Also, getting a bunch of article 15s won’t get you kicked out of the army. Once met a solider who was over the army and wanted out so he tried his best to be the worse solider. Last I heard, he was on his 5th article 15 in 3 months. Never knew what happened to him but just keep that mind.
Hey Chris! I'm a 29 year old dude with a wife and 2 kids. I've been an electrician for about 9 years and have always wanted more. I'm scheduled to go take my ASVAB next Tuesday and I'm super excited. I've always wanted to go in, and now I'm going to do it. I really want 17c so I need a high test score! Thanks for all the tips and pointers.
@@garzilla4125 I absolutely make more money now, but I am absolutely miserable. Only went into my current job because it's pretty much the family trade.
We had an E-3 smoking weed in the barracks in Germany and the sergeant major came by and caught him. That dude was stupid as fuck. Busted down to E-1 45 & 45 and kicked out. So dumb!!!
Wrapping up 21 years without ever even being threatened with an Article 15. It's easy enough to avoid them, but I've seen my share of Soldiers getting threatened with or receiving one. I always told myself that if a leader tried to threaten me I'd ask for a court martial unless I knew I was in the wrong. For example, a fellow 11B was told that if he didn't start putting people in the Army he'd be recommended for an Article 15. I was doing worse than he was but I was really good about completing my USAREC Portal planning calendar. Even if I didn't make many contacts or get many appointments they were logged in, and though this was over ten years ago, everyone from the USAREC CG and CSM to the Station Commander could look at an individual Recruiter's plan and the work they logged in. If you made mission, you might get some hassle over your plan but nothing major. If you weren't the best production Recruiter, that Portal could save your career. Anyway, the young SGT would ask me if I was getting threatened with UCMJ and I'd tell him no. In fact, the CSM mentioned that I was probably the hardest worker in the battalion but just couldn't write a damned contract. In this case, as a clean Infantry E6 who had a good reputation with fairly senior leaders I'd served under in both the 101st and The Old Guard (TOG), I was ready to request an actual court martial if the 79R posse tried to throw me under the bus. In my experience, being recommended for an Article 15 and having it go up the chain is essentially a guarantee that you're receiving one. Since it's non-judicial there is minimal, if any, due process or representation, and the commander who holds the hearing will usually defer to their subordinate that recommended the action. In other words, if your squad leader doesn't like you and knows how to put things on paper, the platoon and company leadership will probably side with them. While the possible punishments are much higher, a court martial at least rests your fate in the hands of a panel of officers and NCOs as well as a judge. I think what gave me this mindset was sitting in court as a Prisoner Escort for a young Soldier who had gone AWOL and came back having tested positive for about 6 different drugs. The judge was very thorough despite the young man's admitted guilt and while he did some Brig time and a Bad Conduct Discharge he at least got a fair hearing. I've known SPCs that walk into a LTC's office for a fairly minor incident who got maxed out in punishment. Also, in some units you might find your company commander get promoted to Major and think he has the power to hand out Field Grade Article 15s. In Recruiting and TOG I had this happen, and each time the commander was reminded that while he was a MAJ je was still serving in a company level command position, so Summary and Company Grade were the limits of his power There are lots of Soldiers who screw the pooch and get slapped with an Article 15, then move on to outstanding careers. It used to be said that getting busted down a rank or two was the quickest way to make E9. I remember a high speed PSG sharing his story during a safety brief, who had gotten a DUI as a PVT and still made E7 in under 10 years. In the Army, we have a saying: "Be at the right place, at the right time, in the right uniform". I'll add "with the right attitude" to that. It's an easy job despite its occasional demands and hardships. It's not just "you", everyone has problems, so there's no excuse for slacking off or being a general shitbag. If you happen to mess up you move on. One very good thing about the Army is that you might be a zero in one unit, getting started off on the wrong foot or having leadership that targets you, only to be a hero in your next unit, where you get a fresh start and might have learned from earlier mistakes. Those of you considering, or in the process of, joining, know that military service isn't for everyone. I'm glad I enlisted when I did, and though I could have spent at least three more years in uniform, perhaps even making E8 or E9 and serving beyond 30, it was time for me to hang up the boots when I did.
I knew a guy who got an Article 15 for discharging a fire extinguisher in his dorm and another who either received one or was threatened with one for getting multiple concussions. I wish I remembered clearly, because that was crazy!
Thats NJP and it is serious. However before the poor guy gets his rectum pulled out, there needs to be BC investigation into leadership of the platoon and company. Did the soldier get his shuteye? Was soldier under medical orders (which may overide chain of command)
Had a Soldier loose his entire TA-50 after his rental car got impounded post accident. Didnt find out about until i was on Terminal Leave which was 4 months after the fact.
Super job! I not only hope that folks who are interested in the Army watch your videos, but also folks who are already in because the advice you offer is spot on!
My platoon was part of a change of command ceremony. We had to stand tall and look good for a long time. One soldier got fed up with standing, and just walked off against the Lieutenant's orders to fall in.
Got a Field grade 15 my last 3 months in. I refused to put my weapons in the arms room. Was asked by my commander why I did not put my weapons in the arms room. I told her. I would never see it till I etsed or pcsed. I had friends many times who asked permission to take their guns out to go shooting. They were never allowed. My commander got yelled at when that was revealed by my Bat commander. My roommate was a rat and told on me. I lost rank from E4 to E3 and 45 days of extra duty and loss of pay. I got my Hon discharge. I requested a open hearing for my Field grade. My Bat commander refused since I was the most popular guy in my unit and told me I would win. I still refused to store my weapon in the arms room. I was told if I reuped. They would drop the charges.
Haha... I earned myself some extra duty and confinement to the barracks for getting super trashed and being passed out on the bathroom floor. But fortunately no Article-15.
Wassup Chris I’m a private fresh out of AIT and I’m reporting to my duty station in 2 weeks the problem is the day before I graduated from AIT I lost my CAC what u think is gonna happen when I show up to my unit and don’t have one I do know my DOD ID number by heart and have my dog tags and orders
Commonly leadership has to counsel you on accountability of your ID card and then you will have to go to the DEERS office to get a new one. You will have a bit of an issue trying to get on post though. You will have to go through the visitors gate for what ever insulation you are going to and need to get a vehicle inspection and background check done to get on base and have to do that everytime until you get a new ID.
If a weapon got damaged in a combat situation then it would get sent off to be repaired if possible and the soldiers would be issued a new weapon because the unit has extra weapons that are taken with them on a deployment.
Yea, I got one, and I'll share it. I was young, dumb, stationed in Germany (then West Germany) in 1983. Me and another soldier were out on the town (Fulda) drinking and we met a couple of young German girls. I decided to be a gentleman and drive them home since the busses had stopped running by then. I got pulled over by the MP's and got a DUI, resulting in an article 15. I lost a stripe and got a $300 fine. I guess I was lucky in one way, that it was not considered nearly as serious as it is today. I knew of officers who got DUI's back then. Now, they might kick you out. Live and learn.
What about having an OF account??? I’ve heard of troops having OF account and making sure they’re incognito from recognition (not seeing face/ making sure there’s no military affiliation within the pictures) I was thinking about it since there’s no rent, why not make extra money with no rent.
I was a legal clerk. 77!to 81. We didn’t have women in combat arms. In the cavalry unit I was in. Article 15s were AWOL, Drunk and Disorderly, Assault, Drugs, DUIs. Yeah if they wanted to get rid of someone you needed justification. Multiple Article 15s did the trick. I did a few Warrant Officer Article 15s . The commanding general does officers
I knew some soldiers who ditched their gas masks & NBC protective equipment; they got hit hard, & I was told it would've been even worse, had they not been able to produce said equipment later on, during the investigation. Obviously, they though they didn't need it, & considered it an unneeded burden. WHOOPS! Bad move, sparky!
Comon one I've seen are failed drug tests, DUI and caught sleeping with someone your not supposed to be sleeping with (ie they are married or are a lower enlisted soldier).
Member of the 15 15 30 Club. 15 days extra duty, 15 days restriction to company area and 30 day loss of pay. Won't telll you the details but it could have been worse!
Through out my time I served in the Army I got an article 15 for cursing 🤬 out one of my NCO’s in Kuwait 🇰🇼 for yelling at me for something I didn’t do I was just put on 14 days on extra duty when we got to Iraq 🇮🇶. Damn I sure started off my deployment with a blast 💥🤣🤣 . I seen far worse such as soldiers getting in trouble for drugs , we even had one guy that punched his platoon Sargent in the eye 👁, he got kicked out . My second deployment to Afghanistan we had some Sargent that went AWOL he was a piece of shit , we had a PFC that went AWOL around the same time but came back and just got an Article 15 . I can keep going because I witness soldiers get into some serious trouble for a lot of different things.
@@tonybarnes6154 Oh,that explains that.Thanks for the reply,I was really curious about it.Missing a movement/deployment is REALLY serious business,no way I would've done that,I went to Iraq 4 times.Did 2 deployments back -to-back. LOL.
You can't forget the H and the Mandrix! My Captain told me I should not feel bad for getting all of those Articles 15. He told me that I paid for 2 beds in The Old Soldiers Home!Now I can always say that I supported the troops.
There is no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation” ... Quote from then-Justice Minister Pierre Trudeau, father of Canada's current Prime Minster
Some constructive criticism for you... You don't have to say the example 20 different times in 20 different ways. Every video I've seen you do, you do the intro and then repeat the topic of the video 3 to 5 different ways. Please stop doing that. It's really bad.
Funniest thing I ever saw on SDNCO was one of my guys was on extra duty cleaning CO’s and Top’s office. I walk by from the outside and do a double take, because he’s not wearing pants. So I talk to him and he admits that after cleaning he rubbed his bare ass on both desks and piss into Top’s coffee cup. I was getting out, I really didn’t care. That was hilarious. Don’t mess with the E-4 Mafia!🫣🤣
Also, getting a bunch of article 15s won’t get you kicked out of the army. Once met a solider who was over the army and wanted out so he tried his best to be the worse solider. Last I heard, he was on his 5th article 15 in 3 months. Never knew what happened to him but just keep that mind.
I had 3 of them never lost any rank or pay just extra duty
Depends on what the article 15s are for and also your rank.
Back in my day a SGT (P) got a AR-15 for not destroying Crypto tape, but logged he did. He was busted to E3.
Got my first article 15 in basic selling trap phones 😭
Oh dang. Lol
Hey Chris! I'm a 29 year old dude with a wife and 2 kids. I've been an electrician for about 9 years and have always wanted more. I'm scheduled to go take my ASVAB next Tuesday and I'm super excited. I've always wanted to go in, and now I'm going to do it. I really want 17c so I need a high test score! Thanks for all the tips and pointers.
Hey man I’m 29 I already served 10 years in but I just wanted to tell you good luck
bruh idk if you should. As much as you wanna do it youre better off being an electrician. You can just take cyber security classes at night
You are a 29 yr old electrician don't do it you will be very disappointed
If you’re just itching to join the military go reserves…can still do 17c….u have a better full time career
@@garzilla4125 I absolutely make more money now, but I am absolutely miserable. Only went into my current job because it's pretty much the family trade.
What does a base commander get for leaving behind BILLIONS of dollars in equipment at a foreign base during an evacuation/withdrawal?
Promoted
@@lelandgaunt9985 LOL.That was MAD-FUNNY !!! Thanks.
A book deal
My favorite thing about an article 15 is punishing that soldiers NCO command by making them do extra duty with their soldier.
Got an Art 15 for missing an alert... 45 days extra duty and lose of pay!! Kept my rank though...
We had an E-3 smoking weed in the barracks in Germany and the sergeant major came by and caught him. That dude was stupid as fuck. Busted down to E-1 45 & 45 and kicked out. So dumb!!!
He probably did some time in the military prison too. Smh
Wrapping up 21 years without ever even being threatened with an Article 15. It's easy enough to avoid them, but I've seen my share of Soldiers getting threatened with or receiving one. I always told myself that if a leader tried to threaten me I'd ask for a court martial unless I knew I was in the wrong. For example, a fellow 11B was told that if he didn't start putting people in the Army he'd be recommended for an Article 15. I was doing worse than he was but I was really good about completing my USAREC Portal planning calendar. Even if I didn't make many contacts or get many appointments they were logged in, and though this was over ten years ago, everyone from the USAREC CG and CSM to the Station Commander could look at an individual Recruiter's plan and the work they logged in. If you made mission, you might get some hassle over your plan but nothing major. If you weren't the best production Recruiter, that Portal could save your career. Anyway, the young SGT would ask me if I was getting threatened with UCMJ and I'd tell him no. In fact, the CSM mentioned that I was probably the hardest worker in the battalion but just couldn't write a damned contract. In this case, as a clean Infantry E6 who had a good reputation with fairly senior leaders I'd served under in both the 101st and The Old Guard (TOG), I was ready to request an actual court martial if the 79R posse tried to throw me under the bus.
In my experience, being recommended for an Article 15 and having it go up the chain is essentially a guarantee that you're receiving one. Since it's non-judicial there is minimal, if any, due process or representation, and the commander who holds the hearing will usually defer to their subordinate that recommended the action. In other words, if your squad leader doesn't like you and knows how to put things on paper, the platoon and company leadership will probably side with them. While the possible punishments are much higher, a court martial at least rests your fate in the hands of a panel of officers and NCOs as well as a judge. I think what gave me this mindset was sitting in court as a Prisoner Escort for a young Soldier who had gone AWOL and came back having tested positive for about 6 different drugs. The judge was very thorough despite the young man's admitted guilt and while he did some Brig time and a Bad Conduct Discharge he at least got a fair hearing. I've known SPCs that walk into a LTC's office for a fairly minor incident who got maxed out in punishment.
Also, in some units you might find your company commander get promoted to Major and think he has the power to hand out Field Grade Article 15s. In Recruiting and TOG I had this happen, and each time the commander was reminded that while he was a MAJ je was still serving in a company level command position, so Summary and Company Grade were the limits of his power
There are lots of Soldiers who screw the pooch and get slapped with an Article 15, then move on to outstanding careers. It used to be said that getting busted down a rank or two was the quickest way to make E9. I remember a high speed PSG sharing his story during a safety brief, who had gotten a DUI as a PVT and still made E7 in under 10 years.
In the Army, we have a saying: "Be at the right place, at the right time, in the right uniform". I'll add "with the right attitude" to that. It's an easy job despite its occasional demands and hardships. It's not just "you", everyone has problems, so there's no excuse for slacking off or being a general shitbag. If you happen to mess up you move on. One very good thing about the Army is that you might be a zero in one unit, getting started off on the wrong foot or having leadership that targets you, only to be a hero in your next unit, where you get a fresh start and might have learned from earlier mistakes.
Those of you considering, or in the process of, joining, know that military service isn't for everyone. I'm glad I enlisted when I did, and though I could have spent at least three more years in uniform, perhaps even making E8 or E9 and serving beyond 30, it was time for me to hang up the boots when I did.
I knew a guy who got an Article 15 for discharging a fire extinguisher in his dorm and another who either received one or was threatened with one for getting multiple concussions. I wish I remembered clearly, because that was crazy!
Sleeping on duty especially in guard duty
Thats NJP and it is serious. However before the poor guy gets his rectum pulled out, there needs to be BC investigation into leadership of the platoon and company. Did the soldier get his shuteye? Was soldier under medical orders (which may overide chain of command)
Had a Soldier loose his entire TA-50 after his rental car got impounded post accident. Didnt find out about until i was on Terminal Leave which was 4 months after the fact.
What happened?
@@ubcroel4022
Well he got kicked out after owing the Army $7,500.
Super job! I not only hope that folks who are interested in the Army watch your videos, but also folks who are already in because the advice you offer is spot on!
I got my first and only article 15. The weekend i got to my first post, camp humphreys, I had a barfight at Olympia. 30 days restricted to ppst.
Got threatened with an Article 15 for not having a battle buddy at AIT
lmfao!!!
They used to hand out article 15’s like candy at my AIT.
Don't sell vapes in TRADOC.
That's what the money at!
My platoon was part of a change of command ceremony. We had to stand tall and look good for a long time. One soldier got fed up with standing, and just walked off against the Lieutenant's orders to fall in.
bruh that just happened in my unit those ceremonies are fking dog shit .
Yikes
Got a Field grade 15 my last 3 months in. I refused to put my weapons in the arms room. Was asked by my commander why I did not put my weapons in the arms room. I told her. I would never see it till I etsed or pcsed. I had friends many times who asked permission to take their guns out to go shooting. They were never allowed. My commander got yelled at when that was revealed by my Bat commander. My roommate was a rat and told on me. I lost rank from E4 to E3 and 45 days of extra duty and loss of pay. I got my Hon discharge. I requested a open hearing for my Field grade. My Bat commander refused since I was the most popular guy in my unit and told me I would win. I still refused to store my weapon in the arms room. I was told if I reuped. They would drop the charges.
Obeying orders will get you a article 15.
Haha... I earned myself some extra duty and confinement to the barracks for getting super trashed and being passed out on the bathroom floor. But fortunately no Article-15.
Wassup Chris I’m a private fresh out of AIT and I’m reporting to my duty station in 2 weeks the problem is the day before I graduated from AIT I lost my CAC what u think is gonna happen when I show up to my unit and don’t have one I do know my DOD ID number by heart and have my dog tags and orders
🤣
Commonly leadership has to counsel you on accountability of your ID card and then you will have to go to the DEERS office to get a new one. You will have a bit of an issue trying to get on post though. You will have to go through the visitors gate for what ever insulation you are going to and need to get a vehicle inspection and background check done to get on base and have to do that everytime until you get a new ID.
You’re going have report it missing!Sorry dude that gonna suck no other way around it!
Graduate Nov 23 from OUST , would be down to do a Q&A with you in the future, for people getting ready to head out to basic or OUST
Where does dropping (accidentally) an M60 out of Blackhawk into cold water retention pond stack on spectrum?
I'm surprised u didnt say disrespect. I thought tht was a rlly common one
But what happeneds if a soldier breaks his rifle in combat does have pay or pick a another gun on the ground? I’m just faded
If a weapon got damaged in a combat situation then it would get sent off to be repaired if possible and the soldiers would be issued a new weapon because the unit has extra weapons that are taken with them on a deployment.
Yea, I got one, and I'll share it. I was young, dumb, stationed in Germany (then West Germany) in 1983. Me and another soldier were out on the town (Fulda) drinking and we met a couple of young German girls. I decided to be a gentleman and drive them home since the busses had stopped running by then. I got pulled over by the MP's and got a DUI, resulting in an article 15. I lost a stripe and got a $300 fine. I guess I was lucky in one way, that it was not considered nearly as serious as it is today. I knew of officers who got DUI's back then. Now, they might kick you out. Live and learn.
article 15 for leaving hickey on another soldier (both single), article 15 for sneaking off base, having civilian clothing, and drinking underage.
What about having an OF account??? I’ve heard of troops having OF account and making sure they’re incognito from recognition (not seeing face/ making sure there’s no military affiliation within the pictures) I was thinking about it since there’s no rent, why not make extra money with no rent.
I was a legal clerk. 77!to 81. We didn’t have women in combat arms. In the cavalry unit I was in. Article 15s were AWOL, Drunk and Disorderly, Assault, Drugs, DUIs. Yeah if they wanted to get rid of someone you needed justification. Multiple Article 15s did the trick. I did a few Warrant Officer Article 15s . The commanding general does officers
Field grade art 15 for a bar fight. Not the best way to ETS. Lol good times.
Me too!
I knew a captain who got an general grade article 15
I knew some soldiers who ditched their gas masks & NBC protective equipment; they got hit hard, & I was told it would've been even worse, had they not been able to produce said equipment later on, during the investigation. Obviously, they though they didn't need it, & considered it an unneeded burden. WHOOPS! Bad move, sparky!
What’s common reasons you can be demoted as a NCO?
Comon one I've seen are failed drug tests, DUI and caught sleeping with someone your not supposed to be sleeping with (ie they are married or are a lower enlisted soldier).
You said "Article 15" way too many times...that could get you an Article 15😁
Member of the 15 15 30 Club. 15 days extra duty, 15 days restriction to company area and 30 day loss of pay. Won't telll you the details but it could have been worse!
My nco's hairline should get an article 15 🤣
Im s4 and was told as a PFC TO destroy over 30 NVG’s 😂😂😂
Through out my time I served in the Army I got an article 15 for cursing 🤬 out one of my NCO’s in Kuwait 🇰🇼 for yelling at me for something I didn’t do I was just put on 14 days on extra duty when we got to Iraq 🇮🇶. Damn I sure started off my deployment with a blast 💥🤣🤣 . I seen far worse such as soldiers getting in trouble for drugs , we even had one guy that punched his platoon Sargent in the eye 👁, he got kicked out . My second deployment to Afghanistan we had some Sargent that went AWOL he was a piece of shit , we had a PFC that went AWOL around the same time but came back and just got an Article 15 . I can keep going because I witness soldiers get into some serious trouble for a lot of different things.
AWOL in Afghaistan ??? Where did he go ???
@@powerbad696 he went awol before we deployed to Afghanistan , I guess he went home .
@@tonybarnes6154 Oh,that explains that.Thanks for the reply,I was really curious about it.Missing a movement/deployment is REALLY serious business,no way I would've done that,I went to Iraq 4 times.Did 2 deployments back -to-back. LOL.
@@powerbad696 lol ok buddy .
Article-15 USCMJ
We smoked hash in the Barracks all the time while I was in Germany you could not get weed just hash from the Turks.
Hell yeah brother 👊
You can't forget the H and the Mandrix! My Captain told me I should not feel bad for getting all of those Articles 15. He told me that I paid for 2 beds in The Old Soldiers Home!Now I can always say that I supported the troops.
There is no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation” ... Quote from then-Justice Minister Pierre Trudeau, father of Canada's current Prime Minster
What if I misgendered the major of my company?
Notification platoon
Some constructive criticism for you... You don't have to say the example 20 different times in 20 different ways. Every video I've seen you do, you do the intro and then repeat the topic of the video 3 to 5 different ways. Please stop doing that. It's really bad.
first
Funniest thing I ever saw on SDNCO was one of my guys was on extra duty cleaning CO’s and Top’s office. I walk by from the outside and do a double take, because he’s not wearing pants. So I talk to him and he admits that after cleaning he rubbed his bare ass on both desks and piss into Top’s coffee cup. I was getting out, I really didn’t care. That was hilarious. Don’t mess with the E-4 Mafia!🫣🤣