Sorry to be that guy, but the Defender didn't get that name until 1990, not 1983. It went from the Land Rover Series III to just the Land Rover 90/110 in 1983 then in 1990 for the launch/update when the 200tdi came out it got changed to Defender 90/110
Tiff is a legend. One of the greatest driver’s I’ve ever seen. Never forget how he handled the Mitsubishi Evo’s in the 90’s in the old top gear, pure badass.
Having owned an old Defender, I scoffed earlier this year at the new incarnation. Then I purchased the new P300 version six weeks ago and I've had to eat my hat. It's just superb. I went for white steelies so I wouldn't get to precious about ruining the Range Rover style alloys and they suit my rural area much better.
In India we shall probably have to wait till 2030 for the vehicle to become affordable even after depreciation kicks in. And the sad thing is we just get the option of the 4 cylinder 2 litre Diesel here which I think is underpowered for such a big heavy vehicle.
TIFF’s DNA is in a race track, It was tense watching him going through the mud as fast as he did. Very entertaining though 😂. Tiff is a living legend 👍
Ive always loved Tiffs journalism. He’s the only reviewer Ive watched who correctly called the exposed Torx screw heads. Most call them (incorrectly) rivets. Great to see him reviewing the new Landy.
Great review by Tiff. One of the few UK journalists who can't be bought by manufacturers. Will always remember how approachable Tiff was at Thruxton Btcc a few years ago. Chatting to myself and other fans! National treasure.
Always love a review by Uncle Tiff. Great looking car but way too much dependence on electronics to be too serious as an off-roader, surely - at least in remote places. Also, not being able to fit smaller than 18" rims because of the the brake assembly will be a show stopper for many.
Thumbs wrapped around is only used for racing. When you're off road you have to have thumbs not in front of the wheel because that is where feel of the road and control is completely irrelevant to the driver. So it's not worth the risk.
@@seren1ty755 thumbs on the wheel is the correct way when offroading to prevent sprained wrists or brocken thumbs as steering wheel can whip when tyres fall into a rut or push off a rock. I was praising Tiff not criticizing.
I’ve been following Tiff since the early days on Top Gear, a national treasure!! Best car reviewer out there with amazing driving skills and the fire of a competitive racer. Subscribed .. 👍🏻👍🏻
I’m impressed. Have always loved the old Defenders. Would like to see a more off-road looking one. Off road tires etc. would like to test drive one . One day. Bravo to Land Rover
The new Defender is certainly not a Discovery. The new Discovery (Disco 5) is more of an entry level Range Rover in terms of luxury, the new Defender isn't. Get over it. It's a new, modern re-imagining of the Defender, made for its time, just like the Series was made for its time (which was a good 60 years ago).
@@DonFather I don't find the new Defender remotely 'feminine' but that's a matter of opinion, therefore, subjective. I have never liked the looks of the new Disco 5 - I find it oddly proportioned, especially in the rear. It would have to be a Defender for me if I wanted a Land Rover, or a Ranger Rover Sport if I wanted a Range Rover.
@@Gklasse oh right I didn't think I needed to specify this, but how about a vehicle designed in this century, and not just made for ONE country with no emissions or safety regulations? 😂
@@gc2234 Beg your pardon? No safety regulations in Aus what are you smoking? Christos point is there are so many electronic settings in the all terrain system if they malfunction your cooked. It’s not as if JLR products are actually reliable either. Just look at the TFL channel and their brand spanking new Defender lol.
You can't beat a Tiff review. Keep 'em coming! I really like the look of the new Defender, it's modern can do all the old one did but a lot more comfort and can handle being on the normal roads at speed as well. I am sure old Defender purists hate it, but I think Land Rover pulled off the impossible.
Nothing like it at all, but u know what I still Love the looks of the original for me its Always been the ultimate real off road, that was build with 1 thing in mind go anywhere a car can go
@@daboy12s I understand you well cause the original would shake your fillings out But why Not build the original using modern engineering technics? as even after So many years it Still Looks the Best n most purposeful build of ALL off roaders on earth, all u have to do is look at the original n it tells you am the king of all off roads hands down
Enjoyed that Tiff, it’s one of the few vehicles I’d swap my Cayenne S diesel out for I think. I tow regularly and it off roads’ almost daily BTW but it’s also great on a euro tour. Don’t fancy either RR, RRS or new Disco but this Defender Disco would do.
@@Khalaxe well not exactly as some models were well over 55k new. The price of the new commercial defender will be around the 30k mark.Again this reflects the large spread of prices of the old one 23k-60k.
@@andyhunt457 Still cheaper dude, that's like me saying the new one is 100k because it can be, you are making the old one seem more spenny than it is. You go from the lowest price, respectively 23k for the old one 45k for the new one.
Lovely shots along the Malvern Hills! I worked at LR for 10 years, and can't help feeling they should have made a small Defender for people living in the city - isn't that why the 90 is popular in London? A sort of City Rover/90/Evoque mash up that's luxurious to be in, but can deal with parking knocks. BTW, an Evoque is on the limit length-wise here in NYC for street parking.
As another ex-Wimpey civil engineer (hello Tiff), this isn't the vehicle which my former employer would buy for their workforce. It's an urban SUV with off road capabilities. Most construction companies would buy it for their Directors and senior managers. It's also totally unsuited for serious overland travel. Maybe it's a great vehicle but aimed at a completely different market to its predecessor.
Progress isn't always a good thing, it's not what a defender, or series Land Rover was meant to be. Great review though shame car programs don't have more Tiffs and less comedians.
l know what you mean about the old Defender and series Land Rovers but these new models are aimed at a different market worldwide, you can bet the new model production run wont be nearly as long!!!!! l like a lot of people mourn the loss of the old Defender, l am waiting to see what the new 90" Commercial is like.
I was looking up why the original Landy was created this evening for some reason. Apparently, one of those reasons was that we had to ship most of the 200,000 Jeeps that the US had lent us to play around with during WWII back to the US between 1946 and 1948. Well, it was called "lend lease" I suppose. But who would have thunk it!
And hey presto, thanks to the wonders of electronic wizardry anyone can suddenly become an off-road driving legend overnight. It’s like motoring karaoke! 😂
Used to drive an old 110 defender for railway incident response, absolute dog of a car travelling 50 miles to get to the incident but fantastic once you get through the access gate, then a dog of a car driving 50 miles back to the office, I’d much prefer the new defender in that job
@@GMV8KSA mind blowing, they're on their third one and even that's looking temperamental. LR have given them a massive free upgrade on the latest one, which for me only makes things worse!
Never thought that I will ever say this, But I love the new defender especially the long base one. I think Land rover has done a great job with this one.
I do love this car. But I'd be happy for them to reduce the cost by stripping out some gadgets and making it more utilitarian. The safety, off road capability, engines etc are all good. I don't need all the features as standard.
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Sorry to be that guy, but the Defender didn't get that name until 1990, not 1983. It went from the Land Rover Series III to just the Land Rover 90/110 in 1983 then in 1990 for the launch/update when the 200tdi came out it got changed to Defender 90/110
why, best to avoid, considering what happened to the TFL youtube channels new defender !
@@mixalis6168 YAWN
@@ChurchDenton why a yawn? It's consumer advice. Imagine spending £80k on something that simply doesn't work.
@@sweetfreedomGB Err, what are you talking about.
The Defender and Tiff Needell. Couldn't miss this one out.
Tiff is a gentleman and i sincerely like his way of presentation. Best of Luck Tiff
@J Are uhhhhh what
Tiff is a class act. Been following him for over 20 years.
Where has it got you to. Nowhere
@@theone7644 you’re right. Thanks for reminding me of the loser that I am.
@@theone7644 Cnt.
Didn't he turn round once and say hello?
@@theone7644 Haha
Watching Tiff doing a review is like popping on yer old favourite slippers and sitting by the open fire with a single malt - aahhhhh 😁
Love that!
@@lovecarsTV The Defender name didn't appear until the early 90s.
Excellent comment and could not agree more 👍🏻😊
Except today Tiff is doing paid promotions of new cars and pretend it is a proper, independent test.
Still makes me laugh when Clarkson said "the two people whose opinion I respect most, The Stig and Tiff Needell"
Tiff is a legend. One of the greatest driver’s I’ve ever seen. Never forget how he handled the Mitsubishi Evo’s in the 90’s in the old top gear, pure badass.
Proper driver, not like Clarkson and co
This is the good old car review.
Having owned an old Defender, I scoffed earlier this year at the new incarnation. Then I purchased the new P300 version six weeks ago and I've had to eat my hat. It's just superb. I went for white steelies so I wouldn't get to precious about ruining the Range Rover style alloys and they suit my rural area much better.
Tiff really is a national treasure
I appreciate that you talked about this vehicle for what it is, not for what the name is replacing.
That voice takes me back to the 90s when propa car reviews were on tv 🧡
He's still on RUclips for you!
Tiff is a proper old school motoring journalist, and that's a good thing!
Amazing to See Tiff do a review solo..more of this please.
More to come!
@@lovecarsTV Excellent
I see Tiff, I click! No second thoughts :)
Great review as always! Waiting to buy one of these in about 3 years, post initial depreciation.
Same here. When our Disco 3 has had enough, we'll get a Defender. The Disco has been brilliant though, on and off road.
In India we shall probably have to wait till 2030 for the vehicle to become affordable even after depreciation kicks in.
And the sad thing is we just get the option of the 4 cylinder 2 litre Diesel here which I think is underpowered for such a big heavy vehicle.
Have always enjoyed Tiff's reviews
Tiff Needell just miss you and your car reviews. Land Rover Defender and your Review what a comeback for both
The first Defender review I’ve enjoyed thanks to Tiff, it’s even made me like the new Defender a little bit more but not as much as the original.
Great to see Tiff back at it
TIFF’s DNA is in a race track, It was tense watching him going through the mud as fast as he did. Very entertaining though 😂. Tiff is a living legend 👍
He Definitely is!
Tim always has one of the best reviews
Thank you!
This the best paint I've seen on the new Defender so far.
Ive always loved Tiffs journalism. He’s the only reviewer Ive watched who correctly called the exposed Torx screw heads. Most call them (incorrectly) rivets. Great to see him reviewing the new Landy.
Ha, It's the little things like that make Tiff so popular!
I’ve soon discovered after watching this that I really need a Land Rover Defender in my life!!
Glad you enjoyed the video. 😏👌
Love your videos and the enthusiastic sense of presentation and humour !
Glad you like them!
Nice job Tif, informative and engaging. A proper review.
Thank you kindly!
Amazing to see tiff again doing motoring jornalism ❤️❤️
I think tiff and chris Harris could really make top gear great again if they done it together
Classic and Genius Tiff Reviews , This is what gets people interested , He leaves us hanging , It must be good
Glad you enjoyed it Lee 👌😁
Always glad to see Tiff
😎👍
Great review by Tiff. One of the few UK journalists who can't be bought by manufacturers. Will always remember how approachable Tiff was at Thruxton Btcc a few years ago. Chatting to myself and other fans! National treasure.
Where i work, we make the exhaust system for the new defender, and ship them to Slovakia, and also most JLR, vehicles, Range rover and Jags etc.
So you’re the one to blame in case of fail ones?
Always love a review by Uncle Tiff. Great looking car but way too much dependence on electronics to be too serious as an off-roader, surely - at least in remote places. Also, not being able to fit smaller than 18" rims because of the the brake assembly will be a show stopper for many.
I always click when I see Tiff. Like this Defender quite a bit! Maybe a replacement for our 2020 XC90 in a few years.
Good to see off road section with Tiff holding the steering wheel properly thumbs on the the wheel not wrapped around. Well done!
Thumbs wrapped around is only used for racing. When you're off road you have to have thumbs not in front of the wheel because that is where feel of the road and control is completely irrelevant to the driver. So it's not worth the risk.
@@seren1ty755 thumbs on the wheel is the correct way when offroading to prevent sprained wrists or brocken thumbs as steering wheel can whip when tyres fall into a rut or push off a rock. I was praising Tiff not criticizing.
@@waynesmith678 yes I'm aware of that. That's why I said you shouldnt wrap your thumbs around the wheel off roading.
I’ve been following Tiff since the early days on Top Gear, a national treasure!! Best car reviewer out there with amazing driving skills and the fire of a competitive racer. Subscribed .. 👍🏻👍🏻
Wow, thank you. Glad to have you here! 😁👌
Tiff awesome to see you review cars again, great review thankyou! More please :)
More to come!
to be in your 60s and to have no belly at all... some people are blessed.
Good grief, Wiki says Tiff is 69.. He looks late 50s at best.. Must be doing something right?
I think racing drivers try to keep lean and in shape. At least that's what Jackie Stewart wrote in his book.
Maybe everything he does is in moderation '
Like spending money !
Enough is just enough 🤣
Or maybe he just looks after himself.
We forget that professional racing drivers are also elite athletes.
Probably the best car ad/review I've ever seen.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Great video..Tiff is a legend
This car is everything as an allotment lover to horse rider to big city lad in Leeds. The best of the best.
clearly the best fifth gear presenter was tiff
Obviously!
@@clubracer6 o
tiff and jhonny smith (car pervert, late brake show) are on par.....both incredible
@@markhood6654 to be clear i like all of them. i admire tiff and platos btcc experience and vbh and jonny are great (no 'h' in jonny)
It’s one very class presentation and very informative. Haven’t heard the word “Blimey” for a long time.
Glad you enjoyed it John!
Tiff you are the one to beat on all car reviews ...brilliant
I’m impressed. Have always loved the old Defenders. Would like to see a more off-road looking one. Off road tires etc. would like to test drive one . One day. Bravo to Land Rover
Glad you're impressed Richard, we are too! 😁👌
Great demonstration....I want one!
Glad you enjoyed it Dave, we do too. 😁👍
I'd forgotten that Tiff had a civil engineering degree in college.
FINALLY A TIFF CHANNEL :)
Its good to see Tiff, and a proper review. Thanks!
Has to be the best Defender review. Period!
Thanks for the great feedback!
So beautiful land rover
Tiff, you are one of the few old guys that are cool, you are only second to mick
Tiff is still the best of the best.
If it was named "Discovery"...most of the critics would be in silence about this new "Defender".
Exactly, but it seems that LR is feminzing all their designs now. The Discovery already looks like a woman's make up box.
@@DonFather that radiators near the wheel arches are a give away for what were they focusing with this new Defender.
The new Defender is certainly not a Discovery. The new Discovery (Disco 5) is more of an entry level Range Rover in terms of luxury, the new Defender isn't. Get over it. It's a new, modern re-imagining of the Defender, made for its time, just like the Series was made for its time (which was a good 60 years ago).
@@DonFather I don't find the new Defender remotely 'feminine' but that's a matter of opinion, therefore, subjective. I have never liked the looks of the new Disco 5 - I find it oddly proportioned, especially in the rear. It would have to be a Defender for me if I wanted a Land Rover, or a Ranger Rover Sport if I wanted a Range Rover.
@@DonFather bit sexist
You can trust Tiff to give an honest review.
Great photography, liked the video production but then The Malverns always look majestic.
Totally agree!
Land Rover nailed this car. This is exactly what a 21st century defender should be.
A proper decent, classic car review!!
Now we might get an honest test. Tiff tel it how it is. Can it be fixed in Nepal by the locals half way up a mountain like the original?
Name any modern 4x4 that can?
@@gc2234 land cruiser 70 still produced for Australia
@@Gklasse oh right I didn't think I needed to specify this, but how about a vehicle designed in this century, and not just made for ONE country with no emissions or safety regulations? 😂
@@gc2234 Beg your pardon? No safety regulations in Aus what are you smoking? Christos point is there are so many electronic settings in the all terrain system if they malfunction your cooked. It’s not as if JLR products are actually reliable either. Just look at the TFL channel and their brand spanking new Defender lol.
Bore off
Whenever i see Tiff i click Like immediately no question about it ☝
Hit the Tiff-Like button!
@@lovecarsTV Nice!! Haha 👍👍😁
Aaaaaaand the engine light is ON 😂😂😂
YAWN
@@ChurchDenton or if you want to....spend £70k and wait for the light show
@@sweetfreedomGB no different to any other modern car, you just have this fixation that this cars bad.
@@ChurchDentonPeople complain about this vehicle and never owned on.
Fantastic test marka Tiff Needel
Great review by Tiff !
We have one, in the same colour too! It’s superb
Looks the like the previous generation Discovery and it's a lot more pricey now, but it was high time they updated the old Landy.
You can't beat a Tiff review. Keep 'em coming! I really like the look of the new Defender, it's modern can do all the old one did but a lot more comfort and can handle being on the normal roads at speed as well. I am sure old Defender purists hate it, but I think Land Rover pulled off the impossible.
Not a great fan of the face but it is pleasantly understated, and would be my choice over any garish German you can think of in this category.
I thought the same thing... but it looks so much better in real life.
Tiff’s a brilliant presenter 👍
This guy knows how to talk car talk. A car poet.
Lovely review
Also Lucky you tiff
Every msgs have name
you must Be VIP , well done👍🏾
Land Rover built a true great with this one!
😏👍
Lovely review from tiff pure viewing pleasure
I would love to see one drive Sydney NSW to Broome WA - that will be a test.
Would they be through the middle and across the Simpson Desert, or round the coast?
Better stay around the edge to far away from support technology in the middle
Exactly the same car iv just been watching Richard Hammond review (same plate)
Yeh and the same PR exercise
Hammond wasn't allowed to go off-road though lol
Eagle eye
Exept Hammond spent more time talking about the dog he had with him
Where is that video. They've removed it?
Add me to the chorus of people happy to see Tiff. :)
👌😁
It's no farm truck anymore
Nothing like it at all, but u know what I still Love the looks of the original for me its Always been the ultimate real off road, that was build with 1 thing in mind go anywhere a car can go
@@daboy12s I understand you well cause the original would shake your fillings out But why Not build the original using modern engineering technics? as even after So many years it Still Looks the Best n most purposeful build of ALL off roaders on earth, all u have to do is look at the original n it tells you am the king of all off roads hands down
The best Discovery LR has ever built 😉
Enjoyed that Tiff, it’s one of the few vehicles I’d swap my Cayenne S diesel out for I think. I tow regularly and it off roads’ almost daily BTW but it’s also great on a euro tour. Don’t fancy either RR, RRS or new Disco but this Defender Disco would do.
Good choice!
It's the best 4x4 I could find for towing.
Its so much more expensive than the old one.....oh no wait the old one cost 50k...
I even managed to find a heritage edition for like £65,000 or something like that.
Second hand because they have appreciated in value. New they were £30k, that's a success story if anything.
@@Khalaxe well not exactly as some models were well over 55k new.
The price of the new commercial defender will be around the 30k mark.Again this reflects the large spread of prices of the old one 23k-60k.
@@andyhunt457 Still cheaper dude, that's like me saying the new one is 100k because it can be, you are making the old one seem more spenny than it is. You go from the lowest price, respectively 23k for the old one 45k for the new one.
Ah yes, 90% are still on the road, [The other 10% managed to make it home before the check engine light came on and something died}.
Its unique.. it has good road presence im loving its styling..
Great to see him again :)
exceptionally well done car review. 👍Tiff
Thanks glad you enjoyed it 😎👌
Lovely shots along the Malvern Hills! I worked at LR for 10 years, and can't help feeling they should have made a small Defender for people living in the city - isn't that why the 90 is popular in London? A sort of City Rover/90/Evoque mash up that's luxurious to be in, but can deal with parking knocks. BTW, an Evoque is on the limit length-wise here in NYC for street parking.
Why anybody living in London would even consider one baffles me
As another ex-Wimpey civil engineer (hello Tiff), this isn't the vehicle which my former employer would buy for their workforce. It's an urban SUV with off road capabilities. Most construction companies would buy it for their Directors and senior managers. It's also totally unsuited for serious overland travel. Maybe it's a great vehicle but aimed at a completely different market to its predecessor.
Progress isn't always a good thing, it's not what a defender, or series Land Rover was meant to be. Great review though shame car programs don't have more Tiffs and less comedians.
l know what you mean about the old Defender and series Land Rovers but these new models are aimed at a different market worldwide, you can bet the new model production run wont be nearly as long!!!!! l like a lot of people mourn the loss of the old Defender, l am waiting to see what the new 90" Commercial is like.
I was looking up why the original Landy was created this evening for some reason. Apparently, one of those reasons was that we had to ship most of the 200,000 Jeeps that the US had lent us to play around with during WWII back to the US between 1946 and 1948. Well, it was called "lend lease" I suppose. But who would have thunk it!
Who'd of thought it 👌😁
If you look in the glove box, you’ll find the alternative Discovery trims and badges.
Looks like Ineos will make a simple utility vehicle.
Nice car and great video
And hey presto, thanks to the wonders of electronic wizardry anyone can suddenly become an off-road driving legend overnight. It’s like motoring karaoke! 😂
😁👌
All the creature comforts are why they made the discovery for where as the defender was a grafter that you get in with your wellies on
Hi Darren, we have had a few comments like that.😁👌
Used to drive an old 110 defender for railway incident response, absolute dog of a car travelling 50 miles to get to the incident but fantastic once you get through the access gate, then a dog of a car driving 50 miles back to the office, I’d much prefer the new defender in that job
I see tiff immediately subscribe
Haha, welcome! 😁👍
grandpa... you are different and unique than any other car reviewers.
auto subscribe !
I do totally admire this man! And - the best New Defender video coverage for me.
Nice to see someone reviewing the car for what it is.
😁👍
I like to see a long term test of the Defender.
They daren't do that!
Through Congo!
Check out TFL then.
@@GMV8KSA mind blowing, they're on their third one and even that's looking temperamental. LR have given them a massive free upgrade on the latest one, which for me only makes things worse!
Tiff-y Bear Picnic 😁🐻🐻
Honestly I prefer the 90 with either the steel wheels or five spokes in pangea green with a white roof
It's a great legend to have.
Never thought that I will ever say this, But I love the new defender especially the long base one. I think Land rover has done a great job with this one.
I do love this car. But I'd be happy for them to reduce the cost by stripping out some gadgets and making it more utilitarian. The safety, off road capability, engines etc are all good. I don't need all the features as standard.
Glad you enjoyed the car 👌😁
Need a review of the commercial version
When we can!
Very good review thank's, this car very good suv of 2020