The Tenno had survived being retconned by Ballas, only to be brought back by themselves but from A timeline where they didn’t escape Zariman, to which the Tenno from A timeline where it didn’t escape Zariman restarts the Tenno’s omnipresence… My brain hurts…
How I imagine the fight to go. Rhino, standing at one end of the room, Slayer, stadning at the opposite end. Then suddenly a massive explosion from god know what because Slayer just moves that fast, everything absolutely destroyed, everything around dead. And as the dust settles, they just..stand there in the same exact spots, not even a single scratch on either of them, because both of them just refuse to die.
@@rans0mware the man in the wall killed off every single tenno in every timeline they die.... so they cannot exist in a timeline were they die. combining that with the crusible blade, i dont know how that would work.
I think it would go something like this; Doomguy meets Rhino, tries to kill him because Rhino looks a little like a demon but just cant kill him. Then they agree to just rip and tear together.
@@Mnogotochie Lore Doomslayer is the purest definition of OP, but if we completely untether to gameplay then the argument becomes more a "my dad could beat up your dad" slap fight, because warframes and specifically lore Rhino are also scary as hell and killed their own share of previously thought immortal beings.
They could fight... for a while... like a few days, if not more. Then the tenno being the brat that they are could pop out of the frame and say "Hey, you working for the orokin or the man in the wall?" Then the DG could go like *grunts in confusion* And the Tenno could be like "Say less fam", throws a peace sign, calls ordis to send their Liset and A pose out of the fight. Leaving the DG scratching his head *grunts in even more confusion* Then the murmur and the infected show up cuz they smelled the Tenno/Warframe, and the DG *grunts happily* being back in his element. Or something like that. Ordis could probably ask the Tenno "Who was that" the tenno, being all smug answers "Someone's else problem"
@@CupidSmurf657 kuva liches and sisters of parvos, both are immortal where after dead can come back, unless the parazon is used with the correct albrecht mods
Not even going to try to make reason of Rhino’s stomp at all, but as a general topic, based on theory of general relativity, mass translates to gravity which translates to spacetime curve which translates to slower time.
Rhino just does an infinite mass stomp which causes a miniature black hole to form just like a cavitation bubble that pistol shrimps make the black hole causes space time to get warped which makes things slow-this is my theory
The concept of time in the Warframe universe is incredibly convoluted even by sci-fi standards. Any scientific theory in our reality literally cannot be applied to Warframe.
Time is vaguely described once by a character deeply in the know of how it works as a string, with each individual thread being their own timeline and yet the same reality. It’s pretty stupid if I’m being frank.
I find both scenarios hillarious: 1: Doom Guy casually mulches Rhino with the crucible and the fight is over instantly 2: Doom Guy swings the Crucible with his signature infinite strength only for it to stop on Rhino's body because him aggressively rolling around to maintain triple immortality.
I don't think you fully considered that the Operator comes in clutch in other ways then extra immortality. With Magnus lockdown and the Madurai focus, they can spam void sling and trap Doomslayer in place. Plus with an Operator you're basically fighting 2 beings at once, both of which are godlike in power.
They just dont know how to play Rhino. The Warframe youtuber brainrot of "five million ironskin, but you have to bend over backwards to get it" is ruining their ability to see that Rhino isn't meant to be played like Revenant.
@@kvab24 I mean Rhino really only has Iron Skin and Roar. most WF RUclipsrs usually build their Rhino with the "Parasitic Armor + Rhino Charge into 50 bajillion enemies" setup, when you could just build him for ability strength and use Iron Skin as a reactionary tool. It's much better to use it this way because with the Jade Eximus unit you get 2m+ iron skin for free.
@@FerunaLutelouput defy over his 1st, and get ability strength stupid high. Roar plus the damage reflection means it can output serious damage, and adds to survival. Makes for a pretty fun and aggressive style too
As a huge lore nerd in both Doom and Warframe i legit have no idea where this fight could go, i am leaning towards the DoomSlayers side but they both have a chance.
Now I have to say, I'm not the biggest fan of the concept of VS battles or power scaling, at least from a writing standpoint, since ultimately your characters are at the mercy of the writer, as you very well pointed (thank you for that). However, I'd be lying if I said that I don't enjoy it as long as it's not taken too seriously, or for the sake of a fun conversation. So... Guap, PLEASE make this a series!!! This is honestly really fun and I want to see more videos of Warframes going up against other god-killing characters. Who knows? Maybe this will bait Nuxanor into making Warframe lore dives lol. Also, I just realized... I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure a Tenno could permanently kill the Emperor from Warhammer 40k with frightening ease... 😨
I love this way of match up. Purely for fun and being able to create narratives for how it woks. But i'd do think Doom boi would win because he killed a multiversal being and also have the power of a multiversal being. For me i think he doesn't know how to use his full potential because he essentially has the essence of Dagath in him and all of his powers. Who created everything and i do mean EVERYTHING. But then again our operator also don't know how to use their full potential just yet. Because of eternalism and that deal they made and shit. This fight is a fight of infinites "technically"
10:26 not lore but in-game knowledge: the i-frames are applicable everytime, whether your skin is up or not. If mods are canon, then you are definitely bringing piercing roar and reinforcing stomp too. One makes his enemies deal less damage, and one just replenish his immortality. We Rhino mains are just secretly doom enjoyer because their theme is quite... similar, though parazon exists, which kills literally immortal beings, but doom guy do be coming back anyways. It becomes like that certain part of Asura's Wrath where Akuma versus Asura and the fight last over 500 years and it doesn't even end.
The last time someone "killed" the Tenno, he came basically back with an older Twin (Drifter) of himself, which got the same powers as him in the end... So keep try doing that and you have probably a self multiplying army of Tennos/Drifters. Already in the "War Within" Quest, the Tenno broke the laws of Immortality and did some scetchy "time" shenanigens, to not be killed in the moment where the Older Queen uses the Scepter. Resulting in a kinda "time travel/flashback but not" (in 1 second) situatuion, gaining his original power back and resist the Queen. So even if Doomguy is stronger, it would basically end in a stalement as you already stated.
erm ok? 🤓doom slayer hasnt fought straight up hell and dark gods for eons for shit bruh, he literally tore up god's god who was the ruler of hell as well as everything else. Ur tenno goon gang aint gonna do shit
@@sciarpecyril yeah, you´re right, the Ritual of continuity. But the rest of my statement stands still, the whole "reawakening of the Tenno Power" somehow took place while the Queen was drilling into the Tennos mind.
@@lawbypass yeah sure tell that yourself Doombuddy. He killed immortal beings so what? -The Tenno aren´t immortal, they´re even pretty fragile on their own. The only instance we know of that a Tenno got killed, it basically spawned a second one through the "Event of Eternalism" and the original one got revived. It´s some kind of "multiversal" (more like space-time-versal, cause´ it´s the same universe) shenanigans. It´s pretty save to assume that Doomguy is stronger, but with a "selfmultiplying" enemy which has an arsenal of basically anything you can think of, somewhere there would be a stalemate. Rhino has a stomp so hard it stops time, Limbo can shift whole dimensions and Wisp opens a direct portal to the sun, to name a few abilities. To win, Doomslyer would need to eradicate the source of power of the Tenno first, which he probably can. The Problem is even we Warframe players don´t know what the source is. Is it "Wally" (The man in the Wall) or is it the "Void" itself. In the latter case, he would have to destroy some kind of immaterial space and worst case would be: "Wally" himself is the Void and functions like a perpetuum mobile.
this is actually really interesting it really is a good example of “Unstoppable force vs immovable object” the doom slayer can basically kill anything as long as it is alive while rhino can absorb literally anything that hits him and turn it into his defense but the doom slayer is also technically immortal/immovable i personally think that it would be an endless battle, unless rhino runs out of energy 😂 or it would be possible that they both recognize that they cant kill eachother, and that it is pointless that they fight, so instead they team up
It’s cannon that Warframes have infinite energy it’s just limited in game for playability. And mods/arcains are also cannon… Shesh imagine a warframe one shot build is technically cannon… 🥶
6:00 Based on my own interpretation of what I know of ‘99, Excalibur, often dubbed, “The First Warframe,” was made from Entrati’s experiments in ‘99 where he would infuse an engineered virus into willing participants, with Arthur developing into A more human version of Excalibur, which I interpret to Albrecht giving samples of Arthur’s newly changed Deoxy Ribo Nucleic Acid to Ballas in order to create the first batch of Warframes, with Excalibur Umbra seeming to be one of the first Dax to be injected… Correct if I’m wrong, though.
Immortality is not invulnerability. Immortality means you still take damage, but just can't be killed. Invulnerability means nothing harms you at all, not even a scratch. Iron Skin and Rolling Guard and Shield Gates are forms of invulnerability. Doom Slayer will not be able to deal any damage while that is up. Rhino pops Iron Skin, stomps when Doom Slayer attacks, that attack will grant Iron Skin, btw it takes the damage dealt and multiplies it if you go buy how it is in-game. So it'll take at least a few more hits to break. With Doom Guy slowed, or even frozen, they duke it out. However, because Rhino doesn't have the enough strength, he doesn't even scratch Doom Slayer. The only thing that might work is Rhino stomping on Doom Guy, which might damage him? And if Doom Slayer does manage to get a hit in instant between the invulnerability phases (wouldn't happen because they can be started before the previous one ends), the Tenno can appear in void form, so invulnerable, and heal Rhino by just being near him. Its an unbreakable object means infinite force situation, the whole universe gets wiped out in the aftermath. God the Warframes are too broken, we haven't even left our Star System and we've got someone who theoretically can tank the destruction of the universe and use it to make himself tankier. Also, forgive me if this is wrong, the War is a weapon designed to "kill" warframes, and that turns out to be useless so an immortal killing weapon may not be as effective as one would believe. Though the weapon mainly got its powers because it houses Hunhow who may have been able to "shut off" the warframe so its debateable whether its an immortal killing weapon or a warframe disabling weapon. Other comments just reminded me about Drifter, a being so fucking broken they created an entire dimension/world with living entities accidently, how tf do you create a dimension accidently? And then reset that dimension because you didn't like the fact that someone died and they also revived us. Except, the Drifter is also us from a different timeline, so we revived ourselves. So even if Doom Guy were somehow able to kill us, we'd quite literally just revive ourselves by having an alternate timeline version of us come save our asses. This would bypass an immortal killing weapon because it isn't our immortality that is reviving us, but rather us from a different timeline that is revive us. So a different entity. This is so confusing.
well there's one way for Rhino to just easy mode win this fight ,if he has the mod : Iron shrapnel , equipped , if he does any/all of the doom slayers dmg with be enhanced , and thrown back at him, and the doom slayer buts out far more dmg than he can tank . it was funny that During the jade shadows event , they had to nerf the green death laser , cause of rhino , tanking 100s of millions of points of dmg and throwing it all right back out
I agree that a fight between a Rhino main and Doomguy would be an endless stalemate and the only way I see this fight ending is if they both get bored and just decide to stop fighting, but I also think Doomguy probably wouldn't stop fighting, and it would just come down to the patience of the tenno controlling that Rhino
The crucible probably would have at the very least 1k damage at base without any mods lol so it'd be super powerful if any tenno got their hands on it and mod it. It also probably ALWAYS yellow crits because it would have crazy high critical chance, as well as it probably has a 3x critical damage multiplier
Limbo=win you go in another dimension, revenant=win (adaptive damege), operator=win (gose back in time throu the void, kills doom guy when hi's a baby.
The operator one would be a problem because they would have to find out Who Doom guy is first, then when and where he was born to do that within the Doom universe. All the while trying to dodge Wally snatching them up from traveling back through time within the void (which seems to be the reason why Lotus / Natah / Marguils sent the Drifter back in time instead of the Operator) . If they go too far back, they will find Doom Slayer since the guy went from the "future" into the past and was slaying demons for eons. There only saving grace is that Doom guy / Slayer wouldn't go back in time and kill the Operator when they are a kid because the dude does not get down like that. Innocence and animals he is kind to, it is the demons and those like them that suffer horrible fates.
When you revive you knock down everyone around you, so you could make a case where you revive, roll, rhino stomp immediately, then yoink the crucible and use it against its owner, alternatively you can just parazon him
The Paracesis was specifically designed by Ballas to be used by the Tenno against sentients, and then against the Tenno by Ballas.. I don't think Doomslayer fits into either of those categories..
The paracesis was made to be efficient against the sentients and to “send the devil back to hell”. The sword doesn’t do any status damage such as cold or radiation that is effective against sentients, so it’s safe to say it’s empowered by the void(void is effective against everything and the only counter to other void creations). If we assumed that void based attacks are effective against Doom Slayer, then it could potentially be used to send and trap DS in the void if a portal was present and/or kill him.
I love how videos like this are essentially "Here's my imaginary character who is also a GOD" and "Here is MY imaginary character who is literally unkillable". It's like a kids game
I'm curious how subsumes will be considered in this case as well as whether doomguy can be CCed. Cuz if subsumes can be considered and Doomguy can be CCed(ie petrified, frozen, mind controled, etc) I think Rhino would have a better chance. Banish would make the stalemate even more of a stalemate by sending Doomguy literally into a different plane of existence. Null Star's anti-matter particles cancelling out the existence of any matter on Doomguy including his own flesh(unless he's not made of matter which i doubt). CC abilities such as Petrify and Mind Control if effective can also render Doomguy completely defenseless. Not familiar with Doom lore so what i just said might be nonsense but hey.
This was a very interesting watch and an even more interesting stalemate. I don’t remember very much about DOOM lore since it has been quite a while, but I think an interesting thing to maybe think about is that Rhino does have the parazon which destroys flesh, tech, immortality, basically everything. So wouldn’t the first time that Rhino stab DoomGuy result in the rest of the fight be meaningless? As far as I recall before DoomGuy used the divinity machine he was just a crazy good marine and the machine is what made him the guy taking a murder stroll through hell for a few million years, so after he gets stabbed by the parazon wouldn’t all his abilities from the machine be nullified? Ofc the same can be said for Rhino, getting slashed by the crucible blade would remove his invincibility/immortality but then his Tenno can just revive him, assuming the blade doesn’t nullify that ability. I’m just rambling now, as you said yourself it just comes down to writers since these immortality/invincibility are usually vague and not actually explored much. Furthermore, in writing many times lots of these terms are used interchangeably even though they can mean very different things. Example: invulnerable and immortal are sometimes used as if they are the same thing. I am once again rambling and will stop here.
IIrc the slayer is classified as a primeval, which is a class of being that can only be harmed/killed by primevals. the parazon wouldnt even be able to start to affect him
Doomguy from the first doom ( the weakest doomslayer) was able to kill multiple cyberdemons knowing the cyberdemon resisted blows from the soul cube which rivals evil's that transcends space and time, so doomslayer would not be affected by the stomp. good vid tho
I don't think the Tenno are actually immortal They are hard to kill, yes, but they can die... But they come back... With the timey-wimey bs of the void
You forgot that all frames have access to Parazon which is meant to kill immortal beings. Arcanes are also canon btw, and some of them are pretty nasty. With arcanes Rhino and Tenno would have much better chances, tho I agree Dommslayer would technically win.
I also think Doom Slayer seems to win, at least if we don't talk about eternalism and the void and stuff. BUT, what if Rhino stomps, stops time, steals the crucible and... You know? I don't think it would be a stretch tbh.
also the tenno are immortal in a way the crusible blade might fuck with, cause its an imovable sheild vs the sharpest spear... the man in the wall killed off every single tenno in every timeline they die.... so they cannot exist in a timeline were they die. combining that with the crusible blade, i dont know how that would work.
All fun in games until the warframe brings out rev prime.because his "ability" Bessemer skin isn't an ability only in game in lore he always has it active and that Mesmer skin gets transported into his sword name tatsu and it's like the same as the doom guys sword. And for anyone wondering he didn't compare rhino prime. And the thing about rev is the fact he cannot die like at all he is forced to live forever until the end of time mainly do to his skin absorbing all damaged and multiplying it by 0 when it strikes him. So I'm not made of rhino losses mainly because tennos grow infinitely stronger forever and when a tenno grows stronger so does the warframe that tennos warframe. So meaning if a tenno is new there Warframes will be weak but if there old there warframe will be op. Warframe kinda demonstrates that when you first play the game. You feel weak until later on you get stronger. And don't forget that all Warframes can use all the abilities from the helmiths. And besides tennos did kill a god ballis well not exactly us but you get the idea. But yeah that's why warframes are powerful AF because Warframes are more powerful the stronger your tenno is.
And I do play doom and he actually cannot get more powerful no more but he's powers never dissipate. That's the thing dooms powers is limited he can only get more skill or better armor to help his strength and speed. But no point for armor since his skin is more stronger than the armor he even wears
I don't think that the doomslayer's crucible sword could kill rhino I think that it may be able to dispel the ironskin but I'm almost certain that it can't do much against the natural immortality of rhino... it's true that I may be biased to warframe (simply cause I'm more well versed to it's lore) but in my personal opinion rhino (especially rhino prime) would rip the doomslayer to shreds with a single stomp... cause (as far as I know) the slayer never had to contend with TIME STOPPING POWERS before...
Fight-wise, I think Doomguy would clap many warframes, stalemate against a few other than Rhino, and I do think some could actually win, obviously not forever, since everyone is immortal here, but win nonetheless Gauss lore-wise is like comics Flash when he doesn't get wrecked because of writing, Protea can turn back time just for her and her weapons meaning infinite health and damage, Dagath with more of the same as Rhino but more damage with abilities built to kill unkillable and probably a pair more that I forgot. They all end in stale-mate but in a fight Rhino is probably the most on-par with the Doom Slayer
OPERATION SPACE MONKEY A youtuber in the name of "Rouga Rabid" called upon his viewers to reach out and call upon people knowledgeable of certain universes to pit against the forces of hell from the game DOOM. If you want to collaborate with a DOOM enjoyer then I'd suggest for you to reach out to "Rouga Rabid" and discuss further. I love his way of versus battles because he goes in depth with every topic he puts out. Would love to see you guys collaborate ❤
Gauss sadly is MUCH slower than flash HOWEVER Gauss is also one the most tankiest warframrles in the game due to one single ability so i think it all comes down to whatever weapon we give gauss to be able to even hit flash
I feel like Doomguy loses this fight by the T I N I E S T hair. It isn't even a kill loss, it's a retreat loss. Warframes are slower than Doomslayer, yes, but they're way more agile. Meanwhile, let's just assume Doomguy has his supershotgun, and Rhino has Corinth Prime (essentially the closest thing to the normal pump-action of 2016 DOOM), just for the sake of simplicity, any weapon either has is going to have a close enough comparison to the other's world... Now, the one thing I don't think you touched on enough - The Tenno themselves ARE as much a weapon in a fight as the Warframe itself. An Amp would function the same way as a Crucible blade in this instance, I think, but instead being a gun rather than a melee. And THAT'S where I think Doomguy fails. So how would it happen? Rhino and Doomguy clash, essentially constantly trading overguard between each other, or overshield if we're using DOOM terms, until Rhino JUST BARELY manages to get Doomguy to stagger for a split second, in which the Tenno comes out, pops a blast into Doomguy. I don't think that'd kill him, but it'd make him come to respect the Tenno enough that he'd basically see them as fighting the same fight... Especially if an Infested or Murmur just happened to roll up and interrupt.
Would be a cool cross over doom slayer being hunted by teno as a misunderstanding i can aee it now then they team up real tallk rhino would win eventually tho like repeating a boss fight or playing unsertale lol
The only scenario where i can picture doom slayer winning is to have doom slayer within the operator's ship, within the operator's chamber and have his crucible impale/kill the tenno's warframe together with the tenno's body and through the operator seat, making a shish kebab/ skewer.
Even if these end up being controversial, I like this way of power scaling with much more game mechanics than feats alone. Feats alone is just an easy way to say Dragon Ball/Destiny writers always win lol.
So i wanna say two things. 1. I clearly need to play doom eternal tp see just how strong doomguy actually is 2. The tennos method of immortality is very particular thing that as far as im aware cannot be undone by anything other than another tenno
I thought the crucible blade just paralyzed the titan enemies, not outright kill them. If it straight up killed them, why not just remove the blade from the head instead of snapping it from the hilt.
Not only could he just leave it inside rhino but the slayer has also killed demons stated to be immortal just with his bare hands. The power creep has no limit with him it seems.
Yeah if he remowves it they coam back to life theat crucible not as good as the video maker wanted to seem also all that multiverse horseshłt mens nothing as combat goes you never sue any ability tha would surpass any universes in any doom game... this is lore jerking nothing more also doom guy isn't fester he can't glide grip on walls jump more than twice....
the question that wasn't asked. Tenno uses transference on the doomslayer, soothes his rage, relaxes him, takes control, uses him as a frame. If we really want to be lore accurate, this is the most likely outcome. Sorry fanboys, know your lore.
I don't know who wins, but I know for sure who loses. Everyone within a ten mile radius, minimum.
😂
Massive L and RIP to those who decided to step in a nuke zone 😔😔
Tenno: I've survived being stabbed with a blade before!
Doomguy:🗿
Literally a quote by the operator: "Last guy who tried sticking me with a blade? Things didn't go so well for him."
Well rhino isnt easily stabbable no? Ballas got fucked up too
Wasn't just ballas
The Tenno had survived being retconned by Ballas, only to be brought back by themselves but from A timeline where they didn’t escape Zariman, to which the Tenno from A timeline where it didn’t escape Zariman restarts the Tenno’s omnipresence… My brain hurts…
@@Alexus00712”The Baby.” - Samus, probably.
How I imagine the fight to go.
Rhino, standing at one end of the room, Slayer, stadning at the opposite end.
Then suddenly a massive explosion from god know what because Slayer just moves that fast, everything absolutely destroyed, everything around dead.
And as the dust settles, they just..stand there in the same exact spots, not even a single scratch on either of them, because both of them just refuse to die.
frames got parazons so Doom slayer might die here
@@theguyhimself222 He got the crucible.
@@rans0mware the man in the wall killed off every single tenno in every timeline they die.... so they cannot exist in a timeline were they die. combining that with the crusible blade, i dont know how that would work.
Huh?@@newtz.
@@Leylani-l3l did you not pllay new war?
I think it would go something like this; Doomguy meets Rhino, tries to kill him because Rhino looks a little like a demon but just cant kill him. Then they agree to just rip and tear together.
Infinite sustain vs unlimited damage output
With augment rhino have the infinite damage scaling with iron skin explosion
So yeah, rhino is kinda more op
@@Mnogotochie Lore Doomslayer is the purest definition of OP, but if we completely untether to gameplay then the argument becomes more a "my dad could beat up your dad" slap fight, because warframes and specifically lore Rhino are also scary as hell and killed their own share of previously thought immortal beings.
Now we need WF Dante vs DMC Dante. This could be a very interesting fight bc they are both immortal beings with demonic powers and an insane arsenal.
Dante might win against Dante in that case
Dante would win
Dude Dante wins no diff. Dante won't even be able to move before Dante kills him
ROYAL GUARD
Two thing for sure Dante will win, Dante will lost
So basically this fight would create a time paradox of endless battle
Finally a fair fight for a Tenno.
Which shows the power that the Tenno command! The fact that a fair fight is DOOM GUY shows that you never scoff that these guys.
@@DragonKing_GRAgniI'd rather fight a Primark from Warhammer 40K then a fucking Warframe
@@varlak9061 no kidding 😂
They could fight... for a while... like a few days, if not more.
Then the tenno being the brat that they are could pop out of the frame and say "Hey, you working for the orokin or the man in the wall?"
Then the DG could go like *grunts in confusion*
And the Tenno could be like "Say less fam", throws a peace sign, calls ordis to send their Liset and A pose out of the fight.
Leaving the DG scratching his head *grunts in even more confusion*
Then the murmur and the infected show up cuz they smelled the Tenno/Warframe, and the DG *grunts happily* being back in his element.
Or something like that.
Ordis could probably ask the Tenno "Who was that" the tenno, being all smug answers "Someone's else problem"
Also Tenno: "put that double barrel down and take a Boar Prime"
DG: *Shows great approval*
Its funny since both have immortal negating blades, the tenno have the parazon to kill immortal beings
Good point, I missed that. This fight even closer than I thought. Both immortal with immortal killing abilities.
What immortal beings have we killed as Tenno?
Kuva liches@@CupidSmurf657
@@CupidSmurf657 Assuming they mean kuva liches and sisters of parvos? Idk the lore behind them or if there's other immortal beings
@@CupidSmurf657 kuva liches and sisters of parvos, both are immortal where after dead can come back, unless the parazon is used with the correct albrecht mods
Not even going to try to make reason of Rhino’s stomp at all, but as a general topic, based on theory of general relativity, mass translates to gravity which translates to spacetime curve which translates to slower time.
Rhino just does an infinite mass stomp which causes a miniature black hole to form just like a cavitation bubble that pistol shrimps make the black hole causes space time to get warped which makes things slow-this is my theory
yeah that's pretty minimal for rhino
The concept of time in the Warframe universe is incredibly convoluted even by sci-fi standards. Any scientific theory in our reality literally cannot be applied to Warframe.
Time is vaguely described once by a character deeply in the know of how it works as a string, with each individual thread being their own timeline and yet the same reality. It’s pretty stupid if I’m being frank.
@@CringeGamingOG so it's multiverse theory if the multiverse were one singular universe?
That doesn't sound too bad
I find both scenarios hillarious:
1: Doom Guy casually mulches Rhino with the crucible and the fight is over instantly
2: Doom Guy swings the Crucible with his signature infinite strength only for it to stop on Rhino's body because him aggressively rolling around to maintain triple immortality.
I don't think you fully considered that the Operator comes in clutch in other ways then extra immortality. With Magnus lockdown and the Madurai focus, they can spam void sling and trap Doomslayer in place. Plus with an Operator you're basically fighting 2 beings at once, both of which are godlike in power.
Excluding Excalibur Umbra, its more like 1 being with 2 vessels, since you can't control both at once
@@nexus9020 Fair enough
@@nexus9020an umbra and operator tag team would look cool
@@kvab24Imagine if the operator could use a sword
@@TheManWhoErasedHisNane drifter does
I wish my Rhino teammates would be as immortal as described in this video
They just dont know how to play Rhino. The Warframe youtuber brainrot of "five million ironskin, but you have to bend over backwards to get it" is ruining their ability to see that Rhino isn't meant to be played like Revenant.
@@FerunaLutelouyea it’s difficult finding a good build that doesn’t focus solely on iron skin
@@kvab24 I mean Rhino really only has Iron Skin and Roar. most WF RUclipsrs usually build their Rhino with the "Parasitic Armor + Rhino Charge into 50 bajillion enemies" setup, when you could just build him for ability strength and use Iron Skin as a reactionary tool. It's much better to use it this way because with the Jade Eximus unit you get 2m+ iron skin for free.
@@kvab24 stay under the green light for a sec XD
@@FerunaLutelouput defy over his 1st, and get ability strength stupid high.
Roar plus the damage reflection means it can output serious damage, and adds to survival. Makes for a pretty fun and aggressive style too
It’s like 2 little kids making their favorite toys fight
Yup, it's an endless back and forth of "nah I dodge that"
Hell yeah
As a huge lore nerd in both Doom and Warframe i legit have no idea where this fight could go, i am leaning towards the DoomSlayers side but they both have a chance.
Now I have to say, I'm not the biggest fan of the concept of VS battles or power scaling, at least from a writing standpoint, since ultimately your characters are at the mercy of the writer, as you very well pointed (thank you for that). However, I'd be lying if I said that I don't enjoy it as long as it's not taken too seriously, or for the sake of a fun conversation.
So... Guap, PLEASE make this a series!!! This is honestly really fun and I want to see more videos of Warframes going up against other god-killing characters.
Who knows? Maybe this will bait Nuxanor into making Warframe lore dives lol.
Also, I just realized... I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure a Tenno could permanently kill the Emperor from Warhammer 40k with frightening ease...
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no teeno is close to do that, the emperor is a High Outer warrior with the power to destroy multiverses like nothing
@@megamente7849take a guess what limbo can do…
I love this way of match up. Purely for fun and being able to create narratives for how it woks.
But i'd do think Doom boi would win because he killed a multiversal being and also have the power of a multiversal being. For me i think he doesn't know how to use his full potential because he essentially has the essence of Dagath in him and all of his powers. Who created everything and i do mean EVERYTHING.
But then again our operator also don't know how to use their full potential just yet. Because of eternalism and that deal they made and shit.
This fight is a fight of infinites "technically"
10:26 not lore but in-game knowledge: the i-frames are applicable everytime, whether your skin is up or not.
If mods are canon, then you are definitely bringing piercing roar and reinforcing stomp too. One makes his enemies deal less damage, and one just replenish his immortality.
We Rhino mains are just secretly doom enjoyer because their theme is quite... similar, though parazon exists, which kills literally immortal beings, but doom guy do be coming back anyways.
It becomes like that certain part of Asura's Wrath where Akuma versus Asura and the fight last over 500 years and it doesn't even end.
Bro, u know asura's wrath to
I can expect everything from you, damn
Mod are canon
Mods aren't only canon, they're outright mentioned by Fibonacci and Teshin during both Alchemy missions
@@Necroxion Viso outright says he has an unmodded plinx when he is taking stock of just how FUCKED he is
@@dragonriderabens9761 Veso just says he has "a plinx", he makes no mention of it being unmodded.
The helmninth ability system being considered would make these videos so much longer its insane how much warframe's have at their disposal
It is it's lore accurate ball ASS made the helminth....
The last time someone "killed" the Tenno, he came basically back with an older Twin (Drifter) of himself, which got the same powers as him in the end...
So keep try doing that and you have probably a self multiplying army of Tennos/Drifters.
Already in the "War Within" Quest, the Tenno broke the laws of Immortality and did some scetchy "time" shenanigens, to not be killed in the moment where the Older Queen uses the Scepter.
Resulting in a kinda "time travel/flashback but not" (in 1 second) situatuion, gaining his original power back and resist the Queen.
So even if Doomguy is stronger, it would basically end in a stalement as you already stated.
The Queen didn't try to kill the Operator, she wanted to erase their personality to posses their body.
erm ok? 🤓doom slayer hasnt fought straight up hell and dark gods for eons for shit bruh, he literally tore up god's god who was the ruler of hell as well as everything else. Ur tenno goon gang aint gonna do shit
@@sciarpecyril yeah, you´re right, the Ritual of continuity. But the rest of my statement stands still, the whole "reawakening of the Tenno Power" somehow took place while the Queen was drilling into the Tennos mind.
@@lawbypass yeah sure tell that yourself Doombuddy.
He killed immortal beings so what?
-The Tenno aren´t immortal, they´re even pretty fragile on their own. The only instance we know of that a Tenno got killed, it basically spawned a second one through the "Event of Eternalism" and the original one got revived.
It´s some kind of "multiversal" (more like space-time-versal, cause´ it´s the same universe) shenanigans.
It´s pretty save to assume that Doomguy is stronger, but with a "selfmultiplying" enemy which has an arsenal of basically anything you can think of, somewhere there would be a stalemate.
Rhino has a stomp so hard it stops time, Limbo can shift whole dimensions and Wisp opens a direct portal to the sun, to name a few abilities.
To win, Doomslyer would need to eradicate the source of power of the Tenno first, which he probably can. The Problem is even we Warframe players don´t know what the source is. Is it "Wally" (The man in the Wall) or is it the "Void" itself.
In the latter case, he would have to destroy some kind of immaterial space and worst case would be: "Wally" himself is the Void and functions like a perpetuum mobile.
@@ShadowOfStrikes im not reading that summarise please
Rhino is Doomslayer turned into a warframe. That is my head-cannon, change my mind.
bro has a cannon on his head
Makes sense
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WAIT A DAMN MINUTE!!!
Demons: He turned into a Warframe
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Oh God... he turned into a Warframe
@@PANNARALEJ Doomslayer killed a guy that created Hell, which is also alive.
That's not Rhino because that guy killed the equivalent of TMITW's boss.
this is actually really interesting
it really is a good example of “Unstoppable force vs immovable object”
the doom slayer can basically kill anything as long as it is alive
while rhino can absorb literally anything that hits him and turn it into his defense
but the doom slayer is also technically immortal/immovable
i personally think that it would be an endless battle, unless rhino runs out of energy 😂
or it would be possible that they both recognize that they cant kill eachother, and that it is pointless that they fight, so instead they team up
It’s cannon that Warframes have infinite energy it’s just limited in game for playability. And mods/arcains are also cannon… Shesh imagine a warframe one shot build is technically cannon… 🥶
I love the way you designed Rhino. Really makes it feel like A battle of equal strength, rather than 2 different powers.
As a Limbo Player. I just want to see how you would match Limbo against anyone. He can basicaly move to a different dimension and he could not die.
My boy guap out here
im not gonna say whos gonna win or lose. all im gonna say is that this was interesting
6:00 Based on my own interpretation of what I know of ‘99, Excalibur, often dubbed, “The First Warframe,” was made from Entrati’s experiments in ‘99 where he would infuse an engineered virus into willing participants, with Arthur developing into A more human version of Excalibur, which I interpret to Albrecht giving samples of Arthur’s newly changed Deoxy Ribo Nucleic Acid to Ballas in order to create the first batch of Warframes, with Excalibur Umbra seeming to be one of the first Dax to be injected… Correct if I’m wrong, though.
I just laughed thinking about Rhino's Immortality and rolling guard 😂
Sounds kinda like the stalker situation when they drop the hardest quote I've heard in the game.
Immortality is not invulnerability. Immortality means you still take damage, but just can't be killed. Invulnerability means nothing harms you at all, not even a scratch. Iron Skin and Rolling Guard and Shield Gates are forms of invulnerability. Doom Slayer will not be able to deal any damage while that is up. Rhino pops Iron Skin, stomps when Doom Slayer attacks, that attack will grant Iron Skin, btw it takes the damage dealt and multiplies it if you go buy how it is in-game. So it'll take at least a few more hits to break. With Doom Guy slowed, or even frozen, they duke it out. However, because Rhino doesn't have the enough strength, he doesn't even scratch Doom Slayer. The only thing that might work is Rhino stomping on Doom Guy, which might damage him?
And if Doom Slayer does manage to get a hit in instant between the invulnerability phases (wouldn't happen because they can be started before the previous one ends), the Tenno can appear in void form, so invulnerable, and heal Rhino by just being near him.
Its an unbreakable object means infinite force situation, the whole universe gets wiped out in the aftermath. God the Warframes are too broken, we haven't even left our Star System and we've got someone who theoretically can tank the destruction of the universe and use it to make himself tankier.
Also, forgive me if this is wrong, the War is a weapon designed to "kill" warframes, and that turns out to be useless so an immortal killing weapon may not be as effective as one would believe. Though the weapon mainly got its powers because it houses Hunhow who may have been able to "shut off" the warframe so its debateable whether its an immortal killing weapon or a warframe disabling weapon.
Other comments just reminded me about Drifter, a being so fucking broken they created an entire dimension/world with living entities accidently, how tf do you create a dimension accidently? And then reset that dimension because you didn't like the fact that someone died and they also revived us. Except, the Drifter is also us from a different timeline, so we revived ourselves. So even if Doom Guy were somehow able to kill us, we'd quite literally just revive ourselves by having an alternate timeline version of us come save our asses. This would bypass an immortal killing weapon because it isn't our immortality that is reviving us, but rather us from a different timeline that is revive us. So a different entity. This is so confusing.
well there's one way for Rhino to just easy mode win this fight ,if he has the mod : Iron shrapnel , equipped , if he does any/all of the doom slayers dmg with be enhanced , and thrown back at him, and the doom slayer buts out far more dmg than he can tank . it was funny that During the jade shadows event , they had to nerf the green death laser , cause of rhino , tanking 100s of millions of points of dmg and throwing it all right back out
they nerfed it because the beams were moving faster than gauss could mach dash and doing infinite damage on contact.
I agree that a fight between a Rhino main and Doomguy would be an endless stalemate and the only way I see this fight ending is if they both get bored and just decide to stop fighting, but I also think Doomguy probably wouldn't stop fighting, and it would just come down to the patience of the tenno controlling that Rhino
Rhino got stabbed by crucible . The child thats controlling him be like my sword now "enters void mode and grabs the crucible"
The crucible probably would have at the very least 1k damage at base without any mods lol so it'd be super powerful if any tenno got their hands on it and mod it. It also probably ALWAYS yellow crits because it would have crazy high critical chance, as well as it probably has a 3x critical damage multiplier
i can't believe you forgot the most important thing in this fight, Rhino's passiv 😂
rhino uses his stomp ability
doomslayer with overguard: 🗿
0:01 fr tho, could you drop the fashion?
With the Tenno being called devils by ballas it would prob make doomgiy more angry
Limbo=win you go in another dimension, revenant=win (adaptive damege), operator=win (gose back in time throu the void, kills doom guy when hi's a baby.
The operator one would be a problem because they would have to find out Who Doom guy is first, then when and where he was born to do that within the Doom universe. All the while trying to dodge Wally snatching them up from traveling back through time within the void (which seems to be the reason why Lotus / Natah / Marguils sent the Drifter back in time instead of the Operator) . If they go too far back, they will find Doom Slayer since the guy went from the "future" into the past and was slaying demons for eons.
There only saving grace is that Doom guy / Slayer wouldn't go back in time and kill the Operator when they are a kid because the dude does not get down like that. Innocence and animals he is kind to, it is the demons and those like them that suffer horrible fates.
When you revive you knock down everyone around you, so you could make a case where you revive, roll, rhino stomp immediately, then yoink the crucible and use it against its owner, alternatively you can just parazon him
so its the void deamon vs the deamon slayer
"the last guy that stabbed me things didnt turn out to good"
Why do we all want them to fight eachother? I think if the Tenno would somehow end up in the Doom universe. They'd team up.
I know this probably wouldn't work,but could paracesis be a option against the doomslayer?
The Paracesis was specifically designed by Ballas to be used by the Tenno against sentients, and then against the Tenno by Ballas.. I don't think Doomslayer fits into either of those categories..
@Alexus00712 yeah your right.I kinda knew that was a stupid question.
The paracesis was made to be efficient against the sentients and to “send the devil back to hell”. The sword doesn’t do any status damage such as cold or radiation that is effective against sentients, so it’s safe to say it’s empowered by the void(void is effective against everything and the only counter to other void creations). If we assumed that void based attacks are effective against Doom Slayer, then it could potentially be used to send and trap DS in the void if a portal was present and/or kill him.
What about the Tenno abilities aka focus schools?
Vazarin: Immortality²
Madurai: Damage²
I love how videos like this are essentially "Here's my imaginary character who is also a GOD" and "Here is MY imaginary character who is literally unkillable". It's like a kids game
You are the first person who i have watched that understands both sides in a vs video lmao
I would like to remimd everyone that mods are canon
All because someone is faster than lightning doesn't mean they have infinite speed
That’s like barely light speed😅
Probably his most accurate assessment yet
You should most definitely make polls on these - asking the community what character would win
I have not seen this clip in a long time 7:09 but damn that looks absolutely brutal. Casual Madurai user.
I'm curious how subsumes will be considered in this case as well as whether doomguy can be CCed. Cuz if subsumes can be considered and Doomguy can be CCed(ie petrified, frozen, mind controled, etc) I think Rhino would have a better chance. Banish would make the stalemate even more of a stalemate by sending Doomguy literally into a different plane of existence. Null Star's anti-matter particles cancelling out the existence of any matter on Doomguy including his own flesh(unless he's not made of matter which i doubt). CC abilities such as Petrify and Mind Control if effective can also render Doomguy completely defenseless. Not familiar with Doom lore so what i just said might be nonsense but hey.
In some cases both walk away and be brothers
This was a very interesting watch and an even more interesting stalemate. I don’t remember very much about DOOM lore since it has been quite a while, but I think an interesting thing to maybe think about is that Rhino does have the parazon which destroys flesh, tech, immortality, basically everything. So wouldn’t the first time that Rhino stab DoomGuy result in the rest of the fight be meaningless? As far as I recall before DoomGuy used the divinity machine he was just a crazy good marine and the machine is what made him the guy taking a murder stroll through hell for a few million years, so after he gets stabbed by the parazon wouldn’t all his abilities from the machine be nullified? Ofc the same can be said for Rhino, getting slashed by the crucible blade would remove his invincibility/immortality but then his Tenno can just revive him, assuming the blade doesn’t nullify that ability. I’m just rambling now, as you said yourself it just comes down to writers since these immortality/invincibility are usually vague and not actually explored much. Furthermore, in writing many times lots of these terms are used interchangeably even though they can mean very different things. Example: invulnerable and immortal are sometimes used as if they are the same thing. I am once again rambling and will stop here.
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Lore wise the doom slayer is technically a god. Taking the dlcs into consideration this fight isn’t very close
IIrc the slayer is classified as a primeval, which is a class of being that can only be harmed/killed by primevals. the parazon wouldnt even be able to start to affect him
In the doom lore the praetor suit is impenetrable so idk if the parazon would work🤷
@@cr0wnin except it completely nullifies immorality.
Doomguy from the first doom ( the weakest doomslayer) was able to kill multiple cyberdemons knowing the cyberdemon resisted blows from the soul cube which rivals evil's that transcends space and time, so doomslayer would not be affected by the stomp. good vid tho
The void energy beams of operator deal void damage
Which i think should be able to hurt immortal beings
Oh void energy does hurt immortals
Atlas might actually stand more of a chance purely based on his lore feat of punching a whole ass planet into smithereens.
What happens when you consider inaros, nidus, or grendel
Omg not grendel… the guy with a literal black hole for a stomach
7:10 can we just appreciate Warframe cinematic with Doom soundtrack.
In game Cheat codes can give the doomslayer infinite hp and ammo
Dude, what's the name of the syandana you put on your rhino? 0:04
If i no bad rebember the 2 uniques times a warframe was destroyed was 1 by a misscalculation of a limbo, and mirage idk
Just a fun theory: I Think the chrono trigger rune from Eternal implies Doom Slayer in lore can manipulate time
You forgot the elemental damage rhino could to with his guns such as toxin gas heat or electric and then some
I don't think the Tenno are actually immortal
They are hard to kill, yes, but they can die... But they come back... With the timey-wimey bs of the void
You forgot that all frames have access to Parazon which is meant to kill immortal beings.
Arcanes are also canon btw, and some of them are pretty nasty. With arcanes Rhino and Tenno would have much better chances, tho I agree Dommslayer would technically win.
It's worth noting that the Parazon seems to kill beings immortal via the void through invocations of voidtongue.
I reckon i could take them on at the same time 🧍♂️
I also think Doom Slayer seems to win, at least if we don't talk about eternalism and the void and stuff. BUT, what if Rhino stomps, stops time, steals the crucible and... You know? I don't think it would be a stretch tbh.
also the tenno are immortal in a way the crusible blade might fuck with, cause its an imovable sheild vs the sharpest spear...
the man in the wall killed off every single tenno in every timeline they die.... so they cannot exist in a timeline were they die. combining that with the crusible blade, i dont know how that would work.
It’s funny that lore-wise, almost every warframe is of equal power, excluding a few like nidus, umbra and the obvious primes
IMO Nidus prime is the strongest warframe lore-wise
All fun in games until the warframe brings out rev prime.because his "ability" Bessemer skin isn't an ability only in game in lore he always has it active and that Mesmer skin gets transported into his sword name tatsu and it's like the same as the doom guys sword. And for anyone wondering he didn't compare rhino prime. And the thing about rev is the fact he cannot die like at all he is forced to live forever until the end of time mainly do to his skin absorbing all damaged and multiplying it by 0 when it strikes him. So I'm not made of rhino losses mainly because tennos grow infinitely stronger forever and when a tenno grows stronger so does the warframe that tennos warframe. So meaning if a tenno is new there Warframes will be weak but if there old there warframe will be op. Warframe kinda demonstrates that when you first play the game. You feel weak until later on you get stronger. And don't forget that all Warframes can use all the abilities from the helmiths. And besides tennos did kill a god ballis well not exactly us but you get the idea. But yeah that's why warframes are powerful AF because Warframes are more powerful the stronger your tenno is.
And I do play doom and he actually cannot get more powerful no more but he's powers never dissipate. That's the thing dooms powers is limited he can only get more skill or better armor to help his strength and speed. But no point for armor since his skin is more stronger than the armor he even wears
You should have done Valkyr againts doom slayer
To Angry to Die vs To Angry to Die.
Pretty sure stomp will change the entire outcome
I don't think that the doomslayer's crucible sword could kill rhino I think that it may be able to dispel the ironskin but I'm almost certain that it can't do much against the natural immortality of rhino...
it's true that I may be biased to warframe (simply cause I'm more well versed to it's lore) but in my personal opinion rhino (especially rhino prime) would rip the doomslayer to shreds with a single stomp... cause (as far as I know) the slayer never had to contend with TIME STOPPING POWERS before...
Yeah also crucible blade loose it's charges after attacks and only if you stay it palnted ni them cause immortals to die....
A lot of warframes and Tenno have died in the war, lore wise
Combine them together! We have the technology!!!
Fight-wise, I think Doomguy would clap many warframes, stalemate against a few other than Rhino, and I do think some could actually win, obviously not forever, since everyone is immortal here, but win nonetheless
Gauss lore-wise is like comics Flash when he doesn't get wrecked because of writing, Protea can turn back time just for her and her weapons meaning infinite health and damage, Dagath with more of the same as Rhino but more damage with abilities built to kill unkillable and probably a pair more that I forgot.
They all end in stale-mate but in a fight Rhino is probably the most on-par with the Doom Slayer
Make a video that’s the ultimate Warframe squad that could kill Samus Aran, because even with the warframes a lot of them are no match for her
This can go either way...seriously...
OPERATION SPACE MONKEY
A youtuber in the name of "Rouga Rabid" called upon his viewers to reach out and call upon people knowledgeable of certain universes to pit against the forces of hell from the game DOOM.
If you want to collaborate with a DOOM enjoyer then I'd suggest for you to reach out to "Rouga Rabid" and discuss further.
I love his way of versus battles because he goes in depth with every topic he puts out.
Would love to see you guys collaborate ❤
The doom slayer is so powerful he uses guns for fun, bro got tired of using his bare hands so he uses guns because it’s fun
If this were a Death Battle, I think Doomguy would edge it out on combat experience.
Ya know what matchup could also be fun? Flash (probably the one thats less ridiculous) vs gauss
Gauss sadly is MUCH slower than flash
HOWEVER
Gauss is also one the most tankiest warframrles in the game due to one single ability so i think it all comes down to whatever weapon we give gauss to be able to even hit flash
I feel like Doomguy loses this fight by the T I N I E S T hair. It isn't even a kill loss, it's a retreat loss. Warframes are slower than Doomslayer, yes, but they're way more agile. Meanwhile, let's just assume Doomguy has his supershotgun, and Rhino has Corinth Prime (essentially the closest thing to the normal pump-action of 2016 DOOM), just for the sake of simplicity, any weapon either has is going to have a close enough comparison to the other's world...
Now, the one thing I don't think you touched on enough - The Tenno themselves ARE as much a weapon in a fight as the Warframe itself. An Amp would function the same way as a Crucible blade in this instance, I think, but instead being a gun rather than a melee. And THAT'S where I think Doomguy fails.
So how would it happen? Rhino and Doomguy clash, essentially constantly trading overguard between each other, or overshield if we're using DOOM terms, until Rhino JUST BARELY manages to get Doomguy to stagger for a split second, in which the Tenno comes out, pops a blast into Doomguy. I don't think that'd kill him, but it'd make him come to respect the Tenno enough that he'd basically see them as fighting the same fight... Especially if an Infested or Murmur just happened to roll up and interrupt.
Would be a cool cross over doom slayer being hunted by teno as a misunderstanding i can aee it now then they team up real tallk rhino would win eventually tho like repeating a boss fight or playing unsertale lol
Mag Vs X-Men Magneto
equinox vs alien horde
The only scenario where i can picture doom slayer winning is to have doom slayer within the operator's ship, within the operator's chamber and have his crucible impale/kill the tenno's warframe together with the tenno's body and through the operator seat, making a shish kebab/ skewer.
Operator has been stabbed like that with a weapon that has a similar effect in lore and is still alive
Even if these end up being controversial, I like this way of power scaling with much more game mechanics than feats alone. Feats alone is just an easy way to say Dragon Ball/Destiny writers always win lol.
what about tenno vs human child?
This just perfect sense 🤌🏾
So i wanna say two things.
1. I clearly need to play doom eternal tp see just how strong doomguy actually is
2. The tennos method of immortality is very particular thing that as far as im aware cannot be undone by anything other than another tenno
I thought the crucible blade just paralyzed the titan enemies, not outright kill them. If it straight up killed them, why not just remove the blade from the head instead of snapping it from the hilt.
Not only could he just leave it inside rhino but the slayer has also killed demons stated to be immortal just with his bare hands. The power creep has no limit with him it seems.
Yeah if he remowves it they coam back to life theat crucible not as good as the video maker wanted to seem also all that multiverse horseshłt mens nothing as combat goes you never sue any ability tha would surpass any universes in any doom game... this is lore jerking nothing more also doom guy isn't fester he can't glide grip on walls jump more than twice....
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO
the question that wasn't asked. Tenno uses transference on the doomslayer, soothes his rage, relaxes him, takes control, uses him as a frame. If we really want to be lore accurate, this is the most likely outcome. Sorry fanboys, know your lore.
i am afraid to ask but i will ask anyway ash vs batman
You should do gauss VS quicksilver next
Kratos vs Atlas prime
For the irony of the name
in all technicalities wouldnt limbo drag his balls all over doomguy?
limbo's only true enemy is within warframe, eximuses and bubbles