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Amazing work here but if you're taking any suggestions or requests how about a DC Universe Beyond. 1. Superman Beyond the son or Grandson of Superman. Dealing with being half alien. 2. Wonder Woman Beyond a mixer with cyberpunk and greek mythology. 3. The Flash Beyond. 4. Green Lantern Beyond 5. Aqua Princess Beyond the youngest daughter of Aquaman and Mera. 6. Martian Man Beyond half earthling half Martian. 7. Green Arrow Beyond. 8. Justice League Beyond
@@jemaka6058 That's...something I guess. Kevin and Tom's cameos were acceptable fan service, but I hate the way they handled the characters. Batman killing criminals and Superman giving up his powers? Odd choices.
I think for the 2nd act scene where Bruce shakes Terry's hand. I think it would be better to take more inspiration from one of the episodes of the Batman Beyond series. I think him saying then let’s get started, Terry. It would be better because later, at the end of the film, you can bring that back and have Bruce call him Batman. He has finally moved on from the mission. And picked his successor. Also, to make it more earned it would be funny to honor the original bit that even in retirement, Bruce still thinks he’s Batman. Like it could be a scene of Bruce locks terry out of the computer. And he can’t guess the password for the life of him. and it’s just simply Batman. Terry could say something funny like “greatest detective my ass.”
I don't even know if Bruce should be calling Terry Batman by the end of the movie. In his mind, Bruce IS Batman. He doesn't even call himself Bruce in his mind he calls himself Batman. I don't think that should change after Terry goes through one Batman adventure. Maybe Jason or even Damien could call him Batman by the end? But really I think it's enough that Terry fully accepts that he's Batman by the end of the movie. Bruce allowing Terry to continue wearing the suit and acting as Batman would be enough. As for when they make their deal to let Terry use the suit to get those drugs off the street, I would imagine it going a little more like: Terry: *holding out his hand to shake* "So we have a deal?" Bruce: *ignoring the offered hand* "Fine." Bruce turns to leave and then says over his shoulder: "But this doesn't make you Batman." Or something like that.
Crazy how Jason and Terry literally have the same personality. people don't want to accept that though. Terry just got written better than Jason and more love. Terry is just a good Jason
I am *so* glad you came up with futures for the Bat-Family members that aren’t just them picking up roles their predecessors had, and that don’t feel like they are stuck in their pasts, but that are still informed by them.
I never liked the idea of Terry being Bruce's biological son because it creates the Idea that the mantle of batman is something that can only be passed through blood. When the whole idea of Batman is that anyone can be a hero even without powers. Anyone can wear the mask that's the message batman beyond should share especially since it did it before spiderverse. So i think it's best that Bruce and Terry aren't related they can still have that father,son mentor and apprentice relationship but there NOT related by blood only by there burning sense of justice. And to best show it I think Terry should be played by an Asian American actor most preferably Charles Melton. I always saw Terry as more Asian than Caucasian in the show and in the comics and im pretty sure in the White Knight he's half Japanese i think. I think it fits and it wont effect the character that much.
@@s-wo8781 Yeah especially since he looked nothing like his parents. There is no resemblance between Terry and his father or his mother honestly until epilogue came along I thought he was adopted. Plus making him half Asian won't effect the character that much just look at invincible Mark Grayson is half Asian American and it's not that big a deal as it doesn't change the character or effect the story.
You said the one thing I needed to hear to take this pitch serious. The Batsuit needs to be simple and sleek. If you understand that you show that you understand Batman Beyond.
Late to this, but the image of a young Batman uniting with the Jokerz in a fight against a greater power could be one of the most iconic moments in superhero film history
I know you said she moved to Hong Kong, but I was hoping Cass would've joined Tim and Jason to confront Terry, since she's also one of Bruce's adopted children.
The biggest wasted potential with batman beyond is Damien Wayne as he could be a great antagonist 1. He has solid motivation as he didn’t have the most normal childhood and Bruce is a not a great parent 2. Blood connection as they are technically half siblings and family dramas are usually fun 3. It would be a good connection to the old batman villains as most of Terry’s villains are original characters 4. His design would be cool af (Also he could be called Ra’s al guhl as it’s more of a title than a name and it’s a hard name)
This literally happened in the comics and he looked dope af. His red monster dog thingy had also grown to be near-kaiju size lol. I think it would be cool if he led an Injustice league Beyond or Legion of Doom beyond.
Not trying to be a rude jerk or anything, but i think it would be made as an Batman Beyond Elseworlds story... despite being an Elseworlds au story or something...
I love this video so much and the way of bringing in the old Batfamily. I feel like having Tim be a private detective with Barbra and and Barbra and Dick are married and all are still in contact without talking to Bruce anymore would be also be a great way to say they moved on together and left Bruce behind completely
I still cant get over the fact that you gave us such a fantastic pitch for a Batman Beyond movie and yet WBD still said no to a Batman Beyond movie akin to the animation Spiderverse and wasted Micheal Keatons return in The Flash (2023) and not on him playing Old Man Bruce Wayne to a live-action Terry McGinnis instead
Bruce pulling the trigger is very poetic, he took the chance to avenge his parents in a symbolic sense, but fate said no. Because he is no longer vengance, he is justice 🍿
Ngl I was kinda expecting you to say Tim and Steph retired together just because that is my headcanon for the Beyond era but hearing you say husband made me go "oh yeah he's bi"
@@mariogariazzo2024 Tell that to every film, TV, and comic writer in the past decade who seem to believe "Oh, they're bi" is an excuse to suddenly make a character gay when they've had decades worth of hetero relationships. They view sexuality as a binary, you're either into the same sex or the opposite, and if you're bi, then to them it just means you need to get off the damn fence already.
🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏. Just 2 things. 1 I would have kept Damien out of this and save him for a story where he’s the bad guy like in the DC Rebirth comics. 2 a great strength of Batman Bayond is that it didn’t rely on Bruce’s villains to get fans hooked and instead made new iconic villains to truly be Terry’s. So I would have used one of Terry’s villains to be working for Powers and save your ideas for ban in another story where he’s working with Kobra because snakes and venom go together. But still a perfect movie
Absolutely beautiful of a pre-write! I think I'm gonna rewatch it again! Also killer moth solo film when troy? I'm sure killer moth will love you as much as you love him
Bañé and derricks story is very good but Damien shouldn’t be a bodyguard but instead the leader of the league of assassins since Bruce never let him take his mantle. It would be a good battle for the cowl story for the sequel. Also terry’s dad needs to die due to him finding out about blight and Derrick because it gives terry a reason to go after it and Bruce would be more willing seeing a way to help terry get over his vengeance. Therefore you could argue that is why terry is the best protégé since he has the right mentality for Batman and none of the vengeance like dick Grayson. Also Batman would never go to terrys gfs house bruh.
Also don’t put Damien in the first movie he should be a big character in the 2nd movie. Jason should mentor terry on the field instead. Like how Dick mentored Damien. This is too help the sequel doesn’t really effect this.
@@hunterfogleman7443 I made a couple changes that don’t really take anything major away from the main story that Troy presented ( which I really liked), but if I could write my own I would.
Trust Me, when The Brave and the Bold Batman Movie is released, Damian's character will be everywhere, Currently, he is popping off in comics, and animated movies, all he needs is a live-action and gaming appearance and he will be cemented as a super popular character. He's like my top 5 fav Batfamily character
@@the_wolfclan05 he's already appeared in gaming, he's the playable Nightwing in Injustice 1 and unplayable Nightwing/playable Robin in Injustice 2. which was bs that Robin was playable but not Nightwing despite him being Nightwing in all but 2 scenes(Flashbacks). Josh Keaton(AKA Spectacular Spiderman/Arkham Timmy) was actually going to be playing a future Batman in an Arkham Project as Damian but that was cancelled, a playable Damian was also set to appear alongside an aged up Timmy(as Red Robin) and Catwoman in a story dlc facing off against Two-Face for Gotham Knights but was scrapped? Its either scrapped or they're slow asl with content considering ive heard they never officially cancelled it(which doesnt always mean its coming out, look at Rockstar Games and some of their games that are long since abandoned but never officially cancelled) Damian fans eating bad in terms of gaming, scrap that they arent eating at all theyre locked in a cage with food thats just out of arms reach. But live action youre right, Titans had a good enough universe and we barely seen Tim as Robin. It would've been good to see Damian show up eventually if it continued.
Batman Beyond really does have that corporate mandated sound to it ("Batman in the Future"), so it actually becoming one of my favorite adaptations, if not my favorite adaptation, of Batman through sheer skill and passion in the execution is so cool. A kid from the lower levels of the slums finding purpose with the ability to fly above what he thought his life was meant to be, what everyone thought his life was meant to be, is so powerful; I love how this really focuses in on that aspect. Love that it's actually an adaptation and not just a rehash of the exact same story beats, but in live-action (even though I love Terry's dad being murdered, and everything that builds off of that). And I don't think it just gives the people who haven't watched the show something, but also the people who have and get to almost experience it for the first time again. I love Bruce actually trying to pull the trigger, but it jamming. And how it's in Crime Alley. Jesus. I love that it's actually doing something. Like, it's actually saying something. There's a story here. I feel a lot of people's "pitches" for stories like these are very, just, flat. Kinda boring. They don't really do anything interesting. The whole Bane story here, and Terry being set up for Dick's murder, and the rest of the Bat-Family getting involved, I really love that. Is this your best one? This might be your best one. The lights changing to red, to Terry's bat-signal, gave me chills. "The Batman has returned." That whole scene goes so hard. "Where there is 'apathy,' 'greed,' 'corruption,' 'power,' there is 'hope,' 'honor,' 'courage,' and 'justice.' HOLY SHIT.
idk about this, it rifs on some of the basic ideas spiderverse. the unearned mantel, the unworthyness, the luck. it’s just good, but i feel like some of these ideas can be changed. even the end, feels like the final battle with kingpin in spiderverse.
@@kingofhearts3185 absolutely no denying that, but there’s space for a better story, the single part i hated the most was bruce and the bat family being so shitty to mcginnis is wildly out of character.
@@josereyes-ze7ll I agree. It made for a nice Jason moment, but that wouldn't have any setup in a standalone project without heavy exposition. Not to mention being so heavily contrived. You could just have Bruce get cold feat and keep the yelling. But otherwise I like the story.
I really enjoyed watching this, but there's a few parts of this prewrite that really bother me. Terry's dad's death being an accident rather than a part of a cover up changes a lot about his dynamic with Bruce. It's what causes Bruce to open up that door in Rebirth, what causes Bruce to let him in. It forces Bruce into a position where he both is able to sympathize with Terry for his loss and feel partially responsible for it as it never would have happened if he continued to run his company and fend off Powers' hostile takeover. It highlights to him that Bruce Wayne's retreat from the world is just as damaging to Gotham as Batman's. One thing that I really appreciated about Batman Beyond was how sparingly they used Bruce's original rogues gallery. I feel like forcing Bane into Terry's story and pushing out Blight, Terry's most iconic and best developed foe, doesn't really work for me. It makes it feel less like Terry stands on his own or that Gotham needs a new Batman if he only has to deal with Bruce's geriatric sloppy seconds. Derek Powers usage in this also feels fairly weak. He just feels like a generic business man, he loses a lot of those signature feelings of collected cunning and smug charm he exudes. Making him a nepo baby is a choice that, while understandable from a commentary perspective (as you yourself outlined), serves to make him feel less competent and therefore threatening. I think the nepotism commentary (and commentary on superhero legacy) would be better saved to be used on his son Paxton Powers, who wasn't well explored in the original show anyway. I do like the idea of Powers have influence over the GCPD, but I feel like keeping the police a public institution actually makes a stronger commentary. It highlights the ways corporations and billionaires are able to exert power over and contort public resources to their own benefit and help stymie reform efforts in a broken system. Essentially how that culture you talk about of all the bad apples is able to flourish partly because it benefits people like Powers. On the inclusion of the other Bat-Family characters, I feel like most of them would be better served in a sequel that focuses on their relationship with Terry after he's already established. We as fans already know Terry and we know them, but for most people this would be an introduction to most of them. It would be easy for the story to lose either focus or weight by trying to introduce too many characters at once. Though I did love that little scene with Jason Todd, and feel validated that I'm not the only one to make the connection that Terry's story heavily parallels his own. You mentioned in the video that killing Dick Grayson has become a trope. I get your reasoning for doing so, but I still think the existence of that trope makes it feel more predictable and makes it feel like it looses weight. The scene with Terry basically calling out Bruce for his failings feels a bit generic and on the nose. For a lot of legacy characters or mantle passes it's very common to have the new character rail at the failings of the old, but it doesn't tend to endear them very much to the audience. It feel like you're giving him a hill he never had to climb in the original by doing so, that he literally has to prove that he's a "better" Batman rather than just being Batman. The setting itself shows Bruce's failures, having a scene were a character literally yells it out at him feels redundant and preachy. It also doesn't really fit Bruce and Terry's dynamic where they do like and respect each other, with their disagreements instead mostly coming form how they approach problems or situations. Overhaul I enjoyed getting to hear someone else's ideas for a Batman Beyond movie, a thought experiment just about every fan has run through at some point. It really got to me think about and examine Batman Beyond more, and why I connected with it in the first place.
no..just no. u lost me at bruce pulls the trigger. aiming the gun is one thing but the fact that bruce wpuld be willing to shoot someone... no ur just stupid for thinking that would be a good idea in the movie
I feel like the solution to the problem you have is that the police have no hope to challenge the corruption, there is no hope in going against the system But Batman, Batman is different, he gives hope to everyone in Gotham, the people who are too scared to fight against the broken system of society
At 13:13 it’s the latter pronunciation of ‘Akira’ that’s more accurate to how a Japanese person would say it. But I still say it like “ah-KEY-ra”most of the time, because most people in the US know it that way. Most have no idea what movie I’m talking about when I try to pronounce it correctly.
For whether or not Terry should be his son I like his as his son especially the episode. Because it makes him question if he actually did have a choice in being Batman or not. And that be the end it wasn’t his blood that made him Batman. But his actions and his choices.
As much as i like your pitch, it just feels like a lot is going even if this were for a near 3 hour live action movie. Derek Powers should be the overarching villain for a trilogy of Batman Beyond films. Judging by the concept art, Inque could have been the villain for the first movie, so I think building up to Derek Powers aka Blight by having the villains be a result of his corrupt company is a great way to set him up. As for the Bat-Family, the first movie should solely be Bruce and Terry story with the rest of the Bat-Family appearing in the sequels. The first to return in the second movie should be Barbara, Dick, Jason, Katherine, and Tim, and in the third movie, Damian, Stephanie, Cassandra, Luke, and Harper some would support Terry being Batman, others would be indifferent or against it. Part 2 would have an empire strikes back style ending, with part 3 being what I like to call Batman: No Way Home
Tbf, since the spider-verse comparison is right there, there's no reason Inque couldn't play a role similar to Prowler in that movie, acting as the main source of aggression between the hero and antagonists for most of the film but ultimately working for the actual final villain
@@constructking8850 nah, Batman beyond has to have the dominant aesthetic and themes of cyberpunk. The gothic style doesn’t really exist anymore at that point
I've been thinking of what a Batman Beyond film would be like for years, and I've always just pulled mainly from the TV show thinking that it was the best way to tell the story. But holy shit was I wrong! You were able to blend in elements from the show while also making it uniquely its own canon. I especially loved the inclusion of the Bat-family and how they were all respected. For years I always wondered how an older Bat-family would feel about Bruce's decision to hang up the cowl and leave the city to become Neo Worse...I'll see myself out. But seriously, these are people who all shared a common mission and the majority of there lives together, and I love how you brought them back in. Great video man, definitely one of my favorites!
i think mark hammil would be incredible as an older bruce. idk if it’s something he’s be willing to do, but i think he’s the best choice. best fit animated, but live action i think he’d skill kill it. if it’s animated i could also see keanu killing it
im working on a comic called get Polarizzed, i am the writer but me and my friends are the artists, he works on the scenery and far shots, when i am more like the close up, charecture and fight scene artist, we arnt even done with the script, or all of the charecters in mind but we know where the general story is gonna go, There is forsure gonna be some twists and turns in the plot, but forshadowed, but i think by issue 10 its gonna be a banger, when its out and published (we are gonna finish the first 15, then publish simoutaniuosly, so theres not much waist and then publish the next 10) id like to send you a free copy of all of them and you could possibly reveiw it so i know, what to work on and if i should rewrite the first issues or keep going on it, as a true comic book nerd id love to see what you think. Thanks for the oppurtunity if you take or not, either way, ypur getting a free copy sense your a huge insparasion
I adore these prewrite videos so much; they're so much of an inspiration to me as they are beautiful fanmade stories brimming with so much passion for the medium of comics. Keep it up with these awesome videos!! :]
I have loved watching your prewrites for a while now, but this is just something else. I LOVE this idea for a story. The way you incorporated the members of the bat family is so seamless and impactful; definitely not just throwing them in there for lip service. I would watch the hell out of this movie.
i feel like since it would’ve been an animated film like spider-verse, i feel as if, and I know this casting has been done to death, but so genuinely believe Timothee Chalamet would be good for this role. I don’t see him as Nightwing or whatever in live action, not even a little bit. But I did see an interview from Timothee saying that The Dark Knight got him into acting and due to his rising acting career, I feel like he wouldn’t accept anything less than ACTUALLY Batman, but I don’t see him as Bruce Wayne. Terry would be PERFECT for him. also since Conroy is out of the question (God rest his beloved soul) the next obvious casting would be Michael Keaton. He does have a good voice, especially now in his old age.
I've said this a lot in the chat but plz sonic 3 and superman prewrite videos. Plz notice this troy Edit: plz like this so he notices my requests bc these would be awesome
The original Japanese name is Ákira, and the Americanized version is AkÍra. Kind of how Westerners call the King of the Monsters GodzÍlla, but in Japanese it's Gójira. You also might have played a little game called Ninja Gaidén, and not Ninja Gay-dun. (I'm aware you probably know this and were just doing the bit for the engagement but also it's a great video and I don't mind giving you that engagement lmao)
Nah, cuz ending the movie with the words from the shows opening is PEAK CINEMA! Honestly, this a really good interpretation of the world. BB fans like myself have seen the show so we know how things play out, so putting your own spin on it where even we wouldn't know how it would play out was a fun ride.
If I could suggest just one thing to this pitch it would be that we don't put Damien in just a black suit. A lot of time has passed and I think at this point he should've grown into a new identity. I propose that in this beyond timeline, Damien hasn't been given the blessing of wearing the batsuit, so he's developed a suit of his own, one that is reminiscent of the beyond suit, but not the same. I think in this timeline Damien Wayne is taking up the mantle of Red X (this is a stupid nonsense suggestion but seeing Red X again in any form would just make me so happy)
My idea for the jokers is to have one of them be a piss take of Jared Leto's joker... say a pretentious actor gets way to into researching the character and decides to become a criminal. I'd maybe give him an army of unhinged punchline fangirls too
We need a live action Batman beyond movie in the DCU today a mix of noir and cyberpunk just imagine Batman in Blade runner city and ink should definitely be the main villain I think the reason they never got to make the animated Batman beyond movie is that James Gunn has plans to make a live action Batman beyond movie
Loved the video it was great and personally I would love to see more elseworld ideas from you which aren't connected to other superhero projects like Clark: A superman story
I think Jeffery dean morgan would make a great older Bruce..i feel like they were setting him up to be batman in bvs but never went for it so would be nice to give him a chance
I think Bruce's speech to Terry should go a bit more like this Bruce: Being batman isn't about being mad at the world and taking that out on people with violence. Being batman is about rising above tragedy and finding meaning in pain. It's about taking that trauma, that anger that rage in your soul and using it change into something more. Something better you don't need to be a billionaire or have some kind of "blood right" to be batman. You just need to have the will to do what is right and never give up.
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I'm with u dude... #TeamAkira 😔✊🏾
That moment when a simple synopsis gives you a full scene, and you cry, if I had the money, I'd fund this as a fan film
Amazing work here but if you're taking any suggestions or requests how about a DC Universe Beyond.
1. Superman Beyond the son or Grandson of Superman. Dealing with being half alien.
2. Wonder Woman Beyond a mixer with cyberpunk and greek mythology.
3. The Flash Beyond.
4. Green Lantern Beyond
5. Aqua Princess Beyond the youngest daughter of Aquaman and Mera.
6. Martian Man Beyond half earthling half Martian.
7. Green Arrow Beyond.
8. Justice League Beyond
The biggest crime WB did was not making it sooner so we could see Kevin Conroy as old Bruce Wayne.
We still got a glimpse of Kevin as old batman on the CW
@@jemaka6058 That's...something I guess. Kevin and Tom's cameos were acceptable fan service, but I hate the way they handled the characters. Batman killing criminals and Superman giving up his powers? Odd choices.
@@jemaka6058and it sucked
Don't worry, they might still do it with AI clones.
(I'm so sorry for that horrific image)
@@ymn3112 Please no
“people who have rent too pay don’t dress up and fight crime”
Peter Parker: “yeah totally…”
Peter has rents to pay, he just doesn't pay them.
@@_Tozzie_😂
they'll get their rent when they fix the DAMN DOOR !!
A Batsuit is way fucking cheaper than therapy. I WILL BRING JUSTICE INSTEAD OF HEALING!
I love how you used Jason and Terry being similar in origin.
"How's the Batman Beyond prewrite?"
*bites cake* SO GOOD
It’s pie actually
SO GOOD
I love the Bane twist, makes it an actual mystery instead of having it just be Blight which most Batman Beyond fans would predict
I thought it was gonna be Damian.
“Behold, I shall be a Blight upon the land, and everything I touch shall wither and die!”
Venom mass produced would indeed be a “blight”.
I was thinking Scarecrow or Penguin, didn't even know there was a batman villain called blight lol
@vanguardbreaker8826 Blight is a Terry only villain. He's Derek Powers, who is responsible for Terry's father's death.
I think for the 2nd act scene where Bruce shakes Terry's hand. I think it would be better to take more inspiration from one of the episodes of the Batman Beyond series. I think him saying then let’s get started, Terry. It would be better because later, at the end of the film, you can bring that back and have Bruce call him Batman. He has finally moved on from the mission. And picked his successor. Also, to make it more earned it would be funny to honor the original bit that even in retirement, Bruce still thinks he’s Batman. Like it could be a scene of Bruce locks terry out of the computer. And he can’t guess the password for the life of him. and it’s just simply Batman. Terry could say something funny like “greatest detective my ass.”
Yeah, I thought the exact same, first make Bruce call him Terry, and then at the end call him Batman.
I don't even know if Bruce should be calling Terry Batman by the end of the movie. In his mind, Bruce IS Batman. He doesn't even call himself Bruce in his mind he calls himself Batman. I don't think that should change after Terry goes through one Batman adventure.
Maybe Jason or even Damien could call him Batman by the end? But really I think it's enough that Terry fully accepts that he's Batman by the end of the movie. Bruce allowing Terry to continue wearing the suit and acting as Batman would be enough.
As for when they make their deal to let Terry use the suit to get those drugs off the street, I would imagine it going a little more like:
Terry: *holding out his hand to shake* "So we have a deal?"
Bruce: *ignoring the offered hand* "Fine."
Bruce turns to leave and then says over his shoulder: "But this doesn't make you Batman."
Or something like that.
@@Nodiee1 Yeah I think that works better and fits in more line with Bruce’s characterzation.
Crazy how Jason and Terry literally have the same personality. people don't want to accept that though. Terry just got written better than Jason and more love. Terry is just a good Jason
As a person who likes Jason Todd, I can’t say I disagree/agree with that
@@daryltor7608 I'll take it
I think they’re good by just being different characters. I think it just takes a better writer to take Jason a step further.
@MonkeyDBatman I have and he still has a chip on his shoulder like Terry
Dick Grayson ,Jason Todd ,Terry miginins and Jace fox are different to eachother
That ending animatic was so cool, especially banes design
Perfect way to spend a 4/20 afternoon 🔥
Nice
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This is how I realized it's 4/20
@@atomsizedbacon5358 nice
Hell yeah brother 🤘🤘
I am *so* glad you came up with futures for the Bat-Family members that aren’t just them picking up roles their predecessors had, and that don’t feel like they are stuck in their pasts, but that are still informed by them.
I especially love the one he chose for Jason, it seems like good closure for his character after going through so much
How do Morbius, Kraven and Madame Webb have live action movies but not Batman Beyond?
Because Disney wanted to buy/lease Spider-Man and Sony doesn't know what to do with anything else from the IP.
@@fluidthought42 Sony owns Spider-Man not Fox.
Cause we lived in a world with several people who made some stupid decisions.
Because this director we need is currently doing Dune.
@@eman4630
Ty for the correction
I never liked the idea of Terry being Bruce's biological son because it creates the Idea that the mantle of batman is something that can only be passed through blood. When the whole idea of Batman is that anyone can be a hero even without powers. Anyone can wear the mask that's the message batman beyond should share especially since it did it before spiderverse. So i think it's best that Bruce and Terry aren't related they can still have that father,son mentor and apprentice relationship but there NOT related by blood only by there burning sense of justice. And to best show it I think Terry should be played by an Asian American actor most preferably Charles Melton. I always saw Terry as more Asian than Caucasian in the show and in the comics and im pretty sure in the White Knight he's half Japanese i think. I think it fits and it wont effect the character that much.
The idea of Batman isn't that it's a mantle but who Bruce Wayne really is. It's Bruce's mental state that made him Batman.
@@RyanG0899 yeah but anyone can be batman anyone can wear the mask which is why Bruce and Terry shouldn't be related
You saw him as Asian in the show even though he had two white parents?
@@s-wo8781 Yeah especially since he looked nothing like his parents. There is no resemblance between Terry and his father or his mother honestly until epilogue came along I thought he was adopted. Plus making him half Asian won't effect the character that much just look at invincible Mark Grayson is half Asian American and it's not that big a deal as it doesn't change the character or effect the story.
@@thatonkgau5221 Not gonna lie mate, that's giving me Velma flashbacks.
You said the one thing I needed to hear to take this pitch serious.
The Batsuit needs to be simple and sleek. If you understand that you show that you understand Batman Beyond.
Late to this, but the image of a young Batman uniting with the Jokerz in a fight against a greater power could be one of the most iconic moments in superhero film history
I know you said she moved to Hong Kong, but I was hoping Cass would've joined Tim and Jason to confront Terry, since she's also one of Bruce's adopted children.
Cyberpunk Bane vs Batman Beyond. Hell yeah.
The biggest wasted potential with batman beyond is Damien Wayne as he could be a great antagonist
1. He has solid motivation as he didn’t have the most normal childhood and Bruce is a not a great parent
2. Blood connection as they are technically half siblings and family dramas are usually fun
3. It would be a good connection to the old batman villains as most of Terry’s villains are original characters
4. His design would be cool af
(Also he could be called Ra’s al guhl as it’s more of a title than a name and it’s a hard name)
This literally happened in the comics and he looked dope af. His red monster dog thingy had also grown to be near-kaiju size lol. I think it would be cool if he led an Injustice league Beyond or Legion of Doom beyond.
Not trying to be a rude jerk or anything, but i think it would be made as an Batman Beyond Elseworlds story... despite being an Elseworlds au story or something...
I love this video so much and the way of bringing in the old Batfamily. I feel like having Tim be a private detective with Barbra and and Barbra and Dick are married and all are still in contact without talking to Bruce anymore would be also be a great way to say they moved on together and left Bruce behind completely
No Troy, I actually have you on half my screen and watch you with a side eye while playing Tetris...
Bruh, the guitar theme kicking in as he does "I am Batman" -
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Is it true that Terry is meant to resemble teenage Leo Dicaprio with black hair?
I still cant get over the fact that you gave us such a fantastic pitch for a Batman Beyond movie and yet WBD still said no to a Batman Beyond movie akin to the animation Spiderverse and wasted Micheal Keatons return in The Flash (2023) and not on him playing Old Man Bruce Wayne to a live-action Terry McGinnis instead
That scene of Batman pointing a gun at the criminal just broke me when I saw it for the first time
Can I humbly ask can we have a sequel pitch pls
Yes
PLEASEEEEEEE A TRILOGY IS NEEDED PRETTY PLEASE WITH DANGEROUS AMOUNTS OF SUGAR AND CHERRIES ON TOP(i love ya)
Bruce pulling the trigger is very poetic, he took the chance to avenge his parents in a symbolic sense, but fate said no. Because he is no longer vengance, he is justice 🍿
Ngl I was kinda expecting you to say Tim and Steph retired together just because that is my headcanon for the Beyond era but hearing you say husband made me go "oh yeah he's bi"
He can have a wife AND a husband then
Or, uh... Just a wife. It's not like you have to be with a guy to prove you're bi.
Tim and Steph all the way. Accept no other ships.
@@mariogariazzo2024 Tell that to every film, TV, and comic writer in the past decade who seem to believe "Oh, they're bi" is an excuse to suddenly make a character gay when they've had decades worth of hetero relationships. They view sexuality as a binary, you're either into the same sex or the opposite, and if you're bi, then to them it just means you need to get off the damn fence already.
9:29 Hold up, we could’ve had a Spider-Man 2099 animated show?! Well…now I’m upset
🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏. Just 2 things. 1 I would have kept Damien out of this and save him for a story where he’s the bad guy like in the DC Rebirth comics. 2 a great strength of Batman Bayond is that it didn’t rely on Bruce’s villains to get fans hooked and instead made new iconic villains to truly be Terry’s. So I would have used one of Terry’s villains to be working for Powers and save your ideas for ban in another story where he’s working with Kobra because snakes and venom go together. But still a perfect movie
I can already say that this video is already going BEYOND my head
Fun fact, the original king of the royal flush gang was played by George Lazenby who also played james bond
Absolutely beautiful of a pre-write! I think I'm gonna rewatch it again!
Also killer moth solo film when troy? I'm sure killer moth will love you as much as you love him
THIS IS SO GOOD! Is it bad I want like a whole trilogy about this now?
Bañé and derricks story is very good but Damien shouldn’t be a bodyguard but instead the leader of the league of assassins since Bruce never let him take his mantle. It would be a good battle for the cowl story for the sequel. Also terry’s dad needs to die due to him finding out about blight and Derrick because it gives terry a reason to go after it and Bruce would be more willing seeing a way to help terry get over his vengeance. Therefore you could argue that is why terry is the best protégé since he has the right mentality for Batman and none of the vengeance like dick Grayson. Also Batman would never go to terrys gfs house bruh.
Also don’t put Damien in the first movie he should be a big character in the 2nd movie. Jason should mentor terry on the field instead. Like how Dick mentored Damien. This is too help the sequel doesn’t really effect this.
Why don’t just write your own movie at this point? Since you like your ideas so much.
@@hunterfogleman7443 I made a couple changes that don’t really take anything major away from the main story that Troy presented ( which I really liked), but if I could write my own I would.
Don’t mind me now patiently waiting for that ‘Fanboy Prewrites “Green Arrow”’ video
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Thanks for the videos Troy. The effort you put into these doesn't go unnoticed
I always headcannoned the Arkham knight beyond suit as like the very first iteration of a beyond suit
I know Damian Wayne isn't too popular, but he's my favorite Batman character. It'd be sick if we could get a Damian pitch video
Trust Me, when The Brave and the Bold Batman Movie is released, Damian's character will be everywhere, Currently, he is popping off in comics, and animated movies, all he needs is a live-action and gaming appearance and he will be cemented as a super popular character. He's like my top 5 fav Batfamily character
@@the_wolfclan05 he's already appeared in gaming, he's the playable Nightwing in Injustice 1 and unplayable Nightwing/playable Robin in Injustice 2. which was bs that Robin was playable but not Nightwing despite him being Nightwing in all but 2 scenes(Flashbacks).
Josh Keaton(AKA Spectacular Spiderman/Arkham Timmy) was actually going to be playing a future Batman in an Arkham Project as Damian but that was cancelled, a playable Damian was also set to appear alongside an aged up Timmy(as Red Robin) and Catwoman in a story dlc facing off against Two-Face for Gotham Knights but was scrapped? Its either scrapped or they're slow asl with content considering ive heard they never officially cancelled it(which doesnt always mean its coming out, look at Rockstar Games and some of their games that are long since abandoned but never officially cancelled)
Damian fans eating bad in terms of gaming, scrap that they arent eating at all theyre locked in a cage with food thats just out of arms reach.
But live action youre right, Titans had a good enough universe and we barely seen Tim as Robin. It would've been good to see Damian show up eventually if it continued.
Batman Beyond really does have that corporate mandated sound to it ("Batman in the Future"), so it actually becoming one of my favorite adaptations, if not my favorite adaptation, of Batman through sheer skill and passion in the execution is so cool. A kid from the lower levels of the slums finding purpose with the ability to fly above what he thought his life was meant to be, what everyone thought his life was meant to be, is so powerful; I love how this really focuses in on that aspect.
Love that it's actually an adaptation and not just a rehash of the exact same story beats, but in live-action (even though I love Terry's dad being murdered, and everything that builds off of that). And I don't think it just gives the people who haven't watched the show something, but also the people who have and get to almost experience it for the first time again.
I love Bruce actually trying to pull the trigger, but it jamming. And how it's in Crime Alley. Jesus.
I love that it's actually doing something. Like, it's actually saying something. There's a story here. I feel a lot of people's "pitches" for stories like these are very, just, flat. Kinda boring. They don't really do anything interesting. The whole Bane story here, and Terry being set up for Dick's murder, and the rest of the Bat-Family getting involved, I really love that.
Is this your best one? This might be your best one. The lights changing to red, to Terry's bat-signal, gave me chills.
"The Batman has returned." That whole scene goes so hard.
"Where there is 'apathy,' 'greed,' 'corruption,' 'power,' there is 'hope,' 'honor,' 'courage,' and 'justice.' HOLY SHIT.
No, yeah, it's your best one yet.
And my non-George Clooney fancast for Batman Beyond Bruce was always Jim Caviezel before I found out he was weird and stupid, so that sucks.
Actually, never mind, it should be Matthew Fox.
idk about this, it rifs on some of the basic ideas spiderverse. the unearned mantel, the unworthyness, the luck. it’s just good, but i feel like some of these ideas can be changed. even the end, feels like the final battle with kingpin in spiderverse.
I think a lot of that is inevitable with a legacy character, but it could definitely go that way.
@@kingofhearts3185 absolutely no denying that, but there’s space for a better story, the single part i hated the most was bruce and the bat family being so shitty to mcginnis is wildly out of character.
@@josereyes-ze7ll I agree. It made for a nice Jason moment, but that wouldn't have any setup in a standalone project without heavy exposition. Not to mention being so heavily contrived. You could just have Bruce get cold feat and keep the yelling. But otherwise I like the story.
Great job!
Maybe Kurt Russel could play an older version of Bruce Wayne, but if given a good script like yours.
Why not Peter Weller?
@@master-of-many-fandoms2020 Who?
@@michaellucejr.6374 He played Robocop back in the day and even voiced an older Bruce Wayne in the animated adaptations of The Dark Knight Returns.
@@master-of-many-fandoms2020 Oh, I never saw Robocop
I did see the dark knight returns but it wasn’t really my favorite adaptation of Batman but it was good
The Jason and Terry moment was so good
41:05 The surge of serotonin I get whenever I hear the Beyond theme is ridiculous. It should NOT go that hard but I'm SOOOOO glad it does
I really enjoyed watching this, but there's a few parts of this prewrite that really bother me.
Terry's dad's death being an accident rather than a part of a cover up changes a lot about his dynamic with Bruce. It's what causes Bruce to open up that door in Rebirth, what causes Bruce to let him in. It forces Bruce into a position where he both is able to sympathize with Terry for his loss and feel partially responsible for it as it never would have happened if he continued to run his company and fend off Powers' hostile takeover. It highlights to him that Bruce Wayne's retreat from the world is just as damaging to Gotham as Batman's.
One thing that I really appreciated about Batman Beyond was how sparingly they used Bruce's original rogues gallery. I feel like forcing Bane into Terry's story and pushing out Blight, Terry's most iconic and best developed foe, doesn't really work for me. It makes it feel less like Terry stands on his own or that Gotham needs a new Batman if he only has to deal with Bruce's geriatric sloppy seconds.
Derek Powers usage in this also feels fairly weak. He just feels like a generic business man, he loses a lot of those signature feelings of collected cunning and smug charm he exudes. Making him a nepo baby is a choice that, while understandable from a commentary perspective (as you yourself outlined), serves to make him feel less competent and therefore threatening. I think the nepotism commentary (and commentary on superhero legacy) would be better saved to be used on his son Paxton Powers, who wasn't well explored in the original show anyway.
I do like the idea of Powers have influence over the GCPD, but I feel like keeping the police a public institution actually makes a stronger commentary. It highlights the ways corporations and billionaires are able to exert power over and contort public resources to their own benefit and help stymie reform efforts in a broken system. Essentially how that culture you talk about of all the bad apples is able to flourish partly because it benefits people like Powers.
On the inclusion of the other Bat-Family characters, I feel like most of them would be better served in a sequel that focuses on their relationship with Terry after he's already established. We as fans already know Terry and we know them, but for most people this would be an introduction to most of them. It would be easy for the story to lose either focus or weight by trying to introduce too many characters at once. Though I did love that little scene with Jason Todd, and feel validated that I'm not the only one to make the connection that Terry's story heavily parallels his own.
You mentioned in the video that killing Dick Grayson has become a trope. I get your reasoning for doing so, but I still think the existence of that trope makes it feel more predictable and makes it feel like it looses weight.
The scene with Terry basically calling out Bruce for his failings feels a bit generic and on the nose. For a lot of legacy characters or mantle passes it's very common to have the new character rail at the failings of the old, but it doesn't tend to endear them very much to the audience. It feel like you're giving him a hill he never had to climb in the original by doing so, that he literally has to prove that he's a "better" Batman rather than just being Batman. The setting itself shows Bruce's failures, having a scene were a character literally yells it out at him feels redundant and preachy. It also doesn't really fit Bruce and Terry's dynamic where they do like and respect each other, with their disagreements instead mostly coming form how they approach problems or situations.
Overhaul I enjoyed getting to hear someone else's ideas for a Batman Beyond movie, a thought experiment just about every fan has run through at some point. It really got to me think about and examine Batman Beyond more, and why I connected with it in the first place.
Can you please make a number 2 of this. This was perfect
Amazing as always 🎉🔥
....Now write the sequels (Batman Beyonder, Batman Beyondest)
no..just no. u lost me at bruce pulls the trigger. aiming the gun is one thing but the fact that bruce wpuld be willing to shoot someone... no ur just stupid for thinking that would be a good idea in the movie
Have you seen the first episode of Batman beyond? That’s literally what happens in the first episode.
I feel like the solution to the problem you have is that the police have no hope to challenge the corruption, there is no hope in going against the system
But Batman, Batman is different, he gives hope to everyone in Gotham, the people who are too scared to fight against the broken system of society
At 13:13 it’s the latter pronunciation of ‘Akira’ that’s more accurate to how a Japanese person would say it. But I still say it like “ah-KEY-ra”most of the time, because most people in the US know it that way. Most have no idea what movie I’m talking about when I try to pronounce it correctly.
Dropping banger after banger, would love to see your take on a Green Arrow story after this lol
For whether or not Terry should be his son I like his as his son especially the episode. Because it makes him question if he actually did have a choice in being Batman or not. And that be the end it wasn’t his blood that made him Batman. But his actions and his choices.
Honestly sounds better as a TV series
35:29 right as he said “there’s someone he has to talk to first” i got a mint mobile ad that started with “hey, ryan reynolds here”
As much as i like your pitch, it just feels like a lot is going even if this were for a near 3 hour live action movie. Derek Powers should be the overarching villain for a trilogy of Batman Beyond films. Judging by the concept art, Inque could have been the villain for the first movie, so I think building up to Derek Powers aka Blight by having the villains be a result of his corrupt company is a great way to set him up. As for the Bat-Family, the first movie should solely be Bruce and Terry story with the rest of the Bat-Family appearing in the sequels. The first to return in the second movie should be Barbara, Dick, Jason, Katherine, and Tim, and in the third movie, Damian, Stephanie, Cassandra, Luke, and Harper some would support Terry being Batman, others would be indifferent or against it. Part 2 would have an empire strikes back style ending, with part 3 being what I like to call Batman: No Way Home
Tbf, since the spider-verse comparison is right there, there's no reason Inque couldn't play a role similar to Prowler in that movie, acting as the main source of aggression between the hero and antagonists for most of the film but ultimately working for the actual final villain
This a banger and I know bangers
These alternate universes needs to stop misusing Dick Grayson. Let my boy live 🥺
Okay but a Burton directed animated (computer or stop motion) Batman Beyond would be crazy,especially if it was directly in his Batman universe
Burton does gothic well. Cyberpunk is not something I want in his style
I think he could mix the styles well. Maybe have the gothic there, and have the cyberpunk theme kind of infecting the gothic theme.
@@constructking8850 nah, Batman beyond has to have the dominant aesthetic and themes of cyberpunk. The gothic style doesn’t really exist anymore at that point
I've been thinking of what a Batman Beyond film would be like for years, and I've always just pulled mainly from the TV show thinking that it was the best way to tell the story. But holy shit was I wrong! You were able to blend in elements from the show while also making it uniquely its own canon. I especially loved the inclusion of the Bat-family and how they were all respected. For years I always wondered how an older Bat-family would feel about Bruce's decision to hang up the cowl and leave the city to become Neo Worse...I'll see myself out. But seriously, these are people who all shared a common mission and the majority of there lives together, and I love how you brought them back in. Great video man, definitely one of my favorites!
I feel like Defoe would make an incredible old batman
i think mark hammil would be incredible as an older bruce. idk if it’s something he’s be willing to do, but i think he’s the best choice. best fit animated, but live action i think he’d skill kill it.
if it’s animated i could also see keanu killing it
I like Damian being Dick Grayson's body guard reminds me of their budding friendship during Dick's stint as Batman
dude write a whole trilogy holy shit this is amazing
I have to give it to you dude, I didn't think you would top to the rightwing pitch but this was really really good
im working on a comic called get Polarizzed, i am the writer but me and my friends are the artists, he works on the scenery and far shots, when i am more like the close up, charecture and fight scene artist, we arnt even done with the script, or all of the charecters in mind but we know where the general story is gonna go, There is forsure gonna be some twists and turns in the plot, but forshadowed, but i think by issue 10 its gonna be a banger, when its out and published (we are gonna finish the first 15, then publish simoutaniuosly, so theres not much waist and then publish the next 10) id like to send you a free copy of all of them and you could possibly reveiw it so i know, what to work on and if i should rewrite the first issues or keep going on it, as a true comic book nerd id love to see what you think. Thanks for the oppurtunity if you take or not, either way, ypur getting a free copy sense your a huge insparasion
I adore these prewrite videos so much; they're so much of an inspiration to me as they are beautiful fanmade stories brimming with so much passion for the medium of comics. Keep it up with these awesome videos!! :]
I have loved watching your prewrites for a while now, but this is just something else. I LOVE this idea for a story. The way you incorporated the members of the bat family is so seamless and impactful; definitely not just throwing them in there for lip service. I would watch the hell out of this movie.
Before I finish the video Dick's masked bodyguard is 100% Damian I'm calling it.
Edit- *I FUCKIN KNEW IT!* less goooo🔥🔥🔥
I know it's gonna be peak 🔥
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i feel like since it would’ve been an animated film like spider-verse, i feel as if, and I know this casting has been done to death, but so genuinely believe Timothee Chalamet would be good for this role. I don’t see him as Nightwing or whatever in live action, not even a little bit. But I did see an interview from Timothee saying that The Dark Knight got him into acting and due to his rising acting career, I feel like he wouldn’t accept anything less than ACTUALLY Batman, but I don’t see him as Bruce Wayne. Terry would be PERFECT for him. also since Conroy is out of the question (God rest his beloved soul) the next obvious casting would be Michael Keaton. He does have a good voice, especially now in his old age.
I'm watching the video I promise your visual elements didn't go to waste
41:07 for a second it almost fell like terry was going to go super saiyan
Real!!!
Da king is back baby he neva miss we're eating good today y'all
Dude this was fucking hype! This video elevated my heart rate. I love how you incorporated the bat family.
In my mind I've always imagined a live action Terry McGuinness to be similar to Keanu Reeves as Neo in the first Matrix
Sir, it is pronounced Akira, not Akira.
I've said this a lot in the chat but plz sonic 3 and superman prewrite videos. Plz notice this troy
Edit: plz like this so he notices my requests bc these would be awesome
he made a superman prewrite!
He explained things that he wanted recently, but not an exact prewrite
The Jokers helping out gives a major Dark Knight Returns vibe
Troyoboyo17 can you rewrite Hulk 2003, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, Captain Marvel, and Superman Returns
Tanner Buchanan as Terry would be so dope
I personally think Tanner would be a great fit for Jason Todd/Red Hood
I really like this, although I feel like more could be done with Bane. I don't know his ending just didn't feel satisfying but otherwise good!
i feel so called out for playing fortnite while listening to the premiere
The original Japanese name is Ákira, and the Americanized version is AkÍra. Kind of how Westerners call the King of the Monsters GodzÍlla, but in Japanese it's Gójira. You also might have played a little game called Ninja Gaidén, and not Ninja Gay-dun.
(I'm aware you probably know this and were just doing the bit for the engagement but also it's a great video and I don't mind giving you that engagement lmao)
You are amazing man, literally got chills just listening to you speak your story. Please keep it up!!
Nah, cuz ending the movie with the words from the shows opening is PEAK CINEMA! Honestly, this a really good interpretation of the world. BB fans like myself have seen the show so we know how things play out, so putting your own spin on it where even we wouldn't know how it would play out was a fun ride.
2:25 For what it's worth, I get excited every time I see a new video from this channel, and I never watch it as just background noise
E-van-jel-ion?!
No sir.
E-van-gel-ion.
If I could suggest just one thing to this pitch it would be that we don't put Damien in just a black suit. A lot of time has passed and I think at this point he should've grown into a new identity. I propose that in this beyond timeline, Damien hasn't been given the blessing of wearing the batsuit, so he's developed a suit of his own, one that is reminiscent of the beyond suit, but not the same. I think in this timeline Damien Wayne is taking up the mantle of Red X (this is a stupid nonsense suggestion but seeing Red X again in any form would just make me so happy)
Can you please make a JSA movie
#MaketheBatmanBeyondMovie. #FireZaslav. #RestoretheWBLegoVerse. #ReleaseCoyotevsAcme. 10:18.
The Arkham Knight beyond suit is cool and I don't care what anyone says 🤷
My idea for the jokers is to have one of them be a piss take of Jared Leto's joker... say a pretentious actor gets way to into researching the character and decides to become a criminal. I'd maybe give him an army of unhinged punchline fangirls too
We need a live action Batman beyond movie in the DCU today a mix of noir and cyberpunk just imagine Batman in Blade runner city and ink should definitely be the main villain I think the reason they never got to make the animated Batman beyond movie is that James Gunn has plans to make a live action Batman beyond movie
Loved the video it was great and personally I would love to see more elseworld ideas from you which aren't connected to other superhero projects like Clark: A superman story
I think Jeffery dean morgan would make a great older Bruce..i feel like they were setting him up to be batman in bvs but never went for it so would be nice to give him a chance
So fucking ready for this you already know its gonna be a banger
I didn't know anything about Batman Beyond but after this I really wish they would make this movie! great video!
Obviously, Keanu Reeves as Old Man Bruce.
Jokes aside, I think Troy Baker could potray him
2.5 k views in 8 hours. Glad I found you the other day
I think Bruce's speech to Terry should go a bit more like this
Bruce: Being batman isn't about being mad at the world and taking that out on people with violence. Being batman is about rising above tragedy and finding meaning in pain. It's about taking that trauma, that anger that rage in your soul and using it change into something more. Something better you don't need to be a billionaire or have some kind of "blood right" to be batman. You just need to have the will to do what is right and never give up.