Surfing the South Bay: 50's and 60's

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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

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  • @13_13k
    @13_13k 10 месяцев назад +8

    Great video. I grew up in Westchester, bought my first surfboard at 10 yrs old splitting the cost of $5.00 for a 13 ft Donald Takeyama double stringer that we bought from our neighbor at their annual garage sale. They were owners of Dive N Surf. That was 1975. For those who don't know Westchester, it is in mid bay and is home of LAX airport sitting a mile from the beach at Playa Del Rey.
    I grew up surfing all those places, the board shops had changed to Rick's surfboards, ET surfboards, among others.
    The map you show made me laugh because the very Northern indicated surf spot is the Shit Pipe. You have to be a local to know about the Shit Pipe. I hung out at Toes Beach and at El Porto.

    • @cactusmonster1441
      @cactusmonster1441 10 месяцев назад +3

      Is the Shit Pipe at the El segundo refinery??😂

    • @13_13k
      @13_13k 10 месяцев назад

      @@cactusmonster1441 --- it's actually at Dockweiler State Beach in front of the Scattergood Generating Station,(just a fancy name for a waste treatment plant where all of LA's shit gets treated and pushed out to sea in the shot pipe) corner of Imperial and Vista Del Mar. It gets good waves there sometimes. It is on the El Segundo side of Imperial Highway the North side is LAX and Playa Del Rey.
      If you go South of the Shit Pipe down Vista Del Mar you pass the Chevron Refinery and SoCal Edison power plant and then 45th st El Porto.

    • @geom-dx6jm
      @geom-dx6jm 8 месяцев назад +3

      That was a good time to be a kid in Westchester.

    • @13_13k
      @13_13k 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@cactusmonster1441 -- sorry for taking so long to reply
      The Shit Pipe is not in front of the Chevron Refinery. If you go North to the next set of buildings, at the corner of Imperial Highway and Vista Del Mar Lane that is the Scattergood Generating Station and the Los Angeles Hyperion Plant which is the raw sewage waste treatment plant. They process all the sewage for the city and treat it and cook it and then pump it out into the ocean through the Shit Pipe which extends a few miles out.

    • @13_13k
      @13_13k 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@geom-dx6jm ---- You are right. That was, in my opinion, the last years of Westchester/Playa Del Rey being that All American, Leave It To Beaver era.
      People left their keys in their cars, front doors were never locked, you could leave your bicycle or surfboard on the front lawn and it wouldn't be stolen. Kids walked to school or rode your bike, in high school I got a ride to school from my older brother but my best friend and I would hitchhike for a ride home. Hitchhiking was still a normal and usually safe thing to do. Most of the time you got picked up by someone you knew anyways.
      Westchester was full of kids, Halloween was crazy, streets packed with kids. We'd use pillow cases to collect candy and usually had to go home and dump out what you collected because it was too heavy to carry, and we'd go back out and hit the streets we hadn't gone to yet.
      There were house parties, parties at the beach or go to the bluffs and there would be a dozen or more people partying. During summertime the Marina Federal Savings bank sponsored the Saturday free shows, double matinee movies at Loyola Theater. It was always crazy. That theater must have had 500 or 600 seats easily and it would be full of kids from ages 7 or 8 through 14 or 15.
      We had surf class as an elective for P.E. . C'mon. Open campus at Westchester high you could come and go as you pleased, hang out in the parking lot and smoke if you didn't want to go to one of your classes.
      Good Times.

  • @brucehartnell1475
    @brucehartnell1475 5 месяцев назад +1

    KILLER video!! Used to jump off the redondo break wall into the Hermosa side all the time.
    Had a “ zero period” surf class at RUHS.
    I also once ran into Lloyd Bridges at the bank that was on the corner of Torrance boulevard and PCH. He had a ‘56 Cadillac.
    Thanks for bringing back all the memories!

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  5 месяцев назад

      so awesome! And a 56 Caddy! I'm just picturing it as a convertible! Oh, I have a video on Lloyd and Sea Hunt if you want to take a look

  • @cpost1558
    @cpost1558 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice job, my Dad grew up in Hermosa surfing with all those guys, 19th St. Surfing Seals, he has a plaque on the Hermosa Pier Surfers Walk of Fame. He had Velzy make his boards from the 50's then into the 80's and 90's. I now have a few of them. Velzy's memorial was one of the greatest gatherings of all time. My Dad was also contemporaries with Bing and rode those boards in the 60's and 70's. As well as spending time on the North Shore of Oahu in the late 50's and early 60's . I could go on and on. My Dad's first custom board was shaped out of balsa by Simmons in Santa Monica around 1950, the he had to glass it himself!
    You are so right about the moderns surfboard industry was really started in the South Bay- Hermosa Beach. I talk about it often, so thank you for putting a cool video out about it.
    With music, The Lighthouse on Pier avenue was a major Jazz club as well. I think most of the coolest things that our culture considers cool came out of the South Bay.
    I really appreciate the way you handle negative comments, or any snarky comment. Your demeanor is a lesson for all of us. Thank you bro!

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  5 месяцев назад

      What a cool connection! alas, I (and my family) was not here during that era. Appreciate your comment.

  • @brucehartnell1475
    @brucehartnell1475 5 месяцев назад +1

    Grew up two blocks from the redondo pier , on Catalina avenue and was alive during this time.
    Thank you for this. Huge fan of dive and surf, and hobie stuff.
    Killer! GO SOUTH BAY

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  5 месяцев назад

      Dude! So awesome. Alas, I am an import into socal and missed this era. I'm totally jealous.

    • @brucehartnell1475
      @brucehartnell1475 5 месяцев назад

      @@pczTV if you do a story about early so cal punk rock, you’ll run into me again

  • @jefftrenschel914
    @jefftrenschel914 5 месяцев назад +2

    My dad was a shaper for lymann surfboards in the 1960’s which was also apart of this same scene. He shaped for bing and noll as well when they needed help. He just told me he shaped 4 boards for Jeff Hackman as a boy right before his family left for Hawaii. His name is Robert Trenschel.

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  5 месяцев назад

      @@jefftrenschel914 that is so cool. If you have old photos of him, especially him shaping, you should totally do a short video! It’s such a golden age of surfing, folks would love to see that behind the scenes and personal connection!

  • @brucehartnell1475
    @brucehartnell1475 5 месяцев назад +1

    A friend of mine fell off of haggarty’s when the wind picked up and kited him off the trail. He fell about 150 feet and broke both his legs.
    Another friend broke his neck on shore pound at topaz in redondo. He survived.

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  5 месяцев назад

      Holy @#$@! Glad your friends survived! I can only imagine... at my age I cry when I get a papercut.

  • @jcandy5799
    @jcandy5799 7 месяцев назад +2

    I bought my first board, a used 7'4" Rick from Rick Surfboards in 1969 for $45. I was 13yo at the time. In 1973 I watched Bing shape a 6'8" for me. Stopped surfing in 1976. 38 years later started surfing again, South OC.
    Rick Stoner of Rick Surfboards was from Hermosa Beach. In 1955 he went to Hawaii with friend Bing Copeland. In late 1959 they opened Bing and Rick Surfboards in Hermosa Beach. Shortly after opening their shop, Rick decided to focus on being a full-time lifeguard, selling his shares of the business to Bing in the process. Bing then opened Bing Surfboards. Years later Rick established Rick Surfboards in 1963. Rick Stoner's life was cut short, he died in 1977 at age 40. His shop was at 845 PCH, Hermosa Beach, the building is still there.

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  7 месяцев назад

      Great feedback. Thanks for taking the time to comment

  • @philliplaplante8086
    @philliplaplante8086 9 месяцев назад +5

    My dad was a South Bay surfer from the mid-30’s into the 50’s. Malaga cove was his go-to spot. He built his own finless wooden board in his garage.

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  9 месяцев назад +3

      Your Dad is cooler than I will ever be. Thanks for watching

    • @TinShackVideos
      @TinShackVideos 7 месяцев назад

      Neptune Statue in the plaza.

  • @TURBOTUBBS
    @TURBOTUBBS 4 месяца назад +1

    DOUBLE DEADLY 👍👍👍

  • @clarkewi
    @clarkewi 7 месяцев назад +2

    Love it. I grew up in this area.

  • @lg5683
    @lg5683 7 месяцев назад +2

    I grew up on Manhattan Beach Blvd

  • @rickden8362
    @rickden8362 6 месяцев назад +1

    You missed Dave Sweet, he was one of the pioneers fiberglass on polyurethane boards.

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  6 месяцев назад

      If memory serves, Dave was up in Santa Monica (or was it Pallisades?). And, because I'm a lazy sod, I only covered the folks in the South Bay (since I can barely be bothered to drive around the south bay, much less take the trip to Santa Monica). But, good call. There were so many great shapers in so cal.

    • @dicksanders8206
      @dicksanders8206 5 месяцев назад

      I worked for Dave Sweet, sweeping up after school. He was a cool guy and had a lovely wife named Bonnie.

  • @holtcloward6193
    @holtcloward6193 7 месяцев назад

    You have no clue how much fun we had. Moms would pick us up when we were hitchhiking with our surfboards and load us in with her surfers.

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  7 месяцев назад

      I totally envy you! It seemed like the coolest of times. All the legendary shapers and surfers. Alas, my 'era' was the 80's but I did get to live vicariously thru my Son again in the 00's.

  • @MatthewThurley-l4t
    @MatthewThurley-l4t 10 месяцев назад +2

    I love this

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  10 месяцев назад

      I had not heard of shit pipe until my kid mentioned it in passing and... wait... what?.... Ah yes, gotta love it.

  • @259Den3
    @259Den3 7 месяцев назад

    That was a great history of the South Bay. I was born and raised in San Pedro, so I remember those locations well. I even worked at 'Hollywood Riviera Concessions'; the building used as the 'Hang Five in the Batman episode. The only thing strange in your video is the picture you used for Brian Wilson is actually the actor Paul Dano. Perhaps that was intended as humor, and I didn't get the joke.

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching. And…whaaat? I googled Brian Wilson to get a picture of him in his youth and got served with what you saw. Are you telling me that MR GOOGLE served up a photo of Paul Dano who - in my total ignorance - I just assumed that the google was correct and it was a photo of a young g Brian Wilson and I added him to the video? Oh lovely. The google has now put my ignorance on full display to the world. For the record, I should have double checked but …. I am a lazy sod. Mea culpa 😭

    • @259Den3
      @259Den3 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@pczTV Paul Dano played the younger Brian Wilson in the film 'Love and Mercy' which is probably why he showed up when you were searching.

  • @AnzaValley
    @AnzaValley 8 месяцев назад

    I grew up on First St Manhattan across from Robinson School in the early 1960's.
    Mike Costello , Ian Green, Robbie Sealoff, Carl Nuffer, Mike McCarty, Brew Briggs, Mike Collins and Davey ( Sorry I cant remember your last name) were our crew at Neptune Tower.
    The lifeguard Seymore would not let you take a surfboard out until you could show him that you could swim to Fourth St Tower.
    He wanted to make sure you did not drowned at his tower.
    Those were the days we surfed until blackball then spent the rest of the day body surfing and playing volleyball.
    The closest store was Stans Liquor store. A quarter would get you a 16oz Royal Crown Cola and an Ice cream sandwich.
    Some days we would get on our Stingrays and hit all the surf shops or ride to the Cove and talk about how some day we would surf it.
    That was the best of times before Hippies ruined it all.
    I give a shout out to all my Gremmie surf buddies I have seen you guys in over 50 years but we sure had a great time surfing and growing up. Hugo

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  8 месяцев назад

      So awesome. What great experiences! Pity that the youngsters today won't have such cool memories. Thanks for sharing.

  • @johnkling3537
    @johnkling3537 7 месяцев назад +2

    another southbay surfer - Mike Doyle

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the input. Tbh: I wasn't aware of Mike until you mentioned him.

  • @James-nc2zx
    @James-nc2zx 7 месяцев назад +1

    Grew up surfing bay st Dogtown . Hanging at the Zephyr shop and Horizons. First shop bought board was the Rick shop great board. Pops took us to the Redondo pier watching the surfer's with their longboards and dunebuggies beach bunnies.i wanted all that.. great video thanks

  • @Pompomgrenade
    @Pompomgrenade 7 месяцев назад +1

    I feel lucky to have moved to the US in 1982 and served the South Bay.... But it wasn't until I moved to Northern California in 88 that I discovered the Santa Cruz serve scene. Better waves, bitter cold, and brawls over nothing... Just to be Wave King for the moment 🤘 slash and burn 🌊

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  7 месяцев назад

      Alas, there are areas in the South Bay where similar behaviour abounds (Lunada Bay, I'm looking at you)

  • @taddricketts6282
    @taddricketts6282 9 месяцев назад +3

    Smut Peddlers anyone?

  • @ugocdf7706
    @ugocdf7706 7 месяцев назад

    I do not know much of what you covered here....but i am quite sure that picture of da bull ( g noll) it's not about waimea at all,but him after riding pipe

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  7 месяцев назад

      Ah so, thanks for the correction

  • @JayBobJayBob
    @JayBobJayBob 5 месяцев назад

    It cracks up this 70-year-old third generation coastal Southern Californian to think Dick Dale, who was born in Boston and inspired by the guitar picking of Chuck Berry would be called the inventor and the king of surf music. There is a thing called confirmation bias in which somebody creates a work of fiction to support their potentially incorrect thoughts of what happened. No doubt Chuck Berry‘s music was infectious and inspirational. But it was the surfers who decided that sound was surf music and not Dick Dale. Dick Dale just took advantage of the surfer’s trend. It was actually a real surfer born in California named Dennis Wilson, who with his brother Brian invented true surf music in a band called The Beach Boys. Even Dick Dale thought he was fortunate to have benefited from that erroneous spin. The true evolution of that guitar sound started with the jazz blues scene of the early 1950s which Chuck Berry turned into his signature guitar style that then went on to influence literally everybody including Dale and The Beach Boys on up to pickers today!

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  5 месяцев назад +1

      One could argue that EVERYONE was inspired by Chuck Berry. However, let me supoort the position:
      - didn't Dick release an album a full year before the Beach Boys?
      - And the crazy amount of reverb that Dick used really created a new 'sound' which differed from the Beach boys, who focused on amazing harmonies.

    • @dicksanders8206
      @dicksanders8206 5 месяцев назад

      Dick Dale was still performing in Joshua Tree in the late 1990s. He played with his son. Loved their music!

  • @richardelg4412
    @richardelg4412 7 месяцев назад

    What about Weber?

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  7 месяцев назад

      Dewey's section starts about 10:46. Sorry, I should have added chapters so folks could pop over to their preferred board shaper. Good learning, thanks for the comment

  • @stephenfrancis303
    @stephenfrancis303 8 месяцев назад +3

    Wilmington where the ghetto meets the sea everyone else how some kind of beach except us

    • @13_13k
      @13_13k 8 месяцев назад +2

      You got the docks. And the oily diesel fueled waters.
      It's almost as bad as being from the mid-bay with raw sewage from the whole city's storm drains running from Ballona Creek into the ocean and Marina Del Rey and all of its fuel and oil and garbage flowing out next to Ballona Creek and then we have the LAX jet exhaust billowing out and falling down on everything including the ocean then next to it the Hyperion waste treatment facility which literally gets all the city's piss and shit and food and blood and whatever people flush or drain into their sinks and toilets, that the shit gets cooked and separated from the hard stuff like toilet paper, bones, tampons, etc... then it gets "treated" and pushed out the Shit Pipe that extends into the ocean between Playa Del Rey and El Segundo next to Dockweiler State Beach , and the waste dumps into the ocean a few miles out.
      Then next to it is the Chevron refinery #2 which oil tankers line up and park about a half mile or less off the beach and they hook up an underwater pipe that the ship empties its raw crude oil into and it pumps to the refinery. It also does the reverse and takes on gasoline or treated oil. Every time they connect or disconnect the pipeline they lose a bunch of oil.
      As a kid we all would be surfing at El Porto in front of the SoCal Edison power plant which sits on the beach next to Chevron and we would smell natural gas bubbling up from the water and we would get these pieces of black tar stuck to our feet and on our boards and always tried to keep it off our surf trunks and it was sticky and smelled like gasoline. It would never come off your clothes and you had to use paint thinner to get it off your feet and hands.
      So, Wilmington doesn't sound so bad now does it? LOL Those of us who spent so much time in the water for most of our lives are so lucky, that we know of, that we didn't get some weird tumors or a third ear growing from all the nastiness in the water.
      Now they close the beaches after it rains for a couple days. Back then we were in the water like every other day. Crazy

    • @stephenfrancis303
      @stephenfrancis303 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@13_13k yeah my closet beach was rats beach in pv or torrance. When we wanted to escape the gang violence we would body surf torrance when i could afford a used longboard at 14. I would go surf with some guys in san pedro and we would go everywhere from manhattan down to san anofre spelling? I love wilmington i gave me character. Also maybe low fertility and some health defects who knows. All i know is me and my wife do not have children and ive seen 3 doctors. But when the surf is up ill be in the ocean and when it isnt ill be diving in catalina or fishing from kings harbor or 22nd st. Landing. P.s. I remeber all the tar sometimes we got it as far south as redondo.

    • @13_13k
      @13_13k 8 месяцев назад

      @@stephenfrancis303 --- yeah, brother. I grew up in Westchester /Playa Del Rey. We had Venice gangs to our immediate North and Inglewood, Crenshaw, Lennox gangs to the immediate East and LAX in our Southern backyard. Plenty of gangs surrounding us and went to school with them. My house was two blocks from the Inglewood L.A. City lines, Manchester and 405 .
      I actually lived in San Pedro for a short time up on the hill at 1st and Miraleste, basically Western, and then years later a girlfriend of mine lived at 39th and Pacific Ave. and she would go out of town a few times a year for work and she did pitbull rescue as a side gig and I would house and dog sit for a week or two at a time because I was the only person who wasn't scared to be around 4 or 5 dogs that had emotional and physical damage and the dogs were usually cool with me except a couple of them at different times that were just afraid of men or people in general from being abused. But I like Pedro, it's a cool town with some character and history, same as Wilmington. We also used to play you guys in high school football.
      I have to say I agree with you about the fertility thing. I'm almost 59, and been single and very fortunate to have had a lot of sex with a lot of women and had some longish, four years, a couple times, relationships, and I never got anyone pregnant. That I know of. So maybe you are onto something with your hypothesis about the water. Well, I hope the best for you and your wife in having kids.
      One of my best friends dated some chick he met at a club two times and two years later she is on his doorstep with a one year old girl saying it was his kid. It turned out to be his, and it worked out good for him having a daughter but the mom was a pain in the ass.
      But that's crazy. Two dates and two years later she shows up with a kid. Wow.

    • @JoeMmt347
      @JoeMmt347 7 месяцев назад

      Good stuff. I had my left eye almost put out by my surfboard rail at Shit Pipe. I used to surf D&W Jetty back in those days. Does anyone remember Toes before the Marina was built?
      I heard that it used to have
      long rides there. Some really good surfers came out of Del Rey.

    • @13_13k
      @13_13k 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@JoeMmt347 --- I don't remember Toes before the Marina was built. Born in '65. But my Uncle and my Great Uncle both told me that there was good surf at Toes before the breakwall and the Marina were built.
      There was the World's fastest board track for racing cars and motorcycles in 1909 - 1912 when it burned down. It was located where the wetlands are off Culver Blvd on the Northwest side just as you are entering Playa between Jefferson and Nichols St. After it burned is when they built Indianapolis Speedway using bricks. They held air shows out there also.

  • @michaelpanagiotis7109
    @michaelpanagiotis7109 4 месяца назад

    VELZY is the OriginaL LocaLBoy !

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  4 месяца назад

      He was THE man! Thanks for watching

  • @edwinwise6751
    @edwinwise6751 5 месяцев назад

    The South Bay is San Jose and Silicon Valley not whatever your talking about

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  5 месяцев назад

      @@edwinwise6751 sorry, I grew up thinking South Bay is in so cal….i love that we have different ideas of what “South Bay” means to us ….peace, brother

    • @dicksanders8206
      @dicksanders8206 5 месяцев назад

      South Bay is the southern half of Santa Monica Bay in Southern California.

    • @jcandy5799
      @jcandy5799 2 месяца назад

      Actually, there are Three areas known as The South Bay, San Diego, Los Angles, and the Bay Area.

  • @redeyestones3738
    @redeyestones3738 7 месяцев назад

    What about my watch and like history couldve possibly prompted youtube to suggest a video about the lamest era in surf and music history? 🤢

    • @pczTV
      @pczTV  7 месяцев назад

      Sorry that the YT served up a video that you didn't like! And I'm going to guess that you're the down vote :-) But Hey, I do have a video about the current state of South Bay board shapers. It can be found on my channel and the content is "just" as engaging as this video..... or you can go farther back in time and see south bay surfing from 1900-1941 in the OG surf video (which if you don't like 60's music, I can't picture you liking big band music). Anyway, thanks for visiting.

    • @dicksanders8206
      @dicksanders8206 5 месяцев назад

      It's only lame to people who didn't live it.