TM mini, and Rick using Callaway mini! I would love to see that!!
I’d like to see a comparison on a delofted 3 wood vs the brnr.
I have a Titleist TSI2 3 wood turned up to 14 degrees. It goes much further than that brnr. I tasted it at PGA Tour Super store. Titleist equipment is just quietly better. Hence why the prices never drop on it.
That was a Battle Royale! It was interesting that the BRNR was the same on and off a tee. Even fairways don't hit like that. I had actually thought the Callaway would shine cranked down and weight front, but it just seemed to go too high to get to 300, the BRNR beat it, which was a surprise! I wish the stores near me had both to test and compare for my swing, as I just really struggle with driver.
No one is buying a mini-driver to hit off the deck, that's what 3 woods are for. These clubs should just be marketed as fairway finders.
I dropped both my driver and three wood for the BRNR.
I did the same. Was having driver issues, the burner is just amazing. And I can hit off the deck, thinking of getting a 5 wood now
You should do a new burner mini driver vs the old SLDR mini driver…. New vs old … different tech in the clubs
Love my Burner 11,5 (plays 12) replaced my Radspeed. I lost like 20 yards but I’m always in play. Also easy to hit off the deck on both fairway and in the ruff! Just love it!
I have only ever tried the burner and it is incredible !! i usually use it to replace my driver off the tee but it doesn't go as far as my driver because of lofts, and is sooo easy to hit of the floor as well. The best driver/3 wood combo club ever. Well done Taylormade
Thanks Rick! Been debating the mini drivers you just helped make up my mind on the Taylormade
If I were going to add a mini driver to my bag the then I’d go for the TaylorMade Burner 🔥
I think for sure you need to play a round with it and see if that give you more confidence than that 3 iron. I think this would carry over to the regular driver like just seeing more fairways hit
Great review, think it depends on the player and what they want the club to do. Taylormade gives options, Callaway a true driver replacement.
I haven't tried either and probably won't. I can't afford to give up 10-15 yards, and because I'm not a long hitter, my driver misses aren't too offline/punishing anyway. But if I was going to look at them, the Callaway is better looking but the TM seems to be more versatile. I’d go for the Burner. But then again, I've never gotten along very well with TM drivers or fairway metals. Maybe I'd go for the Callaway 😅
How about a review of the latest TM Mini Burner compared to the actual original one (which I think came with a Bubble Shaft)? Would be very interested to see the difference in performance.
I sell clubs....Callaway is running hot right now with this new AI mini and the TD Max. Off the deck you'll still need a traditional 3 or 4 wood.
please review the takomo irons!
Not too far off the normal driver but straighter. Would like to see you do video with your current driver at ten and a half and eleven and half degrees and see if the dispersion is better without sacrificing too much distance.
Mini Burner all day long more versatile proving more useful in the bag, love the retro looks 👌🏻 I think the AI smoke size is probably too big to be a 3 wood replacement if you still plan to carry a driver, The TM would easily sit next a driver in the bag for fairway finding and long par 5's
Please try some performance shafts. Throw the CQ or VR in both then go head to head or old faithful “orange one”. I don’t know which would suit your swing best but I’d guess CQ or DI
I was ready to buy the Taylor Made but unfortunately, none now available. I've decided to put my 4 wood shaft in the TSi1 driver head and see what the results are. Waiting for the shaft adapter to arrive and remember to correct the swing weight as it will likely be much lower with the shorter shaft. Fingers crossed I get some good results🤞
I play the Taylormade mini Driver and if you really wanna optimize that club use a counter balanced shaft and it changes everything, I am club fitter and I ran myself through a fitting with Ventus TR blue and Tensei pro orange and the pro orange being counter balanced offered more consistent spin rates on all hits across the face too. Ventus was everywhere and I play TR blue in every wood but the mini driver
I hope more mini-drivers are on the way from other brands, and that they will NOT be limited volume editions like the two tested here which makes it difficult to get one even if you want it.
I would like to see you play a few rounds with a normal driver and a few rounds with a mini driver and compare your driving stats--fairways hit, strokes gained, distance etc.
I love the look of the TaylorMade. Would love to replace my 3 wood with it
Rick - the color of the TM is "Copper." As in a penny made of Copper.
Rick - I loved the TM. I would love to see you do a similar comparison between the TM and a three wood.
I have them both ( each 11.5 ) and the Taylor made wins it for me, way easier off the deck and great off the tee but if you are buying one of these to replace a driver because you struggle off the tee then the Callaway might be the better choice for you with the larger head and I too find it to play the left side more.
I think for golf in windy conditions, these are better options than long irons off the tee.
Weight forward, hit it like a fairway wood but teed up a centimeter and it's just so good.
If they called these 2 woods no one would buy one, call it a mini driver and say it's limited edition charge 4x the price and people are eating it up.
I just picked up a new Burner Mini-driver (3 plus+) 11.5/stiff and played 3 rounds this past weekend. I rolled off one fairway otherwise hit the rest after 2 range sessions hitting 10 drives or so before heading out to the course. Is it long? No. I was a consistent 225-230 off the box, couldn't replicate the 270s I'm seeing video's like Rick's have. Which is basically a swing speed thing I'm sure. Needless to say, having the confidence to be in the fairway and calmness in a swing is a relief. I'm wondering if the Qi10 would add 20 more yards than the burner mini with the same swing speed? Fairways and Greens boys, fairways and greens.
Doesnt lowering the loft open up the club face?
correct. I have my Callaway mini lofted down and opened up to 12.5 with the heavy weight forward. I definitely get a pretty consistent little left to right shot with it. dont notice any drop off in forgiveness compared to the heavy weight being in the back.
I'm truly old school I like an idea Sam Sneed had in his book on the game. A 1.5 wood or a two wood on a driver shaft can still use as a driver or hit it off the deck.
Honestly, as much fun as the video was, it isn’t a fair test regardless.
The BRNR is only 304cc while the Calloway is 340…big difference. It’s like saying you’re comparing a standard driver to the 340cc mini.
Obviously the Calloway will go a touch further as it is bigger.
I actually own the BRNR mini in an 11.5. It’s an outright beast. I typically outdrive my buddies who have regular size drivers.
You need to turn the taylormade head cover inside out, it would make it worth so much more 👍
I just don’t get why they brought these clubs out, doesn’t seem like they’ll do well. Only difference seems to be getting it to 11.5 degrees but it’s so close to a 3 wood what’s the point in them?
I have an 11.5 brnr and part of me got it for nostalgia because i had an old burner driver back in the day but part of me got it because i was looking for help at the top of the bag. The 11.5 degree one is really a rocketship. I didnt even consider the 13.5 because i was really looking for a driver replacement. For whatever reason with my swing i square the club up a lot more with this and it still goes 265 or so. I haven't found success hitting it off the deck, but i love it as a tee club. Its let me go mini, 4 wood, 19° 3h, 4i at the top and im sure the more i play with it the better ill score.
It's fascinating and typical marketing nonsense. For many years (until the regulators applied a limit) we were told that bigger heads for your driver was the way to go. Now they will claim how much of a benefit their mini drivers will provide. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways!
Bigger don’t add distance. The Calloway was shorter, obviously 10 yards shorter.3 woods will go 280,
A. How do you justify this as 1 of 14
B. You can get similar results with a 3 wood
C. This is so clearly a way to sell us 2010 drivers for 2020 prices 😂
It’s a micro niche marketing experiment
Numbers are basically same, forgiveness the same.. only difference is taylormade is easier to hit off the deck but he still goes with Callaway 😂.. couldn’t show that he isn’t a TMade fan
Callaway looks way better. Don’t like the copper look on the TaylorMade. Hoping PXG or Titleist bring there’s out soon
Truly enjoyed this test. I struggle with consistency with a standard driver. I love my TM copper mini burner driver.
Fairways Found!!!
Keep up the great work. Cheers!
Been playing the Callaway for a few days, it’s been so fun to have the in bag! Shooting well with it also, the 13.5 fits perfectly between my 9 degree AI smoke Triple and my 16.5 degree AI smoke 3 wood HL!
Left and right spin, yes or no distance should all be robotic tested. Otherwise, you're seeing the differences of you hitting that club and not the club's performance by itself.
If the point of the mini driver is to give you accuracy off the tee AND get it off the ground then surely the Smokey isnt even in contention? It feels the smoke is designed for those who like the look of the smoke driver but cant hit it..........maybe just spend the money on some lessons.....
Taylormade Sim 2 Max 3 wood does the same thing and goes the same distance. 3 Wood off the deck on a par 5.... Winner!!
i have been playing the tm mini for about 2 years now and I am trading it in for the callaway . The sad thing is its not based solely on performance . I use my mini as a replacement for a 3 wood so I actually prefer the size and feel of the tm mini but I hate the how when going up in loft closes the face on the taylormade. I really like taylormade products but their loft sleeve is complete trash. The Callaway is more accurate and longer for me so Callaway it is .
Just picked up the taylormade. Been great so far
I am a late bloomer to golf (58) and only started playing last year. So sorry if this is a silly question but, what is the advantage of a mini-driver over say your 3 wood? If so good, shouldn't everyone carry one then? Thanks and love the content Rick. 🤘😎
Its basically a 2 wood.
Burner seems a way better fit. Could replace the old bluey 3 wood. Callaway seems only good off the tee and harder to hit. You put too much emphasis on look.
I'm yet to really hear a good explanation of who these mini drivers are for. It seems like an incredibly niche market of people that can't hit driver but want something more than a 3 wood, or someone that needs to fill a gap between a 3 wood and a driver.
Taylormade all the way more versatile both for fairways and teeing up. Remember your looking for a fairway finder if you have trouble with driver there are options like loft and shaft length
I really hate these gimmicks. They’re just over sized 3 woods! 🤷🏻♂️
Couldn't you put the mini driver shaft in the Driver that's in your bag and see similar accuracy?
It looks like the best way to reduce driver distance is to reduce the head sizes! Forget about changing the golf ball!
Even though it is fun to see all these tests with clubs but never clubs for women are tested or shown. Maybe this could be added to make the picture complete!
So someone made an actual mini driver and the other made a fat 3 wood.
Lol
"Callaway looks more modern" well yeah, the point of the burner was to look like the original.
Rick you need to review the Callaway Paradym super hybrid!
TaylorMade give me a better discount than Callaway, so id take the burner
The backing music gets waaay too loud compared to the rest of the video 🫨
Just shorten the shaft on a regular forgiving driver. You’re welcome
Anyone else finding the overlayed music very annoying and off putting?
Just saved me some $$😂
Those numbers are shy of my Cobra F9 3 wood at the same loft
I love Rick, but he’s not capable of a blind club test bc his eyes make all the decisions 😂
Have you compared the new mini's against the old mini's
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So the TM is really a bigger 3 wood and Callaway is a smaller driver
Can you review a Bettinardi putter?
Which one? I have 14 different models and they are fantastic putters. The Queen B #6 is my personal favourite and I have many Hive limited editions that I’ve payed thousands for. Queen B is part of their regular run and I think I payed 450 ish.
@@Joker-yh2xg I want to see one of the BB series putters vs a Scotty Cameron
now get ridd of that cobra and go with Callaway mini or sim2 max-
Rick put the burner in the bag watch your scores tumble
It doesn't make sense to use a mini driver unless it's more forgiving
Callaway did a great job this thme
am i missing something.. isnt this just a glorified 3w
I too agree it depends upon what missions you have for the club. I have an old Bang Golf 14 degree 3W as my driver, with a 42" shaft. I can hit the darn thing pretty straight, not far, those days are history, but straightish, definitely in the short grass. I am more a plinker, course management player. Other people, they will have diverse needs. I'm a mid-handicap player. I carry 5W, 7W, 9W, 11W, 7i-PW, and 52, 56, 60, 68 wedges. Find what helps you, use it, and practice lag putting a lot to 2 or 3 feet. Everyone can cut their scores using what fits their game/swing, course management, and lag putting to makable range.
U have an 11w?
@@Johnnyhamcheck1 Yes, 31 degrees. Works like a champ. The ball gets high and pretty much stops or bounces a little. Those fairway woods are labeled Concord, a knock off component, but they work. I build my own clubs. Woods work well for me. I play with a guy that plays hybrids all the way down to pitching wedge. Old man golfers we are. Our little group still can post decent scores, just not a very exciting sight to see. Dink down the middle, chip on, one or two put, next hole. The longer par 5 holes, might take us 4 to get on, but the par 3 and 4 holes we can make up ground.
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Would be very interested in some additional data on how much shorter these clubs are om average than Rick's normal 9 or 10.5 degree Driver distance. Also, what would his bag look like? Does he ditch the Driver? Or if he keeps the Driver and Mini what is the next club in his bag? An 18 degree 5W or maybe a 19 degree 3H or just his 3 iron?
Really enjoyed this video. I have the 2024 Mini Brnr. I have the weight set up to the back and have it set to 13.5 degrees. Off the tee it's fantastic. It's so much straighter than my TSR3 driver. I dont think ive hit my TSR more than 3 times since ive had the Mini. I hit it anywhere from 290-330 consistently. Its such a fantastic tool to have.
Is you consistently the fairway??? Cause a 40 yard , 290/330 is 40 yards difference, 40 yard difference is no consistent.
@@DannyHarris-o5g I would disagree. It’s consistently in the fairway yes. The type of hole I’m playing plays a huge part. Some roll more than others. Some are uphill, some are down. Nobody on earth it’s a drive the same distance every time.
I loved the previous version of the Taylormade mini but couldn't really use it well off the deck. Is the new version easier. Off the tee it looked as if you set up as if it was a standard driver. I was told to set up as if using a 3 wood and to also use a lower tee. Wrong?
I find that implementing all the same driver setups and principles (still hit up on it) is the way to go, you just have to tee it lower to match the ball height you want above the crown of the mini since it wont sit as high off the ground at address as a normal driver.
I just bought the new BRNR mini for £300 second hand. No loss of distance and so much more consistency. Dropped four shots off a round (average) so far. Replaced by driver and 3 wood so I now go; Mini Driver, 5 wood, 4 hybrid, 5-PW etc. Highly rate it
Can Shiels not get his hands on the TSR 2W?
taylormade....i hit mine about 305 total.....off the deck about 265, but i don't swing as hard. I replaced my 3-wood and driver with it. Now i have room for 1 more club........ what shall it be........
I loved the TaylorMade BNR. I hit it within 10-15 yards of my driver, but with much more consistency. The problem was I kept reaching for it rather than my driver, which brought a degree of inconsistency overall into my driving. I only hit it an average distance, so 10-15 yards is important. I ended up selling it, so that I consistently reached for my driver "without thought". I actually liked it off the deck too and set it to 15 degrees at one point. Great club though...
I just ordered the Callaway last week. Supposed to be here tomorrow. They told me because I asked and they quoted the specs to me saying it would go up 2 degrees and down 2 degrees. So why does yours only go down one?? I did order the 11.5. 13.5 is way too much loft for me.
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Hey Rick. A very valid comparison. But, I feel for a good player like you, who can also drive it well, the mini-drivers are always just going to be a club which you can hit well, goes shorter than the driver, and doesn't quite offer the versatility of a fairway wood.
For the elite, like Tommy Fleetwood who carries a min-driver, they are so good that they can use it as a juiced 3-wood for par 5s, or tight tee shots.
For me there is only one fundamental question that need answering for the average golfer who cannot keep the driver on the planet, and maybe only carries a 3/5 wood max is, is this going to offer 10-20 yards more than their 3/5 wood, with more accuracy than their efforts with driver. If so, then I absolutely see a place for these clubs for the masses. 10-20 yards, somewhat straight, can mean 1-2 clubs less on approach. I haven't really seen anyone do this type of comparison.
That callaway in 11.5 needs to go in your bag, rick. Pretty much every fairway and 280 you would be scoring better.