Lol at the people who have no clue about laying pipe. These guys are doing just fine. In a perfect world, we wouldn’t be putting pipes in the ground. We don’t live in a perfect world so…
I can guarantee you are not a pipe layer. Nothing wrong with the machine at all. Even has an Engcon steel wrist with tongs, that’s a step up than a plain Jane excavator. You dig with a grading bucket because it leaves a smoother finish. You don’t always need a bucket with teeth. Also, the grading bucket makes dumping stone easier. People who don’t do this type of work see a grading bucket digging and think it should have teeth on it when it doesn’t need a bucket with teeth. A grading bucket will dig just as good as a digging bucket if the soil is like this. Also, when digging around other utilities, a grading bucket is used to minimize the chance of damage to existing utilities. Been in this game a long time.
@@mikeznel6048 Not long enough to see a good operator then. GP buckets can also leave a very good finish, almost the same as a mud bucket if the operator takes any form of pride in their work
They closed our site for a week last year while the police and HSE investigated the death of a pipe layer crushed to death in a trench just like that. My mate dug his lifeless body out with a shovel, there was blood everywhere. People will be going to prison over it. Why no trench support here?
@@TheFifalicker ur response is weird..u agreed.. Which is correct...they do need support here...if he dug 30 that would be a different video... But in this one they are dare dummies
@@scottking9939 like in court u dont get to argue whats later… we are talking about someone dying (allegedly)and then these people coming right back and being in a situation, even if its for a brief time, without proper shoring… thats why a company can get fined for old pictures of them not doing the right thing…
This is honestly painful to watch , should be labeled how not to put in a sewage pipe , no grade check, hit concrete pipe with bucket, pull previous pipe out of grade, poor communication between ground crew and operator.
He did check his grade, he is using a pipe laser. You can see his beam when they are digging out(he kept checking it with his shovel), and also his target sitting on top of the pipe at the end of the video. His grade must have been a hair high, which is why the excavator pushed down on the top of the pipe. When they hooked both joints and lifted them it was to home the pipe. Other than being extremely slow I don't see where they went wrong.
@@Infurnas You’re the only person in this comment section that knows what he’s talking about. The rest of these people played farm sim and think they know equipment. Grading buckets are great for digging and stoning.
These guys are doing just fine. No need for a digging bucket, grading bucket is just fine for this job. Look at the soil? Why do they need a digging bucket? You don’t hog it out like a mad man when you’re trying to keep a grade. You open it up quick then dial it back to get it on grade. These guys have a great system going and are moving along plenty fast enough. It’s not a race. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
Probably a dumb question, but why are you using a flat bladed bucket for digging in that type of material? Seems like hard going, when you can easily change buckets?
Its a must-have for a pipeliner crew! The grading bucket makes a nicer bedding surface in the bottom of the trench. And then he can slope the walls really easily so the likes of me doesn't get crushed in a cave-in
Definitely needs a digging bucket with teeth , losing to much power with the rotary tilt as it is and you can easily slope the banks with no roto tilt and pulling digging bucket flat on the bottom of the trench will leave it plenty good for bedding
Definitely not a necessity but if you have it, why wouldn’t you use it? Besides, they don’t just come off like a quick disconnect bucket… Plus, the tongs are an incredible tool.
@@strangefruit8776 ...oh? no shit. I've heard of ppl doing that, never seen it though. Yeah I guess if you don't need to grade out foundation stone that makes sense. Good stuff.
Yeah if you look closely you’ll see the beam every now and then. They make special lasers that you put in the pipe or a manhole and you can set the pitch of fall or rise from level plane and aim them in a straight line down the pipe. Then you use a little target that sits inside the end of the pipe you just laid to check and see if it’s on each time you lay a new joint. You can also mark your distance from flowline to bottom of pipe on a rake so that your ditch hand can fine grade and check grade with the rake he’s using before you set the pipe in. It’s a good idea though to at least check your work with a normal laser at some point so you know your pipe laser is putting you where you need to be.
At about 5:44 you can see him checking his grade with his shovel. We generally use a rake with the offset distance marked on it with a piece of tape to check the ditch bottom with.
@@strangefruit8776 Cool. What part of the country yall in? Looks pretty rocky. I'm in New Orleans so past like a foot or so its generally straight clay lol.
@@rustydumper Greta work and the right bucket. People who don’t do this think you need a bucket with teeth, digging bucket, to dig. That is not correct. Especially in the underground utility world. Grading bucket dogs smoother and lessens the chance of damage to existing utilities around the new installation. Grading bucket also gives you better control while stoning. These guys are a well working team and the operator knows what he is doing and is very smooth. It’s easy to pick out people who don’t do this work when they call a grading bucket a ditching bucket.
@@mikeznel6048 lol I do this for a living, it's the wrong bucket, look at the state of the trench. With a toothed bucket you don't end up with a trench looking like a 4 year old dug it plus there isn't a whole lot of communication between ground and operator thus bad practice. A good ground guy can tell when he's near to a pipe run just by assessing the ground, between that guy and a competent engineer it's not that difficult.
Do your pipes already come with those connections where you attached the chains to transport it??? Here we do use kind of long metal U turned on it's side that goes inside and outside the pipe.
That’s a good operator right there.
Lol at the people who have no clue about laying pipe. These guys are doing just fine. In a perfect world, we wouldn’t be putting pipes in the ground. We don’t live in a perfect world so…
Only One guy doing all the work..no one helping him
Faster that way
Can’t fit two guys in the same spot.
That flat blade on that bucket it irritating for some reason
Civils for ya. Main contractor probably doesn't allow teeth (regardless of services being present or not)
I can garuntee you this guy is payed per hour ! Nee holland excavator, with a ditch bucket taking out half bucket fulls of material
I can guarantee you are not a pipe layer. Nothing wrong with the machine at all. Even has an Engcon steel wrist with tongs, that’s a step up than a plain Jane excavator. You dig with a grading bucket because it leaves a smoother finish. You don’t always need a bucket with teeth. Also, the grading bucket makes dumping stone easier. People who don’t do this type of work see a grading bucket digging and think it should have teeth on it when it doesn’t need a bucket with teeth. A grading bucket will dig just as good as a digging bucket if the soil is like this. Also, when digging around other utilities, a grading bucket is used to minimize the chance of damage to existing utilities. Been in this game a long time.
@@mikeznel6048 Not long enough to see a good operator then. GP buckets can also leave a very good finish, almost the same as a mud bucket if the operator takes any form of pride in their work
Moving in turtle mode lol
Tired ass machine lol
Great job!! Don't need 3 guys in a trench. Just a laborer and a operator.
They closed our site for a week last year while the police and HSE investigated the death of a pipe layer crushed to death in a trench just like that. My mate dug his lifeless body out with a shovel, there was blood everywhere. People will be going to prison over it. Why no trench support here?
I agree with you, but no trench supports is needed here, he could just make the side walls with more angle, like 30% instead of 70%.
@@TheFifalicker ur response is weird..u agreed.. Which is correct...they do need support here...if he dug 30 that would be a different video... But in this one they are dare dummies
@@FreethemGuyz haha yes its weird. Ofcourse trench support is needed.
If you look at the rest of the run the trench is benched ans safe for the layer to work without shoring
@@scottking9939 like in court u dont get to argue whats later… we are talking about someone dying (allegedly)and then these people coming right back and being in a situation, even if its for a brief time, without proper shoring… thats why a company can get fined for old pictures of them not doing the right thing…
I was waiting for that pipe layer to get crushed, never stand in a pinch point. Worst pipe crew ever
I heard there almost over the hill now
Quit banging the fucking bucket every time god that drives me nuts
Good job...that's awesome
what sealant did you use ?
Screwdriver useless OP... fuck me this is painful to watch
Grease that machine! Jesus
I've never seen this excavator.
That attachment is awesome 😍
Great video.
Do this for a living its my calling.
Hacks gonna hack
I like how your sloping those banks to keep your pipeman safe,now get that good pipe in the ground.😂🤘
What a typical work week for these workers? Do they work alot of hours?
When I did it you would work 50 to 70 hours a week depending on the job
I do 40 hours on pipes and thats enough
What was that shovel grading 😂
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a 305!?!? how cute
This is honestly painful to watch , should be labeled how not to put in a sewage pipe , no grade check, hit concrete pipe with bucket, pull previous pipe out of grade, poor communication between ground crew and operator.
He did check his grade, he is using a pipe laser. You can see his beam when they are digging out(he kept checking it with his shovel), and also his target sitting on top of the pipe at the end of the video. His grade must have been a hair high, which is why the excavator pushed down on the top of the pipe. When they hooked both joints and lifted them it was to home the pipe. Other than being extremely slow I don't see where they went wrong.
no mortar collar??
No rock box? No bucket teeth? No hook man up top? Slower than molasses
damn i remember when i first wore a red hard hat
No cutting blade on the side of the bucket either for the wall
If there is a chance of underground services you never dig with a Toothed bucket
@@Infurnas You’re the only person in this comment section that knows what he’s talking about. The rest of these people played farm sim and think they know equipment. Grading buckets are great for digging and stoning.
These guys are doing just fine. No need for a digging bucket, grading bucket is just fine for this job. Look at the soil? Why do they need a digging bucket? You don’t hog it out like a mad man when you’re trying to keep a grade. You open it up quick then dial it back to get it on grade. These guys have a great system going and are moving along plenty fast enough. It’s not a race. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
What is art ? 🤔
Bra jobbat gubbar!
Dagum how do people like this stay in business???
👍👍👍
Probably a dumb question, but why are you using a flat bladed bucket for digging in that type of material? Seems like hard going, when you can easily change buckets?
We have a saying for that, all the gear and no idea. Hes probably not paying for the cutting edges.
Because they’re hacks
Y’all hiring? Miss doing this
Ncc is a nordic team. Gr8 job brothers
how to preform Hydraulic joint test of concrete drain pipe size 1000mm
Slow workerss
Awesome video!
The articulating bucket is cool but not necessary for this job. Also, why not use a toothed bucked?
Its a must-have for a pipeliner crew! The grading bucket makes a nicer bedding surface in the bottom of the trench. And then he can slope the walls really easily so the likes of me doesn't get crushed in a cave-in
Definitely needs a digging bucket with teeth , losing to much power with the rotary tilt as it is and you can easily slope the banks with no roto tilt and pulling digging bucket flat on the bottom of the trench will leave it plenty good for bedding
@@conormoranirl leveling your trench with the bottom of your bucket in that type of soil will wear the bottom out quickly.
@@JesusBltMyHtRd No you don't, you have never driven one so why would you know
Definitely not a necessity but if you have it, why wouldn’t you use it? Besides, they don’t just come off like a quick disconnect bucket… Plus, the tongs are an incredible tool.
What’s the red laser for
Elevation
Keep everything straight and at grade
That was so painful to watch. Would never hire these clowns
Which is why you’re not a boss and don’t own an underground utility company.
Nice
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw. you are the man
No rubber gasket ?!
Impulse reaction the gasket is inside the pipe 👍
@@luisbedoy1607 he pretty clearly put pipe lubricant on the spigot end. You can see the rubber gasket inside the bell.
🌧️🌧️👍
You guys look like you're out in the middle of nowhere so I won't ask you where the hell your level is
Charles Murry their laser? It’s in the pipe.
@@strangefruit8776 ...oh? no shit. I've heard of ppl doing that, never seen it though. Yeah I guess if you don't need to grade out foundation stone that makes sense. Good stuff.
Yeah if you look closely you’ll see the beam every now and then. They make special lasers that you put in the pipe or a manhole and you can set the pitch of fall or rise from level plane and aim them in a straight line down the pipe. Then you use a little target that sits inside the end of the pipe you just laid to check and see if it’s on each time you lay a new joint. You can also mark your distance from flowline to bottom of pipe on a rake so that your ditch hand can fine grade and check grade with the rake he’s using before you set the pipe in. It’s a good idea though to at least check your work with a normal laser at some point so you know your pipe laser is putting you where you need to be.
At about 5:44 you can see him checking his grade with his shovel. We generally use a rake with the offset distance marked on it with a piece of tape to check the ditch bottom with.
@@strangefruit8776 Cool. What part of the country yall in? Looks pretty rocky. I'm in New Orleans so past like a foot or so its generally straight clay lol.
good work
Shit work, wrong bucket 👍
@@rustydumper Greta work and the right bucket. People who don’t do this think you need a bucket with teeth, digging bucket, to dig. That is not correct. Especially in the underground utility world. Grading bucket dogs smoother and lessens the chance of damage to existing utilities around the new installation. Grading bucket also gives you better control while stoning. These guys are a well working team and the operator knows what he is doing and is very smooth. It’s easy to pick out people who don’t do this work when they call a grading bucket a ditching bucket.
@@mikeznel6048 lol I do this for a living, it's the wrong bucket, look at the state of the trench. With a toothed bucket you don't end up with a trench looking like a 4 year old dug it plus there isn't a whole lot of communication between ground and operator thus bad practice. A good ground guy can tell when he's near to a pipe run just by assessing the ground, between that guy and a competent engineer it's not that difficult.
you need a tailman
and a topman
Do your pipes already come with those connections where you attached the chains to transport it???
Here we do use kind of long metal U turned on it's side that goes inside and outside the pipe.