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I used lazy shell on peach with the star egg to very slowly beat culex.
I beat Culex 3D in 12 hours of game play!
66 Turns baby!
more or less same! I beat him in 61
@@kittyfirest0rm961 Great job!!!
Are you talking about 3d culex or 2d culex
@@Thecampfire101 Not sure if you meant them or me, but I ment 3D Culex.
It would've been so cool of you were able to swap out mario, like they added the ability to swap out members during the fight for more strategies why not an option to swap mario? Also Luigi could've been an great addition to even out the members to 6 and had more funny dialog between him and mario in certain moments.
I wanted rosalina
Who knows? Maybe with some DLC the Eternal Understudy or Higher Power just might show up.
@@tantacles just beat the game today. In my experience for the rankings. I found Geno to be too expensive and the time normal attacks are oddly awkward to pull off in this version. My party most consistent of Bowser with zoom shoes and Mallow. Both thunder bolt or snowy and Terrorize is so cheap compared the rest of the screen nukes it made the game go by so very fast. The only fights Geno was useful were bosses with no weaknesses and had multiple targets. In Original game Bowser was the worst due to how impossible his specials were to pull off. The remake made him into better Geno. I some time just swapped Geno in for the full party buff triple an switch him out.
Peach is still absolutely insane in this game, although, everyone else seems to be more balanced imo
With the ability to switch in/out mid-battle, I think Bowser sees more play and Peach sees less. Bowser’s fantastic for random enemies and when you’re not in need of heal, and when you do you can bring in Peachie for a quick hug.
This is actually a great point. The party switching does change things quite a bit.
Actually this applies to Geno as well, especially Lazy Shell Geno.
You don't really have to commit to Geno, you just bring him out, use Geno Boost, then swap him away for whoever else you want. Geno Boost doesn't care about offensive stats, so if you're gonna use him this way, he looses nothing, and you probably don't have to heal him for this service, or at least very infrequently.
Also of note is maybe "storing" Geno boost, that is boosting someone, then putting them in the back so they dodge dispels. This might be a really good synergy with Bowser or Peach, since Bowser can jump out, clobber someone, then duck out.
This ALSO further boosts the Lazy Shell, since a character can very much live a life of just coming out to tank for someone else. Bowser in particular, since if you're not interested in using him to fight, he's a nigh unkillable brick that just sits there, maybe chucking items and not dying while you set up for big turns and protecting buffs.
Peach probably still uses it best... but you have interesting options.
Yooo someone else uses the name Peachie!
I legitimately had Mario die 3 times in one fight in the Sunken Ship.
This is how I played too. Geno would boost, Bowser would debuff, then Peach would come in when someone is low on health. Plus Shooting Star Shot is the best triple move.
Peach is such a broken character. She is a tank.
"Buh bye, don't buy a boat!" Whew I'm glad I heard that today, I almost bought a boat this afternoon!
Currently I have the lazy shell equipped. Well thats what I call staying in bed and not wearing pants, but same deal. Great video!
as someone who has not played the remake yet this was very interesting. thanks
Every time I see a video called "I Rank Every [Category of Thing]" I'm always prepared for a really long video that gets super granular by the end. I was shocked by how short this one is and then I remembered Mario RPG has five characters.
Mario with his weapon Lazy shell, super suit armor and attack scarf is pretty OP to me. Definitely S tier.
My issue with mario is that his aoe attacks are not very good, ultra jump do different damage to each enemy and requires a lot of skill to get good damage, ultra fireball does very mid damage because uses magic attack, but still the best physic attacker
Mallow turned into my favourite in this iteration with Thunderbolt alone. Two FP for a quick special that does significant damage is so busted. Combined with the fact that Thought Peek contributes to the bestiary makes him a hard party member to ever not main. His timed attacks are all much easier to perfect than most others as well.
*BEST* Team: Mario, Peach and Geno! 👌
That was my team of choice in the original. In the remake I swapped Peach for Bowser but occasionally brought Peach back in for tougher fights like Smithy, Culex and the post game bosses.
@@Dante... That was my Team in The SNES Game too.
Mario damage Dealer, Geno Stat boostet and Peach ultimate Healer 🤗
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I feel like Mallow and Bowser can be a bit higher.
A lot of things are weak against Lightning and Ice - the two things Mallow covers. It’s actually way more than I remember (cuz the game actually tells you now lol). So I was using him a lot.
Bowser also has some *crazy* team attacks with everyone. I used Clown Car Barrage the most because it was great at clearing out large encounters. But the one he has with Geno is also pretty nuts.
But something they both have in common is that being able to switch them in and out has made them a lot better than they were in the original.
I agree. People say Mallow sucks, but I remember using him to hit with Ice and thunder when I looked for enemy weaknesses. And Bowser’s team attacks were always devastating as hell.
I've always used Bowser, I don't care were he sits, but in the remake his tripple with Peach and Mario is bonkers.
As for Mallow, he's definitely stronger than in the original. I figured that out when he made Spearovitch his bitch, and then in Booster round 2, two turned all 3 sniffits, making the fight a joke.
Mallow is so underrated. Here's how you use him, you upgrade only the MGA, MGD (with occasional HP whenver there's a leap) as he levels up and use him as an elemental glass cannon. Tons of enemies are weak to lightning and ice, including the crystals of Culex and two of Smithy's final forms. I did more than 900 for Smithy using Shocker on his tank form, I'm sure with the right equipments he can do more than a thousand; he basically did half the last fight alone. Best map clearer for normal enemies too that only costs 2FP, I know FP is not that much of a big deal in this game, but it's also such a quick and easy spell. Mallow is also more tanky than you think, especially MGD. Most late game enemies have super powerful MGA, but his pure MGD is more than enough to protect him.
This is not even including the fact that I need Thought Peek for almost all the enemies. Really hard not to main Mallow. It was true back in the Snes days, it's more so now that there's a Monster List to complete. With Mario and Mallow with sufficient awareness of your enemies weaknesses, along with Geno which is just best all around, swapping in Peach and Bowser whenever you need healing and raw attack power/triple move, you just steamroll the game. Plus it was poetic to end the game with the triple move with the other two OG characters of SMRPG.
Peach with Lazy Shell was the reason why I was able to beat 2D Culex on my first try. I was spending resources trying to revive my characters , then I realized I could just take out one of the crystals first while Peach tanked everything. Once that was done, I revived my team and brought down the rest of the crystals.
Anyone that wears the Lazy Shell needs the Jinx Belt to offset the attack damage nerfs.
It's why everyone uses it on Peach, you kinda don't really care about the damage nerf so giving the Jinx Belt to another character does the job
I will say I really love the addition of being able to swap out party members mid-battle they added to this remake. In the original game I primarily stuck with Mario/Geno/Peach but thanks to being able to swap out the party members whenever I wanted I also gave Mallow and Bowser plenty of time to shine, including during the final boss and the rematch fight with . Geno and Peach were still my primary party members but it was nice to give Mallow and Bowser attention too.
Most players do not know this, but Mario's 3FP costing Jump attack gets stronger the more you use it in the original SNES version at least. I think it caps its power at something like 150 perfect timed hits. I've seen that jump attack deal over 1000 damage to a single paratroopa enemy in the first area with a max level Mario with a max jump stat. I imagine the attack scarf and super suit make this even more ridiculous.
This. I used to think Mario was mediocre and would build him as a lazy shell attacker until I found out about his jump scaling with use. Now he's usually the one carrying the party allowing me to skip most battles since he's strong enough to deal with just about anything that's about to come up.
Bowser in the Belome rematch is goated tho. His poison gas still hits no matter if Belome has clones out or not.
My poor Mallow baby! But you're not wrong. I've always wished Shocker was just a bit less suck for a GIANT lightning bolt.
Points for the Illusion of Gaia music in the background. Great video. You just gained a subscriber!
I wish Bowser was better in this game. For some reason, starting at level 19, Bowser will do LESS physical damage than Peach when both have their respective equipment. Peach actually becomes one of your best physical damage dealers with the frying pan and Bowser just...just does not. Poor Bowser. If he got a massive buff to every stat he'd be really good and fun but he's just not and it makes me sad.
Peach was the MVP of my run ! I never used her as a kid and also the Punchinello post game fight she can put the bombs to sleep which was necessary for me because I couldn't get the timing
Mallow has 3 great uses:
1. *Troopa Pin* - AOE clear basically guaranteed before any enemy can attack.
2. *Best Magic* - Highest magic stat in game. Weaknesses do BIG damage when combined with Attack Up. (x3)
3. *Ally Buff* - Gives whole party +25% to their Magic stat.
Also:
4. *Super Suit* - Since Magic is the most impactful stat, due to its limited distribution, the +50 Magic the Super Suit gives is begging to be used. This works best on Mario, but Mario is already plenty strong with the Attack Scarf. Magic buffs are most impactful in AOE attacks and when exploiting weaknesses. So, Mallow is the best fit for these criteria. His Snowy and Star Rain got a big buff and Shocker has always been good. With all the multipliers added up, his Snowy can do 1200 damage to Red Gem 3D. Also, his Attack stat becomes just as good as Geno/Peach when using Super Suit.
Freaking wonderful game! Just beat it last night! I think I'm going to try a one character only run in the future though!!!
Awesome! Trust me: start with Peach or Geno for best results.
The ability to switch party members mid battle meant I could be more flexible with my team composition, and I found a lot more use out of Bowser and Mallow in late game than I would have in the original.
Though I still love Geno and Peach, and I use them the most.
Damn i had hope they give Mallow the Status effect clear on his HP rain (Well maybe add a Revive too but weaker than Peach come back) in the remake but they were abit TOO faithful to the original
Mario not being in S tier is criminal as he's the most OP party member in the game when he's got his Attack Scarf, Super Suit and Lazy Shell combo and the fact that you put Geno in S tier for his Geno boost alone is a huge fail on your part. That move sucks as it's to slow to use in normal fights as they end to quickly and even some boss fights end to quickly to use Geno boost and now with the new triple party attack you can end some boss fights even faster.
I had a good time watching this on the bus when heading home from work 😁
I wish they would have had some stats changed and extra equipment for Bowser and Mallow to make them better through the late game. The Wonder Chomp weapon before or during the 6th star would have been golden for Bowser.
I had to use lazy shell peach to make it through my favorite boss in the game the axes rangers I wasent expecting them to be so tough.
I loved this game on the Super Nintendo, looking forward to playing the switch version.
Just throwing this out there. The first Culex battle can be easily won with Peach wearing the Lazy Shell. Just keep her healed until every enemy runs out of FP. Attack when you can. First go for Earth or Wind, then Water, Fire, the Culex. And when they run out of FP, revive your party members and you're done. And you can do something similar with Culex 3D.
Malo is my favorite character I love the fact it’s a cloud that can use the weather as wepons like Lightning Snowy and Rain I understand why Malo dose not use the sun it’s not a Wether it’s just a Star by itself and I just love that Malo is also can be a Healer they may be not the best but there still the best in my book.
first time i fought culex i was showing my sibling the fight (i knew about it before i've just never done it), and i had peach with the lazy shell on, and we kept joking that lazy shell peach is god because she kept taking like 1 damage. i think she also had the ghost medal on so she had even more defense
Lazy Shell Geno
If all you ever do is use Geno for Geno Boost, Lazy Shell is good enough on him. Simply start the battle with a fast party, and Swap Geno in to get around the Speed loss. However, if Geno is slower, this does mean the 2nd team member misses 1 extra turn of being Boosted. This can be circumvented by Speed accessories, since their Speed buffs are not affected by the Lazy Shell. But, then you have the problem of one party member being slower than 20 speed. You also have the awkwardness of trying to Boost the 3rd party member after switching Geno out, which requires Yoshi-Ade.
Geno's armor is weaker than Mario's, Mallow's and Peach's. So, he gets more out of Lazy Shell. But due to all the complications, it's somewhat inefficient. You always have the option of using Bombs to attack with the Lazy Shell. But that's true for everyone. Bowser is a much better dedicated item user.
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Peach with lazy shell and safety badge = unkillable
I started this game today and maybe I accidentally overleveled but I was able to kill Grate Guy in like 4 hits before he could get to piggyback Knife Guy. Did they forget to balance the difficulty for the new combo gauge buffs or was I just too buff? I don't think I even Geno Boosted.
They didn't forget, they made it even easier.
The only time I used the lazy shell equipment on Mario was the Johnny refight.
My good sir, you did not just call him Gino in the timeline thing. Rosalina frowns upon you.
Mallow is really great. Almost every enemy in Land's End & Volcano are weak to Ice. You just give him a Speed accessory + Work Pants, and he clears the entire enemy team. Also, most bosses are weak to Lightning or Ice. He also gains access to the first AoE damage in the game and has probably killed the most trash mobs/boss adds in the game for me.
Was glad to see Geno and Peach in S tier, they are definitely the strongest in the game. Geno with the Jinx Belt helped cure his "glass cannon" status.
My SMRPG tier list for the original:
S: Peach, Mario
A: Geno
B: Mallow
C: Bowser
for the remake:
S: Mallow, Mario
A: Geno, Bowser
B: Peach
Mario: required party member in both versions, access to broken accessories and broken spells in the Jump line. Unparalleled single-target damage master.
Mallow: The primary offensive magic user in the party. Situational in the original, invaluable in the remake due to indirect buffs favoring him heavily since his ally buff being Magic Attack combined with his spells offering cheaper multi-target damage than anyone else + the ability to take advantage of elemental weaknesses and him and Bowser being required to pull off the best Triple Move in the entire game.
Geno: Sticks to his role as a stat buffer and secondary ST- and MT-damage dealer. Due to the revamped inventory system and the ease of getting Frog Coins due to the Stronger Enemy mechanic, Geno faces harder competition for the third main party slot since Party Energizers are easier to get hold off and hoard, and Bowser's raw stats and better defenses will keep him competitive with Geno up until around late Barrel Volcano/early Bowser's Keep where Geno starts getting armor and weapons that help shore up his fragility and lets him equal and (later in Bowser's Keep) surpass the big turtle in physical damage + this is when he's also started to learn MT-target damage spells which surpass Bowser's in pure damage dealing potential, which makes him notably better until postgame allows Bowser to catch up with him again due to his postgame weapon allowing him to outdamage Geno. He and Bowser are required for the second-best Triple Move though, which is better than Mallow + Bowser's move in certain situations.
Bowser: Worst party member in the original and warms the bench the most there. In the remake however, he is consistently your second choice for the third main party slot, competing with Geno for that position. In Bowser's case, this is due to higher physical damage if Geno's ally buffs are unavailable, access to Terrorize as an MT-damage spell with a chance of Fear (which cuts enemy defenses and offenses down which makes your own attacks more effective, especially with the Offense buff), and higher base HP and base Defense which let him take hits better than Geno for most of the game. For the remake in general, Bowser starts out better, then Geno catches up and you field one of them depending on what you want or need more, then Bowser falls off around late Barrel Volcano or Bowser's Keep, then catches up to Geno during the postgame and the one you choose to field is once again up to you.
Peach: The undisputed best in the original, and she has retained everything that made her good in that game. However, indirect changes to the game mechanics have also indirectly nerfed her as a character because the changes done means that her speciality as the undisputed best healer is significantly less needed here than in the original, and items are now much more capable of filling the void left by not having her in the party. She's warming the bench a lot in the remake until you sub her in because you really need her healing spells, her status effects are a lot more situational than Bowser's Terrorize, Psych Bomb only deals damage equal to Mallow's Star Rain and costs a bit more + Mallow has the Magic Attack ally buff which means he's required to have if you want Psych Bomb to be at it's best. Her Triple Moves are also very situational, especially her Triple Move with Geno. (Mario/Peach/Geno was the original SMRPG god team.) As a result, she's probably the worst character in the remake; not because she isn't what she was in the original, but because the remake powercrept her.
I have a soft spot for bowser after the movie 🥹 i always have him, mario and peach/mallow for heals and barrage.
Mario + Bowser + Peach.
Mario Peach Geno is my main team and I love their triple move, so I very much approve of this ranking, lol
Peach basically carries the majority of the fights later in the game, she's also the one character that you absolutely need to have alive to defeat Culex 3D
Doesnt matter that much but id put lazy shell bowser over lazy shell mario purely bc the sheer tankiness of the turtle with it, allowing him to live basically forever, so like he just slowly but surely can whittle down basically anyone even if you were to run out of pickups
I would say Lazy Shell builds that aren't Peach = dedicated Item attacker. Bowser + Lazy Shell + Safety Ring + Geno Boost = Unkillable Rock Candy spammer. Not that I prefer to play this way, but it is a valid option. Inflexible, but that's still 300 damage a pop for 900+ any Freebies, plus Fire and Ice Bombs.
Mallow with the Super Suit and Quartz Charm is so insane. Snowy and Shocker for weaknesses which a lot of even endgame bosses have deal so much more damage than other characters.
You don't need peach for the game at all, and ge o boosting is such a waste of time for anything in the game.
But the Mario, Bowser and Mallow team is the best team in the remake again for the weaknesses. Just deals so much more damage than anything else.
In the remake, I don't even use the lazy shell armor. Like the safety ring, they removed its ability to block elemental damage. That, combined with how it nerfs attack, makes it significantly less useful. Something he doesn't mention here is that it also sets your speed to 0, which is why I always combined it with the Jinx Belt in the original (which gives you +12 speed if I recall correctly). Even in the original, the only ones I would ever put it on were Peach and Mario, because they are the only ones who get weapons "beyond" the final weapons in Bowser's Keep.
Personally, I always liked Mallow in the party. I typically am slightly over-leveled, so I don't need the healing that Peach offers (Mallow's weaker healing is more than adequate), and Psych Bomb takes a ton of FP. Peach isn't worth anything offensively until you get the frying pan either. I also found that even in the later game (especially in Bowser's Keep doing the fighting doors), thunderbolt is still strong enough to take out most enemies with a single hit at a cost of only 2FP. While Mallow has the fewest hit points throughout the game (except for the first like two levels you have Peach), he also has among the better defenses (he has the best magic defense if my memory serves me, and his physical defense was still okay).
For me, Mario and Bowser were both one trick ponies. Bowser is pretty much physical only, Whereas Mario has middling physical and jump. I never found his fire spells to be useful because his magic attack was poor. I typically run Bowser in Booster's tower, but take him out right after the cake, not normally to be seen again until I get to Bowser's Castle, where he is only useful because he scares the monsters away.
Does it set your speed to zero? I thought that was only true with characters that were slow to begin with, like Mallow. I have to reinvestigate..
@@Manas-co8wl To be honest, I am not sure if it sets the speed to 0 or if it is just a -20 (or something) modifier
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King Calamari and Chained Kong need to appear in more games.
I make a short Ranking how i would Rank them.
1.Mario -> A Tier because of dps
2.Geno -> S tier because of his really Strong AOE Attacks
3.Mellow -> A Tier-> solid AOE Damage and a heal option
4.Bowser -> B Tier his moveset isnt really good but his Fear Attack is usefull
5. Peach -> A Tier because she is a great healer but doesnt really do much damage at all, is use her more for support.
Thats what i think.
Lazy Shell Bowser
He is actually one of the best users of the Lazy Shell. His Heel Shell is garbage, worse than Work Pants. Bowser mostly gets by on his level up stats alone. This means that wearing the Lazy Shell is a BIG jump in defenses for him. He's actually invincible. And he gets about 220 HP without any investment. So what is he good for in this state? *_ITEMS_*
Bowser can solo Culex with Bombs in the SNES version. And with the remake giving us TONS more item inventory, he gets even more useful. And if you ever run out, you can always use Star Egg. But that has never happened to me.
Lazy Shell Peach pairs perfectly with the Safety Badge. Unkillable, unstatusable, and keeps entire team alive and well. S+ tier imo
Lazy shell peach would prefer jinx belt actually
@@tantacles May I ask why? Safety guards against mortal blows just like the Jinx belt while also offering 70% damage reduction against elemental attacks and immunity from status effects. I would think the value from the above would be better than the 27 points towards offense and defense. Granted, haven’t done much with new game+ yet, but Peach seemed physically tanky enough at 30, and attack power is moot with Lazy Shell anyways. Thanks for replying and discussing!
Lazy shell already reduces elemental attacks markedly AND gives immunity to status effects. The only thing it doesn’t do is give immunity to instant death. However with jinkx belt she reclaims some of her offensive potential and avoids instant death. The safety ring is frankly redundant and is better used on someone who doesn’t have lazy shell armor equipped.
Quartz charm would be fine too.
@@tantacles oh man, had no clue Lazy Shell prevented status effects! Not sure how I missed that reading through. Makes total sense. Thanks, and you earned my sub!
Peach with Super Suit is God tier....
You should make a video on how to do a hard mode challenge run. Like a run without armor or accessories? I don’t know how that would work as I haven’t had time to test it yet.
My video coming out today is basically a no random battles tutorial. 🤷
I watched a guy beat 3d culex in 4 turns. Mario is far and beyond the best character just land 100 super jumps(note this is not easy) but he can reach almost 3k dps per turn. Mallow can also star rain and hits near 400-600 per turn. Nobody else competes with this damage.
It's weird seeing mallow and Bowser in the same tier despite how many enemies are weak to the former's spells
It would’ve been so sick if we could’ve gotten Donkey Kong as an additional character. Like if there was a Donkey Kong Country Isle with five different levels and it was paid(or free would be cool but unrealistic)DLC for $20, this DLC would be available at any time after Rose Town and so you can just go ahead and unlock Donkey Kong and the exclusive items to help you in the main story if you’d like. It would probably have a couple other Kongs in the DLC but it’s unrealistic to expect them playable too, but I think this is a great Idea, what are ur guys’ thoughts?
I would have loved this.
Good list. Currently have the party at level 20. Decided to see how stats compared without gear and the interesting find is Mario’s stats are bad; Geno’s stats are better in every attribute. His attack is 3rd highest(119): barely above Peach’s(114), and completely overshadowed by Geno and Bowser (145, 148 respectively). Mallow is lowest at (110). His remaining stats are all 3rd place with exception of Magic Def; which is last.
I think Mario may be the lowest ranked character. I noticed something similar with Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle; the rest of the cast outshined Mario in utility and function. In both games Mario is required so it’s likely a side effect of balancing the game. At least that was my conclusion when I played M+R:KB.
With current equipment he has second highest attack and magic attack (tied with Mallow), but the overall worst defense. Side note: I have everyone equipped with the Work Pants for the +10 attack, so I’m not using the best available in terms of defense.
Although i haven't played the remake
Peach Lazy shell is how i have beaten every end game boss just from how bulky she is and how she can still heal everyone plenty
Well idk I used lazy shell Jynx belt bowser and he carried me a good chunk while dealing actually respectable damage (I basically only upgraded physical on level ups)
I have a counter to lazy shell Mario
He can wear attack scarf and lazy shell making him still decently fast and very tanky plus still pretty strong making him everything at once besides healing
Mallow and Geno are top tier in the end game
Peach is Queen!
I'm curious to if the post game items will change anytning for characters. Mallow's new final weapon giving +10 Magic Attack could make him a much more desirable character
And do what with it? You already beat the game. The final rewards being weapons is braindead.
@@raedien there's still 5 more super bosses after the one with Mallow's final weapon...
@donaldmccabe7366 Yes, five fights where you *maybe* use Mallow's triple-tech to revive the useful party members.
Let me be clear, I rank Mallow much higher than most. Thunderbolt is useful in so many areas beyond the first Act...but trying to argue improved weapons in the post game is good because one character can use it for five fights only highlights what a let down it is. What about the other characters? Oh they get to use it for four fights! Three? Two?
If +10 Magic Atk changed a character meaningfully then we'd see that character slapped with an offensive accessory and have the answers.
Making the entire game easier and adding some gimmick fights to the end is not what this needed.
I bought it, I beat it, I even bought a second copy as a gift for my sister. I'm glad it got made.
But they had decades of feedback to know the game could use more difficulty, not less.
All the QoL improvements are great...but they'd mean even more if there was a hard mode that actually made you have to try.
One of my favorite games of all time but I can't recommend the remake to people who have already played the original. Not for $60+. If you haven't played it before, amazing, easy pick up. Otherwise don't bother.
@raedien couldn’t agree more. I’m hoping it ends up being possible to mod in higher/more granular difficulty levels like what can be done with the Xenoblades (XB3 in particular is SUCH a better game when you can pump up the difficulty)
Bowser
Early game, when you first get him, he's the best. After Bean Valley, he's the worst. But in the Post-Game, once you beat the Punchinello rematch, he becomes THE strongest attacker in the game, bar none. Fantastic Jinx Belt user. Heel Shell is garbage, so you can freely give him Work Pants for +10 Attack and lose virtually nothing. Build him all Attack on Lvl Ups for 292 Attack with all equipment and still has 219 HP.
_(I like doing 2 levels of HP so he has 290 Attack, 225 HP)_
I know people love a faithful remake, but I wish they added more, honestly. It would have been cool if we could have like King Boo and Yoshi as playable characters and if we could switch who we played with on the map with the rest of the team following. Hopefully they implement more creativity in the 2nd one, if there is one.
ROSALINA. All I wanted was Rosalina.
@@tantacles oh she would have been great as well! They have so much potential!
S+ Tier: Bowser - Best single heavy hitter, he does an INSANE amount of damage with Super Suit along with Troopa Medal. His entire level up setup is just entirely ALL PHYSICAL ONLY. There is no reason to use his special moves, please do not put points in magic, why even consider spending flowers on him? lol
S Tier: Geno - Pretty much all-around, overall a better Mario.
A Tier: Peach - Instant Revive (LOUDEST SOUND EFFECT RECORDED IN GAMING HISTORY BY THE WAY), decent with frying pan, OP with Spell Swap in SNES, but can't do that here, so she's pretty much just a group hugger with her lazy shell (Ignores a lot and can safely get in revives and team specials).
A- Tier: Mallow - Good AoE magic damage, best (and only, unless you consider peach one...) mage in the game. 10HP 20 magic level up spread, good with flower saver.
B Tier: Mario - Too bad you're stuck with him, but he's alright. Attack Scarf, Lazy Shell. If you can casually get 100 super jumps in a row with troopa medal, you can essentially one shot 3D culex.
Is that Roses of May in the back ground from final fantasy 9? If so 🫡
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Bowser with Wonder Chomp is and the changes of the remake really buff him. He's better than in the original, but he's still delegated to attack only bot.
He hits solid though, since you can put every single bonus on level up on attack. He's still weak to magic, but at level 30 he can tank, especially with super block being easy in the remake.
He was meh now he's solid.
Geno and Peach are still the optimal setup, but Bowser/Mallow Triple move is the best damage dealing triple move in the game
My boy looks, talks, and sounds just like Jerry Seinfeld
What is the DEAL with peach?
The lazy shell and rare scarf belong to Peach. That's just the way it goes.
Honestly if we could swap out Mario, I'd make a team of Bowser, Peach and Geno!
Mario, Mallow, and Geno with a pure hp/physcial build is broken. You just can't die.
I’m wondering anyone knows whether Jinx Belt is better than Quartz Charm or vice versa? I usually have one on bowser and the other on Geno if I’m not using any status protecting accessories.
Tbh if you opt for damage you can just ignore peach. Culex can be done quickly without peach but yes if you dont optimize damage and struggle to perfect your inputs then you need a healer like peach. Most people opt to tank through culex with peach but really i just spammed mallows star spell, marios jumps and bowsers tripple move to finish the fight quickly
Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Exeot Mallow. Mallow is the mascot.
His strength is that he’s very fluffy and also a beautiful tadpole
@tantacles I used him for as much of the game as I could. With the 1/2 flower accessory he can lightning bolt or rain for 1fp and aoe down a third of the game. Lightning also stunned or something a few guys in this game.
@@tantacles Mallow was my favorite video game character growing up
I think Mallow should be in a better position, his first skill is very useful because does good aoe damage and cost just 2 fp, psycopath also is very important to get 100%, also have good aoe of ice and star fall is very powerful. Healing is also useful, it is nice have a good attacker that can also heal in some cases, because peach can heals but her attacks are very bad. I think that should be A. With a bit more hp and def is a S.
Mallow is broken, i put the safety ring on mallow, mallow is S. And mallow thunderbolt only cost 2 FP
Mario may be just a damage dealer but he's also the best damage dealer in the game. Especially if you can get the attack scarf, which isn't as hard to do in the remake as it was in the original. I wouldn't swap out Mario even if I could.
My list would be like this.
S+: Peach(lazy shell)
S: Peach Mario
A: Geno
B: Bowser Mallow
F: Anyone besides Peach with the lazy shell.
I think Mallow deserves to be up in S. "he takes hits poorly' doesn't bring down the fact that
A: Mallow can perfect block things
B: Every single skill he has nukes the enemy for monster damage
C: He can heal with the best of them
I love Peach but 90% of the game it's just Group Hug and that's it. She's vastly overhyped.
The problem is that group hug actually IS that powerful and no one else can do it.
@tantacles
I agree it's useful, but with the mid-battle swapping Peach just doesn't feel as needed anymore. You said yourself you usually only have 1 injured person only so in rare cases she can come out. I'd rather Mallow nuke things other then have peach heal papercuts waiting for my entire party to take damage for group hug to be actually useful
I think the challenge run I’m editing now might convince you.
I especially enjoy your ranking people with & without the lazy shell armor. so far in my play through i haven't been impressed with the armor and the weapon has been meh honestly. i switched it out for the ultra hammer when i got it.
Why though? The lazy shell weapon is way better than the ultra hammer, it has significantly higher attack.
@@tessaPMpro the lazy shell weapon is too random in its damage dealing for me
@@neoshadowdukeofgames8223 But did it deal on average more than the Ultra Hammer then?
@@Megaman-2407 i'd say no
Without peach with lazy shell i wouldn't be able to beat culex 3D
I gotta get this damn remake
YES
I run Mario, peach, geno in that order and only buff the physical attacks. I can beat culex in a few turns
Is it possible to beat FFV without using the job system?
Huh did they nerf the accessory with Mario where you can get obsurd stats if you're really good at super jumping or something
If you mean the super suit. I dont think they changed anything with it.
He's talking about the attack scarf, which is exclusive to Mario
I just gave Peach the Frying Pan, Super Suit & Quartz Charm aaaaaaaand... game's gone.
Peach is always broken in the mario games 😂😂
I didn't see the Sunken Ship. Does the Safety Ring still exist? Does it negate elemental damage still?
It does still exist, but it does not do anything in regards to elementaldamage like the original. It is the Safety Badge that protects from OHKOs as well. Still a great item to give Peach if not using Lazy Shell strats.
@@mistahl5350 oh, okay! Sad they nerfed it though.
The safety ring does exist in the sunken ship! The safety ring still protects against OHKO’s and all status effects.
It also markedly reduces but does not eliminate elemental damage. It’s only been a tiny bit nerfed.
@mistahl5350 is wrong.
@@tantacles whew! I need to get in vanilla now. I had no idea it existed until I saw your solo runs.
I honestly thought they were gonna nerf geno boost + peach but they didn’t that much…
So everyone is worse with the Lazy Shell.
Except maybe peach?
"Worse" as in they just become a Item Bot most of the time but in exchange they basically become invincible
What’s the lazy shell?
Mallow is good until Bowser's Keep, honestly. All of the enemies in the Sunken Ship, including the boss, are weak to Thunder, and Mallow's Shocker will outdamage anything. Ditto with Speardovich. Every enemy in the volcano is weak to ice except one, which is weak to Thunder. Axem Black, the second target after Pink, is also weak to Thunder. Dodo also requires one character to fight him alone, and Mallow, thanks to HP Rain, actually does that really well since Dodo's only weakness is Fire, and Dodo can't grab Mario.
Mario is top tier if you can do 100 super jumps. His damage ceiling is unmatched.
That’s a big if!
But if you can do 100 super jumps and get the super suit, everyone is broken and basically invincible, so it’s kind of not really that important
You don't even need 100 super jumps. Just max out his normal jump and it becomes the strongest single target special by far
@@tantacles the attack scarf you get with 30 jumps is already pretty strong, buffing every stat he has. Also, only mario can use the super suit. He has the best weapon, armor and accessory in the game.
Does this game really need a tier list? It’s one of those easy RPGs where you can just use whoever you feel like using and you’ll be fine 🤷♂️
I just want to make fun videos about the game, bro. Don’t take it too seriously.
@@tantacles Oo sick, can you make a tier list for ff9 next? Don’t forget to include Marcus, blank, cinna and Beatrix
Already did it! But not for combat purposes
Post game , it matters more with regards to team composition and equipment .
@@Evilj82 really doesn’t though. Only halfway challenging post game fight was punchinello, and only because you had to get perfect timing to flip his bombs where perfect timing was never necessary for anything beforehand