So as far as the positioning question about the GUO's base at 49:00 . In AoS it's cat rules. If it sits it fits. That move is 100% ok. as long as the model isn't sliding or being held up by a part of the model that isn't attached to the base(IE, hanging onto a wall by wings or some such) then it's fine to place it there! You can even do the same thing with multi-model units so long as they can remain in coherency. I'd love to give you the nomenclature or exact ruling. But the reason that works is because there ISNT a ruling against it. so long as the model is upright and not moving around(Again IE falling or sliding) then it's perfectly ok!
Eh games are permissive. You can do what you are said you can do. Not can't do what is forbidden. Just because there isn't rule prohibiting doesn't mean it's legal.
What rules allow though is go up and even stay there. Can't physically put it there like with straight wall? Put a marker(dice etc) to indicate at what height it is.
So no can't put model slanted as no rule allow it. Guo can move over those ruins and be on top though. In practice can put that way as hard to have float in air but measurements done where the guo is considered to be from
@@bakuchidancer correct games are permissive. And the movement there is within what aos permits for movement. There is no rules for overhang or tilted bases other than and FAQ that states the unit cannot use its model to stabilize its position (i.e. no using wings or a weapon as a kickstand to keep itself still). If the base fits and stays then it's a legal move per 9.0 of the core rules
ON TERRAIN AND MOVEMENT: you are correct I beleive, Any model can climb, move onto or over terrain, see Basic Rules, 9.3 and the errata/faq for 9.3, where ot says "for simplicity and ease of play, the rules allow any model to climb any terrain feature." It also mentions the base is considered to be parallel during this movement/climbing. The parallel part could make the range of their base getting within a half inch of the target base weird. There isn't direct wording for the situation you ask, but I'm certain you would be able to make that charge/move into/onto terrain, given you have enough movement. The gigantic base slanted over a wall shouldn't actually disturb mechanics of play, but is a bit more odd looking compared to a small rock under a 32mm base.
A couple of things with Deepkin. First is you are unfortunately severely nerfing the sharks shooting damage output by not taking harpoons. They are 4 shots -1 d3 damage each. Maybe just keep a single net launcher? Second is don't let the king fight last, Unstoppable Fury is +2 attack for his polearm for each unit within 3", if you had taken him first, he would have had 2 more attacks, for a total of 8 (with potion) from the Blightkings being nearby. Also, Deepkin is a glass cannon army, if you go in for the early charge with eels and sharks, make sure you also get the king along with you, as he can once pr. battle switch D3 units (including himself) into high tide, and have the strike first rule plus unstoppable fury rule. With this army, you need to absolutely kill what you fly into. Lastly, give the Aspect of the Sea Eidiolon a look, he's a great caster for the army. The Tidecaster is unfortunately a bit meh.
Cheers for the tips, I'm sure Beard will find them useful. For what its worth he ran the Aspect of the Sea in their OnDemand debut, and boy he did some work!
Every time I see AoS minis I think they are really the gold standard for minis in wargames or any table top game, for that matter. These are also beautifully painted and presented.
Nurgle toughness vs fishy slipperiness. I think I'll go for the toughness. I'll also echo others here when I say that I think both these armies are beautifully painted. Great job all you guys.
For your doubts about finish a move with the base in a odd position, meaning not plane on a surface is real in aos. Looks odd indeed, but for practical reasons is how it is. Think that in aos some miniatures have huge bases that would not fit well in most game tables because of the scenery. They would be very limited on their movements, so for a practical reasons you can end the movement in the middle of a wall or climbing a scenery. The only thing you can't do is end the movement if your base is above other miniature's base, the place right under your miniature's base must be clear of other miniature's bases. Keep it up with AoS, i love it!
Love watching these battle reports. I learn a lot as I'm new to AoS and 40k. Both armies are amazingly painted! Also, I've been curious... what are you lot using for those dice bags on yoir hips? Seems like a good way to keep up with how many die you have to cast
Love the content! Thank you and please keep it up. Just a quick thought, the A.king could have tried to smash to rubble the gnarlmaw as a monstrous action in Nurgle turn two. Could have prevented the disease point and slowed down contagion generation
@Beard though match up againts Nurgle. Little trick for the King: Pop ''Lord of Tides'' in round one or two. Pick d3 friendly units to be affected by the High Tide. Pick the king and you can bennefit form the Command Trait ''Unstoppable Fury'' twice in a game. But be carfull to pick ur battles. Because the King likes to die when he gets hit! :D
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I could be wrong, but when you heal a unit that has wounds and disease, don’t you have to choose one or the other to heal? I didn’t think you could heal both at the same time.
The Diseased rule says when you heal, for each wound you're allowed to heal you can remove a Disease instead. Doesn't say you can't combine the two when healing
@@thepastrychef8014 great, thats good to know. Thank you and I really enjoyed this battle report. I am really enjoying the AOS content and I am hoping that when I return to the UK I might be able to come and play one of you lot sometime if you take guests
It says “instead of healing” which means you can’t do both. So if you can heal 3 wounds you could do 1 remove disease, and 2 to heal. But removing diseases prevents you from allocating that heal to return wounds.
@@thepastrychef8014 confused then as I'm sure you didn't. You did for the second combat yes, just never saw first so thought you had missed, okay then if you did.
are the mustaches a movember thing or are beard and chef slowly turning into the same person? chef basically just needs a hat and the prophecy is complete
As in resolution or points? Resolution wise, no. The weight of those files would be completely lost on the majority of our viewers that watch on mobile devices or laptops. We just can’t justify the bandwidth cost to upload everything in 4K based on those numbers. Points wise, yes - we do have larger games occasionally :)
Hey to Chef, I have a disciples of tzeentch army and battletome that I was looking to sell or give away and wanted to see if you be interested. It's not painted but it's 1540 points worth of army with a daemon prince as well
If you are reading this and haven't subscribed to their on demand yet WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! look at the quality of this battle report and you get a ton more for like $6 a month? C'mon!
Chef was *really* sick, wasn't he? He looks like a man that recently climbed out of a grave someone dug too soon. Been there, man. Glad to see him back. Nurgle would prefer not to kill *everyone* that worships at the cauldron. Hard to keep followers that way.
Oh, yeah? Well I've watched several times for background noise and commented 3 tjmes. It does notbin but help the channel, no matter my feelings for AIDS of Sigmas. Does that bother you?
These Deepkin is one of the most gorgeous armies I've ever seen. Good lord, Fletcher is such an awesome addition to your already lovely team!
Looking at your avatar (spodermin), I have to re-write 'Idoneth Deepkin' as 'Idon Depkin', and it makes me smile
The pure fun you have with these games make watching them so enjoyable 😁
Just reminding you guys that you're the best battle report channel on the web, by far. Best production quality, best cast, best armies.
Thanks for the support!
Agree! And a very funy one!
somehow 200% more fun than most 40k reports maybe its just the setting doing it for me.
So as far as the positioning question about the GUO's base at 49:00 . In AoS it's cat rules. If it sits it fits. That move is 100% ok. as long as the model isn't sliding or being held up by a part of the model that isn't attached to the base(IE, hanging onto a wall by wings or some such) then it's fine to place it there! You can even do the same thing with multi-model units so long as they can remain in coherency. I'd love to give you the nomenclature or exact ruling. But the reason that works is because there ISNT a ruling against it. so long as the model is upright and not moving around(Again IE falling or sliding) then it's perfectly ok!
Came to the comments looking for this glad my memory was in check and I completely agree with you there. Also funny cat joke XD
Eh games are permissive. You can do what you are said you can do. Not can't do what is forbidden.
Just because there isn't rule prohibiting doesn't mean it's legal.
What rules allow though is go up and even stay there. Can't physically put it there like with straight wall? Put a marker(dice etc) to indicate at what height it is.
So no can't put model slanted as no rule allow it. Guo can move over those ruins and be on top though. In practice can put that way as hard to have float in air but measurements done where the guo is considered to be from
@@bakuchidancer correct games are permissive. And the movement there is within what aos permits for movement. There is no rules for overhang or tilted bases other than and FAQ that states the unit cannot use its model to stabilize its position (i.e. no using wings or a weapon as a kickstand to keep itself still). If the base fits and stays then it's a legal move per 9.0 of the core rules
ON TERRAIN AND MOVEMENT: you are correct I beleive, Any model can climb, move onto or over terrain, see Basic Rules, 9.3 and the errata/faq for 9.3, where ot says "for simplicity and ease of play, the rules allow any model to climb any terrain feature."
It also mentions the base is considered to be parallel during this movement/climbing. The parallel part could make the range of their base getting within a half inch of the target base weird.
There isn't direct wording for the situation you ask, but I'm certain you would be able to make that charge/move into/onto terrain, given you have enough movement.
The gigantic base slanted over a wall shouldn't actually disturb mechanics of play, but is a bit more odd looking compared to a small rock under a 32mm base.
Good to know, that's what we thought, just feels really odd mechanically 😅
@@thepastrychef8014 Sigmar be like that sometimes, 😆
A couple of things with Deepkin. First is you are unfortunately severely nerfing the sharks shooting damage output by not taking harpoons. They are 4 shots -1 d3 damage each. Maybe just keep a single net launcher?
Second is don't let the king fight last, Unstoppable Fury is +2 attack for his polearm for each unit within 3", if you had taken him first, he would have had 2 more attacks, for a total of 8 (with potion) from the Blightkings being nearby.
Also, Deepkin is a glass cannon army, if you go in for the early charge with eels and sharks, make sure you also get the king along with you, as he can once pr. battle switch D3 units (including himself) into high tide, and have the strike first rule plus unstoppable fury rule. With this army, you need to absolutely kill what you fly into.
Lastly, give the Aspect of the Sea Eidiolon a look, he's a great caster for the army. The Tidecaster is unfortunately a bit meh.
Cheers for the tips, I'm sure Beard will find them useful. For what its worth he ran the Aspect of the Sea in their OnDemand debut, and boy he did some work!
@@thepastrychef8014 Cheers. Might have to switch on my old OnDemand sub again :D
Every time I see AoS minis I think they are really the gold standard for minis in wargames or any table top game, for that matter. These are also beautifully painted and presented.
Akhelian king ftw!
Really? I think the absolute opposite, but there is no argue about taste
"I can see actually" made me laugh way more than it should have.
The chemistry between you two is amazing. It's like you've been best friends from birth! Also, those WWE references at 45:45 is hilarious.
I like to imagine that anytime Chef and Beard hit the "oooh!" together off-camera, it looks something akin to the surprised Shaq face
What a beautiful army, arguably one of the best examples of idoneth deepkin I’ve ever seen
Nurgle toughness vs fishy slipperiness. I think I'll go for the toughness. I'll also echo others here when I say that I think both these armies are beautifully painted. Great job all you guys.
Glad Chef is feeling better and passed Papa Nurgles blessing onto the Maggotkin 😊
New to the channel, very much enjoyed the content!
Very uplifting setting :D
Gained a sub ^^
Glory to the Grandfather ;P
Welcome on board and thank you!
LOVE the close ups of the minis!!
Jazz conch - terror music of the seas...Great looking armies! Please keep the Sigmar content coming
Ship sailing off at the end was hilarious 😂 ⛵️ 👋
This was incredibly enjoyable to watch!
Loving the Sigmar content! Subscribed!
For your doubts about finish a move with the base in a odd position, meaning not plane on a surface is real in aos. Looks odd indeed, but for practical reasons is how it is. Think that in aos some miniatures have huge bases that would not fit well in most game tables because of the scenery. They would be very limited on their movements, so for a practical reasons you can end the movement in the middle of a wall or climbing a scenery. The only thing you can't do is end the movement if your base is above other miniature's base, the place right under your miniature's base must be clear of other miniature's bases. Keep it up with AoS, i love it!
Love watching these battle reports. I learn a lot as I'm new to AoS and 40k. Both armies are amazingly painted! Also, I've been curious... what are you lot using for those dice bags on yoir hips? Seems like a good way to keep up with how many die you have to cast
They're our own dice bags available from our shop on the website, the link is in the description 😁
@@thepastrychef8014 Do you ship to the U.S.?
Seeing more and more of these battles I am now desperately trying to figure out which one of you guys is going to be the gitz player of your group.
Holy shit the soft multicoloured deepkin look bloody gorgeous!!
They have a real Deep Sea vibe to them, Fletcher you absolute mad man.
Amazing and entertaining battle report.
Love the content! Thank you and please keep it up.
Just a quick thought, the A.king could have tried to smash to rubble the gnarlmaw as a monstrous action in Nurgle turn two. Could have prevented the disease point and slowed down contagion generation
Edit, sorry he isn't a monster I see now.
Alas Beard needed a turtle for that!
Right you are!
For next time, a nautical themed goodbye is "fair winds and following seas" :D
One quick note: I think you missed both players taking a Heroic Action in each player's turn. :) Love the armies and table here. Great game!
Im looking into starting a maggotkin army with the new harbinger book out. Will you guys be doing a updated batrep with new rules??
Any chance we're going to see StD match with Archaon in it? Really curious to see how he holds up with the new battle tomb :). Love your AoS videos!
@Beard though match up againts Nurgle. Little trick for the King: Pop ''Lord of Tides'' in round one or two. Pick d3 friendly units to be affected by the High Tide. Pick the king and you can bennefit form the Command Trait ''Unstoppable Fury'' twice in a game. But be carfull to pick ur battles. Because the King likes to die when he gets hit! :D
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Also, glad to hear you better Chef and I love all the Sigmar content. Wallet doesn’t though 😅
This is my first time watching AoS- Nurgle list is 1455 and the other is 2k points, is that right?
The Nurgle are 1950 😅
@@thepastrychef8014 thank you, thought it must be some nurgle shenanigans where 1/3 of your army was coming back! 🤣
love the 2 Cool and Rikishi reference. talk about old school.
top tier editing!
I’m pimpity pumpernickel pumped that you guys are doing AOS now a days.
FOR THE GRANDFATHER THE LORD OF ALL FLIES!!!! I love the AoS content!
Right on time
I could be wrong, but when you heal a unit that has wounds and disease, don’t you have to choose one or the other to heal? I didn’t think you could heal both at the same time.
The Diseased rule says when you heal, for each wound you're allowed to heal you can remove a Disease instead. Doesn't say you can't combine the two when healing
@@thepastrychef8014 great, thats good to know. Thank you and I really enjoyed this battle report.
I am really enjoying the AOS content and I am hoping that when I return to the UK I might be able to come and play one of you lot sometime if you take guests
It says “instead of healing” which means you can’t do both. So if you can heal 3 wounds you could do 1 remove disease, and 2 to heal. But removing diseases prevents you from allocating that heal to return wounds.
For the great unclean one battle with the Lord, did he forget to do his monstrous action, his loathsome flesh works against all models.
I did do the roll on camera 🤷♂️
@@thepastrychef8014 confused then as I'm sure you didn't. You did for the second combat yes, just never saw first so thought you had missed, okay then if you did.
are the mustaches a movember thing or are beard and chef slowly turning into the same person? chef basically just needs a hat and the prophecy is complete
Movember. Such is the way with filming g in advance haha
We will learn together. Weather you like it or not
The armies look so epic!
Just wanted to ask if any plans for 4k uploads in the future/near future?
As in resolution or points? Resolution wise, no. The weight of those files would be completely lost on the majority of our viewers that watch on mobile devices or laptops. We just can’t justify the bandwidth cost to upload everything in 4K based on those numbers.
Points wise, yes - we do have larger games occasionally :)
@@tabletoptactics thanks for the reply, was more resolution wise, understandable though.
Always fun to watch!
I hope you are also enjoying playing AoS. :)
Eels up inside ya.....Finding an entrance where they can.
YAAAAAAAAAS DEEPKIN!!!! You absolute legends
Of course Chef would run the new army, he mastered Age of Sigmar after all
😅
Gotta wonder what’s in that potion that makes charging a Great Unclean One sound like a good idea. 😂
Dreams
💛To prove my loyalty and passion for Warhammer, I will put the Like to each of the 22 videos in your Age of Sigmar playlist right NOW!!!
Maybe I need glasses but I did read: " Idoneth Derpkin" 🤣
It's canon now
Good morning.
good morning😆
Those shirts go hard!
Awesome!
Great game team.
Yes! The idoneth are so cool
you guys are so funny!!
Comments for the true 5th chaos god!! The lord of Algorithm!! Also.. when are we getting the gitz! :D
Truly the mightiest of the Gods.
Gitz will arrive when the Bad Moon is right!
45:25🤣🤣🤣
Just me or the video kinda dark on phone?
comment for Nagash. The Tithe, you see
Love love love❤❤❤
SIGMAR BABYYYYYYY
Chef, counting is hard
Old school wrestling comments always crack me up
Hey to Chef, I have a disciples of tzeentch army and battletome that I was looking to sell or give away and wanted to see if you be interested. It's not painted but it's 1540 points worth of army with a daemon prince as well
Sounds very kind! If you email us at grotty@tabletoptactics.tv, we can look at discussing further 🙂
@@thepastrychef8014 excellent.
Likes for the like god and comments for his throne!
Praise be!
Ah, yes, the majestic Beast of Nurgle aka Scotty 2 Hottie aka Scotty 2 Grotty.
I hate myself for not saying that now 😅
"If I was a deepkin"
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@@ewanhogg3068 YES!!
Retreating during high tide...shame... 😉
More fish elves!
Plenty more to come!
I am one with the plants
Love my oozy boys!
If you are reading this and haven't subscribed to their on demand yet WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! look at the quality of this battle report and you get a ton more for like $6 a month? C'mon!
Thanks Justin! ❤️
Eels!!!!
God I miss oldworld
Chef was *really* sick, wasn't he?
He looks like a man that recently climbed out of a grave someone dug too soon. Been there, man. Glad to see him back. Nurgle would prefer not to kill *everyone* that worships at the cauldron. Hard to keep followers that way.
I can't get into age of smegma, but I'll always check out some Nurgle action.
You can always just not watch or comment. Plenty of 40k for you to drool over.
Oh, yeah? Well I've watched several times for background noise and commented 3 tjmes.
It does notbin but help the channel, no matter my feelings for AIDS of Sigmas.
Does that bother you?