My friend used to fly these in the Luftwaffe. German but had a sense of humour, as his nickname of the side of his jet was ‘Snoopy’. He later became an instructor on them at Miramar and finished his career flying Tornado’s for 10 years. I love his stories…
21:32 I'm always amused when landing at any airport and the entire ramp is populated with 247s and DC-6s, always makes me crack up. Sim Skunkworks really have outdone themselves with their 104 lineup! (even if there are only marginal differences) Really glad to see an aircraft often forgotten get the attention it deserves. It was a proud moment when I was finally able to tame the TF-104 and start flying some circuits up around Cold Lake Alberta, eventually flying from CFB Comox on Vancouver Island all the way to Gander Intl over six legs. definitely a milestone on my MSFS journey.
Haha, it always frustrates me a little bit I have to say Wyatt. The B247 isn't so bad, but for a while every apron I visited was filled with Bucker Jungmann biplanes and they didn't even sit flush with the ground. It looked very unsightly and rather ridiculous - I have no idea why Asobo won't let us choose which aircraft display as AI. In the end I had to uninstall the addon for this reason alone. Sounds like you had rather a fun trip in the TF-104! I'd love to get a little more time in the aircraft myself (I did find a lovely RCAF TF-104 livery online and do have a video featuring that coming to the channel at some point), SSW did indeed create a lovely addon overall! Cheers and all the best : )
Cheers Mark! I have used the effect in other videos, but tend not to use in reviews (for the sake of clarity etc). As this was more of a general flight (as opposed to a full review) I figured why not! The effect isn't to everyone's taste, but most seem to like it and I feel it ramps up the immersion a little more : ) Thanks for the feedback and all the best!
Thanks very much Terry, glad you enjoyed it! A short but sweet outing in the F-104; definitely an awesome machine and indeed a nice rendition of it from SSW. All the best! : )
Yes, the cockpit is done very nicely overall; funnily enough, I thought the same about the throttle when watching the video back haha. All the best! : )
With the TF104 I genuinely struggle to get the thing off the ground in one piece. I also struggled with the rather hacked together external app to set up tanks and fuel. This looks like a much nicer implementation.
Haha, the F-104 is indeed a bit of a tricky beast to get airborne. I find the ground handling a little bit funky - it's very easily to get the aircraft into a left-right oscillation around the nosewheel, especially on landing (maybe that's somewhat true to life though, with the very narrow undercarriage). The kneeboard is definitely a far better setup, quicker and less fiddly. It's a shame that the radar app still needs to be started externally though. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations On the subject of ground handling, have you had to do anything in particular to get the beast to actually taxi? My controls are set up fine as they work in other default and 3rd party models, this one however can only be steered through differential braking... which is less than effective given the narrow track main gear. I've already had a reply from SSW which was less than helpful: "unable to reproduce".
My favorite aircraft although dumbed down for MSFS. There was a version iirc for FSX that you had to fly by the numbers. Just like the real 104 the POH procedure for a stall was ejection. If you exceeded a certain aoa on takeoff the fuse blocked the tail resulting in a good chance of loss of control. Landing with less than 87% close to the ground was deadly. The SSW 104 is some what challenging and a blast.
Hi JimJam, Oh right, I wasn’t aware such an aircraft existed in FSX, must’ve been great! The SSW version isn’t quite up there but as you say, it provides a nice challenge and is tricky enough to fly, that the aircraft often still feels like it wants to bite you. The F104 is an awesome machine and I think Sim Skunk Works have done it justice for the most part (a few bugs seems to have crept in due to updates, I hope the team pick up the pace in fixing them). I’m glad you’re enjoying the Starfighter! All the best : )
Thanks for a very informative video. I have just bought the two F-104 aircraft from Just Flight. didnt realize the single seater is clearly the better deal but Im happy to have both. Nice flying btw. Thanks again.
Ah great, happy to hear you're enjoying it sir Mr S! The F-104 certainly takes a bit of getting used to, but it's a nice challenge to get the landing somewhat figured out - I'm glad the video was of help in doing so! Cheers and all the best : )
Thanks very much Casper! Haha, I would actually like to know the answer to that myself! I tried searching around online, but couldn't find anything about them. I think they might be secondary inlets, to provide more air to the engine at low airspeeds etc (or something of that nature), that's just a guess though. . . Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. Cheers and all the best! : )
Cheers FN, I'm glad you think so! Sim Skunk Works have certainly done a very nice job with the F-104 (although a few bugs have crept in post-release) and MSFS seems to be going from strength to strength at this point : ) All the best!
Thanks very much James, my pleasure! Alas, having been very busy of late, the RV14 rather fell by the wayside. I would still like to take a look at it at some point - it looks like another high quality addon from SWS! I'll probably take a flight in the aircraft at some point, not sure when that might be though I'm afraid. Apologies on that one. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations No bother all. 1 pair of hands and all that. Really enjoying the most comprehensive reviews on youtube all the same. Much appreciated!
Haha indeed! and that pair of hands is being taken up with dirty diapers and milk bottles currently XD Well thanks very much James, that’s very kind of you to say and very much appreciated! I shall be trying my best to keep things ticking along ; ) All the best!
Thanks very much PF, very kind of you to say! I try my best to give an honest and objective look at any product I review. It's great to hear that you feel I am generally hitting the mark : ) All the best!
Hi ThePlum, Thanks for the info! I was aware that “Widowmaker” was really only a German designation; you’ll have to forgive me using a little bit of “artistic licence”, as it makes for a catchier thumbnail / title ; ) Cheers and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations no problem about the "artistic license"! I tell you this also: a second nick name in italy for the F-104 was "tax payer's lament", because the iconic sound and the costs to keep it flyable.
Haha, I like that name even more! I guess that wonderful F-104 howl, is really just the sound of tax dollars being burnt out the back end of a jet pipe XD Thanks again for sharing!
Love the starfighter! Always remember watching the Viking’s fly these and one of them breaking the sound barrier at an Airshow back in the 90s (think it was Fairford)! Oooops!
Yeah, the Starfighter is an absolute classic and one of my all time favorites! Haha, well I'm sure he would have gotten a bit of a telling off after that one, but that must have been pretty epic to see XD Thanks for sharing Ian, all the best! : )
2 questions: - will the TF104 be updated with the insim kneeboard table ? - and is there diferences in fonctionnalities between the marketplace and third party reseeler versions, like it was the case on the TF104 (for the external apps)?
Hi Adr1, apologies for the slow reply. It's great to hear that the functionality of the TF-104 has now been updated. I knew it would only be a matter of time, but I wasn't expecting it to be so quick! I didn't realise that the Marketplace version had some restrictions vs the 3rd party version, but I can see why SSW would have had to do that. Unfortunately I would expect all of the same restrictions would apply with the F-104 (though that is only speculation on my part). Cheers and all the best! : )
I echo your thoughts 100%. It would be nice if SSW did something for TF-104 owners. At the very least bring the improvements across to the two-seater. It looks like an excellent product though (the TF-104 is easily my favourite fast jet in MSFS).
I expect / believe that the improvements will be brought across to the TF-104 Roland (the G-91 has a kneeboard as well now). It’s not a massive deal at the end of the day, but it hardly feels like a big “thank you”; supporting SSW in their earlier efforts and yet paying £10 more for an almost identical product - that everyone else can now essentially come along and pick up cheaper. I think I know why SSW weren’t really able to offer a discount though, but still. . . The TF-104 will be awesome if / when MSFS gets shared cockpit support. Until then though, the F-104 would probably have been all I really needed; most MSFS devs seem to be very adept at ordering their product releases in reverse order of people’s preferences though (I guess you can’t blame them on that one ; ) As you say, either way it’s still an excellent offering; the Hawk is still my number 1 I think - does that count as “fast”? : P Cheers Roland! Hope you’re keeping well : )
I’m not sure, Thunder - I doubt it. I would imagine, given the addon’s level of fidelity, that SSW simply modelled the aircraft based on more freely available data. All the best!
👍👍 Another great video ItBS! Gotta admit the svelte sexy Starfighter is one of my all-time favorite go-fast jets. When I was young I remember it looked so unbelievably futuristic! [Yep, I believe Christopher Columbus was just a young cabin boy at that time. Haha!] Anyway, this Widowmaker looks awesome ...but... the engine sounds really need work. It truly does not sound anything like the early version General Electric J-79 engine, with its trademark moaning/wailing cacophony that varied in pitch from low to mid-range throttle settings. Did I mention LOUD?! As always, Cheers from Thailand... and... stay well and keep 'em coming young fella! 😁
Thanks very much once again Jimbo! Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, the Starfighter is one of my all time favorites as well. Sadly I'm far too youthful to have ever seen one flying though ; ) The sounds of the addon are a bit of a shame. Not awful by any means, but a bit of a missed opportunity. I had hypothesised during my review of the TF-104, that SSW would probably update the sounds at a later date (as the did with the G-91), but sadly such an update is yet to be forthcoming. The sounds are actually quite loud by default to be fair, but I toned things down, so as not to deafen everyone haha. Thanks very much as always! I hope you're keeping well also. All the best : )
My pleasure Cloudchaser, glad you enjoyed it! The voice effects are added in during editing. I use a program called Audacity and make a number of adjustments that way. Thanks very much for the subscription, welcome aboard : ) Cheers and all the best!
Thanks very much Artful! Yes, the sounds were actually something I had meant to make mention of during the outro, but unfortunately it slipped my mind. I had hoped when reviewing the TF-104, that we would one day see improved sounds for the aircraft (as we did with the G-91), but that never materialised. The sounds of the aircraft aren't bad, but they could certainly be much improved! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Apparently some sounds for I think both versions were improved this week according to the patch notes will see if your or someone else notices.
Ah ok, cool. I don’t have time to take a look for myself at the moment unfortunately, but that’ll be interesting to see what SSW have done then. Thanks for the info! All the best : )
Cheers for the nice flight! Kinda wish I didn't buy the two seater version and just waited for the single seater instead. As you say not really much difference but the flying pencil looks a bit cooler with just the one seat I think. Don't really wanna buy the separate model though even if it's a tenner cheaper. Oh well, the two seater is still a nice bird so can't complain too much I suppose!
Yeah, I felt a tiny bit aggrieved, given that I could have gotten a better product for less money. The TF-104 does make for some cool rear seat shots in vids though, so I shall console myself with that XD It is a great addon either way, although my afterburner seems to have gone all wonky above 10,000ft of late - I assume we have SU9 to thank for that. . .
Ah well that's great! It's annoying that Simmarket generally seems to get an "exclusive" initially though. They aren't my preferred platform (I'd rather go through Just Flight); a review 1 day old is already "old news" though haha : /
Thanks very much GC, really glad you enjoyed it! No, all default mesh in this video. The only addon I’m using here, which may make a slight visual difference is the Bijan 4 Season Pack : ) I hope that helps. All the best!
Help. About 3 weeks ago my F-104 started smoking. I thought it was cool...for about 2 seconds but it never stops. Just a cloud of smoke every time the aircraft is stopped. Any reply would be seriously appreciated. I'd just block the effect file if I knew where the damn thing is.
Hi Mark, Are you still having the same issue? I had another viewer reach out with the same problem, but he said that simply restarting the sim fixed everything up for him. I did load up the F-104 to try and recreate the problem, but I didn't have any such issue myself, so it's a bit hard to suggest any fixes etc I'm afraid. Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. I do hope you manage to get things sorted. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I wouldn't exactly call it a fix but reloading the plane from a fresh download worked. However the performance has changed. Before I had no problem going supersonic in level flight now the best move seems to be climbing to at least FL250, achieve at least 0.9 mach and nose over to -20 degrees. She'll go supersonic at just a touch less than FL200, then just wait until about 1.05 mach, slowly let the nose come up and do not get to 0 degrees until 1.1 mach. After she gets to 1.1 mach things start happening fairly quickly but I'm supersonic and can pursue whatever profile I want to test. Hey man, thanks! I should have come back and reported all this a couple days ago but, you know; work gets in the way of the important stuff sometimes :) Thanks for your interest, your channel and your support.
Hi Fred, You aren't the only one to mention this of late, so I presume a more recent sim update must have broken something on the F-104. That being said, I haven't experienced any such issues myself, so I'm afraid I have no idea what the problem could be. Are you running the Sim Update 10 beta by any chance? Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. All the best!
As thin as the wings of the 104 are they actually are plumbed for fuel, one tank on each wingtip and an additional tank under each wing (not shown in the video). Don' think the A model could mount the under-wing tanks but the rest did.
@@FallenPhoenix86 i see ... must be like fuel injection lines on a car ... (diameter) ... do you know how mutch range that is if fully fueled with all these tanks ?
Haha, they are indeed fuel tanks SP. I don't know exactly how the F-104 was plumbed up, but it seems Lockheed managed it one way or another. I believe the range with all 4 external tanks fitted was around the 1,500nm mark. Cheers and all the best! : )
Just bought the TF-104G though the marketplace (on sale!) ten-minutes ago based on your reviews. Not sure about this version. I'll wait for a sale. I'm cheap. And yes I subscribed.
Haha, a very nice pickup at sale prices for sure! Unless you're a massive 104 fan, if you own one version, there's probably no desperate need to pick up the other - both addons offer a very similar experience. I do hope you're enjoying it! Thanks very much for subscribing, really glad you're enjoying the content! Welcome aboard : ) Happy flying!
I agree, i have both and i can say that theres not much difference, but im a hudge F104 fan so i enjoy both. Cockpits are essentialy the same but single seater has autopilot and slightly more internal fuel
Haha, well likewise Ramy; I’m a big fan of the F-104, so don’t mind owning both. The autopilot is nice to have on the F variant (didn’t realise it had more fuel, but that makes sense with the extra room / reduced weight) and I like the TF variant because you can get some great shots from the rear-cockpit (+ hopefully one day we’ll get shared cockpit functionality in the sim). All the best! : )
Thanks very much Phill! Haha, definitely (sadly) haven’t got any time in an F-104. Now that I think about it though, the jet might be one of my single most-featured aircraft on the channel - so I guess I’ve had some good practice in it at this point haha ; ) I’m glad you enjoyed the flight! Cheers as always : )
I really don't understand why this is the only plane I have purchased that I have trouble with. The throttle kills itself sometimes and the plane tries to fall out of the sky with the rate of recovery around 70%of the time. Top speed is also unachievable in my experiences
Hi ProStreet, Unfortunately a previous sim update seems to have broken a few things on the F-104 (and the devs don't seem to be very quick to fix things up). I haven't had any throttle issues that I recall, but the afterburner seems to cut out at 10,000ft, which is probably why you aren't reaching max speed etc. The aircraft is perhaps falling out of the sky, because of the throttle issue you're having; with the flaps extended, air is actually taken from the engine and "blown" over the wings to increase lift. If the engine rpm drops below about 84%, this can cause a wing to lose lift and as a result, cause a violent wing drop. Does that sound like what you're experiencing? Unfortunately we are waiting on Sim Skunk Works to fix up the F-104, but everything seems to have gone very quiet on their end. . . I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thank u so much for the response and clarity. That sounds like it quite possibly could be a good part of the problem. My throttle issue seems to mostly result in losing the engines all together. I can sometimes do a quick restart but unfortunately end up losing the plane the other times. I love so much about the plane that it sucks that it has these issues. I hope something is done soon. Once again... Thank u so much for the info and response 💯 💪
If you’re running the F-104, it should just be a case of selecting the tip tanks via the tablet (as loosely outlined in the video). If you’re running the TF-104, you’ll need to find the “LadySetup.exe” and install the tip tanks from there - you can find the program in your TF-104 folder (located inside your sim community folder). I hope that helps? All the best! : )
Hi YK, Apologies for the slow reply. Mach 1 is no problem. Mach 2 I haven't been able to test, as the aircraft currently has an issue with the afterburner above 10,000ft. I'm not sure what is causing it, as the issue wasn't there previously - I suspect something may have been broken with SU9. Sorry I can't be of more help on that one currently. All the best! : )
Hi Josh, That's just me editing the audio during video processing, using a series of adjustments / effects (I use a program called Audacity). So far as I am aware, there is now way to do it "on the fly". All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for the reply, it's really cool that you put that much effort into your videos, they are really good, and I love all the little details you add in them, they are way better than most other youtubers :)
Thanks for the feedback BFFP! The effect has gone through a number of iterations, but I think I've found a fairly decent balance now between it sounding good / authentic, but also pleasant enough to listen to over the duration of a video. I'm glad you felt it worked. Cheers and all the best! : )
Hi Gary, If memory serves me correctly, you need to click somewhere down near where the pilot's left foot would be. I think you can see me hit the clickspot, when I get rid of the kneeboard during the video. Just bear in mind, the kneeboard is currently only available on the FRF-104 and not the TF-104 : ) I hope that helps. All the best!
First to comment :-). Hope you are well :-). Just watching the vid now :-) Just got a new VR headset and am trying, with little knowledge, to research and get it working with MSFS, DCS etc - so much to learn about it. Not just plug and play unfortunately lol
Haha, congrats James! I'm afraid there are no prizes given out for first place, but you can have some Brownie points : P How's the VR setup coming along? Having a little bit of trouble by the sounds of it? Feel free to reach out on Discord if you need some help. I've had a few VR headsets over the years, so I have some idea of what I am doing haha. Which headset do you have? It will be well worth the perseverance; DCS in VR is really something else! : D
Hi Julian, Apologies for the slow reply, I've only just had a chance to test the aircraft. Are you still having the same issue - everything seemed to be working normally for me? All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations well I haven't flown it really as it all seems wrong when you're rolling the wrong way.. each time I've tried it. The ailerons move correctly in accordance with the stick, only it rolls the opposite way...
What a looker! thanks for another great showcase.. but as always, feels a little sad when a jet like this lacks such a major aspect of its use, as combat. But in the end, im just glad to see a high quality aircraft to come out. But man oh man, it would be a great addition to DCS
FYI there is a F-104G mod available for DCS. Not as good as having an official module for it, but it's the next best thing until someone decides to make one. And with the number of currently in-dev Cold War aircraft, I'm sure someone will tackle the Starfighter at some point.
Cheers Thomas! Yeah, the F-104 is a true classic! Likewise, it is certainly an aircraft I hope we will one day see in DCS, although as Arthur points out, a freeware version of the aircraft does already exist in the sim; the external model is rather pretty, the virtual cockpit is a little rough around the edges though. Enjoying this version of the F-104 for the time being at any rate. Cheers and all the best! : )
Another great video and flight 👍🏻I hope MSFS fighter add-ons get to the level of DCS at some point. Things like the afterburner animations of both the burner and nozzle movements tend to leave a lot to be desired in pretty much all add-ons at the moment; it would be interesting to know if this is a limitation of the SDK and if this will improve over time. It is slightly annoying as I find I want to port all my DCS modules in to the MSFS environment.
Thanks very much sibzy, glad you enjoyed it! I know exactly what you mean - better yet, import the MSFS world into DCS haha. DCS has the best flight modelling of an sim I’ve tried (for the most part) and most of the modules are absolute masterpieces. I often find myself wishing I could take the Viggen around the Mach Loop, or take in the sights of MSFS in the Huey etc. I would say that the Just Flight Hawk is about on a par with most DCS modules, albeit the flight model still has a few deficiencies owning to MSFS; but yes, it would be nice to have a more rounded experience with these sorts of aircraft in the sim. Cheers! : )
Given all of the F-104's nicknames, it's a wonder anyone ever set foot in one haha! Probably better off flying something nicknamed "the happy butterfly" or "the mellow swan" XD The F-104 is an awesome machine though. There is a very nice RCAF livery kicking around on Flightsim.to, that I took on an outing the other day actually. All the best! : )
I can’t say I’ve experienced that issue myself, Nathan. To be fair, I haven’t had the chance to fly the F-104 in some time though and things can tend to get broken with sim updates etc. Sim Skunk Works seem to have been rather quiet of late, which is a real shame, as there are a few bugs that need fixing up on the aircraft at this point. . . I hope you manage to get things sorted. All the best!
Hi TFG, Yeah without a doubt! A Starfighter would be on my list of Top 5 addons I’d like to see in DCS. There is a freeware one already available (just in case you weren’t aware); the external modelling is nice, the cockpit is a little rough around the edges though. Fingers crossed, one day perhaps. . . Cheers and all the best! : )
Lovely video! I am concerned by the "Bobbing" when you bank? This "BOBBING" I have seen in high speed turns, actually the MB339...not a good sim!(YUK) But with a tiny wing load, in this jet, I would expect a low effect on aileron and a "mushing" (soft turn) rather than a hysterical "Bobbing" that I see in your video. Its "Hysterical" because I can see this on my monitor! If I was in the cockpit i would have my balls jolted and get a really stiff neck! ! The KING of low level was the TONKA Tornado for non RAF Types or perhaps the HARRIER GR3...Ohhh Harrier jockeys... a smoooooth ride...You would hear! I never expect to see this in MSFS...No one has a clue? ....unless someone knows the RAF SIm a t Leuchars and can simulate fast jet low level.....DREAM ON!!!!
Thanks David! Haha, well that could just be my flying. . . : P But yeah, the bobbing seems to be a prolific problem in MSFS. I'm no expert in flight modelling, but I gather at least some of the aerodynamics issues are caused by the sim not taking into account disrupted airflow over the tail surfaces (they behave 100% efficiently, hence the over-sensitivity). I suppose that may (hopefully) change as the sim moves more towards CFD (our first example arriving with SU9). MSFS is no fast jet sim though and these sorts of addons are really just a bit of fun in my eyes (The Hawk is the only fast jet that offers an elevated experience I would say). DCS is still the best place to be if one is looking for a decent flight model (and addon). That sim at Leuchars sounds like fun though! I guess they aren't going to let me have a "play" though : / haha. All the best!
I'm not sure I'm afraid Ricardo. I'd imagine Sim Skunk Works is probably holding off, until the sims WASM coding issues have been sorted on the Xbox (as indeed many other devs are). All the best!
this guy funny he thinks his a real pilot or his in real cockpit fool just a flight game some white people kinda funny way they talk or act but this game looks good that aircraft dounds really amazing real good
Haha, well. . . I *am* a real pilot Arsen. I am all too aware that this is a sim and not real life; I like to try and keep things realistic because firstly I enjoy doing so and secondly that is what most people enjoy about the channel. I have absolutely no idea what any of this has to do with being white. . . All the best
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My friend used to fly these in the Luftwaffe. German but had a sense of humour, as his nickname of the side of his jet was ‘Snoopy’. He later became an instructor on them at Miramar and finished his career flying Tornado’s for 10 years. I love his stories…
Wow, what a career! I’m sure he did indeed have some amazing stories haha!
All the best : )
21:32 I'm always amused when landing at any airport and the entire ramp is populated with 247s and DC-6s, always makes me crack up. Sim Skunkworks really have outdone themselves with their 104 lineup! (even if there are only marginal differences) Really glad to see an aircraft often forgotten get the attention it deserves. It was a proud moment when I was finally able to tame the TF-104 and start flying some circuits up around Cold Lake Alberta, eventually flying from CFB Comox on Vancouver Island all the way to Gander Intl over six legs. definitely a milestone on my MSFS journey.
Haha, it always frustrates me a little bit I have to say Wyatt. The B247 isn't so bad, but for a while every apron I visited was filled with Bucker Jungmann biplanes and they didn't even sit flush with the ground. It looked very unsightly and rather ridiculous - I have no idea why Asobo won't let us choose which aircraft display as AI. In the end I had to uninstall the addon for this reason alone.
Sounds like you had rather a fun trip in the TF-104! I'd love to get a little more time in the aircraft myself (I did find a lovely RCAF TF-104 livery online and do have a video featuring that coming to the channel at some point), SSW did indeed create a lovely addon overall!
Cheers and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Cheers mate, happy flying!
A scenic flight. Detailed commentary, thanks!
My pleasure Roland! Thanks for watching : )
Cheers and all the best!
Loving the voice effects. Unique, not seen/heard that on any other review. Vid really shows off the scenery in the sim.
Cheers Mark!
I have used the effect in other videos, but tend not to use in reviews (for the sake of clarity etc). As this was more of a general flight (as opposed to a full review) I figured why not!
The effect isn't to everyone's taste, but most seem to like it and I feel it ramps up the immersion a little more : )
Thanks for the feedback and all the best!
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Man that touchdown.... no words!
Haha, thank you sir! Much appreciated ; )
Excellent work once again with the editing and voiceovers. Great to see another offering of this quality in the sim.
Thanks very much Terry, glad you enjoyed it!
A short but sweet outing in the F-104; definitely an awesome machine and indeed a nice rendition of it from SSW.
All the best! : )
This cockpit is really nice. Especially the throttle. Feels like I could reach out and touch it from my computer chair.
Yes, the cockpit is done very nicely overall; funnily enough, I thought the same about the throttle when watching the video back haha.
All the best! : )
With the TF104 I genuinely struggle to get the thing off the ground in one piece. I also struggled with the rather hacked together external app to set up tanks and fuel. This looks like a much nicer implementation.
Haha, the F-104 is indeed a bit of a tricky beast to get airborne. I find the ground handling a little bit funky - it's very easily to get the aircraft into a left-right oscillation around the nosewheel, especially on landing (maybe that's somewhat true to life though, with the very narrow undercarriage).
The kneeboard is definitely a far better setup, quicker and less fiddly. It's a shame that the radar app still needs to be started externally though.
All the best! : )
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On the subject of ground handling, have you had to do anything in particular to get the beast to actually taxi?
My controls are set up fine as they work in other default and 3rd party models, this one however can only be steered through differential braking... which is less than effective given the narrow track main gear.
I've already had a reply from SSW which was less than helpful: "unable to reproduce".
My favorite aircraft although dumbed down for MSFS. There was a version iirc for FSX that you had to fly by the numbers.
Just like the real 104 the POH procedure for a stall was ejection. If you exceeded a certain aoa on takeoff the fuse blocked the tail resulting in a good chance of loss of control. Landing with less than 87% close to the ground was deadly. The SSW 104 is some what challenging and a blast.
Hi JimJam,
Oh right, I wasn’t aware such an aircraft existed in FSX, must’ve been great! The SSW version isn’t quite up there but as you say, it provides a nice challenge and is tricky enough to fly, that the aircraft often still feels like it wants to bite you.
The F104 is an awesome machine and I think Sim Skunk Works have done it justice for the most part (a few bugs seems to have crept in due to updates, I hope the team pick up the pace in fixing them).
I’m glad you’re enjoying the Starfighter! All the best : )
Thanks for a very informative video. I have just bought the two F-104 aircraft from Just Flight. didnt realize the single seater is clearly the better deal but Im happy to have both. Nice flying btw. Thanks again.
Many thanks BB! My pleasure and I’m really glad you found the video useful : )
Happy flying and all the best!
I love this plane, once I got it right. Some good tips here on the landing. Cheers!
Ah great, happy to hear you're enjoying it sir Mr S!
The F-104 certainly takes a bit of getting used to, but it's a nice challenge to get the landing somewhat figured out - I'm glad the video was of help in doing so!
Cheers and all the best : )
Amazing flying, but can anyone explain what these opening and closing holes are you see sitting in the fuselage above the wing at 12:43
Thanks very much Casper!
Haha, I would actually like to know the answer to that myself! I tried searching around online, but couldn't find anything about them. I think they might be secondary inlets, to provide more air to the engine at low airspeeds etc (or something of that nature), that's just a guess though. . .
Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. Cheers and all the best! : )
Looking really nice - sim and plane.
Cheers FN, I'm glad you think so!
Sim Skunk Works have certainly done a very nice job with the F-104 (although a few bugs have crept in post-release) and MSFS seems to be going from strength to strength at this point : )
All the best!
Thanks so much for another great review. Is there an SWS RV14 review on the way? I really hope so :)
Thanks very much James, my pleasure!
Alas, having been very busy of late, the RV14 rather fell by the wayside. I would still like to take a look at it at some point - it looks like another high quality addon from SWS!
I'll probably take a flight in the aircraft at some point, not sure when that might be though I'm afraid.
Apologies on that one. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations No bother all. 1 pair of hands and all that. Really enjoying the most comprehensive reviews on youtube all the same. Much appreciated!
Haha indeed! and that pair of hands is being taken up with dirty diapers and milk bottles currently XD
Well thanks very much James, that’s very kind of you to say and very much appreciated!
I shall be trying my best to keep things ticking along ; )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations No bother at all. Congrats to you both on your new arrival. Keep up the great work when you can, it's really appreciated! :)
Buying this one tonight after work
Enjoy, Mark! Happy flying and all the best : )
Definitely coming to see your videos as the authoritative ones.
Thanks very much PF, very kind of you to say!
I try my best to give an honest and objective look at any product I review. It's great to hear that you feel I am generally hitting the mark : )
All the best!
In Italy F-104 nickname was "spillone", big brooch. It was named "widow maker" in germany.
Hi ThePlum,
Thanks for the info! I was aware that “Widowmaker” was really only a German designation; you’ll have to forgive me using a little bit of “artistic licence”, as it makes for a catchier thumbnail / title ; )
Cheers and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations no problem about the "artistic license"! I tell you this also: a second nick name in italy for the F-104 was "tax payer's lament", because the iconic sound and the costs to keep it flyable.
Haha, I like that name even more! I guess that wonderful F-104 howl, is really just the sound of tax dollars being burnt out the back end of a jet pipe XD
Thanks again for sharing!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations you're welcome! Great channel!
Thanks very much! Glad you’re enjoying the content : )
Love the starfighter! Always remember watching the Viking’s fly these and one of them breaking the sound barrier at an Airshow back in the 90s (think it was Fairford)! Oooops!
Yeah, the Starfighter is an absolute classic and one of my all time favorites!
Haha, well I'm sure he would have gotten a bit of a telling off after that one, but that must have been pretty epic to see XD
Thanks for sharing Ian, all the best! : )
Love the internal comms sound! :D
Cheers Darojax, glad you liked it! I figure it adds a little bit more immersion : )
All the best!
Fantastic flight in a beautiful zipper. Well done as always
Thanks very much FAA! Glad you enjoyed it : )
Cheers and all the best!
Widowmaker or not that was one good-looking plane.
I couldn’t agree more, sir!
All the best : )
Cool video. I own the widow maker car...first generation Dodge Viper, dubbed...the widow maker.
Haha, nice EW! What a classic!
Well, I guess the Viper didn't get that nickname for no reason - so drive safe! ; )
All the best : )
2 questions:
- will the TF104 be updated with the insim kneeboard table ?
- and is there diferences in fonctionnalities between the marketplace and third party reseeler versions, like it was the case on the TF104 (for the external apps)?
So there was the update (21/04/22) for the TF104G with the addition of the insim kneeboard and all the fetures of the FRF-104 G !
Really Noyce ☺
Hi Adr1, apologies for the slow reply.
It's great to hear that the functionality of the TF-104 has now been updated. I knew it would only be a matter of time, but I wasn't expecting it to be so quick!
I didn't realise that the Marketplace version had some restrictions vs the 3rd party version, but I can see why SSW would have had to do that. Unfortunately I would expect all of the same restrictions would apply with the F-104 (though that is only speculation on my part).
Cheers and all the best! : )
I echo your thoughts 100%. It would be nice if SSW did something for TF-104 owners. At the very least bring the improvements across to the two-seater.
It looks like an excellent product though (the TF-104 is easily my favourite fast jet in MSFS).
I expect / believe that the improvements will be brought across to the TF-104 Roland (the G-91 has a kneeboard as well now).
It’s not a massive deal at the end of the day, but it hardly feels like a big “thank you”; supporting SSW in their earlier efforts and yet paying £10 more for an almost identical product - that everyone else can now essentially come along and pick up cheaper. I think I know why SSW weren’t really able to offer a discount though, but still. . .
The TF-104 will be awesome if / when MSFS gets shared cockpit support. Until then though, the F-104 would probably have been all I really needed; most MSFS devs seem to be very adept at ordering their product releases in reverse order of people’s preferences though (I guess you can’t blame them on that one ; )
As you say, either way it’s still an excellent offering; the Hawk is still my number 1 I think - does that count as “fast”? : P
Cheers Roland! Hope you’re keeping well : )
Spectacular!👍🏼
Thanks very much James! Glad you enjoyed it : )
All the best!
Q: Did they have access with Lockheed- Martin archives to accurately model this? Or visit one at a museum in Italy.
I’m not sure, Thunder - I doubt it. I would imagine, given the addon’s level of fidelity, that SSW simply modelled the aircraft based on more freely available data.
All the best!
👍👍 Another great video ItBS! Gotta admit the svelte sexy Starfighter is one of my all-time favorite go-fast jets. When I was young I remember it looked so unbelievably futuristic! [Yep, I believe Christopher Columbus was just a young cabin boy at that time. Haha!]
Anyway, this Widowmaker looks awesome ...but... the engine sounds really need work. It truly does not sound anything like the early version General Electric J-79 engine, with its trademark moaning/wailing cacophony that varied in pitch from low to mid-range throttle settings. Did I mention LOUD?!
As always, Cheers from Thailand... and... stay well and keep 'em coming young fella! 😁
Thanks very much once again Jimbo! Glad you enjoyed it.
Yeah, the Starfighter is one of my all time favorites as well. Sadly I'm far too youthful to have ever seen one flying though ; )
The sounds of the addon are a bit of a shame. Not awful by any means, but a bit of a missed opportunity. I had hypothesised during my review of the TF-104, that SSW would probably update the sounds at a later date (as the did with the G-91), but sadly such an update is yet to be forthcoming. The sounds are actually quite loud by default to be fair, but I toned things down, so as not to deafen everyone haha.
Thanks very much as always! I hope you're keeping well also.
All the best : )
Great review, this is definitely a veryyyy good looking pay ware product! Subscribed! What do you use for that cool voice filter?
My pleasure Cloudchaser, glad you enjoyed it!
The voice effects are added in during editing. I use a program called Audacity and make a number of adjustments that way.
Thanks very much for the subscription, welcome aboard : )
Cheers and all the best!
Great review again, Still not buying this until we get a more detailed soundscape when turning at altitude seems still too quiet like the TF104 was.
Thanks very much Artful!
Yes, the sounds were actually something I had meant to make mention of during the outro, but unfortunately it slipped my mind. I had hoped when reviewing the TF-104, that we would one day see improved sounds for the aircraft (as we did with the G-91), but that never materialised. The sounds of the aircraft aren't bad, but they could certainly be much improved!
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Apparently some sounds for I think both versions were improved this week according to the patch notes will see if your or someone else notices.
Ah ok, cool. I don’t have time to take a look for myself at the moment unfortunately, but that’ll be interesting to see what SSW have done then.
Thanks for the info! All the best : )
Cheers for the nice flight! Kinda wish I didn't buy the two seater version and just waited for the single seater instead. As you say not really much difference but the flying pencil looks a bit cooler with just the one seat I think. Don't really wanna buy the separate model though even if it's a tenner cheaper. Oh well, the two seater is still a nice bird so can't complain too much I suppose!
Oh and it is available on Just Flight and maybe other stores since you released this vid.
Yeah, I felt a tiny bit aggrieved, given that I could have gotten a better product for less money. The TF-104 does make for some cool rear seat shots in vids though, so I shall console myself with that XD
It is a great addon either way, although my afterburner seems to have gone all wonky above 10,000ft of late - I assume we have SU9 to thank for that. . .
Ah well that's great! It's annoying that Simmarket generally seems to get an "exclusive" initially though. They aren't my preferred platform (I'd rather go through Just Flight); a review 1 day old is already "old news" though haha : /
It's available on Orbx now.
Ah wonderful! It’s always good to have more vendor options. Thanks for the info Spencer! All the best : )
Another fantastic video, thank you! Can I ask if you are using any mesh add on for this area please?
Thanks very much GC, really glad you enjoyed it!
No, all default mesh in this video. The only addon I’m using here, which may make a slight visual difference is the Bijan 4 Season Pack : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
Help. About 3 weeks ago my F-104 started smoking. I thought it was cool...for about 2 seconds but it never stops. Just a cloud of smoke every time the aircraft is stopped. Any reply would be seriously appreciated. I'd just block the effect file if I knew where the damn thing is.
Hi Mark,
Are you still having the same issue? I had another viewer reach out with the same problem, but he said that simply restarting the sim fixed everything up for him. I did load up the F-104 to try and recreate the problem, but I didn't have any such issue myself, so it's a bit hard to suggest any fixes etc I'm afraid.
Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. I do hope you manage to get things sorted.
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I wouldn't exactly call it a fix but reloading the plane from a fresh download worked. However the performance has changed. Before I had no problem going supersonic in level flight now the best move seems to be climbing to at least FL250, achieve at least 0.9 mach and nose over to -20 degrees. She'll go supersonic at just a touch less than FL200, then just wait until about 1.05 mach, slowly let the nose come up and do not get to 0 degrees until 1.1 mach. After she gets to 1.1 mach things start happening fairly quickly but I'm supersonic and can pursue whatever profile I want to test.
Hey man, thanks! I should have come back and reported all this a couple days ago but, you know; work gets in the way of the important stuff sometimes :) Thanks for your interest, your channel and your support.
Everytime I get in the F-104 now there's a cloud of smoke aroundit. I need to get rid of it as I have respiratory issues. Help please.
Hi Fred,
You aren't the only one to mention this of late, so I presume a more recent sim update must have broken something on the F-104. That being said, I haven't experienced any such issues myself, so I'm afraid I have no idea what the problem could be. Are you running the Sim Update 10 beta by any chance?
Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for response. I reloaded it and it works now.
Ah brilliant, you’re most welcome! I’m glad you got things sorted : )
what are these massive side pots for ? can t see how there are fuel lines through those razor thin wings ?
As thin as the wings of the 104 are they actually are plumbed for fuel, one tank on each wingtip and an additional tank under each wing (not shown in the video). Don' think the A model could mount the under-wing tanks but the rest did.
@@FallenPhoenix86 i see ... must be like fuel injection lines on a car ... (diameter) ... do you know how mutch range that is if fully fueled with all these tanks ?
Haha, they are indeed fuel tanks SP. I don't know exactly how the F-104 was plumbed up, but it seems Lockheed managed it one way or another.
I believe the range with all 4 external tanks fitted was around the 1,500nm mark.
Cheers and all the best! : )
Just bought the TF-104G though the marketplace (on sale!) ten-minutes ago based on your reviews. Not sure about this version. I'll wait for a sale. I'm cheap.
And yes I subscribed.
Haha, a very nice pickup at sale prices for sure! Unless you're a massive 104 fan, if you own one version, there's probably no desperate need to pick up the other - both addons offer a very similar experience. I do hope you're enjoying it!
Thanks very much for subscribing, really glad you're enjoying the content! Welcome aboard : )
Happy flying!
I agree, i have both and i can say that theres not much difference, but im a hudge F104 fan so i enjoy both. Cockpits are essentialy the same but single seater has autopilot and slightly more internal fuel
Haha, well likewise Ramy; I’m a big fan of the F-104, so don’t mind owning both. The autopilot is nice to have on the F variant (didn’t realise it had more fuel, but that makes sense with the extra room / reduced weight) and I like the TF variant because you can get some great shots from the rear-cockpit (+ hopefully one day we’ll get shared cockpit functionality in the sim).
All the best! : )
do you use any weather addons?
Hi Techstepman,
Not ordinarily. This was just the default Live Weather anyway : )
All the best!
Once again it seams you’ve flown this aircraft for years! I wonder if it’s stubby wings interferes with the 104s performance? Great video
Thanks very much Phill! Haha, definitely (sadly) haven’t got any time in an F-104. Now that I think about it though, the jet might be one of my single most-featured aircraft on the channel - so I guess I’ve had some good practice in it at this point haha ; )
I’m glad you enjoyed the flight! Cheers as always : )
I really don't understand why this is the only plane I have purchased that I have trouble with. The throttle kills itself sometimes and the plane tries to fall out of the sky with the rate of recovery around 70%of the time. Top speed is also unachievable in my experiences
Hi ProStreet,
Unfortunately a previous sim update seems to have broken a few things on the F-104 (and the devs don't seem to be very quick to fix things up). I haven't had any throttle issues that I recall, but the afterburner seems to cut out at 10,000ft, which is probably why you aren't reaching max speed etc. The aircraft is perhaps falling out of the sky, because of the throttle issue you're having; with the flaps extended, air is actually taken from the engine and "blown" over the wings to increase lift. If the engine rpm drops below about 84%, this can cause a wing to lose lift and as a result, cause a violent wing drop. Does that sound like what you're experiencing?
Unfortunately we are waiting on Sim Skunk Works to fix up the F-104, but everything seems to have gone very quiet on their end. . .
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thank u so much for the response and clarity. That sounds like it quite possibly could be a good part of the problem. My throttle issue seems to mostly result in losing the engines all together. I can sometimes do a quick restart but unfortunately end up losing the plane the other times. I love so much about the plane that it sucks that it has these issues. I hope something is done soon.
Once again... Thank u so much for the info and response 💯 💪
How did you get the wingtip tanks to work? I couldn't get them on mine
Hi Trevor,
Do you mean how did I install them? Or were you wondering how I have the engine feeding from them?
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations No, just visually.
If you’re running the F-104, it should just be a case of selecting the tip tanks via the tablet (as loosely outlined in the video). If you’re running the TF-104, you’ll need to find the “LadySetup.exe” and install the tip tanks from there - you can find the program in your TF-104 folder (located inside your sim community folder).
I hope that helps? All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Awesome, thank you so much! I'll try that
How this addon behaves when flying supersonic speed? Is it possible to fly supersonic and does it have top speed 2 mach as a real plane?
Hi YK,
Apologies for the slow reply. Mach 1 is no problem. Mach 2 I haven't been able to test, as the aircraft currently has an issue with the afterburner above 10,000ft. I'm not sure what is causing it, as the issue wasn't there previously - I suspect something may have been broken with SU9.
Sorry I can't be of more help on that one currently. All the best! : )
How do you get people talking on the radio in your videos, like in real life ? Is it a mod ?
Hi Josh,
That's just me editing the audio during video processing, using a series of adjustments / effects (I use a program called Audacity). So far as I am aware, there is now way to do it "on the fly".
All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for the reply, it's really cool that you put that much effort into your videos, they are really good, and I love all the little details you add in them, they are way better than most other youtubers :)
My pleasure Josh! Thank you very much for the kind words, very much appreciated. I’m glad you’re enjoying the content : )
All the best!
Radio effect on point ;)
Thanks for the feedback BFFP!
The effect has gone through a number of iterations, but I think I've found a fairly decent balance now between it sounding good / authentic, but also pleasant enough to listen to over the duration of a video. I'm glad you felt it worked.
Cheers and all the best! : )
what is the MSFS binding for drag chute?
Hi PM,
Bizarrely it's "Toggle Flight Director On / Off". No idea why the devs went with that haha, but there you go. . .
All the best! : )
How do we bring up the knee board?
Hi Gary,
If memory serves me correctly, you need to click somewhere down near where the pilot's left foot would be. I think you can see me hit the clickspot, when I get rid of the kneeboard during the video. Just bear in mind, the kneeboard is currently only available on the FRF-104 and not the TF-104 : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
First to comment :-). Hope you are well :-). Just watching the vid now :-) Just got a new VR headset and am trying, with little knowledge, to research and get it working with MSFS, DCS etc - so much to learn about it. Not just plug and play unfortunately lol
Haha, congrats James! I'm afraid there are no prizes given out for first place, but you can have some Brownie points : P
How's the VR setup coming along? Having a little bit of trouble by the sounds of it? Feel free to reach out on Discord if you need some help. I've had a few VR headsets over the years, so I have some idea of what I am doing haha. Which headset do you have?
It will be well worth the perseverance; DCS in VR is really something else! : D
I just got it, but the ailerons are reversed?
Hi Julian,
Apologies for the slow reply, I've only just had a chance to test the aircraft. Are you still having the same issue - everything seemed to be working normally for me?
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations well I haven't flown it really as it all seems wrong when you're rolling the wrong way.. each time I've tried it. The ailerons move correctly in accordance with the stick, only it rolls the opposite way...
What a looker! thanks for another great showcase.. but as always, feels a little sad when a jet like this lacks such a major aspect of its use, as combat. But in the end, im just glad to see a high quality aircraft to come out. But man oh man, it would be a great addition to DCS
FYI there is a F-104G mod available for DCS. Not as good as having an official module for it, but it's the next best thing until someone decides to make one. And with the number of currently in-dev Cold War aircraft, I'm sure someone will tackle the Starfighter at some point.
Cheers Thomas! Yeah, the F-104 is a true classic!
Likewise, it is certainly an aircraft I hope we will one day see in DCS, although as Arthur points out, a freeware version of the aircraft does already exist in the sim; the external model is rather pretty, the virtual cockpit is a little rough around the edges though.
Enjoying this version of the F-104 for the time being at any rate.
Cheers and all the best! : )
I suspect you're right Arthur; we'll probably see a fully-fledged version of the F-104 in DCS at some point : )
Another great video and flight 👍🏻I hope MSFS fighter add-ons get to the level of DCS at some point. Things like the afterburner animations of both the burner and nozzle movements tend to leave a lot to be desired in pretty much all add-ons at the moment; it would be interesting to know if this is a limitation of the SDK and if this will improve over time. It is slightly annoying as I find I want to port all my DCS modules in to the MSFS environment.
Thanks very much sibzy, glad you enjoyed it!
I know exactly what you mean - better yet, import the MSFS world into DCS haha. DCS has the best flight modelling of an sim I’ve tried (for the most part) and most of the modules are absolute masterpieces. I often find myself wishing I could take the Viggen around the Mach Loop, or take in the sights of MSFS in the Huey etc. I would say that the Just Flight Hawk is about on a par with most DCS modules, albeit the flight model still has a few deficiencies owning to MSFS; but yes, it would be nice to have a more rounded experience with these sorts of aircraft in the sim.
Cheers! : )
This thing was a rocket with a pilot sat on the front
Very much so CV - and that’s one of the many reasons I love it! ; )
Cheers!
ah yes dubbed the lawn dart here in canada
Given all of the F-104's nicknames, it's a wonder anyone ever set foot in one haha!
Probably better off flying something nicknamed "the happy butterfly" or "the mellow swan" XD
The F-104 is an awesome machine though. There is a very nice RCAF livery kicking around on Flightsim.to, that I took on an outing the other day actually.
All the best! : )
Does anyone else have an issue with this aircraft where they get no engine sound in the cockpit?
I can’t say I’ve experienced that issue myself, Nathan. To be fair, I haven’t had the chance to fly the F-104 in some time though and things can tend to get broken with sim updates etc. Sim Skunk Works seem to have been rather quiet of late, which is a real shame, as there are a few bugs that need fixing up on the aircraft at this point. . .
I hope you manage to get things sorted. All the best!
I yearn after the starfighter in DCS
Hi TFG,
Yeah without a doubt! A Starfighter would be on my list of Top 5 addons I’d like to see in DCS. There is a freeware one already available (just in case you weren’t aware); the external modelling is nice, the cockpit is a little rough around the edges though. Fingers crossed, one day perhaps. . .
Cheers and all the best! : )
Lovely video! I am concerned by the "Bobbing" when you bank? This "BOBBING" I have seen in high speed turns, actually the MB339...not a good sim!(YUK) But with a tiny wing load, in this jet, I would expect a low effect on aileron and a "mushing" (soft turn) rather than a hysterical "Bobbing" that I see in your video. Its "Hysterical" because I can see this on my monitor! If I was in the cockpit i would have my balls jolted and get a really stiff neck! ! The KING of low level was the TONKA Tornado for non RAF Types or perhaps the HARRIER GR3...Ohhh Harrier jockeys... a smoooooth ride...You would hear! I never expect to see this in MSFS...No one has a clue? ....unless someone knows the RAF SIm a t Leuchars and can simulate fast jet low level.....DREAM ON!!!!
Thanks David!
Haha, well that could just be my flying. . . : P
But yeah, the bobbing seems to be a prolific problem in MSFS. I'm no expert in flight modelling, but I gather at least some of the aerodynamics issues are caused by the sim not taking into account disrupted airflow over the tail surfaces (they behave 100% efficiently, hence the over-sensitivity). I suppose that may (hopefully) change as the sim moves more towards CFD (our first example arriving with SU9).
MSFS is no fast jet sim though and these sorts of addons are really just a bit of fun in my eyes (The Hawk is the only fast jet that offers an elevated experience I would say). DCS is still the best place to be if one is looking for a decent flight model (and addon).
That sim at Leuchars sounds like fun though! I guess they aren't going to let me have a "play" though : / haha.
All the best!
For when on the XBOX? 😕
Yes...when indeed? Or if...
I'm not sure I'm afraid Ricardo. I'd imagine Sim Skunk Works is probably holding off, until the sims WASM coding issues have been sorted on the Xbox (as indeed many other devs are).
All the best!
this guy funny he thinks his a real pilot or his in real cockpit fool just a flight game some white people kinda funny way they talk or act but this game looks good that aircraft dounds really amazing real good
Haha, well. . . I *am* a real pilot Arsen.
I am all too aware that this is a sim and not real life; I like to try and keep things realistic because firstly I enjoy doing so and secondly that is what most people enjoy about the channel.
I have absolutely no idea what any of this has to do with being white. . .
All the best