STIHL BR600 and BR700 COMMON PROBLEMS / WHAT TO LOOK FOR
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2022
- Today I cover common problems and things to look for if you are buying a used blower. Both blower are great blowers but do have a few issues. Thanks for watching.
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I was looking for a lightweight blower for my deck. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxgioZQl3J5wPGAeDINzbieKbT5qomSEx3 There are some huge trees around my house and the leaves and pods drop all over my deck. Having to move furniture around to sweep has become too big a chore. This blower was the answer. It is light enough for this 70yr old lady and powerful enough to blow all the tree droppings off my rather large deck. Thank you B&D. Be aware the cord is not included. I use a 3 prong outdoor cord 25' cord for my 12' x 20' deck. The cord retainer works very well, but don't try to pass the plug through it. That is NOT how it works. You just have to loop the cord and it works great. One of my best purchases. Very happy.
Great video!! Thanks for this. I myself have the BR600, got it new in 2021.
Great experienced, considered, paused narration. Thank you very much!
Very detailed comparison and key areas to look for problem. Thanks for the video!
Amazing info mine is leaking oil from rewind I will pull and check thanks again!
I was given a BR320 with a bad engine. I rebuilt it and I love it. my first back pack blower.
Very good instruction, especially air speed and its use versus air volume. I am not a mechanic, but you have given me some things to watch for, even as an operator.
Seems best to have one of each
Thank You for sharing information and video 😊😊😊
Thanks for the info. Very helpful. I don't know if I've ever seen one dirtier than this one!
Haha mine is. 🤷😊
I bought a Echo 9010 just for my personal use and I don’t know why but it is a beast
I have a BR600 and have run 50 gallons of fuel through it in 3 years without one issue. No complaints!
Just got a 600 today hope i got a bang for the buck
@@chuckmarriner3338 if it runs like mine it will serve you well. Run Stihl synthetic oil and premium fuel mixed at 50:1 and she’ll blow for a long time!
I have a 600 with 2500hrs and a 700 with 1200. New solid state coil on the 600 because a bushingl from the pull start mount from the last person that took it apart got wedged in and out of the magneto/coil.
I got a junk br600 that had a seized wrist pin, surprisingly I was able to get it free and running, even with a destroyed piston it still had decent compression and full power.
Sometimes you get lucky if you catch it early enough.
@@wallysworkin823 I saw one where the piston broke just below the wrist pin and let loose
@@evanchapmanfanman Yup, I've seen a few of those. It's usually when the wrist seizes then it'll crack the piston from heat.
the infamous wobbly crankshaft along with the leaking starter head
I took valve cover off and found a good size strip of the oil pan gasket in there 😮 doing valve adjustment but now need to re gasket the block
That’s actually pretty normal, if the pan doesn’t show signs of leaking it’ll be fine.
Thanks for the reply, good to hear.! I saw the leakage you show in the video so I think I'll change it to be safe
Nice vid ty. I have an issue if you've ever come across it. I run my br600 and fuel is all over the place. On the carb body right under the High Low screws there is a pin hole spraying out fuel, almost hidden(so took me awhile to find problem).
Ever see this? new carb time?
What do you use the Park Tool Bicycle bench vise for?
great vid 🤜🤛
I just noticed my choke on the 700 will not do nothing but just rotate and flip right back. Never did this before. Answer please. Great video though
Hello Wally where are you in az ? Have a very new 450 & it won’t rev out , seeing clogged pipe issues
Mine currently is that it’s not starting. When I pull the tensioner to start it. There’s no tension when I pull the recoil rope . I pulled it off to inspect the rope and it seems fine (pulling wise) and spark plug, connectors and the two cylinders seem fine and I use 1:1 so my thought is something to do with the flywheel? (What the recoil rope is attached to) but idk it just won’t start even though it was working earlier
I just had my new br600 I bought in October die on me today and the pull chord seized. Dropped it off where I bought it and have to wait until next week to find out the problem
They should make a big bore kit for these bad boys
My husband bought 2 stilh blowers 600 br New one star making a weird noise loose power then turn off didnt turn on again we took it to the store they gave us a New one the 5 months later the other blower start doing the same we use the right oíl the right measurment any advice what can be causing this
what is the stihl decarbon chemical?
What about the opposite of the seizing problem, where the wrist pin bushing (instead of a needle bearing like on smaller engine models) gets loose and the piston starts knocking and galling the cylinder?
I’ve never seen one get loose from just ware. Usually what happens is the wrist pin will start to seize and loosen up causing damage to the piston and it starts knocking.
Just curious the age/hours on this 600? Appears it was used by a commercial property maintenance biz? Backpack blower recommendation? Thanks!
That 600 was older, used for light commercial. Recommendations are tough, they all have some kind of issue. If I had to pick my top 3 it would be, 1. Echo PB770 2. Redmax EBZ7500 3. Br600.
My 600 won’t stay running unless I keep priming it. I’m not sure what I’ve done wrong
they discontinued the decarbonizing fluid but is still in the scheduled maintenence. i was told by stihl any decalcifying fluid will work.
It's almost like they were lying to you.
when i say told by stihl.. it was email from higher up on the totem pole...not the one of the local dealers or one of their kids in the shop... they had no clue at all about the product or the proceedure when we had them order it! we were able to get it at that time but it was not being produced anymore.
Hi I have the BR600 and it keeps running for a little while after I hit the kill switch sort of splutters cuts out and then runs on a bit do you know why?
I must say your video was pretty good.😂🤣😂 and I’m guessing your favorite line is pretty good🤭
LOL still weird talking to a camera.
I went out and bought the BR 800 X🤷 no issues yet🤞
Petrol ends up eating the backpack straps too over time... its the only thing I have had go wrong on my 600
I got a new br600 in box still. Probably won’t open until summer. Do you think 50:1 mix is good or should I run a little richer like 40:1. Just going to be used for my home use not commercial.
50:1 is fine
Great video, what is the cause of bogging on the 600. The engine starts 1st pull and throttles up then fades to about half revs TIA
Following this seen this on a few br 600s
I took the flame suppressor off and even though it looked clean i ran a propane torch over it and that fixed the issue@@haydenhanson1478
I have one 600? Runs idles rev-up ok for 5 seconds or so then run lean and actually stop. Other thing has so much compression need to get on compression stroke hold it down pull massive compression. Did adj high speed to no avail fuel delivery issue?
You need to check your valve adjustment. The cam gear has a compression release so if the valves are out of adjustment it will not operate properly. The other issue could be fuel delivery, check the filter or filters also inspect the tank vent.
Hi, thanks for the video. Do the fly wheels ever go bad? I have a br700 that won't start at all. It doesn't even attempt to fire. I replaced the coil and spark plug and still no dice. Any ideas?
The flywheels will sheer the key way sometimes. Check the valve adjustment and make sure it has compression as well. Could be any number of things.
nice video, my air filter gets very oily.....why would that be the case?
Could be a few things. Make sure the oil/fuel mix is correct. Carburetor may need to be replaced. If the unit is older it could be having valve or compression issues causing excessive “spit back” into the intake.
Dude ur videos are amazing
I build performance 212 engines from harbor freight they start off from 6.5 Hp are stage 3 makes 16.5 then when u start dump rton of money we got one dynoed making 41 hp running methonal nitro mix
So I build those for all mini bikes go karts and I advertise all small engine in Long Island area
And ur videos have shown some key stuff that I didt realize that I just though was grease but ur showing head gasket failer didt realize
1 question I bought personal 9010 h echo
Used all last year for my 1 house and been a year still runs great but I was looking at high speed needle
Looks like there special screw driver to adjust high speed
Do u know the part number for that or were I can get it
It’s not like rednax or husky flat head
Thanks keep up good work really look forward to ur videos
Thank you! Nitro fixes everything lol. Echo’s use a Micro D or Baby D adjustment tool. I use the Proline Micro D 91059L. Just do a general search and you’ll find them. Try to adjust the low side (top of the carb) first, those carbs usually don’t respond to high side adjustments.
@@wallysworkin823lol definitely doooosee lol
It sold from vp fuel 50-50 mix methonal nitro I can not find pure nitro to mix it my self so stupid
thank u for all the info
Appreciate leting me know
Before I even tried probably hold off on doing it then because worksss mint just me be crazy lol got to touch everything
Have u use amsoil dominator
For the 9010 I just figure because it was high performance blower maybe use the best stuff the only thing I read is had no fuel stabilizer in in it but I’m very carfuel and would change fuel in mouth before I had it ever go bad
I know lot of people use echo power bled or the red 1 like I said I’m crazy wanna use the absolute best even though if I had to fix it I could
FYI I’m not landscaper just have 1 house lol 😂 so hours on thing are nothing
Wat ur thought
How does BR500 compare to 600? I have the 500-model, same "issues" to watch over as with 600? Do you bother with 1% fuel or just go with 2%? Thanks in advance.
For the most part it’s all the same for the 500. However I don’t see as many loose engine pans, most likely due to the lower engine RPM they operate at. 2% is normal but if you are running high quality oil 1% works well to.
Ever had one that bogs above half throttle? Doesn't happen when cold. Replaced plug, coil, carb and fuel filter. Spark plug looks pretty rich, thinking a sticky valve??
You can check the valve adjustment but if the plug is “rich” it sounds like a carb issue or just an adjustment.
@@wallysworkin823 It turned out to be the coil air gap. Skipped right over that in my process of elimination. Customer changed the coil before bringing it to me 😆
How can I check the rpm’s on my 700? Cranks Good and idles good, seems like it is holding back. Purchased from a friend that now has a lawn service. Thanks
You can but a small engine tachometer. Amazon or other sites have them for cheap.
Thank you! I should have thought of that
Hi Wally. I own both blowers and appreciate this info but after changing mufflers on my 600 it still is louder than the 700. Why?
Not sure, they are the same mufflers. Although some of the older 600’s seemed to have a little heavier duty muffler.
Thanks I will just make sure the bolts are still tight.
Mine is great, but I'm getting shocked at the throttle. Somehow the spark is running down into the trigger while using it. Can't find anything about that, I'm thinking a new cable?
Make sure the wires are ok but you may be having a static issue. They a "anti static wire" you can install.
Is there any way to fix the choke switch when it brakes of the carb??
Replace the carb or you could replace the shaft if you can find a used carb. Check your local shops.
Besides the vent,what would make a 600 run great for 20 minutes then stall and not run till cool agian?
Possible coil issue.
@@wallysworkin823 Yep,ignition coil is heating up,part is over 100,dealer is hitting me for 300 adjust valves and new coil with labor.Almost the price of a new blower just for a dam coil.crazy how much stuff cost these days.
Can you put blue lock tite on the 4 pan screws?
Yes
@@wallysworkin823 ok thanks. Surprised they don’t do this from the factory knowing it’s a common problem
What kind of blower do you recommend while reading the comments it look like stilh has a lot of problem in your opinion which brand is the most reliable
Currently I like the Echo PB-9010 or PB-770.
What causes internal knocking after being held full throttle for a few minutes?
Could be a few things, if you don’t hear “knocking” when it’s cold it could be detonating or the valves could be out of adjustment. It is poss the wrist pin is bad but usually you will hear it when cold.
The valves have never been adjusted and I’ve owned it more than 10 years. It doesn’t make any noise until it’s been ran wide open for a few minutes. Thank you for your help.
Sir, this bagpack blower BR 600&700 how much in the market... I am from a Indian (Mizoram state)I have to my Jobs
How about the BR450 vs the BR600?
The 450 is a good blower. They had issues with the early models but have that fixed now. I’ll see about making a vid on that.
I have a BR600, it runs fine except recently as I'm using it it will suddenly loos power and shut off, usually when it idles down a bit. It starts right back up fine again but does the same after awhile. It will run well for several minutes or more before doing this again. Otherwise seems to have full power. I am getting a new air filter and fuel filter, maybe that will help.
Any ideas of what could be causing this??
See how it runs with the new fuel filter, it may just need a carb adjustment also. If you don’t use it on a regular basis it may need a carb overhaul. If it slowly looses power and dies it’s usually fuel system related, if it shuts off like you hit the kill switch it could be a coil problem.
YOur idle speed is too low.
@@wallysworkin823 I use it a lot, I have a lawn business.
Also to be accurate it is a 4 mix blower.
It is running fill speed.
Not completely idled down but I let up on the throttle and, yes it will shut off like hitting the kill switch.
Then starts right up, usually one pull until it does it again.
I will change the fuel filter this weekend.
Thanks for the reply.
@@chrisgrubisic3554 theres a small round vent for air on top of tank,can get dirty or gummed up,beside fuel lines
It could be your carburetor if you didn't figure the issue out I'm dealing with that kind of problem with br br600 rite now and I'm having to replace carburetor...my issue was very similar to what you described
What is the problem when primer bulb won't get gas on br700?
Could be a problem with the primer itself or the carb.
I purchased my BR600 around 2005. I've had two issues with it. The first, and most annoying....it will not use a full tank of fuel before shutting down. It will leave about a third of a tank. I need to tip the machine to get the fill opening on the tank to its highest level and fill it to the top to get decent run time. I've had it to two dealers and they haven;t been able to fix the problem. Maybe you could offer your opinion on that.
The second issue was a crank bearing fail. I'm not sure why this happened...I always use a premium brand oil. The same oil I use for all my Two stroke and 4-mix engines with no issues. My main issue with the crank bearing is that it can't be purchased separately. It would an inexpensive fix if it was. I replaced the crank assembly along with a few other parts (because it was apart) and it has been running as good or better than new since.
My research on the BR700 showed that it has different exhaust valves than the BR600. I'm not sure if that's just a part number issue or if they really are different....considering that they have the same engines. I did notice that the valve train was revised on the BR600 when I rebuilt mine. Maybe you could comment on that.
Other than the plastic at the exhaust melting.....I haven't had any of the issues you've mentioned.
Thank you for the video.
Had the same problem on my BR600.. It's the tank vent. Replace it and it will fix the problem. Use only a Stihl part
Do you have a single fuel filter in the tank? Early models had a single but the newer ones have a dual filter which helps pull fuel from both sides of the tank. I have seen several crank bearings failures, some were just part failures. Unfortunately the crank needs to be replaced and it’s not cheap. I’m not aware of a change in exhaust valves them selves, I would need to look that up. There was a change in the cams after your blower. The metal plate on the back of the cam would come off and cause damage. Good to see your still running an old unit, take care of it and it will run for a long time.
I would think that the dealers would have addressed the vent on the tank...but...you never know. Its been years since I've looked into the problem...I may have replaced the vent myself. The machine runs perfectly to that point....another reason why I don't believe it's a vent issue. Also...if I shake the machine when it begins to stumble...it will continue to run for a period of time. Suggesting that it's a fuel pickup issue.
I believe my unit has a single fuel pickup design. I'll look into that.
Thank you for the responses. I appreciate it very much.
@@victormarinelli5660 Mine is the newer dual fuel filter design. Which I replace them both when experiencing the 1/2 tank tank no fuel problem. Next, when I replaced the vent, problem solved.
@@snakeman48
Thank you Snakeman
I don't remember if I replaced the vent and I don't believe either of the dealers did. As I mentioned...I would think that the vent would be one of the priority check points for a dealer.
At this point, I'll probably replace the vent and add the additional pickup line.
Another person commented about the vent....apparently, it's an issue.
Thank you for your help.. much appreciated.
The "oil pan loosening" is sadly what's happening to mine which I bought for light commercial and home use. Won't start
I made a video on how to fix it yourself at home. You can find it in my Stihl power equipment playlist.
@@wallysworkin823 Awesome, thank you for letting me know! Can't wait to get it going again, mostly thanks to you!🤘🤘🤘😃
Did you mention the horrible fuel cap that spits fuel at you every single time you go to open it?
Haha I didn’t but check your tank vent, may want to replace it.
@@wallysworkin823 Cool! Thanks!
Mine also
10:50 br550 600 700 and 800 for some dumb reason stihl decided to use a brass bushing instead of roller bearing bushing and if you dont use the correct 2 cycle oil.............
does anyone know what the ring end gap is on the br600?
I just checked a used engine I have and it’s .018
An article by Wiseco says, “A rule of thumb for ring end gap measurement is to use the bore size in inches x .005”.
@@wallysworkin823 thank you, i have .019 with my old rings, i did go ahead and order a new setoff rings today to be safe
Coils settings
What is the tool you use for cleaning the exhaust valve without taking the engine apart?
When I get back in the shop next week I'll see if I can find the part number.
Sorry for the delay, had a hard time finding any numbers. Stihl uses the 3M Cross Buff. You can add different length arbor lengths. You can get everything from 3M.
Not that reliable if the wrist pin seizes which causes catastrophic destruction
The wrist pin has a brass bushing instead of a needle bearing… no one knows why they did that.
MY ADVICE DONT BE CHEEP ALWAYS USE THE STHIL OIL AND YOU WILL NEVER HAVE ANY PROBLEMS
Aspen blue jug or the Stihl grey jug, alkylate fuel, with Saber oil.
It gives you better performance, better throttle response, lifetime bearings, clean exhaust, temperature control, etc.
I have the BR - 600 thats 13 yrs old which has been great. Keep them clean helps with the life span. Of course do preventative maintenance is critical.
Stihl oil is trash 🤦♂️ use echo redarmor instead.
I think a lot of shit comes down to shit happens now a days. Seen random failures from people who sleep with there machines that’s how much love they get
After hearing all of this, I think I'll pass on getting a stihl.
Locktite
Get your finger out of there, and get a tripod
4 strokes are Junk, the 2 stroke blowers are way better!
I’m definitely a two stroke fan.
@@wallysworkin823 Same, not only do I feel like 4 strokes aren’t as powerful as 2 strokes but I also hate the way 4 strokes sound, the sound of them just makes me cringe
Dude..,,,just tell us then if a 600 is ok or not You sure did say a lot of neg things about it!!! SMH 🤦♀️!!!
😂 that’s why the vid is called “common problems” like anything, it’s good until it’s not.
I’ve got a br600 and it’s been flawless for me
@@FishFind3000 same here I run that bitch full throttle all the time too
I have a BR600 Magnum, homeowner usage, coil went bad out of warranty. I also think it is building up too much carbon, so I switched to Echo Red Armor.
@@luvingfully Ive had mine for either 8 or 10 years now and Its been trouble free. I used it around the house and a couple side jobs so it doesn't have a ton of use on it maybe about 100 hours tops if that. I only used stihl platinum oil and for the last 2-3 years amsoil saber.
I was about to run out and buy the BR 600. Thank God I watch the video.🤨 stihl can pound that 600 up their ass. 🤷🖕🫵💩 br 600