C.J. Stroud ‘takes shots’ at Aaron Rodgers, Wants to be like Eli Manning | NFL | THE CARTON SHOW
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- Houston Texans QB C.J. Stroud said that he’d rather have Eli Manning’s career over Aaron Rodgers’, saying that “you want the rings. Eli has 2”. Craig Carton believes this is a shot at Aaron Rodgers, and that the QB shouldn’t compare Eli or Matthew Stafford to Aaron.
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Not only does Eli Manning has two Rings, he had to slay the Dragon to get those two Rings in Tom Brady and the Patriots!
You can't spell ELITE without ELI!
C. J. Stroud is 💯% Right!
You failed to mention he also slaughtered that 15-1 Green Bay team who Rodgers was the starting QB 37-20 at their house lol he not only slayed Brady but Rodgers as well but they talking down on him like he’s a bum
He’s still humble. He was asked a question and he answered it “HIS” way
He beat the goat twice to get his rings. Case closed
Tom Coughlins game plan beat the Pats... he knew BB’s style ftom working together years with the Giants.
*Had Aaron had Belichick as his coach, God knows how many Rings he’d have.
*his team* beat the goat twice. Fixed it for you
I do agree with Stroud
So nick foles is better than Dan marino?
@@ShawnReed-ny1hd - YES, he got a Ring to prove it!
It's all about the jewelry!
It don't mean a thing if you ain't got no Ring!
No you don't 😂😂😂 stop it lol it isn't like Rodgers has none he has 1 along with waaay more Tds less ints and multiple MVPs lol
@@ShawnReed-ny1hd stop acting like Marino is ever mentioned in the GOAT conversation. Rogers is mentioned.....
He’s not disrespecting anyone, stop tryna create a narrative you losers
The Matt Stafford talk was reckless. Rodgers will certainly take that as disrespect. That’s all that matters. And that’s all I want to see on Halloween night.
Why do analysts keep making this about who's better eli or Arron. That wasn't the question, the question was essentially do you want rings or things, and CJ said rings..
The guy didn't ask who was better...
It's funny how they took a small bit of what he said about Rodgers. CJ defended Aaron against the host Gilli. But when asked which career would he rather have he picked Eli bcuz of the rings. This no talent guy is trying to create something out of nothing.
Exactly! It's crazy how this is even a talking point
Rodgers has a ring.
Eli took his team on the road and beat the 15-1 Packers at Lambeau field on the way to a Super Bowl. 😂
If you put Eli on Green Bay he has at least 4, Don't @ me
Hey there guy…how are you? Feeling any better today? Get well soon! 🤕🙏🏾
People are used to these players, not saying nothing and now that they are speaking, they mine people can’t handle it. I love it. I’ve been feeling this way for a long time.
So, what we're really doing is comparing those two Giants-Eli Super Bowl years to the total playoff career of one Aaron Rodgers. So, let's look at what the numbers actually say and see what the truth is here:
Between the 2007 and 2011 Super Bowl Championship teams, the average defensive PPG allowed by the Giants defense was a combined, 15.
In all 18 of the Packers playoff games from 2008-2019, the Packers defense averaged 27 PPG allowed.
That's an average of a full 12 points difference in favor of those Giants teams... That's not close.
Eli had the avengers on his defenses. Rodgers WAS and had to CARRY his teams as far as he could year-in, year-out. Something Eli could never do because the Giants didn't even make the playoffs most years. That 2011 season, he led the Packers to a 15-1 record with the second-worst ranked defense in the NFL. They won all those games because he was putting up Patrick Mahomes-esque numbers. Their strategy was simply, let our superstar QB carry all of us to glory. They couldn't sustain that model of success forever. Especially with that monster team the Giants had that year. But ultimately, it comes down to this: you could certainly make a case that Eli had the better CAREER, but there is no case to be made for who was the better QB. Eli has no MVPs, no all-pros, led the NFL in interceptions twice, was not anywhere close to being as physically gifted and he was never really mentioned in top-5 discussions like Rodgers was. The better QB is, and always will be, Aaron Charles Rodgers.
Bro lost the argument at the end then avoided taking the L with a joke
Eli played in 12 Playoff games and was 8wins vs 4 losses whereas Aaron has played 22 games. So the fact that Aaron has 45TDs vs 18TDs for Eli is not crazy. The win loss for Aaron 12wins vs 10losses. That said Eli or his team as a whole were more effective than Aaron and his team.
The Packers management from President., and GM down let Aaron Rodgers down.Give him a top 10 defense, and he wins at least 5 rings maybe more.
@@fml5910 ummmm. I am not so sure on that. But KC was winning with less. You do realize Giants ranking when they beat Tom was 25th right?
@@kitinvestments You might be right.
Texas at Jets TNF in week 9 watch Rodgers have a career day
Rodgers won't make that far into the season. Watch him get hurt before week 4.
Don't try to make it bigger than what it is the kid is still humble he's just saying the truth. Aaron Rodgers career isn't what people paint it out to be.
"He had one of the greatest WRs ever." It's like Carton doesn't know football. Having an all-time receiver doesn't matter if you don't have a RB, you're in a dysfunctional organization, a terrible GM who doesn't get you good players. Those years it was Stafford, Megatron and that's all. Also, dismissing Rodgers playoff losses as the defenses fault is insane.
Everything you’re arguing is what happened to Rodgers. I’m a packer fan and he carried them on his back, you get confused by thinking it’s a good team the last 15 years when it was almost entirely Rodgers 💀
@@dantebrante3784 So you're going to dismiss the fact he had a top 10 D when he won the Superbowl, Jordyn Nelson, Greg Jennings, Donald driver, James Jones, Aaron Jones, and Bahktiari? Outside of Megatron, who did Stafford play with that was on the same level as any of those guys?
So when Stafford lost the playoff game in Dallas as the lions Qb how was that the organization faults
@deesee2051 you need playmaker to win. I'm pretty sure having a rushing game led by Reggie Bush and Joique Bell isn't very good, as demonstrated by their 80 yards rushing combined. Yes, Stafford didn't play well, just like Aaron Rodgers doesn't play well in the playoffs, but Rodgers has a better overall team with better playmaker than Stafford ever had. Also, the Packers are a good organization and smart with their player decisions. When could you ever say that about Detroit before Campbell got there?
@@user-je5rh5ju9ghe had a top ten defense only once in his entire career and that was the year he won the super bowl and Jordy Nelson Greg Jennings James Jones he made those receivers how did James Jones and Greg Jennings look when they played for other teams? If Rodgers played for Detroit with megatron they'd be in the playoffs every year and probably win a superbowl
The only reason Eli’s career is even in the talks is because of who he beat in those SB’s. If Rodgers wins 1 more then this ain’t even a conversation.
True but that wasn't the question and the reality is do you want rings or things.... It's ok if u want things and it's ok if u want rings...
They both have rings
Music to fans ears! What fan wants to hear their qb say they put personal acknowledgements over their team's success?
Plax is hilarious. Of course he would take the chip because he ain’t a HOF lol
Rodgers has a ring
Ever one wants the ring trust me
Eli has 2 super bowl ring against the GOAT himself Tom Brady!!! That why Eli is a legend and a Hall a Famer! People forget that, I don't know why?
Rodgers has a ring
@@wolfmanj12 I know he does. I was talking more about Eli being a hall a famer. This was more to me about how people knock on Eli. I wasn't sayin Rodgers isn't one. Not saying Rodgers wont be one, of course he will be.
Can we give Carton some credit. the man overcame an addiction. Was able to correct and even get a better job. And he spends his free time mentoring people about the trap door that got him. I know people love to hat him but I have so much respect for him. As someone else who escaped an addiction. A very different on to be fair. The hate I read all the time is unwarrented
Whoa
In football…especially nowadays, MVP is basically a QB award…the SBs, that’s what separates, as far as QBs go…since they’re the “most significant” part of the team, and are paid like it…when you win the SB, doesn’t most of the credit go to the QB…we act like Eli didn’t ball out when push came to shove…
Yeah he got asked a question. He answered it the way he answered it. Doesn’t mean it’s not dissing Aaron Rodgers.
He was ask to pick one you hearing must be check out soon
18 seasons with one team...one ring 🙄
ELI GOING IN THE HALL OF FAME TOO AND HE HAS TWO RINGS
This is stupid. Yall didn't watch the podcast. CJ was defending Rodgers to gilly, but Gilly asked if you would rather have 2 chips like Eli or 1 like Rodgers.
I like Hardaway...
It all comes down to winning Super Bowls. That is a fact!
He did not put him down he was asked a question he answered it for what he want not what you wanted
He was asked who career would you rather have eli or Rodgers then he goes further and says Stafford would have more superbowls if he had arron Rodgers players that's taking a shot at Rodgers
Na Stroud went bit to far he also made personal about if teammates like Rodgers more he’d have more rings
One of the most impressive aspects of Eli's career that people over look, he started every game. Never too hurt to play, plus 2 rings and a SBMVP's. I'd want that over A Rodgers career as well.
And you wouldn’t make the playoffs 11 or the 17 years
@@Johnny55671 Who cares as long as you perform when you do show up? No sense making the playoffs just to lose. Eli was 8 and 4 in the playoffs and Aaron 11-10. That means Eli won twice as many playoff games than he lost.
Aaron was basically 50 percent so every game he won he lost just as many. Come on don’t be bias.
@@0311SF bro it’s not close. Rodgers carried a franchise that won off his arm, Eli won off his defense
Rodgers put up 28 a game in the postseason, and had 36 scored against him on average. Don’t be biased, that is nothing on Rodgers that’s the poverty packers organization 💀
@@dantebrante3784 and Eli on average has scored a pathetic 19 a game
So Is this dude saying regular season mvps are more valuable than Super Bowl mvps
Sounds like it, don't it!
Sounds like he's saying MVP'S are more valuable than Super Bowl Rings!
Yeah, there are so many Aarron lovers who aren't evening listening to the question. It's not about who's better it's about do u want rings or things simple... He said rings .. and that's ok. If he said things that's ok too. But MVP is not even close to a Superbowl ring
Where’s this same attitude for Lamar-I’m gonna sit out a playoff game for money-Jackson?
Now stroud is saying if you were to put stafford in Green Bay he would have more rings.
Rodgers defense repeatedly let him down in the losses. The year they had a top 10 D they won the superbowl.Put Rodgers in LA with Donald and Ramsey he would have more rings too.
Rodgers touchdown to interception says otherwise too. Stafford is historically known to to throw picks and if the 9ers safety didn’t drop that wide open interception, Stafford wouldn’t have a ring. Strouds tripping.
Of course cj stroud is correct.
Who would want payton manning's career or dan marino's career over troy aikman? Troy is a legend with 3 rings.
if you pick aikmans career over peyton, youre just a cowboy homer
@@thewatcher8343 anybody with simple common sense would know 3 SB rings > 2 rings. Only peyton fanatics would pick peyton over troy's 3 superbowls.
@@user-wd7ue1wd6r yes it is obvious that 3 is greater than 2. that's elementary and simpleton thinking, something youre very familiar with. however, peyton manning had a superior career to troy aikman, this isnt even a debate. there is not single, credible analyst that would say troy aikman is better or had a better career as a qb than manning. im not even a colts or broncos fan. I think youre trolling now.
@@thewatcher8343 now. do you know more than c j stroud and his line of thought?
@@user-wd7ue1wd6r no, no, no. stop trying to manipulate the interaction. you and I were discussing manning/aikman. and your take got exposed for the nonsense that it was and now you want to shift the narrative. see, I told you that you knew quite a bit about simpleton thinking lol
Its like asking: Would you rather be on the Calton Show or the Pat Mcafee show. In my opinion I'd choose the Pat Mcafee show. No disrespect but understand an opinion is an opinion. You don't have to instigate to get views and subs. Do better.
It’s not at all like this, watch this again, Craig is spot on the other guy has zero value arguments and diverts attention from his L at the end by making a joke. Rodgers owns your mind 💀
Dude seems like a crackhead. Can't ever hold still
@@dantebrante3784 Sure lol. Sadly Rogers is a ham sandwhich now so he's more Mr. Irrelevant then Mr.Irrelevant in Purdy.
He just erhered Tim with a 8:56 simple question lol
Can we get these Rodgers and NY Jets haters off the show please... who needs toxicity
The real question should be would you rather have Eli manning career vs Drew Brees
The Fall is always harder - cj.
Nothing Plaxico says matters, he shot himself I the leg.
Agree
Rodgers is the greatest of all time at CHOKING! 😂😂😂😂
Tim hardaway lol
Avg 28 ppg but Rodgers avgd just over 2 TDs per game so their RBs were avging 2 TDs per game. Except for Barry names their RB that did anything? Am waiting...zzzz
The fact is, Aaron rodgers would have more rings if he didn’t eat all of the packers cap space
I love the tweet!! Rings baby!! Rodgers hasn't been great in post seasons in the past 5 years. Those are facts!! 😂😂😂😂
So is anyone honestly taking robert horrys 7 ring career over michael jordans 6? Cause thats the argument. All time great with a ring or essentially a role player with 1 more ring. Eli lead the league in ints 4 times. Rodgers has as many mvps as manning has probowls. I could see if manning had 3 or for superbowls but im not trading 4 mvps for 1 more ring
Huh? Joe Montana had more rings lol hilarious
Rodgers gonna light it up this year
dunno, if you told me I could trade one sb ring for miltiple mvps, and crazy career numbers, and I'd still be a super bowl champion. I'd take the one ring over two rings with middling numbers.
Top 10 all time in passing tds passing yards and passing completions are middling numbers?
@@brandon_925 alright, those are respectable numbers. a bit misleading, but respectable. still, rogers is a lock for hof. its still a debate about eli. why is that you think? Id still take rodgers career with just one ring and the accolades over eli with two and no accolades.
@@thewatcher8343 Eli is definitely getting in, he might not be 1st ballot but he’s getting in for sure. The way i look at it is, 2 hall of famers, one is considered an all time great prob top 5-10 all time with many accolades and 1 ring, the other is maybe top 20-25 all time with still respectable numbers but has 2 rings, the extra ring outweighs the personal accolades
@@brandon_925 ok, im enjoying this convo. now here is why I say that those numbers are a bit misleading. most of them are longevity or iron man stat padding numbers.
lets start at eli was never, and I mean once even an all pro. the only category that he ever led quarterbacks in is interceptions(3x), literally nothing else for an entire career, and outside those two super bowl miracle runs was a whole, whole, lot of futility. mainly because he didn't have legendary defenses to do most of the heavy lifting for him.
so it's clear to me that a ring holds weight you. so let me ask you, would you say that steve young is a better all time qb than dan marino?
a team ( the Giants) that is perennially bad has no chance to randomly win two superbowls. a team that is perennially good (the Packers) could easily randomly win a Superbowl. That is what the statistics suggest.....
@dwilliams4209
He mad because it was the jets anyone else he would not be talking #@/%
Stroud am doing too many podcast
So these clowns would take Trent Dilfer's career over Dan Mario's cause he got a SB ring???
I guess they taking Eli over Drew Brees also! CJ must be sipping Kool-aid!!!
I would take eli over brees and rodgers
And if plaxico didnt shoot himself in the leg
Eli would of won 3 chips in 5 years
@@ralphpal So you're a fortune teller and knew Eli was gonna win a 3rd ring for sure???
Overrated Eli got 2 fluke Super Bowl Rings. And nobody cares about his sorry career. 12 on goat 🐐 status know as one of the great ones. Mt Rushmore. Eli can keep his 2 fluke rings but keep Eli out of the hall of fame
Eli Manning is one of the most OVERRATED players in NFL history! He led the league in INTs multiple seasons and was an average QB. Literally .500 on the nose for his career! One of the best defensive fronts collectively in league history carried him in two playoff runs. If not for the luckiest play you’ll see by David Tyree he’s only got 1 SB and would get the deserving Dilfer or Johnson treatment. Rodgers is the better player OBVIOUSLY but he’s choked away some big playoff moments. The 3 INT Bucs loss was bad bad! But would you rather be a 2x SB champ viewed largely as average and nowhere near the G.O.A.T. debate or a 1x SB champ with 4 MVPs and viewed similarly to Marino as one of the best pure passing QBs to ever play that didn’t win enough and in the very outside fringes of G.O.A.T. debates because your skill and talent are UNDENIABLE if you watch tape and know football?! It’s obvious to me and I’m not even an Aaron Rodgers fan….
Crazy with ALLLLLL those stats he still took two rings from prime Brady
Rodgers couldn't beat 40 yr old Brady in a game he threw 3 INTs in 😂😂
So yall are taking Joe Flacco over Joe Montana because he has a ring? 💀 yall just hate Rodgers because the media wants you to 🤣🤣
Is individual success more important than team success?
Exactly people are so small minded.
Joe Montana has 4 rings lol
Joe Montana won four rings and three Super Bowl MVPs. Not sure what the argument is.
He might have meant marino. 🤷♂️
Well, I guess my guy Thanasis has a better career than Hardaway, you want the rings right?
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