BMW Brake Pad Extravaganza - Part 1: Diagnosis
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- This fancy BMW convertible told the owner that it needs new brake pads, and told him to "drive moderately"... Wow.
He drove it "moderately" to the approved service center, and now it's our job to get this German pocket rocket back to full health.
We already learned our lesson on dealing with fancy new tech....RESEARCH COMES FIRST before you touch ANYTHING!!
Enjoy!
Ivan
More acronyms: Bavarian Money Waster, Bring My Wallet, Big Money Waster, any others? Thank you Ivan. Good job. Have a blessed and safe week.
Thanks Billy :)
"Bring Money With" .....esp when you go to the dealership for service
break my window
Congrats on getting to 60k subs. Keep the videos coming
Thanks Oz!!
Most BMW vehicles actually do have dipsticks located in the drivers seat.
Good one
It has dipstick and in idrive
FUCK YOU butthurt wannabe...
If someone can afford a BMW convertible, they can afford to pay for OEM parts.
Damn right!
Bmw parts really aren’t that crazy expensive to begin with. More reasonable than most Japanese cars in my experience, though admittedly it breaks slightly more often.
Yessir !!!!
@@briantii I own both. Big Price difference in parts.
Not if you buy one used. There's nothing more expensive than a cheap German luxury vehicle.
Extravaganza! .. lol Can't wait to see what this is all about! Sounds fancy. ..🤔🤔😅😅
Wow! That is totally ridiculous, not having a dipstick. To rely on electronics!! I guess more to fail. More money to be made. ... 😑
I just have to giggle at not having a dipstick for any vital fluid...pure silliness!
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I know! It's incredible!! How can you verify accuracy too? I mean we all know sensors fail....
There is no way...it's kind of scary actually. Looking forward to SUPER SATURDAY! Getting the Mystique ready for the trip ;)
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 😊😊😁😁yesss! Old reliable! I know she'll be up for it! See you soon, along with everyone else! 🤗🤗🤗
Akebono is an OE supplier to GM, amongst others. I've used 'em on a lot of vehicles, and I like them. I've never had a fitment issue, although since this is titled "extravaganza," I imagine all hell's about to break (brake?) loose! LOL
Not my bag either, Ivan! Now that '75 Pontiac Grandville convertible with a 455 that my buddy just told me about, IS! 😁
All cars have brake warning systems. If the screeching, and grinding doesn't get your attention, the secondary warning system of metal shards all over your wheels with a rusty patina, will. 👍😂
My truck also warns me when it needs break pads , when they start screeching i change them
HAHAHA that's what I'm used too ;)
GOOD ONE
Should call the dealer and get a quote on the 4 wheel brake job.
Jarret Blair it’s 2500 with rotors
Holy crap!
Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics yeah it’s crazy right. I just did a 528 and he was quoted 1700 at a local Shop I got the job easily at $1200 that was a gravy job lol
@@weldingjunkie Here it's 400 without rotors, original parts, auth shop..just the usual greed and tax on foreign stuff in US. Here they look down on US cars, because they are bad put together, not modern looking, old school technology, inefficient engines, poor handling and rusts.
I sure hope warranty was checked before performing brake pad service. These vehicle come with 4 year or 50k maintenance package from factory if purchased new. BMW will cover the labor and parts. Possibly fine grind or replace the rotor if out of specifications. Per REP’s
exactly it is under full bumper to bumper pads included
The owner probably has more money than brains.
Alot of electronics these days with the new cars i still like the old school way fixing it myself and saving the money on labour cost and the fun of doing it urself is a good learning process.Thamks.
No kidding. You will have to pry my old 90's clunkers from my cold dead hands lol!
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Oh i can believe that for sure
Brake pad wear sensors are decades old technology
Akebono ceramic front brake pads with wear sensors at RockAuto, $85
You know you want one, admit it. I like the new Mercedes, when you open the door a cool looking Mercedes emblem is projected on the ground under the door, now that is classy. Makes my heart skip a beat. Nice shout out to Scotty. I used to watch scotty on tv before you were ever born.
FCP Euro is your friend. All parts are warranted for life. If the part fails, they will replace it for free. Even wear items like brake pads and sensors.
I have an old 1994 renault..that has pad wear sensors... and new ones always came with new pads...oe or not
.... then tiny yellow light on the dash... when pad change was due :)
From a guy that lives in Europe, the whole family used to drive German cars (12 plus cars at a time)... switch to Japanese or Korean... LC120 series 500000 km, no issues at all, LC150 series 120000 no issues at all, LC40 series, no issues at all, Corolla 450000 no issues at all, Auris 220000 no issus at all...
FCP Euro is a great site for finding OE/OE Equivalent parts on Euro cars. Glad my mom doesn't need to pay the Euro tax anymore since she got rid of her Volvo.
Wear sensors and caliper bracket hardware usually come with a non-genuine brake pad set and are usually half the price of genuine pads alone.
Don't get your hands dirty, that was all I thought of Ivan.
Great video
Awesome video that bmw is very easy the hardest part is resetting the service. I like having the wear sensors sending info. I always replace them. The wear indicating doesn’t matter on the dash, it’s just mileage setting. I just reset mine if the wear indicator didn’t pop. I think the default is 32,000 or something .. Thanks for sharing... Jay
canuckguy worried that’s Excactly what they are for. Don’t get me wrong the wear indicators will def turn on the engine light but you can reset those mileage counters very easily and not always correlated to the wear indicators
canuckguy worried I know but not everyone is familiar with how bmw runs their mileage clocks I wasn’t trying to downplay your ability just clarifying myself
Yup in Part 2 we will explore the options in resetting that pesky warning message haha
Akebono Euro ceramic pads are awesome. Only thing I run on my VW/SAAB.
BMW.. How do I use my turn signal.!
In the UK Texta (from Eurocarparts) brake pads work identically to genuine BMW.
Tip regarding wear sensors. If you replace the pads but not the wear sensors, the I-Drive won’t let you reset the mileage count for pad replacement, the system is watching to see that old sensors were unplugged and new ones plugged in, if the sensors are fine just unplug them for a few minutes and then plug them in again and I-Drive will allow the reset. Could save 25-30 bucks or even 55-60 if doing both ends.
Scotty Kilmer recommends trading it in for a Toyota Corolla stick shift. LOL Another great video Ivan!
I've seen a 2006 Corolla stick shift blow a shaft bearing on the transmission at 175k miles. Strangely the automatics seem more reliable lol
Electronic dipsticks are a saviour and a curse.... Most people don't check their oil so a reminder that your oils low add 1L is great. The downfall is when people don't know what 1L is and add 2 gallons. Lol. I've drained 15L out of an 8L capacity engine. I have no idea where the extra 7L was hiding.
I was always told to inspect the passenger side first. Because it being curb side near road grim collecting which causes extra faster wear .
David E.S. I’ve heard that also. Supposedly most people make right braking turns more then left braking turns. Go figure
That is absolutely 100% correct However typically the driver side wear is faster due to the master cylinder be there close to that wheel
Welding Junkie most times I’ve changed front brakes the right side is usually more worn or if there’s grinding it’s usually the right front brake. Same with the wheel bearings. Usually I’m replacing the right wheel bearing first.
Willie Gillie see I’ve always seen the left warn more but rust, grime and grease on the pass side for curb driving but idk
Well the driver's side has the wear sensor so that's where we went ;)
What do you think about new Hyundai's being able to not allow doors to be opened into oncoming traffic? It makes me think that people are going to inadvertantly get locked in and become a possible danger in extreme situations!
there was a guy with a benz with no dipstick however his oil checking level was faulty, it was giving him wrong oil level. it told him to keep adding oil and he would just add oil. After swapping out the sensor it says the oil level is correct. however thats after draining out the excess quarts of oil in the engine.
Ivan i have a(customers) Bmw 3 series Xdrive that the auto box has failed.
It's £9700.00 (uk pounds) + oil ,torque converter and fitting !!!!!
5 years old 83.000 miles.
Quite excellent.
Ouch that is heart stopping money isn't it! Is that the 8 speed ZF? They are supposed to be pretty reliable! I was looking at the new X1 series with the 8 speed Aisin units which are Toyota manufacture so should be decent. Maybe I should get a Honda or Toyota instead 😬
@@thejoneseys Have not seen that gearbox in a Toyota. To be fair they are normally quite good ,gearbox that is.
If thats dealer quote get second opinion. Probably wiring sensor, dealer just changes assemblies.
If he has had the car since new and serviced regularly, he may be able to get a discount.
We have laws about "reasonable life expectancy", (paraphrasing), of a product, which overrides warranties.
Maybe something similar in the UK?
Not familiar with vehicles in the Republic of the United States, is it mainly mechanical audible type found on cars manufactured or sold there, rather than electronic brake pad wear warnings?. Electronic/embedded wire sure have been standard on mid to high end cars for 30 plus years in Europe.
Great job Ivan, as always.
It's all audible scrape strips in the US, I don't think many cars besides the euros have wear sensors. Maybe some new cars are implementing them for more cash flow, but it's not popular. I think the sensors are a neat "party trick" but I don't want them on my car, I'd defeat it as soon as it wore through and needed replacement.
Chrysler UK had brake wear warning lights on the UK built Chrysler Sunbeam and Avenger back in 1978 model year. Audible brake pad warning scrapers score the disks which pretty much defeats the purpose anyway. In the UK BMW wear indicators are about the equivalent of 12USD
BMW Diagnostics menu:
Your vehicle needs a front right turn signal bulb replaced!
Do you have at least $2,000 in your pocket:
- Yes: Take this car to a BMW Service Center. Replace the front bumper/turn signal assembly.
- No: Take a bus. Thank you for purchasing a BMW product. Return when you have the money!
Exit Diagnistic Menu:
- Yes: Return to the service menu when you have the money.
- No: Do you have at least $2,000 in your pocket?...……………...……
……………...
Andrew Evanoff I’ve owned my 3 series for almost 10 years. DIY I’ve never spent more than $500 on a repair. Tires are the most expensive thing I’ve bought.
@@briantii Sure. Many Harley riders also say that their bikes never have any problems.
In UK full set of 4 discs + quality Mintex pads for say an E46 £110 about 132 usd
BMWs have been identifying individual bulb failure for at least 20 years the poverty spec models would just tell you you had a bulb failure the more up-market identify the exact bulb, I find it a really useful and reliable system
Andrew Evanoff Maybe most modern Harley’s ARE reliable? I dunno. I know about 4 n52 powered e90s including mine. 4 cars. 1 is over 200k miles, another is close to 200k miles, and the other 2 are around 100k miles. All 4 have been solid reliable cars. Two friends had f30s. Neither has had any significant problems. One was a loose taillight when it was brand new. The other person had a small diff leak covered by warranty. Otherwise both trouble free. The only person I know that had a lot of problems was on an early e46, but I’ve known other people who had good results with the e46 too.
Doesn't it require 2 sensors for the front and 2 for the back? *I saw in part 2 that they're only on one side* I'd definitely rather check engine oil myself by pulling a dipstick, rather than relying on a computer.
I recently bought a front/rear set of rotors & pads for my Subaru on Amazon made my PowerStop, $180 shipped. OE replacement too, none of this economy crap. Amazon actually made an error, it showed the kit I bought fits my GT Limited, but the front rotors were too large (11.6").. the other kit that DOES fit, Amazon showed it does NOT fit. I contacted Powerstop and told them the issue, they shipped me two 10.9" front Geomet coated rotors free (the original kit did not call for coated rotors). So kudos to them!
Tip if you can't get replacement wear sensor immediately to put the pad warning light out on BMW It is a pull down circuit so simply ground the sensor wires
I noticed some uneven wear on the front pads. I hope you're gonna free off the calipers when you do the pad change. I've seen the usual BMW comments. We're not all tossers. I own an E36 318i saloon (sedan) as a 2nd car and I do use my indicators. The E36 is probably the best 3 Series that BMW ever made. Not everything is expensive from the dealer. I've driven a 2013 F30 318 diesel in M Sport trim and it is a nice 3 Series. I'm hoping to feature it on my channel if the owner ever wants me to do any work on it.
I recall someone trying to replace their wipers on a Mustang in front of an autozone a couple of months back, I was behind them checking out. Parts guy basically drew them a picture because they couldn't figure out it. I go outside and he's still trying to figure out how to get them off the glass (yes he couldn't figure how to LIFT the wiper).
hopeless lol
I don't do a lot of Euro cars, but no matter what, I replace the wear sensors, even if they haven't touched yet. The times I've tried to save the sensors, they either broke or failed soon after.
Smart policy. I would do the same, and charge full price! They even tell you that in the instructions...
On BMW a spot of 2 part expoxy to hold the used sensor in works wonders
Hey Ivan, where’d ya go? You were talking about wiper blades and then you were gone. I’m hoping to see the install of the pads and brake sensor.
Repairs coming very soon Willie :)
Akebono pads are quiet and dust-free, but have really poor initial bite compared to OE. Your customer might hate it.
I test drove it, seem to work just fine!
I was told you don't need to replace brake sensors if they haven't triggered yet.
A few tips for when you need to reset the service interval for the brake pads on (F-series) BMWs:
First, the wear sensors have multiple breakable links with different resistors in series, so in this case the rear sensor needs to be replaced in order to be able to reset the rear brake pad interval.
Second, you will find many guides online on how to reset the interval, but almost all of them omit a few essential steps: You need to have all doors closed and the ignition on (engine running or check engine light on), when you press the start button once without brake pedal the car will go to the equivalent of key position 1, you need to press it twice so the check engine light goes on.
Finally, there is no old-school maintenance booklet in the car. You need to go online (aos.bmwgroup.com), register your company and only then you can enter the service information. If you don't do this, it might become hard to make warranty claims for the customer in the future. (legally, your bills should be enough but my experience is that it's not so easy to get your lawful warranty at BMW)
Ivan, not sure if you read comments, but if you do, question for you - my floor jack knuckle where the handle mates to the jack is tilted inside its housing to one side. Is there a way to bring this back to it's original position so the handle can be inserted and it mates to the jack again? Or do I need to discard this floor jack and buy another one?
Try Harbor Freight. Don't use a broken jack!!!
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Thanks Ivan. Wasn't sure about this, so hadn't used it after this happened. Was wondering what to do ... thank you!
I have the diesel equivalent engine and it does have a dipstick. It's just slightly hidden but it is there. left backside of the engine
I know I'm late here but a lot of the comments are really confusing. Brake wear sensors have been on these cars for almost 30 years. Service interval indicators since the 80s (and common on almost all cars now). Not everyone driving these cars is an auto tech or DIYer. Some people don't realize or know you need to change your oil. A wire is a lot cheaper than getting into an accident due to shredded brakes or blowing your engine. Plain English message showing you what's wrong with your car and telling you to take care of it. A lot better than a single "check engine" light. I don't get the hate.
I have a 2015 X3 I did my brakes about 1 year ago I did front and back I used Power Stop ceramic pads. For both front and back with sensors was around $90. I left the rotors. The rotors on this car are very good. 1 year later and about 13K miles no issues they work great. I hate that there is no dipstick and also there is no drain plug for the radiator. I had to replace my thermostat and had to just let the coolant flow everywhere.
In germany you pay around 150€ (165USD) for front+rear pads inlc sensors, non performance brake. Brand ATE (premium brand)
Those BMW's sure have lots of mental gadgets. An extra $25 per wheel at brake pad time just to support the information center "time for brake pads".
It's only one sensor per set
This is what happiness to any car that is not looked after !!
(Prevention better than cure any day)
I have a 2014 535i with iDrive. My car popped a brake fluid change reminder (due every 2 years) when driving one day. Within 1 hour, my dealer service department called me to let me know my car required service and to call so I could setup and appointment. I laughed. Technology at its finest.
Side note: fcpeuro.com (I am not affiliated. Just buy a lot of BMW parts) sells OEM/OE replacement parts with a lifetime warranty. If the brakes wear out, you can use their warranty to get a new set. This goes for everything they sell! Just have to pay return shipping.
WOW lifetime brake pad replacement?!? Sign me up!
yes. Even engine oil and filter if you want to send the drain oil and filter back to them.
I see fcpeuro.com takes pay pal. Been told pay pal will pay return shipping if you use them.
Did the light go off on its own when you plugged the new wear sensors in or did you have to reset it?
need a scanner to reset
With aftermarket pads, you would be changing the rotors too next time.
In the salt belt doesn't matter what pads you use. But I have noticed the new Euros are using cheaper OEM rotors. The 2005 Volvo I worked on last year is STILL on the original rotors at 220k miles!!!!!!
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I have found OEM brake pads to be softer, hence generating more brake dust and less harsher on the rotors. But things may have changed now.
I tried the oil level measuring on a Mini Cooper once, just for laughs. The engine has to be warmed up and it takes probably a full two minutes for it to complete the measurement. I still don't understand how that's better than an old-fashioned dipstick.
Turn the key and it really “blings”.
Info-Tainment. What a joke. Looking forward to the install Ivan!
Welcome to Bimmers Ivan...lol. I put the same pads on that 335i I built, they seemed weak at first compared to the oem ones but after a few hundred miles they were fine.... (initial bite was weak )...any plans to be in my neck of the woods again ? How's Joe doing ?
I love these videos
For the sake of science, you should try to paint over the contacts on that sensor with a silver conductive paint pen. Maybe spray paint over it to prevent corrosion. I am curious to see if that would allow you to reuse the brake sensor.
Also, I used to have a 1983 renault that had a needle on the cluster that showed the oil level as long as the key was in the on position but not running.
haha no one has time for silver paint ;)
Rover had dashboard oil level indicators at key on in the 1950's & 60's ISTR it worked through the fuel gauge Later Chrysler UK and Chrysler France had oil level warning lights on the Avenger, Sunbeam, Alpine and Horizon ranges but that was a very unreliable system.
Too fancy for me. Looked at a 94 325i today, DORMAN guibo broke apart and took a chunk out of the transmission near the output shaft. I'm just surprised it lasted over a year..
What's a guibo?
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Driveshaft flex disc* .. rubber piece that connects driveshaft to transmission.
wow...never seen rubber between a driveshaft and a transmission lol :)
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics big disc common on mb.
All very common on European cars. No big deal really 😉👍
Niamh Healy Exactly. Love these guys knocking the car for working as designed. BMW didn’t make it hard to diy. It’s just how it works. No big deal. These cars drive great unlike most of the current crossover yawn mobiles.
canuckguy worried I guess? I’ve never spent more than 500 bux fixing mine in 10 years. Front brakes are $100 bux vs $80 on our Pilot. Given the horrific braking of the Pilot and the amazing brakes on the 3 series it seems like a bargain to me. Motor mounts on our Pilot? $400 (each) and they break. Motor mounts on the 3 series? $100 and last forever. I’ve got plenty of examples. Yes BMWs in general break more, but the parts aren’t generally insane and if you work with a good independent mechanic like Ivan and buy non-OEM bagged equivalent parts, they can be downright affordable even..
I'm not being snobby at all lol where I live BMW's are common and plenty of people including myself DIY them. Like I said, no big deal.
canuckguy worried Heh it’s all good. Parts pricing is just weird sometimes. My local Honda dealer being the absolute worst for price gouging diy people. Price is competitive if you’re taking it in, but man... they get you if all you want are parts. $28 bux for a gallon of diluted antifreeze. Bmw dealer is like $20 and it makes 2 gallons. Lexus charged me $30 bux for two o rings - I would have walked but the size wasn’t published and they were needed during a timing belt job. The local market is just insane, but at least the bmw dealer will (or used to at least) match online prices. Was like a breath of fresh air going in there.
PS - Hard to be a snob when you drive a $5k car and diy everything. :-)
canuckguy worried Mostly agree. BMW values drop insanely fast. If you buy used they might be less, but buying new for true.
Cost more to repair? Just depends. You can fix a lot of sensors and oil leaks on a bmw for the price of a fwd GM transmission. Really depends on the model. If you’re talking about an I4 or i6 bmw in a 3 series then they’re pretty solid and probably won’t ever cost you much. Probably less long term than many domestic cars. If you’re talking about a 550i with the hot vee twin turbo v8... yeah... that’s going to cost a fortune. They break a lot and it’s never cheap.
Cost of ownership kinda the same deal. More than what is really the question. I convinced a friend of mine to pick up a 3 series since he wanted a 4 door with a manual transmission, he was worried about the costs too. 3 years later and he even admits that it’s really not anymore expensive than anything else. He spends more on his Nissans. His has 200k+ miles and even the original clutch.
I got over the car thing and what people drive a long time ago. I bought mine because the wife said I had to have 4 doors, and I said rwd and manual. Not many choices. Just trying to set the record straight that not all of these cars are crazy expensive to own.
Thanks for the dedication it’s inspiring and much appreciated
I wanted to be a cheapskate on my BMW and not replace the sensor. Somehow the car knew it was not replaced and the remaining mileage on the Idrive (which I reset from the cluster) just fell off after about an hour. Being confused I kept on resetting it and the same happened. Then I unplugged the sensor and reconnected it. Then it would only reset to 1000 miles. After that the message came back 1000 miles later. The fix was to do another pretend sensor replacement and with an X Tool scan tool reset the number of pad changes back to the actual number the car has had. Crazy
Wow I would just buy the stupid sensor haha
I'm surprised your first thought wasn't to just flow some solder across those sensor contacts instead of replacing the sensors.
Ivan, while working on Eurotrash, order parts from FCP Euro. You get better prices and warranty.
only thing with the akebonos sometimes they dont come with all the anti rattle shim plates on the back of the pads and u will need to reuse them from the oem pads.
Wait for Part 2. Akebonos don't cut corners ;)
Do bmw 530i 2020 sport cars tell you also. I have one but im not sure if it warns you also. I tried looking into the system butbi couldnt find it.
It's an alternive "moneylight" if dependend on the dealer plant a tree in your garden which grow "greenbacks" LOL
Ivan next you’ll need a dealer appointed chauffer to drive your self driving car
Best place for a BMW is in the scrap yard, cost of parts through the roof, electrical is nightmare. BTW, great diagnosing and troubleshooting all these cars you work on.
haha this was a fun one for me because it was new and Euro ;)
Good job
Excelent tutorial thank you Ivan
I drive a 2015 228i coupe and have come to grips with the lack of a dipstick.I just pull half way into my garage and let the iDrive measure it.The ECU will put it into limp home mode or shut the engine down if the oil gets too low.I trust the system.(gulp)
I dont trust those systems , when it malfunction you will add to much oil or it would tell you the oil is fine when in reality its low or empty.
I was just quoted $500 for front pads and rotors on a 2002 Subaru Forester. I’ve been going to this shop for 15 years. I promptly drove away and will never return.
$300 is my ballpark. Unless It's a Geo Prizm....then $200 haha
Are there sensors on both sides front and rear?
It's a performance car.
2004 BMW 3 brand new. Wife: "I love this little sporty car."
18k miles, brake pads gone, (brakes got real grabby and hard to control)
Mech: "It needs new pads, and new rotors too because they are made of soft metal. For best performance."
Me: "But why so soon? And how does soft metal rotors make them perform better?"
Mech: "It's a performance car. Performance cars need brakes more often."
Me: "But my Ranger truck has 100k on the brakes and they are still fine. And in terms of performance I can still lock them down easily."
Mech: "It's a performance car."
Me: "Yes,... you.. said that."
39k miles. New pads and rotors again.
Same conversation again.
25k miles needed new main wiring harness.
30k miles needed new main wiring harness. Yes again.
Me: "It's leaking oil"
Mech: "Performance cars always leak oil."
Me: "What?! er... Why?!"
Car often stalled out in intersections since new. Left wife stranded in middle of intersections dozens of times.
More warranty service. Sometimes weeks at a time at the dealer. Longest was 3 weeks.
Had a nice feature to lower all the windows all the way down after locking the car and leaving it in a parking lot.
Sometimes we would only get a few dozen feet away and we could hear the windows all go down so we would walk
back and try again.
Other times we were too far away to hear and would get back to find all the windows down.
Fortunately it never rained on any of these occasions.
Got so we would lock it up and stand there for a couple minutes to make sure windows stayed up.
Never got 20k miles out of the brakes.
Car never quit stalling out in intersections.
At 75k miles. Wife(between sobs): "I hate this car."
At 75k miles, 25k miles after warranty expired. I totaled up all the money spent by BMW and by us to repair this car.
The repairs they did were under warranty but they had a cost that someone had to pay.
The total exceeded the original price of the car.
And in terms of performance. My Ranger drove better. Accelerated faster(lots faster). Cornered better. Shifted gears better.
BTW, the automatic transmission was terrible. It would take somewhere between 1 to 3 seconds between gears.
During that time the engine was not engaged to the wheels at all, just coasting.
Traded it in for a Honda. When the Honda dealer drove the BMW away it stalled in his parking lot. Ha ha ha.
I wonder how good Honda warranty service is? 110k miles. Never been. 'cept for that stupid air bag thing.
A little shrapnel is good for the soul.
It was a performance car.
LOL great story, thanks for sharing! What a Lemon!
You don't have to measure your engine oil level, it will give a warning automatically when the level is too low. It's just there for when you want to know the exact level (e.g. should I buy a spare oil bottle)
OMG! Really. I can pull my own dip stick! (Evil grin) Thank you very much! I guess if you own a BMW you can just give the dealer free access to your Bank account.!
I’m guessing the lack of a dipstick is to meet ever tougher evaporative emissions laws in various places around the world. Having a single design to meet the toughest standard is the cheapest way to produce the vehicle. Just a guess. Perhaps it’s simply a solution looking for a problem!
Open toe safety flops! Cool!
I put Bosch pads in my BMW. They shed all over the rims I hate them. I bypassed the sensors by soldering the two wires together. We have state inspections dont need a sensor.
Ivan,
Im not a fan of fancy anything. BTW how many miles on those pads?
God bless
Paul
Paul1958R Believe it or not BMWs not that expensive compared to other makes these days. If you look at a brand new Camry fully loaded like a BMW you’re really close to the price of a three series
Ivan , What do you think of electronic parking brakes on new cars today? Lmk
Jeremy Anthony just need a scanner to rewind them I don’t like them because the unit brakes a lot and costly it’s a motor in the truck usually
I think it's the most pointless gizmo ever. But hey, it saves some space in the center console xD
What no wear sensor for the wiper blades? come on BMW
14:09 "Getting sillier and sillier every model year." Yeah, agreed. 'normal' cars are bad enough but the high end cars keep piling on all these absurd gadgets to out-do the others. This arms race of gadgets is getting out of hand.
100% agreed. If only we could keep our 1990s classics from rusting!
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I have an 08 Corolla, a lot of that car goes back to the 90's. A bit low tech for some people, but with regular rust proofing, I plan to drive that thing until the paint falls off.
Then spray it again....
arms race of gadjets lol true!!!
The door ding is the only thing they got right, the rest is grossly overdone.
Ivan I have to take you scuba diving
Right after I take some flying lessons ;)
thing is the right word for that heap.
No matter what everybody here says, this is a spectacular amazing car! 2.8 x drive straight chick hunter
I don't think the oem parts are best in all cases... bmw loves TRW and textar pads, and brembo (ORIGINAL) for discs. As for arms and etc again TRW and meyle
BMW
Big Money Wasted
And you don't even get a dipstick ! I guess the owner is the dipstick lol
In Poland we say "You're going to have expenses" because it matches the BMW acronym :D
But still it feels and drives like something that has never been produced in the US, it's like comparing F1 to a tractor
It has auto oil check and dipstick lol
Nice safety shoes......
My favorite summer footwear haha
the sensor wire should come with the brake pads for £100 a pair I would expect so (norm pre attached or in the box in box, with brake pads I normally get)
Welcome to BMW
Pads for BMW are dirt cheap in Europe, when parts or tools cross the Atlantic in either direction the price goes crazy
I`m a fan of cars that warn you if anything is wrong … but that is too much … if you follow that instructions, you`re in a shop every few weeks instead of doing it all at one time... but the system was right, it needed new brakes… so not too much to complain. I personally would prefer it to get a message before they`re down to a level where you have to drive carefully
Caliper is stuck, very much difference in wear outside /inside pads
Thank God I am too unsophisticated to drive a car that refined.
BMW does not make brake pads. They use an OE supplier. OE parts can be purchased without the BMW logo at a much lower price.
Ultimate driving machines have ultimate repair bills!!!!!
Can't wait to read the comments about the German over-engineering :)
Modern, not German. 😂
Don’t need a rear sensor.
Ivan, another decade even the least expensive vehicle will be like this BMer. Don't you know the dealers want to eliminate independent mechanics.
got rid of trans stick and oil stick crazy seen 05ish mb wagon thought dip stick was broke it was there just the top,you could get a test stick.from dealer, ,through the dash check nuts ,acakyboneo clapiers on 2000 jeep lol.
What happen to scraper clips ?
hahaha good question! Apparently those are rather annoying....the car should just display a friendly reminder to "make an appointment with your service advisor" xD
I personally don't see the " extravaganza " here, except that it makes for a good title. Since you were on ecstuning you might have seen the Pagid front and back set for 188$(free shipping for orders over 49$,delivery 2-3 days from Ohio). That is very reasonable for high quality pads for any make and model. Actually Pagid makes high quality pads for racing that meet or exceed OEM spec. Now if you're a cheapskate,drive a hillbilly pickup truck and don't mind the insane squealing from Chinese steel pads from Autozone,Advance,O'Reilly then go right ahead and buy them for 39$ a set! Good luck with them!
Speaking of sensors,I'll take a sensor that tells me when it's time to change the pads any day over the STUPID design they have in generic pads, where the " sensor " is a metal tab that starts touching the rotor making a crazy squealing noise! Keep driving and you'll wear a nice groove in the rotor and you'll have to replace that too! STUPID STUPID STUPID! And BTW,since you know how simple that sensor is, you don't have to buy OEM sensors,BMW doesn't make sensors...they just put their name on it and charge double : just buy HOLSTEIN or FEBI or URO for 11 bucks and they'll do the same job.
I can agree with you about the lack of a dipstick and many other stupid things European manufacturers do,but that's for another discussion...
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A bmw customer cannot afford the luxury of 188 dollar brake pads . They are still paying the lease and full insurance. Besides they saw them at Autozone for 40 dollars , and they said oem quality 😄
Underfoot Adventures I personally haven’t met a BMW owner that can’t afford 188$ brake pads. Also,I blame it on the shops that agree to install Autozone,Advance,O’Reilly brake pads...they have to tell them from the start they’re not going to work,simple as that!
The vehicle has no Dip Stick. Naw, they left him at the factory.
How many miles on it.
46k or so...brand new