Honestly, if you interpret the Thief's inner monologues as someone riffing on this movie, it makes the Miramax version of The Thief and the Cobbler just that bit more bearable.
Considering this is Jonathan Winters, the guy who inspired Robin Williams, I would totally believe that since the guy could improvise with anything presented before him. His most famous bit involved being given a stick and asked what to do with it, within the span of 5-10 minutes, he would come up with multiple scenarios and sketches using nothing but a stick and leave the audience in stitches. Years later, Robin Williams would do a variation of that sketch for Sesame Street. So while this version of the Thief and the Cobbler is completely not in line with Richard Williams' vision, there is some amusing irony in Miramax re-editing the film after the success of Aladdin and hiring Robin Williams' muse and influence to voice the Thief. Plus, even I have to admit, Jonathan Winters is probably the only memorably funny thing from this cut.
@@Volts48 I have a weird way to think about each of the released versions. The Princess And The Cobbler (the Calvert version, no thief voice) is a better representation of Williams’s original vision (which is definitely the best version), while the Miramax version is the better film. I hate to admit it, but Jonathan Winters can honestly be pretty funny in here, but I do feel bad that this is one of his last bigger roles, and it is definitely disrespectful to the original invisionment (even though Jonathan not Miramax knew).
I would want to see a version of this movie with all original scenes, were what happens when you don’t finish school with a few more songs with way more better animations, Jonathan winters as the thief, tack silent, original voices of other characters, and original soundtrack from the thief and the cobbler workprint/recobbled like the one eyes war march, tack and princess yum yums theme, zig zag the grand vesier, and the ending song where the thief takes “the end” with a few other stuff also
For such a skinny guy, the fact that he managed to lift each golden ball (all of which are obviously heavy AF) from the very top of the minaret, is nothing short of amazing.
Finally...the Thief's mumblings were the best part of this movie, when I was little, and I can't for the life of me find this version anywhere else on the internet XD
I loved this movie so much. The theif was my favorite, always making me laugh. I asked my friends at school if they had ever seen this. When they told me no, I couldn't help but think, 'you guys had no childhood -_-'
I love love love this version. I wish someone could post THIS version cuz this is the best version of the movie where you hear the thiefs inner monologue.
Won this movie on a cruise during an Easter Egg hunt when I was little. Loved this version so much!!! Thief was the best character. Did the thief’s single shoe dangling from his toes all movie give anyone else incredible anxiety? 😂😎
I wish someone would make a version of the re-cobbled cut that reinserted the thief's lines. I think tack being silent adds to his character, but I think Jonathan Winters nailed this character. Aside from that, not a fan of the Miramax version, but still wish we had this thief in the original.
I think he ruined it. He's only supposed to be thriving because he loves doing it. He shouldn't be panicking or fussing over the things he's gonna buy (which shouldn't even exist in the 3rd century), he just loves sneaking around.
As a child who recieved this as a gift on vhs, i didn't know any better. This version is flat out nostalgic to me. When i saw bits of the original and it didn't have his monolog, i felt.... incomplete. Its simply just one of those scenarios where I'm one of the only ones that's gonna end up liking this. Me n my friends use to quote the thief when we were wee lads too!
@@Scars1023 exactly! I loved this movie when I was little and the thief had me laughing so much, I think if a movie can make you laugh and give comfort, especially for kids then its good :))
@@lexlixatkwa7nelson3 i think the only thing that i noticed as a kid, is that some of the songs definitely weren't catchy or memorable. And i think i MIGHT of even noticed the dips in quality in animation in certain segments. Like i noticed how some parts were drawn nicer than in other scenes. Overall, i loved that movie and i loved showing it off to other kids at the time, who hadn't heard of it
you know, after you've watched the recubbled cut, the video really does feel like an abridged parody. however, i still prefer the thief as silent. i think his character was conveyed just fine.
JONATHAN WINTERS. The Thief was voiced by JONATHAN WINTERS. In this version anyway. And I’ll eat my hat if the man has become this much forgotten by now.
1:13 For the 1993 cut "The Princess and the Cobbler", if the Thief spoke in his mind and Steve Martin voiced him, I bet he would say these lines a little differently before Jonathan Winters would do them. Like so: (Smallest gold ball) "And you're gonna buy me a castle in Scotland." (Medium-sized gold ball) "And you're gonna buy me everything I need to turn my basement into a home gym." (Biggest gold ball) "And as for you, sweetcakes.... I'm tellin' ya. I'm going to Disney World!"
Gosh, thank you. I need this full version again. My VHS is no longer in playable condition. I loved this movie. Without the thief's inner monologue the movie is so dull.
***** It does get better - the beginning is slow and complicated, but that's kind of what Williams had in mind. The rest contains more of the classic animation and throws out the songs and voiceovers for bits like the above.
I love the thief voiceover. He has hilarious thoughts in that head of his, and we really get to “hear” it here. Makes the character/movie more personable I find.
In the original version when the Thief looks down, I can imagine it going like this: Thief's thoughts: Well, at least I made it. I wonder how high up I am, anyway. (Looks down) Whoa! I think I just remembered what rule number 3 is...
Never gets old. and one of my more fav movies. It didn't need to be redone (recobbled as they put it) with the thief's voice (thoughts) being taking out.
I probably only seen this movie once as a kid but it really stood out to me from how weird it was. Was starting to think this movie was a weird fever dream. But I especially remembered this scene; what I was seeing and what I was hearing didn't even make sense to my little child brain.
It's weird...I respect Richard Williams's vision so on the one hand it's a bit upsetting that they decided to give the Thief an inner monologue for purposes of accessibility. On the other hand...Jonathan Winters is so damn funny.
I know it's not the original but I actually prefer this version with the thief's constant inner monologue. It made it so much funnier as a kid and now I can appreciate those jokes as an adult. I think both versions are good for different reasons.
I wish this movie was like the recobboled cut but still had johnathan winters voice over, he's way funnier than what I could come up for the character in my head.
He was an comedian and voice actor. For example, He was one of two cast members of the Hanna Barbera Smurfs series to have an role in the live action films. Winters originally voiced Grandapa Smurf, in the animated series then voiced Papa Smurf in the two live action Smurfs films. Frank Welker was the only other cast member in both the live action films and the animated series.
I like this version better at least it was funny. A lot of people give the inner monologues grief but to me they were little gems of Comedy sprinkled throughout the movie
Pardon me, alana grace, but the voice you're thinking of is Jonathan Winters. He gave the Thief internal monologue thoughts when the character did pantomime. I just thought I'd remind you who that voice was.
Who do you guys think would be a good voice for the thief in the 1993 "The Princess and the Cobbler" Cut? Should it be... A. Steve Martin B. Tony Randall or C. Leslie Nielsen
Disregard that first rule. I don't know much about tight rope walking, but I'm pretty sure the eyes are suppose to be straight ahead, not necessarily on the wire. Monkey feet are probably a good idea, though.
Well I Love Disney and The Thief and the Cobbler 1995 Miramax Version, And the ReCobbled Cut Mark 4. and I love going to Disney World in Orlando. :3 So if you want to go to Disney Land Thief You might wanna go to the one in Orlando. :3 But wait until the Star Wars Area is finished. :)
The thief’s dialogue is a bit much but I could still see why people like him (I personally prefer the re-cobbled cut over the voice over) other than that the un-cobbled version is... egh
The Miramax version is an abortion. There was supposed to be NO dialog from either the thief OR the cobbler. The completion bond company that took the movie away from Richard Williams ruined it. Having the thief constantly blather on in his head gets old fast...but, of course I'm sure the inner monologue was added because people are really stupid and can't figure out whats going on on their own, being idiots and all. Also, the switch from the original animation and the "new" stuff is jarring. Check out the recobbled cut.
+signals3 Well it's not to me. Because years ago, when I was a small child, I went through a period where I was depressed and prone to crying and throwing fits more so then usual and for no good reason. Then one night, my mother and father brought home a movie that they thought would cheer me up. The Mirimax version, and for the first time in a long time, I smiled and laughed again. The version Williams hated helped me when I needed it and for that I will NEVER turn my back on it. When I saw the re-cobbled version, IT felt like the aborted verison. And if you tell me I should dislike it because Williams did, I have four words for you. I'm not Richard Williams.
Disney used their puppet company (Miramax) to make fun of The Thief and The Cobbler as though it were a rip off of Aladdin despite it being the original.
This movie was a fever dream on mushrooms and LSD. Idk what was happening the entire movie. It was an experience that either made you go against drug or taking a lot of them and idk which
As much as it didn't become the masterpiece Richard Williams wanted;
This version makes a good abridged movie with Jonathan Winters' dialog.
Rule #2: It's always good to wear underwear when you're up this high. Otherwise, you'll attract a sizeable crowd.
Rule #3: Throw down the stick and run like hellll!
Honestly, if you interpret the Thief's inner monologues as someone riffing on this movie, it makes the Miramax version of The Thief and the Cobbler just that bit more bearable.
Considering this is Jonathan Winters, the guy who inspired Robin Williams, I would totally believe that since the guy could improvise with anything presented before him. His most famous bit involved being given a stick and asked what to do with it, within the span of 5-10 minutes, he would come up with multiple scenarios and sketches using nothing but a stick and leave the audience in stitches.
Years later, Robin Williams would do a variation of that sketch for Sesame Street.
So while this version of the Thief and the Cobbler is completely not in line with Richard Williams' vision, there is some amusing irony in Miramax re-editing the film after the success of Aladdin and hiring Robin Williams' muse and influence to voice the Thief.
Plus, even I have to admit, Jonathan Winters is probably the only memorably funny thing from this cut.
@@Volts48 I have a weird way to think about each of the released versions. The Princess And The Cobbler (the Calvert version, no thief voice) is a better representation of Williams’s original vision (which is definitely the best version), while the Miramax version is the better film. I hate to admit it, but Jonathan Winters can honestly be pretty funny in here, but I do feel bad that this is one of his last bigger roles, and it is definitely disrespectful to the original invisionment (even though Jonathan not Miramax knew).
Or how about he’s talking telepathically?
@@SHaddad2377
Who's he talking to? Us, the audience?
I would want to see a version of this movie with all original scenes, were what happens when you don’t finish school with a few more songs with way more better animations, Jonathan winters as the thief, tack silent, original voices of other characters, and original soundtrack from the thief and the cobbler workprint/recobbled like the one eyes war march, tack and princess yum yums theme, zig zag the grand vesier, and the ending song where the thief takes “the end” with a few other stuff also
"OK, OK. Who's got the Camera?"
Do you think that counts as a fourth wall break?
Probably.
I love that part. And at the end of the movie, they put a screenshot of that moment in the credits. Which makes it even more awesome.
I'll be honest...I find that one funny the first time !
For such a skinny guy, the fact that he managed to lift each golden ball (all of which are obviously heavy AF) from the very top of the minaret, is nothing short of amazing.
Finally...the Thief's mumblings were the best part of this movie, when I was little, and I can't for the life of me find this version anywhere else on the internet XD
Full one
ruclips.net/video/DCVGMDfCGRs/видео.html
It’s out now!
"RULE NUMBER 3 -- THROW DOWN THE STICK AND RUN LIKE HELLLLL......"
0:40
I love how much this dub doesn't fit the character at all...It's amazing.
I'd imagine Williams' theif to just have his own shifty theme song playing in his head that cuts out whenever he loses control of the situation.
@@Scroteydada I imagine it's like the mission impossible theme or something.
@@kayleighbrown459 like kronk
It was only at the end that I realized this was the original dub. Nightmare!
i love the thief so much
The Miramax version is inferior, but credit where it's due - the Thief's Voice Actor was hilarious.
My aunt had the Miramax version on VHS when I was little, so I believe in my heart of hearts that the Miramax Version is Superior, but that's me.
It’s Jonathon winters. It’s gonna be hilarious.
The great Johnathan winters
I love the Thief in this version. It doesn't fit the Re-cobbled Cut but he never fails to make me smile.
As a kid this was comedy gold. As an adult this is comedy gold
Yep, It might not be the more superior 'Re-cobbled Edition' but the Thief is the best part hands down!
I like how his nose inches up the pole xD This movie is highly underrated.
when I got to that part I immediately looked in the comments to see if someone else also likes that part!!! hahaha!!!
I loved this movie so much. The theif was my favorite, always making me laugh. I asked my friends at school if they had ever seen this. When they told me no, I couldn't help but think, 'you guys had no childhood -_-'
I grew up with this version of the movie thinking it was a fever dream.
Boy was I perplexed. I still remember him mentioning Disney land or something
Omg that is my favorite part in that movie I kept laughing,man that thief never learns how to quit
X3
“Rule # 3: Throw down the stick and _run like Hell!”_ 🤣
I might be one of the only ones who enjoys this version of the movie.
You're not alone
I love love love this version. I wish someone could post THIS version cuz this is the best version of the movie where you hear the thiefs inner monologue.
I used to watch this movie constantly when I was a kid. Oh man, I loved it.
I've watched the other versions and it's just not the same without the Thief's running commentary
Carly Mara I recently learned there were other versions and it just isn't the same. I grew up with this one.
Get the joke? Because going to Disneyland/world is expensive. Thus why the biggest ball is needed.
He could had bought the castle with really rad rec room in Disney Land!
Won this movie on a cruise during an Easter Egg hunt when I was little. Loved this version so much!!! Thief was the best character. Did the thief’s single shoe dangling from his toes all movie give anyone else incredible anxiety? 😂😎
I know it's blasphemous but the thief's dialogue always makes me laugh
The thief’s monologues will always be a guilty pleasure of mine
There’s part of me that wants to hear the Thief monologue in the Recobbled Cut. “Aw, c’mon, fellas, you caught me red handed!”
I loved this version of this movie♡ I always laugh so hard♡ He was a great comic relief for the movie. He made this movie a million times better.♡
It's funny how going to Disneyland will cost more than the other stuff.
This is my all time FAVORITE movies. No joke. I have THIS version on VHS and will never ever enjoy any other version.
This version sucks. There's so much missing.
I wish someone would make a version of the re-cobbled cut that reinserted the thief's lines. I think tack being silent adds to his character, but I think Jonathan Winters nailed this character. Aside from that, not a fan of the Miramax version, but still wish we had this thief in the original.
I think he ruined it. He's only supposed to be thriving because he loves doing it. He shouldn't be panicking or fussing over the things he's gonna buy (which shouldn't even exist in the 3rd century), he just loves sneaking around.
That would be awesome!
As a child who recieved this as a gift on vhs, i didn't know any better. This version is flat out nostalgic to me. When i saw bits of the original and it didn't have his monolog, i felt.... incomplete. Its simply just one of those scenarios where I'm one of the only ones that's gonna end up liking this. Me n my friends use to quote the thief when we were wee lads too!
@@Scars1023 exactly! I loved this movie when I was little and the thief had me laughing so much, I think if a movie can make you laugh and give comfort, especially for kids then its good :))
@@lexlixatkwa7nelson3 i think the only thing that i noticed as a kid, is that some of the songs definitely weren't catchy or memorable. And i think i MIGHT of even noticed the dips in quality in animation in certain segments. Like i noticed how some parts were drawn nicer than in other scenes. Overall, i loved that movie and i loved showing it off to other kids at the time, who hadn't heard of it
The thief was absolutely hilarious to me as a child this was one of my favorite movies 😆 such a character I love the voice actor they did so good 😂
you know, after you've watched the recubbled cut, the video really does feel like an abridged parody.
however, i still prefer the thief as silent.
i think his character was conveyed just fine.
JONATHAN WINTERS. The Thief was voiced by JONATHAN WINTERS. In this version anyway. And I’ll eat my hat if the man has become this much forgotten by now.
While I understand the history behind this passion project and how it was screwed over by execs, I love Jonathan Winters in this so much 😭
this video is literally the best thing ever. Thank you so much XD And I believe the guy is Jonathon Winters.
Honestly, I thought he would use the last ball to go to Universal Studios Florida. Cha-Ching!
I don't care what anyone says, I loved the thief having a voice. In my opinion it's way funnier.
I loved the movie
Same here. Made me laugh as a kid… and still makes me laugh now!
1:13 For the 1993 cut "The Princess and the Cobbler", if the Thief spoke in his mind and Steve Martin voiced him, I bet he would say these lines a little differently before Jonathan Winters would do them. Like so: (Smallest gold ball) "And you're gonna buy me a castle in Scotland." (Medium-sized gold ball) "And you're gonna buy me everything I need to turn my basement into a home gym." (Biggest gold ball) "And as for you, sweetcakes.... I'm tellin' ya. I'm going to Disney World!"
I haven't seen this movie in years but I haven't forgotten the Thief.
Jonathan Winters who also voiced The Narrator in Frosty Returns and Papa Smurf in the Two Live Action/CGI Hybrid Smurfs Movies.
"ok ok. who's got the camera?" XD
I don’t mind having his voice being in head, because we get to know what he’s thinking about and how thinks of things.
Gosh, thank you. I need this full version again. My VHS is no longer in playable condition. I loved this movie. Without the thief's inner monologue the movie is so dull.
I think one can find it on DVD.
Now I see why the version without the voice over is so much better.
+Paul Wayper I tried the re-cobbled version, and I stopped five or ten minutes in.
***** It does get better - the beginning is slow and complicated, but that's kind of what Williams had in mind. The rest contains more of the classic animation and throws out the songs and voiceovers for bits like the above.
Paul Wayper
The classic animation is crappy and the rest of the movie is a snorefest.
Well, I like when the theif speaks. Because I knoe what he is thinking and plus I love the voice of Jonathan Winters.
I love the thief voiceover. He has hilarious thoughts in that head of his, and we really get to “hear” it here. Makes the character/movie more personable I find.
1. Buy a castle by the sea.
2. Buy everything you need to turn the basement into a wreck room.
And 3. Go to Disneyland. 1:33
This is so much better than others
In the original version when the Thief looks down, I can imagine it going like this:
Thief's thoughts: Well, at least I made it. I wonder how high up I am, anyway. (Looks down) Whoa! I think I just remembered what rule number 3 is...
well marv this concludes our polevolting event and now let's move on to the floor exercises.
Bro this legit has the same exact vibes as the snapcube real time fan dubs
I love both the dub and the recobbled version!
Never gets old. and one of my more fav movies. It didn't need to be redone (recobbled as they put it) with the thief's voice (thoughts) being taking out.
One of the funniest parts with the thief was when he screamed at his reflection lol
Funny & Slapstick Comedic Animated Extravaganza!!!!! Hilarity throughout the whole entire scene!!!
I probably only seen this movie once as a kid but it really stood out to me from how weird it was. Was starting to think this movie was a weird fever dream. But I especially remembered this scene; what I was seeing and what I was hearing didn't even make sense to my little child brain.
The way that they didn't even animate the thief's mouth moving...
That is because the Thief was never meant to talk, Miramax (Disney) added a voice for the Thief and Tack.
@@ElliottEntertainmentChannel Yes, but they animated Tack speaking.
This place makes bootcamp seem like Disneyland!
I think everyone can relate to the thief to some degree.
the miramax version is extremely awkward to watch
+JasonJacksonJames Well it holds a special place with me.
And cringy.
@@jaythebillz9543 cringe isn't real. Its just cowardace
I love this version so much
This voice over
It hurts my soul
1:34 I'm going to Disneyland! (CLANG!)
This is the version I grew up with and I’m trying to find it online and it’s nowhere! I’m glad I wasn’t going crazy and making up the thief talking 😂😂
The version this is playing is way better than the recobbled version by all means
His quotes are the best part of Miramax.
He doesnt move his lips this is ALL in his head and i love the idea that he sounds an adam west wizard for an internal monologue
It's weird...I respect Richard Williams's vision so on the one hand it's a bit upsetting that they decided to give the Thief an inner monologue for purposes of accessibility. On the other hand...Jonathan Winters is so damn funny.
Funnily enough, Miramax was Disney owned when this cut of the movie was released.
0:13 𝙝𝙖𝙫𝙚 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙩 𝙡𝙞𝙠𝙚 𝙖 𝙢𝙤𝙣𝙠𝙚
😚
I know it's not the original but I actually prefer this version with the thief's constant inner monologue. It made it so much funnier as a kid and now I can appreciate those jokes as an adult. I think both versions are good for different reasons.
This sounds like an abridged
I wish this movie was like the recobboled cut but still had johnathan winters voice over, he's way funnier than what I could come up for the character in my head.
I freaking love this part
Johnathan Winters
He was an comedian and voice actor. For example, He was one of two cast members of the Hanna Barbera Smurfs series to have an role in the live action films. Winters originally voiced Grandapa Smurf, in the animated series then voiced Papa Smurf in the two live action Smurfs films. Frank Welker was the only other cast member in both the live action films and the animated series.
I like this version better at least it was funny. A lot of people give the inner monologues grief but to me they were little gems of Comedy sprinkled throughout the movie
when i think of Arabian, I think of Aladdin! actually this was made before Aladdin!
-Nostalgia Critic
Pardon me, alana grace, but the voice you're thinking of is Jonathan Winters. He gave the Thief internal monologue thoughts when the character did pantomime. I just thought I'd remind you who that voice was.
this guy is really funny
1:34
"I'm going to Disneyland!"
The fact this feels like a fandub makes it funnier
Who do you guys think would be a good voice for the thief in the 1993 "The Princess and the Cobbler" Cut? Should it be...
A. Steve Martin
B. Tony Randall
or
C. Leslie Nielsen
A
@@sandrakaywright good choice. That's who I would pick too.
Disregard that first rule. I don't know much about tight rope walking, but I'm pretty sure the eyes are suppose to be straight ahead, not necessarily on the wire. Monkey feet are probably a good idea, though.
I feel like this is the oldest case of abridged movie clip
Well I Love Disney and The Thief and the Cobbler 1995 Miramax Version,
And the ReCobbled Cut Mark 4.
and I love going to Disney World in Orlando. :3
So if you want to go to Disney Land Thief
You might wanna go to the one in Orlando. :3
But wait until the Star Wars Area is finished. :)
The thief’s dialogue is a bit much but I could still see why people like him (I personally prefer the re-cobbled cut over the voice over) other than that the un-cobbled version is... egh
Jonathan Winters RIP
Better voice than Calvert's workprint. He sounds stereotypical there.
I honestly like this version. The thief was the best part
From what I read, one of the actors is Johnathan Winters
I HAVE BEEN LOOKING EVERYWHERE THANK YOU LOL THIS IS A CORE MEMORY OF MINE 😂
Edit: also I kept thinking he sounded like Markiplier lol
So, how much would cost to finish the animation from the Recobbled Cut?
The Miramax version is an abortion. There was supposed to be NO dialog from either the thief OR the cobbler. The completion bond company that took the movie away from Richard Williams ruined it. Having the thief constantly blather on in his head gets old fast...but, of course I'm sure the inner monologue was added because people are really stupid and can't figure out whats going on on their own, being idiots and all. Also, the switch from the original animation and the "new" stuff is jarring. Check out the recobbled cut.
+signals3 Well it's not to me. Because years ago, when I was a small child, I went through a period where I was depressed and prone to crying and throwing fits more so then usual and for no good reason. Then one night, my mother and father brought home a movie that they thought would cheer me up. The Mirimax version, and for the first time in a long time, I smiled and laughed again. The version Williams hated helped me when I needed it and for that I will NEVER turn my back on it. When I saw the re-cobbled version, IT felt like the aborted verison. And if you tell me I should dislike it because Williams did, I have four words for you. I'm not Richard Williams.
Art is totally subjective. I am glad that any version of anything helped you.
signals3
Thank you.
Jonathan Winters was the best part of the movie!
Disney used their puppet company (Miramax) to make fun of The Thief and The Cobbler as though it were a rip off of Aladdin despite it being the original.
_"Who's got the camera?"_
I'm going 2 Disneyland!! LMAO
I love this guy lol
rule number three the creator of this movie attended for the thief and the cobbler to be mute
This movie was owned by Disney.
0:40 rule number 3: throw down the stick and run like hell
Rule number 3 throw down the stick and run like he....hewwww ooh oh ohhhhhh
the thief is the only good part of the miramax cut IMHO... especially since like half of his "dialogue" is just random grunts or noises
This movie was a fever dream on mushrooms and LSD. Idk what was happening the entire movie. It was an experience that either made you go against drug or taking a lot of them and idk which
1:35 to find Aladdin
Funny how Disney was mentioned in a non-Disney movie
Okay, who’s got the camera?