[UNBOXING] CYMA CM.009F XM177 E2 - Back to NAM!!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Hi guys, here is our unboxing of the rather lovely XM177 E2 (CM.009F) from our July Taiwan Gun order! Come and take a look at what we thought about it!
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Pheas
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What I've always like about the real carbine was the flash hiders. If I can remember correctly it made the .556 round sound more like the 7.62 round from the AK, thus making a preferred weapon of the frogman and SOG guys in Vietnam
The flash hider and the sound difference it makes is exactly what I love about it! Pheas
Back of the lower receiver is incorrect, it's A2 style rather than A1. However they probably did it for strength so I can't object too much. The butt in the real ones is aluminium but again it's a sensible lower cost substitution. As you say the outline is broadly correct and for most people that's enough for airsoft use. It's really good to see these retro ARs becoming more popular recently.
For such a small channel you create some really great content,keep going!
Thank you! Glad you like what I am doing! I'm growing slowly but surely! Absolutely loving doing it though. Pheas
That's a good buy for the money, motor sounds like the G&P M120 back in the day. Once the front handguards were replaced by some Brownells ones and a repo carry handle scope, I could easily see a blood diamond M4 loadout making a come back.
Nice review Pheas as usual, hopping to see an internal review maybe ?
Keep an eye on the notifications for Friday around 12pm (UK time) for the internal review!! Pheas
I had the old TM like this and some how it made it into the states with the Colt trademarks and my dumb ass sold it, but I sold it to a buddy getting into the sport and he still runs it and if I owned it still it'd be collecting dust so at least it's getting used
Wow. That shows the power and reliability of a TM if it's still going even now. I'm a big believer that if I haven't used it in 6 to 12 months then I sell it on. I'd rather they were being used that gathering dust in my armoury. Especially when I keep getting new stuff all the time ha ha ha. Pheas
So I've got one of these, and if you wanna fit proper handguards, it's possible. I bought some from brownells, and after removing the heat shields and sanding down a bit on the inside of the bottom of one of the handguards, it fit a 7.4 deans lipo perfectly well, no rewiring required.
Hello! By proper do you mean real steel ones? If so thats ace! I bet it really added to the overall look with them fitted. Pheas
@@PheasAirsoft yep, real steel ones fit perfectly. Being meant for the real deal, they come with a metal heat shield you gotta remove, but a set of pliers or even just sticking a screwdriver in there is enough to get it off. It really made it look way better as well.
The product no. for the exact one I bought from brownells is 100004515. Made by a company called Double Star
People calling this an M4 is painful for a nerd such as me! :o) Another nice retro AR from CYMA, I'm very tempted!
Then what is it
I just bought one this morning 🤩
@@PatrickBergensen-kali-yuga2005not an m4
@PatrickBergensen-kali-yuga5002 the military designated it the xm177 during Vietnam it was issued to special forces who asked for a smaller more mobile rifle the muzzle device Changes the sound signature to sounded like a different weapon so the Vietnamese weren't able to identify our gunfire.
@@HeyCharliesBackupwow such great reply. Great info.
the only thing that bothers me is the big handguard that's is the only "non correct" piece i can find on this beauty. Really nice review
In terms of battery capacity its not bad to get a bigger battery in it, but in terms of the look it will probably annoy people. The G&P correct ones seem to be very hard to find in stock. Pheas
Brownells have carbine handguards that drop straight in if you use a slim battery. There’s some other issues with the externals but nothing major.
Honestly I like the big handgaurd because it allows me to use it in both a Vietnam kit and a Middle East kit because I’m a poor lol
Just got a new HK416 built and running smoothly... but now I wan one of these and make it a Gordon carbine lookalike DMR
Tbh this looks more like a car 15 than an xm177, not a complaint really as it does give off some of those blood diamond carbine vibes
Once again comments pheas said and it's TRUE there was in the vietnam war a carbine the car 15 another version of it had this type muzzle to sound like a ak47
I absolutely love the XM177 replicas. I have this one as well as the EMG Helios/CYMA/Cybergun and the OG G&P model with Colt trades. If I'm running a Nam loadout then this is the platform I would choose over the XM16E1, M16A1, or M60.
Which one do you recommend?
@@deejayxela555 The G&P Colt XM177E2 is my favorite Nam replica by far. They aren't easy to get anymore though but the Cyma OEM/EMG XMs are trash internally. I have had 3 since they came to market and all 3 had issues.
@@Saphy_Bagel You just saved me 200 bucks, thanks!
@@deejayxela555 The Classic Army XM177 is legit as well. It doesn't have the Colt trades but it can hop .32s well over 200ft and it shoots perfect 390-400fps/ 1.5 joules for field skirmishes. ASGI and Evike both have them in stock I think.
@@Saphy_Bagel Im based in Europe so I will see what I can do... If not I will "just" modify a TM ngrs or buy a kit for the TM MWS.
I have this gun and the only bad thing about it is the Handguard is it supposed to be smaller which anybody who even brings that up it’s kind of just nitpick at that point I think the only reason I did that was to add battery space
I would get this and make a Black Hawk Down, Delta inspired built
And I would watch your video about your build!! Good shout on it! I love a black hawk down delta build. Pheas
as soon as i see back to nam in the title i think of battlefield bad company 2's theme. Keep up the amazing work pheas cant wait for the disassembly later this week. When the CM.508 is released onto taiwan gun could you possibly do an unboxing of it since it looks like a good piece of kit.
I love the Bad Company games, they were ace! I will have a look at the cm.508 and add it to my list. Pheas
I love the story to bad company two I love how you could find an MG-42 on one of the missions and how you can find other guns.
Awesome review, and a nice gun, I own 3 Cymas, 2 AKs an the Platinum SR-25. Could you review the new Cyma CM007?
Hiya, glad you liked the video! I will add the cm.007 to the list and get one in when I can! Pheas
People say just buy a G&G M4 or a Specna but they dont make the XM177. Converting the previous 2 would be hard and expensive. Would you say Cyma M4s are bad ?
Hello! I think the cyma m4's, from my experience, are better by a lot than the G&G stuff. Had rafts of issues with G&Gs in the past, comparatively almost no issues from / with cyma ones. Pheas
For the range test I’d say have a camera on a target instead of a POV camera because it’s hard to see the range and accuracy from your POV shot
Hiya. Thanks for the feedback, I have since swapped to shooting at night using tracers to see the range of the bbs (sort of) I am currently working on getting some land to have a proper range for the videos. Pheas
vietnam, vietnam you said vietnam again one of my year of birth cheers mate 🖤💛💖
Love the noise it makes its amazing :D .Lovely review as always mate!! :D
I do like the 20 round mags, they do look cool in the mag well! I am not entirely sure why this comes with the traditional long mag and not the short like the M16. Pheas
@@PheasAirsoft Well at least they sell the mid cap versions at a reasonable price :) .I hope they will sell m249 box mags at Tg's as well, I can't get my hands on a fairly priced one lately . The m249 looks sad and less chonky without the box mag :( .
Great video, excited fot the next order!
By any chance are you able to put a weaver mount on top of the carrying handle in order to use an optic? If not how would I go about doing that? Thank you!
Hello, sorry for the late reply. I managed to fit one of these www.amazon.co.uk/ToopMount-Tactical-Aluminum-Picatinny-Airsoft/dp/B088NH2P5G it was perfect. Pheas
Reserved for the ak’s 😭 I can tell u like that m4 pheas it is very nice tho 👌🏻
that's not exactly an M4...
I guess ive got the E1 version and i brought the short 20 round mags
Hi bud how do you get the battery wires back together after you have taken the front out i guess ita the short wire first?
A wonderful comment.
Love the video mate. Could you review the cm.060 its the p90. Looking to find really small smg with 330 fpd
Glad you like the video! I have had a few people request the p90 and although it's not my cup of tea I can see the allure of it. I'll add it to my list and try and get one asap. Pheas
@@PheasAirsoft if you dont want to keep the p90 after the review I will keep hold of it for you ;)
@@spartandylan98 happy to sell it on to you afterwards.
@@PheasAirsoft really? great keep in touch i would buy it
Loving the nam guns tho 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
The Alan key is for winding the high cap mag it should of come with buddy
Hiya! It wasnt one of those types of high caps in this that has the winding hole in the side. But I appreciate the suggestion! Pheas
Pov: The bushes start speaking Vietnamese
Pov: you are looking for a large diamond in Sierra Leone and are being chased by mercenaries
I'm looking to buy my first gun, I'm considering a G&G Raider because everyone seems to think they're the best. However, I've looked at Taiwan Gun and they've got so many Cymas and at great prices too. I'm wondering if you think there's a viable alternative (or even a better) M4 gun by Cyma that you'd recommend?
The 097 is super nice!
Hiya, as others have commented the Cm.513 or 506 are excellent and soooo cheap, meaning so much more money for accessories, batteries, mags, ammo and so on. As its so cheap it makes it a great platform to build on and over time customise and improve. If you do want to spend a bit more then the 621 is excellent with plastic (but even better quality plastic) externals and a mosfet and tight bore barrel and quick change spring. The CYMA platinum range is outstanding and worth the money. For me, especially the newer stuff, the CYMA stuff is exceptional and will keep up with the G&G stuff. I have a slightly marred view of G&G as in my long airsoft past I have had a few G&G aegs and always had loads of issues, I hear constantly good things about them now, but the damage has been done for me and tend to avoid G&G if I can. Hope that has been helpful! Pheas
@@PheasAirsoft thank you very much, I'm taking your advice and making my first purchase. Love your channel, keep it up, learning loads and really enjoying the unboxings.
Hi again Pheas! Quick question, what is battery is best for this gun? I cannot decide, I want one that would last without needing to change the batteries mid game etc thanks pal.
Hiya. You are sort of limited to very short stubbies in this (if you want to keep the stock as is) so an 1100 or 1200 7.4v stubby battery might be the best you can hope to get unfortunately. I find I can run one to lunch time and then change at lunch for another and be good all day. Pheas
Hey, what battery do you recommend when used with a brownell’s skinny handguard?
Great review ! Will you be getting the KWA ronin 47?
Hiya, Glad you liked it. I have got a Ronin 47 on order! Can't wait to get hold of mine! It won't be everyone's cup of tea but I love it, looks really nice! Pheas
Song at the end rips !
Thank you! I cant take credit, the Tekno Axe is where it is from : ruclips.net/channel/UCtgf00GvfFQVsYBA7V7RwUw
Because of this video I decided to buy it, do you know if the Evike one comes with a mosfet or with the better motor?
Glad I could help you make the decision! From what I am aware of, it should be the identical one to this! "Should" being the main word there. Let me know when it arrives if its correct. Pheas
Hi Pheas, do Cyma do a non mosfet version? Just trying to identify a rifle as it doesn’t say mosfet and was skeptical
Hello, I am not aware of a mosfet version, but I know some companies selling it do seem to forget to mention that its in there. Pheas
ight sold. buying one now
Good Choice! I was impressed with it! Pheas
Great rifle, is it possible if you can put a greanade launcher?
Hiya! It should be fine to take a normally mounting M203, they look awesome with them fitted! pHEAS
My main primary uses a JST plug... but you know HPA life
I'll have to do a hpa build at some point just to see what all the buzz is about! Just not sure about the cannister on my back and really don't like the canister stock I've seen. But we have to make do! Was yours expensive to build? Pheas
@@PheasAirsoft I sold a HPA G&G Top Tech and did a DSG build with a Titan and all that jazz and it didn't compare to HPA wasnt even close so I bought my Krytac PDWM and put a Wolverine Reaper Gen2 Spartan because the Spartan trigger board is programmable... if you decide to do a HPA build see if Amped Airsoft ships to you, they have Player Packages that come with everything like your tank, line HPA kit ect. so you don't have to buy everything separate and it's way cheaper I spent $400 on mine and I like Wolverine products better than Polarstar and the Reaper is super quiet
@@PheasAirsoft also are you still gonna do the fan build thing and if so what's the EMail address
@@isaacshively6705 I am changing the theme slightly (posting on social media later today about it) but the email is pheasairsoftyt@gmail.com
Thank you for the information about HPA I will start to build up my funds to do one as a build!
Pheas
Can you make this thing fire 3 round burst because of the mosfet?
Hello! You will need to swap out the mosfet to a programmable one to be able to do 3 round burst! Pheas
whered you buy? on evike says it doesnt come with a battery
Hiya. I got mine from Taiwan gun in Europe. Most of the cyma stuff from there comes with a battery. I would check with evike first as it might do but they have mis listed it. Pheas
Question will a 12v nihm fit in the hand guard, butterfly, and work ok
I would say yes, but it will be a very snug fit in there. Should be just enough room for it I think. Pheas
So what should you give it like a 10/10
I would say around 9/10 as the mosfet... if it was programmable, would take it to the 10! Pheas
Do you think running an 11.1 titan power battery in this is a good idea for the long run?
Hello! On the newer mosfet version you will be fine to do so! Pheas
@@PheasAirsoft great! Thanks for the info! I just got mine but all my batteries are tamiya so I’m buying a deans one. That’s why I haven’t been able to tell you if my new gun from evike has a mosfet
Do these suffer with barrel wobble like the early tm guns?
Hiya, it is very very solid and if there is wobbly it will be the tiniest amount, its all metal, so wont have the plastic wobbly of those old plastic fantastic TM ones ha ha. Pheas
Which gun do you think is better? This one or the CM.009C?
Hiya. Internally they are identical other than barrel length. The C had a better space for battery but that also makes it longer to shoulder. For me personally, I like the more compact feel of this F version. I feel it sits a bit better, but alot of it comes down to personal preference I think. I know that's really on the fence but it's a hard choice. If you dont mind the longer length then the C is great, if you want adjustability then the F is better. Pheas.
@@PheasAirsoft thank you
Can this gun handle a 11.1 for long periods of time
Hiya. It will be a bit of pot luck. Alot of the first ones that came out with mosfet seem to have blown whilst using an 11.1v lipo or 9.6v nihm. But others who have got one recently are not having the same issues so I would have thought there was issues in an earlier batch. The gearbox itself will hold up with the 11.1 ok, but like anything it is mechanical and a failure will happen eventually. Hope that helps! Pheas
Крутая пушка
благодарю вас! Pheas
When you chose the downgrade on Taiwangun was this the medium downgrade ?
Hiya, there wasn't an actual option for this one for the downgrade. So I used the order comments box to ask for a max of 350 FPS and they sorted the rest! Pheas
Appreciate it thank you keep up the great content man
Does the muzzle break come off
Hello! Yes it does, There is a small grub screw on the underside of it (by the front sight) remove that then the muzzle break unscrews counter clockwise. Pheas
If I live in the us does it come with an orange tip? I sorta want it to
Hello! I dont think it does if you order from Taiwan Gun, but if you order it in country I think it will do. Pheas
What about evike ??
Anyone know what the difference between the E and F is? E seems more grey. Looking for a Vietnam version.
Hiya. They are both vietnam models, but one is the XM177 E2 which was out in later war while the E1 was an earlier model. So the CM.009F (the one from this video) is the E2 version. In the Airsoft one the main difference is the very front, slight change in barrel length. If you are in the UK I have this one for sale. Pheas
Pheas Airsoft thanks. I’m not. 😊
@@Lurbakke100 no probs. Was worth a shot ha ha. I hope the rest of the info was helpful though. Pheas
Pheas Airsoft it definitely was. 👍
what is the difference btw 009F and 009D?
Hello! Internally they are the same gun, identical, but externally the D model has a longer out barrel and thats it. Pheas
Any recommendations for a M4 variant for a starter gun under £140?
They have a sale at gunfire right now. They have a few Specna for just a tad more, those are nice.
All of the Cyma stuff is pretty good
Hiya, if you have UKARA then there are soooo many choices! If you want M4 and it to be a starter, then I would look at cm.506 or similar and save loads of money for batteries and mags and other bits and pieces. If you want to uprate a little then the 621 or something similar will be excellent and has a mosfet and a tight bore barrel and just feels a tad nicer. But the 506 or the 513 are soo good out of the box they make excellent platforms to build on! Pheas
I might buy one to make a 723
I would love to see pics of it if you do! Pheas
@@PheasAirsoft gotta do it for that Mogadishu delta load out
What mags can I use for this?
Hello! You can use just about any airsoft AR type mags for it. I have found that the CYMA, JG, TM, MAG and Classic army mags have all fit and fed. The battle axe ones also fit but were a little tight fit. Pheas
Doesn't the XM177 have the slim car-15 handguard? This seems to have the fat double heat shield M4 handguard
It does have the wrong handguards on it. Its got the M4A1 style instead of the correct slim ones. G&P do the slim ones but they can be hard to find in stock. Pheas
Is this electric?
Hello! Yes it is. Pheas
It is electric blowback or not ?
Great review by the way 😉👌🏻
Glad you liked it! It is not blowback, just a standard AEG. Pheas
Pretty sure you meant back to afghanistan
Since in vietnam the M16 was the gun used, not the M4 carbine
But this is not the M4A1. This is the XM177, that was used by special forces in Vietnam.
This was the Seal Teams weapon
Hm yes tyty for the info
Wrong handguards
Overall it's a good gun, but it's not worth the price. So unless you want to reanact a Vietnam War or Black Hawk Down setting, or want to feel like a spy in a 90's action movie, an M4A1 would be a better gun at a better price.
Hello! That is the point of this model though, that it gives a cheaper option into NAM / 90s action / black hawk loadouts, internally its pretty much identical to the platinum range, so offers a good internal base, but modern looks would need to be found elsewhere as you said. Just depends on what people are looking for I suppose. Pheas
Barrel diameter has no affect on range please please learn what you are talking about before doing reviews or just stick to unboxing videos
It does in airsoft
Will original xm177 hand guards work to put on?
Hello! I believe they will fit, might need a little modding, but I am sure someone said they bought real ones and they got them to fit. Pheas