iPad Pro and iPad Air 2024 (Review): Apple’s Fanciest iPads Aren’t Macs Yet
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
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0:00 New iPad Pro and iPad Air for 2024
0:31 iPad Pro Inches Closer to MacBook Air
1:25 iPad Pro with M4 Processor Ready for AI
2:04 Tandem OLED Display Shines on iPad Pro
2:54 New iPad Camera Position
3:42 iPad Pro Buying Considerations
4:21 iPad Air with M2 Looks Familiar
5:18 What's Missing From iPad Air
5:59 Putting Pencil Pro Through It's Paces
7:26 Pricing Options For iPad Pro and iPad Air
8:30 Is iPad Ready To Replace Your MacBook?
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Apple should give at least 90Hz refresh rate to Air models (iphone, ipad, macs), let 60Hz for regulars, 120 (should be 140Hz) to pro models to justify the price tags. Thats why I never bought Aitlr models 😢
This is exactly what they want. I have an iPad Pro 2018 with ProMotion. Specs wise I could go for an Air, but it feels like a downgrade if I do, especially because all my devices have it (iPhone and MacBook), so now we’ll have to spend $400 more…
You should suck it up and buy a pro model. It’s called PROmotion
You screwed up telling your mom to get the 10th gen iPad. The M1 Air has been on sale for 50 bucks more all weekend. At 399, it's a no brainer and such a better choice compared to the slow, chonky 10th gen iPad.
The apple pen incompatibility issue is just so stupid. They are now selling and supporting 4 (!!!) different apple pencils, each only working with select ipads.
Amateur hour at apple
Why is this so bad? How does this affect you personally in such a drastic way? Do you need help in choosing?
Right?
@@fVNzOif you buy a new iPad you have to buy a different pencil
Apple Is saving the world making you buy 3 diferent plastic pencils 😂😂😂
This is the shittiest move that Apple did this year. They are forcing you too spend additional 130$! Like they know that their new pencil is not so cool, and is not worth as much because it is not working in majority of apps yet. So let's force people to buy it.
They're never gonna put macOS on the iPad. They would risk self cannibalizing their MacBooks.
Exactly! Making macOS and apps available on ipad would be the biggest nail in the coffin for MacBooks. In my opinion its the only missing major tool that hinders the ipad from being the logical go to. Apple being apple would never allow such an option and would try to get people to buy both
that song deserves a grammy
What do people think a MacBook can do that the iPad Pro doesn’t? I use both for everything and anything and often grab the iPad Pro because it makes using social media and streaming consumption far better. Both screen and sound. Word processing is the same. Same filing systems. So why do people continue to say they want Mac OS on an iPad? Just use a MacBook
My iPad is my MacBooks little buddy!
I don’t want Mac OS on iPad Pro you want the apps and file management freedom like a Mac but not Mac OS on the iPad Pro
100% agree!
Mac OS on iPad is a silly idea. No pro will do pro things on a base chip device anyway. It’s a MacBook Air in a tab body.
Why compare with the MacBook? Compare with other Android tablets. Apple would purposefully limit the iPads capability so they don’t reduce Mac sales 😂
It’s not even that. If you had Mac OS on it, it would be an inferior MacBook and a crap tablet. The surface pro isn’t really stealing regular laptop sales. The iPad with Mac OS wouldn’t really do it either.
The pro just isn’t for you, and that’s OK. It’s for artists and they use the power. You just Netflix on a Samsung tablet, has better screen aspect ratio and also has OLED.
Well having a ‘Pro’ iPad is fun to have 😁. Just need to be able to afford it 🥺…
The iPad is a tablet, not a MacBook. It’s not meant to run Mac OS. If people want Mac OS then get a Mac. I do think that the pros could use pro software. Apple isn’t going to kill the MacBook by putting Mac OS on the iPad.
Or ruin the iPad by putting MacOS on it. They need to continue adding features to the current iPadOS.
I still wish that we didn’t have to choose between touchID and faceID, just add both to same product. Also, the Magic Keyboard in its current form factor doesn’t offer a seamless transition from laptop mode to tablet mode and vice-versa. You have to detach the iPad in order to use it as a tablet, and then it has no protection and the camera bump is a bit of a annoyance if you’re using it on a flat surface. It’s not that this isn’t a major upgrade, but they should have solved all the rough edges at this point.
Other than that, the hardware on the iPad has had massive unused power for a while. Now more than ever. I’m hoping the next WWDC will deliver a version of iPadOS that will finally turn the iPad into the laptop replacement it can and should be.
i love iPad Pro
Does the ipad air have two speakers or four ???
Nailed the review the only thing that’s new is the move outrageous prices
gaming performance?
sacreligious
fast
Great review!
Can’t wait to get mine. For 90% of my usage the iPad Pro crushes my MacBook
Me too. I use my M1 Pro for a graphic design and art business without issue.
How long can it be used outside at full brightness before it gets too hot and dims the display? That's my biggest frustration with all Apple devices.
roughly 8-10 hours
Using outdoors with latent heat and high brightness is not recommended for even short periods on any tech with no fans. I would say if you have a habit of doing this then you are killing your device much faster than using it sensibly.
Apple products are the only ones that DONT suffer from this issue on cheap LagDroids. I have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@AnonN-sr6uu If you understand Apple, you will know they will throttle when hot, so it will appear laggy. This is to not stress out the fanless phone any more than it is already. You may not appreciate Apple protecting your device, but as I said, Apple will do what it does, and most users understand that.
Wait. So you can’t make spatial content for the Vision Pro with the ONE camera left, right?
Correct
I was just thinking the same thing. Weird omission.
“Different FROM”. Learned that in second grade. Thank You! 😍
Thank you Sir! 😀
According to Apple they are complimentary devices (iPad and Mac). They should work together rather than compete with each other 😊
I have the 10th Gen with the touch. I have yet to get the touch to work for me. I always have to type my code in and hats after two years and over 800 tries each year. I have tried re-training it regularly every couple of years and so far it just does not seem to work for my fingers.
Scott (or anyone else) please explain to me this: I have an iPad, which I use a lot for 3D modeling and illustration. But I also have a MacBook because I need it to use apps that don't have an iPadOS counterpart (apps like Lightburn, PrusaSlicer, and some Arduino and Raspberry Pi mini apps). The question is, I thought Apple was going to eliminate the differences by making iPadOS apps run on MacOS with no issues. But the reverse is what I need. I need to run MacOS apps on iPadOS. Why hasn't this happened yet? Are they just trying to protect their MacBook sales or is this something that developers are responsible for?
I guess it is all because that on Mac you have full programs but on iPad you have a totally different system with apps. It is like you would like to use android apps on windows. (Which you can sligthly do - Windows had prepared special enviroment for them). But it is not the same. IPad os is very cut and limited version of OS. They are trying to cover it with cool apps. More professional apps (zbrush is coming to ipad). However with M4 the ipad is too overpowered for the operating system that is on it. And as border between programs and apps is getting thinner people are forgetting that apps are not the programs. In some sense.
Definity protecting sales.
Apple never said macOS apps will come to the iPad. Quite the contrary; an interview this week they reiterated that it is not happening and there is no roadmap for it to ever happen. There are many reasons, too many to list, but devs are the main problem. Apple allowed iPad apps on Macs but devs either said no or mostly refuse to refine them, so iPad apps on a Mac suck. No way Apple wants this experience on the iPad. Just look at Windows 8 and MS effort to do what you ask. It cost them billions and they became irrelevant in the tablet market. Now they have abandoned Android subsystem on Windows as again no dev support. You are a niche demographic that make a lot of noise but the reality is as Apple succinctly said in their interview; iPads are complimentary, why would they compete against their own products in two extremely competitive low-margin markets?
I feel like people are looking at the iPad lineup wrong. The iPad Air is like the standard iPhone. Perfect for most. The pro is like the pro, and the 10th-generation iPad is like the SE model. Reviewers keep comparing the regular iPad to the MacBook lineup and get confused about the iPad lineup. If you need an iPad, probably get an Air. If you want most of the functionality but don't want to spend the money, get the 10th gen iPad. If you need the power, get the pro.
pro power with no real pro use or apps. good luck.. :)
Why would Apple wanna kill the MacBook line by making iPads do the work of Macs???
I might have to think about picking up that new Samsung tablet this year.
iPad Air + keyboard is same price as MacBook Air m3. iPad Pro + keyboard is same price as mbp 14” m3. So depending on your use case pick your preference. If your use cases bridge both then oops :/
It's called product diversification. What is the point of having a Macbook Air and an iPad running Mac OS. It will create the same scenario as the Mac Pro and the Mac Studio. Why spend the money on a Mac Pro with it's up-gradable architecture that Apple will not let you fully utilize when you can have a just as capable Mac Studio which is cheaper. Either the Mac Pro or the Mac Studio needs to disappear (it will likely be the Mac Pro ... it always seems that Apple hates the Mac Pro ... the main reason I switched to PCs in 2015). Replacing the MacBook Air with the iPad Pro will tick off those that want the MacBook Air. It will also anger those that hate Mac OS, but love the iPad (I am in that camp). Maybe what needs to happen is a better cross development system between the Mac Apps and the iPad apps, and maybe some advancement of the iPad OS so that it feels like an iPad, but has more of the directory structure and features of Mac OS .... Otherwise good luck with that because no matter what Apple does someone is going to advocate for the option Apple abandons.
I agree. You have diametric views. Apple needs a sustainable business model, yet a niche consumer demographic want this and that without any reality of the unintentional consequences of changes. Tablets and laptops are two separate products, much like Android Tablets and Windows laptops. Even Samsung has stopped making tablets impinge on their other products, by killing Linux and no longer making Windows tablets.
@@andyH_England I completely agree ... though Apple could create a great middle ground by developing a DEX like mode when connected to a normal monitor and you have a normal keyboard and mouse connected. Maybe not a full Mac experience, but a bit more of a Mac-like desktop.
They innovated by copying the Tab S8 Ultra...lol I bet the ram is 200 bucks for 8G and another $200 for each storage bump. They are saving plastic by removing the stickers while they ensure throwing away the old pencils. My bet is they won't tweak the OS to allow true MacBook level functions, and that would cut into their bottom line
Mac os.... so u would tap tap every every menu with your finger. That sounds terrible. Of course u could use a mouse and track pad but at that point just uae the Mac. It costs as much as a MacBook anyway
Dualboot is a option. iPadOS without M+K an MacOS for Stage Manager on external Monitor.
Best of both worlds.
which Magic Keyboards does the Air work with ?
Not the new one.
I worry about burn in, all OLED I have ever gotten had burn in happen.
These are gorgeous I wish I did not get a Mac air I love the change form factor for consuming content
Mac os on ipad 😂 yea sure
If they would just get iPad os to do what you can on Mac OS it would be perfect. I love my m1 iPad Pro and use it for my full time laptop for graphic design and art business. It can be tough at times but still easily can be done.
1. Samsung tablets have never used Tandem OLED so far.
2. Honor Magic 6 Pro and Magic 6 Ultimate both use Tandem OLED made by BOE.
Samsung's stylus automatically ships with their tablet though.
And LG
Samsung is producing this "Tandem OLED" for Apple. So just want until new Samsung tablet release this year.
@@martaanna9185 That is untrue. Apple own the patent for Tandem OLED so Samsung would be breaking the Law by copying it. Samsung is one of two manufacturers Apple hired to make them, LG is the other. LG makes the 13-inch as Samsung has poor yields and is unable to even make all the 11-inch iPads needed, so LG has taken the slack. There is no way Samsung will have their own version for at least 2-3 years as they will have to reverse engineer it to avoid being sued by Apple.
iPad for everyday computer no!!!!!
Windows is the only computer you need. iPad pro 13" to watch movies and buy off Amazon then yes to iPad or MacBook that's it.
i’m not a creative so having macOS mode is a nice thing to have. the ipad apps are just so limited (especially when it comes to doing and running code)
it’s just… why would you get the iPad if you’re not a creative and looking for a computer? get a MacBook Air it can do everything this can do just without a touchscreen.
@@Blaine-à MacBook can not scan. 🤦♂️
I need the basic 10th gen iPad to easily read books while at work or watch tutorials. But that OLED 11” may make me buy the wrong iPad lol.
Majority Users have been waiting for the 11” to get mini LED but instead we got something better, OLED.
It’s more like Mac’s aren’t iPads. No touch screen, bad display, no pencil support, not all apps work, no ability to convert, and its software is dated. Traditional computers are only good at doing things that are boring
the air m2 doesn’t worth 600$ , and it’s a scam. The pro m2 is now 700$ from original 800$, what you get extra? 120 hz, 2 camera, Lidar , 4 speakers , fast usb c …. All this worth much more than 100$
Lol, so many wasted screen space for just icon xD
I mean. iPad 10 is great but it’s $499 over $599 so I guess the 256GB storage for 499 is a $100 less where that extra $100 gets you a more powerful iPad with laminated glass. So yeah the $499 makes sense for most people and artists should go iPad Air imho for the lambasted glass, pencil hover and pencil pro support and the extra ram and layers
Just say you want a Surface Pro. You want a tablet with a full OS. Get a Surface Pro. While they’ve cannibalized features from one to another in the past, Apple doesn’t have a legitimate incentive to put MacOS into an iPad.
The iPad does Final Cut and Logic Pro without MacOS. What more do you want?
I don’t think Apple will never put Mac OS on an iPad - the whole idea is so they can sell you 3 devices, iPhone, iPad and Mac.
What is more likely is they are forced to allow third party apps like in Europe then we may see the iPad potential expanded.
To put MacOS onto iPads, it would infringe on MacBook sales. Apple is trying to keep all its products exclusive to a certain position.
Maybe no iPadOS and macOS, but total overhaul or a new OS just for iPads.
3:46 If you’re going to be consuming video on an iPad, letter-boxing is actually better, because notifications, the status bar, the scrubber, etc. don’t obscure your content.
Meanwhile the 10th Gen is fine for 90% of people’s needs. 9th gen isn’t worth buying. 3gbs of ram isn’t worth it.
10th Gen is now a better value at its new starting price.
If iPad OS and Mac OS did converge on this device, I would then have “Cellular”.
MacBook Cher?
01:12 he said you want to cuddle with it lol
“Coddle it.”
we should be able to run macOS apps on ipads. we dint necessarily need macOS on ipad
Playing devils advocate here.. Wouldn't a 2 in 1 macbook be totally rad! Now I understand it may defeat the purpose of having an Ipad and Macbook as separate entities. Which gives you the option of having one of the other or both; all depending on what your need is but as for someone who wants both without spending thousands of dollars on two separate products, it'd be a cool concept tbh. Should the day they announce this drop I'd be highly interested in purchasing that.
I mean, Samsung has come out with their own 2 in 1 product. I am currently waiting for more thorough reviews on the Galaxy Book 360 series before I make that commitment.
Im not surprised if this comes out in at least 10 years when people start really asking for a combo of an ipad and macbook. Thoughts on this?
The new Magic Keyboard is not compatible with the new iPad Air??? 😂😂😂
What if ipad pro get macOS and air stays on iPad OS
Aint' going to happen.
Because Apple does NOT want people to move away from their wall garden iOS/iPadOS and gatekept$$ App store.
It's absolutely frustrating the majority of Tech tubers are not willing to discuss or tackle how lacking and restricitive iPadOS is, they go on and on about hardware.
They are towing Apple's non-sense line about iPads being a computer replacement.
But you can bet your bottom dollar NONE of these techtubers will actually use the iPad as a computer replacement themselves.
i.e. ONLY use the iPad as replacement for their Macbooks for their work for several months.
Sometimes I think they have a too cozy relationship with Apple corporation.
maybe not for me. Im still good with a 7 year old ipad Pro since all it can do is to watch netflix and sometimes do some minor editing on lumafusion and garageband. If it can do real software dev stuff or something it could do some real work stuff, perhaps I'll be tempted to buy one - it'll be my macbook extension. I feel like apple is becoming nokia, kodak or palm.
Why does every tech reviewer insist that Apple should incorporate Mac OS on such a small screen? Enough already!
Yeah, most people only need a regular iPad. Save your money.
I don’t think that Apple will ever release any touchscreen device that runs Mac OS. Steve Jobs was against touchscreen laptops, and I don’t see Apple deviating from that.
Steve is dead, And people need to move beyond his antiquated ideals
Steve Jobs also thought 3.5" was the optimal phone screen size, but times have changed and that's much smaller than even the iPhone 13 Mini or SE 3rd gen.
@@tmclaughlin11 True. Apple will change to making touchscreen laptops if market conditions change. I have an iPad Air 2 that I got brand new in January 2015, and it’s still great for watching movies and RUclips. So I’d go with the 10th generation iPad.
Where is the most wanted test,the gaming test ? Fps in Genshin impact ?
Apple is a publicly traded company that answers to their shareholders. They're not stupid to allow iPads running MacOS to cannibalize their Macbook sales.
Apple makes more money from selling 2 devices aimed at two different target audiences instead of selling 1 device that combines what a Macbook can do with what an iPad can do.
iPads STILL can't replace a laptop/desktop. 🤣🤣🤣
Very lame Apple tactics to force the upgrade to the "pro" pencil for both the new iPad models. Not surprising, just frustrating.
And they won’t ever be!!!!!
samsung's ip68 tabs are better
Hey, listen, your mom needs a new iPad with a bigger storage capacity of 2TB, along with a pen and keyboard. You already suggested that she should buy an iPad 10gen which costs around $300, but why don't you just give her the one you have? You're her son, and it's your responsibility to take care of her needs. If you have an iPad Pro, give it to her, or if you have any spare iPads, it's better to give them to her instead of buying a new one. iPads are mainly used for entertainment purposes like watching movies, playing games, going online, or drawing, so investing in a better screen is important. My mother is 88, and I got her an iPad Pro, and she loves it. She said she can see it better than the old 10gen iPad.
LSS: No
Mac OS in the traditional sense will not make its way to iPad. ☹️BUT Mac OS has reached its end of life roadmap and we know that Apple is notorious for working on multiple platforms / interfaces at one time, while only offering one version from each subgroup; iPad OS, etc. for the actual product line. After living with the Vision Pro my suspicions were confirmed. Vision OS UX is great and isn’t half baked, it’s waiting on an announcement... to be unlocked…
Mark my words that either this WWDC or next year that Mac OS and all iOS will be retired… and a new platform will emerge. I predict it will be a responsive interface that is the same on all devices, but pending on device, use and accessories… certain features will be enabled / disabled. EX: iPad- full functionality only works when docked etc. There have been so many breadcrumbs over the past couple years… and now that apps can run across all devices if developed to do so… it’s begging to happen. What will they call it though? If it does indeed happen? 🤔
Apple UX, Apple OS, “Vision OS” ?
Everyone keeps talking about Apple not going to be stupid and put MacOs on Ipad. (It will cannibalize the Mac sale) Well how much better can you make a Ipad? Laptops get discrete graphics updates & CPU chips. When there is no new gpu or cpu upgrade they mess with the screen to justify the price. We went from pro motion - to mini led to Oled. Ipad sells had already took a hit prior to those screen upgrades. They don't even sell the previous pro models once they announce the new pro ipads. They are slowing down the upgrades on the lower model iPad, to get the most out of the pro lineup. We got a New iPad air with pro motion but the Ipad pros had pro motion since 2017. I think they least should develop IPADOS to its own MACOS system, because people are not going to upgrade based on a chip at the price they are asking.
If Apple make Mac OS for iPad nobody will buy MacBooks 💻 that’s why they will never merge
One day these people are going to realize Mac’s and pc’s are worse than the iPad.
More ""Catch up JUNK " from APPLE.
Refurbished M1 12.9" 1TB 5G for 1000 dollars.
It’s not about the iPad running Mac OS full time. It’s about having the option to flip into Mac OS when necessary or when docked and then flip back to iPadOS for 95% of computing needs.
iPad OS should be sandboxed to run enterprise BYOD applications (outlook / M365). Apple will need to consider that.
Gives you a fully featured Mac and docked desktop with 5G connectivity and 7-10 hours of battery. Take my money.
They now have four years and a reasonable amount of iPad Pros out that they can release the Mac OS option only on M1+ devices. The rest run iPadOS full time. This makes sense and makes their pricing line up nicely.
MacBook Air is $799. iPad Air+Magic Keyboard is $999. Their pricing lines up very nicely across models.
I can only ever see Apple allowing a Virtual Machine macOS to run on an iPad. That means you will need to already have a Mac and therefore it won't have a disastrous affect on MacBook sales.
“Exclusive to the iPad Pro: Run your favorite MacOS application in Stage Manager!”
Until that day, I’m never buying one.
🍎
And Macs aren't iPads yet. Common sense. Two different worlds dude.
Should’ve honestly put the M4 chip in the Mac
They will. On the Pro. I think they showed their hand last time when the iPad Air got the M1 at the time the Pro got the M2. the macbook Air Line will be roughly one refresh behind the Pro line soon too.
they will…
They will.
Funfact: M-chips were actually made for iPads
Stupid comparison with MacBook! What for? If I want an iPad for reasons everybody knows, I buy an iPad. Same for the MacBook!
macOS iPad will never happen, why? Apple dominates the tablet market and the creative laptop market, why would they merge two markets into one and make a decent product instead of making great products for both, they wouldn’t
every time the Apple iPad comes out they are always behind in technology they update it very little keep your 2019 iPad and wait 3 more years get this one for 299.99 or pay now 1799.00
I can't believe you failed to mention the iPad Mini smh 🤦♂
New iPad Pro cons
▫️Apple removed the 2nd rear camera
🔸Apple removed 1 studio microphone
🔹Apple Pencil 2 won’t work with it
🔻Existing Magic Keyboard won’t work with it
🔺The M4 chip in the 256 and 512 GB models is a binned one with lower CPU and performance cores than getting an 1T or 2T model which has the fully unlocked M4 chip.
Dumb review. I don’t want a Mac. Happy with iPad. If I wanted a Mac I would have bought one.
Agree. He also just regurgitated specs we already knew. On top of it the 'jokes' are cringe af.
I agree with your comment, but I still think the iPad multitasking needs a bit of refining to make it fit that pro title.
@@peterhahn8280witch cringe jokes??? i agree with ipad don’t needing macos but our man is cool!!!
I just want a 5G MacBook
Sometime you need to choose. You can’t buy both and spend 10k
Ipad os need to behave like macos (with sticky dock)
Imagine having an oled display in 2024.
What?
no way bro
@@NexGenTek read that again
@@CptSquirrelX Still don’t get it what’s the point
Lol right you wouldn't understand, Still lcd.
Hardware, hardware, hardware!
WHY DON"T TECHTUBERS EVER REALLY TALK ABOUT THE HAMSTRUNG iOS/iPADOS SOFTWARE?!?!?
😠😠😠
Great. My M2 Ultra Mac Studio & M3 MacBook Pro are now ancient. Put MacOS on iPad already!!! 🤦🏼♂️
Don’t believe the hype
Stop with these stupid comparison videos. Macs and iPads are two different devices for a reason. Get it through your prehistoric mind. If you want a traditional clamshell computer buy one!!
Yes, that is the problem I have. When MB Airs are reviewed they never compare with iPads, instead they buy the 8GB model and compare with 32GB Windows machines. Yet when the iPad is reviewed they ignore rival tablets. I feel this has to do with agenda-driven algorithms that make more money by being negative on Apple whilst not upsetting Android or Windows OEMs where these creators make money from the plethora of sponsorship.
Apples dumb ,won't the 2 displays generate tons of heat?
Who’s dumb?😂
Apple
It doesn’t have 2 displays, it has 1 and 1/3 displays, the second OLED Is just the emissive layer there to add more brightness without having to use more power
@@yonkocommander5531 bro says 2 displays...which one is it.
@@CptSquirrelX it’s 1 display and 1/3 because it only uses the emissive layer on the second one so it can get as bright has a regular OLED screen while using half the power and generating half the heat
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Waste of Money
Basically just same old ipad pro !
No need to buy one !
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