As German I have to add that there is actually something freeing about acknowledging the mistakes of the past and doing something about it. Some people might think that Germans burden their youth with the acknowledgment of the dark history, but in reality they are working on lessening a burden which would be there anyway. There is no need to get defensive about what our ancestors did anymore, because we can live in the security that the generations which followed strived to turn Germany into a better country. One in which the protection of human dignity stands above everything else.
This is why removing portraits, statues and monuments of OUR history is the way that the transgressors avoid criticism. Leave them up, but identify their evil as a reminder of the potential.
What's even more shocking is that this quote “Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.” ― Edmund Burke, Born in Dublin, Ireland January 12, 1729 Died July 09, 1797 , his Genres as an author - Politics, Aesthetics, Philosophy - and nearly 220 to 250 years later, with all the accelerated speed and accessibility of/to information, the same sh*t is still going on and happening again.
I lived in Germany between 89 and 93 during a very important in modern German history. This video captures one very important aspect of the country and its people and why I admire them so very much. Yes, we could learn much from them.
Yeah they did well but today there is a strong trend towards the (politically) far right - just like almost everywhere in Europe - seems like history repeats itself in slow motion.
@@ahab6969 Nice try, but I suggest you stay with the facts: www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/germany/ The far right AfD has 10% on average (so much about your strong trend ... 10% too many though for sure) and 90% of all citizens and all parties vowed to never work with these nut cases - NEVER. Not even a mayor will accept to be voted into office if the majority was enabled by and with the votes of the AfD. We do not want any of these nut cases anywhere near power ... period!
@@ahab6969 Not at all. The far rightwing is just about to get under 10% of all votes. And now compare it with - for example - Hungary, Poland, France, Austria, italy .........
Although a Michael Moore fan, I never heard of "Where To Invade Next". Its now at the top of my list, as this is the most powerful 3 1/2 minutes I've ever seen Moore produce!
@Chaz Buchan Not sure about that - some US "intellectuals" like E. Hemingway were involved it the Spanish Civil War - as was Ezra Pound in the fascist uprising in Italy.
Acknowledging our dark side, as Carl Jung said, and remembering that we have it in us to do harm if we choose, will help us manage it in a way that makes life better for everyone. The Germans are an example of what we can become, both in the past and in the present.
Carl Jung was a satan worshipping pagan who denied that the Nazi menace was happening. Adolf Hitler was the embodiment of Jung's thinking , that good and evil should not be opposites and enemies...they should be unified in an overarching whole.
Thank You for reminding us of what Jung said. He established empirically the reality and polarity of our psyche. He would say to know how much good and evil we're capable of. The serpent on the tree in Genesis said as much. Eve was very brave. In Kabbalah, the Star of David is symbolic of God in union with the Above and Below representing our duality, but also God's, as well as our opposition to one another. (Ego and Archetype by Edward Edinger, an elaboration of God and Man as seen in dreams)
I don't think people should apologise for things their relations did before they were born, or for things that occurred on the same piece of rock they happen to live on. Today's generation weren't personally responsible. I'm British and members of my family died in the two wars against Germany, millions and millions of my countrymen died - so many in fact that there is barely one family in Britain who didn't lose someone, yet I would not expect modern day Germans to apologise to me, nor would I dislike a modern day German, for what happened - because they weren't alive when it occurred so it is not their fault. I would shake the hand of a German person and be glad to see them - I'd have a beer in a bar with one and I would be friendly, just like I would if it were a person from any other country.
It's not about apologising or feeling personally guilty. It's about learning the facts and circumstances of those past atrocities, and drawing the consequences so that something like this does not happen again in one's own present. It's about dealing responsibly with the history of your people. That is what I learned from growing up in Germany and being confronted with memorial sites, countless historical documentaries on TV, eyewitness accounts of victims and the mandatory curriculum about the 3rd Reich and the Holocaust over several school years since my early youth. This willingness to continuously deal with your own dark history and to try to reconcile with the victims is one of the few reasons why I am proud of my country. For the fact that these efforts to collectively take ownership and responsibility have not been adopted by other countries who have committed similar crimes in their past, shows that this is not an easy path to take. - Greetings from Germany
@@kimvinly221 I bought it in my AppleTV. The part about the French food for school kids literally had me tearing up, and I am a tough old man and the descent of the USA just makes me sick.
@@justgivemethetruth thank you, I am not intimidated. I am also a Veteran. I'm American by birth. Proud by choice. And you know why? Because I honestly believe that this country works on getting it right. Correct itself. It does get tired having to defend my nationality
I have spent my adulthood re-educating myself about the country I live in; The fascism, classism, the effects of capitalism, mysogeny, all the -isms. My public education was an abominable indoctrination. Thank you for speaking truth to power!
What this doesn't mention is how many German teenagers in the 60's would learn about this in school for the first time. Their parents never even mentioned it to them before and didn't want to discuss it after "Ich Habe Es Nicht Gewust" Nonsense! My country (The Netherlands) was occupied by the Nazis for 5 years. But my parent's generation hasn't learned a thing from it. In spite all the museums, books, documentaries,etc. Just as in Germany and many other countries in the world (absolutely not excluding Israel) my country is becoming more and more fascist and right wing. To the point where the AIVD (our FBI) has recently officially declared the alt-right in my country to be a very potential terrorist threat. And unfortunately it was about time they did. I was already some 30 years ahead of them
You´re right, we learned it in the 60s - mostly because our parents were either brainwashed or they were in the war and didn´t want to talk about it. But they couldn´t prevent us to find out what happened. I´m sorry that your country was invaded by Germany, really sorry. But in the end I guess we both became pretty good neighbors.
Wonderfull doc. It made me cry, really. I´m European (Catalan to be precise, and with a lot of problems with our central govermen). As a resoult I never travel to the res of the country (I get insulted by my acccent) I trevel north, to France, GB, Italy etc.. I know what racism is. Even do that we all are from the same colour.....
Thinking about Palestine while watching this and how Israel uses this to justify their own genocidal agenda. This hit me so hard. So many countries exist in the western world because of slavery and colonialism. We have to remember, we have to keep fighting. We have to do better.
As far as I can remember in the 70’s and 80’s, American public schools (middle schools and high schools) would teach about the civil war, the emancipation proclamation, Jim Crow laws, the Civil Rights Movement, Voting Rights Act of 1965, Plessy v Ferguson, Brown v Board of Education., Rosa Parks, etc. 12 Years a Slave by Soloman Northup was required reading in my English class in college in the early 90’s. I’ve always remembered all the pictures of signs that supported racial discrimination “colored drinking fountains,” “public swimming pool whites only,” “colored seated in rear,” “No dogs or Mexicans allowed.” As far as I know, since the early 70’s our public schools have taught us what our predecessors did. Nobody’s whitewashed anything nor do we pretend this never happened. I’ve also been told by Hispanic men who are now in their 70’s how Latinos were treated in Texas back in the 60’s and 70’s. I also remember how Bruce Lee couldn’t be cast in the TV series Kung Fu because he was Asian (funny given that Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco) because of Hollywood’s bigotry. It’s amazing how racial discrimination was so prevalent and was enforced by society, government and businesses. But it’s also amazing how far we’ve come and how we’ve changed as a country. My friends and family have enjoyed the freedoms and the opportunities this country has given us since we came to the U.S. We love this country and are saddened by how our politicians (on both sides) and the media have turned us against each other. We must never forget what we were so we don’t repeat the past. We shouldn’t instill in people guilt and shame for what previous generations did. Nor should we promote divisions among us because of the color of our skins or where we come from.
I wish you were right but unfortunately there are a lot of people here in Germany who already forgot what happened and the want "the old times" back. We can only hope that the majority rememers enaugh to take political influence and stay strong against racism.
Have been to Germany and of all the artefacts, museums, memorials the Holocaust Memorial you showed (the blocks just behind Brandenburg Gates) is amazing, simply amazingly beautiful. Checkpoint Charlie is something to see too. We have relatives living in Germany and they simply adore the country and the people - and these relatives are/were ‘survivors’....
My uncle who is German and whose father was a nazi soldier was shocked that i hadn't seen the Shindlers List. so he made me watch it with him. he said it was probably the 10th time that hes seeing that movie. And it was interesting how different our reactions to the movie were. i was just shocked and i didnt wanna talk about that movie for days after we watched it. but he was angry and he was proud to be angry at what his ancestors did. he was talking realy loudly about it and he was cursing in german. I think it made him mad that its a part of his history. its his family's history. and that makes him enraged. now, about 15 years later i live in America. and i haven't met anyone that feels about the slavery or about the Native American genocides the way that my uncle felt about the holocaust. nobody is mad about what has happened here. some people acknowledge that their ancestors did horrible things but they often just offer an excuse like saying those were different times. and they didnt know better. and everyone else had slaves and was killing indians so it was normal in those days. they say in those days if you wanted to be successful in the south you had to own slaves. nobody cares really.
This is one of your best, Michael! I've lived in Germany for a while, and yes, it is difficult to watch the kids the week they start learning about the Holocaust, even if they've lived their whole lives around these little reminders on the sidewalks. The beginning of healing is rarely nice to watch. The US, and Canada (I'm in Québec) must learn from this German memorandum. And fast: the violence endured by First Peoples and People of colour is enough already! Then, something should be done in reparation for all the death the US, and Canada, have caused.
Germany had the Nuremberg Trials. South Africa had the Truth and Reconciliation Committee. America has the Black Lives Matter protests. Dnt give up now until you have real change!
We Americans could finally begin a healing process in our nation - if only we could manage to show the same courage in first acknowledging our own history with this same type of honesty and clarity. Instead we'd prefer to babble on endlessly about "family values" on the right, or whether we should have "gender specific bathrooms" on the left, but never, under any conditions, right or left, blue or red, do we Americans want to face "reality." We're always ready and willing to blame and vilify someone else, rather than to look in the mirror.
MM I came looking for you thinking you knew what was happening, but you don't, or maybe I'm wrong. But I know you're next big docu is going to be big, if you really look into what is really happening. You've always been an inspiration to me. I believe in you, so get to work.
You are not speaking the truth. I bet 95 % if not more of all americans would admit without a moment of hesitation that slavery is and was a bad thing. Don't always try to sh*t on your nation.
I still don’t see the rightfulness in people being made to atone for the wrongdoings of their ancestors. This is not reparation; it’s punishing people for a crime they didn’t commit. There’s nothing wrong with remembering. It’s passing blame to innocent youth that’s wrong.
And that's what separates the left from the right. Lefties always know how to appeal to the emotions and...avoid the facts. All they had to do to convince people that climate change was real was to show one single starving fluffy cute polar bear cub...and people believed the LIE. This is what Hitler said "The bigger the lie , the more people will believe it".
@@markanthony3275 I'm not a lefty and you're saying nothing of importance. If you find it hard to understand why a black person would be hurt by the many years if mistreatment and violence towards their people you're actively avoiding reality and lack sensibility and empathy. Nothing in this video was a lie. It's all based on historical facts and how one Country chose not to avoid the horrific choices of the past by teaching accurate history and how one Country chooses not to. You can either stay on topic, speak on facts or just continue to rant and rave, speaking in empty sayings that don't relate to any issue brought up.
@@nevermore464 HORSEPUCKY ! My mom's side of the family was tortured and almost starved to death by Josef Stalin because they were Kulaks...the class of people who Stalin decided needed to be eliminated entirely...20 million Kulaks were starved, tortured, and murdered. Stalin admitted he did this to Winston Churchill when Churchill accused him of killing ten million..."No" Stalin said, "It was 20 million". Members of my family had to dig up cattails from swamps and eat those to survive. My dad's side of the family lived in Poland...and some of them met their end at the hands of Adolf Hitler...so don't waste your time lecturing me about how hard black people have it...they live in the greatest country in the world and they should all shut up...stop engaging in rampant promiscuity, start fathering their children and STOP committing crime !
I love A People's History. The book Age of Betrayal by Jack Beatty affirms the corporate control of our country that Congress and the US Supreme Court allowed during the Gilded Age. And now, the rich keep getting richer while the majority of us are struggling. History shows what happens when the working and middle classes aren't shored up as President Biden tried to do. We are the legs that every nation stands on. Hopefully we'll get more seats in the Senate and Congress in 2022 and 2024.
As a German, I learned as a child what my ancestors did. And it was fine like that. Our schools convey the value of life. It should be like this everywhere. But this role model also has a shadow side. Political camps are formed which want to assign permanent guilt to the Germans. So we don't have the chance to develop further. We cannot learn from our mistakes. We should be forced to remain guilty forever. Unfortunately, there is no use in understanding your story if you are prevented from processing it. I know the history of my country, but I also want to be proud of being a German. There are so many things that we have given the world. such as letterpress. When I say I am proud to be German and what our ancestors have created, from reformation, to cars or X-rays, ... then I am insulted in this country as a Nazi. That is the price we have to pay as Germans. We are deprived of the freedom to be proud of our ancestors. If you are proud of some of our long Germanic history, you are always a Nazi. This story should also be told once.
Arminius was kidnapped as a child by Rome and trained in their culture. He along with the other kidnapped Germanic children always held on to their Germanic identity. Hold fast. Never feel guilt for your Germanic heritage. Never forget the lesson of Teutoburg Forest.
I am an American born in Germany to two American parents, about 20 years after WWII. All during my childhood, school and watching TV and Movies I heard the history of this country and had always felt we were getting better, progressing. Now, I don't feel this way at all, and I've even gone so far as to wondering what my legal status would be in Germany - because never in my life until the last decade or two did I ever think Germany would be a better national role model than my America? What I see in my country now every day when I wake up nauseates me. If anyone is German or knows the immigration system can tell me if it is possible to have dual citizenship with Germany - please let me know, or how to find out?
Usually dual citizenship is only possible for EU citizens but there are a few exceptions. With Americans, it depends. If you are a German who happens to be born in the US and/or has one American parent it is possible, but otherwise it is harder. Normally I would recommend you to go to the Ausländerbehörde and ask yourself if it is possible for your specific circumstances and what you have to do to obtain it, but if I understand you correctly, you have never lived in Germany for a longer time, you just happened to be born over here, right? In this case I can answer your question: You have no right to a German citizenship just by the virtue of having been born in the country. German citizenship is mostly ruled by blood-line. Children born in Germany only obtain the citizenship if they are born to parents who have lived at least 8 years legally in the country and grew up here (it is basically a provision which makes it easier for children of guest workers and immigrants to obtain legal status). Unless your ancestors lost their German citizenships under the Nazi regime. In this case you can restore it.
it seems like you have no legal claim to german citizenship right now; i know a few people in their 30s who do have both, but they all have one american and one german parent; works the same way for GB. and a german can be naturalized to another EU country. there's no other way to be a german dual citizen as an adult (anymore). but it's relatively easy for us citizens to permanently move to germany, probably easier than for any other non-schengen non-eu country except GB. i don't think you being born here helps with citizenship at all, though, unless you learned german as a child and retained it.
This is why its so daft to destroy confederate monuments those that deny and or destroy or try to hide inconvenient truths such as history are bound to repeat it or relive it over and over. Remembering can teach all sides from all perspectives some Lessons. Lets learn from our Grand parents mistakes so that we never forget them
Those statues/monuments where built to intimidate African Americans. And no one learns history from a statue, and if you do find out about the statue, you do it once, but you have to see it in the town square or the city hall every day. I support getting rid of all these historical monuments and putting them in museums where their context can be taught at the appropriate time and place.
Take it from a German: Those statues have nothing to do with preserving history, they are all about distorting it. If you are so concerned about history, you should advocate for melting them down in order to turn them into memorials to the victims of Slavery, native American genocide, Racism, the Civil war and all the other nonsense the US has been up to.
how about the multi billion dollar business and growing of child smuggling etc..........that is dispicable and happening under our noses. take a look at that.
Michael, Thank you for this composition. As a person of Christian, Jewish & Animist heritage, this ownership of 'exogenous' (Latin 'other-generated') war & genocide complicity must come to Zionists & Jewish peoples as well. We are not just the perpetual victims but the active purveyors of genocide including against the German people. Individuals may seem to be apart, but when one considers the trickledown oligarch networks, we are part of & often dependent or addicted to, we must acknowledge our submission or participation in 'corporate' (L 'body') leadership role in war & genocide. Through 7000s years, since leaving the destroyed Babylon empire of that time, our finance-media-religion-education-military-industrial-legislative-judicial-complex has been atrociously destructive of 'indigenous' (L 'self-generating') people & biosphere. We're complicit in the colonial genocide of: over 100 million people in the Americas, 200 million people in Africa (including slavery), 100 million dead in the east, 100 million dead in the far-east & Australia, many 10s of millions of dead in the last 30 years of destabilization of the Middle-east & North-Africa. Presently we're self-justifying genocide of Palestinians with invasion & occupation of Palestine. Yes never-again, by anyone. For those wishing to dis-indoctrinate, de-propagandize their minds, visit www.indigenecommunity.info to find out about your & all humanity's worldwide indigenous heritage of peace & prosperity for many 10s of 1000s of years of contributing to collective humanity & the life of the biosphere.
My dad is German and went back to visit years ago. And someone brought up WW2 and my dad as a joke quickly threw up a Nazi salute. And a relative quickly stopped him from extending his arm. 😄 And my dad found out it’s literally illegal to display any Nazi symbols in Germany, so it can’t happen. Doesn’t fly like that in America. You can out the confederate flag on your car if you want.
Should we bend our knee to another human being and kiss their feet? NO!!! Together we must bend our knees to our Creator and only then we will receive salvation, freedom and prosperity.
the germans where forced to look and acknowledge straight after ww2 it makes it harder every day when you need to answer the question "what took you so long"
The clip concentrates on the current situation. For my parents generation, history lessons at school ended after World War I. That was in the 70s. Around the year 2000 we leaned quite intensively what happened at the time. Many young people here don't know much about the regime and the war, despite learning about it at school. I'm afraid they don't care anymore. Not all of course, but there is a trend. Right-wingers bending history as they please face uneducated youngsters manipulating them easily. Again, only the uneducated ones. Great clip Michael, you have a point!
Communist great...that's what the end decision will be. Only it goes by a different name now..."Communitarianism". That's where you will be required to make certain sacrifices "for the "good of the community". You will agree to be silenced. You will agree to give up personal rights and freedoms. You will agree to give up your property to the state. You will agree that the capitalist economic system is evil and should be destroyed. You will agree that democracy must be abolished because it allows people to freely choose someone who will be against giving everything up (like President Trump for example) . You will agree to abolish your sovereign nation and let a global government tell you how you should live, act and think. And...you will agree to take on your body a mark that shows your willingness to believe in the system and that you are property of the state. You'll be told all along that you are giving these things up for the "good of the community"...and then you will find out too late that the "community " is big tech and government...and doesn't include YOU. If you really want a glimpse of the future, learn everything there is to know about German history from the period of 1870 to 1945...because in the same way that a mass delusion fell over the German people who worshipped Hitler as their saviour...the same mass delusion is falling on people right now...and another Hitler is about to appear shortly.
Hitler and the 3rd Reich lasted only a few years, it was a horrible tragedy. we kept slavery and hatred alive for almost 400 years, until it was a part of the culture, that is a big part of the reason it is so hard to overcome. It is very sad, but almost seems normal. Most of the time anymore, I am ashamed to be an American, and it used to be my identity.
This must be new because 25 years ago I knew a German who moved to America and Never knew about the history of what happened until he moved here. That is dangerous.
This person was not very intelligent. I am 59 years old and from the 8th to the 13th class our history lessons consisted only of the time from 1900 to 1950. That Germany also had a history that its inhabitants could be proud of was hardly known to me.
Unless the German grew up in the 1950s, that is extremely unlikely. Our "student demonstrations" in the late 1960s/early 1970s were for a huge chunk about dealing with that part of our history. Which lead to huge reforms in our school system and what is known as "Erinnerungskultur" (Remembrance culture) and "Vergangenheitsbewältigung" (Dealing with the past).
Having lived under trump’s * illegitimate reign, I certainly have more empathy for the innocent people who lived in Germany during Hitler’s regime. Most of them , who understood what was actually going on were appalled, as we are. I still believe that most people are good. Thanks for this moving, thought provoking message. Take care & God bless everyone, everywhere!🙏🏻🇺🇸🙏🏻🌎🙏🏻🌏🙏🏻💕👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
As a German i had to correct two things in your last movies, first in the movie above children are not learned every day but with a conscience ripe in the age of 15 to 16 understanding the reasons why a democracy can flip, why Hitler has an easy game to come in power and why its important to stand up against racism. The reasons are for example: unfair compensation payments the Germany has to pay the the allies of World War 1, having an unstable parliament in the Weimar Republic, big unemployment numbers before Hitler came in power etc. The Second correction i want to make is that the film about renewable energies you had a misinformation that Germany only has 2% of his energy consumption with renewable energies but when you only have a look on electricity the numbers are for the 47,3% and rising.
He didn't say every child every day. In every school every day means some kids are tought that. And you confused electric power with primary power (including oil and gas for heating, coal for industrial processes and so on...).
As a German I feel the need to point out that my schools trained me early on to recognize demagogues for what they are. It started out small in primary school with lessons about how advertising messaging worked, and then continued in lessons about rhetoric and questionable philosophies in the tender age of 11 and 12. But the time I was 15, I was already long in the phase in which a lot of pupils get sick of learning about it.
I think I'm right in saying that America gave a lot of money to Germany to keep it afloat in the years following World War 1, but when the Wall Street crash, the big recession of 1926, occurred in the USA there was no money anymore for the Americans to give. This caused a huge recession in Germany in the late-1920's and 1930's which fueled a rise in nationalism and meant the people were looking for a leader that could give them hope. They thought Hitler was the answer, the people weren't aware in the early days of his evil plans, they supported him however as he promised a job for everyone, a home for everyone, even a cheap car (the Volkswagen Beatle) for each person, and money in people's pockets that they could spend on leisure. As far as I know Hitler's plans of genocide weren't known to the German people in the early years of him being in power. You can trace many of the reasons for Germany's problems in the 1920's and 30's to the Treaty Of Versailles in 1918, it made the country have to pay so much money to its opponents from World War 1 - particularly France - that Germany really struggled financially, as you say in your comment.
Yes, don't deny the crimes and sins of the past. Also raise the question, how MUCH should we focus on our crimes and sins until it actually becomes pathological and unhealthy and who decides that? I certainly wouldn't want to walk around in that state of mind. I wouldn't be able to function or do much at all.
We can be partly pregnant. We can't do it partly. You are either in it for the right reason or you are out, personally I am in it for the whole good change.
If only.....I am born and raised in Germany. Now that i am over 50 Years living in Germany, i have to tell you, that remembering alone is only one step. There are far to many germans, who deny the history. Even with our culture of remembering they dare to disagree. Ok, probably only about 10% of us. But that are 10% to much. And its an ongoing task to diskuss this topic, it drains energy, it makes me loose hope, when even within people near me i find positions far to right to accept as a democratic flavour. Then i look over to you. How hard must it be to fight against hate, crime, racicm, fashicm without a broad culture of remembering. And i believe to see (or i hope to see) some progress over there and here. These are the moments i hope that my joke "that the only thing we ever learned from history, is that we never learn from history" is nothing but a joke
The problem is that most people learn from the horrors of the right-wing socialism that they have to be left-wing socialists and so they are right on track to start the next tyranny.
There is no good reason to not start teaching truth about our terrible past. WE have to acknowledge our historical past and make a pact to not forget AND to change for the better now. We can be proud to be a part of the solution. I am a part of the solution. I want public signage to Tell of our past shameful deeds to prevent them from happening again.
The racism in America has been going on for too long on so many levels. People must learn solidarity, that paying taxes and using it for health, a good environment and education is good and leads to equality.
and the scariest thing is that *even* with all this culture of rememberance there is still a portion of our (German) population that doesn't seem to draw the apparent conclusion from it. so one could only imagine how much worse it might be if there wasn't this culture.
In our country, basic education has gotten rid of History classes. Now, we are on the brink of bringing back the family of the late dictator who once tortured our nation.
Pretty much Jungian Psychology here, of The Shadow. If you refuse to face your dark side, in this case your dark history, its impulses will run the show without you noticing it is.
@@justgivemethetruth Well, certainly no corporate fascist, military-industrial complex, raining death on poor people in other countries, should be the leadership country. That leaves out the US - murder, death and blight Inc., spending as much on militarism as the next ten countries combined, and leaving its own citizens impoverished. Won't even provide health care, which every other developed country does. My vote for the leadership country would be Bhutan.
Not only that, but most of the rest of the world despises America at this point, for good reasons. The number one rogue nation, without accountability.
Michael your timely work of self-criticism within critical practices has been spot on, and I admire your courage to go on despite so much denial in our society. In that spirit of self-criticism, I ask you: please don’t use (and please help to get others to stop using) the qualifier “dark” as a metaphor for evil. Language is never neutral, and you know how evil its effects are. I know your intention is the opposite but every time that metaphor gets used it also reproduces racism even when that is not the intention driving its use. Thank you for who you are, and for showing the way when it can only be the hard way. Much love!
How does the word "dark" reproduce racism as you claim? Isn't this a mythical, philosophical and biblical term for evil? It's how the Taoists describe the Yang principle. It's not intended to be pejorative of one's race. Couldn't that clarification be made as needed, defining the collective evil that pertains to all of us? Even President Obama described "dark forces" of the GOP that have grown darker since. Do we need to have Star Wars edit out the word dark? Or can we trust that most people know it's not racial? Seriously, if someone feels stigmatized, can't it be explained that it's not a racial reference, that it's the evil in us all? What word do you believe that we and the whole of academia should use? As it is, Michael is repeating the words of the prophets.
I am german, (west) germany was never denazified, there were nazis in parliament from the very beginning, and liberals just feel guilty but _don't understand *why* _ this happned (the answer is nationalism thrives under capitlism in crisis) and therefore dont recognize why the very same rethoric is starting to appear again, aimed at muslims/arab-coded people this time now with the genocide in gaza, liberals and even supposedly leftists are talking about "importet antisemitism" from people against genocide IMPORTED ANTISEMITISM IN GERMANY??? they are trying to absolve themselves of their guilt and push it onto arabs. This week I heard a FDP politician (free market liberals) say that the holocaust has nothing to do with christianity bc of some christian rebels like Bonhoeffer, nevermind that like 99% of nazis were christian (Himmler & his esotherics were a tiny minority) and not 5 mins later he talked about the "islamic SS battalion" and the grand mufti of jerusalem Or in novmber, when mainstream media were talking about attacks by arab immigrants aginst jews in Amsterdam, when actually it was clashes between dutch and israeli football hooligans, and drew pralells to Reichspogromnacht (crystl night), therefore massively downplaying the latter, ON ITS ANNIVERSARY That is holocaust revisionism by members of mainstream german parties and mainstream media and no one bats an eye
Well, it's not taught all the time, but schools make it quite sure you at least had heard once about it in school. Unfortunately for some people the lesson is not forever learned. And we have some structures in our society where you have to be very careful to to establish things that make things worse. You need police, you need an army, but you and especially the members of police and army must never forget, what their task is, and for whom they work, for the people, most of the people at the police and the army knows this. Yes there are some who cause trouble, and they have to be removed from this kind of duty. Keeping up this discussion is part of our democracy, sometimes we fail, but most of the times we succeed, there is always room for improvement.
So true, that's what me and my indigenous people also the colored Americans try to say. Nothing is gonna get better because you haven't started your healing journeys. Acknowledge the hurt and use that to make a change.
As German I have to add that there is actually something freeing about acknowledging the mistakes of the past and doing something about it. Some people might think that Germans burden their youth with the acknowledgment of the dark history, but in reality they are working on lessening a burden which would be there anyway. There is no need to get defensive about what our ancestors did anymore, because we can live in the security that the generations which followed strived to turn Germany into a better country. One in which the protection of human dignity stands above everything else.
As long as the human in question stands on the right (=left) side of the political aisle. Otherwise there is no dignity for you.
I respect your country so much.
If you don't learn from your history then you are doomed to repeat it.
And here we are, again! We have to break the cycle. 😉✌❤
This is why removing portraits, statues and monuments of OUR history is the way that the transgressors avoid criticism. Leave them up, but identify their evil as a reminder of the potential.
Now its the other way around !
What's even more shocking is that this quote “Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.”
― Edmund Burke, Born in Dublin, Ireland January 12, 1729
Died July 09, 1797
, his Genres as an author - Politics, Aesthetics, Philosophy - and nearly 220 to 250 years later, with all the accelerated speed and accessibility of/to information, the same sh*t is still going on and happening again.
And if jou don't learn both sides of history then you're playing dumb.
Bitchute - Europa The Last Battle.
Not for the faint harted.
I lived in Germany between 89 and 93 during a very important in modern German history. This video captures one very important aspect of the country and its people and why I admire them so very much. Yes, we could learn much from them.
Yeah they did well but today there is a strong trend towards the (politically) far right - just like almost everywhere in Europe - seems like history repeats itself in slow motion.
@@ahab6969 Nice try, but I suggest you stay with the facts: www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/germany/ The far right AfD has 10% on average (so much about your strong trend ... 10% too many though for sure) and 90% of all citizens and all parties vowed to never work with these nut cases - NEVER. Not even a mayor will accept to be voted into office if the majority was enabled by and with the votes of the AfD. We do not want any of these nut cases anywhere near power ... period!
@@ahab6969
Not at all. The far rightwing is just about to get under 10% of all votes. And now compare it with - for example - Hungary, Poland, France, Austria, italy .........
My cousin, and a Chinese friend living there now, great German friends, also!
@@BlissLovePeace Yes we (German) have a problem here. To quote my mother (born 1929): "Here they are again - I'm afraid !"
Although a Michael Moore fan, I never heard of "Where To Invade Next". Its now at the top of my list, as this is the most powerful 3 1/2 minutes I've ever seen Moore produce!
@Don, You should watch the whole movie. Ppl in Tunisia are more informed than the followers of dashians!
Thanks for posting this Michael. More people need to see this and learn something.
The whole movie is good. The big twist is that the great ideas implemented in other countries often actually reflected ideas we had here.
Dear Michael, thank you for this exquisite expression of our path forward as a country, and global, people.
The fact that these kids speak better English than many of our own children speaks to how the US is becoming so second rate, it's a disgrace.
They don't want you to know your past because if you do, they can't control you!
If you want to truly BE RICH, READ BOOKS...
@Chaz Buchan Not sure about that - some US "intellectuals" like E. Hemingway were involved it the Spanish Civil War - as was Ezra Pound in the fascist uprising in Italy.
Yeah that's why the Democrats are erasing history right now...
@Chaz Buchan do you think that the facsist Democrats wouldn't exist now ?
Absolutely true. Read print journalism. I hope soon the white supremist in the White House is gone.
Even if it's a short film, you're the best filmmaker in the world. Thank you Mr. Moore!
Acknowledging our dark side, as Carl Jung said, and remembering that we have it in us to do harm if we choose, will help us manage it in a way that makes life better for everyone. The Germans are an example of what we can become, both in the past and in the present.
Carl Jung was a satan worshipping pagan who denied that the Nazi menace was happening. Adolf Hitler was the embodiment of Jung's thinking , that good and evil should not be opposites and enemies...they should be unified in an overarching whole.
Thank You for reminding us of what Jung said. He established empirically the reality and polarity of our psyche. He would say to know how much good and evil we're capable of. The serpent on the tree in Genesis said as much. Eve was very brave.
In Kabbalah, the Star of David is symbolic of God in union with the Above and Below representing our duality, but also God's, as well as our opposition to one another. (Ego and Archetype by Edward Edinger, an elaboration of God and Man as seen in dreams)
Thank you for making this...I have been screaming about this as an American in Germany.
As an atheist of Muslim background Hopefully my civilization would do the same critical thinking and judge the past and present some day.
I don't think people should apologise for things their relations did before they were born, or for things that occurred on the same piece of rock they happen to live on. Today's generation weren't personally responsible. I'm British and members of my family died in the two wars against Germany, millions and millions of my countrymen died - so many in fact that there is barely one family in Britain who didn't lose someone, yet I would not expect modern day Germans to apologise to me, nor would I dislike a modern day German, for what happened - because they weren't alive when it occurred so it is not their fault. I would shake the hand of a German person and be glad to see them - I'd have a beer in a bar with one and I would be friendly, just like I would if it were a person from any other country.
It's not about apologising or feeling personally guilty. It's about learning the facts and circumstances of those past atrocities, and drawing the consequences so that something like this does not happen again in one's own present. It's about dealing responsibly with the history of your people. That is what I learned from growing up in Germany and being confronted with memorial sites, countless historical documentaries on TV, eyewitness accounts of victims and the mandatory curriculum about the 3rd Reich and the Holocaust over several school years since my early youth. This willingness to continuously deal with your own dark history and to try to reconcile with the victims is one of the few reasons why I am proud of my country. For the fact that these efforts to collectively take ownership and responsibility have not been adopted by other countries who have committed similar crimes in their past, shows that this is not an easy path to take. - Greetings from Germany
My faves ... the extended versions with extra content: ( in no particular order )
- SickO
- Capitalism: A Love Story
- Where To Invade Next
I loved this movie ... and this part was one of the best parts. Thank you Michael.
I have rest in my playlist
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I bought it in my AppleTV. The part about the French food for school kids literally had me tearing up, and I am a tough old man and the descent of the USA just makes me sick.
@@justgivemethetruth Me too and that is for every school.
I have capitalism on my playlist as well.
What movie is it?
@@kimvinly221 what movie is it?
I am an American. I was born in a country that has never accepted me as a native.
A lot of us do .... don't be intimidated by these loud voices and cold tones ... those people are on their way out. ( I hope )
@@justgivemethetruth thank you, I am not intimidated. I am also a Veteran. I'm American by birth. Proud by choice. And you know why? Because I honestly believe that this country works on getting it right. Correct itself. It does get tired having to defend my nationality
I accept you as a beloved human being! And if you are watching this video and appreciating the message, you are also an extraordinary sister!
What do you mean by "not accepted as a native"? Isn't it enough to be accepted as an American? What's the point in all this division?
@@wbaumschlager native as in the adjective not as part of the noun Native American.
I have spent my adulthood re-educating myself about the country I live in; The fascism, classism, the effects of capitalism, mysogeny, all the -isms. My public education was an abominable indoctrination. Thank you for speaking truth to power!
In other words...you brainwashed yourself.
You are a remarkable man. Thanks for so many real and honest movies videos and podcast.
Acceptance is the 1st step towards making the Change.
What this doesn't mention is how many German teenagers in the 60's would learn about this in school for the first time. Their parents never even mentioned it to them before and didn't want to discuss it after
"Ich Habe Es Nicht Gewust"
Nonsense!
My country (The Netherlands) was occupied by the Nazis for 5 years. But my parent's generation hasn't learned a thing from it. In spite all the museums, books, documentaries,etc.
Just as in Germany and many other countries in the world (absolutely not excluding Israel) my country is becoming more and more fascist and right wing. To the point where the AIVD (our FBI) has recently officially declared the alt-right in my country to be a very potential terrorist threat. And unfortunately it was about time they did. I was already some 30 years ahead of them
You´re right, we learned it in the 60s - mostly because our parents were either brainwashed or they were in the war and didn´t want to talk about it. But they couldn´t prevent us to find out what happened.
I´m sorry that your country was invaded by Germany, really sorry. But in the end I guess we both became pretty good neighbors.
Wonderfull doc. It made me cry, really. I´m European (Catalan to be precise, and with a lot of problems with our central govermen). As a resoult I never travel to the res of the country (I get insulted by my acccent) I trevel north, to France, GB, Italy etc..
I know what racism is. Even do that we all are from the same colour.....
You're not alone. This 53 yo white man shed some tears too.
Beautiful, thank you for posting this!
You make a Michigander proud, Mike. Thank you for everything you have done, and continue to do. ✋
THANK YOU . IT IS THE RIGTH MOMENT TOO WATCH IT AGAIN
I thought of this part of Michael's movie again when the Floyd protests began. Thank you SO much, Michael, for making a clip.
Thinking about Palestine while watching this and how Israel uses this to justify their own genocidal agenda. This hit me so hard. So many countries exist in the western world because of slavery and colonialism. We have to remember, we have to keep fighting. We have to do better.
As far as I can remember in the 70’s and 80’s, American public schools (middle schools and high schools) would teach about the civil war, the emancipation proclamation, Jim Crow laws, the Civil Rights Movement, Voting Rights Act of 1965, Plessy v Ferguson, Brown v Board of Education., Rosa Parks, etc. 12 Years a Slave by Soloman Northup was required reading in my English class in college in the early 90’s. I’ve always remembered all the pictures of signs that supported racial discrimination “colored drinking fountains,” “public swimming pool whites only,” “colored seated in rear,” “No dogs or Mexicans allowed.” As far as I know, since the early 70’s our public schools have taught us what our predecessors did. Nobody’s whitewashed anything nor do we pretend this never happened. I’ve also been told by Hispanic men who are now in their 70’s how Latinos were treated in Texas back in the 60’s and 70’s. I also remember how Bruce Lee couldn’t be cast in the TV series Kung Fu because he was Asian (funny given that Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco) because of Hollywood’s bigotry. It’s amazing how racial discrimination was so prevalent and was enforced by society, government and businesses. But it’s also amazing how far we’ve come and how we’ve changed as a country. My friends and family have enjoyed the freedoms and the opportunities this country has given us since we came to the U.S. We love this country and are saddened by how our politicians (on both sides) and the media have turned us against each other. We must never forget what we were so we don’t repeat the past. We shouldn’t instill in people guilt and shame for what previous generations did. Nor should we promote divisions among us because of the color of our skins or where we come from.
Wow 😢only if America did not live in denial what a country this would be
Thank you Michael. You are appreciated.
I wish you were right but unfortunately there are a lot of people here in Germany who already forgot what happened and the want "the old times" back. We can only hope that the majority rememers enaugh to take political influence and stay strong against racism.
Have been to Germany and of all the artefacts, museums, memorials the Holocaust Memorial you showed (the blocks just behind Brandenburg Gates) is amazing, simply amazingly beautiful.
Checkpoint Charlie is something to see too.
We have relatives living in Germany and they simply adore the country and the people - and these relatives are/were ‘survivors’....
So glad to hear that!💓
Thank you so much for your work Michael ❤️
My uncle who is German and whose father was a nazi soldier was shocked that i hadn't seen the Shindlers List. so he made me watch it with him. he said it was probably the 10th time that hes seeing that movie. And it was interesting how different our reactions to the movie were. i was just shocked and i didnt wanna talk about that movie for days after we watched it. but he was angry and he was proud to be angry at what his ancestors did. he was talking realy loudly about it and he was cursing in german. I think it made him mad that its a part of his history. its his family's history. and that makes him enraged.
now, about 15 years later i live in America. and i haven't met anyone that feels about the slavery or about the Native American genocides the way that my uncle felt about the holocaust. nobody is mad about what has happened here. some people acknowledge that their ancestors did horrible things but they often just offer an excuse like saying those were different times. and they didnt know better. and everyone else had slaves and was killing indians so it was normal in those days. they say in those days if you wanted to be successful in the south you had to own slaves. nobody cares really.
This is so good. When is the next documentary?
Thank you Michael for teaching us to be better you do an excellent job eat better please
@Murray William Biggar stop deflecting.
This is one of your best, Michael! I've lived in Germany for a while, and yes, it is difficult to watch the kids the week they start learning about the Holocaust, even if they've lived their whole lives around these little reminders on the sidewalks. The beginning of healing is rarely nice to watch. The US, and Canada (I'm in Québec) must learn from this German memorandum. And fast: the violence endured by First Peoples and People of colour is enough already! Then, something should be done in reparation for all the death the US, and Canada, have caused.
When does your reparation period start? 1800? 1500? 1000? 0? -1000? History cannot be repaired.
Can this be shared on every Facebook account. Perhaps some would get it. Probably not but I'm an optimist
Great message!
Germany had the Nuremberg Trials.
South Africa had the Truth and Reconciliation Committee.
America has the Black Lives Matter protests.
Dnt give up now until you have real change!
Very powerful. Thank you
We Americans could finally begin a healing process in our nation - if only we could manage to show the same courage in first acknowledging our own history with this same type of honesty and clarity. Instead we'd prefer to babble on endlessly about "family values" on the right, or whether we should have "gender specific bathrooms" on the left, but never, under any conditions, right or left, blue or red, do we Americans want to face "reality." We're always ready and willing to blame and vilify someone else, rather than to look in the mirror.
MM I came looking for you thinking you knew what was happening, but you don't, or maybe I'm wrong. But I know you're next big docu is going to be big, if you really look into what is really happening. You've always been an inspiration to me. I believe in you, so get to work.
Loving this message to all.....one heart, one love
Thank you Michael.
This is totally true.
American will never admit anything ugly about our country's history...no memory exists under Americsn exceptionalism.
So, become a part of the solution by action.
Failure to solve means you are a part of the problem.
You are not speaking the truth. I bet 95 % if not more of all americans would admit without a moment of hesitation that slavery is and was a bad thing. Don't always try to sh*t on your nation.
Reality doesn't care ... it will catch up one way or another ...
I still don’t see the rightfulness in people being made to atone for the wrongdoings of their ancestors. This is not reparation; it’s punishing people for a crime they didn’t commit.
There’s nothing wrong with remembering. It’s passing blame to innocent youth that’s wrong.
THOUGHTFUL , IMPORTANT , WELL DONE . . . . thanks !
I don't usually get emotional watching your videos, but this one really got to me. We need to do better.
And that's what separates the left from the right. Lefties always know how to appeal to the emotions and...avoid the facts. All they had to do to convince people that climate change was real was to show one single starving fluffy cute polar bear cub...and people believed the LIE. This is what Hitler said "The bigger the lie , the more people will believe it".
@@markanthony3275 I'm not a lefty and you're saying nothing of importance. If you find it hard to understand why a black person would be hurt by the many years if mistreatment and violence towards their people you're actively avoiding reality and lack sensibility and empathy. Nothing in this video was a lie. It's all based on historical facts and how one Country chose not to avoid the horrific choices of the past by teaching accurate history and how one Country chooses not to. You can either stay on topic, speak on facts or just continue to rant and rave, speaking in empty sayings that don't relate to any issue brought up.
@@nevermore464 HORSEPUCKY ! My mom's side of the family was tortured and almost starved to death by Josef Stalin because they were Kulaks...the class of people who Stalin decided needed to be eliminated entirely...20 million Kulaks were starved, tortured, and murdered. Stalin admitted he did this to Winston Churchill when Churchill accused him of killing ten million..."No" Stalin said, "It was 20 million". Members of my family had to dig up cattails from swamps and eat those to survive. My dad's side of the family lived in Poland...and some of them met their end at the hands of Adolf Hitler...so don't waste your time lecturing me about how hard black people have it...they live in the greatest country in the world and they should all shut up...stop engaging in rampant promiscuity, start fathering their children and STOP committing crime !
@@markanthony3275 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
great video!
A part of a good start would be to read A People’s History of the United States by Howard Zinn. The real story.
www.goodreads.com/book/show/2767.A_People_s_History_of_the_United_States
Zinn's book is heart wrenching and so true.
I love A People's History. The book Age of Betrayal by Jack Beatty affirms the corporate control of our country that Congress and the US Supreme Court allowed during the Gilded Age. And now, the rich keep getting richer while the majority of us are struggling. History shows what happens when the working and middle classes aren't shored up as President Biden tried to do. We are the legs that every nation stands on. Hopefully we'll get more seats in the Senate and Congress in 2022 and 2024.
Thanks for opening many people. You are brave and honest
As a German, I learned as a child what my ancestors did. And it was fine like that. Our schools convey the value of life. It should be like this everywhere.
But this role model also has a shadow side. Political camps are formed which want to assign permanent guilt to the Germans. So we don't have the chance to develop further. We cannot learn from our mistakes. We should be forced to remain guilty forever.
Unfortunately, there is no use in understanding your story if you are prevented from processing it.
I know the history of my country, but I also want to be proud of being a German. There are so many things that we have given the world. such as letterpress.
When I say I am proud to be German and what our ancestors have created, from reformation, to cars or X-rays, ... then I am insulted in this country as a Nazi.
That is the price we have to pay as Germans. We are deprived of the freedom to be proud of our ancestors. If you are proud of some of our long Germanic history, you are always a Nazi.
This story should also be told once.
Arminius was kidnapped as a child by Rome and trained in their culture. He along with the other kidnapped Germanic children always held on to their Germanic identity. Hold fast. Never feel guilt for your Germanic heritage. Never forget the lesson of Teutoburg Forest.
I am an American born in Germany to two American parents, about 20 years after WWII. All during my childhood, school and watching TV and Movies I heard the history of this country and had always felt we were getting better, progressing. Now, I don't feel this way at all, and I've even gone so far as to wondering what my legal status would be in Germany - because never in my life until the last decade or two did I ever think Germany would be a better national role model than my America? What I see in my country now every day when I wake up nauseates me. If anyone is German or knows the immigration system can tell me if it is possible to have dual citizenship with Germany - please let me know, or how to find out?
Here you go: de.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/dual-nationality/
@@GeordiLaForge1974
Thank you
It seems to say that you can have dual citizenship, but only after 2000.
www.expatica.com/de/moving/visas/german-citizenship-108795/
Usually dual citizenship is only possible for EU citizens but there are a few exceptions. With Americans, it depends. If you are a German who happens to be born in the US and/or has one American parent it is possible, but otherwise it is harder. Normally I would recommend you to go to the Ausländerbehörde and ask yourself if it is possible for your specific circumstances and what you have to do to obtain it, but if I understand you correctly, you have never lived in Germany for a longer time, you just happened to be born over here, right?
In this case I can answer your question: You have no right to a German citizenship just by the virtue of having been born in the country. German citizenship is mostly ruled by blood-line. Children born in Germany only obtain the citizenship if they are born to parents who have lived at least 8 years legally in the country and grew up here (it is basically a provision which makes it easier for children of guest workers and immigrants to obtain legal status).
Unless your ancestors lost their German citizenships under the Nazi regime. In this case you can restore it.
it seems like you have no legal claim to german citizenship right now; i know a few people in their 30s who do have both, but they all have one american and one german parent; works the same way for GB. and a german can be naturalized to another EU country. there's no other way to be a german dual citizen as an adult (anymore).
but it's relatively easy for us citizens to permanently move to germany, probably easier than for any other non-schengen non-eu country except GB. i don't think you being born here helps with citizenship at all, though, unless you learned german as a child and retained it.
Thank you for doing this!!!
Thank you Michael! ✊🏼
Once again Michael, Thank You!
I like the idea of a nationally funded Museum of Slavery.
This is why its so daft to destroy confederate monuments those that deny and or destroy or try to hide inconvenient truths such as history are bound to repeat it or relive it over and over. Remembering can teach all sides from all perspectives some Lessons. Lets learn from our Grand parents mistakes so that we never forget them
Those statues/monuments where built to intimidate African Americans. And no one learns history from a statue, and if you do find out about the statue, you do it once, but you have to see it in the town square or the city hall every day. I support getting rid of all these historical monuments and putting them in museums where their context can be taught at the appropriate time and place.
Take it from a German: Those statues have nothing to do with preserving history, they are all about distorting it. If you are so concerned about history, you should advocate for melting them down in order to turn them into memorials to the victims of Slavery, native American genocide, Racism, the Civil war and all the other nonsense the US has been up to.
swanpride you’re totally correct.
how about the multi billion dollar business and growing of child smuggling etc..........that is dispicable and happening under our noses. take a look at that.
I have rest in my playlist in case you want it
Stop hijacking one subject for another! That foolish practice harms both.
Michael, Thank you for this composition. As a person of Christian, Jewish & Animist heritage, this ownership of 'exogenous' (Latin 'other-generated') war & genocide complicity must come to Zionists & Jewish peoples as well. We are not just the perpetual victims but the active purveyors of genocide including against the German people. Individuals may seem to be apart, but when one considers the trickledown oligarch networks, we are part of & often dependent or addicted to, we must acknowledge our submission or participation in 'corporate' (L 'body') leadership role in war & genocide. Through 7000s years, since leaving the destroyed Babylon empire of that time, our finance-media-religion-education-military-industrial-legislative-judicial-complex has been atrociously destructive of 'indigenous' (L 'self-generating') people & biosphere. We're complicit in the colonial genocide of: over 100 million people in the Americas, 200 million people in Africa (including slavery), 100 million dead in the east, 100 million dead in the far-east & Australia, many 10s of millions of dead in the last 30 years of destabilization of the Middle-east & North-Africa. Presently we're self-justifying genocide of Palestinians with invasion & occupation of Palestine. Yes never-again, by anyone. For those wishing to dis-indoctrinate, de-propagandize their minds, visit www.indigenecommunity.info to find out about your & all humanity's worldwide indigenous heritage of peace & prosperity for many 10s of 1000s of years of contributing to collective humanity & the life of the biosphere.
please have Bret Weinstein on your podcast. i would love to hear the two of you talk about the current sate of politics in America
My dad is German and went back to visit years ago.
And someone brought up WW2 and my dad as a joke quickly threw up a Nazi salute.
And a relative quickly stopped him from extending his arm. 😄
And my dad found out it’s literally illegal to display any Nazi symbols in Germany, so it can’t happen.
Doesn’t fly like that in America.
You can out the confederate flag on your car if you want.
Should we bend our knee to another human being and kiss their feet? NO!!! Together we must bend our knees to our Creator and only then we will receive salvation, freedom and prosperity.
We should if we have something to apologize for.
@@swanpride You can't apologize for something you haven't done and you can't be proud of something you haven't done. Two sides of the same coin.
the germans where forced to look and acknowledge straight after ww2
it makes it harder every day when you need to answer the question "what took you so long"
Michael Moore is absolutely the very best thing America has produced.
The clip concentrates on the current situation. For my parents generation, history lessons at school ended after World War I. That was in the 70s. Around the year 2000 we leaned quite intensively what happened at the time. Many young people here don't know much about the regime and the war, despite learning about it at school. I'm afraid they don't care anymore. Not all of course, but there is a trend. Right-wingers bending history as they please face uneducated youngsters manipulating them easily. Again, only the uneducated ones.
Great clip Michael, you have a point!
Brilliant Work Michael!
As Humans we can be great. We just have to decide which type of Great we want to be.
Communist great...that's what the end decision will be. Only it goes by a different name now..."Communitarianism". That's where you will be required to make certain sacrifices "for the "good of the community". You will agree to be silenced. You will agree to give up personal rights and freedoms. You will agree to give up your property to the state. You will agree that the capitalist economic system is evil and should be destroyed. You will agree that democracy must be abolished because it allows people to freely choose someone who will be against giving everything up (like President Trump for example) . You will agree to abolish your sovereign nation and let a global government tell you how you should live, act and think. And...you will agree to take on your body a mark that shows your willingness to believe in the system and that you are property of the state. You'll be told all along that you are giving these things up for the "good of the community"...and then you will find out too late that the "community " is big tech and government...and doesn't include YOU. If you really want a glimpse of the future, learn everything there is to know about German history from the period of 1870 to 1945...because in the same way that a mass delusion fell over the German people who worshipped Hitler as their saviour...the same mass delusion is falling on people right now...and another Hitler is about to appear shortly.
Hitler and the 3rd Reich lasted only a few years, it was a horrible tragedy. we kept slavery and hatred alive for almost 400 years, until it was a part of the culture, that is a big part of the reason it is so hard to overcome. It is very sad, but almost seems normal. Most of the time anymore, I am ashamed to be an American, and it used to be my identity.
Why not be proud to be an American who fought and in the end abolished slavery?
This has never been so pertinent!
Germany's history is about more than just post WWII history
This must be new because 25 years ago I knew a German who moved to America and Never knew about the history of what happened until he moved here. That is dangerous.
I have rest in my playlist
This person was not very intelligent. I am 59 years old and from the 8th to the 13th class our history lessons consisted only of the time from 1900 to 1950. That Germany also had a history that its inhabitants could be proud of was hardly known to me.
Unless the German grew up in the 1950s, that is extremely unlikely. Our "student demonstrations" in the late 1960s/early 1970s were for a huge chunk about dealing with that part of our history. Which lead to huge reforms in our school system and what is known as "Erinnerungskultur" (Remembrance culture) and "Vergangenheitsbewältigung" (Dealing with the past).
Thank you. Wonderful work.
Thank You.
Having lived under trump’s * illegitimate reign, I certainly have more empathy for the innocent people who lived in Germany during Hitler’s regime. Most of them , who understood what was actually going on were appalled, as we are. I still believe that most people are good. Thanks for this moving, thought provoking message. Take care & God bless everyone, everywhere!🙏🏻🇺🇸🙏🏻🌎🙏🏻🌏🙏🏻💕👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Only a moron can compare living under Trump with living under Hilter. Shame on you.
As a German i had to correct two things in your last movies, first in the movie above children are not learned every day but with a conscience ripe in the age of 15 to 16 understanding the reasons why a democracy can flip, why Hitler has an easy game to come in power and why its important to stand up against racism. The reasons are for example: unfair compensation payments the Germany has to pay the the allies of World War 1, having an unstable parliament in the Weimar Republic, big unemployment numbers before Hitler came in power etc. The Second correction i want to make is that the film about renewable energies you had a misinformation that Germany only has 2% of his energy consumption with renewable energies but when you only have a look on electricity the numbers are for the 47,3% and rising.
He didn't say every child every day. In every school every day means some kids are tought that.
And you confused electric power with primary power (including oil and gas for heating, coal for industrial processes and so on...).
As a German I feel the need to point out that my schools trained me early on to recognize demagogues for what they are. It started out small in primary school with lessons about how advertising messaging worked, and then continued in lessons about rhetoric and questionable philosophies in the tender age of 11 and 12. But the time I was 15, I was already long in the phase in which a lot of pupils get sick of learning about it.
I think I'm right in saying that America gave a lot of money to Germany to keep it afloat in the years following World War 1, but when the Wall Street crash, the big recession of 1926, occurred in the USA there was no money anymore for the Americans to give. This caused a huge recession in Germany in the late-1920's and 1930's which fueled a rise in nationalism and meant the people were looking for a leader that could give them hope. They thought Hitler was the answer, the people weren't aware in the early days of his evil plans, they supported him however as he promised a job for everyone, a home for everyone, even a cheap car (the Volkswagen Beatle) for each person, and money in people's pockets that they could spend on leisure. As far as I know Hitler's plans of genocide weren't known to the German people in the early years of him being in power. You can trace many of the reasons for Germany's problems in the 1920's and 30's to the Treaty Of Versailles in 1918, it made the country have to pay so much money to its opponents from World War 1 - particularly France - that Germany really struggled financially, as you say in your comment.
I don't understand your second correction. In which way is this even a correction?
Yes, don't deny the crimes and sins of the past. Also raise the question, how MUCH should we focus on our crimes and sins until it actually becomes pathological and unhealthy and who decides that? I certainly wouldn't want to walk around in that state of mind. I wouldn't be able to function or do much at all.
We can be partly pregnant.
We can't do it partly.
You are either in it for the right reason or you are out, personally I am in it for the whole good change.
@@johnmyers115 I'm afraid you are in it to blame other people, right?
If only.....I am born and raised in Germany. Now that i am over 50 Years living in Germany, i have to tell you, that remembering alone is only one step. There are far to many germans, who deny the history. Even with our culture of remembering they dare to disagree. Ok, probably only about 10% of us. But that are 10% to much. And its an ongoing task to diskuss this topic, it drains energy, it makes me loose hope, when even within people near me i find positions far to right to accept as a democratic flavour. Then i look over to you. How hard must it be to fight against hate, crime, racicm, fashicm without a broad culture of remembering. And i believe to see (or i hope to see) some progress over there and here. These are the moments i hope that my joke "that the only thing we ever learned from history, is that we never learn from history" is nothing but a joke
The problem is that most people learn from the horrors of the right-wing socialism that they have to be left-wing socialists and so they are right on track to start the next tyranny.
Thank You! Continue to tell ALL the through!
There is no good reason to not start teaching truth about our terrible past.
WE have to acknowledge our historical past and make a pact to not forget AND to change for the better now.
We can be proud to be a part of the solution.
I am a part of the solution. I want public signage to Tell of our past shameful deeds to prevent them from happening again.
The racism in America has been going on for too long on so many levels. People must learn solidarity, that paying taxes and using it for health, a good environment and education is good and leads to equality.
and the scariest thing is that *even* with all this culture of rememberance there is still a portion of our (German) population that doesn't seem to draw the apparent conclusion from it.
so one could only imagine how much worse it might be if there wasn't this culture.
In our country, basic education has gotten rid of History classes. Now, we are on the brink of bringing back the family of the late dictator who once tortured our nation.
Excellent!
Pretty much Jungian Psychology here, of The Shadow.
If you refuse to face your dark side, in this case your dark history, its impulses will run the show without you noticing it is.
The world has progressed past the need for America, no more USA pls
As critical as I am of the US who do you think should be the leadership country ... Russia ... China?
justgivemethetruth , I prefer no hegemony, thus no capitalism which fuels its necessity
@@justgivemethetruth Well, certainly no corporate fascist, military-industrial complex, raining death on poor people in other countries, should be the leadership country. That leaves out the US - murder, death and blight Inc., spending as much on militarism as the next ten countries combined, and leaving its own citizens impoverished. Won't even provide health care, which every other developed country does. My vote for the leadership country would be Bhutan.
@@nickcherries Well said.
Not only that, but most of the rest of the world despises America at this point, for good reasons. The number one rogue nation, without accountability.
Michael your timely work of self-criticism within critical practices has been spot on, and I admire your courage to go on despite so much denial in our society. In that spirit of self-criticism, I ask you: please don’t use (and please help to get others to stop using) the qualifier “dark” as a metaphor for evil. Language is never neutral, and you know how evil its effects are. I know your intention is the opposite but every time that metaphor gets used it also reproduces racism even when that is not the intention driving its use.
Thank you for who you are, and for showing the way when it can only be the hard way. Much love!
How does the word "dark" reproduce racism as you claim?
Isn't this a mythical, philosophical and biblical term for evil? It's how the Taoists describe the Yang principle. It's not intended to be pejorative of one's race. Couldn't that clarification be made as needed, defining the collective evil that pertains to all of us?
Even President Obama described "dark forces" of the GOP that have grown darker since.
Do we need to have Star Wars edit out the word dark? Or can we trust that most people know it's not racial?
Seriously, if someone feels stigmatized, can't it be explained that it's not a racial reference, that it's the evil in us all?
What word do you believe that we and the whole of academia should use?
As it is, Michael is repeating the words of the prophets.
We can only improve if we take lesson from our history and avoid making the same mistakes.
Everyone has a dark side.
So true. If only were educated in such a way, and lived in such a way, that the dark side didn't prevail.
Look.. I am your fadda 💂
Was not only Jews, my family still suffer from what WW2 did with us.
Beautifull
And now the states have an elected official who seriously compared wearing a paper mask, to wearing a Star of David on their coats during WW2
Powerful. Thanks!
I am german, (west) germany was never denazified, there were nazis in parliament from the very beginning, and liberals just feel guilty but _don't understand *why* _ this happned (the answer is nationalism thrives under capitlism in crisis) and therefore dont recognize why the very same rethoric is starting to appear again, aimed at muslims/arab-coded people this time
now with the genocide in gaza, liberals and even supposedly leftists are talking about "importet antisemitism" from people against genocide
IMPORTED ANTISEMITISM IN GERMANY???
they are trying to absolve themselves of their guilt and push it onto arabs. This week I heard a FDP politician (free market liberals) say that the holocaust has nothing to do with christianity bc of some christian rebels like Bonhoeffer, nevermind that like 99% of nazis were christian (Himmler & his esotherics were a tiny minority) and not 5 mins later he talked about the "islamic SS battalion" and the grand mufti of jerusalem
Or in novmber, when mainstream media were talking about attacks by arab immigrants aginst jews in Amsterdam, when actually it was clashes between dutch and israeli football hooligans, and drew pralells to Reichspogromnacht (crystl night), therefore massively downplaying the latter, ON ITS ANNIVERSARY
That is holocaust revisionism by members of mainstream german parties and mainstream media and no one bats an eye
Michael, you are brilliant.
Shame and guilt are hard to overcome … I know, because I am german. But one can always try, own the burden and be better and stronger for it!
And you are supposed to feel guilty until which century exactly ?
Well, it's not taught all the time, but schools make it quite sure you at least had heard once about it in school.
Unfortunately for some people the lesson is not forever learned.
And we have some structures in our society where you have to be very careful to to establish things that make things worse.
You need police, you need an army, but you and especially the members of police and army must never forget, what their task is, and for whom they work, for the people, most of the people at the police and the army knows this. Yes there are some who cause trouble, and they have to be removed from this kind of duty.
Keeping up this discussion is part of our democracy, sometimes we fail, but most of the times we succeed, there is always room for improvement.
We all are what we are because we did what we did. If we denied what we did and who we are, who are we then?
Brilliant piece.
The post says this is 50 minutes long. Where is the rest? 🙄
So true, that's what me and my indigenous people also the colored Americans try to say. Nothing is gonna get better because you haven't started your healing journeys. Acknowledge the hurt and use that to make a change.