Cursed Spirit Manipulation Explained - Jujutsu Kaisen
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- Опубликовано: 19 мар 2022
- Cursed Spirit Manipulation Explained. What it is, how it functions, along with several other factors in Jujutsu Kaisen that lead to you understanding EVERYTHING you need to know about Geto's Cursed Spirit Manipulation. Hope you guys enjoy.
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Now that Yuta has come back in the manga and his goal is killing Kenjaku, i used to think the fight would be unfair seeing how Yuta is much stronger now, but i remembered Kenjaku has Mahito's idle manipulation
When he get mahitos idle manipulation and how I skipped shibuya and I’m only caught up to recent chapters
@@cameronprice420 mfw you skip a top 3 shonen ark of all time
@@cameronprice420 Why would you skip an arc that has multiple major advancements in the story then ask someone to explain something you intentionally skipped?
@@cameronprice420 why did you skip shibuya?
Yuta can mimic techniques so he has become a power house himself
Getou's techniques is so OP that they literally ranked him special grade. Kenjaku would be incredibly OP due to his knowledge combined with his technique would create a devastating combination
Curses aren't exorcised before capture, just weakened.
If capturing exorcised curses was possible, Kenjaku would've been able to capture Jogo after Sukuna got to him.
Not true. Geto verbatim states in chapter 76 that he exists in an "endless cycle of exorcism and consumption" so he does exorcises curses in some circumstances. He doesn't ALWAYS have to exorcise the curses but he does exorcise many of the curses he takes under his control. The reason he doesn't do this with Jogo is because he didn't exorcise Jogo himself and wasn't there to pick up his remains
@@BrokenRonin
Then I have a question for yeah.
Why did Mahito get absorbed by Kenjaku even though he did not exorcise him?
Yes I am aware of the fact that you mentioned that this does not apply to all of them but then it raises another question.
When does he have to exorcise them and when does he not?
@@BrokenRonin I’m going to have to disagree on this one. It’s semantics of exorcising & consuming (it could’ve be half & half or one process) the idea of first exorcising a curse like other JJKer’s do it’s obvious that the curse would be unable to be “extracted” his power is/ was closer to a Pokémon trainer and a pokeball.
You’re right, Geto can’t absorb exorcised curses. He basically states it cause Kenjaku says he wished he had been able to get Jogo too and by then he was dead already.
I want ask what will if another sorcerer ate geto's cursed energy orbs?
4:52 There are no extra stipulations. The point of that scene was to state that if the difference in grade level is 2 or more, then Geto does not have to consume the spirit before manipulating it. Either that, or he is able to immediately condense it into the orb without weakening it first. If he could condense any spirit he saw into an orb, then the technique would be unrivaled. It's assumed that spirits around his level would need to be defeated first.
The downside of cursed spirit manipulation is the same downside that a gun would have; once it's out of bullets, it's pretty much useless. The usefulness of the technique is proportional to the amount of cursed spirits a user has. If you don't have a giant stockpile of cursed spirits, then you pretty much don't have a cursed technique. This is a pretty big upfront cost for the technique, and more than enough of a downside.
Speaking of cursed spirit manipulation there was so much of it in the new JJK movie which was so lit 🔥😍 I watched it yesterday definitely a must watch
High tier mid 😂 all you need is the power of love lmao
Imo the movie had bad pacing. It wasnt a bad movie but not as good as i was hearing. Overall i still enjoyed it but the pacing was more apparent on my second viewing.
@@wingsof5stack390 Yeah, I think that comes from it being adapted from the prequel manga, a single volume that was the first Jujutsu Kaisen content that Akutami ever made.
@@notjazz. I mean, considering that Jujutsu is powered by negative emotions, it was. Spoilers:
It's love twisted into a curse that made the cursed spirit Rika in the first place. Part of what makes Yuta so powerful is the obsessive nature of his love. So yeah, it was LITERALLY the power of love.
@@joyc.e.7511 ribrianne would be pleased
Kenjaku could use this ability to get lord tengen. If he absorbs him like Mahito he is the new lichtpin of the jujutsu world. At least that's seems to be his goal
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I’m so hyped for that Yuki, Choso, Kenjaku, and possibly Tengen fight. There’s so many potential outcomes, because we still don’t know Yuki’s technique or whether or not Yuki is completely on Choso’s side.
only tengen isn't a cursed spirit
@@mrnelis8037 he is actually, because he doesn't stop aging, his body reaches a point that it no longer becomes human and starts to become a cursed spirit (that's why he has such a weird design for a human) tho he's not entirely a cursed spirit, a good majority of his being is, so he's a target for Kenjaku's cursed spirit manipulation
@@Skyyyreaper he is not, his innate cursed technique is 'immortality', but he doesn't stop aging. so if he doesn't merge with a vessel in time he transcend humanity and becomes an entity what 'resembles' a cursed spirit. pseudo-geto wanted to get tengen-sama he wouldn't get through so much hassle te get to him..
Honestly, curse manipulation sounds way more promising than ten shadow shinigami
On paper it DEFINITELY is
@@BrokenRonin facts can you imagine if they combine all the advantages of the curse manipulation techniques and the ten shadow technique to be together, and remove all disadvantages forget maa
a csm user could probably just dump a shit ton of cursed spirits on mahoraga's ahh and it wouldn't be able to adapt@@Daniel-Adanri
curse manipulation is the best ct bro
Wait till Megumi screams: "With this treasure I summon-"
So in order to have powerful curses at your disposal you basically have to turn a blind eye and let these curse spirits grow powerful and then you can exercise them when they’ve reached peak
Or you could slowly build up stronger curses by using what you have to take it down, then using those new stronger curses to get more stronger curses. Rags to riches.
@@sobervision1049 overwhelm stronger curses with innumerable weaker but effective curses? Numbers don't always win wars.
If I'm going up against Sukuna and I wanna add him to my collection. The amount of 1st grade curses alone would have to number in the high hundreds. And on top of that Maximum Uzumaki would be best served when his CE reserves are at 0 if they get that low.
@@madambutterfly1997 I didnt mean to say rely on numbers but I mean in order to have strong curses you need to start from scratch and use weak curses to get slightly less weak curses to get slightly stonger curses to get slightly stronger curses and once you have strong enough curses you can get many strong curses to get almost any curse you want, not just because you have numbers but because you also have powerful quality contenders to take that powerful curse with ease. Cases like Sukuna would still be nearly impossible.
@@madambutterfly1997 sukuna isn’t a curse spirit lol, go read the manga again
@@madambutterfly1997 sukuna one shot blitz a city no curse spirit can damage him, a 15 finger sukuna clapped jogo not even trying
If I was Kenjaku I would’ve just exercised the disaster curse spirits and added them to my arsenal. I’m not gonna risk a loose cannons like Mahito or Jogo throwing a wrench in my plans just cuz they lack self control.
The reason he let's them fight is for their development, because he let Mahito fight and grow stronger he was able to steal a much more powerful and potent Idle Transfiguration
@@BrokenRonin fair enough
First off that's a badass ability! 2nd great video man. Some of these concepts tend to go over my head while reading the manga but you always make them so easy to understand so I really appreciate it. Looking forward to the next one man
Glad you enjoyed the video! And im really happy that im able to break down these concepts for you
@@BrokenRonin You're awesome at what you do man! Every video I learn something that helps me to understand more about the series as a whole and the characters in them. Keep up the awesome work my man!
If I was in JJK I would want this curse technique. Despite the many problems that come from it like if you’re killed while you still have cursed spirits inside you then your body becomes a whole nuke of curses.
Wow really ? Where was it stated in the manga ?
@@vaibhavkumar9072 when Toji chose not to kill Geto after beating him
@@madambutterfly1997 make sense
@@vaibhavkumar9072 it's not stated, Toji just says he doesn't know what is gonna happen if he kills Geto and didn't wanna risk him becoming a nuke of curses
@@madambutterfly1997 it's not stated, Toji just says he doesn't know what is gonna happen if he kills Geto and didn't wanna risk him becoming a nuke of curses
Broken Ronin vids are the highlights of my week bro
Kenjaku seriously got very lucky in getting his body , I mean getting a body of special grade sorcerer with that broken ability stars were definitely on his side
I was having a bad day idk what it is I just haven't been doing well and seeing your notification made me smile
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the ironic thing is that he himself believes him to be less than Gojo,
well, maybe but he’s definitely one of the top contender for the strongest if he tried for it.
he believes he's less than gojo because he is less than gojo, very much so
Yo keep up the great content man it's paying off 😊
loving this explained type of videos will wait for more!
Been looking for a JJK content creator for a minute love the vids.
Thanks for explaining this, definitely adds more context now that the movie is out 🙌🏽
Hey Broken! Excellent video as always, this one in particular has risen a question I assume many have and I'd hope you tackle soon - What is a Shikigami, how are they different from curses, and a more detailed explanation of is the difference between a curse manipulator and a Shikigami user.
Waiting for the movie review!
Great video has always
There's incredible versatility to this technique and it's only limited by his ability to catch Cursed Spirits. Not even his own strength is a limit because he can let others kill the Curse for him.
There was no better body for Kenjaku to steal than Geto's because of this ability.
Great analysis.
Probably my favorite ability in the series. Its potential and versatility are nearly limitless, and I’ve always found “summoner” abilities to be very cool.
It's sort of like a very dark take on being a Pokemon trainer, or even something out of Shin Megami Tensei. I wouldn't be surprised if Gege was inspired to create the ability from the latter of my examples.
Dude i fully feel the same like FULLY
I think Shikigami and Cursed Spirit is different entities. Shikigami is more like mythical and special creatures that are born and exist specifically, while Cursed Spirit is more of a manifestation of collective's negative emotion that created cursed energy as their soul's foundation.
Shikigami always been present by mythical beast and entities, while Cursed Spirit present by a very wide random creatures, from mindless crook to complete human impersonation.l.
no. Shikigami is any cursed spirit that is thamed and used by a sorcerer, examples of shikigami users are Megumi, Yuta, Toji and the old dude from the flashback arc.
@coca_0146 how maharoga and NUE can use POSITIVE energy if it curses are weak against it
Damn , ash Ketchum went off the deep end
🤣🤣
He grew up
Bro I wish this ability was in Bleach 😂 , Hollow manipulation technique sounds great right
OP Zanpakutou ability
The most busted ability in the series no cap
Yuta, Gojo, Gero and sukuna(potentially) have my favorite tachniques honestly.
Geto's cursed technique is better than 10 shadows imo
You think Geto beats Mahoraga? Gojos ancestor with six eyes + limitless couldn't even beat mahoraga. Although 15 finger sukuna did with low difficulty... so maybe the ancestor started the fight exhausted from already fighting the 10 shadows user. Idk
I don't think Geto wins against a 10 shadows user if mahoraga is on the field. If no mahoraga, then yes Geto probably does win. But no way are any of his cursed spirits stronger than mahoraga, even sukuna admitted he would have lost if he was fighting him back when he had only regained 1 finger. And that same 1 finger sukuna absolutely bodied the special grade (the white one from the beginning who cut off Yuji's hand, then sukuna took over, healed the hand, and casually 1 shotted it lol
That's a special grade curse, that he bodied with zero effort
Geto posseses special grade curses, but if that's the difference in power between a special grade and I try
If Geto wins vs 10 shadows then it would be due to the sheer range of his types of attacks. If he started the fight with an Uzumaki, if mahoraga tanked or dodged it Geto would be completely fucked. He'd have no cursed spirits left to fight with. If he has all his cursed spirits he could keep no matter how many times mahoraga adapts. Well, at least a few thousand times. Until he runs out of different attacks.
@@vch309 wrong, many previous six eyes + limitless users have died facing 10 shadows users. Gojo tells megumi about a 10 shadows user and a six eyes / limitless user who killed each other. Mahoraga seems like the most likely explanation for how that happened. Especially because when megumi summons mahoraga he thinks to himself that the previous ten shadows user must have "used it this way too"
Basically, six eyes / limitless users have fought mahoraga and died.
@@whirlwind872 first of all not all 6eyes are strong buddy
@@stephen_dummy566 on what basis do you say that buddy
@@whirlwind872 gojo is the strongest shaman ever stronger than any other users of six eyes
I have a question, who is better in using cursed spirit manipulation?? Is it Geto or Kenjaku?? I think it's kenjaku because we never saw Geto use maximum uzumaki to gain more techniques so Idk if he just didn't know about that or it wasn't so useful for him.
Maximum techniques are really cool, and I hope Gege goes more indepth in explaining them and how does a character achieve something like that.
Good question.id say geto cause he can only use it .kenjaku can use other CT.it like superman vs flash when it comes to running.
They are most likely equal in terms of ability competency however Kenjaku is more likely to be smarter and wiser in general which likely gives him a leg up
Didn't Getou use Maximum Uzumaki in volume 0?
@@BrokenRonin I think it's experience that gives Kenjaku the upper hand. Because the technique is getou's so he should know the heights and limitations
I just think Getou is actually OP.
If getou had Rika, he could actually go up against gojou, he might not win but he could go up
You began working on this last month I really thought you'd but all your attention on projection sorcery as its really hard to understand and explain but dam
Great video but I think you also failed to mention that if you think about it he could have multiple domains not of his own but of the curse spirits tht he has... Which give him a whole new element to combat which is troublesome
Broken ronin my guy please review ch 178 of jujutsu kaisen, it was amazing.
That chapter had me screaming when I saw the triple domains
Check out the "Honored Ones Podcast", on that channel I talk about and review every jjo chapter and I'll be giving my thoughts on that chapter soon
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I think the condition in Geto's power to absorb stronger curses is that he has to defeat them while weaker curses can be absorbed automatically.
Geto and Kenjaku have both absorbed special grade curses so its doesn't really seem like something that hard, so much so that kenjaku was helping the disaster curses get stronger, planning to later absorb them.
I think his powers work pretty much the same as capturing pokemons in the games. For weak pokemons you can you can just throw a good enough poke ball, since Geto is a special grade it would be like throwing an ultra ball, but for stronger pokemons you need to weaken them before throwing the poke ball.
I have a random idea for this techniques domain expansion,
So idk about its design but the sure hit is basically a cursed spirit from the users collection is selected at random for each target of the domain, then the targets recieve a constant swarm of that curse spirit but there are copies of them, the amount of copies is basically how many of the cursed spirit to be 3 times stronger than the target so if the cursed spirit is equal to your strength then you'll be constantly fighting 3 at a time with each time you exorcise one another will appear but there will never be more than 3 times the strength
1 of the most OP and versatile cursed techniques
Kenjaku (probably can use this technique better/smarter than what Geto did) with this and idle transfiguration so much dangerous than Geto
Even when your not doing what ifs your still fire
Can you make a video explaining kenjakus backstory and grand plan?
nice vide cursed corpuses next please
gotta catch em all
That’s badass.
Finally MAXIMUM CURSE TECHNIQUES
Please do Straw Doll Technique next!
Great video, just one question. I thought Geto said that he lied about needing conditions when absorbing high level cursed spirits. The curse just has to be untamed/ not possessing someone for him to grab and eat it.
I wouldn't understand a lot of these Cursed Techniques if you hadn't made videos on them.
I'm glad I could help you understand these abilities man
So, he's basically a pokemon trainer.
Yeh
👀 people aren't ready to hear that this is the strongest curse technique. Yeah limitless is nice and all, but uzumakis ability to consume other curse techniques literally means Geto & Kenny have no actual power limit
Great video though *hopefully Geto returns at some point soon*
Did you just call it uzumaki lol
@@Joe-ew7xe I know Geto's cursed technique isn't uzumaki. I just meant that the ability uzumaki has to consume high level curses cursed techniques is what makes cursed spirit manipulation the strongest technique IMO
Yeah but what the point, of all those techniques if they can’t surpass infinity anyway quality>quantity
Update:
“Geto” can only use the techniques extracted from maximum Uzumaki 1 time, as speculated and confirmed in his fight with Yuki, Choso and tengen.
I wonder are we going to meet another curse manipulator ,cause supposly taming curses and using domain can be done by most sorcers.
if you dont mind me asking what do you use to edit videos
Your mic has improved and your voice is becoming a bit more confident as well, I still really think you’d benefit from a vocal coach though to sound more refined.
So it’s like being a Pokémon trainer but for cursed spirits.
And their stomach is their PC box.
This is for you your voice sound familiar did you used to do what if’s cuz I rember you is it possible you have another Channel?
Damn it’s been a year without your what ifs
When’s the next podcast episode gonna drop BR?
Geto be the ultimate Pokemon trainer
The question that always comes to mind in a manga or story like Jujutsu Kaisen is "How did he find out he had this Cursed Technique?"
Jujutsu High prolly tought him about it & innate techniques tends to manifest their effects at the age of 5-6 (on people who are born with innate techniques of course) & Jujutsu High is most likely aware whenever somebody's innate technique awakens & then through god knows what process of convincing them to become a Sorceror they join Jujutsu High
5:24 where did gege mention this could you tell me please? like link or something
Ah Shit...I just realized Kenjaku is very very powerful just by the fact he has Idle Transfiguration now. Damn it.
Imagine he eat sukuna or some how eat sukuna soul and leaving yuji body still intact in order to purify or save him later on
The subs in the start video
Cursed amplification explaination plz
OH YEAH
U gotta do a review for the new JJK movie
I 100% am
3:05 so to be clear if he kills a curse that can create and control lightning and like a 100 other curses he has to merge and discard all of the curses under his control in order for himself to have the ability to create and control lightning and by discarding his curses it also serves as an attack not only just a way to extract a technique?
He can choose how many curses to be part of uzumaki. If he has 1000 curses for example, he can just use 100 curses for uzumaki as a big blast. And he can extract a ct from a curse if the curse is at least semi grade 1 or higher if he includes it in uzumaki with lower grade curses. But he can only use the extracted ct once and that curse spirit that he extracted the ct from is gone from his arsneal
But can he take curses that are two grades stronger than him?? Like in know he is special grade and there is no grade beyond it but grades are technically referring to power of an individual. The explanation said that difference in grade has to be two or more, it never said anything about the curse spirit being weaker or stronger. So what if he wants to take someone like sukuna?? Their difference in power is definitely more than 2 grades so can he take him with no condition if somehow sukuna is defeated or weakened??
Newest chapter confirmed that Yuta's cursed technique is "copy"
Explain Yuta's cursed technique.
Geto literally catches them like pokemon
Geto ability is like naraku in inuyasha..
If someone like the taste of rags used to wipe up vomit they could become top 5 in the verse lol.
Imagine how much he’ll need to brush his teeth
Lmao toji “If i murder this guy is he gonna turn into a curse spirit Bomb…. I don’t have time for a curse spirit bomb. Best knock him out”
Basically a Pokemon trainer
Im sorry but the fact geto had to consume the curses....thts probably what led to his descent to madness as well
Or just how messed up the world is🤣🤣
homie should buy desserts after consuming curses
i was thinking would it be useful in real life?
Ok I know gege took inspiration from bleach, but is there any hollow manipulation in there verse, like is there anyone in the novels(yep i read the manga but not the novel) is there a zanpakuto that is capable of manipulating hollows just like sugurus.
Nevermind I forgot aaroniero exist.
😂you went through a lot of emotion's in this post.
If he uses uzumaki to get jogo’s ability is that permanately his? Or does he need to create jogo as a pawn to use it for him? I feel like he can already do this like with the small pox curse using its domain to fight mei Mei for him. If the ability becomes his to use freely, can he still spawn the curse that originally had the ability?
I think Jogo just wanted to absorb it as a fighter.
What you extract in Uzumaki can only be used once.
@@teacherlikeabobdylan so he can never use idle transfiguration again? Or can he do it again if he does Uzumaki in the future? Also, why not just spawn Mahito to do it for him like he did with the small pox curse using domain expansion for him?
@@brennanhilsher9276 Mahito has already been used and died in uzumaki
If you use a spirit that has ct in uzumaki, you can use that spirit's ct only once.
kenjyaku is not interested in mahito, he is just waiting for his ct to grow to use his ct.
@@teacherlikeabobdylan how do we know they can only use it once? All of the other curses still exist after uzumaki so why wouldn’t Mahito? I feel like unless it’s explicitly said it makes more sense that he keeps the technique but loses the curse if that’s the case. If he wants to use IT he could just manifest Mahito and tell him to use it for him and then he’d keep the CT
@@brennanhilsher9276 it's already stated in the manga, once you use a specific curse spirit in uzumaki you keep its ct but it's a one time use only. The thing with uzumaki is you don't have to use up all the curses you have, you can choose how many curses gets piled up to form uzumaki, and if any of them are at least semi-grade 1 or higher you get to keep its ct for a one time use, which he already used up
So like Pokemon but... cursed?
So… he’s a Pokémon trainer?
Yes
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When u realize that kenjaku/geto had to swallow mahitos black balls
Why doesn't Geto season the cursed spirits orbs if it tastes so bad? Put some Slap ya mama on it and it'll go down easier, is he stupid?
Ayyy
My Biggest Question is Is it Innate or can anybody Learn It and Use It?
every curse technique is innate since they're born with it, unless you're toji, maki, yuji and kusakabe. So curse techniques cant be taught since you physically don't have the power in you
@@farsous10 Oh Cause CS Manipulation sounds Like anybody Can use It.Thanks.
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2:53 naruto??
I’m how Busted Curse spirit manipulation would have been in the golden age is sorcerers where evil spirits where strong and abundant.
Pls get a more sensitive mic
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Your killing gojo video is the most biased and bullshit video I have seen asta itachi beating gojo what were you smoking when making that video how will they counter gojo domaine now don't say they can escape it domaine is a guarantee hit as said in manga
Lol
@@BrokenRonin buddy I like your videos on explaining and breaking down thighs but in terms of power scalling you opinions are utter garbage only the askin one I agreed but asta itachi seriously worst take ever
@@messipaingojodicaprioarebe6834 glad you like the videos. Not so glad about you being wrong.
@@BrokenRonin I like your videos and follow your channel but in power scalling you downplayed gojo to a oblivion even thou you are a jjk youtuber itachi needs to send chakra to his opponent and we know infinity negs any attacks that travels so that won't work and amaterasu literally got dodged by raikage who I don't think is faster than infinity lol
Broken ronin i have a question when are you going to stream on twitch again also do you have a discord server
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