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ALL MY TAURUS OWNERS TAP IN! #TaurusActivity
I carry a Taurus G3 but I have the G3c also. The G3c is snappy but it has been reliable for a budget gun. I don’t rely on double strike.. Always tap/rack.
Boyy I remember you posted ur first video about the g3 ever since then I been wanting to see it in Mr. Ghg hands
G3 owner here. I love my G3 it’s my edc. I have had no issues. Definitely a starter gun if you are on a budget.
Bro you done did the G2C and G3C you must now do their top models now the GX4 and the G3 Tactical. I need a review with all y’all.
I recently picked up the G3c n I gotta say it was a hard choice between the gx4 and the g3c but overall the reason I chose G3c was because it has a light/laser rail, manual safety, uses glock sights,takes down just like a glock, came with 3 mags,has restrike capability and lastly held one more round then the gx4 all of these features the gx4 didn’t have so I went with the G3c 💪🏾
Edit: Forgot to mention no failures after about 300+ rds
i got the G3X! 200 rounds a session going atleast 1 or 2 times a week and it still holds up after a few months of ownin it! deff a good gun to have!!
I have over 2000 rounds through my G3C and it had never gave me a single problem. Definitely trust it with my life if it came down to it 👍🏽
did you have any issue with hollow points?
5000+ 5 different ammos 500 rounds hollow point ( ever 6 months I fire off my carry ammo and replace it) no problems, no jams, no stove pipe, 1 light strike double action fired round. DA makes for easy dry fire practice. Love the G3c so much I bought 3 of them
@@langreiper3327 Wow! I need to get me this gun too. Which brand of hollow point did you buy?
@@MusicLuv80Hornady American Gunner XTP
@@langreiper3327 thank you
Bought mine because of the price and I’m about 2000 rounds in and she ain’t let me down yet, perfect for IWB carry.
have you had any issue with hollow points?
Ghg wife just had a HIGHPOINT as a self defense in yesterdays video she actually said it’s reliable now he acting like that Taurus not good
I’m pretty sure that was just content for the video 🤣
It was a joke
Haha I want a high point just to say I have one... idk about carry that brick
They was trolling but the high points is reliable they're just ugly as f*** LOL the Taurus is reliable too my girl got a g2c and it ain't never gave her a problem except the trigger sucks
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This was my first firearm. It’s very practical. No jams in 2500 rounds. That initial trigger take up is long but after that reset it’s all easy follow up shots
What hp did you run?
@@malwick6912 hornady critical defense
have you had any issue with hollow points though?
My first pistol was the G2C with the stainless slide. I changed the sights to fiber optic (green front, red rear) and I changed the recoil spring and guide rod to stainless. I also threw a olight pl mini valkyrie on there as well. The light and recoil spring seems to have helped the recoil significantly. It probably doesn't hurt that my grip is much better now than when I first got it..
600ish rounds thru it flawlessly.
I am currently a Taurus gun lover and fan. I will be honest, they do snap a bit but I love mine which I have 2 G2Cs, a G3C T.O.R.O. with red dot site, a G3, and a GX4.
That's right I love my taurus G3c and my G2c
I upgraded my guide rod. Shoots way better
Kokid03 upgrade the recoil spring and the striker catcher and it'll feel a lot better.
(Get rid of the plastic parts in the slide)
did they had any issue with hollow points?
No. Not at all
I couldnt wait for you guys to rate this pistol. Watching you guys made me go out to grab my first pistol & i grabbed a taurus g3c. The gun never jams has a great grip all around is great for the pricetag, but somehow still gets hate. However only downfall is the take up in the trigger.
Got a short video on my channel of it. The g2 & g3 the new hood gun😭
I got one too black, stay safe
They’re great guns bro and very reliable.. People just belittle other guns because it’s not a Glock or other fancy manufacturer.. I have a high point I’ve had a colt I got glocks I’ve had a Taurus G2C I’ve had smith and wessons also and more.. G3C and G2C are great guns.. Sure they’re budget but they work and are very reliable.. I’m not throwing shade but If you know it’s a great gun don’t let others thats been into guns for a couple years dictate what u carry or have for self defense if u know it’s reliable.. And if you really feel sour about it bro go out and buy a glock or FN.. Caniks are great too.. There are ALOT of manufacturers that put out quality products for a good price ALTHOUGH I AM A GLOCK FAN BOY MYSLEF😂 ABOVE ALL EXERCISE YOUR 2nd Amendment Rights🇺🇸🇺🇸
And the trigger u have is called a duty trigger.. You want to have a little take up to be able to think if u should between shots.. In court they’ll question why u have a 1lb trigger and why u didn’t hesitate too shoot..
Enjoy using fmj and crit defense only 🤣🤣🤣 doodoo sidearm/edc
I have the Taurus PT 111, G2C, G3 and G3C. I haven't had any issues with either. Those compacts are snappy as hell but they are dependable
Love the fact that y’all young, black, respectful and safe, keep up the content bro!!!!✊🏾
Tf being black gotta do with it
Yea hopefully they ain’t the blm rioting type of bp
Chris, GHG, and Rambo Jay speaking on a budget friendly pistol for first time owners, their opinions hold weight 🔥😁
It's always a good time training with your brothers. Stay blessed guys one love from beautiful Trinidad and Tobago ❤ 🇹🇹.
I used to rotate between carrying an M&P Shield and a Glock 19 for years, and they covered my CCW bases pretty well. But I bought a G3c because it was just too good of a deal to pass up. I'm not going to lie -- it had some cosmetic issues, but nothing that warranted me sending it back. It is a perfect size for carry. A little thicker than the Shield, but much smaller than the 19, with a great capacity. It is reliable and produces excellent groups. It has quickly become my favorite carry gun, and I'm strapping it on my hip more than anything else. I plan on getting a second one. High value!
I been a new gun owner for a year.. I was looking at buying a Glock as my first pistol. I was also was looking at the Springfield Hellcat. But I realized that I didn't want a $500-600 pistol as my first. I done research on Taurus pistols so I bought the G2c as my first. I got the G3c as well. I like them both and haven't had any problems with either. Now that I got the feel of them, I do plan on buying a Glock 43x as my next pistol.
I went ahead and got the Glock 19 as my first gun. I wanted a Canik but when academy had the Glock for $60 off I said why not. #blackfriday
I get what he was trying to say about the trigger but like ghg proved it’s pointless to keep pulling the trigger on a bad round. Tap, rack, bang 💥 Keep it up fellas ✊🏾
Tap, rack is the way to go. I love restrike but that shit scares me💀 what happens if it’s a squib round? Tap rack is safe and effective 😂
PT111 G2C bought 6yrs ago.Only changed guide rod to lakeline stainless steel. 1,000+ rnds no problems.
In my opinion the g3c is a great budget gun for your first gun. However I did later pick up a hellcat. I’m finding myself carrying this more often lately though. I did install a stainless steel guide rod from lakeline and have the steel striker guide to get put in that should improve the trigger a bit more. Next thing after that I’ll probably get some tritium sights for it. It’s a decent gun and for what you pay is hard to beat imo.
Never shot the G3C, but I have shot the G3. Its a good gun for the price, especially if its your first gun or you're on a budget. I'd buy this over the Hi-Point. I have mixed feelings about the double strike capabilities. I'd rather encourage people to tap/rack since most guns function that way. Like you said in the video, you don't wanna rely on that in the heat of the moment. I'm pretty sure this one can take Glock sights so those are easy to upgrade, but I'm not sure about the other parts. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for & I don't think anyone is expecting Glock level aftermarket support on a $250 gun.
Well said
Correct.excellent comment
I love the restrike ability. But for dry fire practice. I practice in my house all the time using the restrike capability.
@@kylejohnson1308 That’s cool & all, but what about when you switch to a firearm that doesn’t have it? You have to retrain your mind.
@@stephenstaygold I wouldn't use that if I had a jam. I just use it for the dry fire practice so it's no prob.
i got the G3X n its super reliable no jams each range visit be around 200+ rounds of federal and still firing flawlessly! its gonna be my edc once my holster get here today!
My First Purchase Was An G2C, Yes The Trigger Isn’t As Good But Overall Its A Fun Beginner Gun
Good video!! Interested in seeing you guys run some drills w it. Taurus G2c is still my edc.
G3c get a stainless steel recoil spring ,if u have bigger hands get a grip sleeve and or 17 round extended mag henning group has a +3 extension for the 17 round mag u can also get a ported barrel for it , you have to make a g3c the way you want it if u want it to shine
This was my first pistol I bought when I turned 21 was a tarus g3c and I have put countless rounds through it since I got it and I recommend it for people wanting their first pistol
I love the g series in the Taurus I have put more than a thousand rounds through mine and no jams or hiccups of course you have to clean it more than a Glock but it is really reliable for its price Taurus is stepping their game up
G2C is a great gun. If you used to Glocks, the G2C is snappy. I love my Glock and love my G2C, especially once I changed the trigger
Walked into a local otudoor store dressed in my security uniform and asked for this gun, the guy brings out the 3GC WITHOUT the thumb safety. I don't know if this one differs wildly from the one you featured, but when compared to the G2C, the trigger is better - A- yes it has a long break, but it resets short and subsequent pulls are nice and tight without as much travel. Love this little gun!
Carried g2c for a year, countless rounds at the range without fail. Started carrying a g3c and neglected it and let it sit for a year and start to get rusty. Just surface rust, but the thing was NEGLECTED. I took it out and it jammed on the first shot. Dropped the mag and worked the rack a bunch right quick, then went back to shooting. No failures. Things are very reliable, I took it home and cleaned it up well since.
I did upgrade the trigger though. Never loved the one that came in it. That long take up on the pull drove me nuts. Reset was wonderful. You did get used to setting your finger on that sweet spot when taking up the slack, but I just didn't like it.
I’m a new gun owner…my first gun is the Glock 45 gen 5. And I bought the M&P m.20 4.5 inch 10mm after that… now I like the 10mm caliber more than the 9mm caliber.
It's definitely snappy at first. After learning how to properly place hands/thumb and trigger finger position it becomes more easier to control. A bigger note is to replace the guide rod with a good quality stainless steel one and replace the striker. I'm in $400 total after upgrades and can honestly say the g3c performes better than a 43x
3200rds through my g3c , 2000 of em without cleaning it. never had any issues. even when i put a preban p226 mag in it. traded it + $150 for a canik tp9 sfx mete. but it was very reliable. idk what people talk about .
only issue it had was the front sight coming loose and thats because i accidentally stripped the set screw.
but im in Massachusetts, so u can only get glocks private sale and they're heavily taxed same glocks people are getting for $450-550 we gotta spend $650+ for the most part unless u find someone who really needs money.
I have the canik tp9 elite sc
My experience with the Taurus is that there is nothing special about it, but it gets the job done and can take a good beating. Good gun for 250 but it’s not going to replace any of the other flagship pistols.
U gotta do one on the G3 I have one to me the full size guns in the G series are top tier definitely the budget glock great quality for the price
I have a G3C. It’s 100 percent reliable. No failures. I think the Taurus G series is a good gun at a decent price. I’ve owned several firearms including a Glock 19 gen 5 with ameriglo night sights. I think my Ruger security 9 had a much better trigger. But if I was a first time gun owner & needed a dependable firearm for around $300 I wouldn’t hesitate with the G3c.
Did your front sight wiggle itself loose?
I own a G2 G2C and a full size G3, the compact sizes are snappy but the full size feels better and the recoil is lighter. Best budget guns imo Also try the GX4
Idk, I own a G3C Toro and I just went shooting last week with two friends. Mine was the only pistol that didn’t have a malfunction, they had Glock and some brand ive never heard of. I’m a new gun owner and up til that point I had only shot 500 rounds with it. It is still very much in its break in period. When I first got it, it had the same problem all Taurus G3C have which was holo’s wouldn’t chamber and cycle. That got solved about 300 rounds in with fmj’s, just had to get that barrel and extractor polished. I did upgrade my plastic striker fire guide to a steel one and replaced my recoil spring as well. All together it was $400. Played around at 75 yards away with just irons and hit 9/10 times! It does have a kick but if you’re hitting your target first shot, your reset becomes less important.
That’s my edc right now until
My Glock 26 gets here hasn’t done me wrong and I love how it shoots new subscriber btw and got the notifications on 💪🏽
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Pressure as always!! 🫡💯
In my opinion, I’ve shot the Taurus G3 and the g19 at the same time. I didn’t see a difference. I carry a Taurus G3 and have no jams when I do train. Only bad thing I can say about Taurus is the cheap sights. Also my G3 isn’t snappy. It doesn’t have much recoil in my opinion
G3c kicks a lot more than a g3
I'd like to see them try this again after putting in a Lakeline recoil spring. Way less snappy.
Just got one - thanks for the review !! You helped in my Decision to purchase it
Mine 2022 edition, G3C Fully upgraded, striker guild slide, recoil barrel spring, red beam, belt clip.
Then I stepped the whole grip and mag base. I carry IWB
I'll bet my life on it.
Not knockin this gun but a good competitor would be the m&p shield for more slim conceal
The G3C actually has a good reputation and it’s the best you will get for $250. The G2C actually brought Taurus back from the dead with its reputation. And although a Highpoint is not bad the G3C is better. And the Highpoint is too heavy to carry. Something is better than nothing. Something could pop off while you are saving. It’s not that snappy it is a light gun but it’s definitely manageable. I think it will suite a new user just find. They can be kitted over time. I personally still have my G2C. If there is surface rust then it just probably was neglected a bit. Cleaning it up and keeping it lubed should take care of that. BTW Kimbers have been known to have some surface rust as well so I think it’s more of a care thing. I have have Glocks as well but to me the Tauruses look better. They are like a crossbreed between Glocks and M&Ps. I still rotate my Taurus in and out because it’s in between the 26 and 19 in size and capacity. So it’s a sweet spot and also has a rail. The grip feels better than a Glock as well. The finish is the weak point and sucks compared to a Glock. Double strike capability is overrated and can be ignored like the safety, just tap and rack anyway. The Glock barrel is also nitrided and the Taurus barrel can easily be coated or treated as well for little and we’re talking half the price of a Glock. Most people I know still have them. They just might not fill the main role. I still see value in having one as a starting point and trading up or repurposing as you can afford. It’s great for a tackle box, to stash, or one you leave in the car. You’re not as afraid lose it. I don’t have all the guns you guys have but I do have 6 Glocks and still use my Taurus. It’s not better and won’t last as long but especially if you practice with it and take care of it. So far I’ve replaced a firing pin on one of my Glocks and nothing on my G2C. I’m sure that’s just the luck of the draw. So far with this I’ve bought once and cried not once. And people I’ve recommended say the same and still own theirs and say the same. All of you guys are gun snobs but Chris seems to be a bit more Reasonable. I am rooting for it and I think it will hold up in testing. Clean and lube it though. Even though it worked without it and you don’t have to with Glocks do it. This is a Glock and M&P bastard child so I think it run it takes little effort to be sure. That’s my book. 😂😂😂
I copped the gx4 toro and put a Lakeline comp barrel in it and it cut the recoil down nicely. 😊
Gx4 is where it’s at
That g3c is the best bang for the buck. It's has features that glocks dont have out rhe box. You can get a g3c toro optic ready, change the trigger and sights, throw a decent red dot on it and be under a stock glock. I'm gonna buy one as a back up/ car gun. But I wouldn't EDC it personally. Their quality control is what's spotty not the actual gun. You hear more about the bad ones which might be one out of 100 but the other 99 people don't make videos on. It has its role. Still Better than a hi-point or a sccy.
I wasn’t a fan of the trigger but would buy one if that’s what my buget allowed.Dope video fellas.
I started with the g2s single stack version of the g2c in 9mm i didnt like it due to capacity then i switched to a g2c 9mm and fell in love with it then i switched to the 40 cal g2c and i aint letting it go at all very reliable gun love the multi safety features because i have kids around me and understand the significance of firearm safety around kids i like the sights but prefer truglo sights its a good budget pistol me personally i dont like how glocks feel in my hand i prefer the psa dagger over the glock anyday
I bought a g2c brand new for 180. Mine did rust from sweating while conceal carrying. Rust can easily be cleaned off with CLP lube.
Chris : “We gone really do some drills wit this “
Feds: * druski voice * “ what do you mean by that 🤨🤔” 😂🤣
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I ended up copping the G2c, Trigger is abysmal (I swapped it with a short stroke and it's slightly better) but it ran over a 1000 rounds through it reliably so I put it into rotation, It's one of the smaller guns I own so it's really easy to carry and forget about, but now after another couple thousand rounds of ammo it started having failure to extract issues, what I found was the extractor gets real gunked up, so I disassembled the extractor cleaned and polished it and it's been working great since. Idk if I trust it enough yet so I been carrying the g19x but once it shoots another 500 or so round reliably again, I'll put it back in rotation.
Can’t lie bro I like my lil gc3 especially for the price. It shoots perfectly to. Thinking bout getting another one. But keep up the good work brudda 👍🏾
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How much you paid ?
Here's my 2 cents. We live in a time and day when you need to get something now. We can't wait months to get something. If you need something, now get the G3C. Once you have your person carry for $250 to $300, then focus on the gloc, yall be safe 🙏
Another thing these are youtubers. You can't believe what they say do your own research. These guy get paid to make videos that are sometimes bias.
Lol this dude’s wrist literally hurts after a couple rounds of 9mm?? 🤦♂️🤣
I Edc a G3c and i love it!! Yes its snappy, but its super reliable. I clean my G3c after ever range session, never had a rust problem. Iv had my G3c for a little over a year now.
I had the G2C for 3 years and never had an issue. I'll trust this gun with my life💯
Taurus has come a long way from 10-12 years ago and the G2C/ G3C are amazing for the price, I got my G2C in OD back in 2019 for 185.00 after rebate through Palmetto state - its been my EDC ever since- new to the channel- loving the attitudes/ content and subscribed!
I carry a modified G3C errday, in these DFW streets and I'd bet my life on it. I carry 15+1 with a spare 15 in my pocket and she's rocking a Burris Fastfire 2 as well as a black nitrided barrel and upgraded stainless steel internals from Lakeline LLC. I even used it for my USCCA Instructor quals and only missed 2 shots at 10yrs cause I was going to fast
Bro you done did the G2C and G3C you must now do their top models now the GX4 and the G3 Tactical. I need a review with all y’all.
The trigger on the G3 series is a double/single action trigger, it's going to be extra spongy. The GX4 is the one to get. I haven't had any issues with mine. I have a G19,Hellcat Pro, 43X MOS, S&W 9mm EZ and the GX4 shoots the best to me. Save for maybe the S&W. I went with the GX4 over the original Hellcat, P365, and others because it has a better trigger IMO.
Gx4 way too damn small
First time gun owner here. I bought a G2c about two months ago ran over 500 rounds so far, no jams or anything for sure It's a good little gun. I do plan on upgrading to a Glock though I'm getting a either a 19 or 43x but I'm leaning more on the 19 Gen 5.
One of the best shooting 9mm I have is a older EAA looks similar to a 1911 I believe it’s called a witness but not positive it’s chrome with black grips. Hammer fire.
Got one for my girl, change the guide rod and recoil spring by lakeline, smoothens out the recoil impulse.
Nah ran 2000 rounds out of my G2C aint no failures same with my G3. Just got my G3C and the trigger is much better. I find this pistol to be VERY RELIABLE!!
Bought the GC3 for my first carry gun, buying the G43x MOS next. Love the Taurus but the G43x fits me better
Love my taurus it’s a good gun ive had it for a few months and haven’t had a single problem no jams or nothing
I have a Taurus and a hipoint they are good guns for the price point. The g³ full size is better. I like my Hi points. Just heavy and less mag capacity. But decent guns. Working up to Sig 320
Gucci Taurus over Gucci Glock. $500 for a Reliable Customizable high capacity CCW. Chris Welcome to the family 🙏🏽💪🏾💪🏾🥂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Brought my G3c and switched out some parts internally and it’s about 1500 rounds now and I love it. Honestly ima get some heat for saying this but glocks just have that box plane look to them and the G3c looks better. And with the upgrades I’d put my G3c up against a Glock any day
I will say, I have the G3C and I like it. Saying that the only issue I had was after 500ish rounds through it my front sight screw snapped, plus side is that the sights are Glock compatible so for the price point I say it is a good gun for carry if you cannot afford something over $500 and need something without having to save up
They’re Glock-compatible sights. Just replace them like all Glock owners replace their stock sights..and done
A Taurus G2C with a 15round pro mag can’t go wrong 💯
I would cop if that’s all I could afford,just would have to practice with it
I have the G3C Toro with the Keep Tinkering trigger. Big difference with the trigger take up and reset.
i had the G2C, and a PT145 Pro, not bad , but defenintly not a Glock. My advice. if your going budget, get the stoeger STR-C. Trigger is better..
I polished the feed ramp on my g3c with a new trigger shoots everything type of 9mm ammo.
I love mine and honestly has less snap than like the Springfield hellcat(bc of weight is my guess)
I have the G3 TORO. Added a new barrel, and other from Lakeline. No regrets. But could have picked up a nice Sig. Or Glock with the same money
He is right. If you’re gonna spend the money on a gun you buy once cry once.
I have had the millennium g2 ive had g2c and i have the g3c now and i have never had a problem with any if them they are good guns i would trust my life with then in a min
Taurus g3c and g3x are my favorite carry guns. My first was a pt111 g2 and it had about 8,000 rounds through it when I sold it for an upgraded g3x.
the g3x is a goated gun u should check mines out
I have the G3TORO and it’s a great weapon shoots and feels great. I know it’s a bigger gun but it’s a good one. Yeah I like the Glock 19 , 17 and the 43x . Great video
I got g3c and gx4 put 2000 round threw them both they both still holding up no jams but I take care of my gun clean and oiled
Me and my wife love Taurus the G3c is great affordable and great for new and old gun owners
I'm not changing my Edc for no one my G3c haven't jammed or had a lite primer strike very reliable an I use a 147 grain jhp for carry
Taurus G3c supposed to be the budget glock killer. The g2c and g3c are very reliable and offer a lifetime warranty, glock only offers a 1 year warranty which is weird
Canik SC Elite over the Taurus if you looking for quality at a low cost.... you don’t have to change the trigger and barrel to make it reliable and accurate.
Maaaaan y’all entertaining as a muhg, Hands down best trio out on GunTube💯💯. Keep up the 🔥 videos
I got the g3c. I love it. I also have the Ruger American. No Glocks in my stock!
You can get a Taurus GX4 for just +/- $300 street price brand new. Plus as of right now Taurus has a $50 rebate. I recommend new shooters go to the range and test out a few options if the range has gun rentals. The GX4 does not have a manual thumb safety if that's a concern. But I recommend that you get comfortable with your firearms anyway, and you will be less concerned with a manual safety.
Ya for the price of $250, you gonna get a reliable, accurate gun, that could save your life. Can’t go wrong there. And in the end you are the weapon, so if you train, you will be fine good.
Lmfao bro said what happened you lost your job? Lmfao ngl I was thinking about buying a G3C for to add to the collection because I found one for $230 at a pawn shop and one at the store for like $260-$270 lol
GHG says buy once cry once I believe that BUT I also believe in the words of Clint Smith "3 is 2 two is 1 and 1 is none" an example is kids I'm in a household of 5 extras of the same guns don't hurt I've had mixed experiences with Taurus loved my revolver but I've become loyal to the hellcat with the hellcat pro magazine "not a pro mag"
G3C is gangsta. It's reliable if you have to put in work and get rid of it. You only out $250. Real talk it's a decent gun and you can have multiple for the car or home or what ever for cheap.
I’ve got a Taurus G3C with 500 rounds so far and never had a problem with it and it’s accurate just got too train with your carry gun
Not bragging but I can afford whatever pistols I want. I have owned Ruger, Smith and wesson, Sig. I've shot several Glocks. But my 2 favorite carry guns are my GX4 and my G3C 👍👍
Ive had mine for about 6 months... Next year getting the Toro slide with the red dot.
When you do reviews get someone that doesn’t have a premeditated bias. Ghg just doesn’t want to like it no matter what. It doesn’t matter about the budget it’s either a good gun or it isn’t.
We have another test coming.. to see if it’s a good gun or not.
I agree with this statement!
Anyone can budget and be patient to afford something you want. However, the G3C does make it possible to get something robust and reliable quicker without breaking the bank. It has a good amount of upgradable hardware and accepts a large spectrum of Glock sights. If you’re able to get your hands on a TORO version, it’s quite an upgrade. It’s a good firearm, is there better? Yes. It gets it done.
My mama always tell me don't worry what they think about the gun it's what you think about the gun 👌
Y’all should try the full size Taurus g3
I see alot of negative comments on the trigger take up, I agree it's a bit long and spongy but it's designed that way for safety reason, you don't want a hot trigger on an EDC with one in the chamber- the odds of blasting your own knee cap increase dramatically, My 19ll has a hot trigger which allows me to shoot with amazing accuracy but there is no way I'd carry that with one in the chamber- that would require a shit ton of training in my opinion- safety first!