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Fun fact: Any transformer can be a chia pet if you cover it with glue, stick chia seeds on it, water it, and put it in the sun! Thats right! Even the 1985/6 playable g1 soundwave cassette player! Wild, right??
I REALLY LIKE PERSPECTIVE's design for the podcast the canadian ass coat, the whiteshirt underneath that is very hard to recognise, the sort of hunch back look, the logo head and the red eyes from the shorts i really love it so much
True but the fact that him and brains were able to take out the mothership that way, and the fact that wheelie and brains were able to pilot one of the ships to get up there shows that they are at least pretty crafty, and I feel like that gives wheelie a bit of an advantage over armada laserbeak
@@LEGONERD06agreed laser beak has an areal advantage, but I don’t think laser beak ever uses his weaponry while in bird mode in armada (I could be fully wrong I looked at the wiki and didn’t really see a mention of him doing that) and I feel like if they were both on the ground which if laserbeak can’t shoot he would have to do dive towards wheelie to attack him, I feel like wheelie could probably do some damage to him
Nah bro, the Maximals just imparted Beast Wars rules on Mirage. Where you can get blown into several dozen pieces with your head detached from your torso and get perfectly restored the next scene.
Episode topic idea: the Back Kibble Boys engage in a competition to see who has the hottest take on the franchise. Perspective would easily win, but Jake and Brian could surprise us.
I would say there are ways around and inbuilt weaponry and make it stop being a narrative problem, transformers animated and idw came up with two ideas I think we're really well, Stasis cuffs (animated) and Inhibitor chips (idw) are perfect ways to stop them from using inbuilt weaponry and yet not making them completely defenseless
I love Sky-Byte but he’s the equivalent one of the villains Rita Repulsa’s group of boss monsters in power rangers. Just barely above monster of the week villains. Gets to hang out and take orders from the Real villian, a couple ranks lower than Goldar.
My biggest issue with gun hands is that it makes no sense to be a natural component, especially considering that those who existed before the war have them. I can only think of 2 possible reasons for this existing 1. They arent natural, and they were integrated by outside sources for the war. This doesnt really work, since i doubt that anyone would choose trying to individually integrate weapons in a way that matches the individual anatomy of each soldier over just normal guns 2. They are natural, and they can turn their hands into anything they want, and before the war they were sed as tools. This also makes no sense, considering that no one ever turns their hands into anything but their guns
Nothing about the Cybertronian race is natural, they are either made by The good robot god or the guys with 5 personalities. The Cybertronian race was made to fight Unicron, and there are other threats throughout the multiverse too. There are many instances of them having power tools for hands, including Generation 1. I am not trying to be elitist but how are you going to speak on Transformer lore if you have not watched G1, Prime, Animated, Cyberverse, Rescue Bots, Rescue Bots academy, or undoubtedly several others?
@gerald2508 and for the record, I have seen the shows you're referring to In g1, yes, they have tool hands, but not gun hands. Also, only part of the cybertronian race was built by the quintessons for battle, and I don't think they mentioned specifically who they were fighting, but I doubt it was unicron Animated has neither tool hands nor gun hands, so I don't know why it needed to be mentioned. But in that show, there are no quintessons, primus, or unicron, and cybertronions don't really have a definitive origin to my knowledge Prime has gun hands, no tool hands, and doesn't give an explination for where the gun hands came from to my memory. As for RB and academy, they have no reason to be mentioned here. They technically have tool hands, but those were made of energon, not components of their bodies, and neither show really talks about where the cybertronions came from, and there's certainly no mention of them being made entirely for warring purposes. So again, I ask, where are you getting this idea that idea of cyberionians being only war machines at first
@@vaggos2003 I love the Fusion Cannon, the Ion Blaster, Shoulder Cannons, I love all that stuff. It's just if they can freely swap part of their bodies for it at will that I start to hate it.
Don’t quite understand PE’s argument about built-in weapons. If the argument is that you can’t really disarm them, what about just putting someone in an electrical cybertronian whatever restraint that electrocutes the limb so it can’t transform? Or physically preventing the limb FROM transforming? If your arm has to expand outwards to transform, wouldn’t a restraint prevent that? Or just pulling out the weapon from their body? We know it can be done since that sort of happened to Animated Ratchet.
Well one of the problems with it is that there's no point where they state that it's only the hands, and we've seen cybertronians who turn their heads into guns. So a Physical block may not even function. However beyond that if you say have a pair of hand cuffs that can do that, then everyone needs to be carrying a pair, otherwise no one can take prisoners. Then if say the prisoner escapes their hand cuffs, they are back to being fully armed instantly. They don't have to fight someone to gain control of a weapon. They just have one. I have even more reasons for not liking it, but I don't want to slam you with even more of a diatribe than I already have.
@@PerspectiveEnd They have very powerful scanners in most continuities to tell them what to bind. Then hack them, this has the natural drawback of interfacing with the enemy. You can use the non-availability of stasis cuffs to illustrate the escalation of the war. The brutality of having to mutilate your prisoners because you cannot otherwise guarantee their passivity is great. This allows a moral choice between crippling the captives or risking your soldiers. Just have the integrated weapons be unable to kill anyone, in a practical situation, so that the disarmed are still at a disadvantage.
Finally see the face of Perspective one i applaud your comical honestly and if he reacts to something he doesn't like he brings the vitamins of PAIN!!!!😂 Good to see you take care.
I've been on camera several times before. My 1K, 2K, and 3K celebrations, along with a QnA, and my Transformers Prime Review, and Kingdom Rodimus Prime review.
There were swords that covered the entire hand and guarded part of the forearm. They weren't used much (cuz they weren't great) but they did exist I think they had one in Time Bandits? Correct me if im wrong
Obviously just about any kind of thing you can think up is going to exist, they even had pickaxes like that, but the point is what is the weapon that lasted, it's a sword.
24:07it can't be Unicron in rise of the beast because in transformer the last night it was established that Earth was Unicron you know the whole end credit scene at least if they're not stay within continuity
BEST THINGS IN ER SEASON 2 - theres cosmos..... - cosmos is voiced by weird al..... - tarantulas isint butchered like starscream and breakdown - uhmm... aftermath has a cool design... kindof..... - i like the quinetsson story... that was interesting... - some of the comedy was funny - i appreciate my filipino repesentation - the optimus prime episode wad fun... Worst things in earspark season 2 - ITS MID AS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK, look i understand if you like the season i did when i first watched it but now when i look at it the only episode i ever rewatch IS THE COSMOS AND THE OPTIMUS PRIME EPISODE BECAUSE THOSE ARE ACTUALLY FUNNY arcee is around she might aswell not even exist due to her litterally having NO LINES THEY BUTCHER THE IDEA THAT SOME CONS COULD BE GOOD (PLEASE GOD TARANTULAS STAY THE SAME) AND OVERALL..... its forgettable... its not good itd not bad... its just mid.....
My god dude no one cares about the fucking logic of arm weapons. They are still fucking cool and they are robots, it is literally a common robot trope, like shut up my god! Besides both ways of holding weapons are badass, it is not a objective fact that arm weapons are bad :/
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G1 predacons against g1 seacons
Unicorn vs the Death Star
Wreck-Gar (G1 with comic abilities) vs (animated) Lockdown?
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho are you asking for him to die?
@@BackKibblePodcast peak unicron trilogy megatron vs frieza
Earthspark S2 was animated by the "Megamind 2" guys?!! Holy shit that's why it felt so off and wrong 💀
Not good writing in season 2
idk why but that intro makes me wanna see these 3 play minecraft
Same
Like the ai presidents!
Hey, did you know that legacy united deluxe class cyberverse universe chromia’s head looks like a-
Fun fact: Any transformer can be a chia pet if you cover it with glue, stick chia seeds on it, water it, and put it in the sun! Thats right! Even the 1985/6 playable g1 soundwave cassette player!
Wild, right??
This fr the crossover of the century 😭 never thought I’d see Jake and TFfan interacting it’s pretty fun
Which jake?
@@charjrperalta1658 DumbJake lol
I REALLY LIKE PERSPECTIVE's design for the podcast the canadian ass coat, the whiteshirt underneath that is very hard to recognise, the sort of hunch back look, the logo head and the red eyes from the shorts i really love it so much
I don't know it's a Canadian ass coat, it's just a bathrobe.
@@PerspectiveEnd EXACTLY IM A DUMBASS-.... yeah...
Fun fact
Animated sky-byte exists
Yeah but he was just a Lugnut repaint for the potential of a botcon toy
His hat is also wrong, and I have no idea why Derrick did that @@ParadoxFree
I did not have "Perspective end references deadliest warrior" in my bingo sheet for this...
Now he has to talk about the Talinan vs the IRA.
thats a classic episode
If Brian's the Kreo guy, then who's the Build to Rule guy?
Also Brian
What about the Construct Bots guy?
Build to Rule guy is tjomega
@@deborahdavid585'insert plastic addict theme song here'
You guys should have either a yt poll or Google form to get new video ideas
Maybe! I've had more ideas since this got recorded but if I run out again I may do this
Movie wheelie with brains took out a mother ship in dark of the moon, I feel like wheelie could beat laserbeak
Yeah they took it out by fucking with the controls and making it crash they didnt punch a hole in its hull or something
True but the fact that him and brains were able to take out the mothership that way, and the fact that wheelie and brains were able to pilot one of the ships to get up there shows that they are at least pretty crafty, and I feel like that gives wheelie a bit of an advantage over armada laserbeak
@@munchies8244 i can see ur reasoning but counterpoint: laserbeak flies and (assuming he still has acces to it in robot mode) has a Gun for a face
@@LEGONERD06agreed laser beak has an areal advantage, but I don’t think laser beak ever uses his weaponry while in bird mode in armada (I could be fully wrong I looked at the wiki and didn’t really see a mention of him doing that) and I feel like if they were both on the ground which if laserbeak can’t shoot he would have to do dive towards wheelie to attack him, I feel like wheelie could probably do some damage to him
In the case that laser beak does has access to his weaponry in bird mode I would agree that laser beak would beat wheelie
Wait you mean he’s not actually purple?
Transformers the things known for their toys mainly as a podcast were they’ve barely talking about toys at least transforming ones
We're built different (but we do have a toys based episode recorded)
Nah bro, the Maximals just imparted Beast Wars rules on Mirage.
Where you can get blown into several dozen pieces with your head detached from your torso and get perfectly restored the next scene.
Jake Paul is the boxer, Logan Paul is the Wwe wrestler
And we all equally don’t care about them lol
And they're both extremely unlikable dickheads.
10/10 yapping session, love you guys
I am very tempted to make a slander video of this because of the amount of meme and quote-able moments in this
If you do tag me
@@BackKibblePodcast bet
I'd love to see it.
i love watching 3 manchidren arguing about random shit
*important random shit
This is why we all love the Internet.
Episode topic idea: the Back Kibble Boys engage in a competition to see who has the hottest take on the franchise. Perspective would easily win, but Jake and Brian could surprise us.
We didn't record that, but we did record a Hottakes episode in general.
I would say there are ways around and inbuilt weaponry and make it stop being a narrative problem, transformers animated and idw came up with two ideas I think we're really well, Stasis cuffs (animated) and Inhibitor chips (idw) are perfect ways to stop them from using inbuilt weaponry and yet not making them completely defenseless
That requires the characters to have Stasis Cuffs, and if they come off they are back to full ability. They don't have to hunt down a weapon.
@@PerspectiveEndJust have handheld weapons be more powerful.
Truth be told, I don’t even know 100% if rotf wheelie would win a fight against a real big bird.
Tbh that picture of perspective end is probably what would of happened( lore accurate perspective end)
What a chaotic episode.
7:43 someone needs to tell prespective stripmining is still effective. You just got to be even lower
Also sunstreaker would easily take on the sun
I was literally at Bedrock level.
@@PerspectiveEnd oh………
Dinobot I think is a great example of built in weapons with stakes: the ammo is his own Energon reserves
HOLY CRAP,MINCERAFT IN THE BENINGING???22
Can't wait for Perspective to realize that the Megamind sequel series actually came out...
A cool idea for an episode could be trying to draw characters from memory
I love Sky-Byte but he’s the equivalent one of the villains Rita Repulsa’s group of boss monsters in power rangers. Just barely above monster of the week villains. Gets to hang out and take orders from the Real villian, a couple ranks lower than Goldar.
perspective looks like a character from the boys
Is that a compliment?
@@PerspectiveEnd i don’t know
I remember Starscream also having cluster bombs in G1
No needed effort
Haiku are really easy
PerspectiveEnd right
Just because you can make one easily doesn't mean it's a bad format.
Dissing a Haiku,
Using Another Haiku.
A Beautiful Thing.
gargling ballsack
continuing this section
i have erection
(idk why i made this)
Thumbnail is based
I agree with Perspective End on Mike Tyson beating the shit out of the Paul brothers.
49:33
I shall do as you command
The IDW rainmakers vrs 50 auto troopers
Love the dating intro, dropped my iq at least a dozen points
Stripmining is absolutely still viable!
My biggest issue with gun hands is that it makes no sense to be a natural component, especially considering that those who existed before the war have them. I can only think of 2 possible reasons for this existing
1. They arent natural, and they were integrated by outside sources for the war. This doesnt really work, since i doubt that anyone would choose trying to individually integrate weapons in a way that matches the individual anatomy of each soldier over just normal guns
2. They are natural, and they can turn their hands into anything they want, and before the war they were sed as tools. This also makes no sense, considering that no one ever turns their hands into anything but their guns
That's a great point, why would a species have inbuilt guns as part of their natural bodies.
@@PerspectiveEnd They were made to fight Unicron.
Nothing about the Cybertronian race is natural, they are either made by The good robot god or the guys with 5 personalities.
The Cybertronian race was made to fight Unicron, and there are other threats throughout the multiverse too.
There are many instances of them having power tools for hands, including Generation 1. I am not trying to be elitist but how are you going to speak on Transformer lore if you have not watched G1, Prime, Animated, Cyberverse, Rescue Bots, Rescue Bots academy, or undoubtedly several others?
@gerald2508 in what continuity has it been directly stated that cybertronions were specifically made to fight unicron
@gerald2508 and for the record, I have seen the shows you're referring to
In g1, yes, they have tool hands, but not gun hands. Also, only part of the cybertronian race was built by the quintessons for battle, and I don't think they mentioned specifically who they were fighting, but I doubt it was unicron
Animated has neither tool hands nor gun hands, so I don't know why it needed to be mentioned. But in that show, there are no quintessons, primus, or unicron, and cybertronions don't really have a definitive origin to my knowledge
Prime has gun hands, no tool hands, and doesn't give an explination for where the gun hands came from to my memory.
As for RB and academy, they have no reason to be mentioned here. They technically have tool hands, but those were made of energon, not components of their bodies, and neither show really talks about where the cybertronions came from, and there's certainly no mention of them being made entirely for warring purposes.
So again, I ask, where are you getting this idea that idea of cyberionians being only war machines at first
29:20 Toa Tahu Mata clear, not even Nuva version
32:52 in G1 shockwave can use his gun arm too weld and use as like a tool
Hold up… perspective plays Minecraft?
yeh,i play with him sometime
@@DaLegoMan. nice
Not currently, since reinstalling Windows I don't have it any more.
@@PerspectiveEnd oh okay
Does PE hate optimus’ energon axe?
Yes, I think he said that last episode? We were baffled
I do not care for it no.
@@PerspectiveEndWhat are your thouggts on the other iconic Transformers weapons?
@@vaggos2003 I love the Fusion Cannon, the Ion Blaster, Shoulder Cannons, I love all that stuff.
It's just if they can freely swap part of their bodies for it at will that I start to hate it.
had to watch on youtube so i could switch to 1.5x everytime perspectiveend talked. it feels unnatural hearing him talk at human speeds
Kre-o aka failed lego rival.
Still better then megablocks tho.
Perspective solos all of Japan.
No Diff
Like America did back in day….
Don’t quite understand PE’s argument about built-in weapons. If the argument is that you can’t really disarm them, what about just putting someone in an electrical cybertronian whatever restraint that electrocutes the limb so it can’t transform? Or physically preventing the limb FROM transforming? If your arm has to expand outwards to transform, wouldn’t a restraint prevent that? Or just pulling out the weapon from their body? We know it can be done since that sort of happened to Animated Ratchet.
Well one of the problems with it is that there's no point where they state that it's only the hands, and we've seen cybertronians who turn their heads into guns.
So a Physical block may not even function.
However beyond that if you say have a pair of hand cuffs that can do that, then everyone needs to be carrying a pair, otherwise no one can take prisoners.
Then if say the prisoner escapes their hand cuffs, they are back to being fully armed instantly. They don't have to fight someone to gain control of a weapon. They just have one.
I have even more reasons for not liking it, but I don't want to slam you with even more of a diatribe than I already have.
@@PerspectiveEnd
They have very powerful scanners in most continuities to tell them what to bind.
Then hack them, this has the natural drawback of interfacing with the enemy.
You can use the non-availability of stasis cuffs to illustrate the escalation of the war. The brutality of having to mutilate your prisoners because you cannot otherwise guarantee their passivity is great.
This allows a moral choice between crippling the captives or risking your soldiers. Just have the integrated weapons be unable to kill anyone, in a practical situation, so that the disarmed are still at a disadvantage.
Hear me out G1 Nightbird vs animated prowl.
If u take g1 durability srsly and consistently, nightbird
Otherwise, prowl anyday of the week
i am still watching the video on how Dumbjake sucks, congradulations :]
btw, loving the podcast so far
Finally see the face of Perspective one i applaud your comical honestly and if he reacts to something he doesn't like he brings the vitamins of PAIN!!!!😂 Good to see you take care.
I've been on camera several times before.
My 1K, 2K, and 3K celebrations, along with a QnA, and my Transformers Prime Review, and Kingdom Rodimus Prime review.
Did perspective end ever have a face reveal on his channel because i swear in the antire run time of his channel i have never seen his face before.
@@Gigi4u yep his 1,000 subscriber special
@@BackKibblePodcast thank you
1K Sub Special, 2K, 3K, I did a QNA, and I was on for the Start of the Kingdom Rodimus video, and the Start of my Transformers Prime Review.
There were swords that covered the entire hand and guarded part of the forearm. They weren't used much (cuz they weren't great) but they did exist
I think they had one in Time Bandits? Correct me if im wrong
Obviously just about any kind of thing you can think up is going to exist, they even had pickaxes like that, but the point is what is the weapon that lasted, it's a sword.
49:30 I'm still watching and know about how Dumb Jake sucks 😂
My death match is Waspinator vs G1 Wreck-Gar
Jake is such a Bayverse kid lmao
Starscream in beastwars has basically super speed because he is a jet ( even if he possesses waspinator body for some reason )
Dumb Jake sucks or something. Idk I just watched the video
Perspective End vs Animated
Minecraft 0:12
24:07it can't be Unicron in rise of the beast because in transformer the last night it was established that Earth was Unicron you know the whole end credit scene at least if they're not stay within continuity
... Dumb jake sucks... I'm listening, but I'm also folding laundry and doing dishes.
Dumb Jake Sucks
Transmetal Tarantulas vs Shockwave
Skybyte vs Waspinator
I didn't see the whole thing just yet, but did you guys mention any of the Transformers Death Battle episodes in this video?
BEST THINGS IN ER SEASON 2
- theres cosmos.....
- cosmos is voiced by weird al.....
- tarantulas isint butchered like starscream and breakdown
- uhmm... aftermath has a cool design... kindof.....
- i like the quinetsson story... that was interesting...
- some of the comedy was funny
- i appreciate my filipino repesentation
- the optimus prime episode wad fun...
Worst things in earspark season 2
- ITS MID AS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK, look i understand if you like the season i did when i first watched it but now when i look at it the only episode i ever rewatch IS THE COSMOS AND THE OPTIMUS PRIME EPISODE BECAUSE THOSE ARE ACTUALLY FUNNY arcee is around she might aswell not even exist due to her litterally having NO LINES THEY BUTCHER THE IDEA THAT SOME CONS COULD BE GOOD (PLEASE GOD TARANTULAS STAY THE SAME) AND OVERALL..... its forgettable... its not good itd not bad... its just mid.....
Shockwave Tfa skin?
@@MC_73 yup :D
Fun podcast.
Perspective was actually wrong about megamind. Yes the movie was a pilot, but the 1st season of the show was already made and released
Hell Yeah!
You should make a transformers hot takes video
What's funny is that was the one we recorded today before you made this comment.
AWESOME!!!@@PerspectiveEnd
I am still watching.
Today it looks like PE is evil
I look like I'm in the fires of perdition.
PE, is cool as fuck. .( rare sighting) . . for real this is a good though
Thank you kindly.
As a RotB Mirage simp I do not approve of the RotB Mirage slander 😤
Funny and fun video keep up the good work and remember jesus loves you all god bless
TFanPage101 should join the Kool Kreo Klub 😎👍
What happened to being ratioed?What the f*** is that from?
What?
Ih heb en goede titelweva vs broodeside
Dbjakeismediocre
Dumbjack sucks jk just a joke
My god dude no one cares about the fucking logic of arm weapons. They are still fucking cool and they are robots, it is literally a common robot trope, like shut up my god!
Besides both ways of holding weapons are badass, it is not a objective fact that arm weapons are bad :/
Don't worry we downvoted
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Oh my golly gosh a minceraft server!!1!!!11!
Also is the server for bedrock or Java?
Java