The C2000 has a compact 1000 size body, so the bodies are exactly the same. The spool on the C2000 is a larger diameter spool hence the little bit more line retrieval (specs on Shimano website). But the C2000S is a shallow spool.
I'm thinking of buying the Stradic 1000 or C2000HG. Both have the same body but C2000HG has bigger spool and takes 1/3 more line, not sure if it's overkill... I have thought about Daiwa's MQ reels, but I think it's a hassle to service these with a special tool and mess with the magseal oil. Also they'll start rattling after a couple of years so I'd prefer the Stradic's solid structure and serviceability.
3:30 first things first.. about the "play" in the knob, im with you, with daiwa is hot or miss, but.. cause there is a BIG but.. you are comparing a japanese made, $200 dollar reel to a maaaybe $100 dollar, chinese made, for the chinese market ( thats why it says "CS") reel.. so.. i dont know if its a fair comparison.
Daiwa has this problem for years for made in Vietnam, Thailand and China reels. The made in Japan (not JDM but actually made in Japan) Daiwa are done with precision. And honestly the handle knob play is probably the easiest to get it right. Even my $50 CDM reels have perfectly shimmed handles. So regardless what region of product you're comparing to... there's no excuse. Secondly, there's no made in Japan Shimano Stradic, it's a global model made in Malaysia and the quality control of Shimano even in budget range is good. That Red Fuego CS is also made in Vietnam in the same factory that the black and gold 2017/18 Exceler and Legalis LT were made. And yes my Exceler and Legalis both have handle play issue. CS stands for China Special doesn't mean lower quality but definitely lower than made in Japan. There's Daiwa bait casters for the CS and there's not a single CS reel that's actually made in China... Remember JDM doesn't mean made in Japan. I have the new generation 2023 Daiwa LT, about to make review vids. They are perfectly shimmed and there's so much more improvement. So Daiwa definitely upped their quality control game this time.
@@TTangOutdoors as i said, with daiwa is a hit or miss, tackle advisors pointed it out a couple of years ago while reviewing the laguna lt, that had no knob play, while his fuego lt had it, still u comparing 2 different tiers of reels or price brackets, if you will.. and one is twice as much expensive or even more. One thing i bet that the fuego has going on for it is the weight and the size of the main gear.. anyway..
I mean I could have brought in the Tatula LT in the video if that's more appropriate. About the same price. It's the same handle play that Daiwa LT is known for from that 2017-2019 batch of LT production. Just had a fuego laying on the table handy to explain this common issue in Daiwa reels. Handle play is more of a nuisance than anything. Daiwa reels to me are perfect minus the handle play. It has become one thing I check on every new purchase. Thanks for commenting, appreciate it!
@@TTangOutdoorsYeah I'm a huge daiwa fan have used a bunch of reels low to high end. Found that the vietnamese and chinese made daiwa's are simply nowhere near the quality of the made in japan Daiwas. I use the Certate and Saltiga series currently. I have had issues with vietnamese daiwas with handle play and noisy bearings. For shimano I currently run the Vanquish and Stradic FM
I think vanford is way better however stradic is a good reel I want to buy daiwa caldia MQ LT 2000 SH or the ballistic MQ LT or stradic but I don’t know
Vanford is super lightweight yes but some people complain about the rigidity of the carbon body. The Stradic is a workhorse reel with solid aluminum body. Caldia MQ and Ballistic MQ are nearly identical reels with different paint job. And both having the zaion v carbon body still pretty strong but the stradic is stronger. The 3 reels are all saltwater rated too. I'm a Daiwa fan and I'd take the new tatula MQ over the ballistic for freshwater fishing.
Some of mine do a little noisy on the retrieve some absolutely quiet. I think there's some QA issue on the FM. But even with a little noise you would feel or hear it on the water fishing. There's the normal noise that the rotar naturally make when spinning very fast, that applies to all spinning reels it's a pleasure sound. But I think you're talking about the unpleasant noise like "za za za" or discrete da da da noise? Some of my FM has that...
@@TTangOutdoors for me out come from the box without anything load have little " za za za " 🤣 i though it was fron body not from pinion or main gear inside or bearing..mybe its just normal noise for all shimano spining..i have kastking zephyr 1000 but its more sillent compare with out come stradic fm..for smooth both of reel do same but ofcouse stradic more technology ☺️ thank for replying my comment
@@TTangOutdoors thanks mate for the info so im consider its normal for stradic family FL or FM...put the heighten shallow spool 2000 to my 1000hg also awesome for ajing fishing..
That would be ideal. Fresh water light casting and jigging from a boat or ice fishing. It's small but packed with the same features and technologies from the bigger sizes
I have a 2500SHG 5.8:1, i wish i had gone with the 2500SXG which is 6.2:1 and is lighter by 40grams. Shimano is bulletproof especially the higher end ones. there are lighter and smoother reels at this price range but nothing will beat the build quality.
Where do you buy the shallow spool models? I assume from Asia? Yeah I agree that the stradic is not aiming for a light weight reel but durability and power! Probably the best selling mid tier spinning reel right now!
It's a pain in the butt to get shallow spool Shimano or Daiwa in US and Canada. I've been buying most of my reels from Japan or China. A lot more to choose from.
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I have bought a Stradic FM1000HG 2023, and it is very good to use for casting
Great to hear! It is probably the most popular shimano reel right now.
I'm just wondering what is the difference between 1000HG and JDM C2000SHG (compact 1000 body with shallow spool). Same?
The C2000 has a compact 1000 size body, so the bodies are exactly the same. The spool on the C2000 is a larger diameter spool hence the little bit more line retrieval (specs on Shimano website). But the C2000S is a shallow spool.
I'm thinking of buying the Stradic 1000 or C2000HG. Both have the same body but C2000HG has bigger spool and takes 1/3 more line, not sure if it's overkill...
I have thought about Daiwa's MQ reels, but I think it's a hassle to service these with a special tool and mess with the magseal oil. Also they'll start rattling after a couple of years so I'd prefer the Stradic's solid structure and serviceability.
Stradic is one durable beast. Can never go wrong. The Tatula MQ is gonna be better for finesse fishing because of the lighter rotar.
I’m confused. We have the same one but my box says 6:1:1 yours is 6:0:1.. and mine is x protect and micro module while yours has Infinity drive etc.
Do you have the Stradic FM or Stradic FL?
which is better for trout size 1000 or 1000HG
1000
I got this reel too! The rest is diawa reels :)
I have this and the Soare BB and the rest are all Daiwa :)
3:30 first things first.. about the "play" in the knob, im with you, with daiwa is hot or miss, but.. cause there is a BIG but.. you are comparing a japanese made, $200 dollar reel to a maaaybe $100 dollar, chinese made, for the chinese market ( thats why it says "CS") reel.. so.. i dont know if its a fair comparison.
Daiwa has this problem for years for made in Vietnam, Thailand and China reels. The made in Japan (not JDM but actually made in Japan) Daiwa are done with precision. And honestly the handle knob play is probably the easiest to get it right. Even my $50 CDM reels have perfectly shimmed handles. So regardless what region of product you're comparing to... there's no excuse. Secondly, there's no made in Japan Shimano Stradic, it's a global model made in Malaysia and the quality control of Shimano even in budget range is good. That Red Fuego CS is also made in Vietnam in the same factory that the black and gold 2017/18 Exceler and Legalis LT were made. And yes my Exceler and Legalis both have handle play issue. CS stands for China Special doesn't mean lower quality but definitely lower than made in Japan. There's Daiwa bait casters for the CS and there's not a single CS reel that's actually made in China... Remember JDM doesn't mean made in Japan. I have the new generation 2023 Daiwa LT, about to make review vids. They are perfectly shimmed and there's so much more improvement. So Daiwa definitely upped their quality control game this time.
@@TTangOutdoors as i said, with daiwa is a hit or miss, tackle advisors pointed it out a couple of years ago while reviewing the laguna lt, that had no knob play, while his fuego lt had it, still u comparing 2 different tiers of reels or price brackets, if you will.. and one is twice as much expensive or even more. One thing i bet that the fuego has going on for it is the weight and the size of the main gear.. anyway..
@@TTangOutdoors it would be more apropriate to compare it with a nasci that is also in the $100 bracket..
I mean I could have brought in the Tatula LT in the video if that's more appropriate. About the same price. It's the same handle play that Daiwa LT is known for from that 2017-2019 batch of LT production. Just had a fuego laying on the table handy to explain this common issue in Daiwa reels. Handle play is more of a nuisance than anything. Daiwa reels to me are perfect minus the handle play. It has become one thing I check on every new purchase. Thanks for commenting, appreciate it!
@@TTangOutdoorsYeah I'm a huge daiwa fan have used a bunch of reels low to high end. Found that the vietnamese and chinese made daiwa's are simply nowhere near the quality of the made in japan Daiwas. I use the Certate and Saltiga series currently. I have had issues with vietnamese daiwas with handle play and noisy bearings. For shimano I currently run the Vanquish and Stradic FM
I want the larger one for Sturgeon fishing… What size is that?
This is 1000 size. You can get 5000 size for Sturgeon fishing.
@@TTangOutdoors cool!..thank you
I think vanford is way better however stradic is a good reel I want to buy daiwa caldia MQ LT 2000 SH or the ballistic MQ LT or stradic but I don’t know
Vanford is super lightweight yes but some people complain about the rigidity of the carbon body. The Stradic is a workhorse reel with solid aluminum body. Caldia MQ and Ballistic MQ are nearly identical reels with different paint job. And both having the zaion v carbon body still pretty strong but the stradic is stronger. The 3 reels are all saltwater rated too. I'm a Daiwa fan and I'd take the new tatula MQ over the ballistic for freshwater fishing.
@@TTangOutdoorsI’m fishing in saltwater wish from the three should I pick
the daiwa reels are also dezined for salt water
Ballistic or Caldia, either is fine
@@TTangOutdoors I think the caldia would be a better choice I don’t know
Mine out of the box have some noise on body when spin with more speed retrive its more noise no line tension..do u have same little noise?
Some of mine do a little noisy on the retrieve some absolutely quiet. I think there's some QA issue on the FM. But even with a little noise you would feel or hear it on the water fishing. There's the normal noise that the rotar naturally make when spinning very fast, that applies to all spinning reels it's a pleasure sound. But I think you're talking about the unpleasant noise like "za za za" or discrete da da da noise? Some of my FM has that...
@@TTangOutdoors for me out come from the box without anything load have little " za za za " 🤣 i though it was fron body not from pinion or main gear inside or bearing..mybe its just normal noise for all shimano spining..i have kastking zephyr 1000 but its more sillent compare with out come stradic fm..for smooth both of reel do same but ofcouse stradic more technology ☺️ thank for replying my comment
It could be uneven grease applied on the main gear or pinion. I've spun 5 FM 2 of them have a little noise the other 3 are perfectly silent.
@@TTangOutdoors thanks mate for the info so im consider its normal for stradic family FL or FM...put the heighten shallow spool 2000 to my 1000hg also awesome for ajing fishing..
It looks very small probably better suited for freshwater .
That would be ideal. Fresh water light casting and jigging from a boat or ice fishing. It's small but packed with the same features and technologies from the bigger sizes
Soare spool is from carbon, Stradic from aluminum thats the reason for the difference
Did you mean the rotar of the Soare is made out of carbon? Yeah that would be the difference.
I have a 2500SHG 5.8:1, i wish i had gone with the 2500SXG which is 6.2:1 and is lighter by 40grams. Shimano is bulletproof especially the higher end ones.
there are lighter and smoother reels at this price range but nothing will beat the build quality.
Where do you buy the shallow spool models? I assume from Asia? Yeah I agree that the stradic is not aiming for a light weight reel but durability and power! Probably the best selling mid tier spinning reel right now!
@@TTangOutdoors yeah here in korea they import every size and variety. Especially Shimano and daiwa
It's a pain in the butt to get shallow spool Shimano or Daiwa in US and Canada. I've been buying most of my reels from Japan or China. A lot more to choose from.
Is it ipx rated
Ipx8 rating
@@TTangOutdoors where did you get that from?
Get what from?
@@TTangOutdoors that it has ipx8
Saw that on Shimano website. Could be the Stradic SW... I'm not too sure.
1 have one same reel like this video
It's an awesome reel!
@@TTangOutdoors yeah
daiwa tatula mq lt is way better
Haha that will trigger some people. For light power finesse fishing Tatula has the upper hand
@@TTangOutdoors daiwas way better than shimano
Look at the fanboy you have become haha
@@TTangOutdoors you made me into this 😭
Haha nothing wrong with being a Daiwa fan. Welcome to the cool kids club