vora is very fun, she gave me some of the most fun matches I've ever had in Paladins. It is a bit sad that she is in an unfortunate state in the meta (not the worst but not very effective at times), now I am back to playing Maeve.
An underrated card is Maw's embrace which gives movement speed when you land weapon shots - its really great for helping you dodge shots especially against Andro or Maeve and helps win a lot of 1v1s
Vora's base kit as a flank just feels so fun. She used to be my main because of how her mobility works and how her stackable damage is ~ Though nowadays, it feels like she just can't counter any other viable player specially with the most of the casual games having 2 healers. Plus, sometimes her dmg can't outburst anyone even when you hit all of your shots which is really sad. I'd love to see her be meta again honestly ~ I had to drop her at level 46 and grind Vii instead which is now my main instead.
IKRRR she was rhe first character that i felt happppyy maining, she is just on base soooooo funnn. But now it’s low key frustrating to play veryy good and have fun but still loose because of how weak she is right now. I have her at level 64 and i just hate that i can barely play her anymore
@@mathisanidioticsport6969 Well i've always been a fan of mobility champs like Maeve & Eevie so since Vora wasn't viable enough; i had to add another champ to the trio :p hence i went with Vii ~
@@soulslayer4561 Andrew Chicken hates vii, so it’s funny that you brazenly say you main him. I don’t usually run into good vii players, so I don’t care too much rn.
vora has to be one of my favorite characters (as she is my third 50+ champ) her kit is so cool, love here scythe and lore. its true that some times she can feel underwelming figthing certain 1v1 i still love playing her
I remember dying to a vora when I was just getting back into the game and as I was watching in the death screen thinking “what a beautiful way to kill”
vora is the perfect example of the balanced character that should be in a game. very well designed, fun to play, accurate in the story and above all non-trivial, aesthetically beautiful, suitable for console and PC players etc. I don't think he's a bad character to use even in the high ranks, but I agree that there are simpler characters, more effective in terms of damage, which makes him a first choice compared to Vora. another confirmation that he is a well-balanced character is that he has received very few nerfs since his release. Let's hope they implement the double tendrill in the basic kit, and then create a more incisive and stronger talent
They are struggling trying to buff her talent DEAFENING SILENCE. They just have to make this talent to increase the jump horizontal distance of her RMB. This will allow her to have a reliable dash and this is viable. Most time you use your RMB you get locked for a brief time and die, so this will be balanced for a Talent.
Honestly the best thing for her is give 2 tendeils base kit (but pre buffed cooldown on it) decrease the effectives of the dark siphon tallent to make it balanced and do whatever u mentioned for the other talent and somehow buff her dmg numbers to suit the meta
I think so. One of his main problems is his movement ability. It has a ridiculously slow start, and It’s very easy to target because of the way it travels. Also, he really only has one viable talent: the one that makes his sword explode. The other two aren’t reliable.
@@user-ts1hs6ki1xFalse. Predatory Instincts is his best talent. No one will be able to run away from you because of how many bounces your chakras can do. This talent always gets hate, I have no idea why, but it is the most agressive way to play him. A sword that can come back to you is more useful than one that can explode. His last talent (always forget the name) is also good, since he can faly across the map and is hard to hit.
Tib's projectiles are too good to ever not be decent, regardless of his bad movement ability. Additionally he also has some of the best ult charge in the game, which grants him access to - imagine that? A really good movement ability that you can cancel out of and conserve ult. His Q has some of the best burst in the game which allows him to rely on the ult less for damage and more for positioning or chasing to finish a kill. Solid champ.
As one of the self proclaimed best betty players of all time you're forgetting about the skill ceiling of movement players especially with a character that has lobbed and off centered projectile and a ultimate that even if it works 100% of the time (I've hit tons of people directly with the rocket and it managed to still not register) sucks because of the delay, terrible turning radius, and pitiful damage that can only one-shot 3 champions in the game if they don't have haven or extra health. Don't get me wrong ive only run into Betty's that are horrible and braindead but never a betty as good as me.
Vora is my highest level champion by far and i like to think i can play her to a really high degree. Her double tendril talent should just be baseline. Her ult is just glorified damage resistance which you can still die in moments to. Its crazy easy to counter and 1/4 the time you do hit an enemy with it doesnt do damage at all. Its a mediocre escape tool and a barely functioning execute
Kind of related but I saw that Omen win rate... which I do not think is indicative of his power level at all. Do you think that Omen's win rate is so low due to the sheer amount of players playing him, leading to just a higher level of players/bad players picking him up in a match? I feel like his DPS is insane and so far does not seem underpowered at all.
It may be so. He needs a rework. His right click feels useless, and his shotgun mode it just straight unreliable. Also, I think the card that buffs his dmg should be removed. I hate getting two shot bursted for 1800. It’s annoying how powerful it is.
@@user-ts1hs6ki1x Actually now that you mention it, the win rate makes sense. Omen’s DPS is busted ONLY with his second talent due to his range and consistency. Otherwise his normal shotgun is indeed quite jank
Overall champion win rates are much lower when looking at the big picture, yes. That's why I use high ranked data for gaining an accurate assessment of a character's win rate, because players at high ranks are good at the game and know how to play their characters well. Sadly, we can't look at that for Omen yet, because he's not in ranked.
She is. Her kit is all about self heal. Cauterize shuts it down hard. Her damage output isn’t the best for a flank as well. Don’t get me wrong, she does have a fun base kit, but in the current circumstances, she gets out classes by the majority of other flanks in each or her strengths.
@@user-ts1hs6ki1xyea, i am a vora main and she is not for the mera rn. The only way i can play her is a dark siphon tallent (for more damage) and max reduce cooldowns on tendril to still keep her flanky and not a brain dead damage. They reallllly need ro add 2 tendrils to base kit, and decrease the effectiveness of the dark siphon talent to compensate and then yea buff dmg numbers to a lil more bursty. Or they can increase attack speed
@@user-ts1hs6ki1x It's true that she got mediocre dmg output in her autos and high cd on her mobility but ig that's how she is supposed to be played... I have a few hundred hrs on her and imo she is more like a constant dmg/caut applier than a dive and kill instantly flanker which can also be done if the enemy is alone using her dark paiphon normals and obliteration combo
I think Vora could be great even if she's easy to acces, but it's like everything... And with the fact that she does many things, she's hard to master, and that's why i prefer Maeve over it. But i saw good Vora players so at least she's still picked, not like very niche characters like damba
I used to main Vora but I seriously lost my confidence with her cause almost every game I was playing her I went negative and made my team put up with a dead weight. I'm not as bad with her now but I'm always hesitant on picking her.
I understand they are maybe newer players and matchmaking was poor, but consistently calling them bad is just downright disrespectful, not to mention you are doing this publicly and shaming them.Imagine one of them just got Paladins and wanted to watch how to get better, only to see you calling them names throughout the match. It's just quite disgusting behavior really, and the reason many people drop games like this, toxicity.
this title is correct, vora is fun and a baddie
Bruh moment❗️❗️
@@La_Win69 are you saying you think vora is ugly?
@@sebastianaltamirano4991no way you're calling a video game character cute
@@emanueldargan no way a video caracter can be cute
@@sebastianaltamirano4991 weirdo
vora is very fun, she gave me some of the most fun matches I've ever had in Paladins. It is a bit sad that she is in an unfortunate state in the meta (not the worst but not very effective at times), now I am back to playing Maeve.
An underrated card is Maw's embrace which gives movement speed when you land weapon shots - its really great for helping you dodge shots especially against Andro or Maeve and helps win a lot of 1v1s
This is an awesome video. I love how chilled out you are while still giving good tips about the game.
Vora's base kit as a flank just feels so fun. She used to be my main because of how her mobility works and how her stackable damage is ~
Though nowadays, it feels like she just can't counter any other viable player specially with the most of the casual games having 2 healers. Plus, sometimes her dmg can't outburst anyone even when you hit all of your shots which is really sad. I'd love to see her be meta again honestly ~ I had to drop her at level 46 and grind Vii instead which is now my main instead.
IKRRR she was rhe first character that i felt happppyy maining, she is just on base soooooo funnn. But now it’s low key frustrating to play veryy good and have fun but still loose because of how weak she is right now. I have her at level 64 and i just hate that i can barely play her anymore
“…and grind vii which is now my main instead”
“What?”
“Now I know that sounds bad…”
*bang bang bang*
@@mathisanidioticsport6969 Well i've always been a fan of mobility champs like Maeve & Eevie so since Vora wasn't viable enough; i had to add another champ to the trio :p hence i went with Vii ~
@@humid3208 I feel you fam! Couldn't agree more.
@@soulslayer4561 Andrew Chicken hates vii, so it’s funny that you brazenly say you main him. I don’t usually run into good vii players, so I don’t care too much rn.
Vora is my favorite flank, good lore, good kit, very fun to play
vora has to be one of my favorite characters (as she is my third 50+ champ) her kit is so cool, love here scythe and lore. its true that some times she can feel underwelming figthing certain 1v1 i still love playing her
I remember dying to a vora when I was just getting back into the game and as I was watching in the death screen thinking “what a beautiful way to kill”
vora is the perfect example of the balanced character that should be in a game. very well designed, fun to play, accurate in the story and above all non-trivial, aesthetically beautiful, suitable for console and PC players etc.
I don't think he's a bad character to use even in the high ranks, but I agree that there are simpler characters, more effective in terms of damage, which makes him a first choice compared to Vora. another confirmation that he is a well-balanced character is that he has received very few nerfs since his release.
Let's hope they implement the double tendrill in the basic kit, and then create a more incisive and stronger talent
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She not being meta does not equal bad. This is why I hate metas. They always take out the fun in a game.
Hot take: Hi-Rez should have compensated vora when they put caut into base kit because one of things that made vora good was her self sustain.
They are struggling trying to buff her talent DEAFENING SILENCE. They just have to make this talent to increase the jump horizontal distance of her RMB. This will allow her to have a reliable dash and this is viable. Most time you use your RMB you get locked for a brief time and die, so this will be balanced for a Talent.
Honestly the best thing for her is give 2 tendeils base kit (but pre buffed cooldown on it) decrease the effectives of the dark siphon tallent to make it balanced and do whatever u mentioned for the other talent and somehow buff her dmg numbers to suit the meta
@@humid3208 They could separate the cooldown of her 2 tendrils like with Caspian's dashes.
I see Life Rip on quick play alot on more than just Vora. Typically DPS and flanks, but sometimes even on Tanks or Supports
Do you think tiberius is the same as vora but for the damage class? He's decent, very rich personality, and used a lot by people
I think so. One of his main problems is his movement ability. It has a ridiculously slow start, and It’s very easy to target because of the way it travels. Also, he really only has one viable talent: the one that makes his sword explode. The other two aren’t reliable.
@@user-ts1hs6ki1xFalse. Predatory Instincts is his best talent. No one will be able to run away from you because of how many bounces your chakras can do. This talent always gets hate, I have no idea why, but it is the most agressive way to play him.
A sword that can come back to you is more useful than one that can explode.
His last talent (always forget the name) is also good, since he can faly across the map and is hard to hit.
Tib's projectiles are too good to ever not be decent, regardless of his bad movement ability. Additionally he also has some of the best ult charge in the game, which grants him access to - imagine that? A really good movement ability that you can cancel out of and conserve ult. His Q has some of the best burst in the game which allows him to rely on the ult less for damage and more for positioning or chasing to finish a kill. Solid champ.
I like Vora because she's connected to my favorite character Yagorath.
Andrew, I just had the greatest idea! You should make a video ranking all the Siege maps 👀 That would be sick
He did that already I think😅...
popular opinion, vora double tendril should be base kit, at the talent should either be changed or add a 3rd charge
Vora ia fun and i dont mind the switch up w commentary over vid or play through convo
How can I find people to play with, I had a duo but he quit playing and I need some friends to play ranked and etc, I’m teachable also ON pc and Xbox
As one of the self proclaimed best betty players of all time you're forgetting about the skill ceiling of movement players especially with a character that has lobbed and off centered projectile and a ultimate that even if it works 100% of the time (I've hit tons of people directly with the rocket and it managed to still not register) sucks because of the delay, terrible turning radius, and pitiful damage that can only one-shot 3 champions in the game if they don't have haven or extra health. Don't get me wrong ive only run into Betty's that are horrible and braindead but never a betty as good as me.
Vora is my highest level champion by far and i like to think i can play her to a really high degree. Her double tendril talent should just be baseline. Her ult is just glorified damage resistance which you can still die in moments to. Its crazy easy to counter and 1/4 the time you do hit an enemy with it doesnt do damage at all. Its a mediocre escape tool and a barely functioning execute
Maybe a video on zhin?
Kind of related but I saw that Omen win rate... which I do not think is indicative of his power level at all. Do you think that Omen's win rate is so low due to the sheer amount of players playing him, leading to just a higher level of players/bad players picking him up in a match? I feel like his DPS is insane and so far does not seem underpowered at all.
It may be so. He needs a rework. His right click feels useless, and his shotgun mode it just straight unreliable. Also, I think the card that buffs his dmg should be removed. I hate getting two shot bursted for 1800. It’s annoying how powerful it is.
@@user-ts1hs6ki1x Actually now that you mention it, the win rate makes sense. Omen’s DPS is busted ONLY with his second talent due to his range and consistency. Otherwise his normal shotgun is indeed quite jank
Overall champion win rates are much lower when looking at the big picture, yes. That's why I use high ranked data for gaining an accurate assessment of a character's win rate, because players at high ranks are good at the game and know how to play their characters well. Sadly, we can't look at that for Omen yet, because he's not in ranked.
what happened to this bot? I can't even find the bot-stuff section now
That's weird to see people think that vora is bad
She is. Her kit is all about self heal. Cauterize shuts it down hard. Her damage output isn’t the best for a flank as well. Don’t get me wrong, she does have a fun base kit, but in the current circumstances, she gets out classes by the majority of other flanks in each or her strengths.
@@user-ts1hs6ki1xyea, i am a vora main and she is not for the mera rn. The only way i can play her is a dark siphon tallent (for more damage) and max reduce cooldowns on tendril to still keep her flanky and not a brain dead damage.
They reallllly need ro add 2 tendrils to base kit, and decrease the effectiveness of the dark siphon talent to compensate and then yea buff dmg numbers to a lil more bursty. Or they can increase attack speed
@@user-ts1hs6ki1x It's true that she got mediocre dmg output in her autos and high cd on her mobility but ig that's how she is supposed to be played... I have a few hundred hrs on her and imo she is more like a constant dmg/caut applier than a dive and kill instantly flanker which can also be done if the enemy is alone using her dark paiphon normals and obliteration combo
What happened to make Vora 'non meta', she used to be always picked back whgen i play 1-2 updates ago?
I think Vora could be great even if she's easy to acces, but it's like everything... And with the fact that she does many things, she's hard to master, and that's why i prefer Maeve over it. But i saw good Vora players so at least she's still picked, not like very niche characters like damba
i think live commentary is always better
*points at myself
I haven't checked in a while but I think koga and skye have a higher win rate than 7 and double the pick rate..
Yay my main🎉🎉🎉
buff her nerf vii
Ypu did a great job. I enjoyed this video. IO is my main healer, where does she land?
Vora was last actual good champ added to game.
They have 4 flanks, but inara chose not to use a treacherous ground build?
Smh.
I used to main Vora but I seriously lost my confidence with her cause almost every game I was playing her I went negative and made my team put up with a dead weight. I'm not as bad with her now but I'm always hesitant on picking her.
I like vore she is so nice 😊
VORA GANG
bro rambling about lore while cleaning up an entire team after all of his died wtf
I understand they are maybe newer players and matchmaking was poor, but consistently calling them bad is just downright disrespectful, not to mention you are doing this publicly and shaming them.Imagine one of them just got Paladins and wanted to watch how to get better, only to see you calling them names throughout the match. It's just quite disgusting behavior really, and the reason many people drop games like this, toxicity.
exactly
Dont be fooled 99% of those picks are just kreepers 🤣
Personally I'd like if you did a voice over of a complete match rather than speaking over clips.
vora is cute
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