I also really enjoyed Klarion in *"Justice League: Action"* ... He appears in 2 of my favorite episodes, _"Trick or Threat"_ and _"Supernatural Adventures in Babysitting"_ , voiced by Noel Fisher (aka Brainiac 5 from "Justice League vs Fatal 5" and Gogo Shoto in "Batman Unlimited: Monster Mayhem") JL:A (2016-2018) is such a great show, it's a shame that no one ever talks about it. It's one of Kevin Conroy's last "big" roles as Batman, and since he's in half the episodes it would be a shame to miss that performance.
I was honestly never too fond of him there. He was made too powerful... not to mention: That show was *terrible* at balancing chaos and order power wise... and later: Also terrible at balancing the violent parts.
Klarion is exactly what a selfish child with godlike powers should be like. Despite being potentially centuries old, he never stopped being a brat, his emotional maturity tied to his physical. To quote a line from the webcomic The Fancy Adventures of Jack Cannon: "Kids with godpowers. Children playing with nuclear bombs. You should be terrified."
Reminds me of why I'm into magical girls, for seeing initially nervous yet ultimately selfless kids (at most) having powers that indirectly make them covert messiahs to the places and peoples they encounter is something to behold, unlike the cut-and-dry Super Sentai/Power Rangers.
Indeed, the only reason Batman is able to keep up with Klarion is because he's a kid who doesn't use his overwhelming magic power to simply delete Bats. Nope, he wants cake!
@@megalosaurusstudios2The Collector from the owl house. He’s both my profile pic and inspiration for my username. He’s basically Klarion but far more innocent and seemingly younger. And yes, as referenced above, he IS an IPad kid.
I actually really like Klarion, at least the Young Justice version. There’s something incredibly entertaining about an all powerful ancient being of chaos with the maturity of an 8 year old.
I was certain that someone would say that they liked Klarion because of his appearance in Young Justice, I just didn't think it'd be the first comment! Maybe I underestimate his popularity.
@@SerumLake I think it's more the difference between "liking Klarian as a character" and "liking Klarian" as a concept as well. Hehe you were unusually dismissive of him because "his story didn't have an impact" but in this day where kids get internet access and act unusually spoiled and dangerous... it's arguably one of the most impactful fears any parent has, that thier kid would end up being like him when they take out thier phone. Similarly as I noted in another video, The writers of BTAS seem to have it out against anthropomorphic characters (or "Furry" if you will) as they always depict them as evil or the antithesis of what a good person should be, even in the most sympathetic cases (like Justice League's Cheetah who was ashamed of her feline form until Batman convinced her not to be hard on herself, ONLY to ultimately kill her off as a traitor because she kissed Batman, and the whole "Splicers" episode of Batman Beyond effectively making it sound like Furries were terrible people who couldn't be trusted cause they're practially drug addicts. ironically judging a book by it's cover, something the otherwise very left leaning WB is normally against. Kind of a shame they keep going that route in this series.... It took until Caped Crusader to finally decide "Maybe Killer Croc shouldn't automatically be evil just because he's a scaley..... as that seemed to be the only reason they made him evil originally, despite being a victim of bullying, he was "just evil cause he's a monster". and I'm sure Klarian is a case of "DOn't think because he's an 8 year old boy means he isn't wicked and unhinged.... At least the cat survives, but I do wish Batman used the mark on her forehead to help her no longer be a tool for evil instead of just making a "Hah, I told a woman to sit cause she's a cat" joke.....
Please consider covering Young Justice Klarion. He’s a more well-rounded character there. Still evil and still a brat, but he had a much larger effect on that world and was partially responsible for the creation of Dr. Fate.
Well, some redeeming quality: In a weird crossover with DC Comics and Loony Tunes which pitted Catwoman against Black Canary, alongside Sylvester and Tweety, Klarion ends up being a contributor for good winning out. Basically in a gathering of witches and other magic oriented DC characters a version of Witch Hazel enacts a wager of cosmic-level stakes between cat-kind and bird-kind: That Sylvester and Tweety must battle it out, and whichever wins everything cat or bird related in the universe will cease to be, be it biological, magical or thematic, hence Catwoman and Black Canary. At the height pretty much every cat and bird themed superhero and villain is conjured to duke it out, but Klarion ends up being one of the individuals who calls for this silly wager to end, namely because he didn't want to lose Teekl, even if he himself would not be affected by the wager.
One point regarding Teekl and their willingness to be grabbed, handled, and so on with Klarion is that it implies a degree of closeness. That even outside the arrangement of being a familiar Teekl views Klarion as their favorite person. And honestly the way Young Justice and especially Phantoms went on to apply that is lovely. Showing that despite being a chaotic little shit with little regard for anyone else he adores his familiar like any good pet owner.
I do definitely agree that the DCAU version of Klarion and his plan was quite simplistic and his overall demeanour and presence is very simple and at times irritating. I'm however a massive fan Young Justice's Klarion as an actual Lord of Chaos and the casting Thom Adcox-Hernandez I thought was pitch perfect and is easily the voice I always think for the character.
I love how by the time of Batman Beyond, Bruce admits he’s pretty much seen everything surrounding the supernatural and isn’t a the skeptic that people would think someone as logical as him would be. Also I second that the Young Justice version of Klarion rocks. He has bigger ambitions and is more deliciously malicious. I did find him quite a weak villain in the DCAU for your listed reasons of being nothing but a brat with some power
In reading those early Demon comics, I think this adaptation of Klarion is pretty faithful to the source material. Young Justice’s Klarion, as an agent of chaos opposing Dr Fate (an agent of order) is more fleshed out. But I did not like it when Teekl was killed!
@@SerumLake I did like how Klarion's second (that we know of) familiar-anchor is basically a new-born kitten...with striking similarities to the original Teekl, and that Klarion obviously contradicted himself when he was going to name them. It also reminds me of a theory I heard; the 'anchor' to keep an all powerful being in this level of reality for the order lord we know (Dr Fate) is a different person every time (a bit of chaos to balance the order) who becomes an avatar for the helm. The anchor for the well know chaos lord in the show, Klarion, is seemingly the same cat name and all. The one bit of 'order' in Klarion's existence
Young Justice was my first exposure to Klarion, and I honestly loved him in it. He's delightfully wicked yet also very silly. His DCAU counterpart is pretty okay though, just a bit more forgettable in comparison.
I have owned many cats who love being carried. Only two loved being carried around other people. One of them was a crippled runt, so he knew running was a fool's errand anyway. The other one had terrible worms until I saved her, so she acted more like a rescue dog than a cat.
The Demon Within is one of my favourite episodes. I wanted Klarion to wrecked every time he opened his smug mouth. Plus the animation for Etrigan's transformation has always been one of my favourite moments in B:TAS
Klarion is my absolute favorite magic user in all of DC. I love his betrayal in Young Justice. My only issue is that Klarion is much stronger than what any form of media has shown us. They don't need to nerf him DC has plenty of strong magic users. Just to name a few we have Zatana, Etrigan, Doctor Fate & John Constantine. There are a lot more so he has plenty of opponents that can give him a good fight at full power.
We love our horror goofy goth boy. Klarion may not be as engaging but Young Justice made him so terrifying yet hilarious. Sure Young Justice is not the same anymore but Klarion was the only few things good about the modern seeasons. He's hammy, comical and fun.
Honestly after Young Justice, I do feel Klarion can be used well if you play up to the maliciousness of his antics. Ironically Mordred from the Justice League cartoon feels like how a well done Klarion could be as an antagonisr
I originally enjoyed this episode more for Blood than Klarion. Klarion himself got a much more interesting update in later iterations, especially Young Justice. Which honestly improves this episode for me retroactively.
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Part of me likes this version and the Kirby version for just being a comically evil magic wielder; he’s a threat to a world beyond his dimension but given his age and personality, Klarion comedically subverts the chaotic villain role by simply using his powers for sadistic yet childish schemes.
As someone with a rough relation with Young Justice(I never liked making Zatanna a teenager) I do have to admit the version of Klarion from that show was much more fleshed out than in TAS who sadly only got one episode for himself
klarion becomes good if he is considered Dr Fates opposite. dr fate lord of order and klarion lord of chaos. makes both villians and heros. dark sied and dr fate would get along while klarion would hate dark sied. klarion likes joker, creeper, two face, dr fate would hate all three. this allows klarion to be a pest to hero's villians alike since he could start rebellions and revolts everywhere (hawk & dove could be soldiers in chaos order war). dr fate could cause enslavement because it enforces order. klarion need to be fleshed out to be like Nezha legend. Dr fate cold dragon king.
"The Demon Within" was one of those Batman episodes that felt out of place to me, especially introducing these magical characters who Batman was somehow already familiar with. Superman's "The Hand of Fate" left me feeling equally as lost when Superman showed instant familiarity with Doctor Fate. It felt like I missed an episode somewhere.
The STAS episode, Hand of Fate, aired a few months before this which featured Doctor Fate. As to tie back to your video "How SUperman changed the world", the STAS show probably opened the floodgates for more overt DC world expansions which included the supernatural.
It's interesting how insular the supernatural things remained in a way. It would have been interesting to see how the New Batman Adventures rogues gallery would have acted or what they would have done if even for a single episode they were clued in on sorcery/sorcerers being a reality. Outside of Poison Ivy, who already is a meta human with powers. I can already hear Mark Hamill reciting some form of pixie dust joke line in my head writing this. And no, I don't mean Emperor Joker grade stuff. More like just the clown getting his hands on some minor magical doodads to throw into the ring at a moment when it amuses him. And the Joker and JL style snarky Etrigan being in the same room bantering as all heck breaks loose would have been very amusing, plus provide a good set up for quite a many gags. Not to mention how other rogues gallery members would react to and behave in the presence of Etrigan.
You know, another little fun.Fact is, after he gets over his whole villain phase.He actually joins the teen titans for a bit I wish I could remember what comic it was But yeah, he was essentially a swap out for raven.
Besides Klarion, there is Mordred, the son of Morgan La Fey, from Justice League and Justice League Unlimited. I love the JLU episode, " Kids Stuff", where Mordred steals a medallion and uses it's magic to banish all the adults to another dimension so that he will be the king of an adult free world! Also, he turned Etrigan into a baby demon!
If I had to guess, I think Klarion keeps possessing his barber in order to get the hairstyle he wants, and the barber has to watch while they involuntarily make that atrocious haircut.
Godlike power and childlike immaturity are a deadly combination, but also a very entertaining one. See also: Majin Buu. Episode definitely felt like the Hand of Fate from the Superman animated series, with our hero forced to ask the aid of a sorcerer to handle a dangerous magical threat they're completely unversed in.
True Story: Paul Dini pitched the Sandman story after nearly dying from being mugged and getting the crap beaten out of him after being friend zoned by this 3rd-rate actress. It was basically the first step in his recovery after dealing with all that (including nearly killing himself the year before by cutting himself with his Emmy after another actress zoned him) He talks about it in a cool comic about that time period in his life.
I wouldn't call him a favorite, but as someone with a lot of power and little real-world experience, I thought they treated him as to be expected. Unlike Wil Riker, who learned a lesson when given Q powers, Klariin hadcyet to learn his. There is a potential redemption arc there, which I doubt they will ever get to.
Klarion The Witchboy, young justice turn him into a god of chaos, which I think is the best version of him, i know a good video can't wait for the next one.
I liked this episode everything about it was a nice change of pace. Especially Karion, in a rogues gallery filled with sympathetic villians and ruthless sociopath's, it was nice to have a villian who was just simply a spoiled brat.
I think Young Justice did a better take on the character, but when I first watched this episode for the first time, I was more intrigued than anything else as this episode was my introduction to Etrogen and Klarion and I would imagine many others that haven't read the comics previously. While Klarion maybe just a footnote in the villain's rouge's gallery, he was more a fun character that we were never supposed to be taken seriously. He was a child with magic powers with childish desires all because he was a child with magic powers.
I'll assume in your video on Etrigan next week, you'll be starting off with that Batman Adventures Annual story that chronicled their first meeting and team-up against Ra's al Ghul?
Well in relation of batman. Klarion is what Bruse could have become. A super spoiled rich kid with infinite power. If Bruse was just a bit meaner as a child. Hell even in adulthood he could have become a spoiled playboy who leaves devastated lives in his wake.
Klarion can't be too complicated because with a guest hero that would make for too many big personalities for a half hour episode. It's the interaction between Batman, Robin, Blood and Etrigan that drive the episode.
I think the mystical villains were used as a vehicle to introduce Batman and Superman series’ fans to the mystical realm of DC as well bring in heroes like Fate and Etrigan to the audience. That’s why these villains have little depth and motivations compared to the main villains of the series.
I think klarion suffers from being limited by what the comics had done with the character at the time the episode was made and a lot of the good stuff came after it I think another character that he hasn’t talked about yet that suffers from this is Maxi Zeus The character in the DCU version definitely needs help and they just sent him to Arkham, which success rate is like one out of every 500 patients
Overall, I don’t think the new Batman adventures was nearly as poignant as Batman, the animated series, but there’s definitely room for villains like this and episodes like this in a very good Batman show. I also think this episode does a great job of showing Haun Batman, fights enemies, that obviously outclass him. He doesn’t come up with some Sherlock style 20 steps ahead, invention or punch their face in. He learns new information, pulls in expertise from relevant, analyze, and find a way to defeat his enemy without having to just overpower them or, as he did with kalibak in justice league, hold them off and make them a better target for his allies.
Seeing him in James Gunn's DCU definitely seems possible, but to make him an anti-hero would fundamentally change the character. I don't think they'd do that.
Funny you say "Klarian" isn't the type to speak to people and is very forgettable, but given there was a strict rule (likely) about the depiction of children as genuine villains, this may have been a case of the writers writing a story about a spoiled child who has all this power and is left unhinged and can NOT blame his parents for his behavior because he was the one who disposed of them to get his way. It comes at the perfect time of the internet where thanks to having home internet access (and maybe smartphones), a lot of kids have access to tons of information they never would've had when I was a child (where most of that magic sorcery stuff was fake, but more like a coping mechanism if anything), kids use the internet to cause serious real damage to thier own parents without realizing the impact of it all, like calling out hits on them on an unscrupulous website, or posting thier information on a public forum, etc and waht looks like them getting what they want, cake, destruction of property, etc, it's all very real damage that can't be taken back. Just in recent time, I heard a story of several local kids who came across a homeless man and thinking they were vigilantes, started beating him up to death. This wasn't them trying to protect thier home from some stranger, as the police noticed based on the blood trail, they attacked the man first and he tried to escape them only to be blocked off by a few of them and then further beaten to death. then the kids quietly tried to run back to thier apartments where they lived as if to cover up the mess. But it was the security footage that caught 2 of the kids running to thier rooms, the age range was 11 to 15.... though the 11 year old claims he didn't attack the man, he did try to block the man from escaping so the others could beat him up. They eventually found the kids and tried them all as adults though while the community wondered how these kids could seriously think what they did was okay. It wasn't the parents. the parents had no idea their kids did this (and in fact, 2 of them got caught because when their parents found out, they immediately called the police and turned thier kids in and the ones caught in the apartment immediately surrendered as soon as they found out). It's very likely Klarian in this depiction is dislikeable to the extreme he is because he's a reflection of those kind of kids. the ungrateful ones who never seem to get disciplined "because they're a child" when people forget, you don't have to be 18 to take a murder seriously.... and sometimes, the parents are the biggest victim to thier own children, who have nothing to do but go to school and plot ways to ruin thier parents lives just because when they do turn 18 one day, they'll have to get a job and fend for themselves..... Very unfortunate....
I'm a bit salty that Klarion , this annoying brat who showed up for one episode, has an official acting figure while TNBA's Mad Hatter still has nothing (But I'm extremely bias lol).
Didn't Bruce/Batman, Ra's Al Ghul, and Talia have a supernatural adventure in Egypt at one point on BTAS? For that matter, isn't the Lazurus Pit itself supernatural?
Well to be fair in that episode hes just a kid at heart and mind. So why not let him have some fun controlling Etrigun? Hes a kid so why not let him be a kid ya know XD!
Right on time after finishing up on Death Parade. 0:12: Some would rather avoid those otherwise great comics now though. 0:54: Hah, this another deveptive comic book cover worthy of Casually Comics? Say what anyone will of the CCA, the puritanism sure led to later generations wanting to make better works to surpass the mostly obsolete corny tales of the Silver Age. Plus, in a way, the CCA did ensure some people worked for animation instead of comic book artistry instead. Heh, Klarion in his first appearance somehow rings like an anime deity character isekai'd to the human realm. If anyone's well versed on the likes of Belldandy, Urd, and Skuld from Ah! My Goddess, you know what I mean. 5:24: Ooh, lore foreshadowing even if unintentional. Me likey! 7:11: A reference to Arnold Schwarzenegger and the classic Terminator original duology at the time. 7:18: Bingo with the Jack Kirby reference. Interesting experience if one first started watching the DCAU with The New Batman Adventures. Tim Drake in this ep would be the perfect audience surrogate for them. Even moreso if said audience is accompanied by a DCAU veteran fan proctoring them with the ropes of the business, so to speak. 8:39: Missed opportunity to say *"The* Batman strikes!!!" 9:17: This flashy scene looks like it came out of old handdrawn anime. Would have been interesting if, say, Klarion got freed by Mr. Mxyzptlk during Justice League Unlimited. Addendum: Perchance we may get vids on the oft similar Greg Weisman's Gargoyles someday on this channel? Topics on Demona, Macbeth, and David Xanatos would be cool.
Young Justice Klarion will forever be the best take on the character.
For real
So true.
I also really enjoyed Klarion in *"Justice League: Action"* ...
He appears in 2 of my favorite episodes, _"Trick or Threat"_ and _"Supernatural Adventures in Babysitting"_ , voiced by Noel Fisher
(aka Brainiac 5 from "Justice League vs Fatal 5" and Gogo Shoto in "Batman Unlimited: Monster Mayhem")
JL:A (2016-2018) is such a great show, it's a shame that no one ever talks about it.
It's one of Kevin Conroy's last "big" roles as Batman, and since he's in half the episodes it would be a shame to miss that performance.
I actually forgot he appeared in this show. I only remember him from YJ.
I was honestly never too fond of him there. He was made too powerful... not to mention: That show was *terrible* at balancing chaos and order power wise... and later: Also terrible at balancing the violent parts.
Klarion is exactly what a selfish child with godlike powers should be like. Despite being potentially centuries old, he never stopped being a brat, his emotional maturity tied to his physical. To quote a line from the webcomic The Fancy Adventures of Jack Cannon: "Kids with godpowers. Children playing with nuclear bombs. You should be terrified."
Reminds me of why I'm into magical girls, for seeing initially nervous yet ultimately selfless kids (at most) having powers that indirectly make them covert messiahs to the places and peoples they encounter is something to behold, unlike the cut-and-dry Super Sentai/Power Rangers.
Indeed, the only reason Batman is able to keep up with Klarion is because he's a kid who doesn't use his overwhelming magic power to simply delete Bats. Nope, he wants cake!
Just got me to realize how if they adapted Klarion in modern times, we might actually get an ipad kid with magic powers truly horrifying.
Oh god, could you imagine…
Hmm, reminds me of someone… (This reference will only make sense if you’ve watched the owl house.)
@@Collie-Kingwho?
@@megalosaurusstudios2The Collector from the owl house. He’s both my profile pic and inspiration for my username. He’s basically Klarion but far more innocent and seemingly younger. And yes, as referenced above, he IS an IPad kid.
@@SerumLakeklarion is like the batman version of the collector of the owl house.
I actually really like Klarion, at least the Young Justice version. There’s something incredibly entertaining about an all powerful ancient being of chaos with the maturity of an 8 year old.
I was certain that someone would say that they liked Klarion because of his appearance in Young Justice, I just didn't think it'd be the first comment! Maybe I underestimate his popularity.
@@SerumLakeKlarion: you underestimate my power.
I was so excited for the Klarion video when you teased it
And seeing the thumb nail already calling him a dork I was happy❤
I was so excited for the Klarion video when you teased it
And seeing the thumb nail already calling him a dork I was happy❤
@@SerumLake I think it's more the difference between "liking Klarian as a character" and "liking Klarian" as a concept as well. Hehe you were unusually dismissive of him because "his story didn't have an impact" but in this day where kids get internet access and act unusually spoiled and dangerous... it's arguably one of the most impactful fears any parent has, that thier kid would end up being like him when they take out thier phone.
Similarly as I noted in another video, The writers of BTAS seem to have it out against anthropomorphic characters (or "Furry" if you will) as they always depict them as evil or the antithesis of what a good person should be, even in the most sympathetic cases (like Justice League's Cheetah who was ashamed of her feline form until Batman convinced her not to be hard on herself, ONLY to ultimately kill her off as a traitor because she kissed Batman, and the whole "Splicers" episode of Batman Beyond effectively making it sound like Furries were terrible people who couldn't be trusted cause they're practially drug addicts. ironically judging a book by it's cover, something the otherwise very left leaning WB is normally against. Kind of a shame they keep going that route in this series.... It took until Caped Crusader to finally decide "Maybe Killer Croc shouldn't automatically be evil just because he's a scaley..... as that seemed to be the only reason they made him evil originally, despite being a victim of bullying, he was "just evil cause he's a monster". and I'm sure Klarian is a case of "DOn't think because he's an 8 year old boy means he isn't wicked and unhinged.... At least the cat survives, but I do wish Batman used the mark on her forehead to help her no longer be a tool for evil instead of just making a "Hah, I told a woman to sit cause she's a cat" joke.....
Please consider covering Young Justice Klarion. He’s a more well-rounded character there. Still evil and still a brat, but he had a much larger effect on that world and was partially responsible for the creation of Dr. Fate.
Never say never!
@@SerumLake
Klarion's face after bruce buys the artifacts is the highlight of the whole series for me 10/10
Well, some redeeming quality: In a weird crossover with DC Comics and Loony Tunes which pitted Catwoman against Black Canary, alongside Sylvester and Tweety, Klarion ends up being a contributor for good winning out. Basically in a gathering of witches and other magic oriented DC characters a version of Witch Hazel enacts a wager of cosmic-level stakes between cat-kind and bird-kind: That Sylvester and Tweety must battle it out, and whichever wins everything cat or bird related in the universe will cease to be, be it biological, magical or thematic, hence Catwoman and Black Canary. At the height pretty much every cat and bird themed superhero and villain is conjured to duke it out, but Klarion ends up being one of the individuals who calls for this silly wager to end, namely because he didn't want to lose Teekl, even if he himself would not be affected by the wager.
One point regarding Teekl and their willingness to be grabbed, handled, and so on with Klarion is that it implies a degree of closeness. That even outside the arrangement of being a familiar Teekl views Klarion as their favorite person.
And honestly the way Young Justice and especially Phantoms went on to apply that is lovely. Showing that despite being a chaotic little shit with little regard for anyone else he adores his familiar like any good pet owner.
I do definitely agree that the DCAU version of Klarion and his plan was quite simplistic and his overall demeanour and presence is very simple and at times irritating. I'm however a massive fan Young Justice's Klarion as an actual Lord of Chaos and the casting Thom Adcox-Hernandez I thought was pitch perfect and is easily the voice I always think for the character.
Good old voice of Lexington the gargoyle, right there.
I love how by the time of Batman Beyond, Bruce admits he’s pretty much seen everything surrounding the supernatural and isn’t a the skeptic that people would think someone as logical as him would be.
Also I second that the Young Justice version of Klarion rocks. He has bigger ambitions and is more deliciously malicious. I did find him quite a weak villain in the DCAU for your listed reasons of being nothing but a brat with some power
In reading those early Demon comics, I think this adaptation of Klarion is pretty faithful to the source material.
Young Justice’s Klarion, as an agent of chaos opposing Dr Fate (an agent of order) is more fleshed out. But I did not like it when Teekl was killed!
@@SerumLakeI Agree With You, Thats For Sure
@@SerumLake A cat owner's worst nightmare.
RIP Teekl, you were a good girl@@SerumLake
@@SerumLake I did like how Klarion's second (that we know of) familiar-anchor is basically a new-born kitten...with striking similarities to the original Teekl, and that Klarion obviously contradicted himself when he was going to name them.
It also reminds me of a theory I heard; the 'anchor' to keep an all powerful being in this level of reality for the order lord we know (Dr Fate) is a different person every time (a bit of chaos to balance the order) who becomes an avatar for the helm.
The anchor for the well know chaos lord in the show, Klarion, is seemingly the same cat name and all. The one bit of 'order' in Klarion's existence
I like the way Young Justice made him a Lord of Chaos, it explains his actions that way.
And is also way more powerful being at Doctor Fate’s level.
Young Justice was my first exposure to Klarion, and I honestly loved him in it. He's delightfully wicked yet also very silly. His DCAU counterpart is pretty okay though, just a bit more forgettable in comparison.
I have owned many cats who love being carried. Only two loved being carried around other people. One of them was a crippled runt, so he knew running was a fool's errand anyway. The other one had terrible worms until I saved her, so she acted more like a rescue dog than a cat.
It's always nice to see the references in the DCAU shows. The cake store that Klarion breaks into at 7:18 is named after Jack Kirby.
The Demon Within is one of my favourite episodes. I wanted Klarion to wrecked every time he opened his smug mouth. Plus the animation for Etrigan's transformation has always been one of my favourite moments in B:TAS
His worst crime is that dreadful hair style, a mix of a bowl cut and the devil horns is so dorky.
It screams "I did this myself"
Yep, that hair cut isn't working
@@WobblesandBean if he did, that style should be considered self harm.
It's a strange hairstyle, but would anyone wanna change it for, hmm, a mohawk or pigtails?
Young Justice did make it look more cool though.
Especially as a kid, Klarion was one of my favorite villains in that show.
Klarion is my absolute favorite magic user in all of DC. I love his betrayal in Young Justice. My only issue is that Klarion is much stronger than what any form of media has shown us. They don't need to nerf him DC has plenty of strong magic users. Just to name a few we have Zatana, Etrigan, Doctor Fate & John Constantine. There are a lot more so he has plenty of opponents that can give him a good fight at full power.
“See you later armadillos.”
I know NOTHING about young justice, or Batman, or anything (besides your video topics
Oh I definitely recommend Young Justice since you're fond of Klarion. You're going to absolutely love him in it.
@@The_Phantasm I’ve watched compilations of him in young justice and I NEED to watch it, I sadly don’t have the time yet 😭
I knew there had to be SOMEONE
@@ChillipowwwThen be careful. The show has no proper conclusion just yet, and Seasons 3 and 4 are just... rough.
6:18 Bruce thinking "Why do I keep having to deal with people who dress like or can turn into cats or actual monster cats?"
He's great cuz he's funny as hell in that episode. Every villain don't gotta have deep pathos to come across as entertaining
Klarion must go to the same Barber as Joshu with that horrid cut
Ah, great, a RUclips video got me craving cake.
There's something about some cartoons and anime that makes me hungry.
Mine would be pie, particularly coconut and ube.
I wonder if Klarion inspiration is Twilight Zones "Its a good life". I quite like the concept of the immense power in someone immature
We love our horror goofy goth boy. Klarion may not be as engaging but Young Justice made him so terrifying yet hilarious. Sure Young Justice is not the same anymore but Klarion was the only few things good about the modern seeasons. He's hammy, comical and fun.
His pet demon cat was my favorite part of this episode, honestly.
You forgot to mention that he was one of the main villains in Young Justice
I didn’t talk about it because Young Justice is not part of the DC Animated Universe and it came out much later.
Honestly after Young Justice, I do feel Klarion can be used well if you play up to the maliciousness of his antics. Ironically Mordred from the Justice League cartoon feels like how a well done Klarion could be as an antagonisr
i somehow merged Klarion The Witchboy with Mordred like complexly
Lol, the way how you always say the word "pedestrian" with such venomous contempt.
I originally enjoyed this episode more for Blood than Klarion.
Klarion himself got a much more interesting update in later iterations, especially Young Justice. Which honestly improves this episode for me retroactively.
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Kind of disappointed that you didn't talk about Klarion in Young Justice. In my opinion that was the best version of the character.
Part of me likes this version and the Kirby version for just being a comically evil magic wielder; he’s a threat to a world beyond his dimension but given his age and personality, Klarion comedically subverts the chaotic villain role by simply using his powers for sadistic yet childish schemes.
As someone with a rough relation with Young Justice(I never liked making Zatanna a teenager) I do have to admit the version of Klarion from that show was much more fleshed out than in TAS who sadly only got one episode for himself
klarion becomes good if he is considered Dr Fates opposite. dr fate lord of order and klarion lord of chaos. makes both villians and heros. dark sied and dr fate would get along while klarion would hate dark sied. klarion likes joker, creeper, two face, dr fate would hate all three.
this allows klarion to be a pest to hero's villians alike since he could start rebellions and revolts everywhere (hawk & dove could be soldiers in chaos order war). dr fate could cause enslavement because it enforces order. klarion need to be fleshed out to be like Nezha legend. Dr fate cold dragon king.
"The Demon Within" was one of those Batman episodes that felt out of place to me, especially introducing these magical characters who Batman was somehow already familiar with. Superman's "The Hand of Fate" left me feeling equally as lost when Superman showed instant familiarity with Doctor Fate. It felt like I missed an episode somewhere.
Stop Klarion the witch boy is one of my fav DC characters it’s really cool to see you talk about him
Klarion is basically what you'd get if Jack Doherty or Johnny Somali were the kid from Brightburn.
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For me Young Justice Klarion is his best version to date. From a brat with powers to a literal lord of chaos who’s a rival to Dr Fate.
The STAS episode, Hand of Fate, aired a few months before this which featured Doctor Fate. As to tie back to your video "How SUperman changed the world", the STAS show probably opened the floodgates for more overt DC world expansions which included the supernatural.
6:10 heavens i sure wouldn't want to mis gender the God damn DEMON!
It's interesting how insular the supernatural things remained in a way. It would have been interesting to see how the New Batman Adventures rogues gallery would have acted or what they would have done if even for a single episode they were clued in on sorcery/sorcerers being a reality. Outside of Poison Ivy, who already is a meta human with powers. I can already hear Mark Hamill reciting some form of pixie dust joke line in my head writing this. And no, I don't mean Emperor Joker grade stuff. More like just the clown getting his hands on some minor magical doodads to throw into the ring at a moment when it amuses him. And the Joker and JL style snarky Etrigan being in the same room bantering as all heck breaks loose would have been very amusing, plus provide a good set up for quite a many gags. Not to mention how other rogues gallery members would react to and behave in the presence of Etrigan.
I vividly remember a comic book story by Doug Moench and Kelley Jones where the Joker started to dabble in magic. I think Etrigan was in that too…
As always, another amazing video. Plus, I really appreciate how it fits the October/Halloween vibes for this month.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
You know, another little fun.Fact is, after he gets over his whole villain phase.He actually joins the teen titans for a bit I wish I could remember what comic it was But yeah, he was essentially a swap out for raven.
Besides Klarion, there is Mordred, the son of Morgan La Fey, from Justice League and Justice League Unlimited. I love the JLU episode, " Kids Stuff", where Mordred steals a medallion and uses it's magic to banish all the adults to another dimension so that he will be the king of an adult free world! Also, he turned Etrigan into a baby demon!
If I had to guess, I think Klarion keeps possessing his barber in order to get the hairstyle he wants, and the barber has to watch while they involuntarily make that atrocious haircut.
Turn my room light to scared or can and I like your designs and yes clearing reminds me of kid Loki
Godlike power and childlike immaturity are a deadly combination, but also a very entertaining one. See also: Majin Buu.
Episode definitely felt like the Hand of Fate from the Superman animated series, with our hero forced to ask the aid of a sorcerer to handle a dangerous magical threat they're completely unversed in.
I know I'm early but for a second I thought I forgot about the great batman villain "Dork"
There are a lot Klarion now in the works.
True Story: Paul Dini pitched the Sandman story after nearly dying from being mugged and getting the crap beaten out of him after being friend zoned by this 3rd-rate actress. It was basically the first step in his recovery after dealing with all that (including nearly killing himself the year before by cutting himself with his Emmy after another actress zoned him)
He talks about it in a cool comic about that time period in his life.
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Klarion is one of those characters I encountered via Heroclix and haven't seen much of but thought was really neat.
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The young justice one was actually great. You are spitting that this one was not the guy he though he was.
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Am I the only one who wants a Klarion vs Damien Wayne story? I feel like they'd have an interesting dynamic.
Damien would break every bone in that dork’s body 😂
The Wayne Family Adventures webcomics might do that.
Klarion is a powerhouse that is capable of taking on people like zattana and etrigan.
after I saw the episode I immediately thought of him as the male version of Wednesday from the 90s movies
I wouldn't call him a favorite, but as someone with a lot of power and little real-world experience, I thought they treated him as to be expected. Unlike Wil Riker, who learned a lesson when given Q powers, Klariin hadcyet to learn his. There is a potential redemption arc there, which I doubt they will ever get to.
Your supposed to be
Annoyed 😅 when you see him. Think 🧐 if Caillou had devil powers
Klarion The Witchboy, young justice turn him into a god of chaos, which I think is the best version of him, i know a good video can't wait for the next one.
I liked this episode everything about it was a nice change of pace. Especially Karion, in a rogues gallery filled with sympathetic villians and ruthless sociopath's, it was nice to have a villian who was just simply a spoiled brat.
I think Young Justice did a better take on the character, but when I first watched this episode for the first time, I was more intrigued than anything else as this episode was my introduction to Etrogen and Klarion and I would imagine many others that haven't read the comics previously.
While Klarion maybe just a footnote in the villain's rouge's gallery, he was more a fun character that we were never supposed to be taken seriously. He was a child with magic powers with childish desires all because he was a child with magic powers.
I'll assume in your video on Etrigan next week, you'll be starting off with that Batman Adventures Annual story that chronicled their first meeting and team-up against Ra's al Ghul?
Well in relation of batman. Klarion is what Bruse could have become. A super spoiled rich kid with infinite power. If Bruse was just a bit meaner as a child. Hell even in adulthood he could have become a spoiled playboy who leaves devastated lives in his wake.
*laughs* that's why the cape crusader had that super natural episode. He was told not to do it before.
Maybe!
Klarion can't be too complicated because with a guest hero that would make for too many big personalities for a half hour episode. It's the interaction between Batman, Robin, Blood and Etrigan that drive the episode.
I'm surprised you didn't mention his depiction in Young Justice.
I think the mystical villains were used as a vehicle to introduce Batman and Superman series’ fans to the mystical realm of DC as well bring in heroes like Fate and Etrigan to the audience. That’s why these villains have little depth and motivations compared to the main villains of the series.
I think klarion suffers from being limited by what the comics had done with the character at the time the episode was made and a lot of the good stuff came after it I think another character that he hasn’t talked about yet that suffers from this is Maxi Zeus The character in the DCU version definitely needs help and they just sent him to Arkham, which success rate is like one out of every 500 patients
Not even a minute of discussion of how Klarion been adapted on Young Justice?
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To be fair, any kid with that much power would act like that
Overall, I don’t think the new Batman adventures was nearly as poignant as Batman, the animated series, but there’s definitely room for villains like this and episodes like this in a very good Batman show. I also think this episode does a great job of showing Haun Batman, fights enemies, that obviously outclass him. He doesn’t come up with some Sherlock style 20 steps ahead, invention or punch their face in. He learns new information, pulls in expertise from relevant, analyze, and find a way to defeat his enemy without having to just overpower them or, as he did with kalibak in justice league, hold them off and make them a better target for his allies.
I think he looks better as an enemy of the Teen Titans, especially Raven.
I can see a Klarion movie being made in the Gunn DC verse. He can be an anti hero, have a Harry Potter vibe. And played by Timothee Chalamet.
Seeing him in James Gunn's DCU definitely seems possible, but to make him an anti-hero would fundamentally change the character. I don't think they'd do that.
@@The_Phantasm it wouldn't fundamentally change his character. Have you read seven soldiers klarion?
@@mythanita4292 Not yet actually.
@@The_Phantasm read it it gives more context into klarions character and why he is the way he is. Klarion isn't good or bad he's just curious
@@The_PhantasmJames has made fundamental changes to other characters he’s worked on so I wouldn’t be surprised if he would with klarion
I like YJ Klarion more, it still evokes that extremely childish energy but in a "he could kill you, he's just playing with you" way
Man i didn't knew that klarion once appeared in the dcau i once thought that he only ever appeared in Young justice not until now
i remember this guy from lego dc supervillains
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Funny you say "Klarian" isn't the type to speak to people and is very forgettable, but given there was a strict rule (likely) about the depiction of children as genuine villains, this may have been a case of the writers writing a story about a spoiled child who has all this power and is left unhinged and can NOT blame his parents for his behavior because he was the one who disposed of them to get his way. It comes at the perfect time of the internet where thanks to having home internet access (and maybe smartphones), a lot of kids have access to tons of information they never would've had when I was a child (where most of that magic sorcery stuff was fake, but more like a coping mechanism if anything), kids use the internet to cause serious real damage to thier own parents without realizing the impact of it all, like calling out hits on them on an unscrupulous website, or posting thier information on a public forum, etc and waht looks like them getting what they want, cake, destruction of property, etc, it's all very real damage that can't be taken back.
Just in recent time, I heard a story of several local kids who came across a homeless man and thinking they were vigilantes, started beating him up to death. This wasn't them trying to protect thier home from some stranger, as the police noticed based on the blood trail, they attacked the man first and he tried to escape them only to be blocked off by a few of them and then further beaten to death. then the kids quietly tried to run back to thier apartments where they lived as if to cover up the mess. But it was the security footage that caught 2 of the kids running to thier rooms, the age range was 11 to 15.... though the 11 year old claims he didn't attack the man, he did try to block the man from escaping so the others could beat him up. They eventually found the kids and tried them all as adults though while the community wondered how these kids could seriously think what they did was okay. It wasn't the parents. the parents had no idea their kids did this (and in fact, 2 of them got caught because when their parents found out, they immediately called the police and turned thier kids in and the ones caught in the apartment immediately surrendered as soon as they found out). It's very likely Klarian in this depiction is dislikeable to the extreme he is because he's a reflection of those kind of kids. the ungrateful ones who never seem to get disciplined "because they're a child" when people forget, you don't have to be 18 to take a murder seriously.... and sometimes, the parents are the biggest victim to thier own children, who have nothing to do but go to school and plot ways to ruin thier parents lives just because when they do turn 18 one day, they'll have to get a job and fend for themselves..... Very unfortunate....
I always got this kid confused with Morgan's brat.
I'm a bit salty that Klarion , this annoying brat who showed up for one episode, has an official acting figure while TNBA's Mad Hatter still has nothing (But I'm extremely bias lol).
Didn't Bruce/Batman, Ra's Al Ghul, and Talia have a supernatural adventure in Egypt at one point on BTAS? For that matter, isn't the Lazurus Pit itself supernatural?
I have dubbed the sorcerers conundrum he who knows the trick will be all the more baffled when shown a new one
This wokr make a Good crossover with Zatanna too.
I love your videos
Young justice Klarion is funny
I love Klarion, the brat is just so terrible.
Did you notice "KIRBY" cake company?
Indeed I did!
Well to be fair in that episode hes just a kid at heart and mind. So why not let him have some fun controlling Etrigun? Hes a kid so why not let him be a kid ya know XD!
Do you think that Klarion was done any better in the Young Justice show
Oh I definitely do. He was one of my favourite recurring characters.
Yes, but he was also a dork 😂
Right on time after finishing up on Death Parade.
0:12: Some would rather avoid those otherwise great comics now though.
0:54: Hah, this another deveptive comic book cover worthy of Casually Comics?
Say what anyone will of the CCA, the puritanism sure led to later generations wanting to make better works to surpass the mostly obsolete corny tales of the Silver Age. Plus, in a way, the CCA did ensure some people worked for animation instead of comic book artistry instead.
Heh, Klarion in his first appearance somehow rings like an anime deity character isekai'd to the human realm. If anyone's well versed on the likes of Belldandy, Urd, and Skuld from Ah! My Goddess, you know what I mean.
5:24: Ooh, lore foreshadowing even if unintentional. Me likey!
7:11: A reference to Arnold Schwarzenegger and the classic Terminator original duology at the time.
7:18: Bingo with the Jack Kirby reference.
Interesting experience if one first started watching the DCAU with The New Batman Adventures. Tim Drake in this ep would be the perfect audience surrogate for them. Even moreso if said audience is accompanied by a DCAU veteran fan proctoring them with the ropes of the business, so to speak.
8:39: Missed opportunity to say *"The* Batman strikes!!!"
9:17: This flashy scene looks like it came out of old handdrawn anime.
Would have been interesting if, say, Klarion got freed by Mr. Mxyzptlk during Justice League Unlimited.
Addendum: Perchance we may get vids on the oft similar Greg Weisman's Gargoyles someday on this channel? Topics on Demona, Macbeth, and David Xanatos would be cool.
I don't suppose a video on etrigan would interest anyone?
Kalarion is one note here but in YJ he ..... okay he;s just fun to watch
Watch the end of the video. He said that he's doing Etrigan next.
Cool
Id love to see Klarion in live action, hes a little shit if u ask me, Young Justice was the best take on him
Can't be all bad if he's a cat person.