Red Xiii, on his date, wonders if they will end up forgetting all about the whispers. I predict that, whatever happens, at the end the party will only remember the things that happen in OG FFVII, making both games the same story
I would like to believe the Sephiroth in the other world, the calm one, 7 seconds to the end. I think he will be the one who will take off his jacket and fight Cloud.
He can't do that anymore as he underestimated Cloud in his own words. I think an Omni-Aerith might just do an Ultima Amoura Breach or something and makes sure he is shirtless before he dies.
If part 3 ever comes out, this "Reimagined" trilogy, Chadley will merge with Sephy creating the ultimate endboss, Chadleyroth. Its the ONLY way this can go down
Final boss fight could have Cloud's buster sword slotted with both the black and white materia in the two slots making him ultra powerful. I'm thinking Cloud is going to get Sephiroth, Jenova, and the Gi tribe all to the edge of creation and summon both holy and meteor to obliterate them once and for all ~ It'll look like a self-sacrifice, but Aerith will pull him through one of her weird lifestream/multiverse portals at the last second, saving Cloud.
At last i found someone who in 10 freaking minutes REALLY GETS what this trilogy is. It's the end of the FF7 Compilation... Amazing video! This Remake project is a dream come true for me as an OG FF7 Fan...
That’s what I’m saying. This is gonna be the swan song to the timeline of FF7. I think of it kinda like the evangelion rebuild movies if your familiar with them
I like you're prediction that Sephiroth will permanently die in this iteration. I also agree that filling up the clear material will be present. The only aspect I'd like to change is Aerith's death. Yes one version of her died (main world, Beagle Stamp dog breed) but it would be even more depressing if all versions of her ceased to exist. You have to remember how Cloud was in Advent Children, he was totally wrecked emotionally... On top of that this Cloud still believes (main) Aerith is swell so it'll be real interesting to see how Cloud we be throughout the 3rd FF7R game and I personally don't want Cloud to suffer again like that. There might be another way. Fun discussion.
I think so to. I think it was even implied in the dream date that sephiroth was going around and killing all the aerith sin all the timelines. But yeah 100% I think that this game will be a good ending. But cloud will have to go through everything he went through in the OG first
That is my problem with Zack after og ff7. He is supposed to put over Cloud. And you suggest for him to help Tifa in the lifestream? Any of Zacks actions take away from the living characters who should do them.
smh these ppl prolly dont even remember from whom Cloud got his sword. The lifestream section was mainly to mend cloud's fractured memories, and zack definitely should take part in it. I'd argue aerith is also gon be there to fill the missing part of FF7rebirth ending
@@dsx4AI No he shouldn’t loool. Zack giving cloud the sword and telling him he’s his living legacy doesn’t even mean anything if he’s just alive helping cloud find his real self 😭
@@harry5384 but zack is alr DEAD. What do you think lifestream is? it's where all the dead ppl return to. If he's alive, how did he give cloud his sword? what kind of logic do you ppl even have? Zack in lifestream sequence makes more sense than putting him in missable hidden cutscene like in OG FF7
I can. But in the timeline we are in. It hasn’t happens yet so I’m convinced the whole point of remake is to prevent advent children from ever happening
Im still holding onto the theory that the Sephiroth we follow in OG is actually the cloud we play as in the remake setting things in the correct course
Sephiroth will not be killed without redemption...without meeting his real mother, Lucrezia and learn the truth of his birth. Omni Aerith's death is unlikely, unless there is a multiple ending option. She already sacrificed herself once. She deserves to live...perhaps without memories of Cloud and the others...Again, her dying feels like hope dying. She also can't be forgotten, though her omniscient self will likely end, I believe she will become a normal human, no longer a Cetra...Perhaps someone sacrificing themselves for HER for a change ( Either Cloud or Zack) I also vouch for Hojo being the true villain of the game and want to see Glenn Lodbrok's deal unfold. That guy is intriguing.
I don’t think aerith will live. Her death is one of the most important moments in the OG and her being alive would go against the whole theme of loss that the game is about
@@shaulov10 I think the main theme of the game is transcendence and breaking the cycle..,not loss. It comes at a cost, but for the creators, whom like you said, feel they need to conclude the story properly - must bring (Or transform) the sense of painful yearning that originally provided us with meaning as fans of the game to an end. Again, in order for the body to heal, the wound must be cleansed...First and foremost by adderssing the suffering of the main antagonist, which will also alleviate the need for the main sacrifice to take place is it will no longer be necessary for the planet to follow the dictates of destiny - create weapons and muster its efforts by exploiting the cycle of life and death to "fix history", perpetuating the suffering of inncoents... which, as the plot suggests is a delusional projection of madmen seeking power, not the will of the lifestream ("He will say he will do anything to save the planet, but it is not how it was meant to be" - Aerith ) In order for Aerith to ascend over Jenova, she must become Cloud's (and ours) permanent source of light that can only be extinguished when all of mankind will finally perish, and not before. Her death has meaning only if Sephiroth's hate for Cloud remains. Cloud cannot kill Sephiroth feeling guilty and confused...Hence Glenn☺ We need to know why Cloud was so strong he tossed Sephiroth around like a ragdoll that emasculated him so much, he literally created the plot of FF7 as a coping mechanism. So long as the source of his strength are the S Cells in his body Aerith will stay dead. Advent Children sort of, kind of resolved this issue by having Cloud accept her death...but then again what's the point behind "the sequel theory" if that's the case :/ The theme of loss is recurrent in every FF title, lol...But when the maiden defies destiny, becoming a fighter, she can make her dreams come true. (Moral of the story in FFX for example) why not have something similar happen here? It's still Final Fantasy, not Final Reality. Sorry for the spam.
I was with you until you said Geo Stigma ended the human race. 1. That’s an interpretation that’s never been confirmed (Not to mention, they make a point to have children laughing after the final scene). It’s intentionally ambiguous, and if you’re referring to the quote from 2005… that was years after the original game was completed, and they were retroactively creating a narrative that Sephiroth lives on. Red and his children are seen looking at an abandoned Midgar, simply implying that the earth has taken back over the industry which robbed the lifestream. 2. The Geo Stigma is cured at the end of AC thanks to Aerith and Zack? So to say Geo Stigma alone “ended” humankind is just a theory that IMO doesn’t hold much weight. Personally, I think it will be a lot more clean. Since the “singularity” happened at the end of Remake, we’re dealing with 1-2 universes at most. Zack may or may not join the party, but eventually he will accept his fate in that he needs to be with Aerith to support her when Holy is struggling to work. There’s too many beats that people are looking forward to that they wouldn’t shake up. I’m sure the final fight will be a convoluted, trippy Kingdom Hearts-esque mess - but ultimately it will come down to Sephiroth being defeated in a more permanent way, and Holy stopping meteor.
Thank you for bringing attention to the laughing children at the end of the OG ending. Too many people overlook that, as well as interpret an abandoned Midgar as some indication that all of humanity is gone. I’ve always believed it to mean-ever since beating the game as a 12 year old in 1998-that humanity learned to co-exist with the Planet rather than just live “on” it and that the ruins of Midgar showed they kept their promise to no longer abuse it. The greenery and Nanaki’s cubs are signs of new life, and there wouldn’t be new life if Mako energy was still relied on as it was prior to the events of the game.
@@GuiltyGaming No worries at all and I agree with 95% of your video. I think people are overthinking this, which is the intended reaction Square wanted, but I seriously doubt the ending of Part 3 will be that wildly different from the original game. It's the double edged sword of expanding a unvierse with more "lore." At what point do you lose the message of the original content by trying to create so much fan service in additional content? Like you, I beat the original game when I was a kid (although I didn't beat it until 2001 haha) and I've been pleasantly surprised by how faithful the games have been so far. Some of the "multiverse" stuff is convoluted, but when I ask myself, "What's really different?" -- the answer is, not much. Aerith seemingly has been killed in the main timeline that we have been playing in, but either she's projecting herself in Cloud's mind to protect him (for her own reasons, I assume), or she can still communicate with Cloud in some way...but Sephiroth is the one projecting her to hold Cloud's mental health together until he gives the black materia to him in the North Crater. Zack is seemingly alive as well, but as you said -- I think these games are "sequels" to the original game + Advent Children. And the theme of loss, sacrifice, and grieving are far too large in the original for Zack to just alter fate that much. One way or another, I see him joining Aerith in the afterlife/lifestream in part 3. It will also be a gut wrenching loss, perhaps one that Cloud sees wide awake which makes it that much more gut wrenching. But at the end of the day, for all the tinkering Nomura is doing with the timeline stuff, I think he too respects the original lore. It's like taking a fully completed puzzle, throwing it into the air and seeing pieces break apart, but ultimately falling back in place (or mostly in place) as it was before.
@@GuiltyGaming whoops lol. Well still I agree with the original user’s take on a lot of things, and yours as well. Like in the original (when you lose Aerith), the ending to Rebirth left me shocked, confused, saddened, angry - but there was some acceptance after a few days. I think we’ll fully see how broken Cloud is in part 3, and when he accepts that she’s gone (and he’s been living in denial this whole time), his spiral into Mako poisoning will be 10x worse
I don't think the White Materia will be filled with Clouds memories: Whilst replaying Cosmo Canyon I listened again to the Gi's descriptions of the Black Materia "From the Planet we claimed the greatest of Materia - a most sacred treasure - and imbued it with our desire for freedom" "The purest Materia made black by spite" Implying the Black Materia began as white & they are unique from other Materia as they hold hopes & dreams. Supported by the famous Cosmo Canyon NPC quote: "Spiritual energy is a manifestation of our knowledge & memories - What about our Hopes & Dreams, we remember those don't we? Its contents were hidden "between worlds" - the same location as the Dream Worlds we visit. We have an empty White Materia, and appear to have seen a glimpse of a dream of a world where Cloud parried the blade. I think it is highly likely we will experience the continuation of that dream as a major portion of part 3 and that it will eventually occupy or be drawn into that empty Materia. 2 orbs, a dream of Optimism and a dream of Pessimism. It’s funny that Square famously received a petition to resurrect Aerith. The “hopes and dreams” of the fan base. They will not compromise the story or its themes to do so, but within the context of its world, they may just show us a dream of what that is.
That’s interesting. But I feel like again. Once we get to that lifestream sequence. Cloud is gonna have to face some truths. That’s where I believe we’re gonna see the real events of what happened at the capital. And once cloud knows the whole truth his hopes and dreams and memories will fill the white material. It just makes too much sense
I agree on the importance of that scene. It is central to Clouds character development. I think it would be a good place to explore the Death of Aerith, however I think the truth of her death may have been revealed to him on his first visit to the northern cave before he hands over the black materia. Cloud will discover that he was never in SOLDIER and that he failed to save his friend. Sephiorth will ask Cloud to lend him his strength again to begin uniting the worlds. He will have extra leverage this time as parrying his blade created a dream world in which Aerith survived. He will offer us a chance of all being together again if we help him. Cloud and by extension the player will say yes, agreeing to help him, thereby rejecting death.
@@shaulov10 In addition to the handing over of the black Materia scene, we may explore her death scene further in the "Lifestream Scene" and or in the "Projector Scene" upon re-visiting the city of the ancients.
@@shaulov10 I concede that filling the materia with his memories may be an interesting way of saying that its power comes from his acceptance of her death. Tying in with the theme of the game. I however think that their goal / statement runs a bit deeper than that.
I kinda wonder something. Maybe getting rid of Sephiroth for good isn't about erasing him. I feel like there's foreshadowing to what COULD happen. In Advent Children, Kadaj, an aspect of Sephiroth, let go of his hatred, and took Aerith's hand. Thus, peacefully going into the lifestream. In Ever Crisis, Sephiroth realizes the cycle of hatred, and how hatred only begets hatred. And, as you said, Sephiroth is clinging onto life because of his unending hatred. So.... Does that mean to get rid of him for good, he'd have to let go of all that anger? Or, alternatively. He clings onto life also via memories of him. And Cloud is an anchor for him.... Cloud might be the one to die in that case. (God I hope not.... But, knowing Nomura and the others. It wouldn't surprise me.)
The way I see it. Is that the OG ff7 was the bad ending. And what I feel is that OG ff7 is gonna be us a good ending. Maybe they don’t have to kill sephiroth but maybe they need to kill jenova. But idk. I still think sephiroth needs to die so that advent children never happens
This entire game takes place in the ending of the OG game right before sephiroths last stand. Its sephiroth trying to last minute take control of cloud before his shirtless self dies.
I think they touched on this a bit at Cosmo Canyon regarding the spirits there that wanted the black materia to end their experience because they are not native to the planet. This will also factor in I believe with Sephiroth.
Clouds mind is not gone. Cloud sees two different worlds...one that is his reality and then another one on top of that. In the last moment when he blocked sephiroth's sword attack directed at Aerith, we saw the rainbow effect again this means a NEW WORLD was created. ( like Sephiroth explained to Cloud, that *The Planet encompasses a multitude of worlds, ever unfolding* ) This means a new world was created , one where Aerith survived the Sword attack and then our current reality where Aerith died. So Clouds mind is not gone aside from the fact that Sephiroth can control him sometimes. ( like in the original ) But in terms what he sees..he simply sees his reality and then another world on top of that.
I don't think it's a sequel. No actual travelling has taken place by Sephiroth or Aerith. They're just aware of the multiverse and potentially some future events afforded to them both via the planet/lifestream. That said, what Sephiroth says to Cloud in Remake makes me think differently. "You need not remind me, it was the crowning moment of our time together."
I think people expecting closure at the end of the 3rd game are setting themselves up for disappointment. Not saying it’s gonna be a bad ending, but I think the devs will want to leave stuff up for interpretation. Might rub some people the wrong way if it happens but it’s what I’m expecting. Maybe we’ll get a definitive answer to Sephiroth’s fate but other things will be left up for the fans to theorize and decide for themselves.
I wouldn't be surprised if the final cutscene goes back to Aerith looking into the Mako pipe. Leaving the player to assume that at this moment Aerith becomes aware of the entire future. I always wondered why Aerith got startled when she stood up. Perhaps it's because she knows about Sephiroth and the Whispers?
I'm not a fan of Remake's direction of changing the original with a multiverse plot but by analyzing the type of stories the writers do in their work and everything i think that Part 3 will end up with erasing Jenova. I think it will be something similiar to JoJo's Bizarre Adventures Part 6 where they just erase the main villain from existence and it resets the timeline They will use that blank materia to make JENOVA as just a memory after destroying them then them as memories will also be destroyed and the universes will fuse or something like that This will reset the entirety of FF7 timeline creating a world where JENOVA never existed, with that FF7 story would naturally progress with Zack, Sephiroth and Cloud eventually defeating Shinra and Hojo, or Sephiroth could also just not exist in this timeline like Pucci in JoJo. Alternatively, there will be a similiar thing with making Sephiroth/Jenova be "just a memory" through the blank materia, we were show with Rebirth that you can erase memories with materia so... Thus making them never return ever again and somehow get rid of JENOVA cells in Cloud, this would probably require some sort of sacrifice from Aerith and the alternative Zack. Personally, I would prefer the Remake to simply be the original story without all this KH bs in the middle, but i think that whatever they are planning to it's something like what i suggested or just giving a happy ever after ending to FF7 where everyone will get their good ending. Edit: There is also the possibility and honestly the most possible one that it won't be too different from the original ending but with more spectacle and convoluted stuff in the middle that will lead to Sephiroth never coming back and probably Zack and Aerith giving a final farewell to Cloud and the fans.
@@shaulov10 i never hear Aerith say that, not even in any of the novels, that only the cetra can use a white materia and even if that's the case, why can they be the only ones to use the materia
Here are my thoughts on this ending. IF Seph is going to be completely destroyed…the thing that is keeping him in the lifestream and being able to be reborn is the Jenova cells in him. Things not of Gaia cannot return to her. So…that means the Jenova cells would need to be REMOVED and THEN destroyed…but by that logic…that means curtains for both Zack and Cloud…not to mention Rufus and whoever else had Jevona cells in them. I also think since Cloud literally not only remembered Zack ON HIS OWN (which was maybe the most shocking part of this entire game for me personally) but he also fought alongside him live and in person. So for me that makes me certain that the life stream sequence in FF7 Reborn (definitely the third games title based in the name of the One Winged Angel track in Rebirth) will almost certainly mainly revolve around cloud being forced to realize that he did not save Aerith (it’s the only other thing in this story that is dramatic enough to also break clouds brain).
Oh dang yeah I completely forgot about jenova. Well I think a way they can remove jenova is again, with the white material. Where the Newley powered ones can purify the body and cleanse all jenova cells. Now for the lifestream sequence. I still think it’s gonna be about cloud realizing his Zach is dead. Cause he still doesn’t know what really happened. And I also do believe he will find out that aerith is really dead.
@@shaulov10I’m telling you, the Zack thing is almost definitely NOT going to be the lifestream moment anymore. It doesn’t make any sense. He didn’t even know Zack existed in the OG up until that point and it broke him. He just fought alongside him. It’s gonna be Aerith focused. And then we are going to assume control of Zack as the main character until cloud is well again. It’s clear to me that Zack was yeeted into our player timeline at the end of Rebirth. I don’t think the white materia is going to cleanse Jenova because that would have already happened back when she first crash landed on Gaia. We have a working and full white materia in our timeline from Omni Aerith. I love these videos crafting theories! But I really don’t think the White Materia is capable of cleansing Jenova. But honestly…with this third game that the devs have stated is going to be very different…WHO KNOWS
@@SnowCoveredKK your missing the point. Cloud still thinks that He was in zacks place 5 years ago. Realizing he wasn’t was the breaking point. Yeah he remembered Zack but he still thinks he was in his place 5 years ago.
@@SnowCoveredKK they've completely destroyed tifas moments then?? not only does cloud remember Zack without her help but the lifestream sequence is all about aerith? thats insane what is the point of tifas character then?
Well technically advent children already happend. Since this game is a sequel. But my thought is that the goal is to prevent advent children from happening in this new timeline
@@shaulov10 well it is possible that this could happen after advant children it has still been confirmed by Tetsuya Nomura that the ff7 remake trilogy will lead up to the events of advant children. The goal could be to prevent advant but because it is already confirmed to also happen after the games cloud and the others would fail in doing so. While I do believe many parts of this theory would be true it is simply not possible for the party to stop Advent children.
At the end of the day all of these games are all just one big remake. And while there might be some slight small additions to the plot, like with Wuti in part 3 the main story of FF7 will remain the same as the original. The only thing to theorize about is what the fuck is happening with Zack.
Plot twist Sephiroth is never born after they get rid of him... Instead of 500 years later it's back to Nibelheim 5 years ago it's Zack, Cloud and... Angeal.
@@shaulov10Seems like everyone forgot who Hironobu Sakaguchi is and OG FF7 is Sakaguchi’s baby. Nomura didn’t have a directorial debut until FF8. But if you wanna be technical, (FF7: Remake Trilogy) is Nomura’s baby.
I hope they don't ☠️ off sephiroth, but instead he be returned to a timeline where he can be happy. Like have Vincent keep lucrecia and get rid of hojo.
Really good theory brotha, i could actually see Zack being the ultimate sacrifice so that Sephiroth is ofiicially gone. Maybe thats why he was brought back.
@@leviticus6105 I mean I’ve openly said in past vids some of my ideas came from watching max. He has a really good understanding of the series so I try to build off what he has said and make my own thing. But im pretty sure that he’s never said that sephiroth needs to die.
I think the real problem is the jenova cells inside sephiroth. Not his human part. I think all existence of jenova will be completed removed from the planet along with the gi. Will that mean Cloud will disappear with Zach and aerith? Maybe. Just like the Gi, she can’t just die, because she’s not from the planet. So long as her cells are part of a beings structure, they can’t properly die… I think. Maybe the black materia will be used along with the white materia to turn on sephiroth and jenova. Not sure how, but it would kind of work. Using jenova and sephiroths anger against them.
I believe Cloud is dying and returning to the life stream. Cloud is fightinf tbe last remnants of Jenova Cells within himself. The Hero Sephiroth in Remake asjed for Clouds help to defy destiny. I think its Sephiroths last chance for redemption and he is asking Cloud to help end Jenova who I think manipulated Sephiroth after a Traumatic event. I believe Aeris (original Aerith) is fighting from within the lifestream. I believe Aerith may have been killed by Cloud who was manipulated into believing he was striking Masamune when in reality it was him killing Aerith. Aeris says "I see what you did back there." Because she found out by watching the memory unfold as Cloud is dying and its his memories that Jenova is trying to manipulate in order to break Clouds spirit. If she does she could presumably make OmniCloud and All the characters, Zack, Sephiroth, Tifa, Aerith, Barrett, Yuffie, Cid, Vincent, Cait Sith, The Turks... i believe they will all fight to bring Cloud back from Jenova seperating the Cells and then we get Jenova Final Form and have Cloud, Sephiroth, Zack team up to finally end Jenova. I think this will also kill Sephiroth, but he will have known and accepted this fate, never being just a memory... he would be a legend. Cloud finally after ending Jenova arrives in a bed of flowers at the church, waking up to everyone around him including Zack and Aerith, who Zack now knowing Aerith has true feelings for cloud gives his blessing and maybe a hint at a Tifa interest? Just for a cherry on top, I hope it ends with a Bustersword being put in the ground over midgars ruins, we get an older Denzil and Marlene holding it, with Marlene telling Denzil, "Cloud did it! He made it to the promised land." Because everyone talks cloud and big future, we forget Marlene knows things she shouldnt. Thats my theory
Thing is if Aerith really did die, then they’re now sending a tremendously toxic, fatalistic message. Even when you know the future and want to change it , you are completely powerless against tragedy. That’d be one of the most profoundly toxic messages I’ve ever seen in fiction, and from that alone, I have faith that Aerith will be okay.
Thing is Aerith has to die in order for them to win. Hence why the timeline where Sephiroth won was also a timeline where she lived. Her death is more than just a tragedy and honestly if they were going to keep her alive then they would have done the same to Zack. What they are looney going to do with that Aerith ghost is have her try and fail to help Cloud after he falls into the lifestream.
Your right about Sephiroth, but wrong about Aerith. Zack is going to fix Clouds mind and he is going to save the sleeping Aerith. That will be part of the" happy ending " and they will defeat Jenova completely.
@@elChirrinChirriondelDiablo well agree to disagree, bud. As far as I am concerned, it cannot be a fan fic when the same personnel are involved. Just doesn't make sense.
@@FVD and that’s what make it even worse, with a lot of the original staff they did a terrible job, with inconsistencies, rip offs of future events and bad writing that’s why I call it a fan fic.
This is not a recap. 1. "Cloud's mind is all messed up.", meaning you need an excuse to discredit Cloud so you can pretend Aerith is dead. Cloud said "I got this." 2. "Nobody trusts him.", meaning you want to believe there's conflict, when there isn't. 3. "Aerith is probably dead", meaning you watched Zack being alive for the 11th time but still refuse to believe Aerith is alive, like a lot of other annoying RUclipsrs. Here is a *recap*. 1. Cissnei feels Zack is still alive. 2. Cait Sith foreshadowed, "I don't know if Sephiroth is alive, dead, or something in between..." 3. Jesse's dad is "stuck between worlds" 4. Red XIII "died" in the intro, in Terrier, which shows that dying in one "world" doesn't mean a real death. These other worlds have puppets. Another example of this is when Cloud killed soldiers in the Temple, who then "resurrected" as monsters. In short, they didn't die. 5. Aerith now appears to only Cloud, just as Sephiroth repeatedly has, but she physically exists in a separate space. 6. Shinra didn't rebuild Nibelheim, because it never burned. Fake disaster, just like every other disaster Jenova/Seph causes.
When I take issue with here, is you stating that the originals ending was “the bad ending”. That is just a fundamental misunderstanding of what the original ending is trying to tell you. It is a happy ending. The earth has reclaimed what was diluted by man which was the main theme of the game! Saying that is a bad ending that should be avoided is insane to me because that is the whole theme!
@@mastersword648 I mean. I don’t mean the OG game itself was a bad ending. But the original timeline is a bad ending. I mean even after ff7 ends. Sephiroth comes back and causes geostigma. And by the time of derge of Cerberus. Like all of midgar is destroyed. That’s not the best ending in the world
@@shaulov10 maybe in the continuation it became one, but I don’t think the intention of the ending was meant to be a downer or a bleak ending to the story. When analyzing the narrative beats and themes of the original, the ending is a positive end. So having the remake trilogy end by saying “that ending? that was a bad ending for the characters and was a big bummer, why don’t we fix that?” is inherently, calling the original a problem that needs to be fixed when it isn’t.
Omg they ruined it? They went back and altered the game code of the 1997 files? And then they went to your house and took your CD and gave you a new one that’s completely ruined?? Omg I can’t believe Square would do that! Touch grass
Trash that’s got a 92 on Metacritic. Right. Hey, at least you posted something in the internet that made you feel smart. Give your mom a call and let her know how smart you are.
I’m gonna say NO to the end of Aerith. It really does not make any sense to remove her permanently when she asa cetra is a protector of the planet. Not like Sephiroth, the planet is relying on her presence. It just does not make any sense to permanently kill Aerith in the same sense as Sephiroth
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Red Xiii, on his date, wonders if they will end up forgetting all about the whispers. I predict that, whatever happens, at the end the party will only remember the things that happen in OG FFVII, making both games the same story
Well it depends on what whispers. Cause it seems like aerith controls the white whispers while sephiroth controls the dark whispers
but what about my memories? I demand my memory be erased as well from this shstain of a final fantasy fanfic
@@dshearwf you can always decide what is canon and what is not. Become the whisper yourself...
As long as I get my shirtless Sephiroth final boss fight, I will be happy 😍
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I would like to believe the Sephiroth in the other world, the calm one, 7 seconds to the end. I think he will be the one who will take off his jacket and fight Cloud.
period 😭
A proper one on one duel between a shirtless Sephiroth and Cloud. Instead of just a one hit fight.
He can't do that anymore as he underestimated Cloud in his own words. I think an Omni-Aerith might just do an Ultima Amoura Breach or something and makes sure he is shirtless before he dies.
If part 3 ever comes out, this "Reimagined" trilogy, Chadley will merge with Sephy creating the ultimate endboss, Chadleyroth. Its the ONLY way this can go down
No they will become the Chadest of all Sephiroth, Chadfiroth.
Lol
Not true, Sephiroth was actually getting intel for Chadley.
Remake trilogy definitely is a sequel. Traveling to other worlds and timelines is pretty common in FF games. Gilgamesh does it, and he's in Rebirth.
Yeah that was kinda funny ngl
Wasn't Geostigma cured at the end of Advent Children?
It was yes.
Final boss fight could have Cloud's buster sword slotted with both the black and white materia in the two slots making him ultra powerful. I'm thinking Cloud is going to get Sephiroth, Jenova, and the Gi tribe all to the edge of creation and summon both holy and meteor to obliterate them once and for all ~ It'll look like a self-sacrifice, but Aerith will pull him through one of her weird lifestream/multiverse portals at the last second, saving Cloud.
At that point in the game there won’t be any multiverse bs…. Everyone is relying too heavily on that.
At last i found someone who in 10 freaking minutes REALLY GETS what this trilogy is. It's the end of the FF7 Compilation... Amazing video! This Remake project is a dream come true for me as an OG FF7 Fan...
Besides Max Dood lmao he's the Wikipedia of FF7 Lore
That’s what I’m saying. This is gonna be the swan song to the timeline of FF7. I think of it kinda like the evangelion rebuild movies if your familiar with them
Max is the goat fr
I like you're prediction that Sephiroth will permanently die in this iteration.
I also agree that filling up the clear material will be present.
The only aspect I'd like to change is Aerith's death. Yes one version of her died (main world, Beagle Stamp dog breed) but it would be even more depressing if all versions of her ceased to exist. You have to remember how Cloud was in Advent Children, he was totally wrecked emotionally... On top of that this Cloud still believes (main) Aerith is swell so it'll be real interesting to see how Cloud we be throughout the 3rd FF7R game and I personally don't want Cloud to suffer again like that. There might be another way.
Fun discussion.
I think so to. I think it was even implied in the dream date that sephiroth was going around and killing all the aerith sin all the timelines. But yeah 100% I think that this game will be a good ending. But cloud will have to go through everything he went through in the OG first
Omni Aerith sacrificing herself to take Omni Sephiroth out with him by unlocking Cloud’s Omni slash
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That is my problem with Zack after og ff7. He is supposed to put over Cloud. And you suggest for him to help Tifa in the lifestream? Any of Zacks actions take away from the living characters who should do them.
I don't want Zack anywhere near the events of og ff7, The thought of him helping tifa in the lifestream sequence is just gross lool.
smh these ppl prolly dont even remember from whom Cloud got his sword. The lifestream section was mainly to mend cloud's fractured memories, and zack definitely should take part in it. I'd argue aerith is also gon be there to fill the missing part of FF7rebirth ending
@@dsx4AI No he shouldn’t loool. Zack giving cloud the sword and telling him he’s his living legacy doesn’t even mean anything if he’s just alive helping cloud find his real self 😭
I want Zack to die a horrible death in chapter 1 of part 3.
@@harry5384 but zack is alr DEAD. What do you think lifestream is? it's where all the dead ppl return to.
If he's alive, how did he give cloud his sword? what kind of logic do you ppl even have?
Zack in lifestream sequence makes more sense than putting him in missable hidden cutscene like in OG FF7
Interesting prediction. Although, didn’t the devs say Advent Children is still cannon in the remake trilogy?
they said it will "link up with" AC. that's to say, AC can still be a prequel to Remake
I can. But in the timeline we are in. It hasn’t happens yet so I’m convinced the whole point of remake is to prevent advent children from ever happening
@@shaulov10 well well. That’s even more interesting.
Cloud goes through a White Portal in the ancient City. He is Not crazy, He is in between two worlds like in the end of remake
You have to remember that Omni Nomura is behind the project. This will be confusing through and through.
Im still holding onto the theory that the Sephiroth we follow in OG is actually the cloud we play as in the remake setting things in the correct course
Sephiroth will not be killed without redemption...without meeting his real mother, Lucrezia and learn the truth of his birth.
Omni Aerith's death is unlikely, unless there is a multiple ending option. She already sacrificed herself once. She deserves to live...perhaps without memories of Cloud and the others...Again, her dying feels like hope dying. She also can't be forgotten, though her omniscient self will likely end, I believe she will become a normal human, no longer a Cetra...Perhaps someone sacrificing themselves for HER for a change ( Either Cloud or Zack)
I also vouch for Hojo being the true villain of the game and want to see Glenn Lodbrok's deal unfold. That guy is intriguing.
I don’t think aerith will live. Her death is one of the most important moments in the OG and her being alive would go against the whole theme of loss that the game is about
@@shaulov10 I think the main theme of the game is transcendence and breaking the cycle..,not loss. It comes at a cost, but for the creators, whom like you said, feel they need to conclude the story properly - must bring (Or transform) the sense of painful yearning that originally provided us with meaning as fans of the game to an end.
Again, in order for the body to heal, the wound must be cleansed...First and foremost by adderssing the suffering of the main antagonist, which will also alleviate the need for the main sacrifice to take place is it will no longer be necessary for the planet to follow the dictates of destiny - create weapons and muster its efforts by exploiting the cycle of life and death to "fix history", perpetuating the suffering of inncoents... which, as the plot suggests is a delusional projection of madmen seeking power, not the will of the lifestream
("He will say he will do anything to save the planet, but it is not how it was meant to be" - Aerith )
In order for Aerith to ascend over Jenova, she must become Cloud's (and ours) permanent source of light that can only be extinguished when all of mankind will finally perish, and not before. Her death has meaning only if Sephiroth's hate for Cloud remains. Cloud cannot kill Sephiroth feeling guilty and confused...Hence Glenn☺
We need to know why Cloud was so strong he tossed Sephiroth around like a ragdoll that emasculated him so much, he literally created the plot of FF7 as a coping mechanism. So long as the source of his strength are the S Cells in his body Aerith will stay dead. Advent Children sort of, kind of resolved this issue by having Cloud accept her death...but then again what's the point behind "the sequel theory" if that's the case :/
The theme of loss is recurrent in every FF title, lol...But when the maiden defies destiny, becoming a fighter, she can make her dreams come true. (Moral of the story in FFX for example) why not have something similar happen here? It's still Final Fantasy, not Final Reality. Sorry for the spam.
I was with you until you said Geo Stigma ended the human race. 1. That’s an interpretation that’s never been confirmed (Not to mention, they make a point to have children laughing after the final scene). It’s intentionally ambiguous, and if you’re referring to the quote from 2005… that was years after the original game was completed, and they were retroactively creating a narrative that Sephiroth lives on. Red and his children are seen looking at an abandoned Midgar, simply implying that the earth has taken back over the industry which robbed the lifestream. 2. The Geo Stigma is cured at the end of AC thanks to Aerith and Zack? So to say Geo Stigma alone “ended” humankind is just a theory that IMO doesn’t hold much weight.
Personally, I think it will be a lot more clean. Since the “singularity” happened at the end of Remake, we’re dealing with 1-2 universes at most.
Zack may or may not join the party, but eventually he will accept his fate in that he needs to be with Aerith to support her when Holy is struggling to work.
There’s too many beats that people are looking forward to that they wouldn’t shake up. I’m sure the final fight will be a convoluted, trippy Kingdom Hearts-esque mess - but ultimately it will come down to Sephiroth being defeated in a more permanent way, and Holy stopping meteor.
Thank you for bringing attention to the laughing children at the end of the OG ending. Too many people overlook that, as well as interpret an abandoned Midgar as some indication that all of humanity is gone. I’ve always believed it to mean-ever since beating the game as a 12 year old in 1998-that humanity learned to co-exist with the Planet rather than just live “on” it and that the ruins of Midgar showed they kept their promise to no longer abuse it. The greenery and Nanaki’s cubs are signs of new life, and there wouldn’t be new life if Mako energy was still relied on as it was prior to the events of the game.
@@GuiltyGaming No worries at all and I agree with 95% of your video. I think people are overthinking this, which is the intended reaction Square wanted, but I seriously doubt the ending of Part 3 will be that wildly different from the original game.
It's the double edged sword of expanding a unvierse with more "lore." At what point do you lose the message of the original content by trying to create so much fan service in additional content? Like you, I beat the original game when I was a kid (although I didn't beat it until 2001 haha) and I've been pleasantly surprised by how faithful the games have been so far. Some of the "multiverse" stuff is convoluted, but when I ask myself, "What's really different?" -- the answer is, not much.
Aerith seemingly has been killed in the main timeline that we have been playing in, but either she's projecting herself in Cloud's mind to protect him (for her own reasons, I assume), or she can still communicate with Cloud in some way...but Sephiroth is the one projecting her to hold Cloud's mental health together until he gives the black materia to him in the North Crater.
Zack is seemingly alive as well, but as you said -- I think these games are "sequels" to the original game + Advent Children. And the theme of loss, sacrifice, and grieving are far too large in the original for Zack to just alter fate that much. One way or another, I see him joining Aerith in the afterlife/lifestream in part 3. It will also be a gut wrenching loss, perhaps one that Cloud sees wide awake which makes it that much more gut wrenching.
But at the end of the day, for all the tinkering Nomura is doing with the timeline stuff, I think he too respects the original lore. It's like taking a fully completed puzzle, throwing it into the air and seeing pieces break apart, but ultimately falling back in place (or mostly in place) as it was before.
@@AirshipOverWater Oh I’m not the OP-just commenting. Though I also agree that Remake, etc. are sequels, too.
@@GuiltyGaming whoops lol. Well still I agree with the original user’s take on a lot of things, and yours as well.
Like in the original (when you lose Aerith), the ending to Rebirth left me shocked, confused, saddened, angry - but there was some acceptance after a few days. I think we’ll fully see how broken Cloud is in part 3, and when he accepts that she’s gone (and he’s been living in denial this whole time), his spiral into Mako poisoning will be 10x worse
I don't think the White Materia will be filled with Clouds memories:
Whilst replaying Cosmo Canyon I listened again to the Gi's descriptions of the Black Materia
"From the Planet we claimed the greatest of Materia - a most sacred treasure - and imbued it with our desire for freedom"
"The purest Materia made black by spite"
Implying the Black Materia began as white & they are unique from other Materia as they hold hopes & dreams.
Supported by the famous Cosmo Canyon NPC quote:
"Spiritual energy is a manifestation of our knowledge & memories - What about our Hopes & Dreams, we remember those don't we?
Its contents were hidden "between worlds" - the same location as the Dream Worlds we visit.
We have an empty White Materia, and appear to have seen a glimpse of a dream of a world where Cloud parried the blade. I think it is highly likely we will experience the continuation of that dream as a major portion of part 3 and that it will eventually occupy or be drawn into that empty Materia.
2 orbs, a dream of Optimism and a dream of Pessimism.
It’s funny that Square famously received a petition to resurrect Aerith. The “hopes and dreams” of the fan base. They will not compromise the story or its themes to do so, but within the context of its world, they may just show us a dream of what that is.
That’s interesting. But I feel like again. Once we get to that lifestream sequence. Cloud is gonna have to face some truths. That’s where I believe we’re gonna see the real events of what happened at the capital. And once cloud knows the whole truth his hopes and dreams and memories will fill the white material. It just makes too much sense
I agree on the importance of that scene. It is central to Clouds character development.
I think it would be a good place to explore the Death of Aerith, however I think the truth of her death may have been revealed to him on his first visit to the northern cave before he hands over the black materia.
Cloud will discover that he was never in SOLDIER and that he failed to save his friend.
Sephiorth will ask Cloud to lend him his strength again to begin uniting the worlds.
He will have extra leverage this time as parrying his blade created a dream world in which Aerith survived. He will offer us a chance of all being together again if we help him.
Cloud and by extension the player will say yes, agreeing to help him, thereby rejecting death.
@@shaulov10 In addition to the handing over of the black Materia scene, we may explore her death scene further in the "Lifestream Scene" and or in the "Projector Scene" upon re-visiting the city of the ancients.
@@shaulov10 I concede that filling the materia with his memories may be an interesting way of saying that its power comes from his acceptance of her death.
Tying in with the theme of the game.
I however think that their goal / statement runs a bit deeper than that.
I kinda wonder something. Maybe getting rid of Sephiroth for good isn't about erasing him. I feel like there's foreshadowing to what COULD happen.
In Advent Children, Kadaj, an aspect of Sephiroth, let go of his hatred, and took Aerith's hand. Thus, peacefully going into the lifestream.
In Ever Crisis, Sephiroth realizes the cycle of hatred, and how hatred only begets hatred.
And, as you said, Sephiroth is clinging onto life because of his unending hatred.
So.... Does that mean to get rid of him for good, he'd have to let go of all that anger? Or, alternatively. He clings onto life also via memories of him. And Cloud is an anchor for him.... Cloud might be the one to die in that case. (God I hope not.... But, knowing Nomura and the others. It wouldn't surprise me.)
The way I see it. Is that the OG ff7 was the bad ending. And what I feel is that OG ff7 is gonna be us a good ending. Maybe they don’t have to kill sephiroth but maybe they need to kill jenova. But idk. I still think sephiroth needs to die so that advent children never happens
Omni Sephiroth is such a great name of a new form for the final boss
@@charleskone1446 shout out to Maximiliandood for coming up with that
That "bye-bye" at the end 😭💀
This entire game takes place in the ending of the OG game right before sephiroths last stand. Its sephiroth trying to last minute take control of cloud before his shirtless self dies.
to defeat that sephiroth , we need to make sure to fire all those in charged of FF7 right now. The only way
i would be fine with this theory honestly
great video and theory 😊
I think they touched on this a bit at Cosmo Canyon regarding the spirits there that wanted the black materia to end their experience because they are not native to the planet. This will also factor in I believe with Sephiroth.
Clouds mind is not gone.
Cloud sees two different worlds...one that is his reality and then another one on top of that.
In the last moment when he blocked sephiroth's sword attack directed at Aerith, we saw the rainbow effect again this means a NEW WORLD was created.
( like Sephiroth explained to Cloud, that *The Planet encompasses a multitude of worlds, ever unfolding* )
This means a new world was created , one where Aerith survived the Sword attack and then our current reality where Aerith died.
So Clouds mind is not gone aside from the fact that Sephiroth can control him sometimes. ( like in the original )
But in terms what he sees..he simply sees his reality and then another world on top of that.
I don't think it's a sequel. No actual travelling has taken place by Sephiroth or Aerith. They're just aware of the multiverse and potentially some future events afforded to them both via the planet/lifestream.
That said, what Sephiroth says to Cloud in Remake makes me think differently. "You need not remind me, it was the crowning moment of our time together."
too complicated... why all this timeline & time travel.... we only want final fantasy 7 experience...
I think people expecting closure at the end of the 3rd game are setting themselves up for disappointment. Not saying it’s gonna be a bad ending, but I think the devs will want to leave stuff up for interpretation. Might rub some people the wrong way if it happens but it’s what I’m expecting. Maybe we’ll get a definitive answer to Sephiroth’s fate but other things will be left up for the fans to theorize and decide for themselves.
I wouldn't be surprised if the final cutscene goes back to Aerith looking into the Mako pipe. Leaving the player to assume that at this moment Aerith becomes aware of the entire future. I always wondered why Aerith got startled when she stood up. Perhaps it's because she knows about Sephiroth and the Whispers?
I'm not a fan of Remake's direction of changing the original with a multiverse plot but by analyzing the type of stories the writers do in their work and everything i think that Part 3 will end up with erasing Jenova.
I think it will be something similiar to JoJo's Bizarre Adventures Part 6 where they just erase the main villain from existence and it resets the timeline
They will use that blank materia to make JENOVA as just a memory after destroying them then them as memories will also be destroyed and the universes will fuse or something like that
This will reset the entirety of FF7 timeline creating a world where JENOVA never existed, with that FF7 story would naturally progress with Zack, Sephiroth and Cloud eventually defeating Shinra and Hojo, or Sephiroth could also just not exist in this timeline like Pucci in JoJo.
Alternatively, there will be a similiar thing with making Sephiroth/Jenova be "just a memory" through the blank materia, we were show with Rebirth that you can erase memories with materia so... Thus making them never return ever again and somehow get rid of JENOVA cells in Cloud, this would probably require some sort of sacrifice from Aerith and the alternative Zack.
Personally, I would prefer the Remake to simply be the original story without all this KH bs in the middle, but i think that whatever they are planning to it's something like what i suggested or just giving a happy ever after ending to FF7 where everyone will get their good ending.
Edit: There is also the possibility and honestly the most possible one that it won't be too different from the original ending but with more spectacle and convoluted stuff in the middle that will lead to Sephiroth never coming back and probably Zack and Aerith giving a final farewell to Cloud and the fans.
where it says that only the cetra can use the white material ?
@@calebperez2084 im pretty sure aerith says it in the first game
@@shaulov10 i never hear Aerith say that, not even in any of the novels, that only the cetra can use a white materia and even if that's the case, why can they be the only ones to use the materia
Nomura loves bad endings no way he is gonna let this one end good
Maybe deleting sephiroth from the life stream will remove him from all timelines for without needing to end the other timelines.
I really like your theory.
Here are my thoughts on this ending. IF Seph is going to be completely destroyed…the thing that is keeping him in the lifestream and being able to be reborn is the Jenova cells in him. Things not of Gaia cannot return to her. So…that means the Jenova cells would need to be REMOVED and THEN destroyed…but by that logic…that means curtains for both Zack and Cloud…not to mention Rufus and whoever else had Jevona cells in them.
I also think since Cloud literally not only remembered Zack ON HIS OWN (which was maybe the most shocking part of this entire game for me personally) but he also fought alongside him live and in person. So for me that makes me certain that the life stream sequence in FF7 Reborn (definitely the third games title based in the name of the One Winged Angel track in Rebirth) will almost certainly mainly revolve around cloud being forced to realize that he did not save Aerith (it’s the only other thing in this story that is dramatic enough to also break clouds brain).
Oh dang yeah I completely forgot about jenova. Well I think a way they can remove jenova is again, with the white material. Where the Newley powered ones can purify the body and cleanse all jenova cells.
Now for the lifestream sequence. I still think it’s gonna be about cloud realizing his Zach is dead. Cause he still doesn’t know what really happened. And I also do believe he will find out that aerith is really dead.
@@shaulov10I’m telling you, the Zack thing is almost definitely NOT going to be the lifestream moment anymore. It doesn’t make any sense. He didn’t even know Zack existed in the OG up until that point and it broke him.
He just fought alongside him. It’s gonna be Aerith focused. And then we are going to assume control of Zack as the main character until cloud is well again. It’s clear to me that Zack was yeeted into our player timeline at the end of Rebirth.
I don’t think the white materia is going to cleanse Jenova because that would have already happened back when she first crash landed on Gaia.
We have a working and full white materia in our timeline from Omni Aerith.
I love these videos crafting theories! But I really don’t think the White Materia is capable of cleansing Jenova.
But honestly…with this third game that the devs have stated is going to be very different…WHO KNOWS
@@SnowCoveredKK your missing the point. Cloud still thinks that He was in zacks place 5 years ago. Realizing he wasn’t was the breaking point. Yeah he remembered Zack but he still thinks he was in his place 5 years ago.
@@SnowCoveredKK they've completely destroyed tifas moments then?? not only does cloud remember Zack without her help but the lifestream sequence is all about aerith? thats insane what is the point of tifas character then?
Yeah, I think Cloud has to die to completely deal with Jenova.
what's with the sonic the hedgehog subliminal messaging at 2:21
I don’t think this will happen because it has already been confirmed that the remake trilogy will lead up to advant children
Well technically advent children already happend. Since this game is a sequel. But my thought is that the goal is to prevent advent children from happening in this new timeline
@@shaulov10 well it is possible that this could happen after advant children it has still been confirmed by Tetsuya Nomura that the ff7 remake trilogy will lead up to the events of advant children. The goal could be to prevent advant but because it is already confirmed to also happen after the games cloud and the others would fail in doing so. While I do believe many parts of this theory would be true it is simply not possible for the party to stop Advent children.
At the end of the day all of these games are all just one big remake. And while there might be some slight small additions to the plot, like with Wuti in part 3 the main story of FF7 will remain the same as the original. The only thing to theorize about is what the fuck is happening with Zack.
2:22 why is there a split second of sonic the hedgehog 😂😂
Cause it has so much ambition
It will end with a new oc appearing, sephichu
@@NoNamex1412 nah bro was being serious
@@shaulov10A new horizon is here. We're in the sonichu arc now
Plot twist Sephiroth is never born after they get rid of him... Instead of 500 years later it's back to Nibelheim 5 years ago it's Zack, Cloud and...
Angeal.
GET THIS BUM ANGEAL OUTTA HERE
@@shaulov10 it leaves one's mind to speculation about an Aerith-Zack and Cloud-Tifa happy ending. The planet too. You see? 😊
when pt 3 reveals that there was never any timelines >>
Bro really said FF7 is Nomura’s baby. 😂
@@peterk.m58 it’s either that or kingdom hearts
@@shaulov10Seems like everyone forgot who Hironobu Sakaguchi is and OG FF7 is Sakaguchi’s baby. Nomura didn’t have a directorial debut until FF8. But if you wanna be technical, (FF7: Remake Trilogy) is Nomura’s baby.
Such a nice video, keep it up !
I actually think you're correct.
I hope they don't ☠️ off sephiroth, but instead he be returned to a timeline where he can be happy. Like have Vincent keep lucrecia and get rid of hojo.
Really good theory brotha, i could actually see Zack being the ultimate sacrifice so that Sephiroth is ofiicially gone. Maybe thats why he was brought back.
This sounds like a plagiarism of predictions from Maxamillion dude
@@leviticus6105 I mean I’ve openly said in past vids some of my ideas came from watching max. He has a really good understanding of the series so I try to build off what he has said and make my own thing. But im pretty sure that he’s never said that sephiroth needs to die.
You know who else?
☹️
Your mom ? Haha, funny...
Yeah that doesn’t make sense…
I think the real problem is the jenova cells inside sephiroth. Not his human part. I think all existence of jenova will be completed removed from the planet along with the gi. Will that mean Cloud will disappear with Zach and aerith? Maybe. Just like the Gi, she can’t just die, because she’s not from the planet. So long as her cells are part of a beings structure, they can’t properly die… I think. Maybe the black materia will be used along with the white materia to turn on sephiroth and jenova. Not sure how, but it would kind of work. Using jenova and sephiroths anger against them.
I believe Cloud is dying and returning to the life stream. Cloud is fightinf tbe last remnants of Jenova Cells within himself. The Hero Sephiroth in Remake asjed for Clouds help to defy destiny. I think its Sephiroths last chance for redemption and he is asking Cloud to help end Jenova who I think manipulated Sephiroth after a Traumatic event. I believe Aeris (original Aerith) is fighting from within the lifestream. I believe Aerith may have been killed by Cloud who was manipulated into believing he was striking Masamune when in reality it was him killing Aerith. Aeris says "I see what you did back there." Because she found out by watching the memory unfold as Cloud is dying and its his memories that Jenova is trying to manipulate in order to break Clouds spirit. If she does she could presumably make OmniCloud and All the characters, Zack, Sephiroth, Tifa, Aerith, Barrett, Yuffie, Cid, Vincent, Cait Sith, The Turks... i believe they will all fight to bring Cloud back from Jenova seperating the Cells and then we get Jenova Final Form and have Cloud, Sephiroth, Zack team up to finally end Jenova. I think this will also kill Sephiroth, but he will have known and accepted this fate, never being just a memory... he would be a legend. Cloud finally after ending Jenova arrives in a bed of flowers at the church, waking up to everyone around him including Zack and Aerith, who Zack now knowing Aerith has true feelings for cloud gives his blessing and maybe a hint at a Tifa interest? Just for a cherry on top, I hope it ends with a Bustersword being put in the ground over midgars ruins, we get an older Denzil and Marlene holding it, with Marlene telling Denzil, "Cloud did it! He made it to the promised land." Because everyone talks cloud and big future, we forget Marlene knows things she shouldnt. Thats my theory
Thing is if Aerith really did die, then they’re now sending a tremendously toxic, fatalistic message. Even when you know the future and want to change it , you are completely powerless against tragedy. That’d be one of the most profoundly toxic messages I’ve ever seen in fiction, and from that alone, I have faith that Aerith will be okay.
Thing is Aerith has to die in order for them to win. Hence why the timeline where Sephiroth won was also a timeline where she lived. Her death is more than just a tragedy and honestly if they were going to keep her alive then they would have done the same to Zack. What they are looney going to do with that Aerith ghost is have her try and fail to help Cloud after he falls into the lifestream.
Your right about Sephiroth, but wrong about Aerith. Zack is going to fix Clouds mind and he is going to save the sleeping Aerith. That will be part of the" happy ending " and they will defeat Jenova completely.
You mean FAN FIC VII?
Not a fan fic with the original developers involved!
@@FVD full of that BS of time travel, parallel universe, different timeline and schrödinger’s Aeris? Yes it is.
@@elChirrinChirriondelDiablo well agree to disagree, bud. As far as I am concerned, it cannot be a fan fic when the same personnel are involved. Just doesn't make sense.
@@FVD and that’s what make it even worse, with a lot of the original staff they did a terrible job, with inconsistencies, rip offs of future events and bad writing that’s why I call it a fan fic.
Sephiroth is iconic villain like Darth Vader.
Wow "bro" idk you were working on the game to know how it all ends 😅
Trust bro my uncle is Nomura
@shaulov10 sure thing kid
im gonna riot if in part 3 we get a mandatory cloti kiss scene! if only the remake continuity could have saved aerith's life liek it did with zack!
This is not a recap.
1. "Cloud's mind is all messed up.", meaning you need an excuse to discredit Cloud so you can pretend Aerith is dead. Cloud said "I got this."
2. "Nobody trusts him.", meaning you want to believe there's conflict, when there isn't.
3. "Aerith is probably dead", meaning you watched Zack being alive for the 11th time but still refuse to believe Aerith is alive, like a lot of other annoying RUclipsrs.
Here is a *recap*.
1. Cissnei feels Zack is still alive.
2. Cait Sith foreshadowed, "I don't know if Sephiroth is alive, dead, or something in between..."
3. Jesse's dad is "stuck between worlds"
4. Red XIII "died" in the intro, in Terrier, which shows that dying in one "world" doesn't mean a real death. These other worlds have puppets. Another example of this is when Cloud killed soldiers in the Temple, who then "resurrected" as monsters. In short, they didn't die.
5. Aerith now appears to only Cloud, just as Sephiroth repeatedly has, but she physically exists in a separate space.
6. Shinra didn't rebuild Nibelheim, because it never burned. Fake disaster, just like every other disaster Jenova/Seph causes.
When I take issue with here, is you stating that the originals ending was “the bad ending”. That is just a fundamental misunderstanding of what the original ending is trying to tell you. It is a happy ending. The earth has reclaimed what was diluted by man which was the main theme of the game! Saying that is a bad ending that should be avoided is insane to me because that is the whole theme!
@@mastersword648 I mean. I don’t mean the OG game itself was a bad ending. But the original timeline is a bad ending. I mean even after ff7 ends. Sephiroth comes back and causes geostigma. And by the time of derge of Cerberus. Like all of midgar is destroyed. That’s not the best ending in the world
@@shaulov10 maybe in the continuation it became one, but I don’t think the intention of the ending was meant to be a downer or a bleak ending to the story. When analyzing the narrative beats and themes of the original, the ending is a positive end. So having the remake trilogy end by saying “that ending? that was a bad ending for the characters and was a big bummer, why don’t we fix that?” is inherently, calling the original a problem that needs to be fixed when it isn’t.
I no longer care.
The OG ending was bad because people don’t live to 500?
@@justinvalentine2950 I mean not only that. But advent children was a pretty bad thing to happen with geostigma and all of that
Nah.
Enjoy how they ruined one of the best jrpgs' stories. 🤬
I fail to see how they ruined it
It's a remake. Not a remaster. Idk why ppl can't comprehend this concept.
Omg they ruined it? They went back and altered the game code of the 1997 files? And then they went to your house and took your CD and gave you a new one that’s completely ruined?? Omg I can’t believe Square would do that!
Touch grass
Seriously, STFU. Nothing about this game is “Ruined”. If you think so don’t play the next installment.
Imagine if they just made a new game instead of this trash lol
Trash that’s got a 92 on Metacritic. Right. Hey, at least you posted something in the internet that made you feel smart. Give your mom a call and let her know how smart you are.
I’m gonna say NO to the end of Aerith. It really does not make any sense to remove her permanently when she asa cetra is a protector of the planet. Not like Sephiroth, the planet is relying on her presence. It just does not make any sense to permanently kill Aerith in the same sense as Sephiroth
WTF WHY ISN’t RUclips showing this video
Bro RUclips don’t like pushing out my ff7 content 😭
Sorry I am late