I ended up going for the 55 as I found it for the same price as the 40 and didn't want to go out and buy a daypack. Also for people with expensive laptops the compartment in the 40 wasn't all that protective and takes up space in the main compartment. The laptop compartment is in the main one with a shorter sleeve separting them. This means you need to be careful to not have items that can stain your laptop. The 55 has more space for clothes and I can keep my tech items in the daypack separately.
This comparison is everything! I've spent days researching different packs, sizes, brands, etc. and narrowed it down to these three packs. Early on in the process I watched your video, but now I am rewatching it for a final time and hope to be able to choose a pack based on your analysis. Thank you!
Tbh I would probably get the 40 and then get my own day pack to add on if I felt like I wanted more space. The design of the 50 confuses me a bit, I don't see why they changed a couple of tiny things and then it's exactly the same bag plus a day pack. Why not just offer it as a 40+ 10.
the only video that went even further than simple review of a bag combined with its standard accessories (FP/FV55 and FP/FV40 plus their officially compatible bags -FPFV packs, with your own tricks and hacks generously shared with the viewers. Thank you so much.)
With the many videos that explained Osprey backpacks, you are the only one who explained the idea to me and made me distinguish the differences between them, thank you for your effort.
I have the Fairview 40 backpack (2022) have been traveling with it for 3 years now. It’s been around the world twice and on 50+ domestic flights. I choose the 40 because the 55 is sometimes just a little too big for the domestic flights. Depending on the trip (destination, length of time & season of clothes) I might use just the Fairview 40, or also pack a carry on case and/or a small day bag I brought on one of my trips when I needed a little extra bag. So now I’m thinking I’ll just buy the Fairview day bag that matches!
This video is SO HELPFUL! Thank you so much for taking the time to review and explain the differences. This helps so much in terms of narrowing down options. Definitely subscribing!
Thanks for the review. It's certainly an improvement, but it's a pity there are no additional zipped/organiser compartments for smaller items, like the one inside the bag, lengthwise.
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I wish there was version for Trek but possible to get as carry on to plane :/ I think it won't be possible to squish on height to make it better fit:D
Great video. Loved the clear descriptions and comparisons for each product. Very helpful as I decide on a new lightweight travel backpack to replace my old school roller bag. Thanks!
Watched the video you made 8 months ago on the trek and was looking for a video with the difference between the trek and non-trek versions and then boom! Perfect timing. Great comparison video :)
Traveling through China in 2012 I had a cheap 2 in 1 where you could strap the daypack to your front. It was really helpful. When a train is literally so packed your backpack is being crushed having your laptop in the front where you can protect it is important. Also when traveling through more risky areas like Cambodia it’s good to keep your valuables up front and clothing in the backpack.
Hi, love the review very in depth and useful. Was just wondering, is there any way to attach the daylite plus to the farpoint 40, similar to how the daypack clips on
Excellent video. Confirmed my purchase decision off the 40 but with the regular Daylight (15l instead of your 20l Plus). I don't think i would attach it to the back but curious as to why you did use the fabric loops when doing so?
Excellent review. Thank you!!! Not sure if I like the laptop pocket in the 40. Why is it flapping in the breeze? Why not make the padding go all the way and have some support from the frame?
This video is so informative! Thank you so much. The only question i have is whether the male clips on the Daylite Plus are able to click into the female clips that are on the shoulder straps of the Farpoint 40L to make turtle mode more comfy? I have tried to research everywhere but no luck
Good review, looking getting the 40, all ready own daylite plus 20lt using hole lot together is good. Only problem might have is when buying surverniess where to store them, on way back home.
Thanks for the review! Question about the Trek 55: is it possible to fold the bag in half if you "unhook" all the wire frames from the attachments? Thinking of situations in which I'd want to store the bag in a smaller luggage locker etc.
I chose farpoint 40 + farpoint daypack. Farpoint daypack has biggest laptop compartment compared to daylight, lightest weight and the most simple, best integration into the bigger Farpoints. Farpoint 40 is as you said much better as a standalone with it's extras compared to 55. This solution is more expensive but feels more complete for me where a laptop is part of my life and I appreciate more places to stash items for easy access.
Has anyone noticed that inside the very bottom, where the harness cover goes is quite large, and there is some sort of O-ring attachment point under there? I’m wondering if it could be used as a hidden pocket of sorts or another place to stash stuff?
Thanks for this comparison video! I spent a lot of time researching packs and landed on the Fairview 40. I got the Farpoint Daypack separate to add, but I'm not a fan of the water pouches or the opening. I might send it back and get the Daylite Plus instead. Was glad that was included in this review.
@@leilakikuchi-house6750 hey! thanks for asking. I did end up getting the daylite plus, but I wouldn't say it clips easily into the Fairview 40. It's possible to snake the clips of the daylite through some loops on the fairvew, but it wasn't the most secure. And with the amount I was packing into both bags (moving overseas as opposed to hiking), it ended up balancing oddly. I also needed stuff out of the daylite frequently, so in the end I just wore it on my front. But I do use the daylite daily as a backpack. I'm glad I bought it.
This was great. I have the olde version of the Fairview 40 and really hate the computer in the front, it puts too much weight on my shoulders, hearing about this new version makes me want to up grade, thank you!
Thanks. I was a bit confused because I watched their video about the Farpoint 55 trek and it didn't include a daypack, but then was watching review videos on YT where it did. "Trek" and "new version/edition" are the key words :) I think I need more space than the 40, but maybe not if I include the daypack, which I know I'll want. So now I'm wondering if the 55 Trek plus a daypack is going to be too much.
Super helpful, thank you! I already own a Daylite Plus and am looking for a new carry-on pack or duffel. This made the decision easy. Farpoint 40 it is.
@@paigestatham6363 no ended up changing my mind and getting the Cotopoxi Allpa 42L instead. I think the Farpoint probably would be more comfortable than the Allpa. I'm happy with the Allpa though - the internal organization is great.
This video was exactly what I was looking for. I'm going to be getting a backpack for my son and I was having a hard time figuring out what the new Farpoint 55 looked like. Thank you!
Nice video!! I thought the same of the Farpoint 55, and choose the same option you recommend: Farpoint 40 + Daylite Plus! I'm glad that I chose correctly before watching this video.
I was considering farpoint 40 vs farpoint 55 and decided on the 55 because the main bakcpack has more space for clothes. That was one reason and the other the daypack incorporated with the 55 is perfect when i just need to explore a city and i would never buy a 15l backpack. The initial idea was to give it to my gf but after using it i changed my mind. Shockingly it can hold a fair amount of stuff too. The opening was weird for a couple of tries but i got used to it very fast. I choose the 55 because the 40 is not suitable for a expensive laptop and for that i have a couple of everkis. The daypack coming with de farpoint 55 it can hold a 16 inch laptop but doesn't provide much protection. Ultimately I found the farpoint 55 at 150 euros and the 40 was 125 euros so not such a big difference. I'm really happy with the 55. If i didn't have the evekis for my laptos i would have bought the 40 though.
Can the daylite plus clip onto the front backpack straps of the Fairview 40? I’ve been trying to find an answer about whether they’re compatible to wear the daylite on your front!!!
I’m glad I came across this video, I thought I was going crazy seeing different models of the same bag. You mentioned your camera cube didn’t fit into the daylite bag, and then proceeded to show your peak design packing cubes. Any chance that camera cube was also from peak design, and if so which size (s/m/l) didn’t fit into it? Does the cube fit into the daylite plus by chance? I need to pickup a bag that can accommodate some camera gear so your video has already been super helpful. Thank you!
Hah yeah that must have be confusing! Glad to clear it up. The camera cube is by Tropicfeel and not necessarily one I recommend, I just had it laying around from another review. I think they do just one size so you could check the dimensions. I shoot micro four thirds which means the lenses are smaller than typical, but it was still too much to have a camera with 3 lenses. The daylite sadly isn't very wide at the bottom
@@indietraveller Amazing, 5 month old video and you reply within a day. I will check for the dimensions of that cube, it’s unfortunate they don’t fit in day bags. My search may continue.. Thanks again, keep up the great work!
According to Osprey Europe website the new Farpoint 40 and Farpoint 55 have exactly the same size (?): 55x35x23cm from my understanding, the Farpoint 55 is essentially a 40 Liter pack with a 15 liter daypack on top of it. If the Farpoint 40 has effectively the same volume as the Farpoint 55 minus its (useless) daypack, I'd rather buy the 40 as it comes with an integrated laptop sleeve and combine that with a better daypack like the Daylite Plus.
@@indietraveller I'm actually also thinking of doing this combo. Seems better! Is it possible to attach the newer versions of Daylite Plus to the Farpoint 40, 2022?
Great video by the way! Was leaning towards the 55 but you certainly nailed the pros and cons of each solution. Can you comfortably wear the Daylite Plus in turtle shell mode with the FP40? Also, I feel it's a downside to end up with 2 laptop compartments (one in the 40 and another in the Daylite), as you loose some packing space in the main bag. I personally always carry my laptop in my daypack when transiting from A to B so it'll stay with me when boarding a bus, train or plane.
I find turtle shell is comfortable enough for 30 min or something... just enough for getting to your terminal / bus /etc. It's true that the two packs have some feature overlap. I think what tilted me to the 40 is that I can also use it standalone more easily, otherwise the 55 has advantages for sure
@@indietraveller Definitely a trade off. It leaves to wonder if Osprey will release other daypacks that will be compatible with the Farpoint's shoulder strap clips!
@@indietraveller How can you attach the Daylite Plus to the front of the FP40 for turtleshell carry? I heard it doesnt have the buckles that would connect to the farpoint shoulderstraps.
Hey thanks for the vid! Got a question for you about the daypacks. One of the things I like about the Farpoint daypack is that it's small enough to be considered a "personal item" for flights. Do you think that would consistently be the case with the Daylight+? Or is it big enough that it would have to be a carry on? Thanks
You're welcome! I'm confident it'll go as a personal item without problems. (Unless there's some kind of airline with crazy restrictions I don't know about)
Do you think the trek 55 is too much for 6 months is south east Asia?, I bought the Farpoint 40 and just don’t think I’ll be able to fit everything in or meet the weight limit for carry on, even using compression cubes!
First carefully assess what you're packing... I have some tips here www.indietraveller.co/how-to-pack-light/ I did 9 months in SEA with a FP40+daypack. If you still think it'll be too small, then move to a FP55 :)
Thanks for the video, I've waiting for this review for a few weeks. I have a couple of questions. are the clips of the old farpoint 55 daypack compatible with the new farpoint 40?? and what are the dimensions of the new farpoint daypack laptop space?? I have a macbook pro 14 inch and I don't know if it will fit in it. I have an older farpoint 55 and I try to figure out to buy a new one o just buy the farpoint 40 and keep the old daypack, Thanks!!
Great questions! I don't have an answer to your first one as I don't have my old FP55 anymore, so I don't know. As for question 2 I just put my Macbook Air 13" in the FP55 daypack laptop sleeve and there is about 3cm or 1.2 inch of space to spare. Macbook Air is 11.97 inches wide, MacBook pro 14" is 12.31 inch wide (according to google) so yes I'd say it will fit just fine :) Hope this helps!
The back panel on that daypack is just ridiculous and in my opinion makes it absolutely useless. How uncomfortable and sweaty would it be to wear that daypack on a whole day of sightseeing. For this reason I went with the 40 and will buy a seperate quality daypack instead, something like the Talon 22 or Hikelite backpacks.
Did you end up going with the Talon or Hikelite? If so, how did/do you like that set up? I assume you lose the ability to connect the day pack with the 40L; and just double strap hold them?
Nice review however would of preferred it had you shown us how the peak design packing cubes fit into the osprey farpoint 40l!! Maybe a new video of this. As I like to see this in videos.
I noticed your version of the 40 has lockable zippers for the laptop sleeve. The new one at REI has 1 zipper and a fabric loop at the top. Have you seen this and do you know if there were other changes? Seems like a design flaw.
Hi thank you very much, I've been on the hunt for a Farpoint 40 and your advice on the day pack has me intrigued. I have a "standard" maybe 20-25L backpack I use to carry my laptop to and from work, would the Daylite Plus fulfil that requirement? If so, makes that purchase more valuable than just for travelling. Conversely, how do you feel about using a Farpoint 40 as a day pack if it isn't filled to the brim, eg. Farpoint 40 + Suitcase, and Farpoint 40 is 1/3-1/2 full most of the time until the end of the trip for additional souvenirs, thinking of that approach for a 2 week trip.
I've actually been using the Daylite lately at home as a day-to-day backpack for my laptop and a few other things. It's fine for that purpose (but not perfect, it's not quite made for this). The FP40 would definitely feel too big for me as a daypack, even if not fully loaded. The back panel has a stiff frame around it so it will feel full-size (at least vertically) even when not packed. You could still do it of course, but personally I'd feel it would be a bit odd and too large.Just my 2 ct :)
@@indietraveller Thanks for the reply! I watched the entire video again. I've tried on a Farpoint 40 w/ a 8kg weight, and it felt fine, was adjusted, so I bought that - very happy, the laptop sleeve and larger mesh vs. the 55 I prefer I think. When it came to daypacks the shop assistant mentioned the daylite plus, there are zips exposed so if your bigger pack is on you and some pick pocket had the opportunity while it's there, those exposed pockets/zips are potentially unusable if you're concerned, and that steered me to the farpoint day pack. Lastly, I feel I'll use the combo for maybe a few hours at a time at most, basically between cities I guess, the day pack for longer (3-4 hour stints) but with far less in it. I will miss the drink pouches and the ribbed back, wish me luck and thanks again, great video.
I totally understand what you're saying with the various situations in which you may find yourself and what you feel like doing in those contexts because I think the same way. Anyway, what is the length of the non-flexible part of the back of the Trek 55? I'm still wondering if I could use it as a carry on even if it's not officially carry on compliant.
@@indietraveller Thanks! That's not as bad as I thought, but still a little bit too risky to use it on a regular basis as a carry on. I don't understand how Osprey can make dozens of all kinds of packs that is becoming almost hard to tell the difference between their functionalities. but never thought of making a 45-47 liter Farpoint Trek. One that would not be carry-on compliant officially, but with which you'd have no problem using it as a carry on on most airlines and which would have all the advantages of the Trek version for longer walks and heavier loads. They seem to be either super particular about being carry on compliant, to the extent that the bag becomes too small or weirdly shaped, or they just completely give up on the idea of carry on and create these extremely long backpacks. Girls are luckier since the Fairview Trek 50 is almost perfect, but even for an average height male, it doesn't fit at all - I tried one once and the hip belt was almost on my chest. Anyway, thanks for these videos and enjoy your travels!
@@annndddrre the Fairview Trek 50 is a bit shorter than the Trek 55. Still too big for carry on but a bit closer to the size you're after. If possible, try it on in a store and compare it. It's the female version of the bag but is almost similar to all other ways. I'm unsure what the length of the hard inflexible part of the bag is and if that is the same length for both bag types but it might be worth investigating more. Below are both bag total dimensions according to the stores that sell them. Fairview Trek 50: 62H x 38W X 32D cm Farpoint Trek 55: 72H x 39W x 31D cm
@@DanielGimenez Thanks.. I had actually tried the Fairview thinking exactly along the lines of your message. But unfortunately, the Fairview is really tailored for women, meaning that it's meant for short torsos. And even though I'm not a tall guy (5'9''), as soon as I put the Fairview on my back, I realized it's nowhere near acceptable. It was for a way way shorter torso than mine.
I have the newest Fairview 40 and the newest Porter 46. There is no comparison for one bag travel: Porter all day since the changes to the Fairview. The newer Fairview is a disappointment. 1. CORRECTION The laptop sleeve location does have a zipper to access from the outside without having to open the clamshell 2. No organization pockets on the walls of the inside main compartment. 3. The curved backboard is awesome on cooling the back, and you lose volume space as a result. 4. Top small pocket is just that...small. 5. No shoe sleeve. 6. One size fits all torso adjustment takes more adjusting with changes in pack load or strap adjustments. I'm still an Osprey Fan.
Hi - I have an older Porter 46 with the non ventilated back and no hip belt - so no good for heavier loads that the Porter 46 can accommodate size-wise (the 46L seem like large litres for this pack!). I was looking to the Trek 55 to give me a more comfortable carry (mesh back/proper hip belt) but I'm concerned that it isn't officially carry on size - do you think the new Porter 46 would give me a proper hip belt that I need? Thanks
Sorry - a quick question - do you think the 46L vs 40L ratings are realistic for the 2 packs or are they closer in capacity than the official numbers would suggest? Thanks. Mark
Hi there! Did you end up purchasing that combo? If so, how has it worked for you? I am trending towards the Farpoint and daylite plus too. I liked that the 40l would have a computer sleeve too.
I just bought the farpoint 55 old version and 2022 version to see which one is better and the newer version weighs so much more. I think more than a pound more than the previous version. What are your thoughts on this. When travelling weight is important, it makes no sense, why they would make a heavier product
How much wieght do the plastic clips connecting the daypack to the main backpack support? I have a hard time imagining I would be confident letting my laptop hang in front of me if those two clips are the only things supporting it.
Hi. If it still helps, I have the older Fairview 55 (the one with a zipper to attach it + the buckles) and I never used it with the Daypack attached for this reason. It just weighs the backpack down too much, as your tech and water (which it's usually the heaviest) will be in the daypack, to the point you don't even feel the loadlifters anymore. I imagine that now, with only buckles, it will drag the backpack down even more. I spent 2 years in Asia and loved the main pack but the "attachment" system, never worked for me.
I own a Farpoint 40 M/L size and Farpoint 55 S/M size (both bought in 2016, e.g. the preceding model) and just did the test: There's NO WAY I can fit the contents of a reasonably tight packed Farpoint 55 (only counting the main pack here, not using the included daypack!) into the Farpoint 40, well it might work if using brute force and turning the Farpoint 40 into a compression bag but that's not how I packed the 55 in the first place or how I want to travel. On top of that a fully loaded Farpoint 40 budges out like a turtle with horrible weight distribution whereas the Farpoint 55 has a more convenient straight shape with weight much closer to my back and an even front surface that is far better suited to strap my daypack of choice onto it (I use an Osprey Daylite Plus). So based on my first hand experience the "old" Farpoint 55 S/M is clearly the superior carry-on backpack. I honestly never understood the fuss about the Farpoint 40, at the expense of matching official carry-on size lengh Osprey designed a pack that doesn't carry well when fully packed and it doesn't fit in tighter overhead compartments either due to it's awkward turtle like shape. Please note that the Farpoint 55 S/M is significantly shorter (59cm measured) than the Farpoint 55 M/L (66cm measured in store) that's why I bought the shorter S/M in the first place, despite being a 5'11 male. I'm aware that 59cm length is technically still above the official carry-on size limit (
You are comparing different things. The older version of Farpoint 55 was not carry on compliant (even without the daypack) as the dimension and build is different compared to the Farpoint 40. The newest generation (2023) Farpoint 40 and 55 are basically the same in regards to the dimensions.
Osprey crippled the 55 version main bag so the the mediocre day pack is needed. I do like the 40 as it does NOT have the "administration" or "tech" compartments which are a waste of SPACE and create confusing zippers, IMO.
Definitely too large for carry on (you'll need to check it in). But I think it can be great for backpacking... e.g. backpacking Europe using trains, overlanding in South America, when you don't strictly need it to be carry on
the men's Farpoint 55 Trek is definitely too big for carry on, it might work sometimes if you're lucky but I wouldn't feel comfortable traveling like this. The female version "Fairview Trek 50" is significantly shorter and should work most of the time, I did something similar for the last 6 years by using a Farpoint 55 in S/M size that is technically 5cm longer than what officially allowed in europe (60 vs 55cm), however due to still "looking small" was never even once rejected by any airline.
Despite watching the whole video it's still unclear to me if the Farpoint 40 now has the same size (e.g. volume) as the new Farpoint 55 main pack. Can you elaborate on that?
@Indie Traveller Well you definitely mentioned that point in your written review which was a great read btw, however I did the test myself (owning both bags) and call that claim BS, I left a more elaborate comment on top for better visibility and further discussion. IMO Ospreys ambition to match official carry-on size/length makes the new Farpoint 55 an inferior product.
100% if the daypack is attached and the airline allows a personal item. Exception is if airline is unusually strict (I'm just thinking of the usual size limits here)
@@indietraveller really ? i thought the porter 46 was technically the max size limit for carry on ? suprised that a 55 farpoint would be allowed in the cabin too... i guess airlines are different , but i thought the 55 farpoint would be a guaranteed No all the time...
IS THERE ANY DIFFERENT BEETWEN WOMAN AND MEN VERSIO? I WANTED TO BUY A 55 WOMAN VERSION BUT ITS SAID THAT IS ION THE SAME SIZE AS 70 ONE, IS IT A TRUTH? AND THE MAN 55 IS SMALLER
@@indietraveller I've watched the entire video. The new version of the Fairview 40 is not the same as the older version. The laptop compartment is in the back on the newer 2023 version, the newer is now size adjustable as opposed to 2 different sizes, and the water bottle front lid storage is larger and goes right through the middle as opposed to 2 separate compartments on the older version...
@@wl5609 All that is covered in the video :) The new Farpoint has the same features as the new Fairview. The old Farpoint has the same features as the old Fairview.
I ended up going for the 55 as I found it for the same price as the 40 and didn't want to go out and buy a daypack. Also for people with expensive laptops the compartment in the 40 wasn't all that protective and takes up space in the main compartment. The laptop compartment is in the main one with a shorter sleeve separting them. This means you need to be careful to not have items that can stain your laptop. The 55 has more space for clothes and I can keep my tech items in the daypack separately.
This comparison is everything! I've spent days researching different packs, sizes, brands, etc. and narrowed it down to these three packs. Early on in the process I watched your video, but now I am rewatching it for a final time and hope to be able to choose a pack based on your analysis. Thank you!
Tbh I would probably get the 40 and then get my own day pack to add on if I felt like I wanted more space. The design of the 50 confuses me a bit, I don't see why they changed a couple of tiny things and then it's exactly the same bag plus a day pack. Why not just offer it as a 40+ 10.
the only video that went even further than simple review of a bag combined with its standard accessories (FP/FV55 and FP/FV40 plus their officially compatible bags -FPFV packs, with your own tricks and hacks generously shared with the viewers. Thank you so much.)
With the many videos that explained Osprey backpacks, you are the only one who explained the idea to me and made me distinguish the differences between them, thank you for your effort.
Glad you found this useful!
I have the Fairview 40 backpack (2022) have been traveling with it for 3 years now. It’s been around the world twice and on 50+ domestic flights. I choose the 40 because the 55 is sometimes just a little too big for the domestic flights. Depending on the trip (destination, length of time & season of clothes) I might use just the Fairview 40, or also pack a carry on case and/or a small day bag I brought on one of my trips when I needed a little extra bag. So now I’m thinking I’ll just buy the Fairview day bag that matches!
This video is SO HELPFUL! Thank you so much for taking the time to review and explain the differences. This helps so much in terms of narrowing down options. Definitely subscribing!
Thanks for the review. It's certainly an improvement, but it's a pity there are no additional zipped/organiser compartments for smaller items, like the one inside the bag, lengthwise.
I wish there was version for Trek but possible to get as carry on to plane :/ I think it won't be possible to squish on height to make it better fit:D
Great video. Loved the clear descriptions and comparisons for each product. Very helpful as I decide on a new lightweight travel backpack to replace my old school roller bag. Thanks!
This video was awesome! Helped me make my final decision on which pack to buy. Ended up going with the the Farpoint 40 for my traveling needs. :)
Thank you very much, it helps me a lot!!! I think Fairview 40 + daylit is the best combo for me thanks to you :)
Watched the video you made 8 months ago on the trek and was looking for a video with the difference between the trek and non-trek versions and then boom! Perfect timing. Great comparison video :)
Traveling through China in 2012 I had a cheap 2 in 1 where you could strap the daypack to your front. It was really helpful. When a train is literally so packed your backpack is being crushed having your laptop in the front where you can protect it is important. Also when traveling through more risky areas like Cambodia it’s good to keep your valuables up front and clothing in the backpack.
Hi, love the review very in depth and useful. Was just wondering, is there any way to attach the daylite plus to the farpoint 40, similar to how the daypack clips on
Excellent video. Confirmed my purchase decision off the 40 but with the regular Daylight (15l instead of your 20l Plus). I don't think i would attach it to the back but curious as to why you did use the fabric loops when doing so?
Excellent review. Thank you!!! Not sure if I like the laptop pocket in the 40. Why is it flapping in the breeze? Why not make the padding go all the way and have some support from the frame?
This video is so informative! Thank you so much. The only question i have is whether the male clips on the Daylite Plus are able to click into the female clips that are on the shoulder straps of the Farpoint 40L to make turtle mode more comfy? I have tried to research everywhere but no luck
I want to know too!
Thank you for the review, this really helps me with the decision which I have struggled with for a month 😅
Good review, looking getting the 40, all ready own daylite plus 20lt using hole lot together is good.
Only problem might have is when buying surverniess where to store them, on way back home.
I thought about it and I'm going to ship the souvenirs that don't fit. I refuse to check luggage.
Thanks for the review! Question about the Trek 55: is it possible to fold the bag in half if you "unhook" all the wire frames from the attachments? Thinking of situations in which I'd want to store the bag in a smaller luggage locker etc.
I chose farpoint 40 + farpoint daypack. Farpoint daypack has biggest laptop compartment compared to daylight, lightest weight and the most simple, best integration into the bigger Farpoints. Farpoint 40 is as you said much better as a standalone with it's extras compared to 55. This solution is more expensive but feels more complete for me where a laptop is part of my life and I appreciate more places to stash items for easy access.
Has anyone noticed that inside the very bottom, where the harness cover goes is quite large, and there is some sort of O-ring attachment point under there? I’m wondering if it could be used as a hidden pocket of sorts or another place to stash stuff?
Thanks for this comparison video! I spent a lot of time researching packs and landed on the Fairview 40. I got the Farpoint Daypack separate to add, but I'm not a fan of the water pouches or the opening. I might send it back and get the Daylite Plus instead. Was glad that was included in this review.
I got the daylite plus not long ago. Used it for an overnight for a wedding I attended and it was just right.
Hi, did you get the daylite plus in the end? And if so, did you find it could clip onto the Fairview 40?
@@leilakikuchi-house6750 hey! thanks for asking. I did end up getting the daylite plus, but I wouldn't say it clips easily into the Fairview 40. It's possible to snake the clips of the daylite through some loops on the fairvew, but it wasn't the most secure. And with the amount I was packing into both bags (moving overseas as opposed to hiking), it ended up balancing oddly. I also needed stuff out of the daylite frequently, so in the end I just wore it on my front. But I do use the daylite daily as a backpack. I'm glad I bought it.
This was great. I have the olde version of the Fairview 40 and really hate the computer in the front, it puts too much weight on my shoulders, hearing about this new version makes me want to up grade, thank you!
Thanks. I was a bit confused because I watched their video about the Farpoint 55 trek and it didn't include a daypack, but then was watching review videos on YT where it did. "Trek" and "new version/edition" are the key words :) I think I need more space than the 40, but maybe not if I include the daypack, which I know I'll want. So now I'm wondering if the 55 Trek plus a daypack is going to be too much.
Super helpful, thank you! I already own a Daylite Plus and am looking for a new carry-on pack or duffel. This made the decision easy. Farpoint 40 it is.
Glad this made the decision easy!
Did you buy it? I have been using the Fairview 40 for 3 years now but thinking I’m gonna get the daylight to match!
@@paigestatham6363 no ended up changing my mind and getting the Cotopoxi Allpa 42L instead. I think the Farpoint probably would be more comfortable than the Allpa. I'm happy with the Allpa though - the internal organization is great.
This video was exactly what I was looking for. I'm going to be getting a backpack for my son and I was having a hard time figuring out what the new Farpoint 55 looked like. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing review! Everything I wished to know about these bags. Thanks a lot!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video!! I thought the same of the Farpoint 55, and choose the same option you recommend: Farpoint 40 + Daylite Plus! I'm glad that I chose correctly before watching this video.
I was considering farpoint 40 vs farpoint 55 and decided on the 55 because the main bakcpack has more space for clothes. That was one reason and the other the daypack incorporated with the 55 is perfect when i just need to explore a city and i would never buy a 15l backpack. The initial idea was to give it to my gf but after using it i changed my mind. Shockingly it can hold a fair amount of stuff too. The opening was weird for a couple of tries but i got used to it very fast. I choose the 55 because the 40 is not suitable for a expensive laptop and for that i have a couple of everkis. The daypack coming with de farpoint 55 it can hold a 16 inch laptop but doesn't provide much protection. Ultimately I found the farpoint 55 at 150 euros and the 40 was 125 euros so not such a big difference. I'm really happy with the 55. If i didn't have the evekis for my laptos i would have bought the 40 though.
Alex, where did you find the backpacks for theses prices?
Great to know the daypack can hold a 16inch laptop!
I ended up going for the 55 for the exact same reasons
The older model of the 55 was a lot bulkier than the 40 so now that changed and both 55 and 40 are the same .. thanks for your video.
Can the daylite plus clip onto the front backpack straps of the Fairview 40? I’ve been trying to find an answer about whether they’re compatible to wear the daylite on your front!!!
Thanks for the review! I bought the 40 not knowing there is a new version out and was so confused wondering where that one compartment was, lol.
Great review, thank you. The PeakDesign packing cubes which fit well in the Farpoint 40…which size?
I’m glad I came across this video, I thought I was going crazy seeing different models of the same bag. You mentioned your camera cube didn’t fit into the daylite bag, and then proceeded to show your peak design packing cubes. Any chance that camera cube was also from peak design, and if so which size (s/m/l) didn’t fit into it? Does the cube fit into the daylite plus by chance? I need to pickup a bag that can accommodate some camera gear so your video has already been super helpful. Thank you!
Hah yeah that must have be confusing! Glad to clear it up. The camera cube is by Tropicfeel and not necessarily one I recommend, I just had it laying around from another review. I think they do just one size so you could check the dimensions. I shoot micro four thirds which means the lenses are smaller than typical, but it was still too much to have a camera with 3 lenses. The daylite sadly isn't very wide at the bottom
@@indietraveller Amazing, 5 month old video and you reply within a day. I will check for the dimensions of that cube, it’s unfortunate they don’t fit in day bags. My search may continue..
Thanks again, keep up the great work!
@@ZeFlaw Cheers, good luck deciding on your bag! 👍
According to Osprey Europe website the new Farpoint 40 and Farpoint 55 have exactly the same size (?): 55x35x23cm
from my understanding, the Farpoint 55 is essentially a 40 Liter pack with a 15 liter daypack on top of it.
If the Farpoint 40 has effectively the same volume as the Farpoint 55 minus its (useless) daypack, I'd rather buy the 40 as it comes with an integrated laptop sleeve and combine that with a better daypack like the Daylite Plus.
Yeah I agree, I personally prefer this too!
@@indietraveller I'm actually also thinking of doing this combo. Seems better! Is it possible to attach the newer versions of Daylite Plus to the Farpoint 40, 2022?
(Forgot to mention that my big question is if its possible to attach the Daylite Plus at the front of Farpoint 40)
@@askjord no they don't have the needed clip. Can only attach to the back...
@@indietraveller they actually have clips for it
Great video by the way!
Was leaning towards the 55 but you certainly nailed the pros and cons of each solution. Can you comfortably wear the Daylite Plus in turtle shell mode with the FP40? Also, I feel it's a downside to end up with 2 laptop compartments (one in the 40 and another in the Daylite), as you loose some packing space in the main bag. I personally always carry my laptop in my daypack when transiting from A to B so it'll stay with me when boarding a bus, train or plane.
I find turtle shell is comfortable enough for 30 min or something... just enough for getting to your terminal / bus /etc. It's true that the two packs have some feature overlap. I think what tilted me to the 40 is that I can also use it standalone more easily, otherwise the 55 has advantages for sure
@@indietraveller Definitely a trade off. It leaves to wonder if Osprey will release other daypacks that will be compatible with the Farpoint's shoulder strap clips!
My wish is that they make the laptop company removable in the 40. I never carry a laptop.
@@indietraveller How can you attach the Daylite Plus to the front of the FP40 for turtleshell carry? I heard it doesnt have the buckles that would connect to the farpoint shoulderstraps.
@@kilbeam99 Yeah it doesn't have the right buckles. So instead of attaching you'd wear both sets of straps over your shoulders
Hey thanks for the vid! Got a question for you about the daypacks. One of the things I like about the Farpoint daypack is that it's small enough to be considered a "personal item" for flights. Do you think that would consistently be the case with the Daylight+? Or is it big enough that it would have to be a carry on? Thanks
You're welcome! I'm confident it'll go as a personal item without problems. (Unless there's some kind of airline with crazy restrictions I don't know about)
@@indietravellersadly they are a tad to big for European carriers.
Excelente question, I was thinking the same. I have a trip plan out to visit Europe in November. 🙏
Best comparison video of this backpacks! keep it up!
Thanks Simon!
Do you think the trek 55 is too much for 6 months is south east Asia?, I bought the Farpoint 40 and just don’t think I’ll be able to fit everything in or meet the weight limit for carry on, even using compression cubes!
First carefully assess what you're packing... I have some tips here www.indietraveller.co/how-to-pack-light/ I did 9 months in SEA with a FP40+daypack. If you still think it'll be too small, then move to a FP55 :)
Thanks for the video, I've waiting for this review for a few weeks. I have a couple of questions. are the clips of the old farpoint 55 daypack compatible with the new farpoint 40?? and what are the dimensions of the new farpoint daypack laptop space?? I have a macbook pro 14 inch and I don't know if it will fit in it. I have an older farpoint 55 and I try to figure out to buy a new one o just buy the farpoint 40 and keep the old daypack, Thanks!!
Great questions! I don't have an answer to your first one as I don't have my old FP55 anymore, so I don't know. As for question 2 I just put my Macbook Air 13" in the FP55 daypack laptop sleeve and there is about 3cm or 1.2 inch of space to spare. Macbook Air is 11.97 inches wide, MacBook pro 14" is 12.31 inch wide (according to google) so yes I'd say it will fit just fine :) Hope this helps!
The back panel on that daypack is just ridiculous and in my opinion makes it absolutely useless. How uncomfortable and sweaty would it be to wear that daypack on a whole day of sightseeing. For this reason I went with the 40 and will buy a seperate quality daypack instead, something like the Talon 22 or Hikelite backpacks.
Did you end up going with the Talon or Hikelite? If so, how did/do you like that set up? I assume you lose the ability to connect the day pack with the 40L; and just double strap hold them?
if Farpoint is really full the attachment of the daylite still doable?
Nice review however would of preferred it had you shown us how the peak design packing cubes fit into the osprey farpoint 40l!! Maybe a new video of this. As I like to see this in videos.
Good feedback. Maybe I'll do a video just about packing cubes
@@indietraveller would be very interested in that video! As not many videos on how none osprey packing cubes fit into their backpacks!
I noticed your version of the 40 has lockable zippers for the laptop sleeve. The new one at REI has 1 zipper and a fabric loop at the top. Have you seen this and do you know if there were other changes? Seems like a design flaw.
Hmmm I see... weird! Seems like REI and Osprey's site have slightly different product images. Not sure what's up with that
Great comparison and showcasing!
Hi thank you very much, I've been on the hunt for a Farpoint 40 and your advice on the day pack has me intrigued. I have a "standard" maybe 20-25L backpack I use to carry my laptop to and from work, would the Daylite Plus fulfil that requirement? If so, makes that purchase more valuable than just for travelling. Conversely, how do you feel about using a Farpoint 40 as a day pack if it isn't filled to the brim, eg. Farpoint 40 + Suitcase, and Farpoint 40 is 1/3-1/2 full most of the time until the end of the trip for additional souvenirs, thinking of that approach for a 2 week trip.
I've actually been using the Daylite lately at home as a day-to-day backpack for my laptop and a few other things. It's fine for that purpose (but not perfect, it's not quite made for this).
The FP40 would definitely feel too big for me as a daypack, even if not fully loaded. The back panel has a stiff frame around it so it will feel full-size (at least vertically) even when not packed. You could still do it of course, but personally I'd feel it would be a bit odd and too large.Just my 2 ct :)
@@indietraveller Thanks for the reply! I watched the entire video again. I've tried on a Farpoint 40 w/ a 8kg weight, and it felt fine, was adjusted, so I bought that - very happy, the laptop sleeve and larger mesh vs. the 55 I prefer I think. When it came to daypacks the shop assistant mentioned the daylite plus, there are zips exposed so if your bigger pack is on you and some pick pocket had the opportunity while it's there, those exposed pockets/zips are potentially unusable if you're concerned, and that steered me to the farpoint day pack. Lastly, I feel I'll use the combo for maybe a few hours at a time at most, basically between cities I guess, the day pack for longer (3-4 hour stints) but with far less in it. I will miss the drink pouches and the ribbed back, wish me luck and thanks again, great video.
Love that blue color for the 40!
I totally understand what you're saying with the various situations in which you may find yourself and what you feel like doing in those contexts because I think the same way. Anyway, what is the length of the non-flexible part of the back of the Trek 55? I'm still wondering if I could use it as a carry on even if it's not officially carry on compliant.
Just measured it just for you ;) The hard part is 64cm tall, so I guess that's about 9 cm over the usual limit.
@@indietraveller Thanks! That's not as bad as I thought, but still a little bit too risky to use it on a regular basis as a carry on. I don't understand how Osprey can make dozens of all kinds of packs that is becoming almost hard to tell the difference between their functionalities. but never thought of making a 45-47 liter Farpoint Trek. One that would not be carry-on compliant officially, but with which you'd have no problem using it as a carry on on most airlines and which would have all the advantages of the Trek version for longer walks and heavier loads. They seem to be either super particular about being carry on compliant, to the extent that the bag becomes too small or weirdly shaped, or they just completely give up on the idea of carry on and create these extremely long backpacks. Girls are luckier since the Fairview Trek 50 is almost perfect, but even for an average height male, it doesn't fit at all - I tried one once and the hip belt was almost on my chest. Anyway, thanks for these videos and enjoy your travels!
@@annndddrre Yeah that's a great point, I would love to see such a product myself too. Happy travels!
@@annndddrre the Fairview Trek 50 is a bit shorter than the Trek 55. Still too big for carry on but a bit closer to the size you're after. If possible, try it on in a store and compare it. It's the female version of the bag but is almost similar to all other ways. I'm unsure what the length of the hard inflexible part of the bag is and if that is the same length for both bag types but it might be worth investigating more. Below are both bag total dimensions according to the stores that sell them.
Fairview Trek 50: 62H x 38W X 32D cm
Farpoint Trek 55: 72H x 39W x 31D cm
@@DanielGimenez Thanks.. I had actually tried the Fairview thinking exactly along the lines of your message. But unfortunately, the Fairview is really tailored for women, meaning that it's meant for short torsos. And even though I'm not a tall guy (5'9''), as soon as I put the Fairview on my back, I realized it's nowhere near acceptable. It was for a way way shorter torso than mine.
I have the newest Fairview 40 and the newest Porter 46. There is no comparison for one bag travel: Porter all day since the changes to the Fairview.
The newer Fairview is a disappointment.
1. CORRECTION The laptop sleeve location does have a zipper to access from the outside without having to open the clamshell
2. No organization pockets on the walls of the inside main compartment.
3. The curved backboard is awesome on cooling the back, and you lose volume space as a result.
4. Top small pocket is just that...small.
5. No shoe sleeve.
6. One size fits all torso adjustment takes more adjusting with changes in pack load or strap adjustments.
I'm still an Osprey Fan.
@Autonomous you are correct. My apologies, there is a zipper for side access to the laptop
Hi - I have an older Porter 46 with the non ventilated back and no hip belt - so no good for heavier loads that the Porter 46 can accommodate size-wise (the 46L seem like large litres for this pack!). I was looking to the Trek 55 to give me a more comfortable carry (mesh back/proper hip belt) but I'm concerned that it isn't officially carry on size - do you think the new Porter 46 would give me a proper hip belt that I need? Thanks
Sorry - a quick question - do you think the 46L vs 40L ratings are realistic for the 2 packs or are they closer in capacity than the official numbers would suggest? Thanks. Mark
that's exactly what I've opted for. Fairview 40+ daylite plus makes a perfect match;-)
Hi there! Did you end up purchasing that combo? If so, how has it worked for you? I am trending towards the Farpoint and daylite plus too. I liked that the 40l would have a computer sleeve too.
I just bought the farpoint 55 old version and 2022 version to see which one is better and the newer version weighs so much more. I think more than a pound more than the previous version. What are your thoughts on this. When travelling weight is important, it makes no sense, why they would make a heavier product
Yeah that's annoying. I chose the 40 i may end up getting buyers remorse but at least i don't have to stress about weight as much
How much wieght do the plastic clips connecting the daypack to the main backpack support? I have a hard time imagining I would be confident letting my laptop hang in front of me if those two clips are the only things supporting it.
Hi. If it still helps, I have the older Fairview 55 (the one with a zipper to attach it + the buckles) and I never used it with the Daypack attached for this reason. It just weighs the backpack down too much, as your tech and water (which it's usually the heaviest) will be in the daypack, to the point you don't even feel the loadlifters anymore. I imagine that now, with only buckles, it will drag the backpack down even more. I spent 2 years in Asia and loved the main pack but the "attachment" system, never worked for me.
I own a Farpoint 40 M/L size and Farpoint 55 S/M size (both bought in 2016, e.g. the preceding model) and just did the test: There's NO WAY I can fit the contents of a reasonably tight packed Farpoint 55 (only counting the main pack here, not using the included daypack!) into the Farpoint 40, well it might work if using brute force and turning the Farpoint 40 into a compression bag but that's not how I packed the 55 in the first place or how I want to travel. On top of that a fully loaded Farpoint 40 budges out like a turtle with horrible weight distribution whereas the Farpoint 55 has a more convenient straight shape with weight much closer to my back and an even front surface that is far better suited to strap my daypack of choice onto it (I use an Osprey Daylite Plus). So based on my first hand experience the "old" Farpoint 55 S/M is clearly the superior carry-on backpack. I honestly never understood the fuss about the Farpoint 40, at the expense of matching official carry-on size lengh Osprey designed a pack that doesn't carry well when fully packed and it doesn't fit in tighter overhead compartments either due to it's awkward turtle like shape. Please note that the Farpoint 55 S/M is significantly shorter (59cm measured) than the Farpoint 55 M/L (66cm measured in store) that's why I bought the shorter S/M in the first place, despite being a 5'11 male. I'm aware that 59cm length is technically still above the official carry-on size limit (
You are comparing different things. The older version of Farpoint 55 was not carry on compliant (even without the daypack) as the dimension and build is different compared to the Farpoint 40. The newest generation (2023) Farpoint 40 and 55 are basically the same in regards to the dimensions.
So you could basically use both as carry on?
@@Clim0711The most newest version yes. Older one, no.
I have the old version of this bag end it is a dream. And I don't like that zips for zipper the are so visibles (red) in this version.
Also, my new Farpoint has two zipper poles on the computer section
what camera cube you recomend?
How will you compare the 40 to the Cotopaxi Allpa42?
Both good packs, different pros & cons imo. FP40 light and simple, fantastic harness. Allpa OK harness, bit heavier, but amazing internal organization
Osprey crippled the 55 version main bag so the the mediocre day pack is needed. I do like the 40 as it does NOT have the "administration" or "tech" compartments which are a waste of SPACE and create confusing zippers, IMO.
Great review. Did 40L fit the dimensions of cheap airlines ?
Pzdr z PL ;)
No problem with RyanAir...
Does the laptop sleeve on the 40 take away any space from the main compartment?
Not really. It takes up only a little bit of space if you're not using it
Hey Marek looks like you're missing a zipper pull at 6:05
Yeah I only noticed that as I was filming! wondering if it's a manufacturing error
I have seen quite a few farpoints and fairviews and they were all missing that certain pull.
Very helpful, thanks!
great vid, brother! thanks!
Would you say the farpoint 55 trek is too large for carry on/ backpacking?
Definitely too large for carry on (you'll need to check it in). But I think it can be great for backpacking... e.g. backpacking Europe using trains, overlanding in South America, when you don't strictly need it to be carry on
the men's Farpoint 55 Trek is definitely too big for carry on, it might work sometimes if you're lucky but I wouldn't feel comfortable traveling like this. The female version "Fairview Trek 50" is significantly shorter and should work most of the time, I did something similar for the last 6 years by using a Farpoint 55 in S/M size that is technically 5cm longer than what officially allowed in europe (60 vs 55cm), however due to still "looking small" was never even once rejected by any airline.
can the fairview be used by men? i have foun a good price for the fairview 40. please help me to not regret the choice. thank you
Not sure but I imagine it's fine. Check the seller's return policy just in case...
Despite watching the whole video it's still unclear to me if the Farpoint 40 now has the same size (e.g. volume) as the new Farpoint 55 main pack. Can you elaborate on that?
Farpoint 55 is actually 40 + 15 (of the daypack). Hope it helps!
I mentioned that at one point :) Yes the main pack of the 55 and the 40 are now exactly the same dimensions/volume
@Indie Traveller Well you definitely mentioned that point in your written review which was a great read btw, however I did the test myself (owning both bags) and call that claim BS, I left a more elaborate comment on top for better visibility and further discussion. IMO Ospreys ambition to match official carry-on size/length makes the new Farpoint 55 an inferior product.
what’s the percentage chance that the Farpoint 55 is allowed on as carry on ?
100% if the daypack is attached and the airline allows a personal item. Exception is if airline is unusually strict (I'm just thinking of the usual size limits here)
@@indietraveller really ? i thought the porter 46 was technically the max size limit for carry on ? suprised that a 55 farpoint would be allowed in the cabin too... i guess airlines are different , but i thought the 55 farpoint would be a guaranteed No all the time...
@@jamesrosales89 The 55 consists of a 40 liter backpack (same size as FP40) and a detachable 15 liter daypack
best review forever
IS THERE ANY DIFFERENT BEETWEN WOMAN AND MEN VERSIO? I WANTED TO BUY A 55 WOMAN VERSION BUT ITS SAID THAT IS ION THE SAME SIZE AS 70 ONE, IS IT A TRUTH? AND THE MAN 55 IS SMALLER
Fairviews are slightly smaller (by a few liter), different color options, and have a women's specific fit. Features are the same
Trek 55 cant be carry-on for airline?
No the trek will be too big
5 star ❤
An ‘ultimate’ travel pack review where you don’t do any travel or pack anything
This is not a packing video, but I do share how I pack here :) www.indietraveller.co/how-to-pack-light/
@@indietraveller You need to PACK and then TRAVEL to do a review otherwise it's just another bloke sitting in his spare room talking and pointing.
Thanks for the feedback. There's no time for me to film backpack reviews on location, however I always take a pack on at least one trip.
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1 minute ? Gosh...
There's no review of the Fairview as per the click baity title...
Did you watch the beginning where I explain the features are the same?
@@indietraveller I've watched the entire video. The new version of the Fairview 40 is not the same as the older version. The laptop compartment is in the back on the newer 2023 version, the newer is now size adjustable as opposed to 2 different sizes, and the water bottle front lid storage is larger and goes right through the middle as opposed to 2 separate compartments on the older version...
@@wl5609 All that is covered in the video :) The new Farpoint has the same features as the new Fairview. The old Farpoint has the same features as the old Fairview.