Which belt is the blade belt? I go through a couple of belts on the Yard Man every summer. I let the grass grow until the city gives me a warning, mainly because the state is supposed to cut their half of the steep ditch, the 30 (45?😯)-degree slope by the highway, and they are not always doing it, so I ride the Yardman, standing on the upper edge, ready to jump if it topples. I noticed there was a 1/2" twig that managed to dislodge the blade belt before getting sliced up (the belt is still whole). Thanks for the video!
I seem to remember this mower had 2 blade belts. It's been a while so don't quote me! I think there was an engine to deck belt and then a blade belt on the deck itself..
@@JLPicard440 The blade belt is the lower belt (closest to the ground) so you don't have to remove the drive belt to get at or install a new blade belt. In my case, the belt came off, and was whole. The blades stopped and I saw the belt laying in the grass. Earl (the Pearl) our local 86-year-old fix-it guy (he repairs mowers and tractors) said the drive belt was 2" too long and he could not understand how it had worked before. I had mowed the large yard a few times with it. But it was way too loose now, it was obvious it would not work. Curious. Got a belt that was 2" shorter and that worked fine when I mowed yesterday. Still a mystery about the too long belt. Maybe he had wrapped it around an extra pin or something...
@@JLPicard440 I came here to see if you mentioned the belt sizes. I'm not using the part number listed on the hood, because it's not the factory hood! I'm going to my local Tractor Supply store to get all four belts, where they are listed by width and length.
You might be able to find the model number under the seat. From there you can go to www.partstree.com and get the parts breakdown to get the part number. With the part number you can get the correct length and width... 😀@@SPCLPONY
I have the same arrangement on my Huskee 4600 mower deck. My question is, Why is the first pulley after the PTO/flywheel flat instead of a v-belt pulley since the V side of the belt runs around it?
HI, without seeing it I can't be sure. It has been years since I had access to this mower deck. Usually when a pulley is flat it's because the back side of the belt is intended to ride on it and the pulley is grooved because that's where the "V" part of the belt rides. I've never seen one ever, that the "V" side of the belt rides on a flat side of the pulley. If that makes sense.
How about a video on how to change the BOTTOM belt on this deck? I mainly need to know how to remove and replace the tension spring on the lower belt. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Just got this supposedly 2004 Yard machine 46 inch deck. I have the same configuration for the belt as the one you show. Under the hood it shows the engine to deck belt is part #754 O4122. I ordered that belt on ebay and got from a company called Wildcats a belt stamped with this number but it is way too long. I was thinking someone has replaced the deck with a different year deck. But seeing the belt configuration that is stamped on the deck I don;t see how this much longer belt could work on any deck that size. . I also have a 2005 yard machine that originally had a 46 inch deck that has the same belt part number stamped under the hood. But I bought that mower without a deck and put a 42" MTD deck on it from another yard machine. So I have no way of knowing what size belt to try on this machine. I am beginning to believe they stamped the correct part number on the wrong size belt. I may have to go to a local mower parts store and compare the belts. Meanwhile I will try finding out the length of this number belt on the net and if successful measure the one they sent me. Do you have a part number stamped on your machine for the engine to deck belt? If so maybe you could reply with that number so I can compare it to the number I have.
Yeah just found out that the engine to deck belt that I received from Wildcats on ebay for a 46 inch Yard Machine belt number 754-04122 had the correct number stamped on the belt but their belt was over 100 inches long. I looked up the length of the part number and it is suppose to be 90 1/4 inch long. No more Wildcats for me.
Oh wow... a 10 inch plus discrepancy? That's horrible. I don't have access to this mower anymore. I don't remember if I mentioned the belt part number in the video, or maybe I left a part number in the description... I was going to suggest to take a seamstress tape measure so it's very flexible and measure around the path of the belt would give a good idea of the length it's supposed to be... but sounds like the problem is the belt is the wrong length..
I successfully changed the belt. All routing and guides correct. However, the belt is very loose when the PTO lever is "off" and the belt keeps falling off the drive pulley. Is there a way to adjust the tension?
Are u sure u have the right belt? Are the guides correct.. I know u said they were, but it’s worth double checking if you’re sure u have the right belt
@@JLPicard440 Thanks for replying. According to the parts manual, it's the correct belt. I have since read that only OEM belts will work because the after market belts are slightly larger. I didn't buy OEM. I am confident that it is routed correctly and it's on the right side of the guides. When the PTO is engaged, all's well. When I disengage, it falls off. I've also read about a stretched PTO cable and the possibility of weak springs.
@@williamlongfellow6345 Yes that would account for the belt being looser. Take a look at the idler where the PTO is and see if there's any way to shrink it up a little bit..
Is there any chance you could get a vid or pic of the PTO cable routing.. I bought a Yard Man 46" that has been jerryrigged left and right. I replaced the pto cable and I am unable to find the correct routing..
I put the upper deck belt on the exact same way but it's loose. I have the right belt which is 1/2 by 91.4inc. My problem is the blades will not disengaged
Can we get a wider belt on that deck? I go through like 3 belts a year. Mostly my own fault as I let the grass grow way too high. I always keep that deck on the highest level. I'm just wondering if there is a more durable option. I've tried Kevlar and its not that much an improvement.
JOe Shmoe I don't know that a wider belt will ride on the pulleys properly... but if u have one... why not try it? Worst that could happen is you'll burn it up!
HI. I don't know off hand what size the belt is. If you have the mower model number, you should be able to go on www.partstree.com and plug in that model number and get the parts breakdown. Without the actual model number, it's going to be difficult to know which belt it is. Also, if you have the old belt, a lot of the time they print the part number right on the belt. Sometimes its hard to read, but it's usually there.
HI, I don't remember. If you look under the seat there should be a sticker there with the model number. You can take that model number and go to a site like www.partstree.com and plug in the model number to get the parts breakdown. With the parts breakdown you can get the part number of the belt. I hope that helps.
No definitely not.... the mower is gone so I can't say what the number is,.. but I remember it was different... if u have your model number try going to parts tree is a good place to look it up
I know that 1 of the deck belts is oem # 954-0349 which replaces 754-0349, but idk which that is for. Im just now finding out that i guess i have to go get yet ANOTHER belt and no clue on how to find out that number cuz i have not seen ANYTHING about another belt on the diagrams..... Hopefully that helps u a lil bit lol
What length upper deck belt are you putting on there? because we’re trying to replace our 79.5in on the same make and model and everything but it’s not long enough, even though we’re doing everything right
I don't remember that. I would take your mower model number and go to partstree.com and get the part number. You can then take that part number and see what length the belt is
BTW, the upper belt is the "DRIVE BELT" NOT a "Deck Belt" as noted in the name of the vid. Drive belts drive the mower, Deck belts drive the Blades... carry on... #USA
I stand corrected sir. Was wondering, I replaced my Deck belt, had the right Model #, but there is quite a bit of slack in the belt. How can I remedy this...?
Sometimes the belt will have a lot of slack until it's engaged .... If you have a lot of slack when it's engaged, then it's either the wrong belt or the belt path that you followed could be wrong ...
I don't have that model. You might try to go to parts tree and put your model number in there. IT might show what you're looking for in the parts breakdown. Thanks...
That one looks newer than mine and the deck is different i already knew how to thread the belt on i was just watching anyway mines 13ax935t001 its green and white
Which belt is the blade belt? I go through a couple of belts on the Yard Man every summer. I let the grass grow until the city gives me a warning, mainly because the state is supposed to cut their half of the steep ditch, the 30 (45?😯)-degree slope by the highway, and they are not always doing it, so I ride the Yardman, standing on the upper edge, ready to jump if it topples. I noticed there was a 1/2" twig that managed to dislodge the blade belt before getting sliced up (the belt is still whole). Thanks for the video!
I seem to remember this mower had 2 blade belts. It's been a while so don't quote me! I think there was an engine to deck belt and then a blade belt on the deck itself..
@@JLPicard440 The blade belt is the lower belt (closest to the ground) so you don't have to remove the drive belt to get at or install a new blade belt. In my case, the belt came off, and was whole. The blades stopped and I saw the belt laying in the grass. Earl (the Pearl) our local 86-year-old fix-it guy (he repairs mowers and tractors) said the drive belt was 2" too long and he could not understand how it had worked before. I had mowed the large yard a few times with it. But it was way too loose now, it was obvious it would not work. Curious. Got a belt that was 2" shorter and that worked fine when I mowed yesterday. Still a mystery about the too long belt. Maybe he had wrapped it around an extra pin or something...
Oh wow! Yea you'd think the long belt would just squeal and slip... Glad you got it going... 😀
I love the Men In Black reference!
Lol.... Thank u.. 😀
Took me a minute, but I got it too as soon as you talked like 'Edgar.'
@@JLPicard440 I came here to see if you mentioned the belt sizes. I'm not using the part number listed on the hood, because it's not the factory hood! I'm going to my local Tractor Supply store to get all four belts, where they are listed by width and length.
You might be able to find the model number under the seat. From there you can go to www.partstree.com and get the parts breakdown to get the part number. With the part number you can get the correct length and width... 😀@@SPCLPONY
Lol!..
I have the same arrangement on my Huskee 4600 mower deck. My question is, Why is the first pulley after the PTO/flywheel flat instead of a v-belt pulley since the V side of the belt runs around it?
HI, without seeing it I can't be sure. It has been years since I had access to this mower deck. Usually when a pulley is flat it's because the back side of the belt is intended to ride on it and the pulley is grooved because that's where the "V" part of the belt rides. I've never seen one ever, that the "V" side of the belt rides on a flat side of the pulley. If that makes sense.
The belt pattern was the key, thanks.
Yep... You're welcome..:-)
How about a video on how to change the BOTTOM belt on this deck? I mainly need to know how to remove and replace the tension spring on the lower belt. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
HI, I wish I had access to this mower. I'd love to do another video on it, but I don't have access to it anymore..
@Daxton Jad Oh
@@JLPicard440 did you ever fix I got one used and bottom belt is missing and the belt it says use ends up short
Yes this one is fixed. Did you look up the model number and get the parts breakdown? Did they change the deck to a larger deck (before you bought it?)
I have the exact same more where does the engagement cable spring hook up to the deck
I can't remember if the video doesn't show.
Just got this supposedly 2004 Yard machine 46 inch deck. I have the same configuration for the belt as the one you show. Under the hood it shows the engine to deck belt is part #754 O4122. I ordered that belt on ebay and got from a company called Wildcats a belt stamped with this number but it is way too long. I was thinking someone has replaced the deck with a different year deck. But seeing the belt configuration that is stamped on the deck I don;t see how this much longer belt could work on any deck that size. . I also have a 2005 yard machine that originally had a 46 inch deck that has the same belt part number stamped under the hood. But I bought that mower without a deck and put a 42" MTD deck on it from another yard machine. So I have no way of knowing what size belt to try on this machine. I am beginning to believe they stamped the correct part number on the wrong size belt. I may have to go to a local mower parts store and compare the belts. Meanwhile I will try finding out the length of this number belt on the net and if successful measure the one they sent me. Do you have a part number stamped on your machine for the engine to deck belt? If so maybe you could reply with that number so I can compare it to the number I have.
Yeah just found out that the engine to deck belt that I received from Wildcats on ebay for a 46 inch Yard Machine belt number 754-04122 had the correct number stamped on the belt but their belt was over 100 inches long. I looked up the length of the part number and it is suppose to be 90 1/4 inch long. No more Wildcats for me.
Oh wow... a 10 inch plus discrepancy? That's horrible. I don't have access to this mower anymore. I don't remember if I mentioned the belt part number in the video, or maybe I left a part number in the description... I was going to suggest to take a seamstress tape measure so it's very flexible and measure around the path of the belt would give a good idea of the length it's supposed to be... but sounds like the problem is the belt is the wrong length..
Should you check the pulleys before you install the belt
Yes absolutely.. This is a great time to check the pulleys.. And the deck spindles too
I successfully changed the belt. All routing and guides correct. However, the belt is very loose when the PTO lever is "off" and the belt keeps falling off the drive pulley. Is there a way to adjust the tension?
Are u sure u have the right belt? Are the guides correct.. I know u said they were, but it’s worth double checking if you’re sure u have the right belt
@@JLPicard440 Thanks for replying. According to the parts manual, it's the correct belt. I have since read that only OEM belts will work because the after market belts are slightly larger. I didn't buy OEM. I am confident that it is routed correctly and it's on the right side of the guides. When the PTO is engaged, all's well. When I disengage, it falls off. I've also read about a stretched PTO cable and the possibility of weak springs.
@@JLPicard440 I should also say that it appears to be almost the identical model and configuration as the one in your video on the topic.
@@williamlongfellow6345 Yes that would account for the belt being looser. Take a look at the idler where the PTO is and see if there's any way to shrink it up a little bit..
Is there any chance you could get a vid or pic of the PTO cable routing.. I bought a Yard Man 46" that has been jerryrigged left and right. I replaced the pto cable and I am unable to find the correct routing..
Arrrgh... I would definitely help if I could. I don't have that mower available to work on anymore.
I put the upper deck belt on the exact same way but it's loose. I have the right belt which is 1/2 by 91.4inc. My problem is the blades will not disengaged
What happens when you throw the belt engage control. Its supposed to tighten up the belt..
Will a broken belt stop lawn from starting
No definitely not..
Well did the lower belt go out next week cause that’s the video I need. Lol.
No it didn't. Sorry about that... ☹️
That’s okay! I’m sure my upper belt will go out too. It’s the only one of the three that hasn’t completely shredded on me yet.
I wish I had this tractor back, I'd do a revised video with both belts.. 🙂
I got the lower belt replaced. I’ll post a comment on how to replace it. Not sure if it would help many people (I’m a visual person) but it might!
@@THEMUDBUSTERS4 Excellent! Thank you.. 🙂
Can we get a wider belt on that deck? I go through like 3 belts a year. Mostly my own fault as I let the grass grow way too high. I always keep that deck on the highest level. I'm just wondering if there is a more durable option. I've tried Kevlar and its not that much an improvement.
JOe Shmoe I don't know that a wider belt will ride on the pulleys properly... but if u have one... why not try it? Worst that could happen is you'll burn it up!
I guess I will try a 5/8" next time around.
Maybe you have a wobbly pulley or bad spindle. either will eat belts.
What size is the top belt. I cannot find it anywhere online.
HI. I don't know off hand what size the belt is. If you have the mower model number, you should be able to go on www.partstree.com and plug in that model number and get the parts breakdown. Without the actual model number, it's going to be difficult to know which belt it is. Also, if you have the old belt, a lot of the time they print the part number right on the belt. Sometimes its hard to read, but it's usually there.
Is he Trying to be Edgar from Men in Black...? 😂😂
Lol...
What was the belt size for the top
HI, I don't remember. If you look under the seat there should be a sticker there with the model number. You can take that model number and go to a site like www.partstree.com and plug in the model number to get the parts breakdown. With the parts breakdown you can get the part number of the belt. I hope that helps.
The upper belts that you replaced, it the same part number as the lower belt? Thanks
No definitely not.... the mower is gone so I can't say what the number is,.. but I remember it was different... if u have your model number try going to parts tree is a good place to look it up
Call the supplier for the part number. They will gladly give you the number or look at MTD for parts numbers
I know that 1 of the deck belts is oem # 954-0349 which replaces 754-0349, but idk which that is for. Im just now finding out that i guess i have to go get yet ANOTHER belt and no clue on how to find out that number cuz i have not seen ANYTHING about another belt on the diagrams..... Hopefully that helps u a lil bit lol
How about deck removal and reinstall???
Good idea! I don't have access to that mower anymore... ☹️
has ur lower deck belt went out yet cuz thats what i need help replacing. cant get my blades to stop spinning when disengaged. please help
I don't have access to this mower anymore, but If i get a similar one, I'll do a video..
K appreciate it
how many inches is the band that you are installing my tractor is exactly the same as yours and I can not find the right band
I don't know... you'd have to look up the model number of the mower to get the part number and then u can see
It should be a iem 954-0349 which replaces the old # of 754-0349
@@staceysears404 Thanks for the info!
I would like to find out how to replace the pulley tension spring
I don't have access to that mower anymore, but if I get another I'll do a video...
Whats the numbers for the belts? I need an engine to deck belt
I don’t know off hand..I usually take the model number and look at www.partstree.com or something like that to get that information
do u have a video of how to put deck back on that same mower
I Don't,.. That mower is gone.. If I get another one, I'll make a video of it..
David Mcguire it's very easy, 2 pins at the rear and one adjustment bolt at the front.
What length upper deck belt are you putting on there? because we’re trying to replace our 79.5in on the same make and model and everything but it’s not long enough, even though we’re doing everything right
I don't remember that. I would take your mower model number and go to partstree.com and get the part number. You can then take that part number and see what length the belt is
BTW, the upper belt is the "DRIVE BELT" NOT a "Deck Belt" as noted in the name of the vid.
Drive belts drive the mower, Deck belts drive the Blades... carry on... #USA
Doug Chiles actually the deck has two belts a upper and lower... I was talking about the upper "deck" belt... nothing to do with the drive belt
I stand corrected sir. Was wondering, I replaced my Deck belt, had the right Model #, but there is quite a bit of slack in the belt. How can I remedy this...?
Sometimes the belt will have a lot of slack until it's engaged .... If you have a lot of slack when it's engaged, then it's either the wrong belt or the belt path that you followed could be wrong ...
Doug Chiles the engine is a 21 horse power with a 46 cut show me what size belt sizes that fits the lawn mower
I wish i could see how that blade brake cable is installed i have mtd yRd machine 46 20.5 if anyone has a diagram of it i sure would appreciate it
I don't have that model. You might try to go to parts tree and put your model number in there. IT might show what you're looking for in the parts breakdown. Thanks...
I thank you very much ill check into that
you can download any model from any machine
🤣 "when the other belt blows week"
OIC
That one looks newer than mine and the deck is different i already knew how to thread the belt on i was just watching anyway mines 13ax935t001 its green and white
Nice! Thanks for the feedback... 😀
Thanks
drugs are bad.... M'Kay....
That very belt stretches in no time at all. Need a slightly tighter belt. PITA!
Cuantas pulgadas mide la banda que estas poniendo gracias
mit mtd?
That guy trying to make fun of disabled people
No absolutely not... it's a spoof on Edgar from the movie Men in Black... has nothing whatsoever to do with that...
lol
The acting at the start is annoying. Didn't finish...
It happens
Not you proudest fap then I guess?