Using ACES in Blender | Short Tutorial
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2020
- Today, I briefly show you the barebones basics of using ACES in Blender
Setting up ACES: • Setup ACES in Blender
More information on ACES (Most helpful resource I know!)
chrisbrejon.com/cg-cinematogr... 
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HDRI - Utility Linear sRGB
Diffuse - Utility sRGB Texture
Non-color - Utility Raw
Good to see more stuff exploring Aces in Blender. You should also set, if "utility", for normal and tech maps to non-color.
8:13 For MacOS, the key stroke is 'Control + Option' to allow scrolling up with the mouse wheel.
Thanks for letting me know!
Great tutorial. I can't believe there isn't a checkbox for "use raw data" as opposed to having to scroll through that dreadful color space menu just to select "utility raw". Nuke has had this feature on read nodes for over a decade.
Yes thank you so much 🤩🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 hope to see more from you on ACES
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Great video!
You could do a next video and show how it works in practice, like how to add lights and set up a standard lighting and shading setup with an HDRI, and the right physically accurate camera settings, in order to achieve a PBR workflow.
4:43 another option to change the color space would be that with the mouse place in aces (first column, last option ) and then hit 3 times with the keyboard arrow down and finally hit enter and you will get it
Gracias, yo usaba linear, pero investigando y aprendiendo más sobre los aces, me decante por los aces, gracias por explicar como usarlos en blender n.n, yo soy muy novato en blender
I was about to ask you about the HDRI stuff haha. Great video, thanks for sharing this info!
Lol yeah I was getting a lot of comments about it so I decided to make this quick start guide. Also the name change to InLightVFX is great it's a good vfx sounding name
@@marioCazares Yeah, definitely going to be directing people to both your videos for these things. And thanks! Just wanted to define some more specific branding for the vfx work I do. Glad you like it.
Thanks so much o:
lol nice to see the hansaplatz as your hdri, i live there nearby
Oh wow that's awesome haha!
This is very helpful! Now i have question - how do i know which color space my textures, materials,hdris have been made at for choosing a proper input space in blender? Its ok if you download it online and have all the infos,but if it just random textures etc you got in project how to know which one made in which color space? A little confused
Generally pngs and jpegs are Utility sRGB Texture, and HDRI's are Utility Linear sRGB. In the end though, if you don't know at all what colorspace it's in, you'll just have to pick what looks best or ask someone who made the file and knows. There isn't a definite way, although some software like Nuke or maybe even After Effects can make a guess when you import the image and you can just use that info for your IDT
@@marioCazares well i guested exactly that way, thanks for video and explanation! )
Thx! :)
Diffuse map still looks washed out in render after setting everything as stated. Solution?
Great stuff, thanks for sharing. Ever notice any weirdness with the color picker when using this workflow? I do.
Yeah it definitely does have weird behavior I can confirm that
Is it possible to make two color space tab for the texture node? Maybe that would make those clusters of color space types more easier to access?
There probably is a way but I have no idea how to do it so if anyone finds a way that would be awesome
I'm having trouble rendering everything out of blender. Seems like the render view is not listening to the color management and the preview. Any way to fix this? Thank you, awesome videos! Cheers!
Hey sorry for late response I didn't see this comment. I've had to deal with the same problem and I haven't found a fix yet, so I just look at my renders through Nuke instead. If I ever come across a fix I'll come back on here and let you know though
@@marioCazares hey Mario! Silly me, I had something not visible in the scene view but visible to the rendering. Can't tell you how many times I've shot myself in the foot! I'm hoping to share my Aces workflow in a video soon on my channel. Would love to compare notes with you after it goes up! Cheers man!
Oh I'm glad you figured it out! I thought you were having a different problem where viewport colors don't match rendering from viewport colors. Also that's cool look forward to it!
hello, it worked for me. pls could u clarify the part u highlighted in 10:30, about linear image?. I await ur swift response. many thanks
For sure it just means you can have linear images in ACES, sRGB, or any other colorspace. That being said, most linear images (like hdris) are created in sRGB colorspace so it's a pretty safe choice for most non ACES linear images.
There's a lot more helpful information in this video which explains it all: ruclips.net/video/Hlj5ep-85ys/видео.html
Hope this helps a little
well...if you know what you will use 90% of the time you could edit the .ocio file to have only the color profiles you use
Do you have any way of adding False Color back into the pipe? I've tried adding it back into the config and putting the false color spi3d in the luts folder which adds it into the menus but it doesn't affect the colors of the viewport?
I'll try and check that out and see how to get that to work! I'll respond again if I find anything
@@marioCazares brilliant! Thanks Mario!
Hey sorry for the days delay but I was on crunch time for a project. I tried for about an hour or so but I just wasn't able to get False Color to work. I'm not well versed in code or anything so I kind of got stuck and couldn't find a solution. Sorry about that. Maybe someone else here will know how to do this and help you out. If I ever run across the solution though I'll remember to send it your way if you haven't found it by then
Great! My question to you: Is there a way to import and work with AdobeRGB picture, too? Reason: If rich photo camera data have always at first to be converted into the small limited sRGB color space (in order to be displayed correctly) then a lot of quality is lost right at the beginning. And I also don't know any workflow, to get a linear picture from camera raw. I really wonder, why nobody addresses this topic.
ACES does have AdobeRGB under utility colorspaces! It's called Utility - Linear - AdobeRGB. If you mean however to use AdobeRGB INSTEAD of ACES then I'm not sure how to do that. This just converts AdobeRGB into ACES. If you are looking to go from camera raw images to linear here is how I go about it.
You'll need dcraw.exe (dcraw.en.softonic.com)
And here is the user manual (dyn.manpages.debian.org/unstable/dcraw/)
In Windows (I only know windows) open command prompt, then drag and drop your dcraw.exe onto it. Hit space bar and type the commands you need using the user manual (One space between each command). Hit space bar again and drag and drop your raw image. Here is an example and what I use personally:
dcraw.exe -v -w -o 6 -4 -T "imagefilepath"
Then just hit enter and it will spit out a Tiff or whatever format you choose in the same place as your raw image. My commands spit out a 16-bit Tiff in ACES format but you can easily choose any of the other 6 listed in the manual. If you want regular non ACES linear, choose sRGB D65 (default). This is regular Linear and I’ve tested it as well so I can assure you on that one. This is a lot of steps but it’s the only reliable way I’ve found after countless hours searching and trying software.
Paid method is to buy Affinity Photo ($25) and follow this: forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/51063-going-from-hdr-dng-from-lightroom-to-exr-in-affinity-photo/
@@marioCazares Thanks a lot!! that sounds really promising, I will check out.
Yes I mean working in ACES and using a AdobeRGB picture. Until now I got always stuck with a Gamma-corrected AdobeRGB that isn’t „Adobe-linear“.
So if i do my render with filmic in Blender and i import as aces cg in compositing software like Natron, my open Exr does'nt work corectly, until i use utility linear rgbs ? What output i must use if i want to export open exr with aces cg in Blender ?
If you have Filmic then that means you're not actually using ACES, you're still using Blender default sRGB. You'll have to manually add ACES to Blender (here is a video for that: ruclips.net/video/B7FWNNDXBl0/видео.html ) That is why Utility Linear sRGB is working, because that's what default Blender uses.
@@marioCazares can i convert a filmic open EXR output, to an ACES workflow in Natron for exemple, i do some test with open color to Blender and Natron, but to be honest it's more convenient to use in NATRON, especialy for the color grading and the rec 2020 conversion, so i know the process to install it in both program, i just wan't to keep a regular blender filmic workflow, and do the advance ACES setup in a compositing software like natron or Nuke or Fusion and eventualy do that with Da Vinci Resolve when i buy a Black Magic Camera with the licence...
@@marioCazares by the way, on blender you have a LINEAR/ACES stuff, but it seems to work only with the compositor and the sequencer; not for the rendering of course.
can you set linear sRGB to be default in blender so you don't have to do it each time?
I think in the config.ocio you can edit defaults but I currently can't check
can you please please do tutorial for how to work flow with blender and davinci while footage shooted in green screen, tutorial for adding VFX in that i guess it will help others, well thankyou, i hope you will think about this.
Sorry for the late reply. These two tutorials should get you exactly what you need if you still need it.
Resolve to Blender: ruclips.net/video/LssHxDCM7H4/видео.html
Blender Greenscreen: ruclips.net/video/RxD6H3ri8RI/видео.html
Did you check if Rolle Matte is actually the same as Utility Texture sRGB? I did a test and I get different linear values and color manged RGB values. And its not an error since I turned of denoiser just to be safe. Not sure this is a big deal but there is a difference in those IDTs. Even if most monitors won't be able to display those differences we should be mindful of this. Your video got a lot of views so it's important to deliver correct information. BTW: The zooming out thing is still bogging me everytime. But ACES is really fun to work with
If you look at the config.ocio you can see that role_matte_paint is exactly Utility - sRGB - Texture. Here is also the colorspace info copied directly from the config
- !
name: role_matte_paint
family: Utility/Aliases
equalitygroup: sRGB - Texture
bitdepth: 32f
description: |
The sRGB - Texture color space
isdata: false
allocation: uniform
allocationvars: [0, 1]
from_reference: ! {src: ACES - ACES2065-1, dst: Utility - sRGB - Texture}
@@marioCazares I wonder why I get different values from both IDTs. Can you check in a basic setup on your end if its the same?
4:50 Any other way to facilitate this? I tried to modify the ocio file to remove the others colorspace but couldn't save it after. Can we change default texture colorspace to Utility sRGB or Raw? I couldn't find if this is possible. It's annoying as I know I will probably never use 90% of the colorspaces (ARRI, Sony, Canon, etc...). I hope someone will figure out this.
You can definitely modify and save the ocio but you need to make sure to save it to the desktop or any place where permissions are not locked. Usually the blender color management folder has locked permissions. You then can copy paste that new ocio to replace the old one. I've actually done this a couple times and got it to work
@@marioCazares oh you're right, it worked ! thank you !
@@cmendes1 oh shit! That's awesome, would you mind sharing your OCIO file?
Is blender planning to integrate aces? Heard of it but not too familiar with aces.
Not really sure but it's pretty easy to add to Blender already. The only thing I'd wish for was a scrollable menu for the colorspace selection
@@marioCazares surely that can just be sorted out if the developer will have some time. Maybe a better search functionality using numbers might do the job or better filtering functionality under the specific node.
can we just delete any other colorspace that we dont need ?
Yup in the config.ocio file you can just delete the colorspaces you don't want
@@marioCazares why dont you delete the one you dont use ?
I work on projects for other people so sometimes I need the other colorspaces
@@marioCazares Hey mario, i have an updated Question.
Can we combine Blender's Filmic config with ACES' config so i have both at the same time in one config
How do I move the camera around in blender?
Loool middle mouse button if you really don't know boiii
God i hate it when ppl click on their workspace constantly like some nervous hamster...
It's because I am a nervous hamster
Audio is distorted is very painful to listen. But thanks for the informations
Sorry about that! Distortion is always welcome in my audio
I am gonna make the .ocio a bit shorter without the ARRI stuff and cameras that you really dont use. Ofcourse video editing but lets be real, you wont use blender for that
aces is pure shit. a simple image looks very pale when you import it in the scene as utility - srgb - texture or role_matte_paint
Crashes Blender. Cheers.