What nobody would tell you about the Ecoflow Delta Mini (882Wh model)
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- Опубликовано: 30 дек 2022
- In this video, I'm going to talk about some unique features of this portable power unit that sets it apart from other models/competitors. This is not a sponsored video in any way but rather I just want to share with you my experience from using it for a few months' time.
Super underrated channel. Thanks for the detailed information, brother!
What I like best about the Delta Mini is that they were able to pack 882Wh of capacity in such a compact design.
This is hand down one of the most informative videos on a very clever idea. Thank you very much.
I'm watching your videos again this year to refresh my memory of the tips and tricks that you share. I really enjoy your videos. Other videos are very generic and repetitive. Your videos are packed with creative ideas and useful information.
I have a the same Delta Mini and also a TimeUSB LiPo4 12V 100Ah battery & a 200 watt Solar Panel. I'm bringing all this and also a small window Air Conditioner (410watt )unit on a trip to South Dakota. Please pray it keeps us cool the few nights we camp. Hopefully using the 882 watts from the ECOFLOW plus the 1200 watts from the battery minus any losses will be sufficient. My wife is the ultimate arbiter of success. 😅 please pray.
Also if you have any suggestions please share. Regards, Joe
Nice info, thanks and happy 2023!
Thanks for sharing all of this information. I did not expect that there was a lot more to the Delta Mini aside from the fast charging and quite powerful 882Wh capacity.
thanks for doing such a thorough and informative demonstration. I really learned a lot! Most of all, I am super happy that I got the Ecoflow Delta Mini
Perfect supplement to the other reviews. Answered my lingering questions. Perfect.
Purchased today refurb from Ecoflow. Thanks again for the vid.
Good job! Thanks for this information. I have a Mini and it’s good to know I made a good choice.
Love this video. EcoFlow SHOULD sponsor you so we can see more informative content as some guys just give out info you can easily find on the spec sheet while you provide some real testing scenarios.
This is amazing! I was thinking of purchasing the Bluetti because of the extra capacity but now I think I'll go with ecoflow
Thank you, that is informative, especially the charging voltage info.
I think we have same reasons in purchasing the Delta Mini. All I can say is that it is a pretty awesome power station and for the features that it has it is surely a great bargain.
I did notice that the LCD display of that power station is bright and easy to read. It also has the information on the power in terms of hours and minutes which is very helpful in estimating the amount of power left.
I made the sap flux you showed us and it worked out great. I tried it with non fluxed solder and it worked great thanks
That's awesome!
I had one of these less than 2 months ago. It ran my 1820 Keurig coffee maker.. but decided I didn't really need it.. but things have changed (monetarily) for the better.. and I'm going to get another one in a couple of days. Yes.. small in size and BIG in power.. Moving off grid soon.. so it'll come in handy. Sure wish it would accept 400w instead of 300.
Are you getting the Delta 2?
For me what set it apart from the other power stations is the very fast charging, as it only needs 1.6 hours to fully charge.
Thank you for the solar test
Great info !!
I believe the 170w you saw from your 24v max battery is about right. The 24v max is a marketing trick. It is the peak voltage that the battery is charged to. In this case 12 18650 batteries wired in 6s 2p. So if you are discharging them at around 10amp or 2c the voltage of the individual cells would be around 3v. 3v x 6 cells is 18v x 10amp results in 180 watts. But I could be wrong! Interesting video, thanks.
You're absolutely right. After making the video, I double checked on the battery and found out it only has 1 bar left (about 25%). That's why when under a high load, it goes down to under 3V per cell hence the 170W total (17V x 10A = 170W). When the battery is fully charged, it puts out at about 21V under load so it should have been about 210W total.
@@vuaeco Ha, first time I was right this year. I did it with 6 hours till the new year!
@@bradwhite6254 Better late than never! 🙂
The cells in the tool pack don’t drop to 3V under load. The lowest a cell should drop to at its max continuous discharge rate is about 3.5V. This is one way you can determine the actual max discharge rate of a cell, especially rewrapped cells that have crazy ratings like 40A in a 3000mah 18650 cell. Load up the cell until it’s voltage drops to 3.6V from from 4.2V and that current will be the max safe discharge rate. There are other factors like temp and capacity pulled. Temp should never go above 80 even by the end of discharge and the capacity should still yield at least 80% of its nominal rated capacity under a 0.2C load. For example the Samsung 25R is rated for 20A continuous and will be pushing the envelope for temp at the end of the discharge by being in the upper 70’s (IIRC) but it should still yield a capacity above 2000mah despite starting its discharge with an abrupt drop from 4.2V to 3.6V or 3.55V.
Any cell rated for a current level that drops below 3.5V once that load is applied has definitely degraded to the point where it would be considered to have reached its End Of Life metric which often includes only retaining 80% or 60% of its nominal capacity at the lower discharge rate (0.2C for energy cells but often 0.5C or higher for power cells). Some cells like the Samsung 30T will pull just shy of 3000mah at any current level below 20A because they have such low resistance. the 25R sees a similar capacity rating of 2400mah compared to 2500mah for 10A and 0.5A respectively.
Dont let scammers pass off fake power cells, buy some 0.2 Ohm resistors to test your cells at 21A at 4.2V and 20A and 4.0V. The voltage drop is one of the fastest ways to catch them before losing any buyer protection you might have. A 100W aluminum resistor is less than $10 for a 2 pack and all you need is a DMM to measure the voltage drop to see if your 15A/20A/25A cell tolerates a 21A load like it should. The 15A cell might sag down to 3.4V but it should still hold itself alive for a short period of time. A 10A cell will sag down towards 3.2V or lower.
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Thank you
Wow! I was hoping I would come across some external battery work around. This is amazing and cheap! I’ll definitely be buying a couple of these packs.
I just ordered my Delta mini through Costco at $479. I’m getting it Friday. This is awesome, Thanks!
great video? thank you!
May the new year bring you many more kilowatts, but no fire trucks. ✊🛠️🚩
Awesome! I want to build an extra battery system like yours! Is there a link or best suggestions on great value setup? Im gonna have to figure this out correctly on tight budget 🙌🏼. Thank you for all the input. Great video!
Love the Delta Mini. However I've been using the Delta 2 more since it's got LFP batteries.
The delta 2 came out immediately after I got the mini. Wondering how many years the mini will last with the 800 cycle battery used not so often
This model also is the closest to providing a full15A 120 without Xmode, Its my favorite one. I can power a microwave easily.
Great video, thanks. Do I understand correctly, that if I connect a solar panel, that has voltage within the mini's specs, but rated higher than 300W, the mini will pull only as much current as it can handle?
How did you make connection to the Greenworks 60 V garden tool battery? Some sort of flat spade terminal? Did you only need to connect to its +/- output terminals or did you also need to connect other terminals to get it to output? Does it shut itself off when discharged too low? I.e. does it have an internal BMS?
I love your accent. It's a mix of asian and southern
He maybe is vietnamese with ethnic Chinese background or just vietnamese.
I wonder if the lower wattage (at less than 10amps) from the 24v Kobalt battery might be related to voltage drop? Perhaps the MPPT algorithm in the Delta Mini detected voltage drop at higher currents and dropped back to a peak power point at 176 watts. You might try measuring the voltage at the connector on the back of the Delta Mini while charging from the Kobalt.
I have the same Ecoflow Delta Mini. Today i connected 4 Valence batteries in Series @ 48 volts plus. to run my 5000BTU A/C . Wattage of the A/C was about 395 and the 4 batteries gave me 305 watts. The Ecoflow mini display said i could run the A/C for 5 hours. I would think i should have got more hours than that? Another problem is i have to charge the 4 batteries to top them off for another day. It took about 4 hours to charge all 4 batteries. The charger was drawing about 345 watts and of course went down as the battery got closer to fully charge. I have to ask myself how much did i really save using batteries instead of the house AC?
There needs to be more variable input inverters. Why can't you get an inverter that takes between 12-72vdc and outputs 120 or 240 ac?
I wish there were one variable input inverter and I'd be all over it. Unfortunately almost all inverters require a fixed predetermined input voltage, including this Ecoflow power unit. The variable input voltage goes to the charge controller which charges the main battery. That input voltage is not the actual battery itself.
I am looking for one where the input voltage is between 100 and 130 volts DC. Let me know if you where I can source one.
@@vuaeco check out MPPSolar LV6548. Might fit your needs. The variable input via the DC to an inverter which then goes to the ouput without a battery.
Is that a DIY ceramic heater?
so i have a deltflow delta max can I plug the delta mini into the delta fliw max to charge it up
Very interesting. I looked at lot into ecoflow but for me personally, these units are too expensive and i‘m anyway more of a diy guy. I built a 8 kWh LFP power station with 3000 Watt inverter and 200 Watts of solar. Thisbis a perfect system and in a power outage, i can power my entire house from this. I can always add more solar or just leave my car running to generate 12V boosted up to Battery bank Voltage. I heard that Cars can idle for up to 3 days or so. Yeah, it is an interesting topic.
Youre better off putting an inverter on your car in that case
@@yummiermussel5331 no, because i have solar and can run my house for quite some time. If there were to be no solar, i can idke my car for a few hours and run my house for a day instead of idling my car nonstop. Way more efficient!
@batterynerd8779 Ah ok, well i guess as a trucker im used to my truck powering my inverter. When my company didnt allow inveerters i bought a river 2 pro and ran things that way, but it was under powered for my microwave so it took much longer to heat things up that way. But the mini is 399 at sams right now and i think im gonna pull the trigger lest i regret it later.
Would this run my snow Joe snow corded snow thrower at 15 amps
I'm in the market for the delta 2 for $850 at Amazon. Is it worth it over the mini?
The delta 2 battery will last years longer with the Lifepo4. The delta 2 came out immediately after I bought the mini. And it’s a huge purchase for me. Wish I’d have gotten the delta 2 so it last me years longer. 😭🙃
Sorry off topic what do you think on this ebike I know you have a couple and you like budget ebikes ONEBOT T6F
I've seen a couple of reviews on that bike. It looks nice for $500. But you get what you pay for. The battery is only 7Ah so you only get about 12 miles max throttle only, not 30 miles like they claim. I have a 10Ah battery and I barely get 15 miles (on full throttle, of course). Also, the motor on that bike is only 350W. That's small for such a big bike.
Thank you for the quick response
You really want a scope with FFT to see if the sine is pure.
You didn't use an XT60i connector on the solar input of the Delta which overrides the "car charging" mode that it stays in to protect your standard car outlet with a 10A fuse. It will limit charging to 100W...
Although that doesn't make much sense if you are applying 60V.....I might be wrong and it may be only an amperage limit....but the Delta Mini has a 10A limit so it must be an overall power limit.
Stupid decision IMO. The XT60i is kind of a pain to get (have to order from Aliexpress if you don't want to shell out $$$$ on a cable with teh connector from Ecoflow)
The XT60i has a pin with a resistor that tells the power station that car charging is NOT the input and to allow charging over 100W.
Max 10A, but chances are the current is 7, 8A. You should have measured the current and see if that's the case.
I would hope nobody would mistake this for a sponsored video, considering you show people how they can avoid buying a more expensive model by employing, oh, let's say an ebike battery for more run time. 🙂
Nice comment Mr. Row!!
@@billrimmer5596 Thanks. Here's to hoping we don't hit "midnight" on the nuclear scientists' Doomsday clock in 2023...
This video is really great for information and details.
But, you really need to work on your audio quality....
12:15 Now that your subscriber base is going up, I c the wife let u pop for a pretty expensive toy. Have u got her to b your camera person yet? Pretty soon, u may b able to quit your real job. I think the way u handle your channel is very wise. All we know about u is that sultry wise voice. Imagine being Matt’s off-road recovery. U wouldn’t even b able to go to Costco and get a hot dog without the paparazzi. In your case I should have said Lowe’s. I’m sure u live in the Kobalt section when u go there.
LOL, you're absolutely right about the Lowe's part. I camp at the Kobalt section. You're right about the Costco hotdog part, too. But I'm not sure about the paparazzi! :D
@@vuaeco I recently bought the Kobalt right angle impact ratchet. Almost never use it. The electric ratchet I use all the time is the 3/8 extended Harbor Freight and the M12 Milwaukee brushed ratchets. They r light and fast. I have about five electric ratchets. M12 extended, Makita 3/8 and 1/4, M12 1/4 Harbor Freight extended 1/4. I do a lot of close work on timing belts and junk like that. And, I buy way too many tools.
This is already outdated. The Delta 2 has better batteries (LiFeP04) that will last 3000 cycles (about 10 years), this is only Li-Ion that will last about 3 years, or 800 cycles. Delta 2 has more power and excepts more solar input, 500w, and it's only 1 inch larger. Plus the Delta 2 has an expandable battery
I like the Delta 2, too. But it's $1000 vs $750 for the Delta mini. That's 30% more expensive. If you are willing to spend extra $, that's the better option.
BUT YOU LAST 3.5X LONGER .simply if you do 1 cycle a day so in a year you have 365 cycles on the battery . If the lifepo4 has 3000 cycles with a drop to 80% battery you have 3000/365= in 8,2 years you have 80% battery.reportedly lasts up to 6000 cycles with a drop to 50% .Still, the battery degrades over time on its own. From this selection only Delta 2 or Delta pro is really worth it because otherwise it is like a li-on battery for an electric bike which would be extremely used.