8:55 Seeking pleasure, satisfying desires and achieving goals! They talk about voluntary actions! This has a direct relationship to the process of generating personal identity and consciousness of type one ! This topic is complicated, but they mix things up miserably!
33:00 the way they think about consciousness is different, but ! Consciousness type one is the one that you uses to recognise this text, you disconnect from it as soon as you get asleep or coma , anaesthesia,….etc Consciousness type two is always there but it’s much clearer in dreams, driving cars, …..etc in general consciousness type one is related to awake while consciousness type two is always there as long as you alive, it has to do with many sophisticated tasks including perception,…etc
she talks about personal identity, but large part of is related to self concept. but you can avoid that to focus mainly on personal identity: personal identity uses consciousness type one to recognise what’s going on (personal identity is a process generated by self concept “kind of simulation of self concept but it’s not self concept itself).
The subject of voluntary actions is a bit complicated: There are two types of voluntary actions, and the following example can make it easier to understand: When you are in a state of sleep and suddenly wake up due to an emergency, such as your need to go to the bathroom, this is a voluntary action, but it does not originate through a consciousness type one. It is a process that takes place from the brainstem. To the limbic system and then an area in the cerebral cortex (approximately about 35 degrees from the centre of the limbic system to the cerebral cortex in the back direction of the brain (this was written previously), and there is another type of voluntary actions directly related to the frontal cortex and the separating part.
They must be careful not to form gangs in the scientific field that do not work to serve science and humanity, but rather to serve the narrow interests of those gangs (the only truth that humanity possesses is science, and it is the only means that can lead them to the absolute truth of this existence). Ethics, values, and human principles are not just a luxury, but rather they are essential to the field of science. Only established human values, ethics, and principles will displace fraudulent and thieves in the scientific field (laws alone are not enough).
Awareness ! They mix this term with the cognitive process and there is no clear distinction! Awareness is the product of the cognitive process (a result). It is linked to the cognitive process as a result, and can be stored and retrieved (Are you aware of what you are saying, etc.), that’s why they say be aware! but they are not aware of that, so it is also said: do you recognise what you are saying or doing? the second sentence is not wrong but they don’t differentiate between consciousness and awareness. very likely that they ….
By the way, consciousness type one and type two are not the same thing they talk about (consciousness and subconscious mind or unconscious mind), they connect consciousness to feelings, emotions, behaviours,….etc (they mix things up because of the lack of understanding ), consciousness type one and type two are tools of recognition, consciousness type one and type are both consciousness but they are different.
25:10 yeah unconscious! They talk about subconsciousness as a repository of emotions,….etc, they called it subconscious mind because it’s hidden part not because it has to do with consciousness itself! in general they talk about consciousness in a mysterious way of thinking!
The brain is the tool and not everything is necessarily directly connected to the brain cells. Someone’s action to irritate or provoke you with his words is information that affects the brain’s performance, not necessarily Related to brain neurons in absolute way as a direct result (human brain reacts to information).
6:55 it is possible that perception has to do with time but it’s mainly related to consciousness type one, the way they talk about perception seems weird!
9:35 they mix things up badly! that has to do with personal identity, it’s possible that there’s Obstructing of the process of generating personal identity due to a physical defect in the brain, psychological problems, or even a defect in generating consciousness type one. The topic you are talking about was discussed in detail (this was on the Skeptic channel on RUclips and closer to the truth), it is difficult to talk in detail here.
Neural activity must be studied in the science of embryonic development, especially the brain. There is something that uses genes with an advanced coding system (genes are just a tool in the coding process). This will not be easy or sufficient due to the current limited scientific and technological capabilities, but it is just a first step that may reveal an important activity. . (Brainstem doesn’t play a main role suddenly, it’s probably at the early stages The process of embryo development).
Logic embedded in both types of consciousness . The belief that logic relates only to type one of consciousness only or only to humans is a mistaken belief! The fact that other irrational beings do not possess a high level of consciousness of the first type or don’t possess it at all does not mean that they do not use logic.
The relationship between mental life and brain itself is similar to computer hardware and software. Computer software relies on computer hardware. But human mind and human brain is far more complicated than computers! The essence behind human mind is related to cycle two (this material world built within cycle two), as if the computer software is what built computer hardware. It’s still too early for such a way of thinking, better to go step by step.
Rationality-Enlightenment: logic alone can’t turn any entity into rational entity! if so then watch other animals, Birds, insects, Reptiles in nature, how they build their homes, nests,…how they hunt,…etc (of course that requires a high level of logic,… it’s hard to talk about that in details here), to become real rational intelligent entity you must have high level of consciousness type one, understand who you are, how does your brain work, the two types of consciousness, the difference between self concept and personal identity,….etc. Logic is involved in thinking, reasoning, wisdom,…etc but it’s not enough to define rationality based on logic only! the better you understand yourself and how your brain works (of course in humane positive way) the more rational you become. to concise: there are conditions to fulfill firstly to become real rational intelligent human entity. Does enlightenment have an actual value without the self and mind absorbing the accumulated, filtered scientific knowledge so that the rational person can rise to a higher human mental, moral, and ethical level?! the way they define rationality seems irrational too ! The result is more delusions!
Heather is a winner!
Great questions, great interview!
8:55 Seeking pleasure, satisfying desires and achieving goals!
They talk about voluntary actions! This has a direct relationship to the process of generating personal identity and consciousness of type one ! This topic is complicated, but they mix things up miserably!
Yeah, it’s completely different!
7:35 that’s the task of personal identity and consciousness type one as a tool !
33:00 the way they think about consciousness is different, but !
Consciousness type one is the one that you uses to recognise this text, you disconnect from it as soon as you get asleep or coma , anaesthesia,….etc
Consciousness type two is always there but it’s much clearer in dreams, driving cars, …..etc
in general consciousness type one is related to awake while consciousness type two is always there as long as you alive, it has to do with many sophisticated tasks including perception,…etc
she talks about personal identity, but large part of is related to self concept. but you can avoid that to focus mainly on personal identity: personal identity uses consciousness type one to recognise what’s going on (personal identity is a process generated by self concept “kind of simulation of self concept but it’s not self concept itself).
impulsive and compulsive disorders
sometimes they want to make things simpler but in fact they make it worser and mix things up!
42:40 that was written years ago , I think that was on closer to truth RUclips channel (creativity, personal identity and self concept)
The subject of voluntary actions is a bit complicated: There are two types of voluntary actions, and the following example can make it easier to understand: When you are in a state of sleep and suddenly wake up due to an emergency, such as your need to go to the bathroom, this is a voluntary action, but it does not originate through a consciousness type one. It is a process that takes place from the brainstem. To the limbic system and then an area in the cerebral cortex (approximately about 35 degrees from the centre of the limbic system to the cerebral cortex in the back direction of the brain (this was written previously), and there is another type of voluntary actions directly related to the frontal cortex and the separating part.
Neurology made a good progress, it’s true that the time process is related to consciousness type one.
the most important part is that human logic is universal, that means that humans can master Science.
41:00 it’s self concept that didn’t fulfill its goals or needs through personal identity (just to make it simpler to comprehend)
The theory could be wrong but the methodology they used is good !
This new ! so the good methodology should make the theory good!
Yeah! 25:35
43:00 that’s completely wrong, here but here they talk about consciousness in different way! Not the way they defined it !
They must be careful not to form gangs in the scientific field that do not work to serve science and humanity, but rather to serve the narrow interests of those gangs (the only truth that humanity possesses is science, and it is the only means that can lead them to the absolute truth of this existence). Ethics, values, and human principles are not just a luxury, but rather they are essential to the field of science. Only established human values, ethics, and principles will displace fraudulent and thieves in the scientific field (laws alone are not enough).
Awareness ! They mix this term with the cognitive process and there is no clear distinction! Awareness is the product of the cognitive process (a result). It is linked to the cognitive process as a result, and can be stored and retrieved (Are you aware of what you are saying, etc.), that’s why they say be aware! but they are not aware of that, so it is also said: do you recognise what you are saying or doing? the second sentence is not wrong but they don’t differentiate between consciousness and awareness. very likely that they ….
By the way, consciousness type one and type two are not the same thing they talk about (consciousness and subconscious mind or unconscious mind), they connect consciousness to feelings, emotions, behaviours,….etc (they mix things up because of the lack of understanding ), consciousness type one and type two are tools of recognition, consciousness type one and type are both consciousness but they are different.
25:10 yeah unconscious! They talk about subconsciousness as a repository of emotions,….etc, they called it subconscious mind because it’s hidden part not because it has to do with consciousness itself!
in general they talk about consciousness in a mysterious way of thinking!
The brain is the tool and not everything is necessarily directly connected to the brain cells. Someone’s action to irritate or provoke you with his words is information that affects the brain’s performance, not necessarily Related to brain neurons in absolute way as a direct result (human brain reacts to information).
6:55 it is possible that perception has to do with time but it’s mainly related to consciousness type one, the way they talk about perception seems weird!
9:35 they mix things up badly!
that has to do with personal identity, it’s possible that there’s Obstructing of the process of generating personal identity due to a physical defect in the brain, psychological problems, or even a defect in generating consciousness type one.
The topic you are talking about was discussed in detail (this was on the Skeptic channel on RUclips and closer to the truth), it is difficult to talk in detail here.
40:00 they talk about self concept! They call that subconsciousness or unconscious mind! But consciousness in general is just a tool!
Neural activity must be studied in the science of embryonic development, especially the brain. There is something that uses genes with an advanced coding system (genes are just a tool in the coding process). This will not be easy or sufficient due to the current limited scientific and technological capabilities, but it is just a first step that may reveal an important activity. .
(Brainstem doesn’t play a main role suddenly, it’s probably at the early stages The process of embryo development).
Science must be something sacred, not because it’s god or something like that but because it’s the only truth mankind has.
Logic embedded in both types of consciousness . The belief that logic relates only to type one of consciousness only or only to humans is a mistaken belief! The fact that other irrational beings do not possess a high level of consciousness of the first type or don’t possess it at all does not mean that they do not use logic.
The relationship between mental life and brain itself is similar to computer hardware and software.
Computer software relies on computer hardware.
But human mind and human brain is far more complicated than computers!
The essence behind human mind is related to cycle two (this material world built within cycle two), as if the computer software is what built computer hardware.
It’s still too early for such a way of thinking, better to go step by step.
Rationality-Enlightenment:
logic alone can’t turn any entity into rational entity! if so then watch other animals, Birds, insects, Reptiles in nature, how they build their homes, nests,…how they hunt,…etc (of course that requires a high level of logic,… it’s hard to talk about that in details here), to become real rational intelligent entity you must have high level of consciousness type one, understand who you are, how does your brain work, the two types of consciousness, the difference between self concept and personal identity,….etc. Logic is involved in thinking, reasoning, wisdom,…etc but it’s not enough to define rationality based on logic only! the better you understand yourself and how your brain works (of course in humane positive way) the more rational you become. to concise: there are conditions to fulfill firstly to become real rational intelligent human entity. Does enlightenment have an actual value without the self and mind absorbing the accumulated, filtered scientific knowledge so that the rational person can rise to a higher human mental, moral, and ethical level?! the way they define rationality seems irrational too ! The result is more delusions!