What I Want From a New Batman Arkham Game
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So, it’s been 9 long years since we last got a new Batman: Arkham game. Rocksteady’s work with Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, and Arkham Knight, as well as WB Montreal’s Batman: Arkham Origins, were groundbreaking and led to some of the best superhero games ever made.
Gotham Knights and "Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League" tried to do the same, but they just weren’t able to scratch that itch for a multitude of reasons. And so I know I’ve been waiting for another dedicated Batman game that can recapture that magic. There was recently a new VR game announced in "Batman: Arkham Shadow" but what about something more traditional?
But what could a New Batman Arkham Game look like? Would it follow the events of Arkham Knight or Arkham Origins, and maybe introduce Robin? And do we even need one in the first place?
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0:00 - Intro
0:40 - Gentlebands
1:54 - The Arkham Games
3:45 - After Arkham
6:35 - Do We NEED Another Batman Game?
10:35 - The Story
13:29 - Combat
16:18 - Co-Op
17:29 - The Games Industry is Broken
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hey that guy kind of looks like the riddler
I was just about to say “Is that guy Jim Carrey?”
hey that riddler kind of looks like guy (man's sidekick)
Hey, this guy kinda looks like the riddler
Yeah “kind of”. We all know your true identity!
Lemme get your autograph big bro 🙏
I swear, if Ratcatcher turns out to be Joker in disguise...
He's been confirmed not to be
@@HunterRamirez-rl3bythey also said Arkham Knight wasn’t Jason so…
Rumor is Rat King is going to be Wrath in the end.
I find it kind of funny how the Black Mask Joker twist has traumatised so many DC fans that we're afraid Joker is secretly every new villain.
I remember I thought that the Court could have secretly been controlled by the Joker at one point during the Gotham Knights leadup.
Yes really
@@maxkeegan9183 I mean If Joker was Controlling the Court while woukd have been horrible would it have been much less horribke the the version we got?
Is the there a lore reason Rocksteady hasn’t created another Arkham game? Are they stupid?
Ahahaha we are everywhere!!
Down with the Bat!! Hail to Man!!
They're too busy being shut down.
Cause they finished their trilogy
The story is done
What they should have done was move on with different hero’s
A flash game, a robin/nightwing game, a Superman game, a wonder woman game
But alas
More like why should they do another Arkham game? There is only that much you can do with same idea over and over. VR could bring some life, but i think it will be too similar to regular versions.
I'm fine with Robin in Arkham but the shaved head was a terrible decision
They were too focused on making him look cool, as opposed to being written as a cool character.
@@somerandolad And it didn't even make him look cool, tim's normal hair looks WAY cooler
@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868His red Robin costume from his 2009 solo series goes HARD. Kinda sad that now Tim is just Robin (which is weird cuz Damian already is Robin and is the official Robin from today, sidelining Tim) and wasn't allowed to grow like Dick and Jason with a new mantle and supporting cast (Dick with Blüdhaven, Jason with The Outlaws, Barbara becaming Oracle and being the connected with the Batfamily and Birds of Prey, etc.)
He's not bald. He has a shaved head. Shaved! That's a hairdo. Case closed.
@@somerandolad Funny though he's actually written very well and accurate to how he's supposed to be written. Which makes the hair thing even more baffling. If he was an edgier Robin like Jason or Damien maybe it would make more sense.
Or even better… MAKE A FUCKING SUPERMAN GAME!
Agreed! Superman is LONG OVERDUE for his own videogame with same level of passion, quality gameplay mechanics and compelling narrative as the Arkham games (minus SSKTJL) or the Insomniac Spiderman trilogy eo far with how well they incorporate the character of Spidermans powers, understand the character and gives us some of the best Spiderman stories today, and Superman as a character deserves that more than anyone if you ask me
he also made a video for a superman game! it’s really good
YES!!!
Too much Batman
There is too much Batman we need something new!
Honestly a Green Arrow Arkham Style game that also features Arsenal,Speedy,Conor Hawke, and Red Arrow(Emiko Queen) would be amazing honestly
This right here is the best way to go on as we know Green Arrow can do good cuz he did start the Arrowverse,or a blue beetle game if we going the underrated heroes route
@@Pokeblueblur Honestly, if Arhkam Batman teamed up with Green Arrow and Ted Kord Blue Bettle to save Justice Leage from Brainiac's control while Teen Titans are saving people in Metropolis that'd be awesome.
@@kendi5391 fr well imagine a teen titans spin off game after that you could play as beast boy!!!, robin, nightwing,etc like that's the only game I'd love to see other than the JL members
@@Pokeblueblur I think a diffrent studio should make it, like when only superpowered characters Rocksteady made playable are I guess Deathstroke and King Shark, I'm not sure if they're up to the task.
I honestly hate serious Green Arrow, like even if the subject matter is super serious ( which it should be) he's still a happy-go lucky, quippy type of person. His relationship to Speedy is more like when Dick Grayson was batman and Damien Wayne was Robin. It's a hilarious, fun loving person who wants to see the world be set right constantly fucking with his teenage, stick in the mud side-kick to try to cheer him up or to amuse himself. It would really have to be done right and I really want it to be. Green Arrow a lot of the time is also an even more ground level superhero than batman is. He'll kick it with the big guys often, but he's not constantly facing existential threats to humanity or the universe or multiverse at large.
I’d give anything for an official sequel to Arkham Origins with Robin heavily involved. The Batfamily was so underused in the Rocksteady games.
Yes please. I want to see Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, and Jason Todd be handled in universe in their own games where they star as the 2nd half of the dynamic duo.
Bad ending:
You get a new Arkham game that's not for VR!
...with the monetization system and battle pass of Kill The Justice League
I'll take it
And Joker as the main villain.
Man Ham City is the best Arkham game to date...
Man Ham Aslume comes close tbf
Ham World was epic
Definitely
Two Face would make a great villain for an Arkham Origins sequel because he was still Harvey Dent in the first game and the other games didn’t do much with him
Coupled with the history Dick Grayson has with him...recipe for success!!!
Yes! I also want to see a LOT of villains that we haven't got yet in the Arkhan Series & some that didn't have a lot of appearences in the series.
Troyo PLEASE do that long 4 hour Arkham retrospective
I think I might be the minority for this, but I would love to see a Green Lanturn game if not a Superman game
Guy Gardner, Hal Jordan, or Jon Stewart?
@@xJohnwheatiesxthe green one
@@xJohnwheatiesx Simon Baz 🗿
So I will quibble a bit on the idea that the Arkham series reinforces Bat-god “he doesn’t need anybody”. The main narrative of Arkham Origins is that Batman needs other people in order to succeed. And that in Arkham Knight, a few of the major challenges Batman faces is because he isn’t allowing other people to help him for fear that they’ll get hurt. Which winds up getting them hurt anyways.
Great video though! I desperately want something in the Arkhamverse. Whether it be a new Arkham game, or a similar game for a different DC character, which is what I really want
But like the entire end of arkham knight is him abandoning everyone outside of Alfred and doing solo batman adventures.
Basically reinforcing that he needs to work alone in the arkham verse which definetly supports batgod.
I love arkham knight but it's, imo, what caused the whole batgod shit.
@@Elephantsaresupreme
There’s no way Arkham Knight is what caused the batgod stuff. I mean around the same time Batman: Endgame released and in that comic Batman soloed the Justice League. There are other examples of comics, so I think blaming Arkham Knight for starting the batgod stuff is wrong.
I mean, considering batmans late in his career in all of the rocksteady games, his bat family get very little airtime. But I give it a pass since they’re games
@@Elephantsaresupreme City too! The whole crux of the ending is Selina saving him before Alfred and Oracle talk sense into him to stop Protocol 10. Tim saves him in the DLC too (thanklessly, classic Tim)
We should get a new Arkham game so that the Alsume can regain a bit of its sanity, they deserve a new joke
Troy, hear me out on this: A Green Arrow Arkham-style game. But it would be more long-ranged in terms of combat.
You could have a customizable arrow quiver where you select 5-6 types of trick-arrows before gameplay. And as you complete missions, you unlock more variants which could work better for different enemy-types. Like brutes would be more sensitive to ice-arrows or explosive-arrows.
And maybe you could only have a limited number of arrows and you had to be strategic in how you used each arrow. And after each encounter your quiver would “recharge” (Sorta like your health-bar in the Arkham games)
There would of course be hand-to-hand combat and thwacking enemies with your bow but it would less effective.
Yawn
This could work
And I really like watching those long form videos. I would love to hear your take on the Arkham trilogy, just one game or any long form video about anything
erm i think you mean the arkham quadrilogy (don’t forget about origins)
This video has been out for 9 minutes, SO WHY THE F*** DOES IT HAVE 487 VIEWS!?!?!?!?
PLEASE make that Arkham retrospective!!!
Gunn has said that in his new Universe there will be cannon games and im here for it.
Idk if it'll be connected to the Arkham series, but I can't to see what's instored with the DCU.
@@davidchittick6783 probably not connected to the arkhamverse lol
Please do make a super long arkham retrospective
Honestly I’m kinda glad that ratcatcher is getting some light he’s a coolish villain and a pre-mask scarecrow has always interested me
Omg that guy looks like the riddler
The devs of Arkham Shadow confirmed Ratcatcher was a devote follower of the Rat King, so they aren't the same
I'd honestly just prefer a batfamily game by rocksteady. Gotham Knights is way better than a lot of people give it credit for, but it did obviously lack a lot of important things to make it a worthy 'batman' game. A batfam game in the style of the arkham games would be a DREAM. Honestly, my preferred setup would probably be having all the robins be the playable characters except jason, giving us Dick, Tim, Damian and Steph, with Babs as Oracle.
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If you think that Rocksteady is still capable of doing justice to a Bat-family game...you just haven't been paying attention
There was good game somewhere in Gotham Knights but its problem was its repetiveness and how it just looked meh compared to the Arkham games
@@Kalel2.0 I think it looked fine, my main problem was just that everything felt like there was one extra step between every action that made everything feel clunkier. Gliding with barbara always felt just a bit slower than it should, took one extra move every time I wanted to gain speed, made everything just a bit more tedious than it needed to be. Switching between enemies in combat, using a heavy move vs a light move, getting onto the motorcycle, riding the motorcycle, everything was just the tiniest bit more tedious than what it should've been
Gotham Knights Court of Owls were botched, the villians plans were lame though liked the designs, and they had Batman murder the living cpurt of owls members via blowing them up.
I'm not mad that Arkham Shadow is a VR game because I really enjoyed Arkham VR for what it was. My main issue with it is that it's exclusive to a single headset.
Agreed it needs a PC VR release
It's being developed by a Meta-owned studio. It would be a Meta exclusive or it would not exist at all
@@jacobp249 That's true but it doesn't make the way meta does exclusives any less frustrating, especially with how often they've been releasing updated quest models that basically do nothing new from the old ones and make new games unable to be played on the old ones just to make you buy the new one
Maybe theyll port it to other systems eventully i thino they did it with Blackgate.
Facebook are the only ones paying devs to make VR games. What do expect devs to do?
That hitop films reference at 15:19 caught me so off guard lol
I would totally watch a super long arkham analysis
I NEED more superhero games where the world reacts to the kind of hero that you choose to be. Give me a Hulk game where the Avengers try to stop me if I cause too much damage, or a Captain America game where if you go rogue against the government they try to replace you with US Agent or something like that
"Officer balls" truly the greatest line of all time
A sequel to Origins I think Twoface should be the main villain. He was underused in the Arkham games. Bring back Troy Baker as Harvey/Twoface
Yes!!!
I dont think ive ever seen another in depth review of the arkham games so that would be cool to see
13:40 “AH AH HE SAID IT, HE SAID IT!”
Really enjoyed this vid glad it showed up in my recommended
I am literally begging for a new arkham game. I am such a big DC fan and yet I skipped SSKTJL And Gotham Knights which if you told 15 year old me. I woulda scoffed. I also loved Batgod era hahaha
Honestly, Gotham Knights is 100% worth playing. It's a slow start but if you just rush knighthood for your preferred character, it instantly becomes a really fun game and the story and character dynamics is easily enough to make it worth playing
I love Gotham knights
this is me begging you to make a retrospective review of the arkham games where you go super in-depth!
Joker would work awesome as a side mission. Imagine a quest investigating weird “smiling fish” in the Gotham Marina.
The story sounds amazing! I would definitely play that game if it was made. Personally, i think they should make games for each member of the Bat Family still centered in Rocksteady's Batman universe like a Nightwing game, a Red Hood game, a Red Robin game, a Catwoman game, even for characters that haven't appeared before like a Batwoman game.
Batwoman game where Killer Moth is the main villain would go hard ngl
@@kendi5391 Definitely would :)
Also a Batgirl game could definitely work as well, with Stephanie Brown taking the mantle and Barbara, as Oracle, would be her mentor.
@@onepresence9460 I'd prefer to play as Cassandra Cain Batgirl and Stephanie as Spoiler.
@@kendi5391 That could also work :)
I love the long videos! Please bring us a retrospective on the Arkham games!!!
Just give me more Wally Wingert as the Riddler. His voice is the one I hear in my head for Riddler in the comics.
As a huge fan of hour-long videos on why a piece of art is cool, I'll be down if you did an Arkham retrospective series
I love the long videos! I have seen your msm2 review over 6 times
The devs confirmed that Rat King is not rat catcher but he has a set of followers in the way that riddler did in the movie and that rat catcher is influenced by the rat king and takes on a similar identity to empower himself
god please I would absolutely love to see you dive into all of the arkham games and their treatment of the characters especially
i would love to watch a lengthy arkham retrospective!!!!
3:34 please make that video. I’d watch that a dozen times
I LOVE YOUR LONGER VIDEOS I LISTEN TO THEM WHILE I CLEAN MY ROOM
anyway that means you should make that long introspective vid about the arkham games so that my room will be clean :)
My day gets better when Troy drops a video
Seeing an Arkham retrospect from troyboy sounds good👍🏻
Long form arkham breakdowns please!!!!
Yeah I’d watch some in depth analyses of the Arkham games!
I am definitely in the minority, but I dont mind Shadow being VR. Sure, it's exclusive to the Quest 3, but I bought a ps5 just to play Spiderman, so the exclusivity doesn't bother me. Getting to be in the perspective of Batman is definitely worth the money for me. It probably also helps that I already have a quest 3.
do the Arkham retrospectives!!! I’d watch them all
I think it'd be cool to see riddler as the major antagonist of one of these games. I think it'd work even better in a prequel. Id love to see what a big full on main story worthy arkham riddler scheme is like.
I would so love a batman Arkham retrospective from troyoboyo
I would absolutely watch you breaking down the Arkham games, also only 4 minutes in so I don’t know if you mention this, but you writing a potential Arkham sequel/ spin-off would also be awesome
Just to let you know guys what Troy gets wrong is this video is that Rocksteady was never planned to make a Dark Knight video game, other game studios were and at the time EA were tied to doing it. You can find many videos on that all over RUclips about it. Rocksteady was tied to make a superhero video game but when The Dark Knight games stopped being in development they got the green light to make a Batman game. I hope this helps👍🏻
id love a retrospective of the old games!!!
I personally love long videos! I can't count how many times ive listened to the Spiderman college trilogy and other prewrites during commutes!
im not seeing enough appreciation for the edit at 17:15 chat that's one of my favorite clips ever
Yes, we fucking love super long videos
I love watching retrospective videos , especially on games that I love and every take is different. I’ll be looking forward to it. 😁
I'd love to watch your retrospect on the arhkam games, your long videos are just as well made and fun to watch as shorter content.
Your videos are such a good vibe. I appreciate your opinions and how much you stan green arrow. I throw your channel on autoplay at work all the time keep doing you boss man.
yes please make an arkham retrospective would love to hear your thoughts on all the games😃
For a court of owls based batman game, it would really be fun to have a system similar to Assassins Creed Odyssey's Cultist system where many of them appear as regular civilians and you can collect evidence to find out who they are before taking them down.
I think a Batman 1966 game would be fun as a direct contrast to Arkham's series, its flaws have become too much to bear at this point.
I, for one, would love to see you make a retrospective for the Arkham series!
Okay complete coincidence but when I was thinking of making a vid as a "Battle for the cowl" Arkham game I called it Arkham Legacy too!
I would love a sifu like game where you play as wildcat and you go around the city beating thugs and having cameos of black canary or green arrow
A Wildcat game would go so hard holy shit
Rather than the court, I'd quite like to see something like the Children of Arkham from the Telltale game. A rising of disgruntled workers and poor people targeting Wayne and the other elites of Gotham. You could not only then include the asylum in the game, making it their HQ and letting players revisit the iconic map all these years later, but also have them challenge Batman's identity. Dick may even agree with the Children, based on his own upbringing in the circus, and this story could be why he ends up leaving to become Nightwing
There is nothing I want more than long form videos from the goat of super hero RUclips imo
I’d be down for an Arkham retrospective!!!
Rocksteady should make a TMNT game.
For sure would want to see an in depth Arkham review
If we really need another Batman game just make it about Cass, pretty much everyone agrees shes the best candidate to take over after Bruce yet there hasnt been any kind of major media depicting that.
Everyone wanted a Beyond Arkham game, the game Rocksteady was working on using Damian as Batman
I’d love to see you review of the Arkham games!
one idea i’ve had for a different combat style for Batman is to get RGG Studios to make a Yakuza game with Batman in it, like how they made a Fist of the North Star game (actually have no idea if that game has Yakuza combat tbh)
well, actually my idea is for them to make a Cassandra Cain in Hong Kong game. but that’ll never happen because we just neeeeddddddd a game with Barbara, Dick, Jason, and Tim again!!!!
“PC port for Knack 2” is a beautifully niche reference
I really want to see those Arkham Videos. You’re one of my favorite RUclipsrs.
Troyoboyo, please do a video on what a TMNT Batman Arkham type game would look like. I have so many ideas for gameplay, visual style, character design- all I need is just a good story. I want to save city at war for dlc, and include Return To New York (just without the mutants yet) and NO KRANG. I want it to be a grounded story, like how the game TMNT Out Of The Shadows started with the purple dragons, then moved on to Shredder. Gameplay is mostly like Arkham, but also like the game Sifu. Free flow combat mixed with environmental attacks, plus single and team finishers (like how Insomniac Spiderman did the finishers) and you can do certain button combinations to do different animations. It has strong attacks, light attacks, a jump button (obviously), and a counter button and a projectile throw with the left bumper, the right trigger can be used to actually do your finisher. Please do this!!!
I would love a long Arkham retrospective fwiw
I would love a long Arkham vid
I would love to see u talk in depth bout the Arkham series. Also have u been seeing all the Superman set photos?
You’re one of the few RUclipsrs whose videos I watch no matter the subject, so please make that arkham series retrospective 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I played the multiplayer mode on origins with my buddy and I tell ya. The panic in his voice playing as a thug as I glide kicked him as Robin was so funny. We talk about playing the origins pvp mode to this date. It was ridiculously fun. Vise versa him getting to be bane and chasing me down as a thug in the joker gang was terrifying. Good times. I really think WB would be able to put out a good few games in the origins timeline and make fans happy. Rodger Craig Smith Batman meeting and helping Dick through his trauma would be amazing especially with some Grayson missions supported by Alfred making the transition feel comfy. Close the gap with villains that were only ever bios and cameos in the series. If WB would embrace the WBM entry in the series and make origins canon, we could have tons of content for the next 10 yrs ( just based on their release rate)
Finally, an Arkham Sequel wishlist that isn't just "Basically Akham City again but with MY favorite villain as the main antagonist"
An Arkham retrospective would be a certified hood classic
the way you mentioned Batman's detective work and not mention BATMAN TELLTALE SERIES IS A CRIME
I’m glad you brought up hi fi rush since when I played it, the combat definitely reminded of Arkham’s, I fell for it so fast
You gotta release that guitar background instrumental I’ll even pay for it
I'm dying for a new Arkham game but anything post Knight would be so weird without Conroy now. I would most like to see a revival of that Arkham Beyond game, as Batman Beyond would work so well in this universe. Maybe Roger Craig Smith could respectfully pull off an older Bruce in that as hes great in Origins
Hey huge fan of your stuff! And no yeah absolutely, I think going either Beyond with Terry/Damian or doing an Arkham Origins 2 that's a sort of semi-reboot with Roger Craig Smith would be ideal, I've never really wanted to see anything post-Knight and it would feel wrong with Conroy.
I haven't had the chance to play Sifu yet because my PS4 broke 3 years ago and my laptop is too bad to run any games, so I'll need a PC before I can ever try it,
BUT
from what I saw it is practically a Spiritual Successor to the Capcom PS2 game "God Hand"
I can highly recommend you giving that game a shot, although Sifu does seem to iterate on it in a couple smart ways and make dealing with multiple enemies at once a lot more fair and comfortable
I don’t think we can do an Arkham Game without Kevin Conroy, I’d be interested to see a new line of games that could focus on a new Batman with new takes on these characters. And maybe focus on the relationship of Batman and Robin.
Edit: And it turns out I should of watched the video before commenting, but I still think it would be fun for a reboot with new takes on the villains
I mean if you want Batman games to flesh out Batman and Robin amd with out Kevin Conroy just do Origins sequals with Roger and Troy Baker as Joker it would be basickly printing money.
Def need the Arkham vid 🙏🏼
I really enjoyed the later games that had sword enemies along knife enemies. They can both be taken down the same way, meaning that you had to vary your timing based on which type was attacking.
I would watch that long Batman video man
I'd love to see you review the arkham games
I have a lot of love for how city made catwoman playable in the open world, it let you break up batmans story and also she plays a lot differently without the glider and traversing the open world feels like a completely different game
If they do make a superman game they should make lobo a dlc playable character, he can’t fly but he can use the bike and his missions are way more of a bullet hell shooter
I always wanted a battle for the cowl game where we see how everyone reacts to Batman being dead and seeing the impact it has on everyone
Someone should create a game where you start out as "robin" (unknown) and then the way you play,options for combat,weapons,upgrades and even gameplay choices and then as the game develops you start growing more towards the known Robins either becoming one or having characteristics from multiple. It could work like ghosts of tsushima for example how your choices would make you become a samurai or ghost like becoming dick or jason (again for example) also that way costumes can be implemented and endgame you could unlock a batman suit specifically tailored towards each robin
Please do an introspective on the Arkham games!
need the full retrospective