Glad to see you found the same comparability issue between the rx and fatshark tx. I used one for some 'passenger' goggles and found much poorer range than my immersion rx, but thought it might just have been a bad rx so banggood replaced it which of course made no difference. It will be interesting to see how the camera/tx combo work in action.
atschris In action they work great for local field flying and getting into FPV. You get a huge 'bang for your buck' using this system and once people start to get into it then investments in more expensive kit makes sense. Saying that - still love the Quanum goggles - don't care if I look like Bender!
Just in the process of ordering bits and bobs to build my first ever quad, a wee 250 so this is prefect to keep the price down plus so easy to understand for a newbie like me. Can't wait to try this out!
echopark25 There is a link to a lovely 250 quad kit with all the components you need - ruclips.net/video/oQeNV-Wr8RE/видео.html. Just add a few more batteries, charger and a radio/receiver.. Happy building!
This video has really helped me out and have taken my fatshark off of the shelf..it's been there for a long time all because I didn't realize that I was not matching male with female anteanas..didn't realize I had all female anteanas!!!.like wow thanks a lot..back to the crawler
After getting a broken transmitter from bevrc I got this to start fpving. I got the 305 receiver and they are a perfect setup for my bixler. I use the quantum DIY fpv goggles and can see everything fine to around 2km
I couldn't agree more. For the price, this little FPV setup is great! I use it on my 230 quad. And I am going to order another. To replace my Fatshark system, on my hexicopter.
im using Eachine fpv kits, a 200mw and a 600mw, they are sound, even when using the standard antenna, they handle low light really well, the only problem I found was when its getting dark and theres still a bit of light left in the sky the camera struggles to see the ground until you are in the shadows, other than that, its a perfect kit and the price is a bonus
for the start this seams about right for me ... but for now ... no goggles ... how to plug the receiver on a laptop ... ? thanks amazing vid as always , you have been helping a lot , thanks
I cannot wear fat shark due to glasses. I did get some nice goggles on sale,actually referbs at a dirt cheap price. I got the echine tx02 camara and also a seperate transmitter and receiver. I wanted it to run my run cam from. I wish Banggood would send me free stuff to test but thats ok,I just watch guys like you and figure out what it is I want. Good video.
Great review😃 I have the same Eachine camera/vTX combo from the UK Bangood warehouse and found it to be an excellent all in solution, especially for the price. Regards Nidge
One thing I really hate about FatSharks is that they have horrid chromatic aberrations at the edge of the FOV. These guys don't have any grasp of good quality optics. Boscam goggles are somewhat better in this regard, but there is still room for improvement in them also. You would think that for the price that these goggles cost, they could provide some decent achromatic lenses.
+K Danagger The Dom V3 I am using are great. The first ever set I got (going back a few years here) were the Predator 2 and the lenses were 'ok' but had chromic blurring at the edges. The latest generations is a huge leap. Happy flying!
The Presteign You add an OSD to this in *exactly* the same was as any other system - search on my channel for 'MinimOSD' to see *loads* of videos that cover this. Latency is very low (
The Channel Formerly Known as Epik Beats Thanks for that - I did know that but most people get very confused and I've seen vendors also use the wrong names for the connectors to so showing the pin/lack of pin is a very 'safe'' way of letting subscribers know what they are getting/need. Happy flying!
Nice review. The camera is CMOS and I think the CCD cameras, also inexpensive at about $17 from Banggood, are less prone to jello effects because of rolling shutter in CMOS devices. Thanks for exploring the more affordable options.
Painless360 I don't have this camera, but this looks like a possibility: goo.gl/mNXCsu After your video I ordered this which seems to be the same camera as the link here along with the transmitter you had: goo.gl/F5AZwc
Mario der Goombaplätter True, always make sure you comply with local regulations. See this covered in my video series 'Introduction to FPV'. Happy flying!
I built an FPV system like that with similar parts I got on Ebay. I probably should have ordered from Banggood though because the first seller I ordered from seemed to go out of business and was delisted from Ebay so I never got anything and had to order everything all over again from a different seller. I was going to use it on a quadcopter that I intended to build using a Pixhawk PX4 but since that's impossible to ever get working I'll probably use the FPV system to get video from a remote security camera instead.
+Painless360 Yes I bought a KK2.1 that should be an upgrade from the worthless Pixhawk. Not as many features but at least they can be made to fly and you don't need any crappy shareware to run it.
I found the 148 degree camera a bit too wide angle for me. They also sell the same setup but with a 110 degree camera which I find a lot easier to fly with.
Stuart Bailey Yeah, I normally fly with 110-120 degree systems myself but don't find the 148 degree tricky to use. I have used wider too and, for me, the detail in the centre of the screen became just too small. Happy flying!
Thanks so much for the clear explanation of this FPV system. I am totally new to RC and quadcopters so I have just now ordered the kit above and the Emax frame combo kit you also reviewed, so excited. Can you recommend an entry budget level radio and quadcopter battery as well as the battery for the receiver/quanum goggles. Thanks so much I'll keep watching.
***** Hi Rob, there are a few videos on the channel about learning to fly and flying FPV. This playlist may be of use - ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4rQfddw-7YZDzckoJ_KyOpm Radios are an investment for the hobby and something that can stay with you for many years. I still use my first 'proper' radio a DX7 and have had it for almost 8 years now. I would look at what your friends use and consider radios like the Turnigy 9XR. The battery to power the goggles doesn't need to be huge. I little 3s 500mah pack will run if for hours. Best of luck with the FPV, it can take time to get to grips with it..
I can watch your videos for days!!! There is so much good information. Thanks for all the great instruction! Subd! I have a quick question. I saw a 600mw version of the tx kit from eachine on banggood. Would that be a better choice? Or does that not make too big a difference? Sorry if I missed that in one of your other videos. Oh yeah it will be used for racing and freestyle type flying. Thanks for any advice!
The more power equalls more range. A lot of countries only allow a certain maximum power for FPV transmitters so be aware of that when you order one. Best of luck!
Brilliant series of vids, can't thank you enough for all the useful info. Can I ask if the low cost fpv gear from banggood can be used with a Möbius to display on a ground station? Thanks again.
Is the RP-SMA adapter you quote in the mentioned products link above the correct one? or do I have to select which 'ends' I need when ordering. You guessed it.. I'm new to this FPV lark but I do intend to follow your advice on the strength of your videos here. Superb work! I hoping your setup here will be suitable for fixed wing out to 1500m?
+Leffelito Yep - he crops up all over the place on the channel. He's been away for months but is now back home again now. Something about filming a movie in London with some old friends? Not sure what he's banging on about but he's been very excited.. :S
Konstantin Mishenkov Not planning to - I've never had any of the problems with interference here using industry standard kit and common sense..Maybe I've been very lucky..
Startersets are very good. Do you know if there is a WDR (wide dynamic range) system in camera? This makes the image not better but the contrast is much better. Maybe an idea for another Video. Have great weekend and thanks for so many informations.
Peter Neumann This is a camera and transmitter for less than £18 - what so you think? ;) Saying that, the image is excellent but if you want to spend a lot more there are other options for a camera you could connect.
Hi, I really enjoyed your Video. I'm just a beginner . I don't seem to see much mention of good starter batteries ... would you point me in the right direction for batteries to suit the gear recommended in this video ? ( Cheers )
+Spyk There is a couple of series that I'd suggest you watch to help with your knowledge - the 'Introduction to RC' playlist and the 'Introduction to FPV' playlist. They should help. Let me know if there is still a question after you've been through them...
Excellent video! I have a question that isn't RC related, but still is on the subject of wireless cameras. I picked up a security camera and would like to use it wirelessly over an IP so I can view it on my laptop. I know there are systems that can be purchase, but this is a high quality camera that I have next to nothing invested in. I'm hoping I just need a transmitter, but I'm not sure which transmitter would be suitable. If you could point me in the right direction, that would be greatly appreciated :)
+4DIYers sorry, Im not sure. I would normally use some kind of FPV system but Wi-Fi connectivity isn't something we tend to get involved in a lot here for remote control. Best of luck with it.
Great review, really nice to know about this. I think compatibility is a great issue with FPV... and talking of compatibility, do you have any idea if this receiver work with the Walkera iLook camera? Thanks
Hiya Painless,can you show a vid on how to wire the Hobbyking G-OSD 3 Mini OSD System to this FPV system,I have tried numerous times but with no success as the wiring colours are different.
Vitaliy D Not sure what you are referring to, if you mean the distortion when using a FatShark Tx then not it will not. There are loads of 'Introduction to FPV' videos that explain it. Happy flying!
I have purchased the"Budget FPV kit" and it works great, I says on the instructions that the tx supplies 5v to the camera, would it be OK to connect it to a Möbius then (providing I don't make a Horlicks of the connection), anybody any advice on this?
+FPViking You're asking if a £20 or £set of goggles compete with a £280 set? It's very much personal choice. See our review videos of them all for more detail..
Hi mate, a big fan of your channel here, you helped me to get my tri-copter with multiwii and now I have build several quads with naze32 with your help. Now getting into FPV, and I'm fighting with a Eachine camera to make it work with the minimOSD, so far no success. I see you have used that camera in this video, I have almost the same system (Eachine 600 with 800TVL camera), can you point me to the configuration I need in the minim osd arduino code to make them work together? (Eachine camera with the minimOSD).Thanks!
Hi mate, you have helped me loads with this hobby!! Keep up the great work, appreciate it! I went down the Fatshark Predator route and thought they were ok'ish for my first FPV experience, I enjoyed it, but not what I hoped. Then I got the cheap HK Quanum as I thought bang for buck, they must be good..again, they were OK...too many wires!. Now I bit the bullet and went for the FatShark Attitudes V2 and even though only have 10 degree more FOV (its actually 40% more over the preds!!), I should have gone for them first time, this is FPV, they are a must, perfect kit!!! Anyway, long story short, compared to the fatshark cam and tx that comes with the goggles, how does this cam and TX compare in view quality? It looks and sounds too good to be true....for £20 are they that good??
PAUL DONOHOE The camera is ok, the transmitter is good. If you want FatShark quality buy FatShark ;)A number of people use the transmitter with a 5v FatShark camera (including me - you can see it on the Tri-copter videos)I would give these a try though on a model that you expect to crash. Happy flying!
Thanks for the great video. I'm trying to order the parts and see that there are now right angled antennas available from the link you included. However, I am getting a bit confused between the various SMA connector types (male, female, SMA, RP-SMA), so please can you clarify which antennas and connectors should be ordered? Thanks,
Thank you for a very informative video Painless, as this video is about 12 months old, are there better items to use these days? Im just getting into FPV so trying to get the best bang for my buck! TIA
Good video,,, thanks Excuse me, I would even be a question. How you can use the on-screen joysticks? You transformed the cable? or always brought out the video signal cable and power. Plugging the OSD cable and configure it? Oh, and how many volts using the camera hs1177
+InfiKnight some of the smaller video transmitters do get quite hot so it's important not to have them sat around too long and get them in the Air flying where they can be cooled by the passing breeze. It shouldn't get too hot though, if it's getting so hot that it starts to have a problem with the video then let the reseller now
Bishop Vick With the right antennas you can get 1.5km+ ranges with a 25mw Tx. See the videos on antenna choices for the ground station in my 'Introduction to FPV' series.. Hope it helps.
+betactical Range is tricky to answer as it depends on the antennas used, local conditions, power of the Tx, sensitivity of the receiver, position of the craft etc. With decent antenna this will easily get you past 400ft and well beyond with the right kit.
Great video.I realize this is a little old now but Banggood have discontinued this receiver (RC58-32CH) - would you happen to have a recommended alternative please?
Id look at the excellent HobbyKing receivers we've looked at on the channel - they are also covered in the HobbyKing ground station video too. Best of luck!
I'm not sure if there's a problem here with My Transmitter, I've ordered 2 of these, the 600 mW version and the 200 mW version, I've recieved the 200 mW version already and during the bench testing everything seems to work perfectly, great video and good reception, everything.. My main issue is that the Transmitter gets extremely hot, almost to the point that you can't touch it, that's a bit worrysome. Is there a problem, or is that normal, should I maybe fabricate some heat sinks? And that's just the 200 mW, the 600 mW is I'm sure gonna be even worse.. :(
+Painless360 Thanks very much for the reply, I just happen to have a Boscam 250 mW that never really worked right, why I bought these, such good reviews, I'll definately try to patch the heatsink from it to this new Transmitter.. Great Video, thanks so much for the Education, I'd never be able to do this without Your help.. ;)
I'm going to order everything listed above. I have a question about the antennas on Banggoods site they have 4 different types which is the correct one to get? L Type RP-SMA Male L Type SMA Male W Type RP-SMA Male W Type SMA Male
Hi again, I'm reading up about fpv and to me it seems the 2.3 ghz and 1.3 ghz frequencies better for penetration and signal but I can't seemed to find any equipment for them within the U.K. Law. Any ideas on what I can get for long range fpv without breaking the bank?
1.3 is not available for airnourne transmittion here in the UK. Check out sites like the www.fpvuk.org/fpv-law/ to see what's legal. If you use 100mw 2.4Ghz for the radio and 25mW 5.8Ghz for the FPV you're good. Other bands area available for specific things too..
Hi im new to fpv n I want to put together something like this but using my Teleporter V4. which I currently have from my RC RTF VAPOR combo. would u post direct link to the vtx n how to link it to my fatshark leleporter v4? thanx
Hi painless does this RX run on 2s ? Also with the quanum goggles, Ive noticed ready made rc sell a 5inch dvr with built in RX and battery that has a higher resolution screen. I was just wondering if that would be an option to put that dvr in the qaunum head piece. It would be all in one
is your camera actually 148deg fov, I bought 2 of the 200mw combo and a spare camera all advertised as 148deg fov, I can tell and show (video a/b comparison filmed from a 7" screen with edges of fov marked for both) that the 3 that I recieived (2 in combo with 200mw 32ch tx 1 seperate seperate for quanam goggle mount cam) are nowhere near 148deg, they are substantially narrower view than a 131-132 deg fov mobius c lens camera, all labeled with little silver sticker as 148deg, all appear to be 110deg.
I have a couple questions regarding FPV: 1) You are using a 148 degree camera in this video. Do you find 148 to be the best choice for FPV? They also offer a 110 degree version. I think something narrower would be better. What are your feelings on the 110 version? 2) I'm from the US. So, what are the regulations for FPV use and power levels? I'm guessing this isn't an easy question but I'd like to get your take on this since I'm sure you are in contact with many US FPVers.
+Christopher Lyons I find the best views are 120-130 degree, any more feels like I loose too much detail in the centre of the image. Some fly up to 147 degree but that's the limit for me. I'd check with the local FPV resellers and check in the forums. I'd suspect that it's 25mw but every location seems to have a different law! Happy flying!
Hello. I love your videos. But i think i made a mistake i cant check by now. Everyone says dont power up VTX withoit antenna. Whell i did and it was on about 30sec on 25mW. So how long does it take to burn it? I would like to test it, but i destroyed my VRX so cant recive video. I wonder if it can be burned, so i order new VTX now cos i would not like to wait 2 weeks for VRX to come and another 4weeks for the new VTX to come. I use TX001 Eachine VTX.
On lots of the cheaper transmitters it's usually very quick, a couple of seconds is all it takes to cause damage. On more expensive transmitters like things from TBS, they're designed to withstand transmission without the antenna attached for quite a long time. That's done so if you crash in the antenna snapped off then it doesn't fry your electronics. The only way you'll find out for sure, is to test it properly. Best of luck....
Crap... I tried it if it was hot, but was not. Now i dont know anyone to have vRX to test it. Is there any way to test it with multimeter? Like some setting that would tell me if it transmits the signal? Any responce would be good. I would meshure it on the board with antenna on. I dont have equipement for meshuring signal strenght like few people have as i saw in the videos. Thanx for your reply. Greentings from Slovenia ;)
Just one more question. Does it help if vTX vas set to 25mW and vTX has original soldered on 4cm pigtail with antenna mount or you thiink it is definetly burned? vTX is Aomway TX001
Whell the vTX is still alive. It did not got burned. Mavy helped that it was set on 25mW and it had original attached pigtail, so it took those 30sec without antenna It still works :)
Nice review and a neat little package for the money. Can I just get the transmitter on its own? I've managed to smash the SMA connector off my 250mw Fatshark transmitter and after soldering back together, it's doesn't appear to be performing as well. Also, is the connector which goes into the camera the same as the Fatshark cameras connector? I have the 600TVL CMOS Fatshark camera which is good enough for me.
I don't fly too low personally. there is a rule of thumb that your height should be 10% of the distance away from yourself to maintain a good connection. I have had the craft low about 240meters out and now had an issue though.. Hope this helps.
Good to know, thanks for the info. I found that I was having signal drop outs when I was a couple of hundred yards away when I was maybe only fifteen feet off the deck with my current setup. Signal is much better when I'm higher up
Love your videos, I'm learning a lot! A question concerning the power necessities of the video receiver. It states 12V DC in but you're using a 3S (11.1v) supply... Any idea what this receiver regulates it to internally? I'm wondering if a 2S might be sufficient.. Actually same question about the transmitter. The 3S connector is supplied, but do you think this set might run off a 2S supply? For me my question is two-fold. First the literal question: can I use 2S? Well, I might just try and find out :) But also more general: is there such thing in the RC/FPV world as a common voltage that most electronics tend to operate on?
+lebasson Great question. Most transmitters are designed to work with 2-3s packs (check the specs for the one you are using), a 3s pack can be anything from 12.6v down to 10.5v (!) in use. There is normally a voltage regulator on them that is reducing the voltage to 5v anyway. Most things run on 5v and we use BECs to reduce the main battery voltage to that more useful voltage for all the electronics. Hope that helps..
+Painless360 That certainly does, thanks! Just ordered some BECs for future use. Handy for LED strips I imagine. Both the sender and receiver you used in this video work just fine on 2S btw. Happy!
Hey Painless.I went on your advice and bought this system and boy was I pleased with the outcome,thanks. Just a quick few questions,can you put a link up for the RCA jack. Did you notice that the transmitter was getting pretty hot? I'm using a Turnigy 11.1V 3s 1000Milli battery for my Goggles and same for receiver and one for the Quantum goggles,did you notice or is it just mine? Thanks J
Why is no one talking about BETTER cameras i.e. LENSES??? I would think that would be something you wouldn't skimp on if you're interested in Aerial Cinematography / Photography???
+Jay.C.Fotografie Absolutley - the lens obviously make a lot of difference to the image, but in practice the low res displays used for FPV make little practical difference to the image you see UNLESS you are talking about reduced lens flare and other features of improved lenses. See the Mobius and 808#16 videos to see the different lenses and read up on the FatShark FPV tuned cameras to see more.
Glad to see you found the same comparability issue between the rx and fatshark tx. I used one for some 'passenger' goggles and found much poorer range than my immersion rx, but thought it might just have been a bad rx so banggood replaced it which of course made no difference.
It will be interesting to see how the camera/tx combo work in action.
atschris In action they work great for local field flying and getting into FPV. You get a huge 'bang for your buck' using this system and once people start to get into it then investments in more expensive kit makes sense.
Saying that - still love the Quanum goggles - don't care if I look like Bender!
Just in the process of ordering bits and bobs to build my first ever quad, a wee 250 so this is prefect to keep the price down plus so easy to understand for a newbie like me. Can't wait to try this out!
echopark25 There is a link to a lovely 250 quad kit with all the components you need - ruclips.net/video/oQeNV-Wr8RE/видео.html. Just add a few more batteries, charger and a radio/receiver..
Happy building!
This video has really helped me out and have taken my fatshark off of the shelf..it's been there for a long time all because I didn't realize that I was not matching male with female anteanas..didn't realize I had all female anteanas!!!.like wow thanks a lot..back to the crawler
After getting a broken transmitter from bevrc I got this to start fpving.
I got the 305 receiver and they are a perfect setup for my bixler.
I use the quantum DIY fpv goggles and can see everything fine to around 2km
I couldn't agree more. For the price, this little FPV setup is great! I use it on my 230 quad. And I am going to order another. To replace my Fatshark system, on my hexicopter.
Excellent presentation.....clear and concise. Thanks for posting this video :)
Thank you. This has answered pretty much all the mind bending questions that have been bugging me.
Another great video just needed a RCA coupler joiner adapter for connecting the two females. Thought I was missing a lead at 10.34
im using Eachine fpv kits, a 200mw and a 600mw, they are sound, even when using the standard antenna, they handle low light really well, the only problem I found was when its getting dark and theres still a bit of light left in the sky the camera struggles to see the ground until you are in the shadows, other than that, its a perfect kit and the price is a bonus
Great video mate you should be a t.v. presenter, very clear and well described.
Thanks for all the info. Very helpful for a beginner like me. You make it very easy to understand. Happy flying
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for the start this seams about right for me ... but for now ... no goggles ... how to plug the receiver on a laptop ... ? thanks amazing vid as always , you have been helping a lot , thanks
+Miguel Pires see our later videos in the 'Introduction to FPV' series..
I cannot wear fat shark due to glasses. I did get some nice goggles on sale,actually referbs at a dirt cheap price. I got the echine tx02 camara and also a seperate transmitter and receiver. I wanted it to run my run cam from. I wish Banggood would send me free stuff to test but thats ok,I just watch guys like you and figure out what it is I want. Good video.
Great review😃
I have the same Eachine camera/vTX combo from the UK Bangood warehouse and found it to be an excellent all in solution, especially for the price.
Regards
Nidge
Hey mate, thanks for making really clear and concise videos! Subscribed.
+Jason Thank you. Welcome to the channel!
this video is great thankyou...iwas looking on how to get my clover leaf antenna to work on my ts832
6:00 chewbaca is that you
u mean c3p0 lmao ur so dumb
One thing I really hate about FatSharks is that they have horrid chromatic aberrations at the edge of the FOV. These guys don't have any grasp of good quality optics. Boscam goggles are somewhat better in this regard, but there is still room for improvement in them also. You would think that for the price that these goggles cost, they could provide some decent achromatic lenses.
+K Danagger The Dom V3 I am using are great. The first ever set I got (going back a few years here) were the Predator 2 and the lenses were 'ok' but had chromic blurring at the edges. The latest generations is a huge leap. Happy flying!
Great review! If we could see how to add an OSD to it and what the latency of this equipment is, that would be fantastic!
The Presteign You add an OSD to this in *exactly* the same was as any other system - search on my channel for 'MinimOSD' to see *loads* of videos that cover this.
Latency is very low (
Nice video - FYI the different connextors are called small and rpsma if u didn't k ow already. Love your videoa, especially your APM series. :)
The Channel Formerly Known as Epik Beats Thanks for that - I did know that but most people get very confused and I've seen vendors also use the wrong names for the connectors to so showing the pin/lack of pin is a very 'safe'' way of letting subscribers know what they are getting/need.
Happy flying!
Nice review. The camera is CMOS and I think the CCD cameras, also inexpensive at about $17 from Banggood, are less prone to jello effects because of rolling shutter in CMOS devices. Thanks for exploring the more affordable options.
Hugh Dinwiddie Please point me to a cheap. 5v CCD camera...
Thanks
Painless360 I don't have this camera, but this looks like a possibility: goo.gl/mNXCsu After your video I ordered this which seems to be the same camera as the link here along with the transmitter you had: goo.gl/F5AZwc
It is very similar but not the same, will have to get one and see..
Thanks and happy flying!
Can you use an OSD with this setup? thank you for your brilliant videos, I've learned so much!
+Michael Brewer Yes, the OSD normally goes between the camera and Vtx. Best of luck!
Great Video.
But please note, in most EU Countrys are only 25mW allowed.
Mario der Goombaplätter True, always make sure you comply with local regulations. See this covered in my video series 'Introduction to FPV'.
Happy flying!
I built an FPV system like that with similar parts I got on Ebay. I probably should have ordered from Banggood though because the first seller I ordered from seemed to go out of business and was delisted from Ebay so I never got anything and had to order everything all over again from a different seller. I was going to use it on a quadcopter that I intended to build using a Pixhawk PX4 but since that's impossible to ever get working I'll probably use the FPV system to get video from a remote security camera instead.
Lots of other flight controllers to use if you have given up on the Pixhawk. Best of luck!
+Painless360 Yes I bought a KK2.1 that should be an upgrade from the worthless Pixhawk. Not as many features but at least they can be made to fly and you don't need any crappy shareware to run it.
The KK2.1 is BASIC so you've gone from one end of the spectrum to the other! Best of luck.
I found the 148 degree camera a bit too wide angle for me. They also sell the same setup but with a 110 degree camera which I find a lot easier to fly with.
Stuart Bailey Yeah, I normally fly with 110-120 degree systems myself but don't find the 148 degree tricky to use. I have used wider too and, for me, the detail in the centre of the screen became just too small.
Happy flying!
Good job on the fpv video i get all my stuff from Banggood.com but not the batteries get them from Hobby King.
Sylvanus Houseman Yeah, not too many LIPO batteries yet in the Banggood.com site..
nice info sir
Can you trim around the edges of the camera backplate to make its profile smaller?
Could I used the TX/RX both for video and controlling
Hi thanks for the reply buddy correct phantom runs on 5.8htz so I'm looking for 2.4htz will fine
I have pzo420h with rc832 and ts832...can't get it working though...where do I plug yellow cable into ts832...
Thanks so much for the clear explanation of this FPV system. I am totally new to RC and quadcopters so I have just now ordered the kit above and the Emax frame combo kit you also reviewed, so excited. Can you recommend an entry budget level radio and quadcopter battery as well as the battery for the receiver/quanum goggles. Thanks so much I'll keep watching.
***** Hi Rob, there are a few videos on the channel about learning to fly and flying FPV. This playlist may be of use - ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4rQfddw-7YZDzckoJ_KyOpm
Radios are an investment for the hobby and something that can stay with you for many years. I still use my first 'proper' radio a DX7 and have had it for almost 8 years now. I would look at what your friends use and consider radios like the Turnigy 9XR.
The battery to power the goggles doesn't need to be huge. I little 3s 500mah pack will run if for hours.
Best of luck with the FPV, it can take time to get to grips with it..
Many thanks for prompt reply. I'll keep you posted as to how things develop. Cheers
Best of luck with it. FPV is a blast!
Thanx friend
I can watch your videos for days!!! There is so much good information. Thanks for all the great instruction! Subd! I have a quick question. I saw a 600mw version of the tx kit from eachine on banggood. Would that be a better choice? Or does that not make too big a difference? Sorry if I missed that in one of your other videos. Oh yeah it will be used for racing and freestyle type flying. Thanks for any advice!
The more power equalls more range. A lot of countries only allow a certain maximum power for FPV transmitters so be aware of that when you order one. Best of luck!
Painless360 I will definitely remain aware of that! Thanks again!
Brilliant series of vids, can't thank you enough for all the useful info. Can I ask if the low cost fpv gear from banggood can be used with a Möbius to display on a ground station? Thanks again.
Roger Williams Yes it can. You will need to make the cable to connect the USB/AV out cable that comes with the Mobius to the Tx though..
Best of luck.
Instead of purchasing a monitor, are you able to hook this up to a lap top or a tv and get the image?
There are a few gadgets out there but I’ve not used them..
great video, thanks.
Is the RP-SMA adapter you quote in the mentioned products link above the correct one? or do I have to select which 'ends' I need when ordering. You guessed it.. I'm new to this FPV lark but I do intend to follow your advice on the strength of your videos here. Superb work! I hoping your setup here will be suitable for fixed wing out to 1500m?
The links are to the ones I am using in the video. Best of luck!
LOL is that Cheubaka I hear at 05:59 ? :-P
+Leffelito Yep - he crops up all over the place on the channel. He's been away for months but is now back home again now. Something about filming a movie in London with some old friends? Not sure what he's banging on about but he's been very excited.. :S
are you going to make video about how to make good quality of FPV video?
LC filter, BEC and so on
Konstantin Mishenkov Not planning to - I've never had any of the problems with interference here using industry standard kit and common sense..Maybe I've been very lucky..
Painless360
i use BEC to power video
without it video very unstable on maximum throttle
Startersets are very good. Do you know if there is a WDR (wide dynamic range) system in camera? This makes the image not better but the contrast is much better. Maybe an idea for another Video.
Have great weekend and thanks for so many informations.
Peter Neumann This is a camera and transmitter for less than £18 - what so you think? ;)
Saying that, the image is excellent but if you want to spend a lot more there are other options for a camera you could connect.
Hi, I really enjoyed your Video. I'm just a beginner . I don't seem to see much mention of good starter batteries ... would you point me in the right direction for batteries to suit the gear recommended in this video ? ( Cheers )
+Spyk There is a couple of series that I'd suggest you watch to help with your knowledge - the 'Introduction to RC' playlist and the 'Introduction to FPV' playlist. They should help. Let me know if there is still a question after you've been through them...
thanks, I needed that.
Excellent video! I have a question that isn't RC related, but still is on the subject of wireless cameras. I picked up a security camera and would like to use it wirelessly over an IP so I can view it on my laptop. I know there are systems that can be purchase, but this is a high quality camera that I have next to nothing invested in. I'm hoping I just need a transmitter, but I'm not sure which transmitter would be suitable. If you could point me in the right direction, that would be greatly appreciated :)
+4DIYers sorry, Im not sure. I would normally use some kind of FPV system but Wi-Fi connectivity isn't something we tend to get involved in a lot here for remote control. Best of luck with it.
No problem and thank you for the reply :) I appreciate your honestly.
What jst connector is it on the fpv transmitter? A wire came off and I can't get it back in so I will need to buy a new jst connector with wires. Thx.
Great review, really nice to know about this. I think compatibility is a great issue with FPV... and talking of compatibility, do you have any idea if this receiver work with the Walkera iLook camera? Thanks
sorry i don't and cant test it here. if it works with boscam or fatshark it should. .
Hiya Painless,can you show a vid on how to wire the Hobbyking G-OSD 3 Mini OSD System to this FPV system,I have tried numerous times but with no success as the wiring colours are different.
yoodoo122 Sorry I can't as I don't have one.
Best of luck with it.
Painless360
Ok,thanks all the same.
I m confused on 14:13, where is that interferance come from, is it solved by circular polarized antenna?
Vitaliy D Not sure what you are referring to, if you mean the distortion when using a FatShark Tx then not it will not. There are loads of 'Introduction to FPV' videos that explain it. Happy flying!
Chewbacca stomach rumble at 5:57
Yep :D
I have purchased the"Budget FPV kit" and it works great, I says on the instructions that the tx supplies 5v to the camera, would it be OK to connect it to a Möbius then (providing I don't make a Horlicks of the connection), anybody any advice on this?
William Mckinstry Not tried it myself as I tend to use the Mobius separate. Anyone else have any ideas?
thank you so much
How do the quanum v1 and v2's compare to the fatshark predators? What has the best video?
+FPViking You're asking if a £20 or £set of goggles compete with a £280 set? It's very much personal choice. See our review videos of them all for more detail..
Excellent!
Hi mate, a big fan of your channel here, you helped me to get my tri-copter with multiwii and now I have build several quads with naze32 with your help. Now getting into FPV, and I'm fighting with a Eachine camera to make it work with the minimOSD, so far no success. I see you have used that camera in this video, I have almost the same system (Eachine 600 with 800TVL camera), can you point me to the configuration I need in the minim osd arduino code to make them work together? (Eachine camera with the minimOSD).Thanks!
All of the steps are covered in the video. Check wiring and also that both are set to the same TV setting (PAL/NTSC).. Best of luck!
Hi mate, you have helped me loads with this hobby!! Keep up the great work, appreciate it!
I went down the Fatshark Predator route and thought they were ok'ish for my first FPV experience, I enjoyed it, but not what I hoped. Then I got the cheap HK Quanum as I thought bang for buck, they must be good..again, they were OK...too many wires!. Now I bit the bullet and went for the FatShark Attitudes V2 and even though only have 10 degree more FOV (its actually 40% more over the preds!!), I should have gone for them first time, this is FPV, they are a must, perfect kit!!! Anyway, long story short, compared to the fatshark cam and tx that comes with the goggles, how does this cam and TX compare in view quality? It looks and sounds too good to be true....for £20 are they that good??
PAUL DONOHOE The camera is ok, the transmitter is good. If you want FatShark quality buy FatShark ;)A number of people use the transmitter with a 5v FatShark camera (including me - you can see it on the Tri-copter videos)I would give these a try though on a model that you expect to crash. Happy flying!
Thanks for the great video. I'm trying to order the parts and see that there are now right angled antennas available from the link you included. However, I am getting a bit confused between the various SMA connector types (male, female, SMA, RP-SMA), so please can you clarify which antennas and connectors should be ordered? Thanks,
I always rely on the image in a listing as some vendors get confused too! ;)
Wood a boscam headset that's 250 mw go with a fat shark 250 mw transmitter
+John Pollard Watch the videos in the 'Introduction to RC' for all of the basics you need. Best of luck.
Over what distance would a system like this work (including the circular pol antennas)? Sorry I'm new to FPV, thanks
This is covered in the ' Introduction to FPV ' playlist. Hope they help!
How does the Boscam RC 832 receiver compare to the one you just reviewed?
Which battery should i use to power a 1000tv fpv camera with a 600mw transmitter.
Sounds like your are new to this. Check out the ‘introduction to FPV’ playlist for lots of the basics.. best of luck!
your PDF and youtube links doesn't work!
Thank you for a very informative video Painless, as this video is about 12 months old, are there better items to use these days? Im just getting into FPV so trying to get the best bang for my buck! TIA
+Trevor Crouch Great idea - this is due for an update! I'll add this to the list. See our latest reviews for the latest kit for this in the meantime..
Good video,,, thanks
Excuse me, I would even be a question.
How you can use the on-screen joysticks?
You transformed the cable? or always brought out the video signal cable and power.
Plugging the OSD cable and configure it?
Oh, and how many volts using
the camera hs1177
Sorry, we've not used those cameras. I assume that will be covered in the manual and specs. Best of luck..
Hey nice video.. I have a problem in Eachine VTX03 Mini 5.8G 9Bands 72CH. It's getting hot quickly. Is that normal??
+InfiKnight some of the smaller video transmitters do get quite hot so it's important not to have them sat around too long and get them in the Air flying where they can be cooled by the passing breeze. It shouldn't get too hot though, if it's getting so hot that it starts to have a problem with the video then let the reseller now
Thank you
Has anyone setup a two vtx/rec for FPV having 2 camera's for stereoscopic vision ? I was thinking how cool it would be having multiple camera's
That's how some of the side by side systems do it. Look at the 3D systems from Skyzone.. Happy flying!
Does any body really ever check the mw power of your video transmitter? Thinking about increasing from my uk 25mw...
Bishop Vick With the right antennas you can get 1.5km+ ranges with a 25mw Tx. See the videos on antenna choices for the ground station in my 'Introduction to FPV' series..
Hope it helps.
What limits or decides/controls my FOV, the camera or goggles?
tahosrfr The camera, mainly. The screen/goggles you use may clip a very small part of the screen around the edges.
Hope this helps.
What is the range of this fpv before it breaks up? Also can you use a screen/monitor to see instead of the goggles? I'm new to this stuff.
+betactical Range is tricky to answer as it depends on the antennas used, local conditions, power of the Tx, sensitivity of the receiver, position of the craft etc. With decent antenna this will easily get you past 400ft and well beyond with the right kit.
Is quid and pound the same thing?
Yep ;)
Great video.I realize this is a little old now but Banggood have discontinued this receiver (RC58-32CH) - would you happen to have a recommended alternative please?
Id look at the excellent HobbyKing receivers we've looked at on the channel - they are also covered in the HobbyKing ground station video too. Best of luck!
I'm not sure if there's a problem here with My Transmitter, I've ordered 2 of these, the 600 mW version and the 200 mW version, I've recieved the 200 mW version already and during the bench testing everything seems to work perfectly, great video and good reception, everything.. My main issue is that the Transmitter gets extremely hot, almost to the point that you can't touch it, that's a bit worrysome. Is there a problem, or is that normal, should I maybe fabricate some heat sinks? And that's just the 200 mW, the 600 mW is I'm sure gonna be even worse.. :(
+Soco Joe They do get very warm, If you have a few little heat sinks it wouldn't hurt to pop one on the back of the inbuilt heat sink.. Best of luck!
+Painless360 Thanks very much for the reply, I just happen to have a Boscam 250 mW that never really worked right, why I bought these, such good reviews, I'll definately try to patch the heatsink from it to this new Transmitter.. Great Video, thanks so much for the Education, I'd never be able to do this without Your help.. ;)
Can you tell me how much range this camera transmitter has. I am new to this FPV systems.
+G777GUN if you're new then watch our 'Introduction to FPV' series. It covers all the basics.. Best of luck.
Thankyou
How about the range or distance?
See my videos in the introduction to fpv and antenna lab playlist. All covered in there...
off topic---- how much is a "quid"
google says it's slang for a pound.
What Type of antenna did you get?
i mean L type or w type
thanks
Really the only reason I use fatshark is they are tiny and portable.
They sure are - we'll be showing the new Fat Shark Attitude V4's in the next few days too! :D
I'm going to order everything listed above. I have a question about the antennas on Banggoods site they have 4 different types which is the correct one to get?
L Type RP-SMA Male
L Type SMA Male
W Type RP-SMA Male
W Type SMA Male
+Michael Brewer I'm not sure, depends on what antennas you have/are going to order.. I've not heard of W and L type..
Ok, your link redirects you to the page with the different antennas.
Check the images in the listing, looks like SMA male and W type (i.e. no L bracket). Check with the vendor before ordering..
how to increase my transmitter range amd how power booster work
Use a Tx with more Mw/power and use a high gain directional antenna. See the 'Introduction to FPV' series.. Best of luck!
Painless360 thanks
direct link on banggood or the type of vtx. would any 5.8g vtx work on fatshark leleporter v4, or do I need to swap out module in the googles too?
V Tran I have a complete series on the channel - 'Introduction to FPV' that should help. Best of luck with it.
Hi again, I'm reading up about fpv and to me it seems the 2.3 ghz and 1.3 ghz frequencies better for penetration and signal but I can't seemed to find any equipment for them within the U.K. Law. Any ideas on what I can get for long range fpv without breaking the bank?
1.3 is not available for airnourne transmittion here in the UK. Check out sites like the www.fpvuk.org/fpv-law/ to see what's legal. If you use 100mw 2.4Ghz for the radio and 25mW 5.8Ghz for the FPV you're good. Other bands area available for specific things too..
Hi im new to fpv n I want to put together something like this but using my Teleporter V4. which I currently have from my RC RTF VAPOR combo. would u post direct link to the vtx n how to link it to my fatshark leleporter v4? thanx
V Tran I have a complete series on the channel - 'Introduction to FPV' that should help.
Best of luck with it.
Hi painless does this RX run on 2s ?
Also with the quanum goggles, Ive noticed ready made rc sell a 5inch dvr with built in RX and battery that has a higher resolution screen. I was just wondering if that would be an option to put that dvr in the qaunum head piece. It would be all in one
phats24 Specs say that it will run from 7v and up so maybe.
Sounds like a nice idea - let me know how you get on!
is your camera actually 148deg fov, I bought 2 of the 200mw combo and a spare camera all advertised as 148deg fov, I can tell and show (video a/b comparison filmed from a 7" screen with edges of fov marked for both) that the 3 that I recieived (2 in combo with 200mw 32ch tx 1 seperate seperate for quanam goggle mount cam) are nowhere near 148deg, they are substantially narrower view than a 131-132 deg fov mobius c lens camera, all labeled with little silver sticker as 148deg, all appear to be 110deg.
so howw do ya connect recever to a car monitor?
Please see my old video on building a ground station.. I did it there..
can u plz suggest a cheaper reciever ?
These days I quite like the Quanum Autoscan receiver - works well and great screen for simple setup..
what's the range in this ? love your videos
Depends on what you end up with but 200ft plus should be possible on a 25mw Vtx with decent antennas.. Best of luck!
if i had 32 of these cameras could i just go trew the chanles and look and all the diffrent 32 cameras
+Michael Langell It's a lovely idea but wouldn't work in practice. See the 'Race Band' video for why..
thx
High would this set up work direct on my phantom fc40 at the mo I'm running a sj4000 cam direct on its own battery power .
+Winston Banks Not sure, as we've not used the DJI products here. You should be able to make it work with a little cabling.. Best of luck..
do u need a battery for the video receiver AND the video goggles?
Usually you use the same battery for both..
I have a couple questions regarding FPV:
1) You are using a 148 degree camera in this video. Do you find 148 to be the best choice for FPV? They also offer a 110 degree version. I think something narrower would be better. What are your feelings on the 110 version?
2) I'm from the US. So, what are the regulations for FPV use and power levels? I'm guessing this isn't an easy question but I'd like to get your take on this since I'm sure you are in contact with many US FPVers.
+Christopher Lyons I find the best views are 120-130 degree, any more feels like I loose too much detail in the centre of the image. Some fly up to 147 degree but that's the limit for me. I'd check with the local FPV resellers and check in the forums. I'd suspect that it's 25mw but every location seems to have a different law! Happy flying!
Thanks. What about 110?
See my previous answer ;) A lot of this is personal choice and what you are used to..
Hello. I love your videos. But i think i made a mistake i cant check by now. Everyone says dont power up VTX withoit antenna. Whell i did and it was on about 30sec on 25mW. So how long does it take to burn it? I would like to test it, but i destroyed my VRX so cant recive video. I wonder if it can be burned, so i order new VTX now cos i would not like to wait 2 weeks for VRX to come and another 4weeks for the new VTX to come. I use TX001 Eachine VTX.
On lots of the cheaper transmitters it's usually very quick, a couple of seconds is all it takes to cause damage. On more expensive transmitters like things from TBS, they're designed to withstand transmission without the antenna attached for quite a long time. That's done so if you crash in the antenna snapped off then it doesn't fry your electronics. The only way you'll find out for sure, is to test it properly. Best of luck....
Crap... I tried it if it was hot, but was not. Now i dont know anyone to have vRX to test it. Is there any way to test it with multimeter? Like some setting that would tell me if it transmits the signal? Any responce would be good. I would meshure it on the board with antenna on. I dont have equipement for meshuring signal strenght like few people have as i saw in the videos.
Thanx for your reply.
Greentings from Slovenia ;)
Just one more question. Does it help if vTX vas set to 25mW and vTX has original soldered on 4cm pigtail with antenna mount or you thiink it is definetly burned? vTX is Aomway TX001
Whell the vTX is still alive. It did not got burned. Mavy helped that it was set on 25mW and it had original attached pigtail, so it took those 30sec without antenna It still works :)
Greetings...could this FPV be connected to smartphone or Laptop?ThankYou
+Tamim Mahairy yes, a Google search should find all sorts of gadgets that will let you do that..
Nice review and a neat little package for the money. Can I just get the transmitter on its own? I've managed to smash the SMA connector off my 250mw Fatshark transmitter and after soldering back together, it's doesn't appear to be performing as well. Also, is the connector which goes into the camera the same as the Fatshark cameras connector? I have the 600TVL CMOS Fatshark camera which is good enough for me.
valderja Yep - I am using it with a FatShark Pilot HD camera at the moment on my latest build (tri-copter).
Happy flying!
Thanks for that.
What kind of range do you find you're getting when flying a quad fairly low down with this setup using those CP/CL antennas?
I don't fly too low personally. there is a rule of thumb that your height should be 10% of the distance away from yourself to maintain a good connection. I have had the craft low about 240meters out and now had an issue though..
Hope this helps.
Good to know, thanks for the info. I found that I was having signal drop outs when I was a couple of hundred yards away when I was maybe only fifteen feet off the deck with my current setup. Signal is much better when I'm higher up
will this system work with boscam transmitter
Should do, see the later video of this one where we look at the newer kit.. Happy flying!
Will this RC58-32CH Receiver work with the nighthawk pro 280?
+Stephen Gibb Should do..
Love your videos, I'm learning a lot! A question concerning the power necessities of the video receiver. It states 12V DC in but you're using a 3S (11.1v) supply... Any idea what this receiver regulates it to internally? I'm wondering if a 2S might be sufficient..
Actually same question about the transmitter. The 3S connector is supplied, but do you think this set might run off a 2S supply? For me my question is two-fold. First the literal question: can I use 2S? Well, I might just try and find out :) But also more general: is there such thing in the RC/FPV world as a common voltage that most electronics tend to operate on?
+lebasson Great question. Most transmitters are designed to work with 2-3s packs (check the specs for the one you are using), a 3s pack can be anything from 12.6v down to 10.5v (!) in use. There is normally a voltage regulator on them that is reducing the voltage to 5v anyway. Most things run on 5v and we use BECs to reduce the main battery voltage to that more useful voltage for all the electronics. Hope that helps..
+Painless360 That certainly does, thanks! Just ordered some BECs for future use. Handy for LED strips I imagine. Both the sender and receiver you used in this video work just fine on 2S btw. Happy!
Can I am connect cc3d flight controller
See my old CC3D series on the channel. I've not used one for a while!
Hey Painless.I went on your advice and bought this system and boy was I pleased with the outcome,thanks.
Just a quick few questions,can you put a link up for the RCA jack. Did you notice that the transmitter was getting pretty hot? I'm using a Turnigy 11.1V 3s 1000Milli battery for my Goggles and same for receiver and one for the Quantum goggles,did you notice or is it just mine?
Thanks
J
Jack.F Rost I got the RCA jack from the local electronics hobby shop (Maplins here in the UK). The Tx does get warm but not excessively so..
Jack.F Rost All transmitters get hot . The bigger in wattage the more heat to a degree, no pun intended. LOL
Why is no one talking about BETTER cameras i.e. LENSES??? I would think that would be something you wouldn't skimp on if you're interested in Aerial Cinematography / Photography???
+Jay.C.Fotografie Absolutley - the lens obviously make a lot of difference to the image, but in practice the low res displays used for FPV make little practical difference to the image you see UNLESS you are talking about reduced lens flare and other features of improved lenses. See the Mobius and 808#16 videos to see the different lenses and read up on the FatShark FPV tuned cameras to see more.