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I Hope he is redeemed cuz I l9ve varion being a goofy nerdy guy myself I relate to him a lot and it really made me sad when he went bad and became ur run of the mill vengeance brat dung move disney lol 😂
I really want to know the full story of the Cinderella's mother and all the Disney mother's from from Disney princesses I want to know everything about them
Varian better get redeemed! You did kinda leave out the part where Varian had to go into hiding due to the rumor of him attacking Rapunzel(which was false, he was only asking for help), it's both Rapunzel and Varian's fault for what happened to their Friendship. Since if Rapunzel had went to see Varian after the storm, apologized and explained herself Varian would've been more forgiving and willing to let her help. In the Alchemist returns, we do see Varian feel guilty about lying, manipulating Rapunzel, and stealing the flower, but I think after hearing Rapunzel say I promise and the door beginning to open his hurt and anger returns and he refuses. As for what happens in "Secret of the Sundrop", Varian is fully working off his hurt and anger towards Rapunzel and Corona. After seeing Rapunzel hugging her parents after his final attempt to free his dad he finally snaps and in hurt and anger attacks Rapunzel. I think Varian is just so blinded by hurt and anger that he's forgotten who he truly is and truly wants to be, I think once he's had time to cool down and clear his head he'll be much more willing to talk.(hopefully with Arianna since she did try to talk to him before) I think the main reason the writers decided to have Varian become a villian is because he's connected to the moonstone. I mean Varian's inventions and alchemy concoctions intentionally or not cause destruction, just like the rocks/moonstone. Varian's hair color is also black with a blue streak, just like Rapunzel's hair color turned in "Rapunzel and the Great Tree". Varian's personality is also the polar opposite of Rapunzel's. And since Adira plans to neutralize the moonstone that could mean a redemption arc for Varian. Also, some supporting evidence for Varian being connected to the moonstone, is his father was caught in the blast from the opal/moonstone, putting some of it's magic inside him and eventually passing it down to Varian himself. So Varian's powers wouldn't activate around the rocks but the moonstone itself. I really want Varian to appear in season 2, showing that he's been following Rapunzel(hopefully wanting to make amends and apologize) and he'll help Rapunzel neutralize the moonstone.
After how they wrote Rapunzel's character when facing one of her biggest challenges since leaving the tower and failing even after centering a actual episode on Varian, making it more about Rapunzel need of validation on what a good friend she could be and nothing really pertaining to Varian's actual state and how is "friends" could actually help him for once...it's clear that the writers have no grievances about throwing away a character for the sake of an ungrateful, entitled heroine. This is why I myself stopped watching this show.
that what happens if you don't keep a promise when it's needed most. after the storm ended she could have checked on him but she just sat at her window gazing outside talking about what she did wrong. days past and she just went to some class when she could have been checking in on her friend. but I blame that adviser more.
That's not fair. His father clearly cares very deeply about Varian. I won't say he was never embarrassed or disappointed with his son because as a highly intellectual child his naivete gave him a leap without looking approach to things (especially with his inventions) that caused property damage so his dad was weary of those aspects of him, but in spite of that Varian's dad never mistreated him.
Even if it's ironic but the song "ready as I'll ever be" gave me courage to break up with my boyfriend who started to treat me bad and insult me for being honest and asking.
In my lineup of favorite conflicted Disney characters, he's tied with Cedric (Sofia the First), which is saying something because Cedric is my top standard for conflicted/naughty marshmallow/reformed antagonists.
This boy... dear god, Varian is probably one of Disneys most tragic characters to date. And seriously well written! He’s not a villian just because, “reasons”. We get to SEE how and why, and the beforehands... we’re given a chance to adore this kiddo, which is why it is just so heart wrenching to watch his fall into villainy. I am seriously hoping for a well written and NOT rushed redemption arc for Varian. There HAS to be some hope for him!
The very best part about this is that they show kids the real world where evil is relative, and differs from multiple points of view. I'd say no one here is truly guilty.
i think what will happen is cassandra, now joined by his side against the good guys, will push him to his limits and he'll redeem himself because he sees what cassandra has done and is doing
You forgot one detail that pushed Varian into the path of evil, not only that Rapunzel refused to break her promise, that it's full prashing was: "Don't worry, Varian. I haven't forgotten our agreement. We're gonna figure out the mystery behind these rocks. Together. Just give me until my father returns. Everything is gonna be okay. I promise." But after he was dragged out of the castle after begging for help he was also blamed for attacking princess Rapunzel, which gave him the reputation of a criminal in the kingdom way before he even became one ("I've had to lie low. A funny thing, the people of Corona aren't too keen on guys who attack their princess") so when he said that *everyone* turned their backs on him in his time of need he didn't mean only Rapunzel, he means the guards that threw him away from the castle back to the horrible storm and to Nigel who told everyone he attacked Rapunzel and to Eugene and Cassandra for not checking up on him after the storm ended and to the king of Corona that caused the black rock problem in the first place and then tried to ignore it for the next 18 years while his people suffer AND to the people of Corona for villifying him and turning their backs in him because of a rumor.
Also Rapunzel was "the beloved lost princess" that returned. If the people of Corona heard that someone "attacked" their princess? I'm surprised they didn't try to find Varian with pitchforks and torches and chase him out of town. (But I assume Nigel or whoever spread the rumor didn't add that the "attacker" was a child and a friend to the princess. So add in a little propaganda to mess with this 14yr old to ruin his life.)
@@tessb.lichtman4547 And not to mention probably his own hometown hated him. I bet you that they believed Varian could do that so they turn their backs on him too. The very town that he grew up in for all his life with people he tried to help by giving heated water (and who knows what other inventions he tried in order to better the town). A town that watched this boy grow up and desert him too. If Varian ever got redeemed, he would need a new start far, far away. Like maybe as far as the Dark Kingdom, maybe further, or at least to where people haven't heard of him or "The dangerous Wizard".
@@tessb.lichtman4547 Heck I could see King Edmond himself care for the boy as his own. He looks like to give great bear hugs. And I could see him saying "I don't understand any of your science but I support you anyway!" Plus the Dark Kingdom at the moment is bare so that would give Varian plenty of room to trial and error his experiments without hurting anyone. (Like that's some good Realestate for an insanely low price) Maybe even get a whole country side to himself or whatever size he wants!!!
@@tessb.lichtman4547 I agree! Fredric has to keep secrets and "make tough choices" so I doubt if Varian will ever trust him. I don't know if I even do! He still never apologized for going through Rapunzel's journal and punishing her friend (behind her back to! It was only luck that Rapunzel found Cass before she was sent away! "Oh hi sweetheart! What? Where's Cassandra? She probably went to get some knight training to become a royal guard...Yes! That's it") While King Edmond literally gave up his family and his kingdom and chose to stay behind. But as soon as he saw his son he didn't do the "over protective" shtick, he came to eugene with open arms and trusted him and his friends and even dismantled everything he stood for just for his son. (Not to say that Fredric is a bad king or father, I sympathize, but he's simply not the right person to handle Varian)
Varian is my favorite character and i feel soo bad for him. All he wanted was to save his father, Rapunzel previously promised to help him whenever he needed. But when he did asked for help nobody did. I also don't blame Rapunzel because she was in a tight position between helping her friend or either her kingdom from freezing to death. So i can't be mad at any of them, tho i still feel bad for the boy.
you know? I don't remember Rapunzel explaining her situation to Varian, he could make and idea, but he actually, didn't know with accuracy the situation in Corona
she should’ve definitely gone to see what was going on after it was alright though, although she is not at fault for the initial refusal of his help what was stopping her after that? nothing, Rapunzel should have checked on him so she should have at least some blame
@@Ando1428 she forgot about him! Her family was okay clearly the only ones who matter to her. If it had been the other way around he would have helped her just as he had frequently in the past.
Honestly this entire time, I sided with Varian. He truly did not deserve any of what has happened to him, especially since he only helped any time he was in an episode. It's really sad and I hope he does get a happy ending. 😢
Tess B. Lichtman I wouldn’t blame him for having trust issues. It’s the Steven universe movie (which I don’t intend on watching I just know the villain) all over again
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@@ILoveJapan28A Edited: Then again she should've check after the storm had ended. I read the first one and disagree on some of the things. Yes Raps did drop everything for her missing pet, but the country was not in a crisis back then. Raps was under a lot of pressure. Stop thinking it was all her fault.
Rapunzel and her family hugging and enjoying their "happy ending" while Varian bared witness, lamenting the loss of his father against the amber was just brutal.
I mean...nobody helped him when he needed it! Anyone would go nuts after so much failed attempts-to make him proud. In a way..you can’t just lock a 14 year old for getting revenge that he needed in a way that is just so big.
He was put in adult jail with an adult who was known to be manipulative. No wonder he continued to be evil. Who knows what happened to him in jail. That’s a violation of human rights.
The first words of description we ever get of Varian are "some say he's dangerous", and this is far from the last time we see him described as or viewed as a menace, even if indirectly. It is no surprise that this hurt child, who really only meant well, would end up leaning into and accepting the way people saw him. It's really messed up, I'm glad Varian got the happy ending he deserved, but god he had to go through hell to get there.
Well it's the end of Middle Ages, we can see there are still the remnants of a castle wall around Old Corona. The Bourgeoisie still doesn't have power - therefore no Enlightment... and our Varian gets persecuted. :( But then in Varian and the 7 Kingdoms we see that he got out of Corona and gets to be Industrial Revolution hero he deserves to be :)
@@julianaju2692the 7 kingdoms doesn't count as it was never made and not cannon. And I am glad. Because they tried going with the angle of "evil is inherent" angle with his Mom being evil. Hard pass. No thanks.
This was what confused me most about Cassandra's betrayal. She acts like she's second best to everyone and no one ever notices her but Varian wanted to impress _her_ specifically with his creations. Someone saw her and saw Cassandra. Not Rapunzel's lady in waiting.
Varian at the start was so adorable, I couldn't help but fangirl squeal. To see his character development work in reverse of typical "I have flaws I can get better" to a series of unfortunate events (Haha that reference!) that distorted his view on the world and turned for the worse. It made me really sad his misery worsened. If he is to be redeemed, it will take a lot of effort to change his mind about the world.
Frankly, Rapunzel holds a lot of the blame for Varian mindset. Not because she broke her promise during QfaD (That was an impossible situation and she did her best), but because she never once bothered to correct people that Varian didn't attack her. That's a big reason why Varian is so deep in his "me against the whole world" mindset, since everyone in Corona treated him like a criminal before he ever did something. I mean what kind of shitty friend you have to be that you just *let* people slander and frame your friend? And one that you apperently feel really guilty about turning away.
Even tho varian deserves the damn prison (cause lets say it, try to destroy a monarchy isn't the best thing to do) he does need a redemption arc, or at least a second conflict arc, he's too well written to let him go
ikr like i dont think hes in the right but i still want varian to have some sort of thing eventually i dislike when people say that hes not in the wrong whatsoever and rapunzel is bad and stuff because rapunzel has to save her country and all
@@YenNguyen-qj1mo im totally agreed with that, yes, varian is trying to save his father but he kinda overdone it (he literally kidnap the flipping queen) In the other hand even though Rapunzel has her fault, she tried to fix it. So yeah both of them is kinda innocent
@@YenNguyen-qj1mo Right. Varian is in the wrong, but it's also his dad's fault. His dad shouldn't ignore the rocks. Varian was at least try to do something. I still like them both.
In Ralph Breaks The Internet, the princesses claim that their song is found after reflecting while staring at some form of water. Varian was walking through snow while reflecting. Snow is basically frozen water. Varian is a princess. 😘
Varian's such a cinnamon roll! I cried watching him turn to the darkness after he saw his dad encased in amber.🥺 I'm glad he got redemption and is currently fighting by Rapunzel's side.😍😁
I think he can be redeemed but only if he wants it and proves it with his actions. He shouldn't have blamed Rapunzel for not being able to help,as temporary queen while her parents were away everyone was looking to her to lead. She was in a no win situation and couldn't be two places at once,eventhough of she could've she would've been so no one was hurt.
NinjaGirlSakura1 actually he was understanding that she couldn't help during a state of emergency, but she had plenty of time and didn't go to see him.
+Tess B. Lichtman How was Rapunzel leading her nation through a crisis a mistake on any level? Whatever mistakes she made, if any, pale before Varian's. He has to apologize, first and deeply, before she says anything.
+Tess B. Lightman Okay. Let's continue the analogy of the 'friend in distress'. The friend calls you over a situation that he, himself, is responsible for. You're in a distressful situation yourself, so you're not in a mindset to help, as it's taking you everything to deal with your own distressful situation. You're sorry you can't help, but your situation is equal, if not greater, than his. And the situation and its aftermath lasts long enough that it keeps you busy and preoccupied, and your friend's situation understandably slips from your mind. That's a very human response. Your friend pretends to forgive and forget, but backstabs you later. At that point, had it ended there, it would have been almost okay. Yes, your friend is being disproportionate, but in his mind, this is fair. And there is a warped way to see it as a sort of 'getting even'. The difference is that you never intended to betray, and he clearly relished the idea. Oh, and that your 'betrayal' made more sense in context. Still, had it gone only that far, yeah, maybe. But your friend doesn't stop there. He unleashes weapons on your city, hurting and killing people who had nothing to do with what was going on between you two. He mutates his pet into a monster to hurt and possibly kill people. He kidnaps your mother, then hooks you up to machine and pretty tortures you as he uses it. Oh, and he also makes a point that he will attack your city ANYWAY, even AFTER his father is free. The machine proves one thing: even if you had gone to help, nothing could have been done. The situation was his fault, and there was no fixing it. But your friend refuses to own up to his mistakes. He refuses to believe that HE could possibly have been WRONG. He insanely keeps believing that it is all YOUR fault, and outright tries to KILL you. So, Rapunzel's wrongs: Refusing to help a friend in need because of many other people being in need, being slow in following-up on Varian's situation because of her own situation. Varian's wrongs: Turns his back on all of his friends without even trying to understand their situation. Cruelly backstabs Rapunzel. Mutates his loyal pet and friend against his will. Attacks Corona Kidnaps the Queen (the most innocent party in the Royal Family). Promises to attack Corona again even after his father is freed. Tortures Rapunzel so hard the King is afraid it will kill her. Then completely flies off the handle and tries to outright kill Rapunzel. So, given that Varian kidnapped Rapunzel's mom, tried to kill her other friends, tortured her and tried to kill her? No, by that point, she doesn't owe Varian squat. You don't owe someone who tortured you and outright tried to kill you. You just don't. Turning away from someone because of a greater emergency is ENTIRELY forgivable. Kidnapping, sequestering, torturing and trying to kill people is NOT. Varian's wrongs are not in the same galaxy of wrong compared to Rapunzel. Why are you trying to make them even remotely equal? They're not. She stopped owing him the moment he kidnapped her mom.
also, the fact that when what he thought would work to get his dad out didn’t work, the fact he had to watch Rapunzel have both of her parents with her, while he had practically nothing left was heartbreaking. he lived to make his father proud. in his mind, when he lost his father, he lost everything. i would also like to point out in ready as i’ll ever be, when he says “i’ll make them hear me”, he’s being sung over
“Villains - are people, who stories never been told” Tangled the Series proved that quote by showing the story of Varian through the season and the outcome of actions of main characters, how it’s affect people around them. And notice, many villains did not had support around them when they were suffering and turning to evil, like Varian did not have anyone to talk about it (like close close friends or family member, I doubt that Rap, Cas and Eugene would be count as his best best friends (But I believe Varian believed they were his only friends so)). Villains only gathers minions after the corrupt, since they stop trusting anyone. Great Video explains the story of Varian!
The aspect that bothers me more, is the reason of Rapunzel for not helped Varian after the Storm and waited a lot time to finally go to pay him a visit, leaving him alone and scorned, because to insult to injury, Varian ended falsely accused by Nigel for "attacked" Rapunzel, and the "kind" princess don't ever bothers in silences nor discredits this false rumor, despite to knows that Varian only was begging her for help, yet she don't tried anything with this. I said this because in "One angry princess", when Attila, one of her friends, was accused for apparently vandalized the business of Monty, she put an impressive effort and interest to clean his name, saving him barely from rots in a prison, but when Varian was in a similar situation, she simply ignored him and leaves him by his own. And after that Varian stole the flower, Rapunzel don't knows why he did this and refused to trusted in her. Don't misunderstand, i knows that Varian and Rapunzel could reconciled, but i still thinks that the princess was selfish with Varian and a bad friend, for be indifferent with him during this crisis for the alchemist.
Also, regarding the possibles reasons to that Rapunzel don't helped inmediately Varian after the storm, i was thinking in two theories: 1. To considers that Varian was accused for "attacked" Rapunzel, possibly the king Frederic was one of the first people in get this news from the wicked Nigel, and to considers his overprotective nature, the king could restricts Rapunzel of even get near from Varian out of fear that he could harms her. And even if Rapunzel tried to leaves clear that Varian don't attacked her, possibly the king was still skeptical and as Rapunzel don't put any charges, the king chose don't arrests Varian and simply forbidded Rapunzel to see him, explaining her decision of stays in her room lamenting herself in the end of "Queen for a day", than makes something to make up Varian for refused the help earlier, and also could explains why she don't tries to visits him during her art classes despite to feels herself bad for it, and finally she chose to visits after the nightmare and that Varian asks her for help, regardless if her father allows her or not. 2. It is possible that Rapunzel was ignoring and avoiding intentionally Varian out of fear or out of shame, as she could be embarassed for broke a promise and/or she was afraid of that Varian lashes her out if she visits him after the storm and to considers the naive personality of Rapunzel, she thinks innocently that if Varian needs her help, he should asks her, leaving him by his own for a long time, as Varian couldn't even be safe if he goes to the castle town, as to be accused from "attacked" their beloved princess, the people could even attack violently Varian, spoiling even the possibility of asks for help to others, and causing that he developed a notable grudge and trusts issues not only toward Rapunzel and the royal family, but also toward all the kingdom for this unfair treatment. And possibly Rapunzel don't tried to discredit this rumor for thinks naively that this wasn't a big deal, as Varian was only accused, but not arrested, making that the fool princess don't bothered in put an end this rumor. Nevertheless, whether her reasons were the number 1 or number 2, Rapunzel still took wrong decisions in each scenario, because in the case of the number 1, Rapunzel lacks the same determination like in "One angry princess" to defends Varian for a crime that he don't commited, and even she showed certain cowardly for allowed that her father leave Varian by his own without takes the initiative earlier to helps his friend, even if means disobeys the unfair order of the king. And in the case of the number 2, Rapunzel simply was a naive person that is incapable to understand the consequences of her actions, making her incapable to see the predicament of Varian, to considers his showed despair for help and failed to recognized the very negative implications of the false rumor to Varian. Meaning that in both scenarios, Rapunzel was a bad friend and partially responsible of the downfall of Varian. PS. I thinks that Rapunzel already knows about this rumor, even before of "Quest for Varian", as Nigel mentioned this rumor to Rapunzel in this episode, yet she don't shows any notable reaction of surprise nor shock to hears about this, implying that she already knows the rumor.
I DESPERATELY hope that Varian gets a redemption arc. Yes, he went down a very dark path... However, he has time to change it, I fully believe if they are able to figure out a way to free his Father by this journey they are on - Varian could easily be redeemed. He's just a kid who wants his family, and that's understandable.
Varian is such a tragic villain, and you can completely understand his fall to evil. He’s only 14, his Dad was the only person he really had, and all he saw was Rapunzel break her promise and turn her back on him when he needed her the most. It’s not her fault obviously, the entire kingdom was in danger, but all Varian saw was a betrayal. I definitely think he could be redeemed though, if he takes the chance. I hope he returns to the show soon, he’s such an interesting character.
Though I’d like to say that yes Varian’s fall was of his fault as well as he choose to do those things and attack Rapunzel. But I would also like to point out that even after the storm no one even cared to check up on him. He told Rapunzel his town was destroyed and his dad was in danger. Varian was alone in that time no parents no one. Anyone would have gone crazy with the rage he had. If Rapunzel is shown as some super kind and wonderful character she really let everyone down by basically abandoning Varian. In the second season she completely forgot about him to. The only time he showed up was once in a vision depicted as evil. With rapunzel’s supposed kind natured personality I at least expected her to see Varian happy again with the statue, but she didn’t even bother all she cared about was her family and other friends. Rapunzel didn’t show any sign of being sorry or wanting to help him herself. She didn’t even go to the prison to ensure he was doing okay before she left. She never thinks of him at all in the time she’s gone and all she cares about is her own freedom and destiny. She got her happy ending in the end of season one and in season two got to explore and totally forgot and abandoned Varian just as Disney did. This was the whole reason became evil in the first place. Who’s the real villain?
I don’t think it was all his fault but I agree with everything else you said here are more reasons i am on Varian side you don't have to read all of them if you don't want to littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/172061235790/why-i-dont-agree-with-all-the-varian-hate shadowweirdo.tumblr.com/post/175819839992/i-dont-mean-to-shoot-anyone-down-for-liking tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/182928469797/hey-can-i-just-say-something-i-dont-want-to villainsmatter.tumblr.com/post/175926900347/very-very-veeeeeery-long-post-where-i-rant-about candiofoldcorona.tumblr.com/post/178225327558/variansmyson-haveyouheardofthathairshow artistofmanyfandoms.tumblr.com/post/175402106767/okay-so lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/170670032883/id-like-to-talk-about-the-timeline-concerning lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/177412557408/if-you-havent-watched-the-episode-dont-read-this nightingale101.tumblr.com/post/179387096026/so-its-3-am-i-cant-sleep-heres-some-thoughts i-only-know-fandoms.tumblr.com/post/179231856961/im-sorry-but-in-king-pascal-rapunzel-can-almost king-of-nyc.tumblr.com/post/182356737022/in-the-show-tangled-the-series-varian-is-often wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175328125730/i-made-the-mistake-of-attempting-to lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/175582330613/this-is-a-rant-on-the-current-episode-dont-give wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175094124825/sonnenstola-replied-to-your-post codynaomiswire.tumblr.com/post/175140781084/believe-me-cass-i-want-answers-more-than jays-disney-corner.tumblr.com/post/182635712295/kaede02mangaka-judging-too-soon-hi-i-did-this Him showing doubt and hessitation and regret for the things he's done chiscribbles4smiles.tumblr.com/post/171434384323/hi-its-me-back-at-it-again-with-another-varian wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/173399583880/jeremys-everything-in-ready-as aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/169755955173/anxiouseugene-this-kid-is-so-desperate-its aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/170130667228/girl-from-old-corona-village-what-should-i-feel crimsontoska.tumblr.com/post/172830601985/observations?is_related_post=1 tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/171529516887/codynaomiswire-tenshichan1013-tts-the girl-from-old-corona-village.tumblr.com/post/169914210702/codynaomiswire-girl-from-old-corona-village 78.media.tumblr.com/764568b33bf00be8fc5a9c844b2e0261/tumblr_p9mp1rIDTy1sf0d1no5_1280.png 78.media.tumblr.com/7b4df1baeab3e2ba8b37303580c42944/tumblr_p9mp1rIDTy1sf0d1no6_1280.png melcecilia14.tumblr.com/post/178195145846/haveyouheardofthathairshow-on-the-real-though askvarian-alchemyisforstuds.tumblr.com/post/178225327558/variansmyson-haveyouheardofthathairshow littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/168657453269/varian-good-bad-or-just-realistic-seems-to-be littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/169745566214/why-do-you-still-like-varian-i-mean-i-get-hes-a littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/173738615249/chiscribbles4smiles-something-to-consider-about jessucakes.tumblr.com/post/177190866061/uniiiquehecrt-codynaomiswire stelte23.tumblr.com/post/177582091238 glyph-of-wolves.tumblr.com/post/173653482504/glyph-of-wolves-tangled-the-series-watch-as glyph-of-wolves.tumblr.com/post/173747758109/problem-with-varian-being-a-villain predominantlynormal.tumblr.com/post/176747317690/lovejapan55-watch-the-show-though-and-he-was variablevarian.tumblr.com/post/176863132163/predominantlynormal-the-varian-villain-arc theironclockworkravenboy.tumblr.com/post/170704551024/fangirltothefullest-littlehobbit13-im-not blackroseaki38.tumblr.com/post/174746375328/littlehobbit13-im-not-trying-to-excuse-any-of takeabreathandsmile.tumblr.com/post/170768301820/toonlover13-gravityfallslover1-you-know-i dazais-guardian-angel.tumblr.com/post/169796247520/i-dont-care-what-my-dad-says-but-the-females-in dragonpride99.tumblr.com/post/173491888888/okay-im-not-trying-to-rant-but-look-at-how docs.google.com/document/d/13R9Ry1OhQAYE4DvuPhtmdfOaCGPLHgDSyGMfVCui1dc/mobilebasic wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175849195515/wcrthpride-rapunzel-isolated-and-lonely-for wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/176398938770/honestly-id-love-to-read-your-thoughts-on-the i-am-narcoleptic.tumblr.com/post/168912773141/what-she-says-im-fine-what-she-means-rapunzel tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/171261885737/i-been-thinking-recently-of-how-varian-just-really tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/173134933212/starxapple-lol-im-gonna-cry-thinking-about-how lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169739651710/also-look-i-understand-that-rapunzel-was-going lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169685948905/i-mean-not-to-be-that-guy-but-rapunzel-did-say lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169742133605/like-the-king-a-competent-adult-was-selfish ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174469131579/justice-for-varian-rant ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174247003654/varian-after-months-of-trying-every-possible ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174165758449/gravityfallslover1-ofekma-about-varians ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174242381639 ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174248136309/what-do-you-mean-its-not-what-happened lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/174763410748/varian-only-do-things-because-he-wants-to-impress girl-from-old-corona-village.tumblr.com/post/174240114377 sparkycanteven.tumblr.com/post/169674053696/honor-among-thieves-littlehobbit13-rapunzel the-alchemical-key.tumblr.com/post/169849898004/you-know-theres-been-something-on-my-mind the-alchemical-key.tumblr.com/post/173965604114 pftones3482.tumblr.com/post/169723403204/all-the-people-shitting-on-varian-literally lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/174120949298/i-am-sick-of-this lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169799264040/dittolicous-im-rewatching-the-sundrop-special-and lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169758020315/omfg-even-on-the-freakin-tvtropes-pages-all-the lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169760077280/dittolicous-lastoneout-anarkyandnakama
He was also thrown into a snow storm and Raps didn’t stop the rumors that he attacked her. Imagine if you were a young teenage boy and you couldn’t buy food or anything because everyone hates you for something that never happened. The king also ran him out of his home. Really king Fredrick is the true villain here. He’s irresponsible and is more concerned about looking good then doing problems.
@@lelduck6388 this always gives me question what did he eat all this months alone, if the town hate him and rocks destroyed almost everything in town to eat? And where did he go if some hate crowds came for him
I think Varian is the most shocking antagonist I have ever seen. I never saw it coming. It really came as a surprise. I really thought Varian wouldn't have such a big role in the show but I'm so glad he does. Definitely hoping the show will bring him back and I think they will. Because so many fans want it and his story definitely hasn't finished yet.
I only watched some episodes (I don't mind spoilers) and he became my favorite character in the series the moment he appeared on screen 😍 What happened to him was very unfair and right down depressing. It's true that Rapunzel was busy and overwhelmed with her responsibilities. But it's a fact that Varian dropped Everything and didn't hesitate one second to help his friends the moment they needed him. It's only natural he would expect them to do the same for him... But no. And then, of course, he became vengeful. I can't say he isn't to blame for what he did after with all those attacks to Corona. But he had been so desperate, sad and scared and no one helped him that it's understandable he would be deeply troubled. Plus he is only a child... Children do irrational stuff when they are scared and lost. Lots of love to my boi Varian and I hope he gets a redemption arc. ❤ Also, props to Isaac for his awesome as heck video as usual. 💕
The kid was thrown into a blizzard and forgotten about in the aftermath. He was left alone for months, he probably went a little crazy, you can hardly blame him. He was definitely having a mental breakdown after not being able to save his father. The murder thing wasn’t cool, but the robot and kidnapping from his preceptive most likely seemed like the only way to be heard. He has to send a lantern to Rapunzel because he was being attacked, and considering the rumor he attacked her the guards wouldn’t let him see her directly. He didn’t have many options.
Varian was wronged real bad. He was thrown into a deadly blizzard by the guards, they could have let him stay there but no. That and the fact that he was alone for months with no care. He’s called a kid in the series so it’s obvious he shouldn’t be taking care of himself. The world failed him. That doesn’t justify murder, but he isn’t the only one to blame.
@@Just_Hyupi OMG I didn't expect to find another anime fan here! (I haven't watched Tokyo Ghoul but there's a Waterstones near me and last time I checked they've got the manga!😀)
@@gothnerd887 Ya I know what happened in the latest episode of tangled cass done yeeted the moon stone into herself turning into ultra sans and now she gonna give Raps a *bad time*
You forgot the key moment that truly pushed him over the edge. The fact that rapunzel keeps promising to help him but never keeps those promises. Not to mention she never goes to check on him after the storm. Repunzel had plenty of moments where she could have helped him but she doesn't. She always made time for the others but never varian. She never had time to help someone who truly needed her. She turned him into a villian in my opinion. She also allowed the people to believe that he attacked her during the storm when all he did was beg her for her help. He never attacked her. Yet not once does she correct any of them. Nor does she check on him. She only ever spoke to him when she needed something. Not once does she visit him just to visit. It's always because she needs something. She was absolutely horrible to varian. Always brushing him off until it was time for her to cash in another favor.
They will eventually figure out a way to free Varian's dad, which won't solve everything instantly, but will definitely help Varian to start going in the right direction again.
I have been waiting for this video! Varian is such a complex character and I really enjoy him! I really didn't like how people didn't appreciate his ideas. I can understand how he ended up the way he did. I relate to Varian's determination to do something about the things he believes in. I really hope to see him again soon.
It has been +9 months since it all ended BUT I DON'T CARE. This character is the most genius creation Disney has ever done. I'm going to explain why: - He is realistic. He sort of reminds us of the Enlightment period when science got a spotlight in Europe. -He fights at least a bit against Rapunzel's father and his "dictatorship" ways. Rapunzel does mention that he emprisioned a lot of his workers because of minor problems. - He shows that royalty is just a bunch of entitled people who like to oppress people and pretend they hear the population. (I LOVE his sarcastic tone when saying your highness). - He is a self made boy/man. He is arguably the strongest person in Corona after Rapunzel loses her powers. -He is the only one with a long lasting TRUE career. Ok Rapunzel may be a queen...but she is not exactly the most intelligent in Europe and has the brain and maturity to rule as a 5 years old. She has no true preparation in war, military, knowledge.... and she didn't get a good marriage. Way to go Varian!
Varian is such a good written villain! to see him go from a sweet nice boy to a full on bad guy, it’s pretty awesome! also Jeremy Jordan voice acts him and that singing voice though!
I think we would all break down and lash out if we lost the only parent we've known and loved our entire lives and the people we reach out to do nothing to help like Varian did.
I absolutely love and relate to Varian. Enthusiastic, smart, perseveres, and was constantly willing to put forth effort, to redeem himself! And of course he succeeds in redeeming himself, for his past misdeeds
She didn’t have good reasons to not check on him for months when everything was fine here are more reasons i am on Varian side you don't have to read all of them if you don't want to littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/172061235790/why-i-dont-agree-with-all-the-varian-hate shadowweirdo.tumblr.com/post/175819839992/i-dont-mean-to-shoot-anyone-down-for-liking tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/182928469797/hey-can-i-just-say-something-i-dont-want-to villainsmatter.tumblr.com/post/175926900347/very-very-veeeeeery-long-post-where-i-rant-about artistofmanyfandoms.tumblr.com/post/175402106767/okay-so lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/170670032883/id-like-to-talk-about-the-timeline-concerning lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/177412557408/if-you-havent-watched-the-episode-dont-read-this nightingale101.tumblr.com/post/179387096026/so-its-3-am-i-cant-sleep-heres-some-thoughts i-only-know-fandoms.tumblr.com/post/179231856961/im-sorry-but-in-king-pascal-rapunzel-can-almost king-of-nyc.tumblr.com/post/182356737022/in-the-show-tangled-the-series-varian-is-often wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175328125730/i-made-the-mistake-of-attempting-to lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/175582330613/this-is-a-rant-on-the-current-episode-dont-give wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175094124825/sonnenstola-replied-to-your-post codynaomiswire.tumblr.com/post/175140781084/believe-me-cass-i-want-answers-more-than jays-disney-corner.tumblr.com/post/182635712295/kaede02mangaka-judging-too-soon-hi-i-did-this Him showing doubt and hessitation and regret for the things he's done chiscribbles4smiles.tumblr.com/post/171434384323/hi-its-me-back-at-it-again-with-another-varian wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/173399583880/jeremys-everything-in-ready-as aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/169755955173/anxiouseugene-this-kid-is-so-desperate-its aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/170130667228/girl-from-old-corona-village-what-should-i-feel crimsontoska.tumblr.com/post/172830601985/observations?is_related_post=1 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wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/176398938770/honestly-id-love-to-read-your-thoughts-on-the i-am-narcoleptic.tumblr.com/post/168912773141/what-she-says-im-fine-what-she-means-rapunzel tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/171261885737/i-been-thinking-recently-of-how-varian-just-really tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/173134933212/starxapple-lol-im-gonna-cry-thinking-about-how lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169739651710/also-look-i-understand-that-rapunzel-was-going lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169685948905/i-mean-not-to-be-that-guy-but-rapunzel-did-say lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169742133605/like-the-king-a-competent-adult-was-selfish ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174469131579/justice-for-varian-rant ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174247003654/varian-after-months-of-trying-every-possible ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174165758449/gravityfallslover1-ofekma-about-varians ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174242381639 ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174248136309/what-do-you-mean-its-not-what-happened 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Yeah there is so much they glossed over it pisses me off here are reasons i am on Varian side you don't have to read all of them if you don't want to littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/172061235790/why-i-dont-agree-with-all-the-varian-hate shadowweirdo.tumblr.com/post/175819839992/i-dont-mean-to-shoot-anyone-down-for-liking tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/182928469797/hey-can-i-just-say-something-i-dont-want-to villainsmatter.tumblr.com/post/175926900347/very-very-veeeeeery-long-post-where-i-rant-about artistofmanyfandoms.tumblr.com/post/175402106767/okay-so lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/170670032883/id-like-to-talk-about-the-timeline-concerning lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/177412557408/if-you-havent-watched-the-episode-dont-read-this nightingale101.tumblr.com/post/179387096026/so-its-3-am-i-cant-sleep-heres-some-thoughts i-only-know-fandoms.tumblr.com/post/179231856961/im-sorry-but-in-king-pascal-rapunzel-can-almost king-of-nyc.tumblr.com/post/182356737022/in-the-show-tangled-the-series-varian-is-often wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175328125730/i-made-the-mistake-of-attempting-to lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/175582330613/this-is-a-rant-on-the-current-episode-dont-give wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175094124825/sonnenstola-replied-to-your-post codynaomiswire.tumblr.com/post/175140781084/believe-me-cass-i-want-answers-more-than jays-disney-corner.tumblr.com/post/182635712295/kaede02mangaka-judging-too-soon-hi-i-did-this Him showing doubt and hessitation and regret for the things he's done chiscribbles4smiles.tumblr.com/post/171434384323/hi-its-me-back-at-it-again-with-another-varian wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/173399583880/jeremys-everything-in-ready-as aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/169755955173/anxiouseugene-this-kid-is-so-desperate-its aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/170130667228/girl-from-old-corona-village-what-should-i-feel crimsontoska.tumblr.com/post/172830601985/observations?is_related_post=1 tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/171529516887/codynaomiswire-tenshichan1013-tts-the girl-from-old-corona-village.tumblr.com/post/169914210702/codynaomiswire-girl-from-old-corona-village 78.media.tumblr.com/764568b33bf00be8fc5a9c844b2e0261/tumblr_p9mp1rIDTy1sf0d1no5_1280.png 78.media.tumblr.com/7b4df1baeab3e2ba8b37303580c42944/tumblr_p9mp1rIDTy1sf0d1no6_1280.png melcecilia14.tumblr.com/post/178195145846/haveyouheardofthathairshow-on-the-real-though askvarian-alchemyisforstuds.tumblr.com/post/178225327558/variansmyson-haveyouheardofthathairshow littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/168657453269/varian-good-bad-or-just-realistic-seems-to-be littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/169745566214/why-do-you-still-like-varian-i-mean-i-get-hes-a littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/173738615249/chiscribbles4smiles-something-to-consider-about jessucakes.tumblr.com/post/177190866061/uniiiquehecrt-codynaomiswire estelle132.tumblr.com/post/177582091238/jessucakes-something-i-find-pretty-interesting glyph-of-wolves.tumblr.com/post/173653482504/glyph-of-wolves-tangled-the-series-watch-as glyph-of-wolves.tumblr.com/post/173747758109/problem-with-varian-being-a-villain predominantlynormal.tumblr.com/post/176747317690/lovejapan55-watch-the-show-though-and-he-was variablevarian.tumblr.com/post/176863132163/predominantlynormal-the-varian-villain-arc theironclockworkravenboy.tumblr.com/post/170704551024/fangirltothefullest-littlehobbit13-im-not blackroseaki38.tumblr.com/post/174746375328/littlehobbit13-im-not-trying-to-excuse-any-of takeabreathandsmile.tumblr.com/post/170768301820/toonlover13-gravityfallslover1-you-know-i dazais-guardian-angel.tumblr.com/post/169796247520/i-dont-care-what-my-dad-says-but-the-females-in dragonpride99.tumblr.com/post/173491888888/okay-im-not-trying-to-rant-but-look-at-how docs.google.com/document/d/13R9Ry1OhQAYE4DvuPhtmdfOaCGPLHgDSyGMfVCui1dc/mobilebasic wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175849195515/wcrthpride-rapunzel-isolated-and-lonely-for wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/176398938770/honestly-id-love-to-read-your-thoughts-on-the i-am-narcoleptic.tumblr.com/post/168912773141/what-she-says-im-fine-what-she-means-rapunzel tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/171261885737/i-been-thinking-recently-of-how-varian-just-really tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/173134933212/starxapple-lol-im-gonna-cry-thinking-about-how lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169739651710/also-look-i-understand-that-rapunzel-was-going lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169685948905/i-mean-not-to-be-that-guy-but-rapunzel-did-say lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169742133605/like-the-king-a-competent-adult-was-selfish ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174469131579/justice-for-varian-rant ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174247003654/varian-after-months-of-trying-every-possible ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174165758449/gravityfallslover1-ofekma-about-varians ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174242381639 ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174248136309/what-do-you-mean-its-not-what-happened lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/174763410748/varian-only-do-things-because-he-wants-to-impress girl-from-old-corona-village.tumblr.com/post/174240114377 sparkycanteven.tumblr.com/post/169674053696/honor-among-thieves-littlehobbit13-rapunzel the-alchemical-key.tumblr.com/post/169849898004/you-know-theres-been-something-on-my-mind the-alchemical-key.tumblr.com/post/173965604114 pftones3482.tumblr.com/post/169723403204/all-the-people-shitting-on-varian-literally lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/174120949298/i-am-sick-of-this lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169799264040/dittolicous-im-rewatching-the-sundrop-special-and lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169758020315/omfg-even-on-the-freakin-tvtropes-pages-all-the lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169760077280/dittolicous-lastoneout-anarkyandnakama
I liked the way he went down fighting and was only redeemed after a while in jail, while Cass was taken down by love and friendship. It makes Varian cooler.
Varian is one of the best Disney villains, more so than any of the main Disney Princess movies. His motivation stems from betrayal and guilt, from his own realization that his father was right all along. The true tragedy is, even if his father is released, there is no possible way he would ever be proud of the person his son has become.
Ok but like if I were Varian I would turn evil too. All Varian wanted was help because his father was in danger and the guards literally dragged him out and threw him into a snow storm while Rapunzel did nothing but stand there. Then she acts SHOCKED that he betrays her. Like of course he would! When he needed her the most she betrayed him. What goes around comes around.
It certainly didn't help that despite Varien breaking down, sobbing about how his plan with Rapunzel didn't work and his father was still stuck... Rapunzel has her "happy ending" and freakin hugs her family in front of him with smiles on their faces... That's not cool, I'd bust out the robot too 9:20
I must say that Varian hits home with me a bit too hard. I try and support my friends and family but each time I reach out to them for help (as they do with me) I get told to deal with it myself. This is the biggest reason I don't trust people in doing things and Varian is similar that no one would listen, try to understand and help him to create something that would make his father proud. Instead they turn their backs on him and leave him in the grip of darkness. No one wanted to help and I don't blame him for losing faith in other people. With all that though, he still has to answer for his mistakes. Everyone does.
I would love it if Varian managed to be redeemed. I was first introduced to Varian in the episode he went on the attack and I just fell in love with his character, I especially loved his self acknowledgement as the bad guy. The redemption of an antagonist is one of my favorite things to watch happen, there's something interesting about the bad guy playing hero that appeals to me
Oh my God. I’ve been looking everywhere for a deep dive on this character. I was so happy and confused how I missed this, but I found out it was uploaded today, April 2, 2019! Thank you so much!!! I love character analysis videos and I love this character!
I fell in love with Varian’s character when he was first introduced. When I saw him turn evil, I was so shocked! I felt really bad for him though. I hope we see him again and that he’ll turn good again. Anyway, Love your videos!
Honestly Varian was my favorite. I loved the sweet and innocence and I loved it when he started to corrupt. I felt bad for him because I could connect with him on many levels and when he broke I couldn't help but see myself. I felt so sorry for him and hated watching him be taken down by the ones he thought he loved. I wish he had one honestly and helped his father. Rapunzel had abandoned him when he needed help even after the many many times he had helped her. No one hurts my little strawberry like that. I really want to see more from him. Maybe on future episodes he will come back and get the revenge on the ones who hurt him.
Every so often I rewatch this series and then some videos on it, including a bunch of yours. It’s one of my favorite shows and I’m glad someone likes it as much as I do :D
I believe his almost immediate turn to evil has to do with the personality changing potion he found... he obviously knew what it was when he used it against Rapunzel and her allies. So, how did he know what it did? He tested it on himself. I would love it if you did a theory on that! ❤️
The mood potion would also have reversed his desire to make his father proud or even free him so unlikely and if it was the truth potion Im not really sure how he managed to lie to Rapunzel.
It was heart breaking to see him become evil😭i just wish he can turn back into his sweet personality an intilagint and careing person in season 3 and become friends with repanzel💌 again and also still can have a crush on Cassandra🤗💜💜💕💕💙💙
ugh this video is so good! it's making me want to rewatch the series again!! I never really paid too much attention on Varian's transformation. like, I didn't really connect the dots, but now that you've made a video on Varian and his character arc, I wanna go back and see how it all plays out! Varian is probably my favorite character in the series, and knowing more about him really helps me appreciate his character and story a whole lot more. I really hope they bring him back. as a writer, I appreciate just how much Varian as a character evolves from one of Rapunzel's friends and a sweet, gentle protagonist to the main antagonist.
People keep saying that Rapunzel had too much responsibility in Corona to help Varian, but I disagree. Maybe she couldn’t have gone, but there was nothing stopping her from sending someone else. She could have just sent a friend, stayed where she was, and none of this would have happened. She didn’t even stop the guards from dragging Varian away because he “attacked” her. She just stood and watched. How could he not be the victim here?
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I Hope he is redeemed cuz I l9ve varion being a goofy nerdy guy myself I relate to him a lot and it really made me sad when he went bad and became ur run of the mill vengeance brat dung move disney lol 😂
I really want to know the full story of the Cinderella's mother and all the Disney mother's from from Disney princesses I want to know everything about them
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Varian better get redeemed! You did kinda leave out the part where Varian had to go into hiding due to the rumor of him attacking Rapunzel(which was false, he was only asking for help), it's both Rapunzel and Varian's fault for what happened to their Friendship. Since if Rapunzel had went to see Varian after the storm, apologized and explained herself Varian would've been more forgiving and willing to let her help. In the Alchemist returns, we do see Varian feel guilty about lying, manipulating Rapunzel, and stealing the flower, but I think after hearing Rapunzel say I promise and the door beginning to open his hurt and anger returns and he refuses.
As for what happens in "Secret of the Sundrop", Varian is fully working off his hurt and anger towards Rapunzel and Corona. After seeing Rapunzel hugging her parents after his final attempt to free his dad he finally snaps and in hurt and anger attacks Rapunzel.
I think Varian is just so blinded by hurt and anger that he's forgotten who he truly is and truly wants to be, I think once he's had time to cool down and clear his head he'll be much more willing to talk.(hopefully with Arianna since she did try to talk to him before)
I think the main reason the writers decided to have Varian become a villian is because he's connected to the moonstone. I mean Varian's inventions and alchemy concoctions intentionally or not cause destruction, just like the rocks/moonstone. Varian's hair color is also black with a blue streak, just like Rapunzel's hair color turned in "Rapunzel and the Great Tree".
Varian's personality is also the polar opposite of Rapunzel's.
And since Adira plans to neutralize the moonstone that could mean a redemption arc for Varian.
Also, some supporting evidence for Varian being connected to the moonstone, is his father was caught in the blast from the opal/moonstone, putting some of it's magic inside him and eventually passing it down to Varian himself. So Varian's powers wouldn't activate around the rocks but the moonstone itself.
I really want Varian to appear in season 2, showing that he's been following Rapunzel(hopefully wanting to make amends and apologize) and he'll help Rapunzel neutralize the moonstone.
@@cassyluvsanchez4005 same here
Here's the thing, during Ready as I'll Ever Be, when Varian says "I'm the bad guy that's fine." His voice cracks and looks and sounds very upset
BECAUSE HE NEEDS LOVE-
@@maashido8185 yes
Jay Marine whoa.
Thanks for breaking my heart even more! 😭
all he wants is what he thinks is justice
Varian's story broke my heart...I haven't even kept up with this show.
Same. I hated how they treated him like garbage.
Keep up with this show I’m telling you it’s worth it
Emiko Gale same
same bro i haven't catch up with the show
After how they wrote Rapunzel's character when facing one of her biggest challenges since leaving the tower and failing even after centering a actual episode on Varian, making it more about Rapunzel need of validation on what a good friend she could be and nothing really pertaining to Varian's actual state and how is "friends" could actually help him for once...it's clear that the writers have no grievances about throwing away a character for the sake of an ungrateful, entitled heroine. This is why I myself stopped watching this show.
He protecc
He attac
But most importantly
We want him bacc
Yaas
Yes
It's kinda messed up that they locked up a child
Also that Rapunzel made a promise she couldn't keep
Poor kid
We want him back 😭
Nope
@@donce1310 yes
I remember yelling at my screen, Rapunzel, you're making a supervillain! Pay attention!
Oh my gods same XD
Saaaameeeee
that what happens if you don't keep a promise when it's needed most. after the storm ended she could have checked on him but she just sat at her window gazing outside talking about what she did wrong. days past and she just went to some class when she could have been checking in on her friend. but I blame that adviser more.
@@kendraroth1276 Not to mention how his father treated him.
That's not fair. His father clearly cares very deeply about Varian. I won't say he was never embarrassed or disappointed with his son because as a highly intellectual child his naivete gave him a leap without looking approach to things (especially with his inventions) that caused property damage so his dad was weary of those aspects of him, but in spite of that Varian's dad never mistreated him.
Even if it's ironic but the song "ready as I'll ever be" gave me courage to break up with my boyfriend who started to treat me bad and insult me for being honest and asking.
I'm sorry but I'm glad u got away !!!! No one deserves that 🙂
@@vi4269 Thank you
How does Disney fix things like this?
THEY'RE FREAKING MAGIC THAT'S HOW
@@lightningchaser6637 ikr lol
@@lightningchaser6637 you're so right😊
This character is the most genius creation Disney has ever done.
Alejandra Cowans I can’t unsee it now why did you do this XD
Alejandra Cowans Also I don’t believe Percy Jackson is in line with Disney. Unless the author gave the series to Disney or something.
@Alejandra Cowans True there. Sorry for my kill joyness if I caused any.
In my lineup of favorite conflicted Disney characters, he's tied with Cedric (Sofia the First), which is saying something because Cedric is my top standard for conflicted/naughty marshmallow/reformed antagonists.
With Bill Cipher.
This boy... dear god, Varian is probably one of Disneys most tragic characters to date. And seriously well written! He’s not a villian just because, “reasons”. We get to SEE how and why, and the beforehands... we’re given a chance to adore this kiddo, which is why it is just so heart wrenching to watch his fall into villainy.
I am seriously hoping for a well written and NOT rushed redemption arc for Varian. There HAS to be some hope for him!
The very best part about this is that they show kids the real world where evil is relative, and differs from multiple points of view. I'd say no one here is truly guilty.
i think what will happen is cassandra, now joined by his side against the good guys, will push him to his limits and he'll redeem himself because he sees what cassandra has done and is doing
In my opinion now that he has had a redemtion is that it was very rushed
Li Holma I agree, honestly he deserves better. He was written so well for his redemption to just be thrown together like that so quickly.
bleuucat yeah it’s sad,
Part of me hopes that Varian will be redeemed before the end of the series. After all the things he went through, it's hard not to feel bad for him.
how many 7year olds watch that series again?
Fairy Floss not to many considering most parents say their kids were scared at a lot of parts, and it’s voted a teen/preteen show.
@@milomakesmusiccovers yeah nah most kids watch this type of disney princess thingy mboby .
@@frangipani8958 HA lol a kid with any sense would have stopped watching at the part when varian's dad gets incased
Fairy Floss well majority of people who watch it are 14+ so...
You forgot one detail that pushed Varian into the path of evil, not only that Rapunzel refused to break her promise, that it's full prashing was: "Don't worry, Varian.
I haven't forgotten our agreement.
We're gonna figure out the mystery behind these rocks.
Together.
Just give me until my father returns.
Everything is gonna be okay.
I promise."
But after he was dragged out of the castle after begging for help he was also blamed for attacking princess Rapunzel, which gave him the reputation of a criminal in the kingdom way before he even became one ("I've had to lie low.
A funny thing, the people of Corona aren't too keen on guys who attack their princess") so when he said that *everyone* turned their backs on him in his time of need he didn't mean only Rapunzel, he means the guards that threw him away from the castle back to the horrible storm and to Nigel who told everyone he attacked Rapunzel and to Eugene and Cassandra for not checking up on him after the storm ended and to the king of Corona that caused the black rock problem in the first place and then tried to ignore it for the next 18 years while his people suffer AND to the people of Corona for villifying him and turning their backs in him because of a rumor.
You are totally right!
Also Rapunzel was "the beloved lost princess" that returned. If the people of Corona heard that someone "attacked" their princess? I'm surprised they didn't try to find Varian with pitchforks and torches and chase him out of town. (But I assume Nigel or whoever spread the rumor didn't add that the "attacker" was a child and a friend to the princess. So add in a little propaganda to mess with this 14yr old to ruin his life.)
@@tessb.lichtman4547 And not to mention probably his own hometown hated him. I bet you that they believed Varian could do that so they turn their backs on him too. The very town that he grew up in for all his life with people he tried to help by giving heated water (and who knows what other inventions he tried in order to better the town). A town that watched this boy grow up and desert him too. If Varian ever got redeemed, he would need a new start far, far away. Like maybe as far as the Dark Kingdom, maybe further, or at least to where people haven't heard of him or "The dangerous Wizard".
@@tessb.lichtman4547 Heck I could see King Edmond himself care for the boy as his own. He looks like to give great bear hugs. And I could see him saying "I don't understand any of your science but I support you anyway!"
Plus the Dark Kingdom at the moment is bare so that would give Varian plenty of room to trial and error his experiments without hurting anyone. (Like that's some good Realestate for an insanely low price) Maybe even get a whole country side to himself or whatever size he wants!!!
@@tessb.lichtman4547 I agree! Fredric has to keep secrets and "make tough choices" so I doubt if Varian will ever trust him. I don't know if I even do! He still never apologized for going through Rapunzel's journal and punishing her friend (behind her back to! It was only luck that Rapunzel found Cass before she was sent away! "Oh hi sweetheart! What? Where's Cassandra? She probably went to get some knight training to become a royal guard...Yes! That's it")
While King Edmond literally gave up his family and his kingdom and chose to stay behind. But as soon as he saw his son he didn't do the "over protective" shtick, he came to eugene with open arms and trusted him and his friends and even dismantled everything he stood for just for his son. (Not to say that Fredric is a bad king or father, I sympathize, but he's simply not the right person to handle Varian)
Varian is my favorite character and i feel soo bad for him. All he wanted was to save his father, Rapunzel previously promised to help him whenever he needed. But when he did asked for help nobody did. I also don't blame Rapunzel because she was in a tight position between helping her friend or either her kingdom from freezing to death. So i can't be mad at any of them, tho i still feel bad for the boy.
you know? I don't remember Rapunzel explaining her situation to Varian, he could make and idea, but he actually, didn't know with accuracy the situation in Corona
Couldn't have phrased it better
she should’ve definitely gone to see what was going on after it was alright though, although she is not at fault for the initial refusal of his help what was stopping her after that? nothing, Rapunzel should have checked on him so she should have at least some blame
I love Virian, he is one of my favorite characters in the show. I can't blame Rapunzel because she was in a tough spot.
@@tessb.lichtman4547 True that moment she was out of character, she should have said wait here and went to check on him after the storm .
Me: *low-key cheering for Varian*
Edit: okay, okay, I admit it. Highkey******
TrishZeCrazy I low-key cheer for all of the Disney villains.
Me: *High-key cheering for Varian*
Sucks is that once the storm ended nothing stopped her from going to go help him. She kind of deserved his retribution
Eraser Mic SAME
@@Ando1428 she forgot about him! Her family was okay clearly the only ones who matter to her. If it had been the other way around he would have helped her just as he had frequently in the past.
Honestly this entire time, I sided with Varian. He truly did not deserve any of what has happened to him, especially since he only helped any time he was in an episode. It's really sad and I hope he does get a happy ending. 😢
@@tessb.lichtman4547 agree
Agree
I don’t care varian is a villain I love him no matter what 😤😍🥰💖❤️
Same!!!!!!HES SO FREAKING CUTEEEE!!💖💓💓💖💓💕💕💖💖
Same!
He’s not really a villain. I see it but it’s not his fault. It’s not his fault he’s used to rapunsel breaking promises
Tess B. Lichtman I wouldn’t blame him for having trust issues. It’s the Steven universe movie (which I don’t intend on watching I just know the villain) all over again
sAME HERE SIS 😭💕
Define bias: even as a villain, I can't stop routing for Varian, like "Yes get that revenge! Kill the Main characters, you go!". Yep. I have a problem
here are reasons i am on Varian side you don't have to read all of them if you don't want to
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/172061235790/why-i-dont-agree-with-all-the-varian-hate
shadowweirdo.tumblr.com/post/175819839992/i-dont-mean-to-shoot-anyone-down-for-liking
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/182928469797/hey-can-i-just-say-something-i-dont-want-to
villainsmatter.tumblr.com/post/175926900347/very-very-veeeeeery-long-post-where-i-rant-about
artistofmanyfandoms.tumblr.com/post/175402106767/okay-so
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/170670032883/id-like-to-talk-about-the-timeline-concerning
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/177412557408/if-you-havent-watched-the-episode-dont-read-this
nightingale101.tumblr.com/post/179387096026/so-its-3-am-i-cant-sleep-heres-some-thoughts
i-only-know-fandoms.tumblr.com/post/179231856961/im-sorry-but-in-king-pascal-rapunzel-can-almost
king-of-nyc.tumblr.com/post/182356737022/in-the-show-tangled-the-series-varian-is-often
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175328125730/i-made-the-mistake-of-attempting-to
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/175582330613/this-is-a-rant-on-the-current-episode-dont-give
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175094124825/sonnenstola-replied-to-your-post
codynaomiswire.tumblr.com/post/175140781084/believe-me-cass-i-want-answers-more-than
jays-disney-corner.tumblr.com/post/182635712295/kaede02mangaka-judging-too-soon-hi-i-did-this
Him showing doubt and hessitation and regret for the things he's done
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aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/170130667228/girl-from-old-corona-village-what-should-i-feel
crimsontoska.tumblr.com/post/172830601985/observations?is_related_post=1
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estelle132.tumblr.com/post/177582091238/jessucakes-something-i-find-pretty-interesting
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predominantlynormal.tumblr.com/post/176747317690/lovejapan55-watch-the-show-though-and-he-was
variablevarian.tumblr.com/post/176863132163/predominantlynormal-the-varian-villain-arc
theironclockworkravenboy.tumblr.com/post/170704551024/fangirltothefullest-littlehobbit13-im-not
blackroseaki38.tumblr.com/post/174746375328/littlehobbit13-im-not-trying-to-excuse-any-of
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dragonpride99.tumblr.com/post/173491888888/okay-im-not-trying-to-rant-but-look-at-how
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@@ILoveJapan28A
Edited: Then again she should've check after the storm had ended.
I read the first one and disagree on some of the things. Yes Raps did drop everything for her missing pet, but the country was not in a crisis back then. Raps was under a lot of pressure. Stop thinking it was all her fault.
Yeah, I hope he gets his revenge too. The other characters all kind of deserve it at this point.
I was too but now I realize that if he succeeded and my other theories are true (moon) he would have suicided.🙁
@@sunshadowkitten8487 explain?
Rapunzel and her family hugging and enjoying their "happy ending" while Varian bared witness, lamenting the loss of his father against the amber was just brutal.
Yeah
What they did was the textbook definition of "rubbing it in"
@@DragonGoddess18it wasn't intentional though.
I'm a simple woman. I see varian. I click
Same
Ah, i see you are a woman of culture, as well.
I’m 18 so I don’t think it’s legal for me to have a crush on him
Me too. See my boy, I click and get my weapons out. (for on and off the show)
I can confirm that to be very true
I legit saw the notification and almost yelled
"MY BOY!!!"
*Tries to hit the like button more than once* WHY ISN’T THIS WORKING!!!!
Same except I yelled out "MY SWEET BEAN!" 😆
Did u mean me because I love my precious evil son
SAME SIS!!!
Yeah same
Varian is now one of my favorite characters out of anything Disney
My favorite Disney character is either Lance, Eugene, Simba, Napa, or Varian
Me too
Mine is Rapunzel lol
Her moondrop incantation made me a fan
My favourite character is cassandra.😀😉🙃😉😂😉😉😉😉😉😉
If I were varian I would have turned evil too
Alex Ramos same.
I know right just imagine one of your best friends just turns there back at you when you need them the most
Just imagine you do all you can to help that friend then when you need them they just let you get dragged out there house
_Same_
Agree.
We need to able to meet Varian at the Disney Parks so that everyone can hug him, and then they need to sell Varian plush dolls so we can hug him more.
Y E S, I NEED A VARIAN PLUSHIE, AND TO HUG HIMMMMM-
We should start a petition!
I haven't seen the show yet but I fully agree
@@beccaboo123 >:3
its canon, it was in the finnale when he tricks rapunzel when his plushy figure is looking in the window.
I mean...nobody helped him when he needed it! Anyone would go nuts after so much failed attempts-to make him proud.
In a way..you can’t just lock a 14 year old for getting revenge that he needed in a way that is just so big.
He was put in adult jail with an adult who was known to be manipulative. No wonder he continued to be evil. Who knows what happened to him in jail. That’s a violation of human rights.
The first words of description we ever get of Varian are "some say he's dangerous", and this is far from the last time we see him described as or viewed as a menace, even if indirectly. It is no surprise that this hurt child, who really only meant well, would end up leaning into and accepting the way people saw him. It's really messed up, I'm glad Varian got the happy ending he deserved, but god he had to go through hell to get there.
Well it's the end of Middle Ages, we can see there are still the remnants of a castle wall around Old Corona. The Bourgeoisie still doesn't have power - therefore no Enlightment... and our Varian gets persecuted. :( But then in Varian and the 7 Kingdoms we see that he got out of Corona and gets to be Industrial Revolution hero he deserves to be :)
@@julianaju2692the 7 kingdoms doesn't count as it was never made and not cannon. And I am glad. Because they tried going with the angle of "evil is inherent" angle with his Mom being evil. Hard pass. No thanks.
This was what confused me most about Cassandra's betrayal. She acts like she's second best to everyone and no one ever notices her but Varian wanted to impress _her_ specifically with his creations. Someone saw her and saw Cassandra. Not Rapunzel's lady in waiting.
And she didn't appreciate it.
@@ajstudios9210yup
Varian at the start was so adorable, I couldn't help but fangirl squeal. To see his character development work in reverse of typical "I have flaws I can get better" to a series of unfortunate events (Haha that reference!) that distorted his view on the world and turned for the worse. It made me really sad his misery worsened. If he is to be redeemed, it will take a lot of effort to change his mind about the world.
Plus he is voiced by Jeremy Jordan so it makes his character even better
Frankly, Rapunzel holds a lot of the blame for Varian mindset. Not because she broke her promise during QfaD (That was an impossible situation and she did her best), but because she never once bothered to correct people that Varian didn't attack her.
That's a big reason why Varian is so deep in his "me against the whole world" mindset, since everyone in Corona treated him like a criminal before he ever did something.
I mean what kind of shitty friend you have to be that you just *let* people slander and frame your friend? And one that you apperently feel really guilty about turning away.
I wish that we could save Varian from his tragedy.
Captain Wyvern
*Appears*
‘I think the others are late’
Don’t worry he has been.
Even tho varian deserves the damn prison (cause lets say it, try to destroy a monarchy isn't the best thing to do) he does need a redemption arc, or at least a second conflict arc, he's too well written to let him go
ikr like i dont think hes in the right but i still want varian to have some sort of thing eventually
i dislike when people say that hes not in the wrong whatsoever and rapunzel is bad and stuff because rapunzel has to save her country and all
Agreed
@@YenNguyen-qj1mo im totally agreed with that, yes, varian is trying to save his father but he kinda overdone it (he literally kidnap the flipping queen)
In the other hand even though Rapunzel has her fault, she tried to fix it.
So yeah both of them is kinda innocent
@@YenNguyen-qj1mo
Right. Varian is in the wrong, but it's also his dad's fault. His dad shouldn't ignore the rocks. Varian was at least try to do something. I still like them both.
The monarchy deserved it. They were corrupt to the bone.
Varian legit was my FAVORITE character, I loved him. Seeing him be taken away just left me so shocked
varian: *exists*
entire fandom and everyone in the world: *I protecc*
I would pay to see Varian again.
*yes I'm serious.*
Nani Mo?!
Sorry I had to do it,it's Terou
Same
Welcome to season 3.
Comment if villains like these make you sad
😢
Poor Varian!
😭
Not sad, I get hard core depressed, lmao-
yEs
This child... This child needs help, help is going to be better than locking him up
He needs a good planed out redemption arc plEaSE
EVIL = Every Villain Is Lemons
EVILLLLLLL
Every Villain Is Lucky
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTT LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ROFLAO YOU EARNED YOURSELF POINTS FOR THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!XD
WAIT, MY NICKNAME IS LEMON :O
Avery Lopez-Baines hah! Love the reference.
More like..... Every Villain HAS Lemons lol
In Ralph Breaks The Internet, the princesses claim that their song is found after reflecting while staring at some form of water. Varian was walking through snow while reflecting. Snow is basically frozen water. Varian is a princess. 😘
😂
Well then maybe Varian would be great friends with Elsa.
Varian's such a cinnamon roll! I cried watching him turn to the darkness after he saw his dad encased in amber.🥺
I'm glad he got redemption and is currently fighting by Rapunzel's side.😍😁
A redemption arc would allow for further growth with his character and I hope we see it.
Varian is truly evil...
I mean, just look at his purple cookies
I want cookies now lol
I would prefer ham sandwiches
😍😍😍😍
Ciel3000
Frollo has nothing on him:/
Your really one sided it's not his fault
This is really great video on varian. I really hope varian will be able to redeem himself later on in this series as well as getting his father back.
He was also thrown into the potential deadly blizzard and Rapunzel didn’t object to it, she said not to hurt him but she could have said put him down.
I think he can be redeemed but only if he wants it and proves it with his actions. He shouldn't have blamed Rapunzel for not being able to help,as temporary queen while her parents were away everyone was looking to her to lead. She was in a no win situation and couldn't be two places at once,eventhough of she could've she would've been so no one was hurt.
NinjaGirlSakura1 actually he was understanding that she couldn't help during a state of emergency, but she had plenty of time and didn't go to see him.
+Tess B. Lichtman How was Rapunzel leading her nation through a crisis a mistake on any level?
Whatever mistakes she made, if any, pale before Varian's. He has to apologize, first and deeply, before she says anything.
@@Ares99999 Agreed
+Tess B. Lightman
Okay. Let's continue the analogy of the 'friend in distress'.
The friend calls you over a situation that he, himself, is responsible for. You're in a distressful situation yourself, so you're not in a mindset to help, as it's taking you everything to deal with your own distressful situation. You're sorry you can't help, but your situation is equal, if not greater, than his.
And the situation and its aftermath lasts long enough that it keeps you busy and preoccupied, and your friend's situation understandably slips from your mind. That's a very human response.
Your friend pretends to forgive and forget, but backstabs you later. At that point, had it ended there, it would have been almost okay. Yes, your friend is being disproportionate, but in his mind, this is fair. And there is a warped way to see it as a sort of 'getting even'. The difference is that you never intended to betray, and he clearly relished the idea. Oh, and that your 'betrayal' made more sense in context. Still, had it gone only that far, yeah, maybe.
But your friend doesn't stop there. He unleashes weapons on your city, hurting and killing people who had nothing to do with what was going on between you two. He mutates his pet into a monster to hurt and possibly kill people. He kidnaps your mother, then hooks you up to machine and pretty tortures you as he uses it. Oh, and he also makes a point that he will attack your city ANYWAY, even AFTER his father is free.
The machine proves one thing: even if you had gone to help, nothing could have been done. The situation was his fault, and there was no fixing it.
But your friend refuses to own up to his mistakes. He refuses to believe that HE could possibly have been WRONG. He insanely keeps believing that it is all YOUR fault, and outright tries to KILL you.
So, Rapunzel's wrongs: Refusing to help a friend in need because of many other people being in need, being slow in following-up on Varian's situation because of her own situation.
Varian's wrongs: Turns his back on all of his friends without even trying to understand their situation. Cruelly backstabs Rapunzel. Mutates his loyal pet and friend against his will. Attacks Corona Kidnaps the Queen (the most innocent party in the Royal Family). Promises to attack Corona again even after his father is freed. Tortures Rapunzel so hard the King is afraid it will kill her. Then completely flies off the handle and tries to outright kill Rapunzel.
So, given that Varian kidnapped Rapunzel's mom, tried to kill her other friends, tortured her and tried to kill her? No, by that point, she doesn't owe Varian squat. You don't owe someone who tortured you and outright tried to kill you. You just don't.
Turning away from someone because of a greater emergency is ENTIRELY forgivable.
Kidnapping, sequestering, torturing and trying to kill people is NOT.
Varian's wrongs are not in the same galaxy of wrong compared to Rapunzel. Why are you trying to make them even remotely equal? They're not. She stopped owing him the moment he kidnapped her mom.
My thing is , don't make promises that you can't keep
His fall to evil was so sad. Especially with the fact that this kid is so adorkable and I love him because of it
also, the fact that when what he thought would work to get his dad out didn’t work, the fact he had to watch Rapunzel have both of her parents with her, while he had practically nothing left was heartbreaking. he lived to make his father proud. in his mind, when he lost his father, he lost everything.
i would also like to point out in ready as i’ll ever be, when he says “i’ll make them hear me”, he’s being sung over
“Villains - are people, who stories never been told”
Tangled the Series proved that quote by showing the story of Varian through the season and the outcome of actions of main characters, how it’s affect people around them.
And notice, many villains did not had support around them when they were suffering and turning to evil, like Varian did not have anyone to talk about it (like close close friends or family member, I doubt that Rap, Cas and Eugene would be count as his best best friends (But I believe Varian believed they were his only friends so)).
Villains only gathers minions after the corrupt, since they stop trusting anyone.
Great Video explains the story of Varian!
The aspect that bothers me more, is the reason of Rapunzel for not helped Varian after the Storm and waited a lot time to finally go to pay him a visit, leaving him alone and scorned, because to insult to injury, Varian ended falsely accused by Nigel for "attacked" Rapunzel, and the "kind" princess don't ever bothers in silences nor discredits this false rumor, despite to knows that Varian only was begging her for help, yet she don't tried anything with this. I said this because in "One angry princess", when Attila, one of her friends, was accused for apparently vandalized the business of Monty, she put an impressive effort and interest to clean his name, saving him barely from rots in a prison, but when Varian was in a similar situation, she simply ignored him and leaves him by his own.
And after that Varian stole the flower, Rapunzel don't knows why he did this and refused to trusted in her.
Don't misunderstand, i knows that Varian and Rapunzel could reconciled, but i still thinks that the princess was selfish with Varian and a bad friend, for be indifferent with him during this crisis for the alchemist.
Also, regarding the possibles reasons to that Rapunzel don't helped inmediately Varian after the storm, i was thinking in two theories:
1. To considers that Varian was accused for "attacked" Rapunzel, possibly the king Frederic was one of the first people in get this news from the wicked Nigel, and to considers his overprotective nature, the king could restricts Rapunzel of even get near from Varian out of fear that he could harms her. And even if Rapunzel tried to leaves clear that Varian don't attacked her, possibly the king was still skeptical and as Rapunzel don't put any charges, the king chose don't arrests Varian and simply forbidded Rapunzel to see him, explaining her decision of stays in her room lamenting herself in the end of "Queen for a day", than makes something to make up Varian for refused the help earlier, and also could explains why she don't tries to visits him during her art classes despite to feels herself bad for it, and finally she chose to visits after the nightmare and that Varian asks her for help, regardless if her father allows her or not.
2. It is possible that Rapunzel was ignoring and avoiding intentionally Varian out of fear or out of shame, as she could be embarassed for broke a promise and/or she was afraid of that Varian lashes her out if she visits him after the storm and to considers the naive personality of Rapunzel, she thinks innocently that if Varian needs her help, he should asks her, leaving him by his own for a long time, as Varian couldn't even be safe if he goes to the castle town, as to be accused from "attacked" their beloved princess, the people could even attack violently Varian, spoiling even the possibility of asks for help to others, and causing that he developed a notable grudge and trusts issues not only toward Rapunzel and the royal family, but also toward all the kingdom for this unfair treatment. And possibly Rapunzel don't tried to discredit this rumor for thinks naively that this wasn't a big deal, as Varian was only accused, but not arrested, making that the fool princess don't bothered in put an end this rumor.
Nevertheless, whether her reasons were the number 1 or number 2, Rapunzel still took wrong decisions in each scenario, because in the case of the number 1, Rapunzel lacks the same determination like in "One angry princess" to defends Varian for a crime that he don't commited, and even she showed certain cowardly for allowed that her father leave Varian by his own without takes the initiative earlier to helps his friend, even if means disobeys the unfair order of the king. And in the case of the number 2, Rapunzel simply was a naive person that is incapable to understand the consequences of her actions, making her incapable to see the predicament of Varian, to considers his showed despair for help and failed to recognized the very negative implications of the false rumor to Varian. Meaning that in both scenarios, Rapunzel was a bad friend and partially responsible of the downfall of Varian.
PS. I thinks that Rapunzel already knows about this rumor, even before of "Quest for Varian", as Nigel mentioned this rumor to Rapunzel in this episode, yet she don't shows any notable reaction of surprise nor shock to hears about this, implying that she already knows the rumor.
Varian is a complex character he deserves a redemption arc Satlian got redeemed why can Varian
Stalyan
I DESPERATELY hope that Varian gets a redemption arc.
Yes, he went down a very dark path...
However, he has time to change it, I fully believe if they are able to figure out a way to free his Father by this journey they are on - Varian could easily be redeemed.
He's just a kid who wants his family, and that's understandable.
I swear Varian needs a hug from the fandom
yes he does
You know, he’d make a great Kingdom Hearts villain with how his heart was corrupted by darkness.
Yeah I imagine that as well and his boss fight would be cool.
I really hope Varian is redeemed. My heart would break if he was a forever villain, but I would still love him.
Varian is such a tragic villain, and you can completely understand his fall to evil. He’s only 14, his Dad was the only person he really had, and all he saw was Rapunzel break her promise and turn her back on him when he needed her the most. It’s not her fault obviously, the entire kingdom was in danger, but all Varian saw was a betrayal.
I definitely think he could be redeemed though, if he takes the chance. I hope he returns to the show soon, he’s such an interesting character.
Though I’d like to say that yes Varian’s fall was of his fault as well as he choose to do those things and attack Rapunzel. But I would also like to point out that even after the storm no one even cared to check up on him. He told Rapunzel his town was destroyed and his dad was in danger. Varian was alone in that time no parents no one. Anyone would have gone crazy with the rage he had. If Rapunzel is shown as some super kind and wonderful character she really let everyone down by basically abandoning Varian.
In the second season she completely forgot about him to. The only time he showed up was once in a vision depicted as evil. With rapunzel’s supposed kind natured personality I at least expected her to see Varian happy again with the statue, but she didn’t even bother all she cared about was her family and other friends. Rapunzel didn’t show any sign of being sorry or wanting to help him herself. She didn’t even go to the prison to ensure he was doing okay before she left. She never thinks of him at all in the time she’s gone and all she cares about is her own freedom and destiny. She got her happy ending in the end of season one and in season two got to explore and totally forgot and abandoned Varian just as Disney did. This was the whole reason became evil in the first place.
Who’s the real villain?
I don’t think it was all his fault but I agree with everything else you said here are more reasons i am on Varian side you don't have to read all of them if you don't want to
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/172061235790/why-i-dont-agree-with-all-the-varian-hate
shadowweirdo.tumblr.com/post/175819839992/i-dont-mean-to-shoot-anyone-down-for-liking
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/182928469797/hey-can-i-just-say-something-i-dont-want-to
villainsmatter.tumblr.com/post/175926900347/very-very-veeeeeery-long-post-where-i-rant-about
candiofoldcorona.tumblr.com/post/178225327558/variansmyson-haveyouheardofthathairshow
artistofmanyfandoms.tumblr.com/post/175402106767/okay-so
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/170670032883/id-like-to-talk-about-the-timeline-concerning
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/177412557408/if-you-havent-watched-the-episode-dont-read-this
nightingale101.tumblr.com/post/179387096026/so-its-3-am-i-cant-sleep-heres-some-thoughts
i-only-know-fandoms.tumblr.com/post/179231856961/im-sorry-but-in-king-pascal-rapunzel-can-almost
king-of-nyc.tumblr.com/post/182356737022/in-the-show-tangled-the-series-varian-is-often
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175328125730/i-made-the-mistake-of-attempting-to
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/175582330613/this-is-a-rant-on-the-current-episode-dont-give
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175094124825/sonnenstola-replied-to-your-post
codynaomiswire.tumblr.com/post/175140781084/believe-me-cass-i-want-answers-more-than
jays-disney-corner.tumblr.com/post/182635712295/kaede02mangaka-judging-too-soon-hi-i-did-this
Him showing doubt and hessitation and regret for the things he's done
chiscribbles4smiles.tumblr.com/post/171434384323/hi-its-me-back-at-it-again-with-another-varian
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/173399583880/jeremys-everything-in-ready-as
aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/169755955173/anxiouseugene-this-kid-is-so-desperate-its
aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/170130667228/girl-from-old-corona-village-what-should-i-feel
crimsontoska.tumblr.com/post/172830601985/observations?is_related_post=1
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/171529516887/codynaomiswire-tenshichan1013-tts-the
girl-from-old-corona-village.tumblr.com/post/169914210702/codynaomiswire-girl-from-old-corona-village
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78.media.tumblr.com/7b4df1baeab3e2ba8b37303580c42944/tumblr_p9mp1rIDTy1sf0d1no6_1280.png
melcecilia14.tumblr.com/post/178195145846/haveyouheardofthathairshow-on-the-real-though
askvarian-alchemyisforstuds.tumblr.com/post/178225327558/variansmyson-haveyouheardofthathairshow
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/168657453269/varian-good-bad-or-just-realistic-seems-to-be
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/169745566214/why-do-you-still-like-varian-i-mean-i-get-hes-a
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/173738615249/chiscribbles4smiles-something-to-consider-about
jessucakes.tumblr.com/post/177190866061/uniiiquehecrt-codynaomiswire
stelte23.tumblr.com/post/177582091238
glyph-of-wolves.tumblr.com/post/173653482504/glyph-of-wolves-tangled-the-series-watch-as
glyph-of-wolves.tumblr.com/post/173747758109/problem-with-varian-being-a-villain
predominantlynormal.tumblr.com/post/176747317690/lovejapan55-watch-the-show-though-and-he-was
variablevarian.tumblr.com/post/176863132163/predominantlynormal-the-varian-villain-arc
theironclockworkravenboy.tumblr.com/post/170704551024/fangirltothefullest-littlehobbit13-im-not
blackroseaki38.tumblr.com/post/174746375328/littlehobbit13-im-not-trying-to-excuse-any-of
takeabreathandsmile.tumblr.com/post/170768301820/toonlover13-gravityfallslover1-you-know-i
dazais-guardian-angel.tumblr.com/post/169796247520/i-dont-care-what-my-dad-says-but-the-females-in
dragonpride99.tumblr.com/post/173491888888/okay-im-not-trying-to-rant-but-look-at-how
docs.google.com/document/d/13R9Ry1OhQAYE4DvuPhtmdfOaCGPLHgDSyGMfVCui1dc/mobilebasic
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175849195515/wcrthpride-rapunzel-isolated-and-lonely-for
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/176398938770/honestly-id-love-to-read-your-thoughts-on-the
i-am-narcoleptic.tumblr.com/post/168912773141/what-she-says-im-fine-what-she-means-rapunzel
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/171261885737/i-been-thinking-recently-of-how-varian-just-really
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/173134933212/starxapple-lol-im-gonna-cry-thinking-about-how
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169739651710/also-look-i-understand-that-rapunzel-was-going
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169685948905/i-mean-not-to-be-that-guy-but-rapunzel-did-say
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169742133605/like-the-king-a-competent-adult-was-selfish
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174469131579/justice-for-varian-rant
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174247003654/varian-after-months-of-trying-every-possible
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174165758449/gravityfallslover1-ofekma-about-varians
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174242381639
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174248136309/what-do-you-mean-its-not-what-happened
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/174763410748/varian-only-do-things-because-he-wants-to-impress
girl-from-old-corona-village.tumblr.com/post/174240114377
sparkycanteven.tumblr.com/post/169674053696/honor-among-thieves-littlehobbit13-rapunzel
the-alchemical-key.tumblr.com/post/169849898004/you-know-theres-been-something-on-my-mind
the-alchemical-key.tumblr.com/post/173965604114
pftones3482.tumblr.com/post/169723403204/all-the-people-shitting-on-varian-literally
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/174120949298/i-am-sick-of-this
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169799264040/dittolicous-im-rewatching-the-sundrop-special-and
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169758020315/omfg-even-on-the-freakin-tvtropes-pages-all-the
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169760077280/dittolicous-lastoneout-anarkyandnakama
He was also thrown into a snow storm and Raps didn’t stop the rumors that he attacked her. Imagine if you were a young teenage boy and you couldn’t buy food or anything because everyone hates you for something that never happened. The king also ran him out of his home. Really king Fredrick is the true villain here. He’s irresponsible and is more concerned about looking good then doing problems.
@@lelduck6388 this always gives me question what did he eat all this months alone, if the town hate him and rocks destroyed almost everything in town to eat? And where did he go if some hate crowds came for him
I think Varian is the most shocking antagonist I have ever seen. I never saw it coming. It really came as a surprise. I really thought Varian wouldn't have such a big role in the show but I'm so glad he does. Definitely hoping the show will bring him back and I think they will. Because so many fans want it and his story definitely hasn't finished yet.
He is one of my favorite Disney villain. One of my other favorites is David Xsanatos from Gargoyles.
And that's why Varien will always be my favorite character
I only watched some episodes (I don't mind spoilers) and he became my favorite character in the series the moment he appeared on screen 😍
What happened to him was very unfair and right down depressing. It's true that Rapunzel was busy and overwhelmed with her responsibilities. But it's a fact that Varian dropped Everything and didn't hesitate one second to help his friends the moment they needed him. It's only natural he would expect them to do the same for him... But no. And then, of course, he became vengeful. I can't say he isn't to blame for what he did after with all those attacks to Corona. But he had been so desperate, sad and scared and no one helped him that it's understandable he would be deeply troubled. Plus he is only a child... Children do irrational stuff when they are scared and lost.
Lots of love to my boi Varian and I hope he gets a redemption arc. ❤
Also, props to Isaac for his awesome as heck video as usual. 💕
Varian was my favourite too the minute i saw him
The kid was thrown into a blizzard and forgotten about in the aftermath. He was left alone for months, he probably went a little crazy, you can hardly blame him. He was definitely having a mental breakdown after not being able to save his father. The murder thing wasn’t cool, but the robot and kidnapping from his preceptive most likely seemed like the only way to be heard. He has to send a lantern to Rapunzel because he was being attacked, and considering the rumor he attacked her the guards wouldn’t let him see her directly. He didn’t have many options.
I got here because of his "Ready As I'll Ever Be" song.....but really happy to learn of backstory of character
I have a feeling he will get a redemption arc
he might did stupid stuff, but he's just a kid who does things he think that's right
and HE NEEDS LOVE
Varian was wronged real bad. He was thrown into a deadly blizzard by the guards, they could have let him stay there but no. That and the fact that he was alone for months with no care. He’s called a kid in the series so it’s obvious he shouldn’t be taking care of himself. The world failed him. That doesn’t justify murder, but he isn’t the only one to blame.
Great video Wotso its a sad one though such a poor kiddo he lost his dad 💔
This video makes me feel so sad , I'm so worried about the outcome for Varian in the next season
Hope he stays a villain, it fits him.
He's like this Tokyo Ghoul quote: "I was born to be an angel but fate made me a demon"
OML YES!!
@@Just_Hyupi OMG I didn't expect to find another anime fan here! (I haven't watched Tokyo Ghoul but there's a Waterstones near me and last time I checked they've got the manga!😀)
@@Just_Hyupi before I tell you what I'm thinking, do you know what's happened in the latest episode of Tangled the Series?
@@gothnerd887 Ya I know what happened in the latest episode of tangled cass done yeeted the moon stone into herself turning into ultra sans and now she gonna give Raps a *bad time*
@@gothnerd887 anyways what you thinking?
You forgot the key moment that truly pushed him over the edge. The fact that rapunzel keeps promising to help him but never keeps those promises. Not to mention she never goes to check on him after the storm. Repunzel had plenty of moments where she could have helped him but she doesn't. She always made time for the others but never varian. She never had time to help someone who truly needed her. She turned him into a villian in my opinion. She also allowed the people to believe that he attacked her during the storm when all he did was beg her for her help. He never attacked her. Yet not once does she correct any of them. Nor does she check on him. She only ever spoke to him when she needed something. Not once does she visit him just to visit. It's always because she needs something. She was absolutely horrible to varian. Always brushing him off until it was time for her to cash in another favor.
They will eventually figure out a way to free Varian's dad, which won't solve everything instantly, but will definitely help Varian to start going in the right direction again.
I have been waiting for this video! Varian is such a complex character and I really enjoy him! I really didn't like how people didn't appreciate his ideas. I can understand how he ended up the way he did.
I relate to Varian's determination to do something about the things he believes in. I really hope to see him again soon.
Short answer:
Everyone ignored and refused to help him
Yes
It has been +9 months since it all ended BUT I DON'T CARE. This character is the most genius creation Disney has ever done. I'm going to explain why:
- He is realistic. He sort of reminds us of the Enlightment period when science got a spotlight in Europe.
-He fights at least a bit against Rapunzel's father and his "dictatorship" ways. Rapunzel does mention that he emprisioned a lot of his workers because of minor problems.
- He shows that royalty is just a bunch of entitled people who like to oppress people and pretend they hear the population. (I LOVE his sarcastic tone when saying your highness).
- He is a self made boy/man. He is arguably the strongest person in Corona after Rapunzel loses her powers.
-He is the only one with a long lasting TRUE career. Ok Rapunzel may be a queen...but she is not exactly the most intelligent in Europe and has the brain and maturity to rule as a 5 years old. She has no true preparation in war, military, knowledge.... and she didn't get a good marriage.
Way to go Varian!
Wow! I've never seen someone thinking too deep about Varian! And you're right. Way to go Juliana ju!
Varian is such a good written villain! to see him go from a sweet nice boy to a full on bad guy, it’s pretty awesome! also Jeremy Jordan voice acts him and that singing voice though!
I think we would all break down and lash out if we lost the only parent we've known and loved our entire lives and the people we reach out to do nothing to help like Varian did.
Varian is my favorite character lel 😍💕
Same
I absolutely love and relate to Varian. Enthusiastic, smart, perseveres, and was constantly willing to put forth effort, to redeem himself! And of course he succeeds in redeeming himself, for his past misdeeds
I know she had her reasons but Rapunzel putting Varian so low on her list of priorities was kind of messed up.
She didn’t have good reasons to not check on him for months when everything was fine
here are more reasons i am on Varian side you don't have to read all of them if you don't want to
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/172061235790/why-i-dont-agree-with-all-the-varian-hate
shadowweirdo.tumblr.com/post/175819839992/i-dont-mean-to-shoot-anyone-down-for-liking
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/182928469797/hey-can-i-just-say-something-i-dont-want-to
villainsmatter.tumblr.com/post/175926900347/very-very-veeeeeery-long-post-where-i-rant-about
artistofmanyfandoms.tumblr.com/post/175402106767/okay-so
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/170670032883/id-like-to-talk-about-the-timeline-concerning
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/177412557408/if-you-havent-watched-the-episode-dont-read-this
nightingale101.tumblr.com/post/179387096026/so-its-3-am-i-cant-sleep-heres-some-thoughts
i-only-know-fandoms.tumblr.com/post/179231856961/im-sorry-but-in-king-pascal-rapunzel-can-almost
king-of-nyc.tumblr.com/post/182356737022/in-the-show-tangled-the-series-varian-is-often
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175328125730/i-made-the-mistake-of-attempting-to
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/175582330613/this-is-a-rant-on-the-current-episode-dont-give
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175094124825/sonnenstola-replied-to-your-post
codynaomiswire.tumblr.com/post/175140781084/believe-me-cass-i-want-answers-more-than
jays-disney-corner.tumblr.com/post/182635712295/kaede02mangaka-judging-too-soon-hi-i-did-this
Him showing doubt and hessitation and regret for the things he's done
chiscribbles4smiles.tumblr.com/post/171434384323/hi-its-me-back-at-it-again-with-another-varian
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/173399583880/jeremys-everything-in-ready-as
aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/169755955173/anxiouseugene-this-kid-is-so-desperate-its
aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/170130667228/girl-from-old-corona-village-what-should-i-feel
crimsontoska.tumblr.com/post/172830601985/observations?is_related_post=1
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/171529516887/codynaomiswire-tenshichan1013-tts-the
girl-from-old-corona-village.tumblr.com/post/169914210702/codynaomiswire-girl-from-old-corona-village
78.media.tumblr.com/764568b33bf00be8fc5a9c844b2e0261/tumblr_p9mp1rIDTy1sf0d1no5_1280.png
78.media.tumblr.com/7b4df1baeab3e2ba8b37303580c42944/tumblr_p9mp1rIDTy1sf0d1no6_1280.png
melcecilia14.tumblr.com/post/178195145846/haveyouheardofthathairshow-on-the-real-though
askvarian-alchemyisforstuds.tumblr.com/post/178225327558/variansmyson-haveyouheardofthathairshow
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/168657453269/varian-good-bad-or-just-realistic-seems-to-be
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/169745566214/why-do-you-still-like-varian-i-mean-i-get-hes-a
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/173738615249/chiscribbles4smiles-something-to-consider-about
jessucakes.tumblr.com/post/177190866061/uniiiquehecrt-codynaomiswire
estelle132.tumblr.com/post/177582091238/jessucakes-something-i-find-pretty-interesting
glyph-of-wolves.tumblr.com/post/173653482504/glyph-of-wolves-tangled-the-series-watch-as
glyph-of-wolves.tumblr.com/post/173747758109/problem-with-varian-being-a-villain
predominantlynormal.tumblr.com/post/176747317690/lovejapan55-watch-the-show-though-and-he-was
variablevarian.tumblr.com/post/176863132163/predominantlynormal-the-varian-villain-arc
theironclockworkravenboy.tumblr.com/post/170704551024/fangirltothefullest-littlehobbit13-im-not
blackroseaki38.tumblr.com/post/174746375328/littlehobbit13-im-not-trying-to-excuse-any-of
takeabreathandsmile.tumblr.com/post/170768301820/toonlover13-gravityfallslover1-you-know-i
dazais-guardian-angel.tumblr.com/post/169796247520/i-dont-care-what-my-dad-says-but-the-females-in
dragonpride99.tumblr.com/post/173491888888/okay-im-not-trying-to-rant-but-look-at-how
docs.google.com/document/d/13R9Ry1OhQAYE4DvuPhtmdfOaCGPLHgDSyGMfVCui1dc/mobilebasic
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175849195515/wcrthpride-rapunzel-isolated-and-lonely-for
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/176398938770/honestly-id-love-to-read-your-thoughts-on-the
i-am-narcoleptic.tumblr.com/post/168912773141/what-she-says-im-fine-what-she-means-rapunzel
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/171261885737/i-been-thinking-recently-of-how-varian-just-really
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/173134933212/starxapple-lol-im-gonna-cry-thinking-about-how
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169739651710/also-look-i-understand-that-rapunzel-was-going
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169685948905/i-mean-not-to-be-that-guy-but-rapunzel-did-say
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169742133605/like-the-king-a-competent-adult-was-selfish
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174469131579/justice-for-varian-rant
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174247003654/varian-after-months-of-trying-every-possible
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174165758449/gravityfallslover1-ofekma-about-varians
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174242381639
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174248136309/what-do-you-mean-its-not-what-happened
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/174763410748/varian-only-do-things-because-he-wants-to-impress
girl-from-old-corona-village.tumblr.com/post/174240114377
sparkycanteven.tumblr.com/post/169674053696/honor-among-thieves-littlehobbit13-rapunzel
the-alchemical-key.tumblr.com/post/169849898004/you-know-theres-been-something-on-my-mind
the-alchemical-key.tumblr.com/post/173965604114
pftones3482.tumblr.com/post/169723403204/all-the-people-shitting-on-varian-literally
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/174120949298/i-am-sick-of-this
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169799264040/dittolicous-im-rewatching-the-sundrop-special-and
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169758020315/omfg-even-on-the-freakin-tvtropes-pages-all-the
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169760077280/dittolicous-lastoneout-anarkyandnakama
Varian is prove of my beliefs that there are no evil people. Just people who have been hurt and long for a way to take away the pain.
5:18 Varian treks through the blizzard TWICE. He was kicked out of the castle and had to walk all the way back home. The show glossed over that fact
Yeah there is so much they glossed over it pisses me off
here are reasons i am on Varian side you don't have to read all of them if you don't want to
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/172061235790/why-i-dont-agree-with-all-the-varian-hate
shadowweirdo.tumblr.com/post/175819839992/i-dont-mean-to-shoot-anyone-down-for-liking
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/182928469797/hey-can-i-just-say-something-i-dont-want-to
villainsmatter.tumblr.com/post/175926900347/very-very-veeeeeery-long-post-where-i-rant-about
artistofmanyfandoms.tumblr.com/post/175402106767/okay-so
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/170670032883/id-like-to-talk-about-the-timeline-concerning
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/177412557408/if-you-havent-watched-the-episode-dont-read-this
nightingale101.tumblr.com/post/179387096026/so-its-3-am-i-cant-sleep-heres-some-thoughts
i-only-know-fandoms.tumblr.com/post/179231856961/im-sorry-but-in-king-pascal-rapunzel-can-almost
king-of-nyc.tumblr.com/post/182356737022/in-the-show-tangled-the-series-varian-is-often
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175328125730/i-made-the-mistake-of-attempting-to
lovejapan55.tumblr.com/post/175582330613/this-is-a-rant-on-the-current-episode-dont-give
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175094124825/sonnenstola-replied-to-your-post
codynaomiswire.tumblr.com/post/175140781084/believe-me-cass-i-want-answers-more-than
jays-disney-corner.tumblr.com/post/182635712295/kaede02mangaka-judging-too-soon-hi-i-did-this
Him showing doubt and hessitation and regret for the things he's done
chiscribbles4smiles.tumblr.com/post/171434384323/hi-its-me-back-at-it-again-with-another-varian
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/173399583880/jeremys-everything-in-ready-as
aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/169755955173/anxiouseugene-this-kid-is-so-desperate-its
aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/170130667228/girl-from-old-corona-village-what-should-i-feel
crimsontoska.tumblr.com/post/172830601985/observations?is_related_post=1
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/171529516887/codynaomiswire-tenshichan1013-tts-the
girl-from-old-corona-village.tumblr.com/post/169914210702/codynaomiswire-girl-from-old-corona-village
78.media.tumblr.com/764568b33bf00be8fc5a9c844b2e0261/tumblr_p9mp1rIDTy1sf0d1no5_1280.png
78.media.tumblr.com/7b4df1baeab3e2ba8b37303580c42944/tumblr_p9mp1rIDTy1sf0d1no6_1280.png
melcecilia14.tumblr.com/post/178195145846/haveyouheardofthathairshow-on-the-real-though
askvarian-alchemyisforstuds.tumblr.com/post/178225327558/variansmyson-haveyouheardofthathairshow
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/168657453269/varian-good-bad-or-just-realistic-seems-to-be
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/169745566214/why-do-you-still-like-varian-i-mean-i-get-hes-a
littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/173738615249/chiscribbles4smiles-something-to-consider-about
jessucakes.tumblr.com/post/177190866061/uniiiquehecrt-codynaomiswire
estelle132.tumblr.com/post/177582091238/jessucakes-something-i-find-pretty-interesting
glyph-of-wolves.tumblr.com/post/173653482504/glyph-of-wolves-tangled-the-series-watch-as
glyph-of-wolves.tumblr.com/post/173747758109/problem-with-varian-being-a-villain
predominantlynormal.tumblr.com/post/176747317690/lovejapan55-watch-the-show-though-and-he-was
variablevarian.tumblr.com/post/176863132163/predominantlynormal-the-varian-villain-arc
theironclockworkravenboy.tumblr.com/post/170704551024/fangirltothefullest-littlehobbit13-im-not
blackroseaki38.tumblr.com/post/174746375328/littlehobbit13-im-not-trying-to-excuse-any-of
takeabreathandsmile.tumblr.com/post/170768301820/toonlover13-gravityfallslover1-you-know-i
dazais-guardian-angel.tumblr.com/post/169796247520/i-dont-care-what-my-dad-says-but-the-females-in
dragonpride99.tumblr.com/post/173491888888/okay-im-not-trying-to-rant-but-look-at-how
docs.google.com/document/d/13R9Ry1OhQAYE4DvuPhtmdfOaCGPLHgDSyGMfVCui1dc/mobilebasic
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/175849195515/wcrthpride-rapunzel-isolated-and-lonely-for
wcrthpride.tumblr.com/post/176398938770/honestly-id-love-to-read-your-thoughts-on-the
i-am-narcoleptic.tumblr.com/post/168912773141/what-she-says-im-fine-what-she-means-rapunzel
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/171261885737/i-been-thinking-recently-of-how-varian-just-really
tangled-lover-165.tumblr.com/post/173134933212/starxapple-lol-im-gonna-cry-thinking-about-how
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169739651710/also-look-i-understand-that-rapunzel-was-going
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169685948905/i-mean-not-to-be-that-guy-but-rapunzel-did-say
lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169742133605/like-the-king-a-competent-adult-was-selfish
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174469131579/justice-for-varian-rant
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174247003654/varian-after-months-of-trying-every-possible
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174165758449/gravityfallslover1-ofekma-about-varians
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174242381639
ofekma.tumblr.com/post/174248136309/what-do-you-mean-its-not-what-happened
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I liked the way he went down fighting and was only redeemed after a while in jail, while Cass was taken down by love and friendship. It makes Varian cooler.
Cassandra's redemption frustrates me. She was coddled way too much, all because she is the main character's bestie.
I don’t even watch this show but the more I’ve learned about this little dude I just want to hug him
Varian is one of the best Disney villains, more so than any of the main Disney Princess movies.
His motivation stems from betrayal and guilt, from his own realization that his father was right all along.
The true tragedy is, even if his father is released, there is no possible way he would ever be proud of the person his son has become.
Is it sad that I want to cry when he sings? The meaning of the songs are so sad and meaningful. I just want to hug him!!
Ok but like if I were Varian I would turn evil too. All Varian wanted was help because his father was in danger and the guards literally dragged him out and threw him into a snow storm while Rapunzel did nothing but stand there. Then she acts SHOCKED that he betrays her. Like of course he would! When he needed her the most she betrayed him. What goes around comes around.
In the song ready as I’ll ever be he says ‘I’ll make them hear me’ which proves he just wanted to be listened to and free his father
It certainly didn't help that despite Varien breaking down, sobbing about how his plan with Rapunzel didn't work and his father was still stuck... Rapunzel has her "happy ending" and freakin hugs her family in front of him with smiles on their faces... That's not cool, I'd bust out the robot too 9:20
I must say that Varian hits home with me a bit too hard. I try and support my friends and family but each time I reach out to them for help (as they do with me) I get told to deal with it myself. This is the biggest reason I don't trust people in doing things and Varian is similar that no one would listen, try to understand and help him to create something that would make his father proud. Instead they turn their backs on him and leave him in the grip of darkness. No one wanted to help and I don't blame him for losing faith in other people. With all that though, he still has to answer for his mistakes. Everyone does.
VARIAN hurt me when he turns evil
I got spoiled for Varian turning evil. It’s how I discovered the show through Ready As I’ll Ever Be. Totally worth it I adore this show
I would love it if Varian managed to be redeemed. I was first introduced to Varian in the episode he went on the attack and I just fell in love with his character, I especially loved his self acknowledgement as the bad guy. The redemption of an antagonist is one of my favorite things to watch happen, there's something interesting about the bad guy playing hero that appeals to me
Oh my God. I’ve been looking everywhere for a deep dive on this character. I was so happy and confused how I missed this, but I found out it was uploaded today, April 2, 2019! Thank you so much!!! I love character analysis videos and I love this character!
I fell in love with Varian’s character when he was first introduced. When I saw him turn evil, I was so shocked! I felt really bad for him though. I hope we see him again and that he’ll turn good again.
Anyway,
Love your videos!
This video has no dislikes cause varians perfect 👌💖❤️
It have 7 dislikes😐
Honestly Varian was my favorite. I loved the sweet and innocence and I loved it when he started to corrupt. I felt bad for him because I could connect with him on many levels and when he broke I couldn't help but see myself. I felt so sorry for him and hated watching him be taken down by the ones he thought he loved. I wish he had one honestly and helped his father. Rapunzel had abandoned him when he needed help even after the many many times he had helped her. No one hurts my little strawberry like that. I really want to see more from him. Maybe on future episodes he will come back and get the revenge on the ones who hurt him.
Every so often I rewatch this series and then some videos on it, including a bunch of yours. It’s one of my favorite shows and I’m glad someone likes it as much as I do :D
I believe his almost immediate turn to evil has to do with the personality changing potion he found... he obviously knew what it was when he used it against Rapunzel and her allies. So, how did he know what it did? He tested it on himself. I would love it if you did a theory on that! ❤️
The mood potion would also have reversed his desire to make his father proud or even free him so unlikely
and if it was the truth potion Im not really sure how he managed to lie to Rapunzel.
Oh my god I’m literally crying so much😭 HE WAS ONLY 14! He didn’t deserve any of this. He used to be such a sweet boy😢😭
I saw the thumbnail and cried
Then he said "sweet boi" and "make you proud" and cried some more
Does anyone else want Varian back in the show
I loved Varian now disney broke my heart by turning the sweet boy evil .-. WHY DISNEY WHY
It was heart breaking to see him become evil😭i just wish he can turn back into his sweet personality an intilagint and careing person in season 3 and become friends with repanzel💌 again and also still can have a crush on Cassandra🤗💜💜💕💕💙💙
ugh this video is so good! it's making me want to rewatch the series again!!
I never really paid too much attention on Varian's transformation. like, I didn't really connect the dots, but now that you've made a video on Varian and his character arc, I wanna go back and see how it all plays out! Varian is probably my favorite character in the series, and knowing more about him really helps me appreciate his character and story a whole lot more.
I really hope they bring him back. as a writer, I appreciate just how much Varian as a character evolves from one of Rapunzel's friends and a sweet, gentle protagonist to the main antagonist.
And to think a Varian spinoff series was rejected by Disney!
Clearly Disney underestimates the buying power of angsty teens and former angsty teens.
I fully agree with this statement
I want to see what he would look like in the 3D models of characters!
I always just assumed he looked like hiro from big hero 6 with goggles 😂
Yes
People keep saying that Rapunzel had too much responsibility in Corona to help Varian, but I disagree. Maybe she couldn’t have gone, but there was nothing stopping her from sending someone else. She could have just sent a friend, stayed where she was, and none of this would have happened. She didn’t even stop the guards from dragging Varian away because he “attacked” her. She just stood and watched. How could he not be the victim here?
He's such a well written character and if they drop him the entire fandom will scream