I've been trying to reach out to ASRock about the 128MB flash storage on the board. EVERY other X670E board no matter the price and manufacturer uses 256MB to avoid future upgrade issues like the X370 and X470 boards ran into. Funnily enough, even the Carrara lists as having 256MB. I was under the impression it's just a different color. Would be amazing if you could investigate this.
@@shade8199 I knew it. Crazy how that didn't get picked up on tho. There was quite the fuzz about it. ASRock needs to double check their stuff a bit more :P
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You can plug in your 4090 into 2nd slot, because they both go to CPU, and use 1st slot for anything else. Also, just because PCIE Gen 5 x16 becomes x8 each if 2 are plugged in, you need to realize that Gen 5 PCIE X8 = Gen 4 PCIE x16 by bandwidth and protocol So, no. You can use 4090 and this board, and any other Gen 5 x8/x8 boards
Would love to see a video on memory. ONE 32gb chip. TWO 16gb chips. And FOUR 8gb chips. Preferably all the same MT/s and CL rating. But "close enough" should be "close enough" for testing anyway. AMD's 7950x product page lists 1 DIMM 1 RANK = 5200 MT/s native. 1 DIMM 2 RANK = 5200 MT/s native. 2 DIMM 1 RANK = 3200 MT/s native. and 2 DIMM 2 RANK = 3200 MT/s native. A LOT OF PEOPLE are "reeeeeeeeee" claiming "they mean channel" which is bullshit. Because AMD has always given this information in terms of chip and rank. The 3950x for example. That product page states 2 DIMM 1 RANK and 2 DIMM 2 RANK both get 3200 MT/s native. But 4 DIMM 1 RANK = 2933 MT/s and 4 DIMM 2 RANK = 2667 MT/s.... they don't mean channel, because AMD's desktop parts never reach quad channel and with previous CPU's they stated 2 and 4 for DIMMS not channels. Why would they magically change from that. BUT THEN you also have the FACT that the motherboards even state you can literally run ONE ram. The sticker over the memory slot shows that. 1, 2, and 4 dimm setups. So would you please eventually cover 32gb in the three ways of doing so, 1 32gb dram chip, 2 16gb dram chips (32gb total) and 4 8gb ram chips (32gb total) to see how they perform both gaming and productivity? That would make for a sick scientific test video.
everyone else was blacklisted by Asrock marketing because they were too critical I guess. Buildzoid and Gamer Nexus are in their "naughty list" for example. Wendell is doing Asrock mostly because they are one of the few that championed ECC support
Long time subscriber here... This video made me question an important point that I never faced before: "Does Wendell have a teleprompter???" Because I firmly think he doesn't and this video going through a plethora of information right out of his mind is incredible; nice job :)
Running a 7950x at 65w is something that I would do. I actually run my 5700g at 35w in summer to keep my room from getting too hot. It's almost time for me to switch it back to 65w.
Just on idle these will consume 60W. My 4350G system idles at 25W. 5700G idles at 20W. So efficiency numbers are useless for regular desktop use since most of the time s are actually idling. They can never be more efficient than monolithic mobile die.
@@KaziQTR That's at the stock voltages and such, but some motherboards will let you undervolt them to run at a lower power. The AM4 board I'm using has 4 profiles for my 5700g CPU here, 35w, two different 45w, and a 65w profile. I actually don't leave the system idling though, I have it running Folding@Home constantly, so it is always acting as a space heater so the idle power doesn't matter as much, I just turn the heat down in the summer by limiting the wattage. When its at the lower wattage settings the boost clock speeds are lower. It usually is sitting at 3400mhz at the 35w setting. It will occasionally spike up to 3800, but I think that's the cap. My entire setup including monitors, router, chargers, and accessories only runs at about 120w under load, the monitors are 55-60w of that. I only have a bluray drive and a couple NVMe drives for storage now, all my spinning rust is on servers in the garage. It actually keeps the house warm in the winter though, so I let it run at full power then. (If I kept the garage servers in my room, it would be unbearably hot even in the winter, so I usually leave those out there.)
ASRock always brings it with the taichi. I think it's real slick looking. Dual x8 is nice, but I keep hearing sli is dead... Honestly surprised it doesn't have on board 10 gig Ian.
@@blkspade23 That's a creator board though. The creator/art type boards likely have 10GbE but it does cost more for that feature apparently. I'm not mad at ASRock for not having their flagship mb go over $500 (Carrera costs more but that's just a special edition) when you see Asus and MSI go over $1000 for some of their boards.
SLI is dead, but nvlink isn't and it's still useful for someone that wants it for work. That said I'd be surprised if you weren't using TR for something that needed a couple of A6000s
Nice review as always. That said unless you need to overdose on USB ports the PG Lightning would look to be a better choice for a lot of people at ~1/2 the price. I suspect a lot of these dual pcie5 boards are too far ahead of their time and will be obsolete in some other way(i.e new CPU socket required ) before we get to use those slots at their spec'ed rates
@@iinsomniaaaaa It's moreso that the CPUs will be old by the time the new PCIe standard is actually widely used, and this platform only has a partial PCIe 5 implementation. Think of people buying Intel 10/11th gen CPUs for a partial PCIe 4.0 implementation (only GPU and storage) and how old those chips already are now that PCIe 4 is finally being widely used.
@@iinsomniaaaaa Not in PCIe history. We had PCie4.0 in 2017 and PCIe5.0 in 2019. A doubling in 2 years. PCie3.0 was 7 years before PCie4.0. AM4 did manage to double CPU performance in 3 years going from the 1800x(2017) to the 5950x(2020). We also need to consider that vendors may not want to pull a Radeon RX 6500XT which only supported 4 lanes of fast pcie4.0 lanes but was effectively crippled on older, but ubiquitous PCIe3.0 platforms which would have been fine had AMD supported 8 lanes. For that very reason I suspect GPU vendors will fully support PCIe4.0 until they see exhaustion of at least 8 lanes of PCIe4.0.
@@capsulate8642 To be fair that's mostly because Intel 10th and 11th gens weren't very good. 10th gen was contemporary with the Ryzen 5600X, and that's still a perfectly reasonable processor even though B550 had the same partial PCIe implementation (one x16 slot and one M.2 slot on PCIe4, everything else PCIe3).
Based on the looks, I think it's time to rename the series something more like; steampunk; clockwork, or gear. Taichi made sense when there were YingYang symbols everywhere. Not seeing opposing balance with the current designs.
A couple of extra PCIe slots can forgive a lot of sins elsewhere in a motherboard like this. Want the "old school" 7.1 jacks on the back? Put a sound card in an x1 slot. Want better than the onboard 2.5gbe networking? Add a 10gbe or 25gbe card into an x4 slot. Want more SATA, or eSATA, or video capture, or USB5 when it comes out, or whatever else floats your boat... easy enough to add. Such a shame they decided to cheap out on this. The rest of the board has a lot going for it.
These are supposed to be flagship boards though, they really should have 10GbE by default. It's literally ten years overdue now. I don't personally care about audio, I exclusively do that over HDMI and bluetooth anyway, but I do still think support for at least 5.1 should be included. A home theatre with only stereo is just no good. I considered ASRock, but bought Asus' Proart instead. It's standard ATX form factor, it has better rear IO, it has dual networking (including the much vaunted 10GbE!), thermistor pins in case you want to base fan speed off of coolant temperature in a custom loop, and three full size PCIe slots that can operate as either x16-0-x4 or x8-x8-x4. Asus claims it supports ECC memory, and it's also a fair bit cheaper than its ASRock counterpart. ASRock deserve credit for consistently supporting ECC memory, but they cut too many corners elsewhere for my tastes. It's not as bad as shipping your motherboard with a USB sound card (yes Asus, that's silly), but for a workstation brand ASRock really dropped the ball on productivity this generation. Basically the only thing they beat the Proart on is SATA ports, but a) those aren't worth paying 10% more for and b) the only use those have in current year is in a NAS, in which case why are you buying an expensive flagship motherboard that doesn't even have 10GbE?
@@СусаннаСергеевна Maybe I'm greedy, but I actually want *more* than 3 slots--especially as I consider two of those to each be half a slot (if you need to split a 16 to an 8/8, that's useful but doesn't completely count as an extra slot to me). These newer chipsets have MORE than enough I/O coming off the chipset to have two or more x4 slots and a handful of x1 slots for other things. As for 10gbe coming off the motherboard--unless they offer it as a SFP+ port (most don't), it's not too useful to me since I use DACs and optics for everything. So the AIC will still be needed. It also wouldn't be useful when you want to go 25Gbe. I want a mobo with slots aplenty, so I don't need to replace it when the smaller things on it become obsolete.
@@MatthewHill I understand that desire, and agree with a lot of it, but I've found that sockets die faster than NICs. I've been using an old dual narrow 1151 board with 10GbE for years, and for my NAS I don't think I'll be upgrading to 25 for a good while longer. In my use case I benefit more from reduced latency than from increased bandwidth, so a wider NIC doesn't really matter to me. I think 10GbE on the motherboard is a good tradeoff between the superior choice (25Gb SFP+, which would be very bulky, very hot, and too expensive considering only a handful of people would ever use it) and the so-called "reasonable" choice of a useless but cheap 2.5Gb port with a cringey name presumably given from how it kills my hopes and expectations. Giving us more lanes by stacking them on the chipset I don't like, because mostly I'm using my PCIe for SSD storage, and that's _very_ latency dependent. You could put a dozen x16 electrical slots behind a chipset, but anything plugged in there has to talk to the CPU through the chipset, and only gets up to four lanes to do that through. It would be better to just make bigger processors so we can get more CPU-attached lanes instead. I agree that we deserve more lanes on high-end consumer motherboards, but compared to the competition AM5 is actually pretty generous there. 28 lanes means one sixteen lane slot (it's super silly to waste sixteen PCIe5 lanes on a GPU which can at most saturate four lanes, but the market basically demands it so I won't fault manufacturers for doing it), four lanes to the chipset, and eight lanes left over, where AMD requires that four of them be spent on a PCIe5 M.2 slot for some reason and the other four can be used however the motherboard vendor wishes, whether in a separate slot or on things like USB/Thunderbolt or dual NICs. Believe me, I also want seven slots each fully wired up as x16 with configurable bifurcation to be a standard feature, but circumstances force me to concede to pragmatism. We're just looking in the wrong product category for that. I'm fine with low-end "gamer" SKUs having only a 1Gb NIC, only one ESP12V 4-pin plug, and only one x16 slot, because that's all a gamer needs, and just the same I'm fine with my workstation ProArt board having "only" three x16 slots because that's all a typical workstation needs, and (for now at least) it's all I need. I would love some more RAM channels because 128GB isn't actually an improvement from my old setup, but it is what it is and we'll hopefully get 64GB per DIMM soon enough. For higher end workstation needs, like yours, there's Threadripper and server motherboards. You can get SFP+ on a number of Xeon or Epyc boards, and they actually populate all their PCIe lanes directly to the processor. For my workstation, I'd rather get the basics I need (10GbE, HDMI for picture and audio, a handful of USB ports for my mouse and keyboards) from the motherboard itself, and leave the remaining slots open for SSDs. I don't object to things I don't need, like analog sound ports or WiFi, because in the case of the former it costs basically nothing to have it and in the case of the latter I know normies can't bear being without it (not that I understand why anyone would put a workstation motherboard in a PC they're moving around frequently enough to justify wireless networking).
The VRM and heatsinks are perfectly capable of handling 7950x. That VRM fan is completely unneccesary...I hate when manufacturers put some dumb gimmick in which only unneccessarily raises the already very high price...and ASRock tends to do that often, along Asus.
More excited for the b650 boards. Not excited for the price as it seems all the board makers are trying to milk consumers for the first month or so of availability.
Don't mind me, just hardware shopping for a LONG overdue unRAID server upgrade. Seems this board may not be my first pick. I need probably just 1 x16 plus some (2 or 3) lower bandwidth PCI-e peripherals. The 8 SATA are nice though.
I may of missed it but as far as I can tell this "flagship" doesn't even have a single T sensor among other missing simple features you would expect from a flagship. It has less onboard memory then competing boards too, which could mean later AM5 chips may or may not be supported(needs further investigation to be sure). All this missing on a flagship... Flagships should be more or less no compromises with features. Feels kind of crap to pay 500+ for boards that have less features then a $200 board from last generation. Prices are supposed to drop 20-30% after the first shipment of boards as confirmed by MLD. That will make the price easier to swallow at least.
Looking forward to the Z790 Taichi review next. We'll finally get the answer to the eternal question: Which is heavier - 17 pounds of gears and sprockets or 17 pounds of marble slabs? 8:05 you didn't mention anything about the other big audioport change I see on this mobo: the different location at the middle of the backplate? Although is that really a big change? First time I've seen something like that.
As a Asrock customer: The question is: How good is the EFI Support going to be, because the Support for my X470 was... not great. At some point they always released a new Version but a lot of the times it was... meh. Some EFI Verisons even were released as "Release Version" when AMD released their stuff as "Beta". (When the Switch from 2XXXX to 3XXXX Ryzen happend) After the installation on my X470, my system was almost unusuable... for months. So Asrock support... meh.
🧐Great overview! I have a question though about the Ryzen 7xxx processor capability, can the igpu handle running a monitor/tv @ 8k60hz ?? not gaming just for apps at that res.
Noticed with this motherboard that it Has Killer E3100G 2.5 g Ethernet. However, that particular version of killer does Allow for one gig upload only download. The upload caps out at 100 megabytes per second.
Sure a lot of these boards are pretty but when are we actually going to see some boards actually using 12V? I hope some time before the 7800X3D releases. I don't think I would even consider a new platform until that becomes completely standard.
Love this board, but the sticker on the DIMM slots was a bad idea. Mine came off fine, but I’ve seen others have sticky residue inside the slot which is hard to remove.
I have a Asrock Steel legend put together it wasn't posting. I re-installed the CPU and ram and was waiting. All of a sudden something flashed on the screen. I don't think I gave it enough time for all the members testing the first try. Not 2 minutes anyway.
Like the Thunderb... excuse me, USB4, but I wish the Wifi 6 was 6E. Can't seem to find anything with both, and some of the damn 650E boards are more expensive than this thing!
AAAAAAnnnnd the price gouging continues. Prices for the ryzen 7000 cps have all gone up here in Canada except the local retailer here. just great, I think I'm waiting a month for the rush to die down, better expo memory support and scope out what is coming down the pipeline for motherboards and the new GPUs as well
So are the USB-C inputs on this Thunderbolt certified? I been looking for an AMD motherboard with thunderbolt ports and it is slim pickings. Not only are there very few but they are all expensive, but the thunderbolt lingo is all over the place. I see; USB4, USB4+, USB4 lightning connector. I see the little lightning mark next to it which makes think its thunderbolt lmao. Sorry just shopping for this sucks.
Q: Does this mean that the “USB 4 40 Gbps” support for X670 that was leaked a year or so ago is just the manufacturers slapping Intel Thunderbolt 4 controllers on the motherboards?
@@Level1Techs What is the actual deal with the definitely not Thunderbolt *wink wink* ports on these X670 boards? Do they support PCIe passthrough? It seems like Intel is once again delaying or blocking certification on AMD platforms. The nearly identical Z790 Taichi lists TB4 on the feature set and seemingly had no problem getting certification from Intel.... hmmm.
@@NJRoadfanYes, sometime last year Gigabyte screwed up and straight-up stated that Intel had stopped certifying new non-Intel motherboards for Thunderbolt. Petty dick move. But yes, all Thunderbolt features work, you can just install the Thunderbolt drivers directly from Intel’s website.
I REAMMY like MemoryTryIt on..... MSI? I've got this tiny ITX build in an InWinB1 and a 5600G, i threw in some HP V10 32GB 3600C14-14-14-28 RAM (dual rank B dye) and with that memory try it, it just went right to 4200C14-14-14-28, now it gave it more voltage than it needed, but to get just have a 1 click overclock that gives you an extra 600MT/s without sacrificing timings is just crazy. And yes, i checked in BIOS and in ZenTimings, this was in 1:1 with gear down disabled
I was pleasantly surprised to see ASRock put so many rear USB ports on the X670E Steel Legend... but then the Taichi seems to go backwards again. Then I looked at the corresponding Z790 boards and uh... wow, they're embarrassingly bad in most cases. Such a shame that ASRock always skimps on their USB ports (and sometimes other things, like PCIe slots - seriously, no x1 slots is just disappointing).
Maybe, but this board is *the* AM5 board with the most storage options. Both sata 3 and M.2 NVMe slots. I think that the idea is that most of those X1 and X2 slot devices should switch to M.2 instead from now on.
Hi Wendell, I was thinking about a proof of concept. Using a 7700X with 32/64Go of RAM, and xcp-ng. On one side, 6 cores and half the RAM with the main GPU, on the other side, 2 cores, IGP/second GPU(av1?) and an acquisition card for streaming and encoding. I know you said the iommu is not stable yet, but it's just an idea. With the horsepower of these cores, I think it will be fine.
I was sold with "block diagram in manual" :DD ... AND maple ridge ctlr ,) tbolt on windows works like on linux ?? What about B650E, same ctlr for USB4? I'm thinking of B650E when it's out and probably 7700x, depends now on how much mobo will cost, or else I'll go just full blown X670E and 7950X and dump HP Z6 G4 now and have gaming and workstation in single system, just waiting till november to see RDNA3 and first PCI-E 5.0 SSDs come out...
Noob question, as of this moment, the latest BIOS update suggests using flashback method, my rig is built do I need to tear down and follow the “flashback” method to update? Or can I leave the rig and and pull the 2 x 8 pin power, then follow “flashback” procedure?
Someone on Reddit had that board and absolutely couldn't get the sticker on the ram off. It left a giant half peeled mess like pulling a sticker off a cardboard box. Any issue with this one?
Suggestion for a review of the ASUS ProArt X670-CREATOR WIFI, the X570 predecessor has become the best AM4 allround platform in my opinion, the X670 seems to also do proper DDR5 ECC.
I've got a ProArt and 64GBs of ECC DDR5 on the way from China, I should have them by next weekend. If thence you're still curious, reply to this and I'll let you know if my RAM worked with it or not.
@@abavariannormiepleb9470 They're two kits of paired, unbranded engineering samples. Supposedly Samsung chips, clocked at 4800. They look genuine enough, I'm as curious as you are at this point. I just bought them to test the board with, I already have 128GB of 5600 non-ECC RAM I'll actually be using on the computer. ECC DDR5 will come with Sapphire Rapids, so soon®™.
@@СусаннаСергеевна Do you mean Sapphire Rapid’s workstation variant? The regular SR just gobbles up the at least available registered ECC memory. I remain flabbergasted that even with the release of W680 DDR5 motherboards many months ago, still DDR5 ECC UDIMMs have remained elusive unicorns.
@@abavariannormiepleb9470 I mean anything with Sapphire Rapids. It's not out yet, right? I'm just hoping that once the Xeon behemoth gets into DDR5, all forms of that memory will become more readily available.
Only 2 PCIE expansion slots? I remember the time that motherboards actually had 7 expansion slots. Back in the time of ISA, VLB and PCI. This motherboard would not be my pick.
Technically it has 7, it's just that 4 of them are M.2 2080 slots and 1 is a shorty M.2 prepopulated with a wifi card. In general most motherboards these days will have very few standard PCIe slots because a) expansion card usage is going way down, and b) manufacturers are diverting more lanes to the M.2 slots for large capacity NVMe configurations. Tbh I can see where they're coming from, I'm planning an AM4 server build and even coming from a first gen Threadripper with its absurdly large number of PCIe lanes I'm finding M.2 to be more limiting than normal slots, since all I really need is 1-2 GPUs at most, a network card and maybe a HBA, but I'm after multiple M.2 drives for OS and application storage as well as caching.
@@burtbalmer I'm talking about a server build though, ASRock isn't building this for servers, even more than other brands since they've got a separate, specific server brand (ASRock Rack). No one's gaming machine needs a HBA or a multi port 10GbE NIC
@@bosstowndynamics5488 I do not game at all. All my machines must have 10 GBE, because they talk to a NAS. I edit video, and I need more than 2 PCI slots..As for gaming machines not needing multi-NIC and 10GBE, I used to have (it died) an Asrock Z390 Phantom Gaming. It had 3 network interfaces, one 10 GBE.
yeah one of the selling features of this chipset is that it guarantees that the motherboard will have two pcie slots from CPU at x8 (if used together) to use for GPUs. The rest of the pcie lanes are used for NVME M.2 slots
check out der8auer 7000 series delidding direct contact cooling temps its amazing the cooling it makes. from 95c to 55-65c takes special delidder he has created .
@@murphy7801 most likely because the IHS in AM5 (the metal plate on top of CPU) is too thick, designed to maintain cooler compatibility. At least AMD isn't using cheapo white thermal paste between die and IHS like Intel did in the past
@@marcogenovesi8570 I actually kind of wish they used thermal paste. It would make delidding easier and safer, with no need to clean up solder. The IHS is so thick here you'll need to delid if you want to OC and not immediately hit 95C anyway
@@Hypnodog_ You don't need to overclock to hit 95 degrees, that will happen even if your rig is well cooled and running on a stock configuration. AMD says it's not a problem, so it probably isn't. Intel have been running their laptop CPUs at 110 degrees for years and the only adverse effect there is awful battery life and burned thighs. If you're planning to delid, I would proceed with caution. Roman managed to break half the processors he attempted the process on, and he's a lot more experienced than you or I. In hindsight, cooler compatibility really isn't worth the thermal effects the tall heat spreader brings with it, especially not when most coolers won't be compatible anyway because they all depend on special backplates. I can only assume AMD did it anyway because they're planning to stack dies really high in the future. Apparently that caused trouble with the 5800X3D.
** Function of the Audio Ports in 2, 4 or 5.1-channel Configuration: Channel Port Function 2ch Line Out Jack (Rear Panel) Front speaker out 4ch Pink-Mic (Front Panel) Rear speaker out 5.1ch Microphone Input Jack (Rear Panel) Central/Subwoofer speaker out
Hello, I recently finished building my PC, I have: 7950x3d processor asrock x670e tai chi wifi motherboard -the source is 1000w 80 plus platinum -gpu 7900 xtx 24 gb -ram g.skill trident z5 32 gb 2x16 6000 mhz When installing Windows 10 random blue screen, temperatures are supposed to be fine, Does anyone know anything about the error beforehand? thank you
"Flagship" from ASRock means you get a board that looks good hardware wise, but which YOU CAN NOT USE at full potential, because ASRocks regularly messes up the BIOS. On one version one setting has no function, next version another setting doesn´t work.. it´s ridiculous. But it doesn´t matter, because most reviewers don´t (more like, can´t, I do understand that!) have an in-depth look at their bios settings and if they actually do anything / what they should. Had this with x470 Taichi and x570 Aqua.. i´m done with their "flagships".
Its a 7.1 solution How? Windows is only showing 2 channel stereo via toslink One line out Jack, gonna have to get via nvidia hdmi. Sucks for a 550 buck board. Running windows 11. Analog 7.1 That sucks.
I lament the loss of the PS/2 port. Now I have to get an adapter to hook up my Model M. For this price and with the obvious space on the rear I/O, just be cool and add the thing.
How many companies do you think that are going to come out with a b650 motherboard for AMD that has the PCI Express 5.0 on the graphics card slot rather than the m.2 slot (unless of course you pay more money then you'll get the m.2 pci-5.0 version which will more than likely be actually fucking useful) you know because video cards are clearly eating up all that bandwidth
All of them will, that slot has sixteen lanes coming directly from the CPU. It would be silly to deliberately shield the traces poorly when you're already forced to ground shield the DDR5 RAM, it wouldn't actually save any money in production.
So if you have an older analog 5.1/7.1 setup, you'll need an audio card... hopefully you don't need any other cards, (e.g.: capture) as you're SOL. :-/
Yeah Asrock ..... Had 2 Boards. An Asrock B350 something - 2 SATA Ports, which always produced errors. After a quick google search, turns out that's a common problem with that model. Asrock X570 Taichi -> Bios/Boot Problems with various Bios Versions (e.g. the "latest" one for 5800X3D - which STILL is only listed as Beta. Yep, Asrock is lazy and doesn't support their Flagship Boards). Also the Chipset Fan is loud as fuck, and absolutely not nescessary. They slammed TWO(!!!!!) Thermal Pads between the Chipset and the "cooler" ..... i've replaced those pads with copper shims and thermal paste, and the chipset fan doesn't need to turn on anymore. So IF those Idi*** would have actual engineers design their boards, they would have slapped a proper cooling block on the Chipset, instead of going for cool looks, with a "heatsink" that thoes NOTHING to dissapate heat. NEVER AGAIN ASROCK!
I don't like the chipset CPU link config, and in fact I'm going to skip these boards because of. X570 already gives the same speed through the link. I want to see that speed double before I buy another system. I don't need 50 USB ports but I run NVMe through the chipset, and there are times I can be using both NVMe and USB ports and I just don't like that daisy chain config. I want to see two chipsets, each with a gen5 link which will distribute heat when you're using multiple devices at the same time. The problem is NVMe are going to get faster and start exceeding gen4 X4. What if you want to RAID them? And don't tell me about how this isn't good, it's my system. You CAN RAID NVMe, but you can't get the performance of RAIDing them when 3 NVMe ports run through an 8Gbps link unless they're older NVMe drives.
Im watching this video on my B550 Taichi and its A FCKING JOKE what they wanna sell me at X670E as "Taichi". WHY ARE THERE ONLY TWO EXPANSION SLOTS?!?!?! Where i am supposed to put in my fcking Soundcard and the 10 Gbit network card in on this FCKING 500€ board?! And they just did it with X870E again ... whats the point with two expansion slots?
@@NeoDon1Well you can also have the over the top Asus branding plastering obnoxious logos, lighting and random phrases across the entire board if you prefer that. I don't love the Taichi esthetics but I appreciate a simpler approach without all the self-aggrandizing. The Carrera does look pretty good for those who like white.
I've been trying to reach out to ASRock about the 128MB flash storage on the board. EVERY other X670E board no matter the price and manufacturer uses 256MB to avoid future upgrade issues like the X370 and X470 boards ran into. Funnily enough, even the Carrara lists as having 256MB. I was under the impression it's just a different color. Would be amazing if you could investigate this.
Just an update since this post is up there, they said it was a typo on the website and it’s actually 256mb
@@shade8199 I knew it. Crazy how that didn't get picked up on tho. There was quite the fuzz about it. ASRock needs to double check their stuff a bit more :P
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All ASRock X670E boards should come with an added description that says: "If you're using a RTX 4090, forget about the 2nd PCIE slot".
MSI SUPRIM LIQUID here to save the day
this is problem for budget streamers only. But if you are good streamer you will have minimum 3 PC's
@@moneyl6594 It's made to not leave forensic evidence on their main PC when they chat with underaged victims. :o)
@@JackieFrankieful Or just use the encoders you have in a 4090 for each separate stream and not notice any difference in performance?
You can plug in your 4090 into 2nd slot, because they both go to CPU, and use 1st slot for anything else.
Also, just because PCIE Gen 5 x16 becomes x8 each if 2 are plugged in, you need to realize that Gen 5 PCIE X8 = Gen 4 PCIE x16 by bandwidth and protocol
So, no. You can use 4090 and this board, and any other Gen 5 x8/x8 boards
I just bought this board, Was glad to find a thorough review on it :)
The Taichi boards are always great!
Would love to see a video on memory. ONE 32gb chip. TWO 16gb chips. And FOUR 8gb chips. Preferably all the same MT/s and CL rating. But "close enough" should be "close enough" for testing anyway.
AMD's 7950x product page lists 1 DIMM 1 RANK = 5200 MT/s native. 1 DIMM 2 RANK = 5200 MT/s native. 2 DIMM 1 RANK = 3200 MT/s native. and 2 DIMM 2 RANK = 3200 MT/s native. A LOT OF PEOPLE are "reeeeeeeeee" claiming "they mean channel" which is bullshit. Because AMD has always given this information in terms of chip and rank. The 3950x for example. That product page states 2 DIMM 1 RANK and 2 DIMM 2 RANK both get 3200 MT/s native. But 4 DIMM 1 RANK = 2933 MT/s and 4 DIMM 2 RANK = 2667 MT/s.... they don't mean channel, because AMD's desktop parts never reach quad channel and with previous CPU's they stated 2 and 4 for DIMMS not channels. Why would they magically change from that. BUT THEN you also have the FACT that the motherboards even state you can literally run ONE ram. The sticker over the memory slot shows that. 1, 2, and 4 dimm setups.
So would you please eventually cover 32gb in the three ways of doing so, 1 32gb dram chip, 2 16gb dram chips (32gb total) and 4 8gb ram chips (32gb total) to see how they perform both gaming and productivity? That would make for a sick scientific test video.
Yes man, this is really needed 👍
Its funny out of all the tech people i watch on RUclips, Wendell is the only one who features ASRock products.
everyone else was blacklisted by Asrock marketing because they were too critical I guess. Buildzoid and Gamer Nexus are in their "naughty list" for example.
Wendell is doing Asrock mostly because they are one of the few that championed ECC support
Asrock has been notorious for blacklisting any reviewers that give them negative critique, take Gamers Nexus for example.
@@PrimalRampageGaming actually think Hardware Unboxed has mentioned that
Long time subscriber here... This video made me question an important point that I never faced before:
"Does Wendell have a teleprompter???"
Because I firmly think he doesn't and this video going through a plethora of information right out of his mind is incredible; nice job :)
he does (when he is looking at the top left into the distance). He does ramble on unscripted frequently tho
In this case the teleprompter was in my imagination . . .
@@Level1Techs Do NOT trust that one! That fucker will betray you. I speak from experience...
Bought this motherboard paired with my 7950x, good so far, main complaint is how complicated the bios is.
I have used asus in the past
Your sarcasm cracks me up! I did just buy this board after watching your video
Excellent video, they do good AMD boards, for overclockers this would be the board to get.
Thank you!
I’ve been waiting for this
Running a 7950x at 65w is something that I would do. I actually run my 5700g at 35w in summer to keep my room from getting too hot. It's almost time for me to switch it back to 65w.
How much does that affect gaming core speeds? If at all, since that's a pretty low setting
The limited games that I play on it are still playable at least, I mostly switched to steamdeck for gaming though.
Just on idle these will consume 60W. My 4350G system idles at 25W. 5700G idles at 20W. So efficiency numbers are useless for regular desktop use since most of the time s are actually idling. They can never be more efficient than monolithic mobile die.
@@KaziQTR That's at the stock voltages and such, but some motherboards will let you undervolt them to run at a lower power. The AM4 board I'm using has 4 profiles for my 5700g CPU here, 35w, two different 45w, and a 65w profile.
I actually don't leave the system idling though, I have it running Folding@Home constantly, so it is always acting as a space heater so the idle power doesn't matter as much, I just turn the heat down in the summer by limiting the wattage. When its at the lower wattage settings the boost clock speeds are lower. It usually is sitting at 3400mhz at the 35w setting. It will occasionally spike up to 3800, but I think that's the cap. My entire setup including monitors, router, chargers, and accessories only runs at about 120w under load, the monitors are 55-60w of that. I only have a bluray drive and a couple NVMe drives for storage now, all my spinning rust is on servers in the garage.
It actually keeps the house warm in the winter though, so I let it run at full power then. (If I kept the garage servers in my room, it would be unbearably hot even in the winter, so I usually leave those out there.)
It's just like Christmas with all the new 'toys', Wendell! Thank you for all your work & product reviews...🇺🇸 😎👍☕
What a funny and joyful nerdy dude
Lol I loved the LET'S BUILD! at the end. 🤣
Very balanced and informative. Thank you for posting.
ASRock always brings it with the taichi. I think it's real slick looking. Dual x8 is nice, but I keep hearing sli is dead... Honestly surprised it doesn't have on board 10 gig Ian.
But it does have "not thunderbolt". Which genuinely is nice. 👍
The lack of 10Gbe in these X670E boards bothers me. I have the Asrock X570 Creator that I got in part for the built-in 10Gbe, plus TB3 for $480.
Crossfire isn't technically dead, so I guess there is always an option ;)
@@blkspade23 That's a creator board though. The creator/art type boards likely have 10GbE but it does cost more for that feature apparently. I'm not mad at ASRock for not having their flagship mb go over $500 (Carrera costs more but that's just a special edition) when you see Asus and MSI go over $1000 for some of their boards.
SLI is dead, but nvlink isn't and it's still useful for someone that wants it for work.
That said I'd be surprised if you weren't using TR for something that needed a couple of A6000s
Motherboards kinda expensive.... A complete understatement.
7:04 "The Power is in Your Hands."
Nice review as always. That said unless you need to overdose on USB ports the PG Lightning would look to be a better choice for a lot of people at ~1/2 the price. I suspect a lot of these dual pcie5 boards are too far ahead of their time and will be obsolete in some other way(i.e new CPU socket required ) before we get to use those slots at their spec'ed rates
interesting point. Is there precedent for that in previous PCIe generations?
@@iinsomniaaaaa It's moreso that the CPUs will be old by the time the new PCIe standard is actually widely used, and this platform only has a partial PCIe 5 implementation. Think of people buying Intel 10/11th gen CPUs for a partial PCIe 4.0 implementation (only GPU and storage) and how old those chips already are now that PCIe 4 is finally being widely used.
@@capsulate8642 I'm not even sure what sort of use case requires PCIe5 bandwidth in consumer applications to begin with, so you're probably right.
@@iinsomniaaaaa Not in PCIe history. We had PCie4.0 in 2017 and PCIe5.0 in 2019. A doubling in 2 years. PCie3.0 was 7 years before PCie4.0. AM4 did manage to double CPU performance in 3 years going from the 1800x(2017) to the 5950x(2020). We also need to consider that vendors may not want to pull a Radeon RX 6500XT which only supported 4 lanes of fast pcie4.0 lanes but was effectively crippled on older, but ubiquitous PCIe3.0 platforms which would have been fine had AMD supported 8 lanes. For that very reason I suspect GPU vendors will fully support PCIe4.0 until they see exhaustion of at least 8 lanes of PCIe4.0.
@@capsulate8642 To be fair that's mostly because Intel 10th and 11th gens weren't very good. 10th gen was contemporary with the Ryzen 5600X, and that's still a perfectly reasonable processor even though B550 had the same partial PCIe implementation (one x16 slot and one M.2 slot on PCIe4, everything else PCIe3).
I think that was the first time I saw someone put a CPU in a motherboard while holding it during a recording.
Based on the looks, I think it's time to rename the series something more like; steampunk; clockwork, or gear. Taichi made sense when there were YingYang symbols everywhere. Not seeing opposing balance with the current designs.
"The Philosophy of Infinite Potential" is the most chinese thing I've heard in a long while
A couple of extra PCIe slots can forgive a lot of sins elsewhere in a motherboard like this. Want the "old school" 7.1 jacks on the back? Put a sound card in an x1 slot. Want better than the onboard 2.5gbe networking? Add a 10gbe or 25gbe card into an x4 slot. Want more SATA, or eSATA, or video capture, or USB5 when it comes out, or whatever else floats your boat... easy enough to add. Such a shame they decided to cheap out on this. The rest of the board has a lot going for it.
These are supposed to be flagship boards though, they really should have 10GbE by default. It's literally ten years overdue now. I don't personally care about audio, I exclusively do that over HDMI and bluetooth anyway, but I do still think support for at least 5.1 should be included. A home theatre with only stereo is just no good.
I considered ASRock, but bought Asus' Proart instead. It's standard ATX form factor, it has better rear IO, it has dual networking (including the much vaunted 10GbE!), thermistor pins in case you want to base fan speed off of coolant temperature in a custom loop, and three full size PCIe slots that can operate as either x16-0-x4 or x8-x8-x4. Asus claims it supports ECC memory, and it's also a fair bit cheaper than its ASRock counterpart. ASRock deserve credit for consistently supporting ECC memory, but they cut too many corners elsewhere for my tastes. It's not as bad as shipping your motherboard with a USB sound card (yes Asus, that's silly), but for a workstation brand ASRock really dropped the ball on productivity this generation. Basically the only thing they beat the Proart on is SATA ports, but a) those aren't worth paying 10% more for and b) the only use those have in current year is in a NAS, in which case why are you buying an expensive flagship motherboard that doesn't even have 10GbE?
@@СусаннаСергеевна Maybe I'm greedy, but I actually want *more* than 3 slots--especially as I consider two of those to each be half a slot (if you need to split a 16 to an 8/8, that's useful but doesn't completely count as an extra slot to me). These newer chipsets have MORE than enough I/O coming off the chipset to have two or more x4 slots and a handful of x1 slots for other things.
As for 10gbe coming off the motherboard--unless they offer it as a SFP+ port (most don't), it's not too useful to me since I use DACs and optics for everything. So the AIC will still be needed. It also wouldn't be useful when you want to go 25Gbe.
I want a mobo with slots aplenty, so I don't need to replace it when the smaller things on it become obsolete.
@@MatthewHill I understand that desire, and agree with a lot of it, but I've found that sockets die faster than NICs. I've been using an old dual narrow 1151 board with 10GbE for years, and for my NAS I don't think I'll be upgrading to 25 for a good while longer. In my use case I benefit more from reduced latency than from increased bandwidth, so a wider NIC doesn't really matter to me. I think 10GbE on the motherboard is a good tradeoff between the superior choice (25Gb SFP+, which would be very bulky, very hot, and too expensive considering only a handful of people would ever use it) and the so-called "reasonable" choice of a useless but cheap 2.5Gb port with a cringey name presumably given from how it kills my hopes and expectations. Giving us more lanes by stacking them on the chipset I don't like, because mostly I'm using my PCIe for SSD storage, and that's _very_ latency dependent. You could put a dozen x16 electrical slots behind a chipset, but anything plugged in there has to talk to the CPU through the chipset, and only gets up to four lanes to do that through. It would be better to just make bigger processors so we can get more CPU-attached lanes instead.
I agree that we deserve more lanes on high-end consumer motherboards, but compared to the competition AM5 is actually pretty generous there. 28 lanes means one sixteen lane slot (it's super silly to waste sixteen PCIe5 lanes on a GPU which can at most saturate four lanes, but the market basically demands it so I won't fault manufacturers for doing it), four lanes to the chipset, and eight lanes left over, where AMD requires that four of them be spent on a PCIe5 M.2 slot for some reason and the other four can be used however the motherboard vendor wishes, whether in a separate slot or on things like USB/Thunderbolt or dual NICs. Believe me, I also want seven slots each fully wired up as x16 with configurable bifurcation to be a standard feature, but circumstances force me to concede to pragmatism. We're just looking in the wrong product category for that. I'm fine with low-end "gamer" SKUs having only a 1Gb NIC, only one ESP12V 4-pin plug, and only one x16 slot, because that's all a gamer needs, and just the same I'm fine with my workstation ProArt board having "only" three x16 slots because that's all a typical workstation needs, and (for now at least) it's all I need. I would love some more RAM channels because 128GB isn't actually an improvement from my old setup, but it is what it is and we'll hopefully get 64GB per DIMM soon enough. For higher end workstation needs, like yours, there's Threadripper and server motherboards. You can get SFP+ on a number of Xeon or Epyc boards, and they actually populate all their PCIe lanes directly to the processor. For my workstation, I'd rather get the basics I need (10GbE, HDMI for picture and audio, a handful of USB ports for my mouse and keyboards) from the motherboard itself, and leave the remaining slots open for SSDs. I don't object to things I don't need, like analog sound ports or WiFi, because in the case of the former it costs basically nothing to have it and in the case of the latter I know normies can't bear being without it (not that I understand why anyone would put a workstation motherboard in a PC they're moving around frequently enough to justify wireless networking).
Just got this board for $270 I'm excited
Best mobo from asrock I had was z270 supercarrier. Wish they brought back that model with todays chipsets..
The VRM and heatsinks are perfectly capable of handling 7950x. That VRM fan is completely unneccesary...I hate when manufacturers put some dumb gimmick in which only unneccessarily raises the already very high price...and ASRock tends to do that often, along Asus.
14:16 I knew Wendall would have the technical terminology up to snuff on thunderbolt hahaha 😅😂🤣😂🤯👍
ME= Ordered Steel Ledged mobo Hoping its at least similar and this doesn't shatter my hopes at solid performance.
The power of the sun in the palm of my hand
More excited for the b650 boards. Not excited for the price as it seems all the board makers are trying to milk consumers for the first month or so of availability.
Don't mind me, just hardware shopping for a LONG overdue unRAID server upgrade. Seems this board may not be my first pick. I need probably just 1 x16 plus some (2 or 3) lower bandwidth PCI-e peripherals. The 8 SATA are nice though.
I may of missed it but as far as I can tell this "flagship" doesn't even have a single T sensor among other missing simple features you would expect from a flagship. It has less onboard memory then competing boards too, which could mean later AM5 chips may or may not be supported(needs further investigation to be sure). All this missing on a flagship... Flagships should be more or less no compromises with features. Feels kind of crap to pay 500+ for boards that have less features then a $200 board from last generation. Prices are supposed to drop 20-30% after the first shipment of boards as confirmed by MLD. That will make the price easier to swallow at least.
When did motherboards first get the ability to train with new memory and on a technical level how did they first accomplish it?
Wonder how heavy it would be if the Marble version was actually made from marble?
Looking forward to the Z790 Taichi review next. We'll finally get the answer to the eternal question: Which is heavier - 17 pounds of gears and sprockets or 17 pounds of marble slabs? 8:05 you didn't mention anything about the other big audioport change I see on this mobo: the different location at the middle of the backplate? Although is that really a big change? First time I've seen something like that.
As a Asrock customer: The question is: How good is the EFI Support going to be, because the Support for my X470 was... not great.
At some point they always released a new Version but a lot of the times it was... meh.
Some EFI Verisons even were released as "Release Version" when AMD released their stuff as "Beta". (When the Switch from 2XXXX to 3XXXX Ryzen happend)
After the installation on my X470, my system was almost unusuable... for months.
So Asrock support... meh.
11:01 Wendell's chuckle of approval.
ECC support on this? Anyway I think I'll be waiting for B750(E) at least until upgrading (yes, zen5 or later)
🧐Great overview! I have a question though about the Ryzen 7xxx processor capability, can the igpu handle running a monitor/tv @ 8k60hz ?? not gaming just for apps at that res.
2:24 Not a big problem, I only reboot once or twice a month.
Noticed with this motherboard that it Has Killer E3100G 2.5 g Ethernet. However, that particular version of killer does Allow for one gig upload only download. The upload caps out at 100 megabytes per second.
Sure a lot of these boards are pretty but when are we actually going to see some boards actually using 12V? I hope some time before the 7800X3D releases. I don't think I would even consider a new platform until that becomes completely standard.
Do they have to? I was under the impression that the new standard was for prebuilts, not for mainstream
Love this board, but the sticker on the DIMM slots was a bad idea. Mine came off fine, but I’ve seen others have sticky residue inside the slot which is hard to remove.
I have a Asrock Steel legend put together it wasn't posting. I re-installed the CPU and ram and was waiting. All of a sudden something flashed on the screen. I don't think I gave it enough time for all the members testing the first try. Not 2 minutes anyway.
Like the Thunderb... excuse me, USB4, but I wish the Wifi 6 was 6E. Can't seem to find anything with both, and some of the damn 650E boards are more expensive than this thing!
AAAAAAnnnnd the price gouging continues. Prices for the ryzen 7000 cps have all gone up here in Canada except the local retailer here. just great, I think I'm waiting a month for the rush to die down, better expo memory support and scope out what is coming down the pipeline for motherboards and the new GPUs as well
So are the USB-C inputs on this Thunderbolt certified? I been looking for an AMD motherboard with thunderbolt ports and it is slim pickings. Not only are there very few but they are all expensive, but the thunderbolt lingo is all over the place. I see; USB4, USB4+, USB4 lightning connector. I see the little lightning mark next to it which makes think its thunderbolt lmao. Sorry just shopping for this sucks.
Q: Does this mean that the “USB 4 40 Gbps” support for X670 that was leaked a year or so ago is just the manufacturers slapping Intel Thunderbolt 4 controllers on the motherboards?
Maple ridddgggeeeeee seems like
@@Level1Techs What is the actual deal with the definitely not Thunderbolt *wink wink* ports on these X670 boards? Do they support PCIe passthrough? It seems like Intel is once again delaying or blocking certification on AMD platforms. The nearly identical Z790 Taichi lists TB4 on the feature set and seemingly had no problem getting certification from Intel.... hmmm.
@@NJRoadfanYes, sometime last year Gigabyte screwed up and straight-up stated that Intel had stopped certifying new non-Intel motherboards for Thunderbolt. Petty dick move. But yes, all Thunderbolt features work, you can just install the Thunderbolt drivers directly from Intel’s website.
The I/O on this motherboard seems to be a bit more spase than the offerings from the other manufacturers. Interesting.
The backplate is part of the socket so if your cooler comes with a backplate or tightens from the back you are kinda boned
I REAMMY like MemoryTryIt on..... MSI?
I've got this tiny ITX build in an InWinB1 and a 5600G, i threw in some HP V10 32GB 3600C14-14-14-28 RAM (dual rank B dye) and with that memory try it, it just went right to 4200C14-14-14-28, now it gave it more voltage than it needed, but to get just have a 1 click overclock that gives you an extra 600MT/s without sacrificing timings is just crazy.
And yes, i checked in BIOS and in ZenTimings, this was in 1:1 with gear down disabled
Good news: 32 GB Micron DDR5-4800 ECC Unbuffered DIMMs seem to have hit the market.
Great video!
I was pleasantly surprised to see ASRock put so many rear USB ports on the X670E Steel Legend... but then the Taichi seems to go backwards again. Then I looked at the corresponding Z790 boards and uh... wow, they're embarrassingly bad in most cases. Such a shame that ASRock always skimps on their USB ports (and sometimes other things, like PCIe slots - seriously, no x1 slots is just disappointing).
Maybe, but this board is *the* AM5 board with the most storage options.
Both sata 3 and M.2 NVMe slots.
I think that the idea is that most of those X1 and X2 slot devices should switch to M.2 instead from now on.
What chip and GPU combo would you recommend for gaming and productivity?
Not a fan of the steampunk cog look, probably some meaning behind it but really puts me off. Should not be a factor really but it is for me
Hi Wendell, I was thinking about a proof of concept.
Using a 7700X with 32/64Go of RAM, and xcp-ng. On one side, 6 cores and half the RAM with the main GPU, on the other side, 2 cores, IGP/second GPU(av1?) and an acquisition card for streaming and encoding.
I know you said the iommu is not stable yet, but it's just an idea.
With the horsepower of these cores, I think it will be fine.
What brand of X670E motherboard do you recommend for the Ryzen 9 7950X3D processor? Thank you
I was sold with "block diagram in manual" :DD ... AND maple ridge ctlr ,) tbolt on windows works like on linux ?? What about B650E, same ctlr for USB4? I'm thinking of B650E when it's out and probably 7700x, depends now on how much mobo will cost, or else I'll go just full blown X670E and 7950X and dump HP Z6 G4 now and have gaming and workstation in single system, just waiting till november to see RDNA3 and first PCI-E 5.0 SSDs come out...
Noob question, as of this moment, the latest BIOS update suggests using flashback method, my rig is built do I need to tear down and follow the “flashback” method to update? Or can I leave the rig and and pull the 2 x 8 pin power, then follow “flashback” procedure?
Someone on Reddit had that board and absolutely couldn't get the sticker on the ram off. It left a giant half peeled mess like pulling a sticker off a cardboard box. Any issue with this one?
You cant call the 40gb port Thunderbolt but in the manual, on the drawing of the MB its called TB_1. lol
Suggestion for a review of the ASUS ProArt X670-CREATOR WIFI, the X570 predecessor has become the best AM4 allround platform in my opinion, the X670 seems to also do proper DDR5 ECC.
I've got a ProArt and 64GBs of ECC DDR5 on the way from China, I should have them by next weekend. If thence you're still curious, reply to this and I'll let you know if my RAM worked with it or not.
@@СусаннаСергеевна i can tell you now that I’m curious about this at least until AM6 comes around. Which brand of DDR5 ECC UDIMM were you able to get?
@@abavariannormiepleb9470 They're two kits of paired, unbranded engineering samples. Supposedly Samsung chips, clocked at 4800. They look genuine enough, I'm as curious as you are at this point.
I just bought them to test the board with, I already have 128GB of 5600 non-ECC RAM I'll actually be using on the computer. ECC DDR5 will come with Sapphire Rapids, so soon®™.
@@СусаннаСергеевна Do you mean Sapphire Rapid’s workstation variant? The regular SR just gobbles up the at least available registered ECC memory.
I remain flabbergasted that even with the release of W680 DDR5 motherboards many months ago, still DDR5 ECC UDIMMs have remained elusive unicorns.
@@abavariannormiepleb9470 I mean anything with Sapphire Rapids. It's not out yet, right? I'm just hoping that once the Xeon behemoth gets into DDR5, all forms of that memory will become more readily available.
Only 2 PCIE expansion slots? I remember the time that motherboards actually had 7 expansion slots. Back in the time of ISA, VLB and PCI. This motherboard would not be my pick.
Technically it has 7, it's just that 4 of them are M.2 2080 slots and 1 is a shorty M.2 prepopulated with a wifi card. In general most motherboards these days will have very few standard PCIe slots because a) expansion card usage is going way down, and b) manufacturers are diverting more lanes to the M.2 slots for large capacity NVMe configurations. Tbh I can see where they're coming from, I'm planning an AM4 server build and even coming from a first gen Threadripper with its absurdly large number of PCIe lanes I'm finding M.2 to be more limiting than normal slots, since all I really need is 1-2 GPUs at most, a network card and maybe a HBA, but I'm after multiple M.2 drives for OS and application storage as well as caching.
yeah and this is one of the high end ones. Prepare for the cavalcade of trash x1 slots and a sad x4 from chipset that cheaper boards will have.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 Well, there you go. With just 1 GPU, 1 NIC and 1 HBA, you'd be SOL on this one. Hard nope.
@@burtbalmer I'm talking about a server build though, ASRock isn't building this for servers, even more than other brands since they've got a separate, specific server brand (ASRock Rack). No one's gaming machine needs a HBA or a multi port 10GbE NIC
@@bosstowndynamics5488 I do not game at all. All my machines must have 10 GBE, because they talk to a NAS. I edit video, and I need more than 2 PCI slots..As for gaming machines not needing multi-NIC and 10GBE, I used to have (it died) an Asrock Z390 Phantom Gaming. It had 3 network interfaces, one 10 GBE.
Well that's unfortunate. Big fan of the Taichi line but I'm not buying a board with no x1 or x4 slots.
Two pcie slots...., flagship??
yeah one of the selling features of this chipset is that it guarantees that the motherboard will have two pcie slots from CPU at x8 (if used together) to use for GPUs.
The rest of the pcie lanes are used for NVME M.2 slots
I have 2 Taichis, but I'll pass on this one. I need 10 GBE, and 2 pcie slots is just too limiting
check out der8auer 7000 series delidding direct contact cooling temps its amazing the cooling it makes. from 95c to 55-65c takes special delidder he has created .
What, why is that so large
@@murphy7801 most likely because the IHS in AM5 (the metal plate on top of CPU) is too thick, designed to maintain cooler compatibility.
At least AMD isn't using cheapo white thermal paste between die and IHS like Intel did in the past
@@marcogenovesi8570 I actually kind of wish they used thermal paste. It would make delidding easier and safer, with no need to clean up solder. The IHS is so thick here you'll need to delid if you want to OC and not immediately hit 95C anyway
@@Hypnodog_ You don't need to overclock to hit 95 degrees, that will happen even if your rig is well cooled and running on a stock configuration.
AMD says it's not a problem, so it probably isn't. Intel have been running their laptop CPUs at 110 degrees for years and the only adverse effect there is awful battery life and burned thighs.
If you're planning to delid, I would proceed with caution. Roman managed to break half the processors he attempted the process on, and he's a lot more experienced than you or I. In hindsight, cooler compatibility really isn't worth the thermal effects the tall heat spreader brings with it, especially not when most coolers won't be compatible anyway because they all depend on special backplates. I can only assume AMD did it anyway because they're planning to stack dies really high in the future. Apparently that caused trouble with the 5800X3D.
You forgot the most important part: Do these steam punky gears rotate, when the PC is powered up?
Hi . please tell me how can i connect .5.1 audiosystem to this mother board ? i read manual but cant understand where is 3rd 3,5 jack
** Function of the Audio Ports in 2, 4 or 5.1-channel Configuration:
Channel Port Function
2ch Line Out Jack
(Rear Panel) Front speaker out
4ch Pink-Mic
(Front Panel) Rear speaker out
5.1ch Microphone Input Jack
(Rear Panel) Central/Subwoofer speaker out
Sir, AS for the Ram.. can I do 128gb on this board and will windows support it or recognize it?
ASRock X670E Taichi or MSI ACE? What should I get in your opinion?
@Blue I ended up going with the MSI. Got it with points and they had a promotion including a nvme drive. Ended up paying $550 delivered...
He so funny.
11:35 sure the most important thing is that the board works as it suppose to. But man those "stylish" gears are so cringe inducing...
MB weighing 17 lbs. I think if you went back 10 years 1 lb. would be near the top end.
Hello, I recently finished building my PC,
I have:
7950x3d processor
asrock x670e tai chi wifi motherboard
-the source is 1000w 80 plus platinum
-gpu 7900 xtx 24 gb
-ram g.skill trident z5 32 gb 2x16 6000
mhz
When installing Windows 10
random blue screen,
temperatures are supposed to be fine,
Does anyone know anything about the error beforehand?
thank you
I'm torn between this board and the ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO
I hope you didn’t go asus
@@Y4k407 nope
"Flagship" from ASRock means you get a board that looks good hardware wise, but which YOU CAN NOT USE at full potential, because ASRocks regularly messes up the BIOS. On one version one setting has no function, next version another setting doesn´t work.. it´s ridiculous. But it doesn´t matter, because most reviewers don´t (more like, can´t, I do understand that!) have an in-depth look at their bios settings and if they actually do anything / what they should. Had this with x470 Taichi and x570 Aqua.. i´m done with their "flagships".
Your comment coupled with the show hosts lack of enthusiasm really helped me out. Thank you sir.
I have this board and 7950x3d and 64 gb ram does not work. Can you test that?
are you using 4 slots or 2 slots ?
It took me half a hour to put it togheter on PC Simulator...
14:20 such a weird vibe from this guy
The X670E Pro Art is the same price.
Its a 7.1 solution How? Windows is only showing 2 channel stereo via toslink One line out Jack, gonna have to get via nvidia hdmi. Sucks for a 550 buck board. Running windows 11. Analog 7.1 That sucks.
I lament the loss of the PS/2 port. Now I have to get an adapter to hook up my Model M. For this price and with the obvious space on the rear I/O, just be cool and add the thing.
May I interest you in the level1techs model m adapter pcb? Make your model m native qmk
How many companies do you think that are going to come out with a b650 motherboard for AMD that has the PCI Express 5.0 on the graphics card slot rather than the m.2 slot (unless of course you pay more money then you'll get the m.2 pci-5.0 version which will more than likely be actually fucking useful) you know because video cards are clearly eating up all that bandwidth
All of them will, that slot has sixteen lanes coming directly from the CPU. It would be silly to deliberately shield the traces poorly when you're already forced to ground shield the DDR5 RAM, it wouldn't actually save any money in production.
PCI-e will come out for m.2’s first. The GPUs don’t necessarily need it yet.
I'm more interested in gigabyte x670e aero D
So if you have an older analog 5.1/7.1 setup, you'll need an audio card... hopefully you don't need any other cards, (e.g.: capture) as you're SOL. :-/
Yeah Asrock .....
Had 2 Boards.
An Asrock B350 something - 2 SATA Ports, which always produced errors. After a quick google search, turns out that's a common problem with that model.
Asrock X570 Taichi -> Bios/Boot Problems with various Bios Versions (e.g. the "latest" one for 5800X3D - which STILL is only listed as Beta. Yep, Asrock is lazy and doesn't support their Flagship Boards). Also the Chipset Fan is loud as fuck, and absolutely not nescessary. They slammed TWO(!!!!!) Thermal Pads between the Chipset and the "cooler" ..... i've replaced those pads with copper shims and thermal paste, and the chipset fan doesn't need to turn on anymore. So IF those Idi*** would have actual engineers design their boards, they would have slapped a proper cooling block on the Chipset, instead of going for cool looks, with a "heatsink" that thoes NOTHING to dissapate heat.
NEVER AGAIN ASROCK!
Why are allways so much usb there .... i use only most likley 4 ... what a waste of resources.
this is a $500 board, if they don't fill up that panel, people will complain.
Desperately trying to hide that their flagship workstation board doesn't have 10GbE.
I don't like the chipset CPU link config, and in fact I'm going to skip these boards because of. X570 already gives the same speed through the link. I want to see that speed double before I buy another system. I don't need 50 USB ports but I run NVMe through the chipset, and there are times I can be using both NVMe and USB ports and I just don't like that daisy chain config.
I want to see two chipsets, each with a gen5 link which will distribute heat when you're using multiple devices at the same time.
The problem is NVMe are going to get faster and start exceeding gen4 X4. What if you want to RAID them? And don't tell me about how this isn't good, it's my system. You CAN RAID NVMe, but you can't get the performance of RAIDing them when 3 NVMe ports run through an 8Gbps link unless they're older NVMe drives.
Then dont run them through the chipset on x570
Im watching this video on my B550 Taichi and its A FCKING JOKE what they wanna sell me at X670E as "Taichi".
WHY ARE THERE ONLY TWO EXPANSION SLOTS?!?!?!
Where i am supposed to put in my fcking Soundcard and the 10 Gbit network card in on this FCKING 500€ board?!
And they just did it with X870E again ... whats the point with two expansion slots?
More pcie maps please.
These ASRock Boards look cheesy compaired to ASUS, it's the gears on the MB that do nothing but take up space.
@Blue Then they need to say something else. Gears denote analog not digital.
@@NeoDon1Well you can also have the over the top Asus branding plastering obnoxious logos, lighting and random phrases across the entire board if you prefer that. I don't love the Taichi esthetics but I appreciate a simpler approach without all the self-aggrandizing. The Carrera does look pretty good for those who like white.
Bifurcation?
It's when you split hairs.
If a $500 board doesn’t have PCIE bifurcation, it needs to go in the trash. I doubt this doesn’t.
Woot!
No ipmi? 🤷🏽♂️
it's not a server board
This is super disappointing for AMD's first foray into 5nm. Just look at what Apple did at 5nm.
My car could use that heatsink.