Removing Brake Drums, The "Easy" Way - Eric The Car Guy
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2010
- Removing Brake Drums, The "Easy" Way - Eric The Car Guy
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Here is a little quick tip that I plan to post as a response to the brake shoe replacement video, my hope is this will save some broken studs and help some of those that have requested this very procedure. I hope this helps some of you with this PITA issue.
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This works IF there are actually threaded holes in the drums.
93sundance if not make some ;)
oof, good luck tapping cast iron!
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You're right man. The best thing to do if you work on enough brake jobs is spend $100 and get an OTC 6980 rotor and drum puller.
Damn I was just about to drill a couple 😔
A good tip is to put your lug nuts back onto the studs before you hit it with a hammer. That way if you tag a stud, it's protected by the lug nut.
@compaqs88 Thanks for your input and your comment. I also had someone suggest that you put the wheel back on loosely and move it around to knock the drum loose, I haven't tried it yet but it might save someone from killing a stud.
@Therium007 Yes domestics don't often have those holes a swift hit with a hammer between the studs is the standard method of removal in that case. The noise was most likely caused by the brake dust which builds up over time. I include a clean and adjust of the rear brakes during a service for this very reason.
LMAO the sucking sound off to the distance killed me
VexingCode It's not that big of a deal. On most those studs can be pressed or hammered out and a replacement stud costing only $3 can be put in its place. Sometimes you have to pull the bearing first which can be a little extra work but it's just a matter of elbow grease, not hard to get to or anything.
Stinky Cheese its generally a pain to get it out if you break it and it just creates one more problem
Dylan G
It's not a bad deal at all, Just take a large hammer and beat it out. This is one of the easier things to fix if you just do it right.
Depends on how long its been on it
If i had to fix mine it wouldn't be easy because its been on it for half a century
For those who didn't find the srews at tha hardware store(or they dont't want to waste time).On my honda civic 2001 I had the same on the exhaust manifold cover.Just took them off and then put back again. You probably have them on your cars
@3RNGR75 I'm glad I was able to offer some help, thanks for the comment.
@DynamicUnreality I love it when a plan comes together.
8 x 1.25 NOW you tell me!! thanks. I had to try every metric bolt I had till I found it.
Just FYI, if the studs are simple to replace when the drum is removed from your rear brakes, simply knock all of the studs through with a hammer and the drum should easily come free. I have done this numerous times. Even on an old 70 pickup that was seized together. Once i knocked the studs through it was like melted butter lol. (leave the lug half on the stud and put a socket on the end and hit it, instead of the stud itself ,so you wont damage the threads or head of the stud. To possibly reuse if the spline is not damaged on on the head of the stud.
Thanks God Bless
@dupitron Congratulations! One of the best parts of being me is getting comments like this where I actually helped someone. It makes my day really, thanks.
@cantstopmyADD That is an excellent suggestion however on some models it's not possible as there is no access to the adjuster. The next time that happens try cutting the heads off of the hold down pins before removing the drum as it will allow the shoes to rotate so the drum can be removed, hardware kits are cheep and the time this will buy will save you a lot of effort.
That's too easy Eric! When I did this, the process broke the rusted shoe holding pins (That's OK and actually necessary), but then the drum pulled the shoes with it on the way off--bending the shoes outward and disfigured/bent the adjusting rod at the top (Lucky I did not damage the brake cylinder). The adjusting rod is no longer available for my older vehicle, so I had to straighten it in a vise and this was very difficult because you have to hold the threaded end of its yoke in the vise--thus slightly damaging the threads, which is a no no. Punch Line: I took it to a shop and paid Big bucks!! If you do this process, drill out the holding pins on the back plate first and also remove the 2 brake cylinder bolts and pray---or so shown on youtube--I now see.
DOLRED you went too fast
What if there are no threated holes for bolts in the face of the drum???
Well you're just S.O.L😁
@mrLETHALDOMESTICS I'm glad you like my work, thanks for the comment.
@BASS01100 Helping people is what I do and hearing about how I helped someone is one of my favorite things. Thanks for the comment.
my drums don't have those dammit.
and make sure the emergency brake is off
@StratusCams Yes damage can result in 'severe' situations but to be honest at that point you should probably replace them anyway and if they are a know problem I would machine them on the car to avoid having to deal with that until they didn't have enough meat and needed to be replaced. Thanks for the comment.
@Michiganborn1969 The next time you run into that all you have to do is cut the "nail" heads that go to the shoe hold downs on the backing plate. Use the 2 bolt method to pull the drums off. You will have to get a "hardware" kit to replace the pins you cut but this is minor compared to the damage that can be caused by your friends method.
this is why I love Japanese cars
Sonowske Mine is Mitsubishi USA
can anybody give me 2 hours of my life back?
yes, its possible, all it takes is something that would take you two hours that some one could do nearly instantaneously
Can anybody give me 7 hours of my life back?
@dseries16 This video is actually posted as a response to the "Replacing Drum Brake" video that I did where I used the 'hammer' method to get the drums off. I had a lot of questions on how to remove the drums more easily so I made this video. Thanks for your comment and your input.
@opiate2L Careful doing that as you can damage the drum doing that but I'm glad you got it worked out. Thanks for the comment.
What holes?
Mine also has no holes :(
2007 ford focus
Honda accord drums have those holes.
yea you start out tapping it with a hammer. then when it dont move you start beating the shit out of it . thats where the term hammer mechanic comes from.
Youbetter Backoff never heard that term 🤔 asked around and nobody I asked heard of that either
@JohninVa1 Glad the video helped, thanks for the comment.
@davegto67 Glad I could offer the tip, thanks for the comment.
90% of cars don't have holes
Thats right
wish my drums had those holes... would make my job a LOT easier.
+Mason Holloway Ya but some times if your brake shoes hang up on the drum and you keep pulling, you break hardware. Can easily be avoided if you unwind adjuster from the back if you can.
Very true. I see where you're coming from. I chipped my shoes a couple times because I was too rough with it while pulling the drum off.
@tad562 I said if you can. Its pretty rare to not have an access hole to get at the adjuster. Sometimes you have no choice but to remove everything in pieces.
@incawarrior68 Glad you liked it, easy is always the best way to go in my opinion, thanks for your comment.
@jialunjiao That's a tough one for sure. You may need to do the old hammer between the studs for a while to break things loose, I don't like to resort to heat but you may have no choice in the end. You might also try disconnecting the parking brake as that may be the root cause. Good luck.
@wely911 I'm happy to help, thanks for the comment.
@BlueSpook1 Glad you liked it, thanks for the comment.
@TheClifford777 Glad you liked it, thanks for your comment.
@NightIIIJester Your most welcome, thanks for taking the time to post your comment.
Great tip. FYI for anyone working on older cars- I had a 1965 buick where the drums were so worn that the shoes left a groove in the drums. This created a lip on the drums and the brake shoes "self-adjusted" outward so they caught on the lip when I tried to remove them, no matter how hard I banged or even with a drum puller. Someone tipped me to the break adjustment hole on the brake/wheel hub which allowed the break shoes to close up.
Was that hole on the reverse side
@tribulu It's covered in the other brake shoe replacement videos that I've done, you pretty much hit the drum face between the studs to knock it loose.
Eric, thank you so much for the tip. I looked at the bolt holding my spare tire down on my 2005 Scion, and matched that thread with a couple bolts I had laying around and they fit into the hub perfectly and popped off the hub just like you said.
@MisterGiver Your welcome, thanks for the comment.
Eric, your videos have helped me and my wallet alot. After watching this one I was able to complete the entire job in about 30 mins. Your the Man! Thx.
@davehart Glad to help, thanks for the comment.
@dupitron I like your optimism. Thanks for the great comment and good luck.
@supercellman It's not that I forgot to mention it as you obviously wont' be able to do this without those holes. No worries though because the most common method is to hit the drum between the studs till it comes loose. There is also a special tool called a drum puller that you might be able to borrow from the auto parts store.
@nerdlinger2 I'll start by saying that sometimes cheep parts can screw you so if that is the case you might want to machine your front rotors even if they are new. If your parking brake is inop it would be difficult to isolate if the vibration is coming from front or rear but if you suspect the drums are out of round then you should have them machined as you will not be able to 'see' if they are warped.
@Denedil Getting comments like this is probably my favorite thing in the world since when I started ETCG this is exactly what I set out to do, help people with my little videos. Thanks for taking the time to comment, made my day.
@connerbobby Yes those will work on that car. That bearing is pretty easy so you won't have too much to deal with once you get the drum off, just remove the cap on the hub and then the nut underneath and your good to go. Good luck.
@jgizzy Glad to help, thanks for the comment.
@libertyshot1 As I told him the most common method is to hit the drum between the studs with a hammer till it breaks loose. They also make a special tool that will remove drums that you might be able to rent or borrow from the auto parts store. Good luck.
@honudakine Sounds like a wheel cylinder might be leaking, you can replace them without removing the shoes BTW. Thanks for your comment and good luck.
Thank you Eric! And I am glad that someone remembers that when referring to a specific quantity, a couple is defined as two. If someone lives in a place where a couple is three or four then their family structure is probably very strange. Awwwww, there goes a happy couple! lol.
Eric,
that was PURE genius! It worked like a charm! And I only used a socket set (no air impact wrench available). Once I got it off it was soo easy to get the hub assembly off. Thanks for everything and the quick reply. I feel like we should be paying you for this great advice! I love working on my car but sometimes I get stuck on certain things. Thanks again!
I want to say thank you for putting this up. my old man and I spent an hour and a half trying to get the drum off his rear passenger side( my stubbornness is from both my parents). When we tried it out, it came loose almost instantly! At that point we had to just walk away for a few minutes, he was pissed that he wasted so much time and I was pissed that I let him waste my time, not hitting him with the hammer instead of the drum and try this trick out immediately. I'm majorly face-palming right now. Again, thanks for the video.
@aodhfinn Glad the video helped, thanks for the comment.
@dd18614 I don't know if I recommend this mainly for the reason that you could damage the fastener using it in this way and not be able to put it back where you found it. Personally I would not use a fastener from the vehicle I was working on for this. Thanks for your comment though.
I watched this video about 8 years ago. I just purchased a used prius which the rear brakes are drum. finally time to use this tip lol Thanks Eric!
@thepopeis1 You might want to see if you can back off the adjuster as the shoes may be getting caught on a rust ridge on the inside of the drum. If you can't get to it or it won't work then I would cute the 'nail heads' off of the hold downs on the back of the backing plate to allow the shoes to pivot out when you remove the drum, you get new pins with a hardware kit.
@rhigh100 In fact I do, see if there is a rubber plug in the back you can remove to gain access to the adjuster, back the adjuster off as far as you can before trying to remove them. If the adjuster is frozen or you don't have access cut the 'nail heads' off of the hold downs and you should be able to get the drum off. You get new hold downs with a hardware kit which are normally very affordable.
@librarising79 I'm glad you got some use from it, thanks for the comment.
@workwithnature Try backing the adjuster all the way off before installing the drums. You might want to check out the videos I've done on replacing drum breaks for a more detailed look. Thanks for your comment.
@mss829 I did but I didn't make a video of it, I only mentioned it. You get a gold star for paying attention as well as a lolly pop. What color do you want?
@CrandMackerel Yea that's a good plan, thanks for the comment.
@goldenmc75 You sure can, that's a great idea BTW. However if you hit them off angle then you could still bend them and will need to replace them as a result.
@supersesqui It's not cast, it's steal so there really is little worry of that but I understand your concern. Thanks for your comment.
@TiMthisIS Your most welcome, I try to pick up where the manual leaves off. Thanks for the comment.
@SKYUPTIMBER I'm happy to have you, thanks for your comment and your viewership.
@TheChero6 That's a great tip, thanks for the comment.
Eric,
Keep them videos coming, can't wait for the next one to be out. Always good and very informative. Thanks!
@mooserman911 I covered that in the video this one is posted to. Between you and me however, some people can't swing a hammer that great so I thought I would try and save them some damaged studs.
@MrSan503 They have worked on all the drums I've tried it on. To be honest I mostly use a hammer to get drums off so I don't use this method all that often.
@hwhhww I've ben asked about that one more than once, I just don't have cause to replace them all that often really. When I do get one in I will defiantly make a video however. Thanks for your comment.
@fancynot Glad you stopped by to watch Mr ArtVideo. :) Thanks for the comment.
@TheChero6 I will and thank YOU for the comment.
@choisdarkness Don't use a torch, the best recommendation I can give you is to keep hitting and perhaps it will brake loose. Sometimes I hit it with a little penetrating oil and let it soak for a bit before I start hitting it again. Good luck.
@kurojin97 I love it when I'm able to help someone like this. Thanks for the comment.
@CrandMackerel Yea that is a good tip. Thanks for the comment.
@ORIONSG77 Your in luck, just yesterday I diagnosed a car with bad wheel cylinders and good shoes. When they come back to get it fixed I'm going to shoot video on replacing the wheel cylinders without removing the shoes (in fact this is the preferred method). I hope to also show how to get wheel cylinders off if the brake line is rusted to the fitting and won't spin without breaking the brake line. In short, yes you can.
@MrJed234 You can try hitting it with a hammer between the studs to knock it loose but a viewer pointed out a technique recently that I have yet to try and that is to reinstall the wheel with the lugs finger tight, wiggle the wheel around to help knock it loose. Let me know if this works if you try it.
@santinorudy Your welcome, thanks for the comment.
@greenfisch I love it! Thanks for the comment.
@SUPERBWON Excellent point, thanks for your input.
Eric, these videos are incredibly helpful. thanks for offering this to the DIYers like me.
Thanks Eric! Even the dumb Haynes manual fails to mention that you can even do this, much less give you the size of the needed bolt. Your 2 year old video is still saving time and effort!! Not to mention $$
@tepot5 Your most welcome, thanks for the comment.
@Holmanboyz I love you too, thanks for the comment.
@nightmathzombieethan Make sure the adjustment is backed all the way off, if not the shoes will come into contact with the new drum and it will be near impossible to get it on. Once you get it on, adjust the shoes accordingly to fit the new drum.
@METALGEARZETTO First car I ever worked on as a professional mechanic was a 72 240, that was a cool car but kind of a pain to work on sometimes, good luck.
@watertonrivers Not surprised, it has the classic formula, light car, big engine=go fast. Thanks for the comment.
@AxelTiger Many times the shoes get hung up on a ridge of rust on the inside of the drum so you need to back off the adjuster before removing the drum or the shoes will catch on the drum and make it difficult to remove.
@machine843 Good luck and thanks for the comment.
@MrOmkars That does sound like a bad day, sorry to hear about it but thanks for the comment.
@Bobbymitchell10 I hope they have the threaded holes, if not hit the drum between the studs with a hammer to knock it loose. You may have to back the adjuster off to get the drums off once they are loose though. Good luck.
@SalisaMark You might try the bolt trick straight off, it might save you some time. Good luck no matter what you try. Thanks for the comment.
@trunk516 Happens to me all the time, I love to learn new tricks. Thanks for the comment.
@MrPiwo This is really an amendment to the drum brake video. I had a lot of requests for how to get drums off so I offered this one up.
@JoeLil1993 Your welcome, thanks for the comment.
@Dcarlsonn I mention that in the brake shoe replacement videos, this video was to show an 'alternative' method of getting the drums to come loose. Thanks for your input and for your comment.
@workwithnature Adjustments can be tricky to get right, if you didn't watch the video I suggest you do as I show some ways to help get the correct adjustment. Tire inflation is important so you can't go wrong there no matter what. Good luck.
@libertyshot1 It will take some time before I get to that as I got a LOT of email. Your better off posting your question at the ETCG forum or using the search function on my website.
@massefect942 They actually make a special tool to pull off stubborn drums, you might want to see if you can rent one from your auto parts store.