Idk man. This is my perspective on it. Every single season every NFL team attempts to build an elite roster through the off-season, draft and FA's to build chemistry and develop into a powerhouse NFC & AFC to reach the" Super Bowl", which is hands the ultimate goal of every single team in the league and their coaching and executive staff... So why would getting just an MVP award be more important or valuable than helping your team win 2 Super Bowls against perhaps the greatest NFL Dynasty we will ever see in the New England Patriots? It wouldn't because having 2 Lombardies and rings over other elite HOF QBs speaks for itself.
This convo was above Joy's sports intellect. James broke it down perfectly and Joy questioned it. She has to excuse herself from any football convos going forward. 2:00
Sometimes Greatness is not just talent....it's when that talent shows up...when it was MONEY time Eli Manning was on point and he delivered. I love Aaron Rodgers and he may be arguably ''the Greatest all around QB in terms of talent and skill set 💯 but Eli was no slouch, and a 2 time Super Bowl MVP who beat whom many consider the 🐐 and so we gotta put some Respect on Eli name...and I say all of this as a die hard JETS Fan! ❤
Cj should have said NEITHER! And said I'll have my own career! Because the dawg is young. What if CJ turns out to be a bust and gets hurt? Or what if he has a better career than both?? Honestly this was a dumb question.
Don't forget people, Eli went into Green Bay in 2011 during Aaron's MVP season and beat him, not to mention how he and the giants ended Farve's reign in Green Bay in 07
No the GIANTS went into Green Bay and won. This clown narrative like its one guy out there is ridiculous. Especially when Eli's Giants were more known for there dang defense lmao
@@michaelacker1617 that's true, but Rodgers didn't finish the job. When Eli got passed him, he went on to win the Superbowl. At the end of the day rings mean more to people than individual success.
James Jones finna cry. Shady talks like he really participated in either one of those super bowls that boy jersey was clean both games. C'mon man lol 🤣🤣🤣
@@MeBihhhhYou can be as great as the Giants defense was both years, but if your quarterback doesn’t deliver/play it safe when the game is on the line then what good is the defense?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m with the face on the line, what good is your quarterback if your defense can’t stop the other team from scoring? I’ll never understand you Eli fan boys as if he wasn’t horrible outside of the 2 super bowls 😂 Eli lead the league in turnovers 3 different times
So did rodgers. He didn't play for mvps, he just played goo's enough to win mvp. He wanted the Lombardi. It just shows 1 man cant win by themselves no matter how good he is.
That’s sad that CJ stroud rather be a mediocre QB who managed 2 great playoff runs thanks to his defense. I would’ve thought stroud wanted to be great 🤦♂️
Slice it however you want to that man got 2 super bowl appearances and 2 super bowl wins and that's what stroud chooses everybody is entitled to their own opinions
That's the thing we takk about Eli post and him beating Tom. That's it! Everything else he averages even to this day we are arguing should Eli be in the hall of fame.
To be fair Eli was a top 10 QB 4 times in his career 2009 : 4021 yds, 93.1 rating, 27 TD, 14 INT, 7.9 YPA 2011 : 4,933 yds, 92.9 rating, 29 TD, 16 INT, 8.4 YPA 2014 : 4,410 yds, 92.1 rating, 30 TD, 14 INT, 7.3 YPA 2015 : 4,332 yds, 93.6 rating, 35 TD, 14 INT, 7.2 YPA Obviously he’s no Rodgers, but he did have good years where he was top 10
@@brandonmoyd2942 by your logic Nick foles, Mitch trubisky and baker mayfield were top top 10 before. Eli lead the league in turnovers 4 different times
@@kingjames361right and plus Eli didn’t beat him the giants beat him. They want to say MVP’s is an individual award. Well Super Bowl wins is a team accomplishment they trying to give to one individual
They're acting like CJ thinks Eli is the GOAT.... they completely missed the point. CJ is just saying he wants to win championships, if he could have had the option to pick any QB all time I promise you it wouldn't have been Eli.
He should have said neither and said he'll take his own career because if thar young boy is confident he wouldn't have take on other ppl resume cauae he might pan our better or bust!
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m you gotta relook at the question that was asked. It's like saying would you take your father's career or your uncle. Look both are great but if you are still young. Bet on yourself that you can be better. And don't be a media sheep because Eli was not all about team success okay? He racked I'm 300 mill with the giants and let's not forget he forced he way out to not be drafted by the chargers. And for Aaron how can you say he was all about stats when the Packers GM was not known for not signing big free agency when the packers need to fill in major spots.
Eli, was in the wildcard both years and rose up to the occasion for the 2 Super Bowls, Aaron folded last time he was in the playoffs, Eli:8-4, Aaron:11-10, come on now, Eli’s bright spots are much better than Aaron’s , some of those mvps he barely edged out the 2nd in voting
How many MVP's has Eli had? And I don't want to hear that it's an individual award because your offense runs through the QB. A QB can't have an MVP season without the team being good. Eli was a .500 QB and an interception machine. I'd much rather have a career of one the greatest to ever play the game.
@@MikeJones-zd6xi 4 MVP's, a ring and widely considered one of the greatest ever. That's underachieving to you? It takes a whole team effort to win SB's. He can only do his part. The majority of SB teams that Brady and Eli were on, were led by defense. Rodgers never had that until now.
2011 divisional playoff game in Green Bay. The Packers were 15-1. Aaron Rodgers was the MVP of the league. Both Eli Manning and Aaron Rodgers had 1 Super Bowl ring. Both QB’s had the opportunity to deny the other of their second ring. Final score: Giants 37 Packers 20 Eli Manning: 21 for 33, 330 yards and 3 touchdowns Aaron Rodgers: 26 for 46, 264 yards and 2 touchdowns
@LuhChance504 the point is pretty clear. If the goal of the game is to win the superbowl, then any person who isn't completely self absorbed would rather be in Eli's position having won 2 championships and beaten Brady twice and not being known as a post season choke artist. Of course if you're totally delusional and obsessed with yourself then you'd prefer the 4 MVPs and basically nothing to show for it. But that attitude is how you manage to flunk out of the playoffs every year.
@@jml5100 eli never won a playoff game outside of those 2 sb runs . And here u talking about flunking out of the playoff 😂 yall dudes these days gotta learn context
The question was better career, not better quarterback, and if the goal of playing sports is to win, then you would have to say Eli. Joy was the only one who addressed the question, without making it an argument about who is the better quarterback.
True, and to beat an undefeated team, with the best coach, a top 10 defense, a top 3 greatest WR, and the so called "GOAT" twice in the biggest sports event in the world, says you're pretty good.
Okay but at the same time you’re only bringing up Eli’s greatest moments not his whole career. Eli’s career was seen as being the idiot savant. No all pros, led the league in interceptions multiple times, whole face is a meme, can’t win a playoff game. But then in two years does the unthinkable
@@BruceLee-sw9gw No one is debating the better player, the conversation is which career you’d take. Ofc I think Aaron is better than Eli, but rings are rings and he beat the goat twice for them so taking his career ain’t a crazy take.
Amen! They want to hold rings over Lamar’s head and talk about MVPs are just individual awards and now that’s all that matters! Lol Rogers was up in two NFC Championship games and still got beat by a lesser QB (Wilson)! Rogers is not that good and he should compared to Flacco especially bc Flacco has more playoff wins than Rogers! Lol
Eli holds the record for most passing yards in a single playoff run. He won it for the Giants twice. And I'm not even a Giants fan, but I remember those playoff runs and one the defense was great, the other Eli put up more than anybody so far, and did what it took to beat the 19-0 Patriots.
They also failed to mention that Eli Manning went to Lambeau Field & knocked off a 15-1 Packer team that everybody swore was gonna repeat & win the Superbowl too. 😂
@@cameronzwicke5761 Most passing yards in a playoff run is such a misleading stat. He had four games, multiple QBs would have blown his yards out of the water if they didn’t get a first week bye.
Eli's legacy will be remembered decades from now for showing up when it mattered most. Rodgers' will be remembered as another talented Packers QB who lost his mind.
I can't stand Aaron Rodgers, but you're delusional. Rodgers is consistently talked about as one of the greatest, and Eli is not ever talked about that wya because everyone who watched him knows he wasn't that good.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m yup. THE PACKERS couldn't get it done. You're out of your MF mind if you're saying eli won those superbowls.... quit disrespecting Mr strahan and associates by acting like those trophies have elis name on them. defense wins championships. Eli 2 sb show that. Rodgers had top 10 defense 1 time. He won the sb. Stafford, same thing. Peytons 2nd ring, same thing. And peyton got benched during the season for playing so horrible. Baltimore SB wins, Defense. Wilson with Seattle, defense.... everyone needs to take a step back and take eli nuts out your mouths
@@blackanimelover18unfortunately no matter how much you hate to admit it . Aaron Rodgers has had LOADED teams and underperformed , literally the #1 seeding in playoff multiple times and couldn’t get it done . He’s not that guy
“How good you think Eli manning is?” Ummm.. obviously at least good enough to be in the HOF🤨 and I don’t even rlly like him or think he’s even in the top 100 all time but he did get 2 Super Bowls/Sb MVPs against THE GUY and THE TEAM so I also don’t see the point of the disrespect. Still a great career and I’m not mad at CJ for giving this answer. But Aaron Rodgers is for sure the better Qb/ individual player
You are talking about super bowl rings , you have to look at a team playing together to achieve the ring. If you look at a single player you have to look at stats and individual awards.
I disagree,i understand Eli has 1 extra title but my Goodness he was mostly a bad boring qb. Give me the one title and the ten years of exciting greatness Arod had in his prime.
All this shows is Stroud only cares about winning rings in the end. Can you really fault him for that? In the end everyone plays to wing that ring in the end.
Eli beat tom brady twice and one of those was against 18-0 team. I personally would rather have that than MVPs which are subjective anyhow. To be able to say "yea Im the one who ruined the pats undefeated season" is legendary. It will be talked about forever.
Your crazy only reason Eli story will be told is because he beat Brady which is the only 2 years of his career doing anything ill take the man with a ring 4 MVPs and 5 all pros
@@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher88 Eli played 16 years and missed the playoffs 10 of them you think that’s better than Rodgers career just because he have 1 more ring ?
OMFG James Jones! This is F N CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're supposed to be a sports guy but you don't KNOW WTF you're talking about! Eli Manning did something NO OTHER QB has done or will EVER DO JJ! No other QB has beat Tom Brady TWICE in the biggest game of the year!!!!!!
@@Tbaby216 He is literally wrong. CJ wants to win rings not regular season awards. It isn't about what his peers think. The only people who care about regular season awards are the people who can't win anything else. Like Aaron hasn't in over a decade.
@@Chandelier_Musicexcept for mvps with a mediocre receiving group... Constantly having his team in position to win only for the defense or special game to fall apart. Lmao people are delusional.
There's a lot of people that think Eli Manning won't even make the Hall of Fame. There's not a question whether Aaron Rodgers makes the Hall of Fame. And CJ Stroud's opinion don't matter enoughto even talk about
@@giffondhall9214Alot of those Packer teams should have never even made it to the nfc championship games only 2014 and 2020 were Super Bowl caliber teams.
Eli went up against the greatest human to play football and beat him twice, once during a time he was literally perfect. Rodgers has choked in the playoffs multiple times. CJ’s answer is more about football legacy than being a big name.
@@Jawon-s6v in all pro sports winning championships is what matters most. Rodgers can be a better individual player. But Eli has achieved the bigger goal, and in a more impressive way. Rodgers had the chance to surpass that and he failed. Like directly. He lost to Eli.
If i had Eli's rings over the goat(no one else can say that) over personal accomplishments yeah i'll take it. And he did win those superbowls, him , his play won them.
I don’t get how people are making this about skill when it’s about accolades. CJ cares more about winning than personal accomplishments has nothing to do with the skill or talent of the player
The hate that Eli gets is insane. His play off record and Superbowl performances and longevity is a good reason to want his career more than Rodgers. They acting like this is far fetched to think
His opinion. His career. The only way this makes sense to me is if by career, he means EVERYTHING. Injuries, off the field, media, family. I'd take Eli's career, too.
This is what happens when you measure Quarterbacks differently than other positions Numbers and Accomplishments should matter but with QBs it seems that Super Bowls matter more than anything else which I find ridiculous and unfair
James is right this is not and should not be a question, Eli is LEGIT 50% for a career 😂😂 like…yes he beat Tom twice which is HELLA impressive but cmon ppl AR12 ISSS A BADDDD MANNN
The question wasn't who's the most talented, it was who's career would you rather have. It reveals whether you're more focused on getting individual rewards or team championships. I only played sports up through high school, but the only thing I ever cared about was winning tournaments and championships, so I would have to agree with Stroud. If I was a Texans fan, I would be glad that was his answer.
When you think about listing the top quarterbacks ever to play, how far down are you going until Rodgers? Ok, now how far down are you going until you get to Eli? There’s your answer.
This isn’t a stupid question at all. It’s your personal preference. I’d take Eli career. Made hella money & beat the greatest twice on the biggest stage. You can’t tell the story of the NFL without Eli.
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Idk man. This is my perspective on it. Every single season every NFL team attempts to build an elite roster through the off-season, draft and FA's to build chemistry and develop into a powerhouse NFC & AFC to reach the" Super Bowl", which is hands the ultimate goal of every single team in the league and their coaching and executive staff... So why would getting just an MVP award be more important or valuable than helping your team win 2 Super Bowls against perhaps the greatest NFL Dynasty we will ever see in the New England Patriots? It wouldn't because having 2 Lombardies and rings over other elite HOF QBs speaks for itself.
Eli actually put in work in the Super Bowl unlike shady 😂😂😂😂😂😂
This convo was above Joy's sports intellect. James broke it down perfectly and Joy questioned it. She has to excuse herself from any football convos going forward. 2:00
Sometimes Greatness is not just talent....it's when that talent shows up...when it was MONEY time Eli Manning was on point and he delivered. I love Aaron Rodgers and he may be arguably ''the Greatest all around QB in terms of talent and skill set 💯 but Eli was no slouch, and a 2 time Super Bowl MVP who beat whom many consider the 🐐 and so we gotta put some Respect on Eli name...and I say all of this as a die hard JETS Fan! ❤
Cj should have said NEITHER! And said I'll have my own career! Because the dawg is young. What if CJ turns out to be a bust and gets hurt? Or what if he has a better career than both?? Honestly this was a dumb question.
Eli sent James Jones n Rodgers home on his way to his 2nd superbowl when the packers were 15-1… He clearly still hasn’t gotten over it 😭
Fax
Oh I've forgotten that haha see why the hate there for Eli 😂
Context is key
Bro Eli lead the league in interceptions like four times lol stop the hate
@@LuisRayLewis yeah we won a superbowl one of those years too 😭
Shady won two Super Bowls sitting on the bench. I don't want to hear it. 🤣
Nah I think he got a snap or two that entire postseason
@@Madman33-nv8ht😂😂
That's a fact
He contributed during the regular season of the first one.
Bingo !!!!!
This just goes to show that C.J. Stroud’s head is in the right place championships over individual awards
It shows he's good at giving media answers and understanding that people like you fall for it.
But you can get both. Just because you get individual awards doesn't mean you can't get championships too
Y’all acting like Rodgers don’t have a ring lol 😂 give me Rodgers career over Eli…Eli was never a top 10 player on his own teams
@@BSO111968 Rogers is an overrated premaddona who chokes in the playoffs. His 11-10 playoff record speaks for itself
I rather be epic when it counts like Eli manning.. AND against the BEST QB of all time so yea it’s about the rings AND final mvps for me
Don't forget people, Eli went into Green Bay in 2011 during Aaron's MVP season and beat him, not to mention how he and the giants ended Farve's reign in Green Bay in 07
Also don’t forget when Rodgers smoked him in. 2016
No the GIANTS went into Green Bay and won. This clown narrative like its one guy out there is ridiculous. Especially when Eli's Giants were more known for there dang defense lmao
Don’t forget Packers beat the Giants 38-13 last time they played Eli.
@@michaelacker1617 that's true, but Rodgers didn't finish the job. When Eli got passed him, he went on to win the Superbowl. At the end of the day rings mean more to people than individual success.
BOOM! 👍💯
James Jones finna cry. Shady talks like he really participated in either one of those super bowls that boy jersey was clean both games. C'mon man lol 🤣🤣🤣
In addition to beating the goat in two Superbowls, Eli beat Favre and Rodgers in the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field
With Jones being front and center for the 2nd. That's why he is really heated. Packers were 15-1 that year right?
You must be 13 if you think Eli beat those teams😂
As a actual giants fan, our team was stacked on defense
@@MeBihhhhYou can be as great as the Giants defense was both years, but if your quarterback doesn’t deliver/play it safe when the game is on the line then what good is the defense?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m with the face on the line, what good is your quarterback if your defense can’t stop the other team from scoring?
I’ll never understand you Eli fan boys as if he wasn’t horrible outside of the 2 super bowls 😂 Eli lead the league in turnovers 3 different times
And he beat the 49ers w/those great defenses
Guys, CJ's entitled to HIS OPINION! You're NOT in his head, accept what he said & MOVE ON!!
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Yes people are entitled to their opinion. People are ALSO entitled to their opinion on someone else's opinion. Get a clue
Exactly the kid is saying we play to win championships nothing more
It's not about who's better it's about CJ wanting championships rather than individual awards.
@@judshuttie70 but you can get both. Why do people say this and act like these things are mutually exclusive ?
CJ is essentially saying he wants team trophies over individual trophies
That’s what the sport is about getting YOUR TEAM to the finish line and winning the big dance
Basically cj is saying he wants to lead the league in turnovers more times than winning rings 😂
So did rodgers. He didn't play for mvps, he just played goo's enough to win mvp. He wanted the Lombardi. It just shows 1 man cant win by themselves no matter how good he is.
@@ryancondor8078rodgers was the 1 seed twice and the 2 seed twice stop with the one man stuff he’s just a choker
He's never going to get either. Let's see in 10 years how he feels about having only one ring when he has 0
Stroud is saying he’s playing for championships. Not a slap in the back.
Rodgers has a ring😅
He could have named Big Ben bro. At least Ben had more than 3 or 4 good years 😂😂
@@HockeyDudeJames2 and Eli has two. That’s the point.
@@DerQuanDoucettCJ was asked if he rather have Eli or Aaron. He wasn’t asked about any other qb
Everyone is, but you can get championships AND individual awards. Multiple players have done it
Once I saw this, I was looking forward to James Jones losing his mind on the show. Lmao, I love James man
Same 😂😂😂
Eli sent his 15-1 team home
It was perfect. James Jones was Rodgers teammate and nice to see him defend his QB.
That's because he got them 2 chips, and they both were at bradys expense lol I feel it 💯
Let’s also mention the low lights. Never won an MVP. .500 record as a QB for his career and is never in the all time greats discussion…
That’s sad that CJ stroud rather be a mediocre QB who managed 2 great playoff runs thanks to his defense. I would’ve thought stroud wanted to be great 🤦♂️
Slice it however you want to that man got 2 super bowl appearances and 2 super bowl wins and that's what stroud chooses everybody is entitled to their own opinions
but at the same time tho he has never been an elite player no All pros no Mvps
i would take one less ring if it came with all Arod other accolades
No problem with either, but you can't deny Eli's postseason results, especially when you know who he beat to get his rings.
That's the thing we takk about Eli post and him beating Tom. That's it! Everything else he averages even to this day we are arguing should Eli be in the hall of fame.
Eli lives off of 2 post seasons…. He played 15yrs😂
To be fair Eli was a top 10 QB 4 times in his career
2009 : 4021 yds, 93.1 rating, 27 TD, 14 INT, 7.9 YPA
2011 : 4,933 yds, 92.9 rating, 29 TD, 16 INT, 8.4 YPA
2014 : 4,410 yds, 92.1 rating, 30 TD, 14 INT, 7.3 YPA
2015 : 4,332 yds, 93.6 rating, 35 TD, 14 INT, 7.2 YPA
Obviously he’s no Rodgers, but he did have good years where he was top 10
@@brandonmoyd2942 by your logic Nick foles, Mitch trubisky and baker mayfield were top top 10 before.
Eli lead the league in turnovers 4 different times
@@MeBihhhhled the league in turnovers 4 different times along with 2 superbowls and 2 superbowl MVPs lol funny how that evens out
Eli beat a patriots dynasty twice in the sb enough said that’s like beating mahomes twice in the bowl .
That doesn’t mean your career is better though
@@kingjames361right and plus Eli didn’t beat him the giants beat him. They want to say MVP’s is an individual award. Well Super Bowl wins is a team accomplishment they trying to give to one individual
Facts. N am a Pat Fan
So Pat can never be the goat? Because Tom beat him twice in the playoffs
Old James Walk off cause Eli beat them in the playoffs
Eli manning also sent both of James Jones' QBs home en route to winning those two rings too. Maybe that why JJ is mad....
They're acting like CJ thinks Eli is the GOAT.... they completely missed the point. CJ is just saying he wants to win championships, if he could have had the option to pick any QB all time I promise you it wouldn't have been Eli.
He should have said neither and said he'll take his own career because if thar young boy is confident he wouldn't have take on other ppl resume cauae he might pan our better or bust!
No cj is saying he wants to win 1 more ring but have a pathetic nfl career
As a man, he shouldn’t have said anything
@@keikun145So it’s wrong to say you want to choose team success over individual success?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m you gotta relook at the question that was asked. It's like saying would you take your father's career or your uncle. Look both are great but if you are still young. Bet on yourself that you can be better. And don't be a media sheep because Eli was not all about team success okay? He racked I'm 300 mill with the giants and let's not forget he forced he way out to not be drafted by the chargers. And for Aaron how can you say he was all about stats when the Packers GM was not known for not signing big free agency when the packers need to fill in major spots.
@@keikun145No he should’ve said what he wanted to say!
The way JJ slaps the paper on the desk before leaving has me dying 😂😂
Ion blame em lmao tired of the trollin they know dam well arod is h1m can't wait 4 the szn 2 start 😈
@@Sixgod27He’s “him” but can’t get another Super Bowl despite the stacked teams he had at Green Bay?😂😂
@@Sixgod27 yea I can’t wait either hopefully we don’t see him limping to the bench 8 minutes into the game
He's a clown
@@Sixgod27😂😂😂😂
The camera work when James left was a master class 😭
Eli, was in the wildcard both years and rose up to the occasion for the 2 Super Bowls, Aaron folded last time he was in the playoffs, Eli:8-4, Aaron:11-10, come on now, Eli’s bright spots are much better than Aaron’s , some of those mvps he barely edged out the 2nd in voting
How many MVP's has Eli had? And I don't want to hear that it's an individual award because your offense runs through the QB. A QB can't have an MVP season without the team being good. Eli was a .500 QB and an interception machine. I'd much rather have a career of one the greatest to ever play the game.
@@kgordon8834 one of the greatest ever but underachieved regardless of what ur talking about 🥴
@@MikeJones-zd6xi 4 MVP's, a ring and widely considered one of the greatest ever. That's underachieving to you? It takes a whole team effort to win SB's. He can only do his part. The majority of SB teams that Brady and Eli were on, were led by defense. Rodgers never had that until now.
@@kgordon8834 Rodgers lost to Eli on Eli’s way to his 2nd SB MVP with the 6th ranked scoring defense tho 🤔 Eli’s defense was ranked 17th 🥴
@MikeJones-zd6xi Rodgers was 4-2 head to head vs Eli including those playoffs
Is this what we’ve resorted too? Asking questions like this disrespecting Aaron Rodgers? Sports media is in a terrible place right now.
2011 divisional playoff game in Green Bay. The Packers were 15-1. Aaron Rodgers was the MVP of the league. Both Eli Manning and Aaron Rodgers had 1 Super Bowl ring. Both QB’s had the opportunity to deny the other of their second ring.
Final score: Giants 37 Packers 20
Eli Manning: 21 for 33,
330 yards and 3 touchdowns
Aaron Rodgers: 26 for 46,
264 yards and 2 touchdowns
So James is right, they don't belong in the same category😂
Yall clearly ain’t watch that game bringing up box scores 😂
@LuhChance504 the point is pretty clear. If the goal of the game is to win the superbowl, then any person who isn't completely self absorbed would rather be in Eli's position having won 2 championships and beaten Brady twice and not being known as a post season choke artist.
Of course if you're totally delusional and obsessed with yourself then you'd prefer the 4 MVPs and basically nothing to show for it. But that attitude is how you manage to flunk out of the playoffs every year.
@@jml5100 eli never won a playoff game outside of those 2 sb runs . And here u talking about flunking out of the playoff 😂 yall dudes these days gotta learn context
26 of 44 sounds a little to low for Arod. Maybe 29 of 60? 😂
The question was better career, not better quarterback, and if the goal of playing sports is to win, then you would have to say Eli. Joy was the only one who addressed the question, without making it an argument about who is the better quarterback.
You can't remove how good the player was from how good their career was. Everything a player does gets put into context. Come on now😊
True, and to beat an undefeated team, with the best coach, a top 10 defense, a top 3 greatest WR, and the so called "GOAT" twice in the biggest sports event in the world, says you're pretty good.
ELI was CLUTCH! that was it. when the game mattered most he delivered
Okay but at the same time you’re only bringing up Eli’s greatest moments not his whole career. Eli’s career was seen as being the idiot savant. No all pros, led the league in interceptions multiple times, whole face is a meme, can’t win a playoff game. But then in two years does the unthinkable
@@markpaez601is that why he lead the nfl in turnovers 3 years and missed the playoffs more times than he made it?
Those AD-libs as Jones talks are hilarious!
I love James on this show, but take him off all Rodger’s segments PLEASE.
He cannot hide his bias. There is not a fair conversation to be had when he’s talking about Aaron.
They only do Rodgers segments to troll James😅.
He telling the truth on this one eli trash
@@BruceLee-sw9gw No one is debating the better player, the conversation is which career you’d take. Ofc I think Aaron is better than Eli, but rings are rings and he beat the goat twice for them so taking his career ain’t a crazy take.
So one more ring and beating the Goat twice is a better career
“You said the great Eli Manning?” ☠️☠️
Great and Eli don't go in the same sentence
Eli and elite do tho
@@BruceLee-sw9gw I can think of one. Eli had a defense that beat the great one.
I’m schocked Acho and Shady chose Rodgers I thought y’all swear by QB wins and SBs. James is right this is a stupid conversation.
Amen! They want to hold rings over Lamar’s head and talk about MVPs are just individual awards and now that’s all that matters! Lol Rogers was up in two NFC Championship games and still got beat by a lesser QB (Wilson)! Rogers is not that good and he should compared to Flacco especially bc Flacco has more playoff wins than Rogers! Lol
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Got beat? Had no idea he was playing defense…he losy because of a botched punt return..how is it being retard3d and dense at the same time?…
Who ever agrees with this statement has no respect for the game and thinks it's a one man sport not a team sport
Eli for the win. Beat Brady TWICE when it counted and took down the almost undefeated dynasty.
That Defense did
@user-bc4bu2dy6f, but who put points on the board when it mattered most?🤔
Eli holds the record for most passing yards in a single playoff run. He won it for the Giants twice. And I'm not even a Giants fan, but I remember those playoff runs and one the defense was great, the other Eli put up more than anybody so far, and did what it took to beat the 19-0 Patriots.
They also failed to mention that Eli Manning went to Lambeau Field & knocked off a 15-1 Packer team that everybody swore was gonna repeat & win the Superbowl too. 😂
@@cameronzwicke5761 Most passing yards in a playoff run is such a misleading stat. He had four games, multiple QBs would have blown his yards out of the water if they didn’t get a first week bye.
Eli's legacy will be remembered decades from now for showing up when it mattered most. Rodgers' will be remembered as another talented Packers QB who lost his mind.
I can't stand Aaron Rodgers, but you're delusional.
Rodgers is consistently talked about as one of the greatest, and Eli is not ever talked about that wya because everyone who watched him knows he wasn't that good.
@@codyb.3015And yet couldn’t get it down in the playoffs when it mattered most
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m yup. THE PACKERS couldn't get it done. You're out of your MF mind if you're saying eli won those superbowls.... quit disrespecting Mr strahan and associates by acting like those trophies have elis name on them. defense wins championships. Eli 2 sb show that. Rodgers had top 10 defense 1 time. He won the sb. Stafford, same thing. Peytons 2nd ring, same thing. And peyton got benched during the season for playing so horrible. Baltimore SB wins, Defense. Wilson with Seattle, defense.... everyone needs to take a step back and take eli nuts out your mouths
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m except when he did?
@@blackanimelover18unfortunately no matter how much you hate to admit it . Aaron Rodgers has had LOADED teams and underperformed , literally the #1 seeding in playoff multiple times and couldn’t get it done . He’s not that guy
No one remembers MVPs or all pros or TD-INT ratios. People remember super bowls.
Yes they do if you if you won a Super Bowl too. I’m a bears fan I hate Rodger’s and liked manning, but Eli couldn’t compare too double check
So why do everyone remember Dan Marino?
A-Rod is in a lot of people's top 5, and that's because of what he's accomplished in his career. Eli doesn't even sniff the top 10
But Rodgers DID win a Super Bowl tho lol
That’s a stupid statement. Everybody remembers Dan Marino.
“How good you think Eli manning is?” Ummm.. obviously at least good enough to be in the HOF🤨 and I don’t even rlly like him or think he’s even in the top 100 all time but he did get 2 Super Bowls/Sb MVPs against THE GUY and THE TEAM so I also don’t see the point of the disrespect. Still a great career and I’m not mad at CJ for giving this answer. But Aaron Rodgers is for sure the better Qb/ individual player
Joy just be chatting sometimes istg
She’s eye candy bro just tune her out… look in her eyes
@@Semperityy you right, she’s unbearable when she’s speaks but she for sure is hot as well
ccry
@@Semperityy yet u look at her just like people look at ya mom
@@sonseed7541 Corny
Thank u for being there.
Mr. James Jones..
He's out.
😂😂😂
My man walked off 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
mad respect for J Jones always standing firm on Aaron Rodgers and I agree with his stance
He doesn’t know how bad the media hated Eli and still thinks he wasn’t that good
James Jones had me cracking up 🤣🤣 Love the chemistry of all you guys!!
Who doesn’t want rings??
I'm not going to agree with him because Eli Manning had to make a lot of things happen by himself
Shady are you going into the hall of fame?? 😂😂
Negative! 🙅🏾♂️🤣
He's all Decade. He's getting in.
He got a case
He most likely is
Yes, yes he is what kinda “I don’t watch football” comment is this
You are talking about super bowl rings , you have to look at a team playing together to achieve the ring. If you look at a single player you have to look at stats and individual awards.
Why is joy incapable of answering anybody’s questions?
sometimes she has her good and WORSE days lmao
She is such a Rodgers hater it’s not even close. I swear the only reason she is there is because she is a 7 and her brother is a former all pro
Cause shes female in her feelings lmao
She did answer the question. Eli Manning.
Probably working on being a politician someday.
0:40 no jones you crazy football is a team game and anybody that’s doesn’t have an ego and thinks it’s all about them would pick Eli
Can they really not find anyone better than McCoy for this job?
I hope they do
Eli Manning is ten times better Aaron Rodgers
Not everybody wants personal awards
For the record Eli manning beat the packers and Niners to win the unbeaten Patriots
The hate on my boy Eli is real. Super Bowl mvps with Super Bowl runs vs the best. Mennn! The hate is real.
Ain't nobody hating on him he trash he a mid QB at best
Nobody is hating on Eli Clown, in fact that dude is getting overblown.
Nobody is hating, yall are just overrating him
Everyone knows that first SB MVP was because of Osi and Tuck absolutely demolishing the Patriots O-line.
If I was in the church league mvp aah maybe but Tom Brady got 7 rings if u asked Tom he wouldn't trade a superbowl for a mvp chips or die baby......
I disagree,i understand Eli has 1 extra title but my Goodness he was mostly a bad boring qb. Give me the one title and the ten years of exciting greatness Arod had in his prime.
Aaron Rodgers let Tom Brady tie him in NFC superbowl rings in his first year playing for the Bucs enough said.
😂😂😂
Shhhh they don’t talk about Rodgers failures 😭 just his 4 mvps
@@MikeJones-zd6xi regular season god 😂
Didn’t Brady have 5HOF on offense with him?
Almost like anyone can buy a ring
@@Oxilus_BHe’s not even that lol… that would be The Sheriff
Jones: "Y'all go" 😂😂😂😂😂
dumb take...eli had both iconic superbowl moments and even had iconic 4th quarter comebacks in BOTH RUNS!! put some respect in eli bruh
Eli had a sub par career. He’s a 500 or below quarterback for his career.
NYGs have been trash since 2012 his last 6 years supporting case was terrible
Joys pure hate for Rodgers is showing
You spelled "James Jones' bias" wrong
“You think something cuz its in the show” 😂
Arod disrespect is crazy
No disrespect, just facts. 2 rings is more than 1.
Giants D Line got 2 rings. The players on offense was ignoring him in the huddle
All this shows is Stroud only cares about winning rings in the end. Can you really fault him for that? In the end everyone plays to wing that ring in the end.
Exactly. They’re all in their own feelings
It’s no way u would rather have Eli’s Career over rodgers because 1 extra ring difference
@@LuhChance504 If all you care about is rings then yes you would
@@Madman33-nv8ht so you’d rather have aikman career over Peyton , using that same logic ?
@@LuhChance504 Once again. If all you care about is rings then yes. How many times do I need to repeat thins
Aaron Rodgers is not better than Eli Manning
James you play to win SB rings!
Eli beat tom brady twice and one of those was against 18-0 team. I personally would rather have that than MVPs which are subjective anyhow. To be able to say "yea Im the one who ruined the pats undefeated season" is legendary. It will be talked about forever.
I'd rather have Eli's career...
Eli's story will be told by many...
Aaron's story will be told by James.
Shut your mouth lol u sound crazy 😭
But Aaron will always be the better QB.
Your crazy only reason Eli story will be told is because he beat Brady which is the only 2 years of his career doing anything ill take the man with a ring 4 MVPs and 5 all pros
@@Stonecoldalston ... the only 2 years in his career he did anything of note past week 17!
@@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher88 Eli played 16 years and missed the playoffs 10 of them you think that’s better than Rodgers career just because he have 1 more ring ?
just watching because of JJ, he is the coolest dude on sports TV by far 🙌🏾😂 and he sticks to his brother Aaron what tells you a lot about him and 12
As A Giants fan you gotta be a fan to truely understand Eli he was a winner & clutch Aaron Rodger’s came up small plenty of times
I would've said Eli too and I'm a patriots fan he will be remembered forever as the man who took Brady down twice
As a giants fan we should have more than 2 SBs and would have more if we had Rodgers
Yep, like that divisional game against game against Eli. When Eli went on to get his second SB ring. I'm sure James remember that.😝
Yes… a lot of people forget that Eli went through Aaron Rodgers to get one of those rings
@@saynomoremedia7463 meh, Rodgers would've choked on the NFC games alone
Man he just answered a question he was asked. And he gave the right answer in the context of wanting to win. It's a team game.
😂😂😂 3 commenters that played football and WILL NOT be in the hall of fame have so much to say. 😂😂😂
OMFG James Jones! This is F N CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're supposed to be a sports guy but you don't KNOW WTF you're talking about!
Eli Manning did something NO OTHER QB has done or will EVER DO JJ!
No other QB has beat Tom Brady TWICE in the biggest game of the year!!!!!!
Eli is a 2x SB MVP
Defense definitely was the MVPs but QBs always get it
@@KynartiSpencerthey gave up 14 and 17. Eli is trash and always has been
Eli was clutch and was only good when it mattered most.
Eli was garbs
The defense only gave up like 14 wtf .. shady said it best
I agree with James on this one
The Aaron Rodgers disrespect is crazy.
Joy is being a robot in this segment. Shady said it best most players care about respect from their peers this was a PC answer
@@Tbaby216caring about respect from peers over rings is a mistake lol. rings over everything.
@@FrigidHeights Two things can be true , you're not a pro athlete. You're a nobody .
@@Tbaby216 He is literally wrong. CJ wants to win rings not regular season awards. It isn't about what his peers think. The only people who care about regular season awards are the people who can't win anything else. Like Aaron hasn't in over a decade.
@@Chandelier_Musicexcept for mvps with a mediocre receiving group... Constantly having his team in position to win only for the defense or special game to fall apart. Lmao people are delusional.
There's a lot of people that think Eli Manning won't even make the Hall of Fame. There's not a question whether Aaron Rodgers makes the Hall of Fame. And CJ Stroud's opinion don't matter enoughto even talk about
Nobody thinks eli is not going to the hall. Let's be real.
Aaron Rodgers lost more NFC championship games than any other quarterback in history. He always chokes in the big games.
Bro have yu watched them games? Not all of them are on Aaron
@@DerQuanDoucett yes they are
@@giffondhall9214no they aren’t buddy, you clearly haven’t seen any of the games 😂😂😂😂
@@HockeyFan102that’s a QB stat so it’s on him we don’t care if his defense let him down Eli went to Aaron home & beat him them beat Brady
@@giffondhall9214Alot of those Packer teams should have never even made it to the nfc championship games only 2014 and 2020 were Super Bowl caliber teams.
Eli went up against the greatest human to play football and beat him twice, once during a time he was literally perfect. Rodgers has choked in the playoffs multiple times. CJ’s answer is more about football legacy than being a big name.
Rodgers might be the better player, but eli definitely had the better career.
I bet you think somebody is the goat in the WNBA .
There's no comparison whatever you call it, better career or better player, Rodgers is better than Eli Manning. Period.
@@Jawon-s6v in all pro sports winning championships is what matters most. Rodgers can be a better individual player. But Eli has achieved the bigger goal, and in a more impressive way. Rodgers had the chance to surpass that and he failed. Like directly. He lost to Eli.
@@wuzi7049 this is a top 5 worst take i heard in like the last 5 years what lmao
@@wuzi7049Wasn’t Eli’s last playoff game against the Packers where he lost 38-13?
If i had Eli's rings over the goat(no one else can say that) over personal accomplishments yeah i'll take it. And he did win those superbowls, him , his play won them.
I guess some of yall would rather be Robert Horry than Shaq lol he got more rings
So you think that being a two time SB MVP is the same as Robert Horry???😂😂
I want you to say it like you mean it.😜
@@cliffd8380 6 time champion who has hit numerous game winners and clutch points
@@cliffd8380let’s be real those defenders was the mvp yes Eli was clutch but this defense shut the pats down
@@acito_207 time
A better argument is someone like havilcek
I don’t get how people are making this about skill when it’s about accolades. CJ cares more about winning than personal accomplishments has nothing to do with the skill or talent of the player
The hate that Eli gets is insane. His play off record and Superbowl performances and longevity is a good reason to want his career more than Rodgers. They acting like this is far fetched to think
It is, bro led the NFL in picks 3 times
@@blackanimelover18one of those years he won the Super Bowl and beat Arron in an NFC championship game.
@@blackanimelover18 And?
@@JDER-wv1ng good for him, he's still not a better QB
@@reealist34 and that's why he's not better
CJ had one good yr and now he who we go to for information
"Yall Go" 😂😂😂😂
The Marino mention was a bar lol
I don’t think he’s calling Eli better, he’s just saying that he’d rather have his career in terms of championship
When James said I no and clap the cards and the walk off I was weak 😂😂😂
😂CJ knows what he’s doing….he knew this would get certain people going.
His opinion. His career. The only way this makes sense to me is if by career, he means EVERYTHING. Injuries, off the field, media, family. I'd take Eli's career, too.
Those 2 rings were 2 of the best super bowl runs in sb history. I say that as a die hard Eagles fan. Those runs were fn wild
I would rather be Eli because there is no better feeling than winning a championship. You get to be the best in the whole world at what you do.
Rodgers did win a championship lol. We're not talking about Philip Rivers 😂
@@jctsliceman people for no reason because like what😂😂 eli was average at best frfr.
Joy with the ventriloquist act! It’s a pretty smile, but I don’t like what’s coming from between those teeth 😂
This is what happens when you measure Quarterbacks differently than other positions Numbers and Accomplishments should matter but with QBs it seems that Super Bowls matter more than anything else which I find ridiculous and unfair
Eli Manning beat Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Remember that haters James Jones was there. When they lost in the playoffs. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“You think something because it’s in the show.” Protect James Jones 😂
James is right this is not and should not be a question, Eli is LEGIT 50% for a career 😂😂 like…yes he beat Tom twice which is HELLA impressive but cmon ppl AR12 ISSS A BADDDD MANNN
The fact that this question exists shows you what people think about Rodgers.
The question wasn't who's the most talented, it was who's career would you rather have. It reveals whether you're more focused on getting individual rewards or team championships. I only played sports up through high school, but the only thing I ever cared about was winning tournaments and championships, so I would have to agree with Stroud. If I was a Texans fan, I would be glad that was his answer.
Eli beat Favre and Rodgers to get to Tom Brady.....
great take great crew
Jones walking off " I'm going let y'all finish the show, we got 10 minutes left" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When you think about listing the top quarterbacks ever to play, how far down are you going until Rodgers? Ok, now how far down are you going until you get to Eli? There’s your answer.
I love the trollish nature of this show. Like siblings and friends just having a conversation about sports.
This isn’t a stupid question at all. It’s your personal preference. I’d take Eli career. Made hella money & beat the greatest twice on the biggest stage. You can’t tell the story of the NFL without Eli.